Actor Michael Beach from "ER" and Paramount+'s "Tulsa King" joins us on Story & Craft.
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Actor Michael Beach from “ER” and Paramount+’s “Tulsa King” joins us on Story & Craft.
Michael talks about growing up in Boston’s Roxbury, the turning point that took him from football to Juilliard, and his Cape Verdean heritage and his mother’s work as an educator. We talk about his roles on “The Rookie,” “Mayor of Kingstown” and “Tulsa King,” his audition for “The Rookie,” and how the industry has changed since “ER.” We also talk fitness and pizza.
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
Michael Beach joins Story & Craft
Michael Beach Shares Acting Journey
Reconnecting After Mother’s Passing
Transition From Juilliard to Hollywood
Portraying Fatherhood on Screen
Actor Auditions and Upcoming Projects
Importance of Health and Pizza
Admiration for Frederick Douglass
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Full Transcript
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I play a man who was a walrus through most
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Michael: of his life and now is fighting to become a
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Michael: walrus again because he doesn't appreciate
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Michael: being a man.
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Announcer: Welcome to Story Craft.
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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.
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Marc: All right here we are another episode of
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Marc: Hello, how are you?
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Marc: I'm Marc Preston.
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Marc: It does mean a lot to me because, hey, you
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Marc: Today, great conversation we are chatting
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Marc: Been acting for a long time and some great
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Marc: Right now he's on the Rookie on ABC, Also
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Marc: He's on Tulsa King as well Another king, if
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Marc: July 14th.
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Marc: Michael Beach great conversation.
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Marc: Really enjoyed sitting down with him,
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Marc: Learned a lot about his career and just a
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Marc: Today is Michael Beach Day, right here on
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Marc: Story Craft.
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Marc: So whereabouts are you joining us from
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Michael: Right now I'm in Pittsburgh.
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Marc: Pittsburgh.
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Marc: Okay, okay, Are you filming, yeah?
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Michael: we're filming the last few episodes, the
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Michael: last couple of episodes of Mayor of
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Michael: Kingstown.
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Michael: Where are you from originally?
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Michael: Originally, I was born in Boston, in
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Michael: Roxbury, and spent, you know, my first, you
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Michael: know, 10, 11 years there and then still
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Michael: stayed in the Massachusetts area but went
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Michael: out to school and then from there went to
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Michael: New York.
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Marc: So the family were they in the arts as well,
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Marc: or were they in any kind of performance?
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Marc: Or were you the odd man out there?
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Michael: Totally odd man out.
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Michael: Nobody had anything to do with the arts at
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Michael: all in my family and still don't.
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Michael: Actually, I'm the only surviving arts guy.
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Marc: You said you went to New York.
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Marc: Did you go out there for acting or were you
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Marc: education-wise?
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Michael: Yeah, I ended up in high school.
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Michael: I thought I was going to play football and
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Michael: then, after an injury that didn't allow me
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Michael: to continue, that's when I started acting,
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Michael: and so I went out to New York because I had
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Michael: gotten into theater school and that's where
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Michael: I went and really got my formal training.
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Michael: Where did you go to school?
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Michael: I went to.
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Marc: Juilliard Speaking with Reed Diamond.
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Marc: Reed Diamond, I think.
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Marc: Reed Diamond, yes, I think you went out
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Marc: there yeah reading, work together on
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Marc: something, but reed is after me I was just
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Marc: thinking the other day, because you
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Marc: I I'll get into it later, but you always
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Marc: land on shows I really like I was like it
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Marc: I think it was at Third Watch.
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Marc: Third Watch, yeah, that was about 21, 22
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Marc: years ago, I think.
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Michael: Yeah, I think Third Watch started in 99,
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Michael: same year.
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Michael: That believe it or not, because same year
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Michael: that West Wing started and SUV Law and
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Michael: Order, or SVU sorry.
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Marc: It was good for NBC.
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Marc: They came out of the gate with some winners
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Marc: Yeah, I'm sorry, I just had to process that
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Marc: I was like, yeah, 25 years ago now, wow,
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Marc: wow.
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Marc: So going back to football, what position
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Marc: I was a running back.
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Marc: Yeah, who was your team?
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Michael: Well, at the time I was a big Patriots fan,
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Michael: mostly because that's what my mother was
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Michael: Okay and because, to be honest with you, my
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Michael: whole, even though I was very active sports
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Michael: guy even after that got into martial arts
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Michael: and stuff.
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Michael: I was I sport.
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Michael: I did go to a lot of live basketball games
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Michael: because I was doing things with people that
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Michael: were very connected.
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Michael: So I was able to go to a few live games and
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Michael: I found those to be very exciting.
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Michael: But but didn't really watch much on TV and
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Michael: still really don't.
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Marc: Yeah, you know that's something that rest
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Marc: But my grandfather used to we're from
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Marc: But the thing is I so wanted to get in
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Marc: I just never got that.
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Marc: I mean sitting down having a hot dog,
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Marc: That's pretty cool, right, but I just never
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Marc: I haven't heard too many people say that.
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Marc: Usually people pretty fanatical, you know.
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Michael: But just like when it comes to that, then
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Michael: if that's the case, you mentioned your
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Michael: mother.
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Marc: What kind of vocation did she have going on?
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Michael: My mother was an educator.
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Michael: Really Well, she started out, you know,
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Michael: You know my mother was a single mom with
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Michael: That really just stressed education for us.
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Michael: She didn't make it to college right out of
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Michael: high school she left home among a Cape
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Michael: Verdean community, which is a community of
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Michael: like kind of a mix between the Senegalese
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Michael: what the Cape Verdean Islands became.
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Marc: Now does she come over from there, or is
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Marc: that just where her people came from?
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Michael: My mother was full-blooded.
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Michael: Her mother and her father were both Cape
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Michael: Verdean, from an island called Fogo.
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Michael: There are 10 inhabitable islands off the
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Michael: west coast of Africa that encompass the
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Michael: Cape Verdean islands.
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Michael: There are more islands, but there's only 10
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Michael: And there's a big in Massachusetts, down in
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Michael: the Cape area, and there's a big Cape
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Michael: Verdean community community and that's
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Michael: where she grew up and and then and then you
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Michael: move off into into the Boston area in the
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Michael: Roxbury, which is where I grew up.
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Michael: Um, and she, she basically uh pushed us
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Michael: She pushed us into education and then she
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Michael: ended up after after her last child, uh,
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Michael: went to college, she ended up going to mit.
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Michael: Oh really, yeah, she's a very smart woman,
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Michael: very smart woman and and got into in the in
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Michael: the 80s, was very, very involved in the
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Michael: She started a nonprofit called the
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Michael: Multicultural AIDS I don't know if it was
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Michael: program or whatever the last wording was
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Michael: and she was a champion back then and spent
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Michael: a lot of years helping a lot of people.
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Michael: She's very well known in the Boston area,
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Michael: really For that.
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Michael: Yeah.
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Marc: Well, I think back then was, you know, I
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Marc: was just thinking.
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Marc: It just popped in my mind the other day.
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Marc: I was sitting on the sofa with my daughter
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Marc: and a commercial for an HIV medication came
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Marc: on and I had this momentary flashback to
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Marc: the 80s and just what it was like back then
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Marc: was there was a lot of either confusion,
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Marc: there was a lot of the word escapes me a
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Marc: lot of prejudice, if you will, against you
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Marc: know of the word escapes me a lot of
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Marc: prejudice, if you will, against you know,
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Marc: when you do an A-B comparison between then
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Marc: and now, I think kids now don't fully
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Marc: understand what the AIDS thing in the 80s,
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Marc: you know, was all about.
