Actor Graham McTavish from "Outlander" and Starz's "Men in Kilts" joins us on Story & Craft.
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Actor Graham McTavish from “Outlander” and Starz’s “Men in Kilts” joins us on Story & Craft.
Graham talks about “Outlander” and “Men in Kilts: A Roadtrip with Sam and Graham,” the show he created with co-star Sam Heughan. We also talk about “The Witcher,” “House of the Dragon,” “24,” “Preacher” and “The Hobbit” films, growing up in Scotland and studying in London, and his independent film “Somewhere in Montana.”
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
Graham McTavish joins Story & Craft
Scottish Ancestry and Family History
Unscripted and Improvisational
Shakespeare’s Folio and Acting Career
Contradictions in Beautiful New Zealand
Family Background and Acting Opportunities
Discovering Passion for Acting
Touring Across America
Being in the Hobbit
Upcoming Projects and Travel Challenges
Career Paths and Advice
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I was a massive fan of 24.
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Graham McTavish: A massive fan which I kept embarrassing
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Graham McTavish: myself with on set, constantly telling the
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Graham McTavish: producers how much of a fan I was at the
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Graham McTavish: show.
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Graham McTavish: It got to the point where they were going
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Graham McTavish: yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Graham McTavish: Okay, graham, we get it.
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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.
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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston Alright
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Announcer: we are back, you and I together.
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Marc Preston: Another episode of Story and Craft.
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Marc Preston: And, of course, if you're brand new to the
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Marc Preston: Graham McTavish and you're like fine, i'll
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Marc Preston: Thank you very much.
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Marc Preston: I appreciate you taking a moment with me.
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Marc Preston: It is very much appreciated.
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Marc Preston: Today, as I mentioned, graham McTavish,
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Marc Preston: scottish actor, very talented.
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Marc Preston: He is legitimately in everything And I do
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Marc Preston: mean that It's hard to keep track of
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Marc Preston: everything he's in right now, like he's
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Marc Preston: been in the Hobbit movies, he is right now
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Marc Preston: in the Game of Thrones prequel, house of
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Marc Preston: the Dragon on HBO Max or is it just?
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Marc Preston: it's just Max now.
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Marc Preston: Also, he stars in the Stars show, Outlander
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Marc Preston: and, of course, the Witcher.
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Marc Preston: On Netflix.
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Marc Preston: He has a show with his Outlander co-star,
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Marc Preston: sam Hewan, though It is called Men and
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Marc Preston: Kilt's Road Trip with Sam and Graham.
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Marc Preston: Very interesting show for me right now.
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Marc Preston: It's all things Scotland just discovered
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Marc Preston: through.
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Marc Preston: I did the Ancestry thing found out.
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Marc Preston: I'm one quarter Scottish, just learned that
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Marc Preston: the other day, of course.
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Marc Preston: Really cool show.
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Marc Preston: Really enjoyed it.
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Marc Preston: New episodes, new season that is coming out
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Marc Preston: on August 11th on Stars.
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Marc Preston: So that's Men and Kilt's.
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Marc Preston: We'll talk about that as well as a lot of
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Marc Preston: So I'll wrap this up.
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Marc Preston: This is a fun episode.
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Marc Preston: Really enjoyed the chat with Graham, very
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Marc Preston: talented actor.
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Marc Preston: He has done so much great work And, once
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Marc Preston: okay, so let's get after it.
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Marc Preston: Today is Graham McTavish Day, right here on
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Marc Preston: So how are you doing today, sir?
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Marc Preston: Good, yeah, very well, thanks, not bad at
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Marc Preston: all.
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Marc Preston: Where are you joining us from today?
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Marc Preston: I'm in London, i'm in London.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, now we are going to touch today on
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Marc Preston: the whole Scottish thing, without a doubt,
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Marc Preston: because I just did the not 23 of me was an
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Marc Preston: I had no idea and did a little research,
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Marc Preston: So I'm like, wait a minute, i'm speaking to
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Graham McTavish: Which clan is that?
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Marc Preston: I think in France it'd be Bouchon, but it's
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Marc Preston: pronounced Beacham.
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Marc Preston: So, my son and I were going through and
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Marc Preston: You can go down a rabbit hole with these
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Marc Preston: You know these genetic things here.
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Marc Preston: Did you ever do that, bonnie Chance?
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Graham McTavish: Not the ancestry thing I've done.
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Graham McTavish: What have I done?
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Graham McTavish: A lady offered to do my family tree, and so
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Graham McTavish: that's a sort of Scottish-Irish background
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Graham McTavish: in my family And she, my goodness, my God,
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Graham McTavish: i mean the family tree that she produced is
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Graham McTavish: like six yards long.
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Graham McTavish: Isn't that amazing?
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Graham McTavish: Oh, it doesn't take long.
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Graham McTavish: You don't have to go back that far to
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Graham McTavish: suddenly have.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, i saw something online.
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Marc Preston: If you just go back eight generations,
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Marc Preston: that's something like was it eight or
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Marc Preston: I forgot there's like some ridiculously
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Marc Preston: large number of people who get into your
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Marc Preston: family tree, absolutely.
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Marc Preston: It was very serendipitous because I'm
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Marc Preston: seeing the show with you and Sam I was
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Marc Preston: watching a few days ago.
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Marc Preston: I forgot.
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Marc Preston: I forgot which episode I was watching.
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Marc Preston: I think it was about the Highland games and
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Marc Preston: they had to lift the heavy stone onto the.
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Marc Preston: You know the young guy, you can lift it,
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Marc Preston: but I can push it off.
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Graham McTavish: Well, i mean, yeah, that I mean all.
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Graham McTavish: all credit to Sam.
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Graham McTavish: That is enormously difficult to do.
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Graham McTavish: that It's one thing to lift two hundred
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Graham McTavish: pounds, like in a gym, but to lift a stone.
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Marc Preston: I got, i got a hernia just watching him do
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Marc Preston: So, yes, well, the men and kilt thing.
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Marc Preston: How did that come together?
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Marc Preston: How was that?
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Marc Preston: How was that show conceived of and then
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Marc Preston: brought to fruition?
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, Well, i always had an interest in
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Graham McTavish: Scottish history, so I had actually written
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Graham McTavish: a treatment for an idea called clan lands
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Graham McTavish: in 1992.
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Graham McTavish: Well, 1991, i think, actually, and the idea
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Graham McTavish: was to explore Scottish clans And that was
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Graham McTavish: what I was interested in.
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Graham McTavish: And I remember talking about this to Sam
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Graham McTavish: and Sam has an interest in Scottish history
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Graham McTavish: as well, of course And then he rang me.
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Graham McTavish: He rang me in New Zealand.
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Graham McTavish: I was in New Zealand, i was in the kitchen
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Graham McTavish: and he said hey mate, why don't we?
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Graham McTavish: we should do something about Scottish
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Graham McTavish: history together.
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Graham McTavish: It would be fun.
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Graham McTavish: Maybe we could do a podcast.
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Marc Preston: Now is he from there as well, Or was he
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Marc Preston: kind of hitching on, hitching his wagon to
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Marc Preston: you and then talking about the Scottish
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Marc Preston: thing?
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Graham McTavish: No, no, he was.
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Graham McTavish: He had his own interest in it for sure.
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Graham McTavish: But he remembered me talking about my
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Graham McTavish: interest and thought that it's and I agree
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Graham McTavish: with him that these things are often more
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Graham McTavish: enjoyable when you team up with somebody
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Graham McTavish: that necessarily do more yourself.
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Graham McTavish: So you know, he suggested a podcast and I
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Graham McTavish: didn't even know what a podcast was.
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Graham McTavish: So I sort of went sure, yeah, and then that
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Graham McTavish: quickly was sort of put to one side And
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Graham McTavish: then he suggested doing a recorded kind of
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Graham McTavish: series using gun go pros, which even I knew
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Graham McTavish: was preposterous.
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Graham McTavish: You know the idea of me sitting with a
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Graham McTavish: GoPro strapped to my forehead with him with
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Graham McTavish: stupid.
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Graham McTavish: So it didn't take as long to come up with
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Graham McTavish: the idea of doing it, actually filming it
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Graham McTavish: properly.
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Graham McTavish: So we got together a group of people that
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Graham McTavish: we'd worked with in Scotland on Outlander
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Graham McTavish: crew and we we just went out for five
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Graham McTavish: consecutive weekends and we went all over
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Graham McTavish: Scotland and we filled that's it.
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Marc Preston: That's just five weekends, that's it.
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Graham McTavish: Well, no, that was.
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Graham McTavish: That was what we did for the to try and
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Graham McTavish: persuade stars.
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Marc Preston: Oh, because you could do like a pilot
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Marc Preston: together.
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Marc Preston: I got you Kind of.
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, i mean we literally listen.
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Graham McTavish: We didn't, we didn't really know exactly
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Graham McTavish: what we were doing.
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Graham McTavish: There was no script We got, we took a hold
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Graham McTavish: of a load of people that we thought would
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Graham McTavish: be interesting to talk to, and then we
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Graham McTavish: drove and we met them And and so everything.
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Graham McTavish: You see, and that was the format for the
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Graham McTavish: series when we actually came to make it.
