Welcome to The Story & Craft Podcast!
March 9, 2024

Anja Savcic | Sarajevo + Vancity = Funny

Anja Savcic | Sarajevo + Vancity = Funny

On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with talented actor, Anja Savcic.  She can currently be seen in the new Prime Video movie, "Ricky Stanicky." Listen in as Anya opens up about her experiences on set with John Cena, Zac Efron, Andrew Santino and Jermaine Fowler, as well as Anja’s roots in Vancouver, Canada and Sarajevo. 

We also peek behind the curtain of her experience working on multiple projects with writer, director and comedy legend, Peter Farrelly.  Anja also discusses her experience working on the Netflix show, "Loudermilk", along with comedic and independent film icon, Ron Livingston.  We also touch on the charm and vibe of working with a cast of American actors while shooting “Ricky Stanicky” in Melbourne, Australia.

Finally, we explore Anja’s personal passions and ponder life's simpler pleasures…from dream coffee dates with intellectual icons, to the rejuvenating power of yoga…as well as the NASA discoveries, the space program and our collective appreciation of sci-fi.  Anja Savcic is not only a great comedic storyteller, but she has a unique story of her own…one that we explore on this episode of Story and Craft.

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

0:03:34 - Home in Vancouver (49 Seconds)

0:11:03 - Experiences working on Netflix’s “Loudermilk”

0:18:17 - Filming “Ricky Stanicky” in Melbourne, Australia

0:28:21 - Reflections on Personal Growth and Influence

0:29:40 - Creative Pursuits and Travel Adventures

0:34:39 - Discovering Westerns Through Good Storytelling (28 Seconds)

0:41:21 - Admiration for Alan Watts

0:51:45 - Radio, Yoga, and Dog Talk

0:52:18 - Radio Personalities

01:02:33 - Sci-Fi Nerd Chat

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Transcript

Anja:

Did you see that NASA discovered another

 

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Anja: planet that's like seven times bigger than

 

 

 

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Anja: Earth Basically?

 

 

 

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Anja: What is that about?

 

 

 

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Anja: That's insane.

 

 

 

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Anja: How are we not all talking about that?

 

 

 

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Anja: Screw Mars.

 

 

 

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Anja: They're like, let's go there.

 

 

 

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Announcer: What are we doing?

 

 

 

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

 

 

 

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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.

 

 

 

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Marc: All right, here we go.

 

 

 

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Marc: Another episode of Story and Craft.

 

 

 

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Marc: Glad to have you back.

 

 

 

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Marc: I'm Marc Preston.

 

 

 

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Marc: If this is your first time, welcome.

 

 

 

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Marc: Glad to have you here.

 

 

 

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Marc: And, of course, if you've been a long time

 

 

 

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Marc: listener, you know, took a little hiatus a

 

 

 

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Marc: few weeks off, did the big move now

 

 

 

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Marc: residing home and studio right at the beach

 

 

 

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Marc: at South Padre Island, texas.

 

 

 

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Marc: You know, trying to do that Jimmy Buffett

 

 

 

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Marc: lifestyle Been a goal of mine.

 

 

 

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Marc: I guess we're doing it now.

 

 

 

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Marc: My youngest daughter, emma, is here with me.

 

 

 

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Marc: She's doing her gap year and working as a

 

 

 

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Marc: bartender.

 

 

 

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Marc: 18 years old, working at a beach bar during

 

 

 

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Marc: spring break, which is going on right now,

 

 

 

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Marc: reminds me I'm not a kid anymore.

 

 

 

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Marc: It is kind of cool to watch.

 

 

 

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Marc: So that's what I'm up to this weekend.

 

 

 

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Marc: But enough about what I got going on.

 

 

 

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Marc: We are back.

 

 

 

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Marc: Episodes galore about to roll out and today

 

 

 

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Marc: we are speaking with the very lovely, the

 

 

 

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Marc: very talented Anya Savchich.

 

 

 

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Marc: She is so incredibly talented, very fun to

 

 

 

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Marc: talk to as well.

 

 

 

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Marc: Louder Milk you might know her from the

 

 

 

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Marc: Netflix series, along with Ron Livingston

 

 

 

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Marc: their roommates.

 

 

 

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Marc: She was also on the ABC show Big Sky.

 

 

 

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Marc: New movie she's in right now is called

 

 

 

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Marc: Ricky Stanicky.

 

 

 

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Marc: She's in there along with Andrew Santino,

 

 

 

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Marc: john Cena, zac Efron, germain Fowler Cool

 

 

 

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Marc: dude Talked to him just not very long ago.

 

 

 

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Marc: It's a great movie, prime video, funny,

 

 

 

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Marc: funny stuff.

 

 

 

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Marc: It's out right now.

 

 

 

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Marc: You can check it out.

 

 

 

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Marc: And, of course, I want to remind you

 

 

 

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Marc: everything story and craft you could

 

 

 

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Marc: possibly want to know.

 

 

 

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Marc: Just go to storyandcraftpodcom.

 

 

 

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Marc: Okay, hey, and, by the way, a little

 

 

 

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Marc: request, if you would whether you're

 

 

 

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Marc: other platforms out there YouTube as well

 

 

 

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Marc: make sure to like, follow heck, leave a

 

 

 

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Marc: review.