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Marc: So how did she get involved in that?
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Marc: As somebody who went to MIT, was she, you
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Marc: know, just an educator at heart and she
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Marc: found that there was a way to kind of help
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Marc: to insert herself, to kind of help based on
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Marc: her education.
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Michael: Yeah, I think in general she was really
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Michael: focusing on what the Black community had
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Michael: the government aides were and obviously the
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Michael: stigma of AIDS in general and then of
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Michael: course in particular how that affected the
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Michael: Black community.
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Michael: But you know the name of her organization
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Michael: was Multicultural, so it was.
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Michael: It had to do with a lot of groups that were
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Michael: marginalized in many ways.
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Michael: But of course, if you're marginalized in
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Michael: the general way, then when AIDS came along
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Michael: and it was marginalized, no matter who you
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Michael: were, it was obviously exponentially
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Michael: marginalized among the minority community
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Michael: and that's something that really bothered
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Michael: her and so she yeah, and wasn't there some
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Michael: like internal prejudices as well, because
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Michael: those who had it it was considered a gay
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Michael: disease.
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Marc: So if you were in this community and and it
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Marc: was it there was a lot.
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Marc: There are a lot of moving parts to that, a
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Marc: lot of social uh can't think of the word
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Marc: but a lot of social stresses to you know,
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Marc: yeah, people wouldn't be getting the, the
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Marc: preventative for even treatment, or it was.
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Marc: Uh, it was a wild time exactly.
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Marc: But that.
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Michael: that was, that was her main concern is that
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Michael: the community wasn't paid attention to,
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Michael: wasn't given the equal treatment, even
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Michael: though the treatment early on back then was
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Michael: terrible for everyone no-transcript.
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Marc: Yeah, early on.
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Michael: I mean, she was, she was there from the
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Michael: beginning.
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Michael: You know when it became, when you know,
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Michael: before it became national.
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Marc: Well, you said she went to MIT.
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Michael: What was she studying at MIT?
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Michael: What was her?
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Michael: Was she always?
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Michael: And obviously MIT is a you know technical,
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Michael: so she, I mean, she spent, she spent time
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Michael: there.
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Michael: She spent time at Harvard.
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Michael: You know again, this is when I was in
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Michael: college, so I wasn't even living in Boston
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Michael: her entire life.
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Marc: Was there that itch you wanted to get out
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Michael: I didn't even know there were schools that
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Michael: You know, that was totally news to me
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Michael: Because, remember, I was a football player
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Michael: So I didn't have this long history of
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Marc: It kind of seems like you sort of seized
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Michael: Well it was.
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Marc: You said you need your mother, single
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Michael: right, I have, uh, an older brother, an
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Michael: my, my sister is, my older sister is in um,
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Michael: is in insurance doing very well, and my
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Michael: younger sister has turned into the
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Michael: Actually, she's still in education.
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Michael: He's still in education, my older brother.
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Michael: He had working with children for God a few
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Michael: that's his thing now.
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Marc: Well, I always kind of like to check in
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Marc: Now I have three kids.
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Marc: But do you all still have with four kids
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Marc: Do the big family get togethers for
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Michael: Yeah, you know, we, we we actually have
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Michael: never been very close, to be honest, with
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Michael: you, until the death of my mother.
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Michael: My mother passed away in 2017.
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Michael: And we had we all gathered I was actually
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Michael: I was in Australia at the time and my
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Michael: really weren't, you know, we weren't on the
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Michael: almost never.
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Michael: My, my wife's family is the exact opposite.
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Michael: I mean, they're always on the phone and
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Michael: always doing FaceTime calls, and so since
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Michael: I think we've had one where one or two of
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Michael: us would see each other we were trying to
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Michael: get together for this Thanksgiving actually,
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Michael: as well but we do have a family text
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Michael: and let everybody know what's going on.
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Marc: It's a lot easier now with having text
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Marc: being able to do that.
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Marc: I as a father try to be efficient.
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Marc: I've got my youngest daughter here and my
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Marc: two oldest are at school at Loyola in New
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Marc: Orleans, so if I have the same thing to say
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Marc: to all three of them, I'm like that's
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Marc: efficient.
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Marc: I can send one text that goes to all three.
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Marc: You know, as my high school football coach
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Marc: once said, I'm not lazy, I'm just very
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Marc: efficient.
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Marc: By the way, I want to back up.
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Marc: I always end up talking about food at some
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Marc: You say a Verdean, right?
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Marc: Is that how you say it?
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Marc: A Verdean, yes, verdean, food-wise.
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Marc: I'm curious, was your mother a big cook?
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Marc: Is there a is weird, because my grandmother
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Marc: was a huge, huge cook, like that was her
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Marc: love.
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Marc: So what's kind?
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Michael: of the cuisine.
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Michael: Is it seafood based?
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Michael: Is it more African?
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Michael: What kind of culinary tradition?
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Michael: I think it's a mix.
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Michael: I mean, I'm not.
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Michael: I'm not a big food person, so I don't know
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Michael: the the origins of it, but they're
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Michael: definitely.
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Michael: You know, there are definitely foods that
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Michael: that I have grown up with, that my from my
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Michael: grandmother and actually my uncle and my
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Michael: aunt were, have kept it going on, have kept
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Michael: So we you know my wife has learned has
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Michael: gotten recipes that were passed down, not
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Michael: even from my grandmother, I think before my
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Michael: grandmother, and we still have some of
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Michael: those at my house, even though the,
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Michael: unfortunately, the Cape Verdean heritage
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Michael: has not really been passed down to my kids.
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Michael: You know, my adult kids, I have adult kids
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Michael: and I have younger kids.
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Michael: How many kids do you have?
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Michael: I have eight children, eight.
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Marc: Yeah, you have a team.
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Michael: Yeah, I have four from my first marriage
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Michael: and four from my present marriage.
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Marc: Growing up as an only child, I always
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Marc: thought it'd be cool to have a big, big
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Marc: family, and once it got to three I was like
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Marc: I think we're pretty good.
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Marc: I think we're pretty good at three.
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Michael: You're a smart man, that's why.
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Marc: They're not cheap investments but they're
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Marc: They're the best investment.
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Transition From Juilliard to Hollywood
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Marc: Though You're in New York, you're at
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Marc: Juilliard how do things blossom from there.
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Marc: Had you been in New York working
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Marc: post-Juilliard, had you been doing kind of
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Marc: the circuit, the soap opera thing, kind of
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Marc: the usual circuit a lot of actors do in New
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Marc: York, right, right.
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Michael: To be honest, I was, I was, I was pretty
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Michael: fortunate in terms of, in terms of getting
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Michael: into film and TV right out of Juilliard,
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Michael: you know, I thought going there and once I,
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Michael: you know, I got into the training and it's
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Michael: very classical, oriented, oriented, um, I,
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Michael: I, I, I started my first film maybe two,
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Michael: two weeks after I graduated, uh, right in
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Michael: the city, I did my first film and from that
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Michael: point on I just started doing film and TV.
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Michael: So I, I, literally in my entire career,
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Michael: have done very little theater.
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Michael: Most of it has been film and TV.
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Michael: And I pretty much stayed in New York about
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Michael: two and a half years after my graduation
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Michael: and then I moved to LA because I actually
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Michael: was doing a film in LA, and then I got
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Michael: another film while I was shooting that film
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Michael: and then got another film while I was
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Michael: shooting that film.