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Marc Preston: It's completely unscripted and it's the
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Marc Preston: same with the second season, but isn't that
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Marc Preston: more fun sometimes to do that, because you
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Marc Preston: are sort of hanging yourself out there to
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Marc Preston: be open to whatever happens?
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Marc Preston: Yeah, no, totally Well, it suits me
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Marc Preston: especially.
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Graham McTavish: I mean, i don't I mean, you know Sam enjoys
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Graham McTavish: it as well But I've always loved that kind
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Graham McTavish: of improvisational quality in real time
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Graham McTavish: conversations Because, yes, as you say, you
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Graham McTavish: don't know where it's going to lead, and
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Graham McTavish: the opportunity, as well, for humor is
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Graham McTavish: there, as long as the person you're talking
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Graham McTavish: to knows what they're talking about.
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Graham McTavish: You know, they kind of, they kind of you
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Graham McTavish: know, do the do the heavy lifting for you
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Graham McTavish: And you're able to just sit back and enjoy
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Graham McTavish: it, which is which is what I tried to do.
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Graham McTavish: And we we got together some really
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Graham McTavish: interesting guests for the, as you say,
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Graham McTavish: kind of pilot teaser thing that we
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Graham McTavish: presented to stars And stars.
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Graham McTavish: We were in the room and they agreed to make
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Graham McTavish: the show right there, which we were pretty
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Graham McTavish: shocked by, i've got to be honest.
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Marc Preston: Well, those kind of shows usually from a
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Graham McTavish: There was, there was more of a fun aspect
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Graham McTavish: Now, did you learn more about, or did you
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Marc Preston: Well, i certainly mean there was plenty of
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Graham McTavish: you know, the entire dispute between the
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Graham McTavish: we were in Castle Cordor, which is a
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Marc Preston: Really.
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Graham McTavish: Wow, i know, i was just gobsmacked,
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Graham McTavish: Shakespeare's folio was published in 1623.
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Graham McTavish: So now?
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Graham McTavish: And I said, oh, what book is this?
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Graham McTavish: And I, i, yeah, i was pretty speechless.
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Marc Preston: So how much of the scene did that take?
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Graham McTavish: I certainly did.
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Marc Preston: Was that kind of the genesis of your acting
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Graham McTavish: Well, i, i mean, i sort of fell into acting
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Graham McTavish: I would say I wanted to be a writer, so
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Graham McTavish: And I used to write comic sketches with my
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Graham McTavish: So I had no interest in performing.
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Graham McTavish: Then the drama teacher kept asking me to be
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Graham McTavish: And then he asked me on this one occasion
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Graham McTavish: And to this day I've said this many times,
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Marc Preston: No, i get no idea.
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Marc Preston: When you were younger, were you was being
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Graham McTavish: Just no interest.
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Graham McTavish: I used to do public speaking at school, but
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Graham McTavish: that was really as part of like a debating
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Graham McTavish: You know, i had no interest in performing
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Graham McTavish: and certainly, when I was growing up, even
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Graham McTavish: which is something that we lose as adults.
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Marc Preston: And so that sense of play, that is sort of
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Marc Preston: an actor, i think, just being OK, playing
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Marc Preston: That's how you have a career in acting.
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Marc Preston: It's funny.
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Marc Preston: And then going wow, kids have that
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Marc Preston: They're almost suffering from too many
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, well, they don't have that weird
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Marc Preston: You don't see kids being all method.
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Marc Preston: When they try to play cops and robbers, you
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Graham McTavish: No, not a lot of Daniel Day-Lewis going on
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Marc Preston: No as far as kids go, do you have any kids
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Marc Preston: at all?
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Graham McTavish: I do.
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, I have a 16 and an 11 year old, both
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Graham McTavish: girls.
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Graham McTavish: Yes.
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Marc Preston: Oh, very good, I've got a.
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Graham McTavish: They're actually in New Zealand, which is
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Graham McTavish: they've been there with their mother and
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Graham McTavish: I mean it's an interesting New Zealand's
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Graham McTavish: it is utterly beautiful and it is, you know,
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Graham McTavish: This is where the Hobbit was filmed.
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Graham McTavish: And I'm very grateful that my children have
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Graham McTavish: You feel the need to travel, and so yeah,
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Marc Preston: would be island fever, but is that sense
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Marc Preston: that you are kind of on this, contain space
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Marc Preston: and you kind of?
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Graham McTavish: want to.
526
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Graham McTavish: They call it in New Zealand.
527
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Graham McTavish: They call it the tyranny of distance.
528
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Graham McTavish: So it's you are just conscious that you are
529
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Graham McTavish: 1200 miles from the nearest landmass, which
530
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Graham McTavish: is a long walk.
531
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Graham McTavish: Really, is it that?
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Marc Preston: far from Australia, australia, 1200 miles.
533
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Marc Preston: Looking at a map you think it's kind of
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Marc Preston: close, but 1200 miles, there's a little bit
535
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Marc Preston: of a haul.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, it is.
537
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Marc Preston: Are they?
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Marc Preston: are they any of them kind of potentially
539
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Marc Preston: following in your footsteps?
540
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Marc Preston: Are they theatrical?
541
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Graham McTavish: Are they little little fespians or I mean
542
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Graham McTavish: you know they've done school plays and
543
,402 --> 00:20:14,785
Graham McTavish: things like that.
544
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Graham McTavish: I mean I've neither encouraged them or
545
,812 --> 00:20:17,875
Graham McTavish: discouraged them at all.
546
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Graham McTavish: I think I mean my youngest daughter, i you
547
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Graham McTavish: know she talks about being a lawyer, she
548
,886 --> 00:20:28,194
Graham McTavish: talks about being all sorts of things.
549
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Graham McTavish: She's a natural debater.
550
,952 --> 00:20:33,376
Graham McTavish: She could debate you about anything.
551
,005 --> 00:20:36,190
Graham McTavish: And my eldest is interested in the film
552
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Graham McTavish: industry, but she's interested in it from
553
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Graham McTavish: behind the camera.
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Graham McTavish: So, and I'm all for that, i'm all for that
555
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Graham McTavish: because acting is a very it's, it's a very,
556
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Graham McTavish: very, very difficult path and not to be
557
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Graham McTavish: taken.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, you definitely need to.
559
,952 --> 00:20:52,636
Marc Preston: what was that phrase?
560
,656 --> 00:20:54,083
Marc Preston: that if you can't imagine yourself doing
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,163 --> 00:20:56,190
Marc Preston: anything else, then yeah, go for it, but if
562
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Marc Preston: you can imagine yourself doing a multitude
563
,614 --> 00:20:59,645
Marc Preston: of other things, maybe it's not the thing.
564
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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's so funny.
566
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Marc Preston: You said that a debater thing My youngest
567
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Marc Preston: is she's the one that calls, calls me out
568
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Marc Preston: on my nonsense and she's usually right.
569
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Marc Preston: You know so, but hopefully she doesn't
570
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Marc Preston: really listen to this, so she won't know.
571
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Marc Preston: I'm actually giving her credit.
572
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Marc Preston: Now you were growing up in in Scotland,
573
Family Background and Acting Opportunities
,438 --> 00:21:28,160
Marc Preston: Were your parents?
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Marc Preston: were you coming from a family of Thespians,
575
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Marc Preston: or were they of a whole different track?
576
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Graham McTavish: No, no, not at all.
577
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Graham McTavish: There was no history at all about.
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Graham McTavish: Well, the only person that did any acting
579
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Graham McTavish: in my family was my sister, who did it at
580
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Graham McTavish: school, and so I remember going to see her
581
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Graham McTavish: in a school production of crime and
582
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Graham McTavish: punishment, which isn't, you know what you
583
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Graham McTavish: would imagine would be the obvious choice
584
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Graham McTavish: for a school play crime and punishment It's
585
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Graham McTavish: yeah, i mean thinking about it now it's
586
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Graham McTavish: like wow, but they were a very sort of
587
,796 --> 00:22:02,685
Graham McTavish: forward thinking school And I went to the
588
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Graham McTavish: same school, but that was the only time.
589
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Graham McTavish: And she, she was very good, actually she
590
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Graham McTavish: was very good, but life took her down a
591
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Graham McTavish: different road.
592
,650 --> 00:22:16,497
Graham McTavish: But my mother, my mother, was picked to be
593
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Graham McTavish: in a school play when she was young.
594
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Graham McTavish: But you know, my mother was born in 1922.
595
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Graham McTavish: And there was no.
596
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Graham McTavish: There was.
597
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Graham McTavish: I mean, she came from a working class
598
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Graham McTavish: family.
599
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Graham McTavish: I mean there was no possibility of anybody
600
,027 --> 00:22:31,939
Graham McTavish: of that generation and that background
601
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Graham McTavish: really at that time getting a career in
602
,262 --> 00:22:34,502
Graham McTavish: acting.
603
,522 --> 00:22:36,328
Graham McTavish: It was it'd be very, very, very, very hard,
604
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Graham McTavish: so it wouldn't have even crossed our mind.
605
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Graham McTavish: But what I will say is that they were
606
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Graham McTavish: incredibly encouraging and supportive.
607
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Marc Preston: Okay, that's good.
608
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Marc Preston: Yeah, they never, because I've spoken with
609
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Marc Preston: many people who, when someone decides, hey,
610
,238 --> 00:22:53,665
Marc Preston: i'm gonna do this, acting thing there,
611
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Marc Preston: usually as one parent or somebody's like
612
,676 --> 00:22:58,302
Marc Preston: you know, sometimes they're trying to
613
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Marc Preston: protect you by saying you know this is
614
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Marc Preston: difficult, what are you doing?
615
,598 --> 00:23:02,779
Marc Preston: But?
616
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Marc Preston: but, but you had the encouragement They
617
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Marc Preston: were, they were all in on your yeah, I mean
618
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Marc Preston: my mother.
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Graham McTavish: My mother was somebody that you know.
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Graham McTavish: I could have told her I wanted to do
621
,197 --> 00:23:15,424
Graham McTavish: anything and she would have supported me.
622
,608 --> 00:23:19,595
Graham McTavish: My father, his only concern was the money.
623
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Marc Preston: It was the money, and when he was your
624
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Marc Preston: father, the practical one in the family.
625
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Graham McTavish: Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, he was.
626
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Graham McTavish: He was a pilot in the Second World War.
627
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Graham McTavish: He was a civil aviation pilot, but he'd
628
,153 --> 00:23:35,626
Graham McTavish: grown up as a as an apprentice printer in
629
,646 --> 00:23:38,652
Graham McTavish: Glasgow, and so he came from a very strong
630
,732 --> 00:23:41,517
Graham McTavish: working class background And and, weirdly
631
,578 --> 00:23:44,470
Graham McTavish: enough, as I get older, i see many, many
632
,599 --> 00:23:47,233
Graham McTavish: more parallels with my father's life in
633
,362 --> 00:23:49,706
Graham McTavish: terms of how he was as a person.
634
,167 --> 00:23:53,434
Graham McTavish: He wasn't really satisfied with the world
635
,494 --> 00:23:55,578
Graham McTavish: that he grew up in and wanted something
636
,658 --> 00:23:58,551
Graham McTavish: more and wanted to travel, wanted to,
637
,671 --> 00:24:00,355
Graham McTavish: wanted to experience the world, and that's,
638
,636 --> 00:24:02,407
Graham McTavish: that's indeed what he did.
639
,631 --> 00:24:05,537
Graham McTavish: So, in that sense, not that he wanted to be
640
,557 --> 00:24:09,188
Graham McTavish: an actor, but he, he, he, he, every he.
641
,248 --> 00:24:11,593
Graham McTavish: My mother dragged him to every single play
642
,633 --> 00:24:14,167
Graham McTavish: that I ever did, every single one all over
643
,187 --> 00:24:15,132
Graham McTavish: the country Was.
644
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Marc Preston: you see, was he a commercial airline pilot
645
,503 --> 00:24:19,110
Marc Preston: after the war He did after the Second World
646
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Marc Preston: War.
647
,591 --> 00:24:20,615
Graham McTavish: Yeah, he was.
648
,655 --> 00:24:22,984
Graham McTavish: He was a bomber pilot in the war And then
649
,044 --> 00:24:25,771
Graham McTavish: he became a commercial airline pilot And so
650
,811 --> 00:24:26,914
Graham McTavish: he was a big aviation nerd.
651
,934 --> 00:24:29,368
Marc Preston: I always love hearing stories of you know
652
,408 --> 00:24:30,997
Marc Preston: going to the flight museums and seeing the
653
,037 --> 00:24:32,305
Marc Preston: old war birds and the.
654
,168 --> 00:24:35,335
Marc Preston: when I learned how to fly I'm not the air
655
,355 --> 00:24:37,663
Marc Preston: the, the, not Academy, a little flight
656
,683 --> 00:24:40,210
Marc Preston: school was right next door to a aviation
657
,250 --> 00:24:41,594
Marc Preston: museum where most of the planes actually
658
,634 --> 00:24:42,516
Marc Preston: still flew And they had a.
659
,846 --> 00:24:44,794
Marc Preston: I don't mean to over romanticize it, it was
660
,874 --> 00:24:47,164
Marc Preston: war after all, but but still, you know
661
,204 --> 00:24:49,450
Marc Preston: that's kind of your father I'm sure had
662
,490 --> 00:24:50,152
Marc Preston: many stories.
663
,573 --> 00:24:52,056
Marc Preston: Oh, yeah, yeah.
664
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Graham McTavish: I mean he, he grew up again, born in 1922,
665
,290 --> 00:24:58,954
Graham McTavish: where he grew up he was able to see
666
,175 --> 00:24:59,777
Graham McTavish: aircraft.
667
,977 --> 00:25:02,725
Graham McTavish: You know, in the in the early 1930s he was
668
,765 --> 00:25:05,931
Graham McTavish: able to see aircraft flying around where he,
669
,112 --> 00:25:08,977
Graham McTavish: where he lived, and he dreamt of being a
670
,017 --> 00:25:11,648
Graham McTavish: pilot and could never have possibly
671
,709 --> 00:25:13,212
Graham McTavish: imagined that he could become one.
672
,874 --> 00:25:15,687
Graham McTavish: And it was only the war, like a lot of
673
,727 --> 00:25:17,934
Graham McTavish: people, that allowed him to realize that
674
,195 --> 00:25:19,118
Graham McTavish: dream really.
675
,281 --> 00:25:22,308
Graham McTavish: But he never spoke about the war, never
676
,051 --> 00:25:23,493
Graham McTavish: never once.
677
,694 --> 00:25:25,340
Marc Preston: Yeah, because he was a young man, when he
678
,360 --> 00:25:26,665
Marc Preston: was still a man in his early 20s.
679
,267 --> 00:25:29,152
Marc Preston: When I and looking at my kids, i'm sure you
680
,192 --> 00:25:31,198
Marc Preston: kind of do the same thing with the younger
681
,258 --> 00:25:33,550
Marc Preston: folk It's like God.
682
,591 --> 00:25:35,516
Marc Preston: I cannot imagine being 21, 22.
683
,098 --> 00:25:37,703
Graham McTavish: Yeah, he enlisted in when he was.
684
,723 --> 00:25:41,612
Graham McTavish: He was 19, when he enlisted, and I cannot
685
,772 --> 00:25:43,056
Graham McTavish: even imagine it.
686
,898 --> 00:25:46,204
Marc Preston: No, There was a certain discipline in that
687
,224 --> 00:25:46,465
Marc Preston: generation.
688
,166 --> 00:25:51,694
Graham McTavish: Well, you, you see, you see, I see pictures
689
,754 --> 00:25:53,417
Graham McTavish: of him when he was 19.
690
,998 --> 00:25:56,647
Graham McTavish: And he just looks like a man, like a man.
691
,067 --> 00:26:01,036
Graham McTavish: Not, he's not a teenager, He's a man, And I
692
,056 --> 00:26:02,459
Graham McTavish: mean he left school when he was 14.
693
,105 --> 00:26:05,711
Graham McTavish: So he'd had a lot of life experience by the
694
,752 --> 00:26:06,594
Graham McTavish: time he was 19.
695
,674 --> 00:26:08,418
Graham McTavish: But I mean, people were different then,
696
,625 --> 00:26:09,147
Graham McTavish: they just were.
697
,750 --> 00:26:11,231
Marc Preston: I think so.
698
,371 --> 00:26:13,636
Marc Preston: You know the times pretty much called upon
699
,656 --> 00:26:14,238
Marc Preston: them to be.
700
,545 --> 00:26:16,652
Marc Preston: You know to, to, to meet the moment.
701
,753 --> 00:26:18,499
Marc Preston: You know Well, and his father.
702
,600 --> 00:26:20,527
Graham McTavish: His father had fought in the First World
703
,567 --> 00:26:20,828
Graham McTavish: War.
704
,755 --> 00:26:24,400
Graham McTavish: Family members had died in the First World
705
,420 --> 00:26:26,326
Graham McTavish: War, both with my mother's family and my
706
,367 --> 00:26:27,029
Graham McTavish: father's family.
707
,089 --> 00:26:28,735
Graham McTavish: So then this was life.
708
,815 --> 00:26:30,220
Graham McTavish: This was what life was like.
709
,902 --> 00:26:32,908
Graham McTavish: You know, it was a very real part of your
710
,948 --> 00:26:37,818
Graham McTavish: existence that, on the whole, we have been
711
,858 --> 00:26:40,463
Graham McTavish: spared, comparatively.
712
,483 --> 00:26:42,929
Graham McTavish: I mean people like yourself, me, you know,
713
,350 --> 00:26:43,751
Graham McTavish: i don't do.
714
,292 --> 00:26:45,515
Graham McTavish: I don't know if you've ever served in the
715
,535 --> 00:26:49,055
Graham McTavish: military, but it's not something that that
716
,416 --> 00:26:51,584
Graham McTavish: was ever required in my life, fortunately.
717
,387 --> 00:26:54,673
Marc Preston: No, no, never, never did admire the people
718
,255 --> 00:26:56,919
Marc Preston: who do greatly.
719
,602 --> 00:26:58,987
Marc Preston: Now, where'd you go to university to study
720
,087 --> 00:26:59,368
Marc Preston: acting?
721
,621 --> 00:26:59,701
Marc Preston: I?
722
,841 --> 00:27:02,266
Graham McTavish: went to London University, queen Mary
723
,307 --> 00:27:05,313
Graham McTavish: College, and I was very lucky.