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Michael: So, you know, at the behest of my agents at
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Michael: the time, I talked to my wife and I said
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Michael: you know, maybe we should move out here,
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Michael: because this is the hub in terms of,
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Michael: because this is the hub in terms of having
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Michael: meetings and then acquiring more and more
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Michael: work.
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Michael: So I was in LA for about 10 years or so
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Michael: before I ended up getting Third Watch and
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Michael: going back to New York and then I was
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Michael: bi-coastal because third watch it, third
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Michael: watch it never become the hit where you
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Michael: knew that, oh, we're gonna automatically
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Michael: get a second season on.
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Marc: It was a great ensemble, though I think it
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Marc: was a wonderful ensemble.
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Marc: And then you had unfortunately,
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Marc: serendipitously, you had 9-11 happened,
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Marc: which that was right, right, oh gosh, you
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Marc: know.
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Marc: Now I'm having to use my memory, which my
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Marc: kids make fun of.
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Marc: Unfortunately, serendipitously, you had
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Marc: 9-11 happen, which that was right, oh gosh.
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Marc: Now I'm having to use my memory, which my
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Marc: kids make fun of.
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Marc: They think it's a horrible memory, but I
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Marc: remember that was right about then.
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Marc: There was a special they did.
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Marc: There was some kind of tie-in to the moment
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Marc: I don't know if it's fundraising kind of a
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Marc: thing, but I seem to remember there was
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Marc: something going on and it seems like that
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Marc: put a little bit more focus on that uh
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Marc: series.
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Marc: There was a little bit.
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Marc: It seemed like they had, like I said, a
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Michael: I mean there was a skip set of yeah,
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Michael: there's a lot kobe, kobe bell, uh, bobby
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Michael: cannavale, yeah, anthony ruivivar, a lot of
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Michael: us, you know, um, yeah, you know, uh, when
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Michael: 9-11 happened, the the question was should
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Michael: we even come back?
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Michael: You know, nbc was wondering if we, if you
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Michael: the situation or if it was appropriate.
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Michael: And on the show we, we literally were using
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Michael: prior to 9-11.
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Michael: We were using a lot of actual firefighters
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Michael: and policemen.
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Michael: They were not only consulting us, but they
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Michael: were background and every once in a while
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Michael: they had a line here or there and a couple
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Michael: actually became recurring characters.
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Michael: But the question was do we come back?
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Michael: And overwhelmingly, the firefighters and
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Michael: the police said you have to come back.
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Michael: You know, it's very important and so that
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Michael: special that you were referring to was
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Michael: basically more about them than it was about
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Michael: the characters.
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Michael: We did real interviews with real members of
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Michael: the FDNY and NYPD about the people that
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Michael: they lost and what was going on that day
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Michael: and all of that.
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Michael: So it was very moving and so it was very
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Michael: moving and you know, and we just became
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Michael: closer with those habit of landing in law
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Michael: enforcement based kind of you know civil
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Michael: servant type.
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Marc: Uh, you know characters that you kind of
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Marc: find a kind of a connection to those kinds
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Marc: of roles.
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Michael: Um, I don't know, I think, uh, I think, um,
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Michael: I'm, I often play a guy in authority
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Michael: positions.
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Michael: Um, and when you look at tv, right, there's,
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Michael: uh, how many shows do you have?
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Michael: It's usually, especially when you go back
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Michael: in time, you have cop shows, you have
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Michael: lawyer shows and doctor shows.
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Michael: Right, though, that was pretty much the the
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Michael: bread and butter of tv.
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Michael: Uh, particularly before um, reality TV came
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Michael: along.
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Marc: Oh yeah, as a kid growing up I was all
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Marc: about Adam-12 and chips and all that, yeah,
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Marc: and emergency Emergency was my OG favorite
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Marc: when I was a little kid.
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Marc: Yeah, emergency.
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Michael: And then shows like Hill Street Blues,
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Michael: So that's really, when you look at a
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Michael: to tell those stories in an episodic
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Michael: always have guests that can come on with
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Michael: You know, so I think for many years that
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Michael: was what was on TV.
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Michael: It's still a very staple of TV, but of
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Marc: Well, you mentioned the thing about
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Marc: I've noticed lately my daughter Emma, my
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Marc: youngest, loved pitch and kind of going
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Marc: forward, even Tulsking, you know you're,
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Marc: and even to well, I know in the it was the
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Marc: first or second season of the Rookie it's
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Marc: being a father, being a father with some
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Michael: Well, you know, of course, that's age,
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Michael: isn't it, you know?
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Marc: when I was acting more my agent, the role
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Marc: started changing, you know, you know, a
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Marc: It just started naturally changing.
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Marc: Your kids give you any feedback on like
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Marc: you're playing a dad, like in Tulsa King.
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Marc: You know you got a son.
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Marc: You're trying to keep on the right track,
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Marc: right.
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Marc: You know, one of my favorite scenes is when
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Marc: you all kind of had that big dust up, you
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Marc: baseball bats or whatever it was, and it
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Marc: was like that's a dad that's really
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Marc: supporting his son.
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Marc: Forget going to baseball games, but what's
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Marc: it like playing a father on TV and you've
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Marc: done it in real life, I'm assuming being a
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Michael: You know, play on TV For me, yeah, I mean,
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Michael: I don't, you know, I, you know, obviously,
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Michael: with being a father, a lot of men are
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Michael: fathers, but you know the idea when you go
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Michael: on TV and you, you know, I love the when
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Michael: they're always, for some reason it's always
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Michael: been being written in where you say, oh,
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Michael: son, and you know, the word son is always
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Michael: used and I almost never call my son son,
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Michael: Hey, son, same here, yeah, same here, right,
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Michael: right, and and oh, I love you and I, you
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Michael: know, and so what I always try to, I always
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Michael: try to do, not just in playing a father,
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Michael: but everything is is to to get rid of the
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Michael: you know, the TV icing of relationships,
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Michael: you know where, where it's all and it's
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Michael: just not me all and and it's just not me
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Michael: obviously a lot of great tv shows do this
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Michael: and movies as well.
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Michael: To where you, you, you know you get rid of
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Michael: that, uh, the, the sugar coating of what
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Michael: being a father is and what the relationship
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Michael: is and how it's always, you know, um, you
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Michael: always have your, the best interest of your
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Michael: kids at heart and not to say say that the
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Michael: fathers I played don't.
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Michael: But there's so much more to parenting and
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Michael: the dark sides of it.
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Michael: You know, and how you.
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Marc: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Marc: That's one thing I really liked about it
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Marc: was pitch you, the relationship with you
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Marc: and Kylie Bunbury.
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Marc: I think that her character, I think it was
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Marc: a little bit fraught, it was a little bit,
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Marc: it was complex.
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Marc: I'll say that it wasn't easily.
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Marc: You know most of when you show.
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Michael: It was mostly flashbacks of course, Right,
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Michael: and he's a hard ass and he's, you know, and
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Michael: the question is do did he push his daughter
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Michael: into something that she wasn't?
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Michael: Uh, that is something that she didn't want
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Michael: to do.
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Michael: You know, is that something that?
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Michael: That you know, that their contentious
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Michael: relationship, but what I really loved about
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Michael: that that show, and that you know we didn't
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Michael: get a long time to do it and it you know it
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Michael: was, it was, I think, anyway, much more in
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Michael: line with a real father daughter or even
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Michael: father son relationship, you know, because,
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Michael: was some of his failures being foisted on
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Michael: You know, like, like you know, I, you need
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Michael: to succeed.