724
,001 --> 00:27:10,290
Graham McTavish: You know, i can look at certain points in
725
,330 --> 00:27:13,218
Graham McTavish: my life where I've been lucky in the
726
,278 --> 00:27:15,103
Graham McTavish: circumstances I've found myself in, and
727
,684 --> 00:27:17,749
Graham McTavish: it's just so happened that where I went to
728
,809 --> 00:27:22,144
Graham McTavish: college at London University, the professor
729
,184 --> 00:27:23,692
Graham McTavish: of English I read English literature.
730
,235 --> 00:27:26,845
Graham McTavish: The professor of English was very, very,
731
,965 --> 00:27:30,716
Graham McTavish: very passionate about making sure that
732
,776 --> 00:27:32,260
Graham McTavish: everybody involved themselves in putting on
733
,360 --> 00:27:32,641
Graham McTavish: plays.
734
,402 --> 00:27:35,366
Graham McTavish: So whether you didn't have to act in them,
735
,087 --> 00:27:39,233
Graham McTavish: but acting them, work backstage, make
736
,253 --> 00:27:41,226
Graham McTavish: costumes, but especially Shakespeare,
737
,467 --> 00:27:43,234
Graham McTavish: especially Jackie B and Elizabethan drama,
738
,897 --> 00:27:45,382
Graham McTavish: you had to put them on stage because that's
739
,402 --> 00:27:48,009
Graham McTavish: what they were written for, and so I was
740
,049 --> 00:27:51,225
Graham McTavish: lucky enough to be able to play many roles
741
,887 --> 00:27:53,493
Graham McTavish: that I actually wouldn't have been able to
742
,533 --> 00:27:54,657
Graham McTavish: play if I'd come to drama school,
743
,921 --> 00:27:57,567
Graham McTavish: ironically enough, and so I got a lot of
744
,908 --> 00:27:59,753
Graham McTavish: experience at university.
745
,920 --> 00:28:00,362
Marc Preston: Oh, that's good.
746
,382 --> 00:28:01,947
Marc Preston: That's a very interesting point where this
747
,987 --> 00:28:04,164
Marc Preston: was actually your chosen thing initially,
748
,224 --> 00:28:06,814
Marc Preston: that that would be you'd be competing
749
,854 --> 00:28:08,340
Marc Preston: against others to maybe you get certain
750
,480 --> 00:28:08,681
Marc Preston: things.
751
,721 --> 00:28:09,323
Marc Preston: But here you can.
752
,185 --> 00:28:11,529
Marc Preston: you're kind of put it like you mentioned
753
,569 --> 00:28:13,783
Marc Preston: you wanted to be a writer, so you're kind
754
,803 --> 00:28:15,916
Marc Preston: of in the ecosystem, seeing all angles of
755
,956 --> 00:28:16,580
Marc Preston: the creative process.
756
,640 --> 00:28:18,684
Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i mean I'd wanted.
757
Discovering Passion for Acting
,185 --> 00:28:23,292
Graham McTavish: I developed an interest in acting after as
758
,372 --> 00:28:25,863
Graham McTavish: I was leaving school And when I left school
759
,923 --> 00:28:28,509
Graham McTavish: I took a year off And during that year the
760
,549 --> 00:28:31,667
Graham McTavish: local amateur dramatics company they came
761
,687 --> 00:28:33,775
Graham McTavish: around and leaf littered all the houses in
762
,795 --> 00:28:35,421
Graham McTavish: the area in the days when people used to
763
,461 --> 00:28:39,193
Graham McTavish: kind of like hand print leaflets And they
764
,233 --> 00:28:40,999
Graham McTavish: start one through my letterbox or our
765
,019 --> 00:28:42,811
Graham McTavish: letterbox And it was asking for young
766
,968 --> 00:28:45,477
Graham McTavish: actors to join the local church hall
767
,635 --> 00:28:45,955
Graham McTavish: company.
768
,113 --> 00:28:50,990
Graham McTavish: And I showed it to my mother And I said Do
769
,031 --> 00:28:51,392
Graham McTavish: you do?
770
,412 --> 00:28:52,315
Graham McTavish: you think she'd do this.
771
,217 --> 00:28:54,100
Graham McTavish: And I always, i've never forgotten her
772
,882 --> 00:28:55,183
Graham McTavish: answer.
773
,905 --> 00:28:57,731
Graham McTavish: She just looked to me and she said, Yeah, i
774
,771 --> 00:29:00,459
Graham McTavish: think you should, and, and that was that.
775
,520 --> 00:29:04,089
Graham McTavish: And I thought, okay, okay, and like lots of
776
,129 --> 00:29:07,158
Graham McTavish: decisions in your life, it's, they seem
777
,178 --> 00:29:09,927
Graham McTavish: have no consequence at the time, they
778
,947 --> 00:29:10,810
Graham McTavish: really do.
779
,910 --> 00:29:11,452
Marc Preston: Isn't that funny.
780
,512 --> 00:29:13,399
Marc Preston: It's usually not something that it's a big
781
,439 --> 00:29:13,660
Marc Preston: decision.
782
,623 --> 00:29:16,349
Marc Preston: Yeah, You know, and also the ones that you
783
,389 --> 00:29:16,810
Marc Preston: were.
784
,830 --> 00:29:19,439
Marc Preston: You genuinely follow your intuition.
785
,459 --> 00:29:22,432
Marc Preston: Like a Sanford Meisner said act before you
786
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Marc Preston: think.
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Marc Preston: Your instincts are more honest than your
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Marc Preston: thoughts, And those rare moments we like
789
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Marc Preston: this feels right And then you're so proud
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Marc Preston: of yourself.
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Marc Preston: It works out.
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Marc Preston: You know not, not not always, but no, no,
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Marc Preston: indeed not, no.
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Graham McTavish: But I mean, that's what primed me for me,
795
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Graham McTavish: for being so interested in it.
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Graham McTavish: I did a year of amateur theater, basically
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Graham McTavish: before I went to university, and then I
798
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Graham McTavish: just did theater all the time, all the time
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Graham McTavish: when I was there.
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Graham McTavish: So when?
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Marc Preston: you left university.
802
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Marc Preston: What happened from that point forward?
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Announcer: Were you, were you a quote unquote working
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Announcer: actor Or were you trying to find yourself.
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Graham McTavish: Well, it was funny.
806
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Graham McTavish: When I left, the idea was that I was going
807
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Graham McTavish: to go to drama school for a year after it
808
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Graham McTavish: was postgraduate.
809
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Graham McTavish: That was the plan, and so I auditioned for
810
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Graham McTavish: a number of drama schools Bristol, old Vic
811
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Graham McTavish: and Rada and Central and all the usual ones
812
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Graham McTavish: And I got into five schools.
813
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Graham McTavish: And then I was suddenly confronted with
814
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Graham McTavish: this terrible truth that I was going to
815
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Graham McTavish: have to pay Because I, in those days, you
816
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Graham McTavish: had free university education in the United
817
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Graham McTavish: Kingdom And so I just had three years of
818
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Graham McTavish: free education, and the idea of paying was
819
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Graham McTavish: just completely anathema to me.
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Marc Preston: So I just was considered sort of a master's
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Marc Preston: program, if you will.
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Graham McTavish: I mean I'd used up my three years, so there
823
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Graham McTavish: was no way I was going to pay.
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Graham McTavish: So I just said, no, no, no, i won't do that,
825
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Graham McTavish: i'll just.
826
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Graham McTavish: I'll just do a one man show.
827
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Graham McTavish: So I did Samuel Beckett's Craps, last Tape,
828
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Graham McTavish: and my girlfriend and I took it around to
829
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Graham McTavish: pubs all over London to get my equity card.
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Graham McTavish: And that's what I did.
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Marc Preston: I got my equity card And then you can get
832
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Marc Preston: your equity card by doing performances of
833
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Marc Preston: pubs Really.
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because because it
835
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Graham McTavish: was a one man show, it was a loophole in
836
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Graham McTavish: equity that it counted as a variety act And
837
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Graham McTavish: as a variety act you could pretty much
838
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Graham McTavish: perform it anywhere.
839
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Graham McTavish: And so I did it And I just had to get a, i
840
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Graham McTavish: just had to be paid And I had to prove that
841
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Graham McTavish: I'd been paid.
842
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Graham McTavish: And then I was a professional actor And,
843
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Graham McTavish: like a lot of things, certainly in my case,
844
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Graham McTavish: it has been a great advantage to not know
845
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Graham McTavish: what I'm doing, just to be completely
846
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Graham McTavish: ignorant.
847
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Graham McTavish: And and just isn't it funny when you reach
848
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Graham McTavish: this age and you look back going.
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Marc Preston: If I had cognition of how many things could
850
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Marc Preston: go wrong or different snicker, I never
851
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Marc Preston: would have done it.
852
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Marc Preston: I would never have.
853
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Graham McTavish: I'd never have moved to America, i would
854
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Graham McTavish: never have gone into acting.
855
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Graham McTavish: I would never, i mean.
856
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Graham McTavish: So I was just contacting theaters.
857
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Graham McTavish: I was just ringing them up in the days
858
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Graham McTavish: where they weren't casting directors then
859
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Graham McTavish: in theater.
860
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Graham McTavish: So you just ring up and you talk to the
861
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Graham McTavish: director And you just say, oh hello, i'm
862
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Graham McTavish: Graham, i'm, i'm, i want, i'm an actor.
863
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Graham McTavish: Are you casting anything at the moment that
864
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Graham McTavish: I could be right for?
865
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Graham McTavish: And they say, oh, yeah, well, send in your
866
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Graham McTavish: stuff, what do you think you could be good
867
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Graham McTavish: for?
868
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Graham McTavish: And you send them in, and some of them
869
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Graham McTavish: would ring you up and go, yes, we'd like
870
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Graham McTavish: you to come in, and some of them you'd
871
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Graham McTavish: never hear from again.
872
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Graham McTavish: But I had no, i had no inhibitions at all.
873
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Graham McTavish: I was just like, yeah, like ridiculously
874
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Graham McTavish: confident, with no basis for that
875
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Graham McTavish: confidence.
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Marc Preston: So well, that's being your 20s, isn't it?
877
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Marc Preston: You know the name of the game.
878
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Marc Preston: I saw a quote the other day.
879
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Marc Preston: It said if you are at this age and you're
880
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Marc Preston: looking back on your younger self and you
881
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Marc Preston: don't go, god, i was such a knucklehead.
882
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Marc Preston: You're still a knucklehead.
883
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Marc Preston: You know it because.
884
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Marc Preston: But that's part of the process.
885
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Marc Preston: You got to go through it to learn, to
886
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Marc Preston: discover yourself.
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Graham McTavish: I think Yes yes, yes, and you know we, we
888
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Graham McTavish: ended I ended up, you know, doing doing
889
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Graham McTavish: some acting roles And but I wanted more
890
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Graham McTavish: exposure.
891
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Graham McTavish: So myself and a friend, we'd done Edward
892
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Graham McTavish: Albee's The Zoo Story together, the
893
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Graham McTavish: Edinburgh Festival, and we were looking for
894
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Graham McTavish: another two man show.
895
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Graham McTavish: So we wrote a play about Vincent van Gogh
896
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Graham McTavish: based on the letters between the two of
897
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Graham McTavish: them, and we persuaded the National Gallery
898
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Graham McTavish: in London to put it on.
899
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Graham McTavish: And then that led to a very long story we
900
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Graham McTavish: haven't got time for, but that led to a
901
,987 --> 00:33:30,597
Graham McTavish: tour of America, three tours of America and
902
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Graham McTavish: abroad, and blah, blah, blah, blah and all
903
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Graham McTavish: the rest of it.
904
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Graham McTavish: But again, you know, if I started that
905
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Graham McTavish: process with the goal of touring America, i
906
,266 --> 00:33:43,470
Graham McTavish: would have been paralyzed, but all I wanted
907
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Graham McTavish: to do was get people to be able to see me
908
,100 --> 00:33:46,301
Graham McTavish: act.
909
,303 --> 00:33:49,147
Graham McTavish: So we, you know, rather than rely on
910
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Graham McTavish: somebody else to give me the job, i wrote
911
,291 --> 00:33:54,685
Graham McTavish: the job for myself And please come and see
912
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Graham McTavish: me.
913
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Graham McTavish: So it's a kind of arrogance mixed with
914
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Graham McTavish: naivety.
915
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Marc Preston: Your name, you know you talked about that
916
,006 --> 00:34:00,691
Marc Preston: thing when you're younger.
917
,711 --> 00:34:02,542
Marc Preston: If you don't know what you're stepping into
918
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Marc Preston: that's.
919
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Marc Preston: That's a good thing, because you can more
920
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Marc Preston: add, i think more effectively follow your
921
,820 --> 00:34:08,984
Marc Preston: goals, dreams, aspirations without any
922
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Marc Preston: hindrances of common sense.
923
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Marc Preston: Yes yes, not having common sense for sure.
924
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Marc Preston: Now, where did you land when you got to
925
Touring Across America
,891 --> 00:34:17,273
Marc Preston: America?
926
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Marc Preston: Where was it?
927
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Marc Preston: Where did you post up first, to kind of
928
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Marc Preston: start?
929
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Graham McTavish: Birmingham, alabama.
930
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Marc Preston: Birmingham, Alabama.
931
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah.
932
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Graham McTavish: Well, we organized a tour, so we had done,
933
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Graham McTavish: we had managed to get all of these art
934
,714 --> 00:34:34,242
Graham McTavish: institutions in America because we done it
935
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Graham McTavish: at the National Gallery in London to book
936
,732 --> 00:34:36,812
Graham McTavish: us.
937
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Graham McTavish: So we did the Metropolitan Museum of Art in
938
,880 --> 00:34:40,306
Graham McTavish: New York, we did the Art Institute of
939
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Graham McTavish: Chicago, LA County Museum, chicago.
940
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Graham McTavish: You know, we're Cleveland, we did it
941
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Graham McTavish: everywhere.
942
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Graham McTavish: But the first place was Birmingham, alabama,
943
,614 --> 00:34:50,199
Graham McTavish: and it was fantastic.
944
,219 --> 00:34:52,443
Graham McTavish: I mean that was 1987.
945
,484 --> 00:34:55,427
Graham McTavish: And it was.
946
,468 --> 00:34:57,990
Graham McTavish: I mean we would, i was 26.
947
,813 --> 00:35:02,216
Graham McTavish: We just we arrived, we'd made all the props,
948
,420 --> 00:35:04,766
Graham McTavish: my friend had painted reproductions of Van
949
,787 --> 00:35:06,290
Graham McTavish: Gogh's work because he was, he was a great
950
,431 --> 00:35:08,944
Graham McTavish: artist, my friend is a great artist.
951
,686 --> 00:35:14,176
Graham McTavish: And we just we started there And we were
952
,196 --> 00:35:15,218
Graham McTavish: going to New York next.
953
,840 --> 00:35:18,334
Graham McTavish: And I remember When we told the people in
954
,635 --> 00:35:20,140
Graham McTavish: Alabama that we were going to New York,
955
,910 --> 00:35:22,318
Graham McTavish: they, they, what they said oh, you want to
956
,338 --> 00:35:25,233
Graham McTavish: be careful, you want to be careful, yankees
957
,313 --> 00:35:25,614
Graham McTavish: up there.
958
,230 --> 00:35:27,855
Marc Preston: Birmingham has a little more of an artsy
959
,895 --> 00:35:30,051
Marc Preston: scene, more of a restaurant, you know like
960
,451 --> 00:35:30,552
Marc Preston: it.
961
,592 --> 00:35:33,037
Marc Preston: You know artsy people, from a way I
962
,077 --> 00:35:35,321
Marc Preston: understand, gravitate to that, to that town.
963
,762 --> 00:35:37,112
Graham McTavish: Yeah, It was a.
964
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Graham McTavish: it was a fun experience.
965
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Marc Preston: Now.
966
,792 --> 00:35:42,379
Marc Preston: So you ended up in New York, i'm assuming.
967
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Marc Preston: Based on the work you were doing, did you
968
,031 --> 00:35:45,716
Marc Preston: also head to LA and live there?
969
,737 --> 00:35:49,617
Marc Preston: for a live in LA, no no, no, we didn't.
970
,737 --> 00:35:51,802
Graham McTavish: We didn't really live in America.
971
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Graham McTavish: We toured America, so that was, that was
972
,498 --> 00:35:56,960
Graham McTavish: what we did.
973
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Graham McTavish: So we would go out there, in because
974
,656 --> 00:36:01,581
Graham McTavish: Britain was so miserable in January,
975
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Graham McTavish: february, march.
976
,950 --> 00:36:05,397
Graham McTavish: We would just construct tours to take us
977
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Graham McTavish: out of the country every January, february,
978
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Graham McTavish: march.
979
,970 --> 00:36:09,295
Graham McTavish: So we went to America.
980
,797 --> 00:36:10,619
Graham McTavish: We went there three times.
981
,650 --> 00:36:12,116
Graham McTavish: We went to Australia in January, february,
982
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Graham McTavish: march.
983
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Graham McTavish: So we were always somewhere warm.
984
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Graham McTavish: That was, that was the goal It was.
985
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Marc Preston: That's the one thing that would keep me
986
,917 --> 00:36:19,378
Marc Preston: from wanting it.
987
,538 --> 00:36:21,632
Marc Preston: Just, it always seems gray and cold and
988
,672 --> 00:36:23,277
Marc Preston: rainy, but it's such beautiful, both
989
,457 --> 00:36:25,252
Marc Preston: Scotland and Ireland, And it just.
990
,075 --> 00:36:27,621
Marc Preston: You look at that part of the world, it's
991
,641 --> 00:36:29,990
Marc Preston: just green and rolling hills.
992
,150 --> 00:36:31,837
Marc Preston: And it's just absolutely stunningly
993
,897 --> 00:36:32,278
Marc Preston: beautiful.
994
,810 --> 00:36:34,374
Marc Preston: And, of course, you know, seeing y'all
995
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Marc Preston: doing your road trip in that van, which is,
996
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Marc Preston: you know, you and Sam, of course kind of
997
,756 --> 00:36:38,916
Marc Preston: open.