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Michael: You need to succeed where he didn't, and
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Michael: I'm pushing you beyond, beyond where I
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Michael: should.
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Michael: I love bringing some of that in because
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Michael: end, did it help her or did it hurt her?
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Michael: You know, and, uh, that really is kind of
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Michael: left up to the viewer, although obviously
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Michael: you know she's the first woman to play in
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Michael: the major league either.
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Marc: There are certain series I wish had more
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Marc: definitely more story there.
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Marc: I could you know that.
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Marc: That's one of those things my daughter
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Marc: really loved.
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Marc: That baseball is kind of a great medium to
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Marc: tell stories in, but the interesting thing
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Marc: is she's being the first female playing
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Marc: baseball.
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Marc: The relationship you all had was more what
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Marc: you'd think of like cliche father-son kind
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Marc: of a thing.
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Marc: Now, going forward, you're doing Mary
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Marc: Kingstown.
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Marc: How's Jeremy Renner doing?
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Marc: I've been watching some of his videos.
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Marc: He seems to be just kind of bouncing back.
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Marc: He really is.
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Michael: I mean, that was the big question how much
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Michael: will he be able to do?
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Michael: Because this is the first job that he's had
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Michael: They spoke to Jeremy and how he felt that
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Michael: Hugh Dillon and he are pretty close, and so
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Michael: They said, ok, what we're going to do is
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Michael: on set.
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Michael: You know so, whereas before it was he was
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Michael: always around, now they're going to say, oh
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Michael: well, we're going to find days where he
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Michael: works one or two scenes and then days where
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Michael: he's off completely so that he has the
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Michael: ability to rest and recuperate.
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Michael: And he's still working out and taking care
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Michael: of himself and getting the treatment that
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Michael: he needs and taking care of himself and
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Michael: getting the treatment that he needs.
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Michael: But you know, when you talk to him he says
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Michael: he has felt stronger each and every week
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Michael: and being on set with him you can tell
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Michael: You're like this guy's an animal man.
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Marc: Yeah, because I looked at some of his
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Marc: YouTube not YouTube, I'm sorry Instagram
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Marc: stuff he had posted.
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Marc: I was like man, he's put in some work.
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Marc: A poor guy.
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Marc: I mean it's like not YouTube, I'm sorry
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Marc: Instagram stuff he had posted.
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Marc: I was like man he's, he's put in some work.
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Marc: A poor guy.
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Marc: Man, it's like I don't you know that
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Marc: might've just done me in.
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Michael: I mean like all right, yeah, I feel the
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Michael: same way, but he's a workhorse, you know,
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Michael: and he's he's enjoying it.
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Michael: You know he's not here, um, uh, you know,
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Michael: fighting at like, oh, I shouldn't have done
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Michael: this, I shouldn't have.
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Michael: No, he's enjoying it and he, you know,
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Michael: obviously the the one of the one of the
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Michael: good things about him coming him, obviously
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Michael: him being able to come back, but but being
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Michael: cognizant of whether or not how far we can
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Michael: push him, you know, was that the story
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Michael: lines opened up for other characters.
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Michael: Oh, true, true, true, yeah, yeah.
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Michael: So so I think you have a it's listen, it's
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Michael: his show, it's about the mayor and he's the
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Michael: driving force, and that doesn't change at
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Michael: all.
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Michael: And you will.
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Michael: You see, jeremy, you know he's the guy
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Michael: who's on on screen most of the time, but in
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Michael: order to accommodate him, the writers,
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Michael: producers, opened it up a little bit more's.
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Michael: One of the one of the benefits that the
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Michael: that the show and the audience is going to
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Michael: uh partake in is that it's much more uh.
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Michael: You get much more um detail from the other
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Michael: characters in their storyline.
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Marc: It's kind of like even the rookie I mean
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Marc: you know nathan fillion, of course it's the
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Marc: rookie, he's the rookie, you rookie, you
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Marc: know, but really it's a great ensemble.
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Marc: The same kind of a deal there.
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Marc: But I was curious are you at liberty to say
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Marc: are we going to be seeing you showing back
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Marc: up in Tulsa King?
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Marc: I know they're shooting the new season.
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Marc: Are you at liberty to discuss that?
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Marc: Or?
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Michael: Yeah, no, I'm very much in the new season
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Michael: of Tulsa King.
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Marc: Then they moved production up to Atlanta, I
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Marc: think, didn't they?
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Marc: Okay, we went from.
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Michael: Oklahoma to Atlanta yes.
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Marc: Now, as far as Rookie, I'd be remiss.
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Marc: I'm so glad because I know after the first
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Marc: season there was a little bit of not sure
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Marc: how it's going to go, and then they just
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Marc: hit 100 episodes, I think.
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Marc: Right yeah, how did the Rookie come to you?
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Marc: Just one of those casting things like any
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Marc: other.
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Marc: Is there a story behind that?
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Michael: I actually auditioned for Richard T Jones'
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Michael: character.
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Michael: It's one of the last big auditions I
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Michael: actually had.
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Michael: I still know cause I I still audition, but
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Michael: not that often, not that much.
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Michael: But that, uh, you know it came down to
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Michael: Richard and I, and you know remember the
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Michael: old uh and I guess it wasn't that old
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Michael: because the show has been on seven years
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Michael: now or so, but when you would go into to
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Michael: network, uh, audition, uh, audition.
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Marc: So, uh, it came down to me and richard um,
819
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Marc: a lot of chefs in the kitchen when it comes
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Marc: to network, uh, so you know procedurals
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Marc: like that, right?
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Michael: right and basically you know, for those who
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Michael: don't know, when you network, you go into a
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Michael: room and you have the all the studio people
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Michael: and all the network people.
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Michael: You can have upwards of 25 people in the
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Michael: room and you're doing your audition for
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Michael: them and then the next guy goes in.
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Michael: When you get to that stage, there's only
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Michael: like three, maybe four guys vying for the
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Michael: same role.
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Michael: So I went in, I auditioned for that.
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Michael: Clearly, Richard got it and I guess I don't
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Michael: know at what point the creator of the show
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Michael: asked if I would come on as a recurring to
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Michael: play the role I did, which actually happens
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Michael: to me a lot.
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Michael: I mean, that's what happened to me on ER.
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Michael: I actually had to.
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Michael: You know, I went in multiple times to
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Michael: network and of course that goes back, you
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Michael: know, 30 years.
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Michael: Yeah, yeah.
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Marc: I don't think people realize that nowadays.
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Marc: You mentioned ER just as a side note.
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Marc: How, with all the networks and all the
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Marc: streaming and all that, how big a show like
848
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Marc: ER was at the time.
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Marc: I don't know the weekly numbers they had,
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Marc: but it was insanity.
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Michael: Those numbers.
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Michael: That will never happen again because you
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Michael: have so many, so many uh uh uh streaming
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Michael: and network and ancillary other network,
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Michael: you know whatever uh that you can watch.
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Marc: Back then you had like four networks uh
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Marc: well, did I see somewhere that you and eric
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Marc: lasalle were were it's kind of the same
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Marc: thing with you and richard t jones, but
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Marc: back with er?
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Marc: Didn't you and Eric LaSalle were?
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Marc: It's kind of the same thing with you and
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Marc: Richard T Jones, but back with ER?
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Marc: Didn't you and Eric LaSalle have kind of an
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Marc: auditioning?
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Marc: The same kind of auditioning scenario.
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Michael: Well, literally, I mean for me back then it
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Michael: was, I auditioned against Wendell Pierce.