998
,170 --> 00:36:40,336
Marc Preston: I want to watch some of the rest of it
999
,390 --> 00:36:41,032
Marc Preston: Because I want to.
Speaker:1000
,353 --> 00:36:43,017
Marc Preston: I want to dial in a little bit more of my
Speaker:1001
,097 --> 00:36:45,754
Marc Preston: Scottish lineage, understand a little bit
Speaker:1002
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Marc Preston: more.
Speaker:1003
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Graham McTavish: You'll understand.
Speaker:1004
,331 --> 00:36:47,572
Marc Preston: Yes.
Speaker:1005
,974 --> 00:36:50,535
Graham McTavish: Yes, the the feuding nature of the Scots.
Speaker:1006
,277 --> 00:36:53,702
Graham McTavish: You know, the days never complete unless
Speaker:1007
,743 --> 00:36:55,756
Graham McTavish: they're they're feuding with somebody else.
Speaker:1008
,430 --> 00:36:59,397
Graham McTavish: It's, it's a reMarcable talent that they
Speaker:1009
,457 --> 00:37:01,482
Graham McTavish: have, which they exported to America, of
Speaker:1010
,542 --> 00:37:05,540
Graham McTavish: course, with Hatfields and McCoys, and you
Speaker:1011
,560 --> 00:37:07,648
Graham McTavish: know they, they, yeah, they're Scottish.
Speaker:1012
,129 --> 00:37:09,532
Graham McTavish: You know they just went there and
Speaker:1013
,016 --> 00:37:12,839
Graham McTavish: replicated what they'd been doing in
Speaker:1014
,899 --> 00:37:14,302
Graham McTavish: Scotland for hundreds of years.
Speaker:1015
,510 --> 00:37:17,977
Marc Preston: They're a very tenacious, tenacious clan,
Speaker:1016
,538 --> 00:37:19,661
Marc Preston: or clans rather.
Speaker:1017
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Marc Preston: Yes, but one of the things I'm curious
Speaker:1018
,576 --> 00:37:23,845
Marc Preston: about I totally forgot you did this but
Speaker:1019
,608 --> 00:37:27,017
Marc Preston: back in the early 2000s love watching 24.
Speaker:1020
,451 --> 00:37:29,662
Marc Preston: And you had your kind of your swing on 24,
Speaker:1021
,682 --> 00:37:31,190
Marc Preston: you're a bad Russian dude, yeah.
Speaker:1022
,453 --> 00:37:32,790
Marc Preston: So what was that experience like?
Speaker:1023
,911 --> 00:37:34,620
Marc Preston: Any you know, you're the third or fourth
Speaker:1024
,022 --> 00:37:36,630
Marc Preston: gentleman I've spoken with who was on 24.
Speaker:1025
,752 --> 00:37:36,955
Announcer: What was?
Speaker:1026
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Marc Preston: that experience like.
Speaker:1027
,212 --> 00:37:40,162
Marc Preston: That seemed like a fast paced kind of
Speaker:1028
,223 --> 00:37:40,786
Marc Preston: experience.
Speaker:1029
,128 --> 00:37:43,878
Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i mean, i love I was a massive
Speaker:1030
,938 --> 00:37:46,667
Graham McTavish: fan of 24, a massive fan which I kept
Speaker:1031
,707 --> 00:37:49,315
Graham McTavish: embarrassing myself with on set constantly
Speaker:1032
,355 --> 00:37:51,260
Graham McTavish: telling the users how much of a fan I was
Speaker:1033
,320 --> 00:37:51,701
Graham McTavish: at the show.
Speaker:1034
,191 --> 00:37:53,160
Graham McTavish: It got to the point where they were going
Speaker:1035
,181 --> 00:37:54,170
Graham McTavish: yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker:1036
,310 --> 00:37:55,797
Graham McTavish: Ok, graham, we, we, we get it.
Speaker:1037
,350 --> 00:37:58,879
Graham McTavish: We just need you to become Mikhail
Speaker:1038
,999 --> 00:38:01,868
Graham McTavish: Novakovich now and be the Russian
Speaker:1039
,929 --> 00:38:02,330
Graham McTavish: ambassador.
Speaker:1040
,491 --> 00:38:04,158
Graham McTavish: Don't, don't, don't talk about your fandom,
Speaker:1041
,571 --> 00:38:07,713
Graham McTavish: but it was, it was great, i mean, it's it,
Speaker:1042
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Graham McTavish: it.
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Graham McTavish: I think people forget how revolutionary 24
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Graham McTavish: was, Yeah That.
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Marc Preston: I think that's before streaming, of course.
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Graham McTavish: Yeah.
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Marc Preston: Before before, as many options have been 24.
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Marc Preston: That was appointment TV right there.
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Graham McTavish: Oh yeah.
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Marc Preston: I mean I was, i don't.
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Marc Preston: I mean what shows are out there now?
Speaker:1052
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Marc Preston: It may have course like Game of Thrones and
Speaker:1053
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Marc Preston: you know, things like that, which I still I
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Marc Preston: have to admit.
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Marc Preston: I was speaking with somebody the other day.
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Marc Preston: I said I you know, there's just some,
Speaker:1057
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Marc Preston: there's so much stuff out there now.
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Marc Preston: Yes, there are things I'll miss.
Speaker:1059
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Marc Preston: And so and so.
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Marc Preston: No, yeah, i'm, I'm planning on, i'm waiting,
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Marc Preston: because I got two children in college.
Speaker:1062
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Marc Preston: Now one's about to do their gap year, so
Speaker:1063
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Marc Preston: finally the TV gets to be 100 percent mine
Speaker:1064
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Marc Preston: to watch.
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Graham McTavish: You know there's so much.
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Graham McTavish: So you know, in the time that you're
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Graham McTavish: waiting to watch you know eight seasons of
Speaker:1068
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Graham McTavish: Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon,
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Graham McTavish: you will you'll be having other shows that
Speaker:1070
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Graham McTavish: you'll want to watch.
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, you know, i've never seen the wire.
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Graham McTavish: You know everyone's always going.
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Marc Preston: Neither have I And again I go back to
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Marc Preston: Anthony Bourdain mentioned that.
Speaker:1075
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Marc Preston: I think he said that was one of his
Speaker:1076
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Marc Preston: favorite shows ever.
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Marc Preston: The same production team did.
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Marc Preston: I was down in New Orleans.
Speaker:1079
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Marc Preston: They were shooting Treme Treme.
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Marc Preston: Can you say?
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Announcer: that.
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Marc Preston: They've never seen that either, and in fact
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Marc Preston: I saw your.
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Marc Preston: I auditioned for Preacher a few times.
Speaker:1085
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Marc Preston: I saw you were in that And I didn't get
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Marc Preston: more than trying to remember what did you
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Marc Preston: do in Preacher.
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Marc Preston: I'm trying to remember.
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Marc Preston: I was the saint of killers.
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Marc Preston: I've only gotten in like two or three
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Marc Preston: episodes into that show, so I need to go
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Marc Preston: further in.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, so the saint of killers.
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Graham McTavish: It was literally a dream for me to do that
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Graham McTavish: role, because I loved the graphic novels
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Graham McTavish: and I loved him.
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Graham McTavish: So he's yeah, i mean, look, you know,
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Graham McTavish: playing a character called the saint of
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Graham McTavish: killers.
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, it's going to be fun.
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Graham McTavish: So we're, we're, we're the ball.
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Marc Preston: I do.
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Marc Preston: I do have to ask, being a part of the
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Being in the Hobbit
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Marc Preston: Hobbit and the Peter Jackson ecosystem,
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Marc Preston: what was that like?
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Marc Preston: What was it comparatively to the other
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Marc Preston: stuff you've done?
Speaker:1108
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Marc Preston: You know what, what, what, how has that
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Marc Preston: experience any different or unique and fine,
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Marc Preston: oh, well, certainly, up to that point, i'd
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Marc Preston: never experienced anything like it.
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Graham McTavish: I don't think any of us had just the sheer
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Graham McTavish: scale of it.
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Graham McTavish: It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a juggernaut,
Speaker:1115
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Graham McTavish: it's enormous.
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Graham McTavish: So, you know, we shot.
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Graham McTavish: I can't even remember how many hundreds of
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Graham McTavish: days that we shot on it over two and a half
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Graham McTavish: years.
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Graham McTavish: But you, you, you became a sort of family,
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Graham McTavish: especially the dwarves, because you were
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Graham McTavish: uniquely clad in all of this stuff, the
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Graham McTavish: prosthetics and the costumes which you know.
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Graham McTavish: My costume weighed nearly 70 pounds, so it
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Graham McTavish: was.
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Graham McTavish: It was like running around with a person on
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Graham McTavish: your back.
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Graham McTavish: So it was.
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Graham McTavish: It was a very intense experience, but but
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Graham McTavish: truly wonderful.
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Graham McTavish: I remember, you know, any time that you
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Graham McTavish: would be feel tired or fatigued or you just
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Graham McTavish: wanted to go home, i would remind myself
Speaker:1134
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Graham McTavish: how lucky I was to be there.
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Graham McTavish: And it was.
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Graham McTavish: It was an amazing experience, yeah.
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Marc Preston: I need to get to New Zealand and just I,
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Marc Preston: just it's one of the places it's such a
Speaker:1139
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Marc Preston: it's such a it's such a unique history too.