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Michael: They moved on from Wendell and then I
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Michael: auditioned with Andre Brower.
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Michael: You know they moved on with Andre.
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Michael: They had me come back.
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Michael: I auditioned against Isaiah Washington, you
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Michael: know on, you know.
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Michael: So they kept moving on, but they kept
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Michael: bringing me back in and it's too bad those
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Michael: guys didn't end up having a career after
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Michael: that.
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Marc: I tell you, yeah.
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Michael: And then actually I had called Eric.
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Michael: I called him E, you know, he's my best
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Michael: friend actually.
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Michael: I called him.
884
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Michael: He was doing a show in Portland, oregon,
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Michael: where he was recurring and I said Listen,
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Michael: man, there's this great pilot that they
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Michael: keep bringing me in on.
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Michael: Obviously, I think John Wells and Michael
889
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Michael: Crichton didn't really wanted me, but the
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Michael: network did not.
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Michael: So I called him up and I said you better
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Michael: get your butt down here and audition for
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Michael: this show, you know.
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Michael: And so he made some calls and blah, blah,
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Michael: blah, and he got down and he and then he
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Michael: went in.
897
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Michael: Now they had already been shooting, so they
898
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Michael: were almost two weeks into the pilot before
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Michael: Benton was actually cast.
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Michael: He got it and and and then John Wells said
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Michael: we want you to play this, this recurring
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Michael: character that we have plans for.
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Michael: No-transcript, I'm not playing the same
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Michael: character, but I went to the same show and
905
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Michael: I was a recurring and then I signed with
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Michael: CBS to become a regular, and so when John
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Michael: called and said listen, we want you to come
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Michael: on to your and it had already been a
909
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Michael: monster hit, because it was a monster hit
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Michael: right out the gate.
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Michael: Yeah, first two episodes.
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Michael: It was a monster hit right out the gate.
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Michael: Yeah, first two episodes it was gone, but
914
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Michael: CBS wouldn't let me go.
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Michael: So if you, the first season, my character,
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Michael: al Boulay, was played by Wolfgang Boddison.
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Michael: He had one scene in the very end of the
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Michael: season with Gloria Rubin who had come on as
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Michael: a recurring, and so you know, that was kind
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Michael: of over, you know.
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Michael: And then in the summer break my contract
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Michael: with CBS was over because the show didn't
923
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Michael: get picked up and John Wells calls me and
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Michael: says, hey, listen, we want you to play this
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Michael: character that we wanted you for last
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Michael: season.
927
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Michael: I said, well, you already have Wolfgang and
928
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Michael: he's established.
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Michael: And and they said, no, don't worry about it,
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Michael: don't worry about it, we want you to come
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Michael: in.
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Michael: So so I, I came in in the second season and
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Michael: I started playing, playing Al Boulay in the
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Michael: second season and I started playing, um,
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Michael: playing Al Boulay, and I actually I I had
936
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Michael: one of the I think one of the best
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Michael: storylines on on TV that I've had.
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Michael: Uh, I've had some great ones in in uh,
939
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Michael: since then, obviously that's 30 years ago,
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Michael: but I've, uh, I really really loved that
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Michael: storyline in.
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Marc: Atlanta.
943
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Marc: I mean that, that that was one of the
944
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Marc: all-time greatest ensembles.
945
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Marc: I mean it.
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Marc: Just I don't know.
947
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Marc: I wonder whatever happened to george
948
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Marc: clooney, though I mean he was pretty good,
949
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Marc: yeah, you know.
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Marc: Okay, somewhere now, as far as like right
951
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Marc: now, you're like you said, tulsa king's
952
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Marc: going to be coming up, you're working
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Marc: america, kingstown, you know what other
954
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Marc: stuff you know are you working on or is
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Marc: going to be coming out here soon.
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Michael: Well, I also have a show that I recur on
957
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Michael: that just premiered on Netflix, called Dead
958
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Michael: Boy Detectives, which is very different.
959
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Michael: It's like this kind of supernatural show
960
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Michael: for the younger crowd, which was a lot of
961
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Michael: fun for me, for the younger crowd, which
962
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Michael: was a lot of fun for me where I play a man
963
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Michael: who was a walrus through most of his life
964
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Michael: and now is fighting to become a walrus
965
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Michael: again because he doesn't appreciate being a
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Michael: man.
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Michael: So that was fun.
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Michael: And and I have another uh, something that
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Michael: I'm pretty sure is going to be a big show
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Michael: for Netflix, called the perfect couple Um,
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Michael: but I don't have any details on when that
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Michael: when that's going to be uh, premiered or,
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Michael: uh, even when they're going to start
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Michael: pushing that.
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Michael: But that's got a, an amazing cast led by,
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Michael: uh, led by Nicole Kidman and Liev Schreiber,
977
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Michael: you know.
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Michael: So, um, uh, you know that's, that's what's
979
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Michael: in the coming out, that's already shot.
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Marc: One of my favorite actors, uh guys, shows
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Marc: up on a lot of stuff.
982
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Marc: Reed Diamond mentioned it.
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Marc: What, what did you work on with him, reed?
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Michael: We did a show long ago, uh, I think it was
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Michael: a.
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Michael: It was a, uh, uh, a short, I think, and we
987
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Michael: also were on a couple of shows, I think.
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Michael: But we didn't have much to do, but we were
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Michael: in the same show, but this was I, I you
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Michael: know to, to be honest, I can't remember the
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Michael: name of it, but it was.
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Michael: Uh, there used to be a small company called
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Michael: chanticleer and they did these really
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Michael: interesting long form shorts.
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Michael: You know they were still considered shorts,
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Michael: uh, but where they played, that was the
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Michael: whole.
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Michael: You know this was before you, this was long
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Michael: before all the venues that we have now, and
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Michael: so they kind of they kind of played in
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Michael: festivals and stuff like that.
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Michael: And that's where I first met Reed and you
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Michael: know Reed is a little younger than I am,
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Michael: but and just periodically throughout, here
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Michael: and there, we'd see each other and you know
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Michael: what just a fantastic guy like really good
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Michael: guy, just nicest guy.
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Marc: Chatted with him, oh God, a year and a half
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Importance of Health and Pizza
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Marc: ago or so.
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Marc: But one of the things is both of y'all,
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Marc: both you and Reed, make me realize I need
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Marc: to get to the gym and work out more.
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Marc: Both of y'all are in ridiculous, ridiculous
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Marc: shame, making me look bad here.
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Marc: Um, but the because I noticed on your
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Marc: instagram it says you put gym rat on.
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Marc: There is one of the things.
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Marc: So, yeah, you know, I I got it, I got to
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Marc: get back in.
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Marc: I, you know, cholesterol level went up a
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Marc: little bit.
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Marc: I'm like, oh god, I don't want to be that
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Marc: guy.
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Michael: I gotta get in the gym, I gotta work out
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Michael: what really is important to me, I think, uh
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Michael: is, is you, you, you know, I'm in my 60s
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Michael: now, and so you just you think about.
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Michael: Obviously, you live for today, but you know
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Michael: tomorrow is going to be today, tomorrow,
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Michael: you know, and so on and so on.
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Michael: So when I'm 70, if I'm fortunate enough to
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Michael: make it, and then beyond and 80, I want to
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Michael: be, you know, I want to be as active and
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Michael: functional, uh, as I can be, you know.
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Michael: So that whenever you know we could, we
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Michael: could live for 20 years, but we could be,
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Michael: you know, have a bad back or walk on a cane
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Michael: or what, and I'd rather spend as much time
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Michael: as I as I have, as functional as I can be,
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Michael: and so that's why it's always been
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Michael: important to me.