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Announcer: It's a beautiful place.
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Marc Preston: It's an incredible country.
Speaker:1142
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Marc Preston: Yeah, you should go, but of course you are.
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Marc Preston: you are my Sherpa of all things, scotland,
Speaker:1144
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Marc Preston: you know.
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Marc Preston: so I'm going to be, you know, because I'm
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Marc Preston: going to be watching the show, like
Speaker:1147
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Marc Preston: afterwards going it, you know, i learned a
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Marc Preston: new thing.
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Marc Preston: So the, the Men and Kilt, are y'all coming
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Marc Preston: out with a new season of that soon, or is
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Marc Preston: that?
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Graham McTavish: August the 11th is when it starts on stars.
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Graham McTavish: We begin there, and the book that deals
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Graham McTavish: with the experience of shooting that show
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Graham McTavish: in New Zealand, clanlands in New Zealand,
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Graham McTavish: is published on November the 7th.
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Marc Preston: So Okay, so the book is very good.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, that's, that's because I so want to
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Marc Preston: learn a little bit more.
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Marc Preston: Because, like I said, i went down that
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Marc Preston: rabbit hole and realized, oh, my family,
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Marc Preston: many, many, many, i think 16 great
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Marc Preston: grandfathers back was the one who, maybe a
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Marc Preston: little bit more, financed the Mayflower.
Speaker:1165
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Marc Preston: That's kind of a.
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Marc Preston: It probably goes further back than that I
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Marc Preston: buy a lot of track.
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Graham McTavish: but it was such an interesting to be able
Speaker:1169
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Graham McTavish: to draw a line between then and now and go,
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Graham McTavish: wow, that's, i know I know, i know It's a
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Graham McTavish: yeah, we've written a couple of three, but
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Graham McTavish: this is the third book, so we wrote one on
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Graham McTavish: the first season as well And then we did
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Graham McTavish: the now Menach.
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Graham McTavish: But they, you know, the first one covers
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Graham McTavish: Scotland and our experience in Scotland,
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Graham McTavish: and this one covers our experience in New
Speaker:1178
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Graham McTavish: Zealand and their history and their
Speaker:1179
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Graham McTavish: connection with Scotland.
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Marc Preston: Now are y'all.
Speaker:1181
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Marc Preston: Are you working on anything else right now,
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Upcoming Projects and Travel Challenges
,957 --> 00:42:49,284
Marc Preston: or is that they have any new shows that are
Speaker:1183
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Marc Preston: going to be rolling out?
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Graham McTavish: Well, i've just been to the premiere of a
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Graham McTavish: nice independent movie that I did in
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Graham McTavish: Montana last year.
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Graham McTavish: that is due for release next year, i
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Graham McTavish: believe.
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Graham McTavish: Yes, that's when it's going to be.
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Graham McTavish: Well, that's another part of that.
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Marc Preston: That's actually a part of the US That,
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Marc Preston: depending where you are, might remind you a
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Marc Preston: little bit more of Scotland, just
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Marc Preston: graphically, you know.
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Graham McTavish: Yes, and a big Scottish connection there,
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Graham McTavish: actually, i found with the McDonald's,
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Graham McTavish: interestingly enough, but it's called
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Graham McTavish: Somewhere in Montana, so that's coming out.
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Graham McTavish: And then we start shooting on season four
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Graham McTavish: of The Witcher later in the year, So that's
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Graham McTavish: that's that's coming out.
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Graham McTavish: And I worked on Love, death and Robots for
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Graham McTavish: Netflix, which will be coming out I guess
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Graham McTavish: later this year, maybe early next year, i'm
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Graham McTavish: not sure.
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Marc Preston: And I'm doing an independent.
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Graham McTavish: It seems like you're you're.
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Marc Preston: you're working nonstop, though It sounds
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Marc Preston: like you're you're very.
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Marc Preston: Yeah well, it can be.
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Marc Preston: It can be rigorous, though, you know, from
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Marc Preston: one project to travel.
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Graham McTavish: The travel is the hard thing for me now
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Graham McTavish: It's.
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Graham McTavish: It's brutal.
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Graham McTavish: Having Kevin kids in New Zealand doesn't
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Graham McTavish: help.
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Marc Preston: But before we get going, i like to ask what
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Marc Preston: I call my seven questions, and it's a
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Marc Preston: question that Diane asked the whole time.
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Marc Preston: The first one is what your favorite comfort
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Marc Preston: food is, and that really dovetails into
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Marc Preston: something I'm curious about.
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Marc Preston: It could be the same thing or be something
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Marc Preston: different.
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Marc Preston: Growing up, if somebody say, oh yeah, you
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Marc Preston: had that all the time and, scott, i'm from
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Marc Preston: Texas and elsewhere they don't think of
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Marc Preston: having chicken fried steak in the morning
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Marc Preston: with eggs.
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Marc Preston: You know, i think it's something in Texas,
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Marc Preston: depending where you are.
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Marc Preston: Comfort food yeah, cheese, oh, cheese,
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Marc Preston: cheese.
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Marc Preston: I love cheese, partial to any particular
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Marc Preston: cheese.
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Graham McTavish: I'm pretty, you know I'm pretty Catholic in
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Graham McTavish: my tastes of cheese.
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Graham McTavish: I'll eat pretty much any cheese.
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Graham McTavish: I used to sit in front of the TV when I was
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Graham McTavish: a kid with just a block of cheese and just
Speaker:1242
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Graham McTavish: eat my way through it.
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Graham McTavish: So yes, it's a very strong connection to my
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Graham McTavish: childhood.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, i think I did an okay job with my
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Marc Preston: kids.
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Marc Preston: We'll go to Whole Foods and we'll go to the
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Marc Preston: cheese section, and they'll be totally okay
Speaker:1249
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Marc Preston: getting the funkiest, stinkiest, runniest
Speaker:1250
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Marc Preston: cheese.
Speaker:1251
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Marc Preston: They understand that the smellier it is,
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Marc Preston: the more interesting the taste will be, and
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Marc Preston: sometimes it shocks me the stuff they'll
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Marc Preston: eat.
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Marc Preston: But as I've gotten older, though, i'm like
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Marc Preston: keeping an eye on the cholesterol, so I'm
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Marc Preston: like I don't know.
Speaker:1258
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Marc Preston: It's like you know some things you got to
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Marc Preston: let just let go and do it Exactly, Exactly
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Marc Preston: Now, real quick, like if you were to say
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Marc Preston: Scotland, though, what would they mean
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Marc Preston: outside of Haggis or Benito's Haggis?
Speaker:1263
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Marc Preston: but what is something that is pretty
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Marc Preston: ubiquitous.
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Marc Preston: Everybody had it either as a dinner item,
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Marc Preston: something for breakfast Kippers Ah, okay,
Speaker:1267
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Marc Preston: Smoked kippers, right.
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Graham McTavish: Kippers yes, My father used to stink the
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Graham McTavish: kitchen out regularly with smoked kippers.
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Marc Preston: Well, that's a fantastic and that they are
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Marc Preston: kind of the same way in Holland.
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Marc Preston: I think they love their kippers there as
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Marc Preston: well.
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Marc Preston: All right Now if you were to sit down and
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Marc Preston: have next question.
Speaker:1276
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Marc Preston: have a cup of coffee, you and three people
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Marc Preston: that now, living or not, who would be kind
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Marc Preston: of nice to spend a few hours with three
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Marc Preston: people you can think of to have
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Marc Preston: conversation for a bit?
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Marc Preston: Oh boy.
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Graham McTavish: Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, that's a big ask.
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Graham McTavish: Well, shakespeare, definitely That would be
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Graham McTavish: an interesting person to have over for
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Graham McTavish: dinner.
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Graham McTavish: I think somebody like well, from a skank's
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Graham McTavish: point of view, someone like William Wallace,
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Graham McTavish: he'd be interesting to spend an evening
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Graham McTavish: with.
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Graham McTavish: And possibly, let me think, somebody like
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Graham McTavish: well, yeah, i mean, i grew up loving Clint
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Graham McTavish: Eastwood, you see, and so I.
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Graham McTavish: It would be an interesting evening, clint
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Graham McTavish: Eastwood, william Wallace and William
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Graham McTavish: Shakespeare.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, wouldn't be bored.
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Marc Preston: I mean, i think he's directed by Clint
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Marc Preston: Eastwood is very interesting, he's just a
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Marc Preston: little different.
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i hear that too.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, Yeah, Like instead of yelling action,
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Marc Preston: he's like, okay, go, That's right.
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Marc Preston: It's amazing that guy's in his 90s.
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Marc Preston: What he's still doing I know Inspiring.
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Marc Preston: Now, if you go back, go back in time when
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Marc Preston: you were a young man and the first time you
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Marc Preston: noticed somebody on TV or film who was your
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Marc Preston: first celebrity crush.
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Marc Preston: You just see them and they're like, oh you
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Marc Preston: know, they grabbed your attention out of
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Marc Preston: the gate.
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Graham McTavish: And Tony Curtis in the persuaders.
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Marc Preston: You know, it's really interesting to bring
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Marc Preston: up the Roger Moore thing going thinking 007.
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Marc Preston: I have to ask, though, who is your favorite
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Marc Preston: James Bond, sean Connery, i mean no
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Marc Preston: question.