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Michael: But I think now I'm working out in a
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Michael: different way.
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Michael: Especially, I have terrible risk problems
Speaker:1045
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Michael: and that prevents me from doing a lot of
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Michael: things.
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Michael: But there's still a lot of things that I
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Michael: can do and, you know, becoming more and
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Michael: more aware of what I put in my body.
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Marc: That's something.
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Marc: The other day after getting my blood work
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Marc: back, it's like cholesterol levels, I think
Speaker:1053
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Marc: it's genetic, it's a little bit.
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Marc: So I'm sitting there, going.
Speaker:1055
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Marc: So it's like.
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Marc: You know, I told my daughter last night I
Speaker:1057
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Marc: was like we're going to go to the grocery.
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Marc: We like we're gonna go to the grocery,
Speaker:1059
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Marc: we're gonna go there.
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Marc: She's like no, I'm gonna stay here.
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Marc: It's like so I'm going to the grocery, come
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Marc: back.
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Marc: She's like where all these vegetables come
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Marc: from.
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Marc: It's like should have come to the grocery.
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Marc: You want to vote?
Speaker:1067
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Marc: Come with me.
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Marc: You know, as we wrap up here, I have
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Marc: something I call my seven questions, kind
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Marc: of a little extra.
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Marc: Get to know you.
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Marc: Uh, some a little fun.
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Marc: And I I mentioned food.
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Marc: Food always comes up.
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Marc: So I got to have that first question of
Speaker:1076
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Marc: what is your favorite comfort food, that
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Marc: thing that you know it's just comfort food.
Speaker:1078
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Marc: Something makes you happy.
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Michael: You know what I love.
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Michael: A comfort food, I would say, is pizza.
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Marc: You know pizza and fries and I love pizza
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Marc: and fries at the same time.
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Marc: We're independent of one another at the
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Marc: same time I can eat individually but at the
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Marc: same time uh well, I gotta say this for the
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Marc: sake of the you know this people all over
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Marc: here this show and different pizza opinions,
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Marc: uh, what is your?
Speaker:1089
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Marc: You've lived in new york.
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Marc: You've lived in LA.
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Marc: What kind of pizza do you feel?
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Michael: is righteous.
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Michael: Thin crust is pizza.
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Michael: Yeah yeah, the thick crust in Chicago and
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Michael: other places.
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Michael: I mean it's not bad, but it's not pizza.
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Marc: It's a different thing.
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Marc: Yeah, it's a different animal.
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Marc: Yeah, we have a little on the island where
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Marc: I live here.
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Marc: We got a little pizza place called Da Pizza
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Marc: Joint and it's just that old.
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Marc: Got a little pizza place called the Pizza
Speaker:1104
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Marc: Joint and it's just that old school
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Marc: neighborhood pizza place.
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Marc: You go into the smell and the way I assess
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Marc: a good pizza joint is if they still have
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Marc: anchovies on the menu as an ingredient.
Speaker:1109
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Marc: Even if you don't like anchovies, you know
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Marc: they're still real deal, right.
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Marc: Next question If you were to sit down and
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Marc: have a talk story for a few hours three
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Marc: people, living or not who would you like to
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Marc: sit down with at a table and have some
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Marc: coffee and just talk story for a few hours?
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Michael: Three, uh, three people, wow, three people
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Michael: Um, ooh, that's a good question.
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Michael: Wow, um, I guess, wow, that's really a good
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Michael: question.
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Michael: Um, well, living right now, I it would be,
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Michael: you know, my favorite actress, my favorite
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Michael: actor period uh would be Meryl Streep.
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Michael: Oh, yeah, yeah, I would love to if I could
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Michael: sit down and talk to her and, just, you
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Michael: know, run through her brain, um, about
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Michael: things uh, particularly acting, but you
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Michael: know anything, because I'm such a fan of
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Michael: hers.
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Marc: She's the ultimate chameleon.
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Marc: I just watched the other day just don't
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Marc: look up that Netflix thing with Jonah Hill.
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Marc: I have no idea really who she is, even if
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Marc: she's.
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Marc: So.
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Marc: I heard once she actually has somebody come
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Marc: over to her house when she's considering a
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Marc: role to do makeup and wardrobe and just
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Marc: kind of see how she feels and I mean she's
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Marc: really got a thing going on.
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Admiration for Frederick Douglass
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Michael: But yeah, she would be amazing to sit down
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Michael: with she would be amazing, I guess the next
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Michael: I would like to speak to, I would like to
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Michael: have a sit down with Frederick Douglass.
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Michael: His take on life and positivity, and you
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Michael: know, particularly you know from a man who,
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Michael: who you know, went through what he went
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Michael: through and the changes in his life, you
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Michael: know, that is just reMarcable to me, and so
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Michael: I would love to have a sit down,
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Michael: particularly since he's not.
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Michael: He has no idea what kind of how things have
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Michael: worked out and what era that we're in, but
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Michael: his quotes and all those his thoughts still
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Michael: hold up.
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Marc: you know a lot of common sense.
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Michael: If you think about people that complain
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Michael: about life today and about what you know,
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Michael: what we go through and of course everything
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Michael: is everything is you know you have to live
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Michael: in the time that you're in.
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Michael: But for a guy to have gone through what he
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Michael: went through at the time that he went
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Michael: through and still have the cojones and the
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Michael: the go-gettiveness you know that that I
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Michael: just that to me is is reMarcable yeah, he
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Michael: was on.
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Marc: He was kind of like that vibe he's just
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Marc: unbendable.
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Michael: You know he's that word yeah, you know he,
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Michael: he's he, you know he's unstoppable.
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Michael: You know he and and I love that and that so
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Michael: that would be somebody I would really uh to
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Michael: talk to.
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Michael: You know a third person, my goodness, you
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Michael: know, you know what, honestly, it would
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Michael: have to be one of my grandfathers, because,
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Michael: yeah, same here, same here.
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Michael: I've never, I never met them, you know what
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Michael: I mean.
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Michael: So I don't, I don't, I've never seen them,
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Michael: I've never been in their presence.
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Michael: So that would be for me, that would open up
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Michael: a lot, of, a lot of information for me, I
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Michael: think, oh, yeah.
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Marc: And these that if you get older, you always
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Marc: like the other day I just had to split one
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Marc: tenth of one second.
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Marc: Well, thank gosh, I would love to call my
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Marc: grandfather, discuss parenting, business
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Marc: life.
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Marc: What do you think about this upcoming
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Marc: election?
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Marc: You start realizing when you're younger.
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Marc: You just don't know all the questions to
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Marc: ask.
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Marc: And if you haven't met your grandfather,
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Marc: you want to make that connection to your
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Marc: history.
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Marc: And yeah, my grandfather is always one of
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Marc: my three.
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Marc: Now the next question who was your first
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Marc: celebrity crush when you were young?
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Michael: My first celebrity crush would probably be
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Michael: Pam Greer.
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Michael: I mean in the 70s, you know, blaxploitation
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Michael: films for me were they really opened up my
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Michael: eyes and and and I'm still a huge fan of
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Michael: them and obviously, you know, we can, you
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Michael: know, put them in there in a given period,
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Michael: but I thought there was some that were
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Michael: fantastic, you know, and and, though I
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Michael: didn't have a lot to do with her, uh, in
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Michael: terms, in terms of crushes, just not just
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Michael: physically but yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Michael: Yeah, uh, so it would be.
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Michael: That would be my first.
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Marc: I think Very good, very good Now.
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Marc: Last few questions here.
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Marc: Now, if you're going to be forced, not
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Marc: forced, if you were had the opportunity to,
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Marc: live on an island for a year no internet,
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Marc: you can't stream, watch anything, get
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Marc: Spotify.
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Michael: You can bring one album and you can bring
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Michael: one DVD, one movie, for a year.
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Michael: It's like a wonderful resort, it's still
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Michael: pleasant to be there.
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Michael: But what album and what movie would you
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Michael: bring with you?
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Michael: Wow, oh man, that's a hard question.
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Michael: It would definitely be R&B, but older, like
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Michael: maybe, you know, moving towards the pre-R&B,
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Michael: I guess the 70s funk.
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Michael: I don't know, I don't know.
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Michael: I don't know if it would be James Brown or
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Michael: Rick James.
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Michael: I couldn't narrow it down, I really
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Michael: couldn't, but it would be probably from the
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Michael: 70s.
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Marc: Now if you were to define a perfect?
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Marc: Next question perfect day time.
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Marc: You get up to the time you go, put your
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Marc: head on the pillow.
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Marc: What are the component parts of a perfect
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Marc: day for you?
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Marc: I know a workout's got to be in there
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Marc: somewhere.
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Michael: Uh, whatever that day is, it would include
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Michael: my wife, no question.
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Michael: Um, just maybe hanging out with her.
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Michael: Uh, you know, I don't know doing one one.
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Michael: One time, on one of our anniversaries, we
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Michael: went to Hawaii and we which is something
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Michael: we've never done and haven't done since but
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Michael: we went surfing, oh yeah, yeah, and which
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Michael: was which I didn't want to do Really.
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Michael: I had no desire, but I was like I'm going
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Michael: to do whatever you want to do.
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Michael: To be honest, I had no desire, but I was
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Michael: like I'm gonna do whatever you want to do
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Michael: and I got.
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Marc: Did you get that stoke that they talk about
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Marc: when you first stand up?
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Marc: Or was it like, oh, wait a minute, this is,
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Marc: this is something kind of cool oh, dude, it
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Marc: was.
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Michael: It was a great day and, to be honest, my
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Michael: wife is a former dancer, so she stayed up a
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Michael: lot more than I.
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Michael: She's got balance.
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Michael: Yeah, yeah, right, but we'd actually have
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Michael: on video, uh, a time when we both stood up
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Michael: and we both rode the wave in for probably
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Michael: what was the longest time that we were each
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Michael: able to stay up and we have video, and so
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Michael: it was it's, it's awesome, it's uh, and it
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Michael: was one of the it.
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Michael: You know, we were able to have a nice
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Michael: dinner and just hang out on the beach and
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Michael: talk, and, you know, hang out, and so that,
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Michael: whatever it would be, it would include my
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Michael: wife.
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Marc: Just kind of living in the moment with her.
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Marc: Yeah, yeah.
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Michael: I could do.
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Michael: I could do.
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Michael: Yeah, it doesn't.
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Michael: There haven't been too many disappointing
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Michael: days in the in the 24 years that, uh, we've
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Michael: been together.
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Marc: So that's, that's awesome, man.
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Marc: I like that.
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Marc: I like that.
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Marc: Um, now last couple of questions.
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Marc: If you weren't doing this, I have my
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Marc: suspicion, I have my suspicions of what it
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Marc: would be.
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Marc: But if you weren't able to do this, what
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Marc: for the?
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Marc: For a living, what would you find joy doing
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Marc: for a vocation, I mean?
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Michael: that is a, that is a very I I have no idea,
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Michael: but I mean, if, if I could, uh, could I
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Michael: teach it?
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Michael: Because if I could, if I couldn't be,
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Michael: that's what I was thinking, I was thinking
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Michael: education, you know, with your mother.
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Michael: I felt like that there's a through line
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Michael: there I could, if I couldn't be doing it in
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Michael: terms of actually being an actor, if I
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Michael: could teach it, um, yeah, that would.
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Michael: That's something that comes to mind,
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Michael: because I don't know.
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Michael: You know, I used to when I was, when I was
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Michael: younger, before I started, before I even
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Michael: went to college, and actually during I used
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Michael: to work for my uncle who had pipeline
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Michael: construction, you know, rolling out the
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Michael: copper, connecting the, connecting the
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Michael: water main from from the main to whatever
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Michael: new uh building or or you know whatever was
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Michael: being built.
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Michael: And I gotta tell you, of course, I was, I
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Michael: was young, I was, you know, I even did it
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Michael: illegally because I was too young and so,
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Michael: but that that's something that I did, a lot
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Michael: that I would never want to do again.
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Michael: Hey, a big part of life do again.
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Marc: Hey, a big part of life, like I tell my
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Marc: kids, a big part of college, is learning
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Marc: what you don't want to do as much as it is
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Marc: what you do want to do.
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Marc: But, as a side note, as far as, like,
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Marc: another vocation, one role, I think I'm
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Marc: like if you show up in it, I think it would
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Marc: be perfect is in some film that requires a
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Marc: wise but tough NFL coach, film that
Speaker:1338
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Marc: requires a, a wise but tough nfl coach.
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Marc: I'm saying I'm how has this not come across
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Marc: your uh uh, a screenplay, come across your
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Marc: desk yet?
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Marc: For that?
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Marc: Because I'm like this guy is meant to play
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Marc: a coach.
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Michael: You know, you, I've played coaches before,
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Michael: um, you know, a boxing coach, uh uh, even
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Michael: basketball, believe it or not, at my little
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Michael: stature.
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Michael: So I have played coaches before and even
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Michael: well, in Lean On Me actually, I was the
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Michael: football coach, but we have no scenes of me
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Michael: coaching football.
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Michael: But I have done films or TV things where I
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Michael: was a coach or a football player.
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Michael: You know, that's the beauty of you know
Speaker:1356
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Michael: what the future holds.
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Michael: I have no idea what kind of call I'm going
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Michael: to get after we hang up, or tomorrow or the
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Michael: next day, you know.
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Marc: I'll put that energy out there, man.
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Marc: Nfl coach, nfl coach.
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Marc: Now the last question I got for you, if you
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Marc: were to jump in that DeLorean a little time
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Marc: traveling, you go back 16-year-old you.
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Marc: You've got a piece of advice to make your
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Marc: path at that moment maybe a little easier,
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Marc: or maybe to set yourself up better for the
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Marc: future.
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Marc: What would that piece of advice be to a
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Marc: 16-year-old you?
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Michael: You know, that's a great question because
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Michael: I'm not sure if it would make my life
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Michael: better or not.
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Michael: I'm not sure if it would make my life
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Michael: better or not, but one of the things that I
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Michael: that I never did in my first, uh, 15, 20,
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Michael: well, pretty much mostly in my career that
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Michael: I never really did was, um, was sell myself,
Speaker:1379
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Michael: you know was, was, was do a lot of
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Michael: publicity and, uh, you know was do a lot of
Speaker:1381
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Michael: publicity and, you know, Marcet myself.
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Michael: It was something I never felt the need or
Speaker:1383
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Michael: desire to do because I always thought it's
Speaker:1384
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Michael: about the work.
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Michael: You know, I just want to be a working actor.
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Michael: I want to, and the reason I would tell
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Michael: myself that is because, actor, I want to,
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Michael: and and the reason I would tell myself that
Speaker:1389
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Michael: is because it, you know, uh, it's so much.