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Marc Preston: Of course, you know I would say Sean
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Marc Preston: Connery first, and I do have to say I grew
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Marc Preston: up with Roger Moore as being my 007 and my
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Marc Preston: but.
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Marc Preston: Daniel Craig they paid homage like with,
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Marc Preston: with, uh, I can't remember.
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Marc Preston: The movie was named after the estate that
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Marc Preston: he grew up on as a young child.
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Graham McTavish: But Skyfall.
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Marc Preston: Skyfall.
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Marc Preston: So James Bond was Scottish, which I didn't
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Marc Preston: really put two and two together till later.
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Graham McTavish: So well, yeah, i mean that's what Sam
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Graham McTavish: Mendes decided.
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Graham McTavish: But yes, I mean I don't.
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Graham McTavish: I mean I think you know when you read the
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Graham McTavish: books, yeah, it's interesting.
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Graham McTavish: I mean, connery brought real danger to the
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Graham McTavish: character, which is very important if
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Graham McTavish: you're a fan of the books.
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Marc Preston: I took a cruise with my children down to
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Marc Preston: the Caribbean.
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Marc Preston: We went to Jamaica and I really wanted to
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Marc Preston: go to where, uh, where the, where the books
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Marc Preston: were written, because it's, it's like a
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Marc Preston: resortish golden.
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Marc Preston: I, yeah, and I do, we do, we just didn't
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Marc Preston: have time to, but I wanted to go.
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Marc Preston: But um, now, speaking of an island, the
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Marc Preston: next question if you were to be forced to
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Marc Preston: live on an exotic island, somewhere you
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Marc Preston: want to be, it's nice, but it doesn't have
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Marc Preston: streaming internet, so you're going to need
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Marc Preston: to bring, uh, to listen to music, one DVD,
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Marc Preston: uh, one CD rather, and also a movie you can
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Marc Preston: watch over and over again.
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Marc Preston: What would be a?
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Marc Preston: what would be the DVD you want to bring?
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Marc Preston: So, a movie and an album, the DVD, like a
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Marc Preston: TV show, you mean?
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Marc Preston: Uh, that's true, it could be a TV show, it
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Marc Preston: could be a movie, something you can watch
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Marc Preston: over and over.
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Graham McTavish: Um, it's a mad, mad, mad mad world.
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Graham McTavish: I love that film.
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Marc Preston: I love that film Now, musically, what, what,
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Marc Preston: what would be the album you'd want to have
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Marc Preston: with you?
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Graham McTavish: Oh gosh.
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Graham McTavish: Well, probably it would have to be an album
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Graham McTavish: that I grew up with, so it would either be
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Graham McTavish: the clash or it would be maybe Pink Floyd,
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Graham McTavish: something like that.
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Marc Preston: I would like to see a resurgence of love
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Marc Preston: and affection for the what, what, what I
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Marc Preston: could be, we'd be called retro music now,
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Marc Preston: but there was such a such a definitive era.
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Marc Preston: You know things like that.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, that was um now, if you were to go
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Marc Preston: next question from the time you wake up in
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Marc Preston: the morning until the time you go to bed,
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Marc Preston: what would be the component parts?
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Marc Preston: How would you define a perfect day for you?
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Marc Preston: You know what would be the pieces of that
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Marc Preston: perfect day?
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Graham McTavish: Gosh good cup of coffee, followed by a good
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Graham McTavish: walk, followed by lunch with my kids,
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Graham McTavish: followed by I don't know a cycle ride.
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Graham McTavish: That would be a great thing to have.
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Graham McTavish: And, uh, going to see a movie at the cinema
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Graham McTavish: with my closest friends That would be a
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Graham McTavish: great day.
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Marc Preston: That is really, really nice And I like that
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Marc Preston: it starts off with a cup of coffee.
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Marc Preston: I can identify with that.
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Marc Preston: But it's not tea, Is it?
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Marc Preston: So why is it not tea?
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Marc Preston: Why is it coffee?
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Marc Preston: I have to ask a gentleman from your neck of
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Marc Preston: the woods I just, i just, uh, i've
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Marc Preston: transitioned into coffee, yeah.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, i would again when that trip
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Marc Preston: down to, uh, jamaica, we got a big bank of
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Marc Preston: coffee.
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Marc Preston: We got a big bank of this blue mountain
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Marc Preston: coffee And I and I'm telling you that is
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Marc Preston: some of the it's expensive as heck to get
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Marc Preston: if you're not there, but it's so that's
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Marc Preston: like my favorite coffee now.
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Career Paths and Advice
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Marc Preston: Um, now, last couple of questions.
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Marc Preston: If you weren't doing this, if you did not
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Marc Preston: end up being a Thespian, having the career
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Marc Preston: you had, what would be the other path you
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Marc Preston: would be on?
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Marc Preston: Uh.
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Graham McTavish: I would have been a pilot.
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Graham McTavish: I would have been an airline pilot.
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Graham McTavish: That's what I was getting ready to do.
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Graham McTavish: I was going to join the RAF and I was going
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Graham McTavish: to follow in my father's footsteps.
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Marc Preston: Uh, did you?
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Marc Preston: did you ever do your pilots, uh, private
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Marc Preston: pilots license?
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Marc Preston: Sadly not, sadly not.
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Marc Preston: No, a great regret.
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Marc Preston: But the last question I've got for you if
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Marc Preston: you were to have that DeLorean and go back
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Marc Preston: in time and you had just a few minutes with
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Marc Preston: 16 year old you piece of advice that you'd
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Marc Preston: want to impart either make that moment of
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Marc Preston: your life better or maybe put you on a
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Marc Preston: little bit different of a path What advice
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Marc Preston: would you have for 16 year old Graham?
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Graham McTavish: I wouldn't want to give put myself on a
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Graham McTavish: different path, to be honest, I would just,
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Graham McTavish: I would just tell him to trust your
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Graham McTavish: instincts really and not worry so much.
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Marc Preston: That's.
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Marc Preston: One of the most common responses is don't
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Marc Preston: worry, trust the process, go through it.
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Marc Preston: Don't, don't stress yourself, um, because,
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Marc Preston: like you were saying, all those decisions
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Marc Preston: you make, you don't know the sequence of
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Marc Preston: events that get you from there to here.
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Marc Preston: Yeah Well, graham, thank you.
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Marc Preston: I do want to thank you for taking time out.
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Marc Preston: It really is special.
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Marc Preston: And again, i appreciate your education on
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Marc Preston: the all things Scotland.
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Marc Preston: Well, i'm going to continue my education.
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Marc Preston: I promise my pleasure.
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Marc Preston: All right, there you go.
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Marc Preston: Mr Graham McTavish, Enjoy this chat quite a
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Marc Preston: bit.
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Marc Preston: Don't forget, he is literally on TV
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Marc Preston: everywhere.
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Marc Preston: He is in House of the Dragon, the game of
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Marc Preston: Thrones prequel.
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Marc Preston: It's on HBO Max, or just Max.
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Marc Preston: I'm going to say HBO Max forever, i think.
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Marc Preston: Also, he is an outlander.
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Marc Preston: The stars show and his stars co-star, sam
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Marc Preston: Hewan, got together with him to make the
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Marc Preston: show Men in Kiltz road trip with Sam and
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Marc Preston: Graham.
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Marc Preston: That comes out the new season, that is on
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Marc Preston: August 11th.
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Marc Preston: And of course, you can check out Graham on
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Marc Preston: the show The Witcher on Netflix.
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Marc Preston: And that's it for me today.
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Marc Preston: And again, if you don't mind a little quick
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Marc Preston: moment to grab your phone, hit that
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Marc Preston: subscribe button like the episode and give
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Marc Preston: Huh, love those five stars working hard for
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Marc Preston: them And I want to thank you.
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Marc Preston: It does mean a lot to me coming back every
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Marc Preston: week to check out the show And if you're
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Marc Preston: brand new to the show, hey, come on back by
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Marc Preston: for another episode Shortly.
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Marc Preston: You go, have a great rest of your day.
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Marc Preston: If you are working out, if you're driving,
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Marc Preston: whatever you're up to right now, just be
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Marc Preston: safe.
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Marc Preston: I really do appreciate it And we'll get
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Marc Preston: together next time.
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Marc Preston: How about that?
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Graham McTavish
Actor
Graham McTavish is a Scottish television and film actor, best known for his roles as Dougal Mackenzie in the popular TV series "Outlander" (2014-16), as Dwalin in the "The Hobbit" trilogy for Peter Jackson (2012-14) as well as the Saint of Killers in AMC's series "Preacher", based on Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon's cult comic book series (2016 onwards). He also starred alongside Sylvester Stallone in "Rambo" (2008) and "Creed" (2015), making him the only actor to perform opposite Rocky AND Rambo. He is also known for his roles in numerous other TV shows and movies including "Red Dwarf" (1998), "24" (2009), "Rome" (2004), "The Finest Hours" (2015) and "Colombiana" (2011). As well as extensive theatre work throughout the UK including The Royal Court, and The Royal National Theatre, he is well known for his voice work on games and animated TV, including "Uncharted 2, 3, and 4", "Call of Duty", "Dante's Inferno", Loki in "Hulk v Thor" and "The Avengers", "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" and "Kung Fu Panda"