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Michael: You know when it, when it comes to setting
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Michael: yourself up for making money, for having
Speaker:1392
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Michael: choice, uh, in terms of what you do, it's
Speaker:1393
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Michael: such a huge part of it.
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Marc: You know, oh yeah, Like, if you were 20
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Marc: years old old now, you would have to be all
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Marc: over social media and understand.
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Marc: I mean, I've, you know, I spoke with
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Marc: somebody, uh, a while back.
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Marc: They're, like you know, talented, and if
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Marc: you take two 21 year old actresses or
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Marc: female actors, one has millions people
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Marc: following her on instagram and the other
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Marc: one, maybe not as much, but a far superior
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Marc: They're still trying to sell tickets.
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Marc: So who are they going to?
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Marc: It's, it's.
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Marc: It's an interesting paradigm.
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Michael: The older folks are like but there's gotta
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Michael: be a way to do it Like a smart way, like
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Michael: like I I never did it Right, um, and to
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Michael: this day I've only, I've only really um,
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Michael: entertain this.
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Michael: I've only actually done this twice in my
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Michael: life where I hired a PR you know, persona
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Michael: PR actually, which is fantastic, but I
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Michael: don't do it much.
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Michael: And now, you know, being in my early 60s,
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Michael: you just you know what's the smart way of
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Michael: doing it.
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Michael: You know, because I'm not even I wouldn't
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Michael: go tell my 16-year-old self, hey, just do
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Michael: whatever.
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Michael: You know you want to be famous, you want to,
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Michael: because that's not the intention, that's
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Michael: not the intention, you know.
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Michael: Obviously, we know the more known you are,
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Michael: the the more um you are to act, you are to
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Michael: make more money and stuff like that.
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Michael: So, so the the intention is, yes, I would
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Michael: like to make more money, but the truth is,
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Michael: I would just like to have more choice in
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Michael: you, you know, uh, because, because, if it,
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Michael: if it, if it came down to me being famous
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Michael: just to be famous and me being in the
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Michael: situation I'm in now, I'll take the
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Michael: situation I'm in now.
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Marc: And that makes all the sense in the world.
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Marc: And I think you're doing, I think whatever
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Marc: you've done, it's fantastic.
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Marc: Like I said, you're always showing up at my
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Marc: favorite shows.
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Michael: Life is great and I couldn't be happier
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Michael: personally, and you know I'm, I'm, I'm
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Michael: fortunate that I still feel valued in in
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Michael: this business, and you know so I'm, I have
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Michael: nothing to complain about.
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Marc: Well, my friend, I I more than you know.
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Marc: I appreciate you.
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Marc: I know being busy carving out a space to
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Marc: chat is sometimes a challenge, so I
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Marc: appreciate you giving me this time.
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Marc: Nothing but the best of luck to you.
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Marc: I'm really hoping we have a chance to catch
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Marc: up down the line.
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Marc: Absolutely.
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Marc: Thanks for the interview, Marc.
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Marc: Take care, it was a pleasure, my friend.
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Marc: All right, bye, all right, there you go.
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Marc: Mr Michael Beach what, mr Michael Beach?
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Marc: What a great conversation.
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Marc: Really enjoyed it.
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Marc: Like I said at the beginning, michael has
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Marc: been in a number of shows I've enjoyed
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Marc: watching and it was cool to sit down and
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Marc: chat with him, learn a little bit more
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Marc: about the arc of his career, as it were.
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Marc: Now, don't forget, he is on Mare of
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Marc: Kingstown, season 3, coming out Paramount
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Marc: Plus June 2nd.
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Marc: And if you did not catch him in Tulsa King
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Marc: on Paramount+, they are replaying season
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Marc: one on CBS, I believe it starts July 14th.
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Marc: And, of course, the Rookie, our family
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Marc: favorite, so you can catch that on ABC.
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Marc: All right, there you go.
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Marc: That's it for me for this episode.
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Marc: Again, thank you so much for being a part
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Marc: of the show.
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Marc: Being here does mean a lot.
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Michael Beach
Actor
With a career that spans over three decades, Michael Beach has become an established name in the entertainment industry through the diverse, complex, and captivating characters he has brought to life on screen. From drama to comedy, Beach has proven time and time again that he can do it all. This year, he can be seen reprising his role as Kareem, Warden of the main prison in Paramount+’s hit crime thriller series, Mayor of Kingstown, opposite Jeremy Renner. The series follows an important contemporary issue, America’s prison system, focusing on the McLusky family, where the business of incarceration is the only thriving industry. The first two seasons are currently streaming on Paramount+ and season three is slated to premiere on June 2, 2024. Also in 2024, Beach will star as Tragic Mick, a walrus trapped in a human body who runs a magic shop in Netflix’s highly anticipated supernatural series, The Dead Boy Detectives, streaming on Netflix as of April 25, 2024.
Notable credits for Beach include his stand-out role as Mark Mitchell on Paramount+’s smash-hit Tulsa King, opposite Sylvester Stallone and Andrea Savage. The series follows New York Mafia capo Dwight ‘The General’ Manfredi, who was recently released from prison after serving twenty-five years, as he sets up shop in Tulsa. The series was recently renewed for a second season, announced in February 2024. Additional previous credits in television include his starring role as Ingram Rhoades, in Apple TV+’s drama series Truth Be Told, opposite Octavia Spencer, Aaron Paul, Lizzy Caplan, Ron Cephas Jones, Elizabeth Perkins, and Mekhi Phifer. The series aired for three seasons, exploring people’s obsession with true-crime stories and the boom in podcasts dedicated to probing unsolved and disputed cases. In 2020, Beach starred in Ava DuVernay’s series Cherish the Day for OWN: The Oprah Winfrey Network to round out his myriad of TV credits, including NBC’s ER, NBC’s Chicago P.D., Netflix’s Dahmer Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story, CBS’ S.W.A.T and ABC’s The Rookie.
In film, Beach is widely recognized for his starring role as Frank Hunt opposite Regina King, Stephan James, Colman Domingo, Kiki Layne, and Diego Luna in Annapurna’s Golden Globe-nominated feature film If Beale Street Could Talk, directed by Academy Award winner Barry Jenkins. With over eight major nominations in the 2019 awards season, the film won Movie of the Year at the 2019 AFI Awards and Best Feature at the 2019 Film Independent Spirit Awards. In addition to If Beale Street Could Talk, Beach appeared as high-sea hijacker Manta/Jesse Kane in Warner Bros. and DC Comics’ international smash hit feature film Aquaman, which grossed over a billion dollars worldwide since its opening in December 2018. Furthering his list of notable starring roles, Beach shined as Harold Thewlis in Southpaw Entertainment’s Inheritance, opposite Lily Collins, Simon Pegg, and Chace Crawford. He also starred in the Warner Bros. and New Line action-comedy film Superintelligence, opposite Melissa McCarthy, which debuted on Max (formally HBO Max) in 2020.
Born and raised in the rough inner city of Roxbury, Boston, Beach excelled in athletics and never had aspirations to become an actor. After performing in a handful of high school plays, he was accepted into the prestigious Juilliard School of Drama in New York City. Beach began his professional career in acting upon graduation, and he has been working ever since, building upon his commitment to his craft, professionalism, and innate talent. Beach has worked with hundreds of acclaimed actors, producers, and directors over the years, including Morgan Freeman, Kevin Bacon, Quentin Tarantino, and John Travolta, to name a few. When he isn’t on set, you can find Beach cruising down California’s coastline on one of his motorcycles, working out at the gym, and spending time with his family.