 

 

 

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Marc: Just really jazzed to have you here and, of

 

 

 

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Marc: course, just want you to get notified every

 

 

 

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Marc: time we have a new episode coming out.

 

 

 

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Marc: Great episodes coming up.

 

 

 

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Marc: I think you'll have a lot of fun checking

 

 

 

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Marc: them out, but let's get after it.

 

 

 

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Marc: Let's jump in and have a nice conversation.

 

 

 

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Marc: Really enjoyed it.

 

 

 

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Marc: Today is Anya Savchich Day, right here on

 

 

 

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Marc: Story and Craft.

 

 

 

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Marc: How are you doing this afternoon?

 

 

 

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Marc: Anything good going on?

 

 

 

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Anja: I'm doing great Not much Preparing for the

 

 

 

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Anja: Ricky Stanicky premiere, which I'm really

 

 

 

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Anja: excited about, so just figuring out looks

 

 

 

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Anja: for that.

 

 

 

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Marc: Oh, that's right.

 

 

 

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Marc: That's right Because you got to do the red

 

 

 

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Marc: You got to make sure you got you.

 

 

 

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Anja: That's right, yeah, it's always fun, but

 

 

 

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Anja: it's always a little stressful too.

 

 

 

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Marc: Well, is this something you decide yourself?

 

 

 

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Marc: Because if I was doing this, it'd be like I

 

 

 

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Marc: needs help, you know.

 

 

 

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Anja: Totally.

 

 

 

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Anja: I mean you can hire someone, but it's still

 

 

 

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Anja: up to you.

 

 

 

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Anja: So there's always that little bit of

 

 

 

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Anja: pressure.

 

 

 

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Anja: But it's fun, I enjoy it.

 

 

 

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Marc: Now, when is the premiere going to be?

 

 

 

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Anja: Our premiere is March 5th.

 

 

 

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Marc: Okay, it's my oldest daughter's birthday.

 

 

 

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Marc: She turns 21,.

 

 

 

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Marc: So I'm going to have a 21-year-old.

 

 

 

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Marc: So still getting my head around that idea.

 

 

 

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Marc: I know, it's weird.

 

 

 

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Anja: Congratulations, that's fun.

 

 

 

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Anja: Yeah, it's so funny.

 

 

 

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Marc: It's the youngest one is the one who's

 

 

 

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Marc: excited to turn 21 because I can drink,

 

 

 

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Marc: yeah, yeah.

 

 

 

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Marc: Now?

 

 

 

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Marc: Do you live in Los Angeles right now?

 

 

 

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Anja: Right now I'm actually in Vancouver BC in

 

 

 

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Anja: Canada.

 

 

 

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Marc: Okay, okay, can you still call Canada home?

 

 

 

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Anja: I do, yeah, I do.

 

 

 

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Anja: I mean my family's here.

 

 

 

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Anja: I grew up here, my friends, so it's

 

 

 

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Anja: definitely my home.

 

 

 

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Marc: But this last year I just kind of checked

 

 

 

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Marc: you've been like really busy.

 

 

 

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Marc: Do you have a sense yourself that you've

 

 

 

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Marc: been running a lot, or has it actually been

 

 

 

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Marc: pretty easily managed?

 

 

 

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Anja: Well, I think, you know, sometimes we film

 

 

 

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Anja: projects and then they come out so much

 

 

 

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Anja: later.

 

 

 

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Anja: So even when I think of Ricky Stanicky

 

 

 

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Anja: coming out, that was a year ago that we

 

 

 

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Anja: filmed this movie.

 

 

 

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Anja: So it feels like a year ago I was really

 

 

 

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Anja: busy, and of course I've been busy since,

 

 

 

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Anja: but it's always waiting for the projects to

 

 

 

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Anja: come out.

 

 

 

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Anja: That's always the most exciting part, I

 

 

 

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Anja: think.

 

 

 

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Anja: So now feels like an exciting time, yeah.

 

 

 

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Marc: other day and I said definitely don't have

 

 

 

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Marc: But I always thought it was easy.

 

 

 

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Marc: You go in.

 

 

 

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Marc: If you're an actor, you go, do your thing

 

 

 

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Marc: and leave.

 

 

 

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Marc: But being a director though, that's a,

 

 

 

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Marc: you're married to a project for like a year

 

 

 

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Marc: and the actor folk got it easy.

 

 

 

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Anja: Totally.

 

 

 

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Anja: Yeah.

 

 

 

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Anja: I mean I've talked to a lot of actor

 

 

 

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Anja: directing and when I worked on Ladder Milk

 

 

 

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Anja: with Ron Livingston I was like, would you

 

 

 

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Anja: Is that something you're interested in?

 

 

 

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Anja: And he said, oh God, no, like I just want

 

 

 

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Anja: have them figure out the rest.

 

 

 

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Anja: And I thought, yeah, I mean, it's true,

 

 

 

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Anja: when you're acting you have that ability

 

 

 

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Anja: just to jump in and then jump right out.

 

 

 

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Marc: Yeah, exactly.

 

 

 

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Marc: By the way, I do have to apologize.

 

 

 

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Marc: We literally just moved in not too long ago,

 

 

 

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Marc: unpacked in our new digs.

 

 

 

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Anja: So no worries, where did you move?

 

 

 

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Marc: texas, which is on the very tip of the

 

 

 

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Marc: South Texas coast.

 

 

 

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Marc: They got one going up here soon so really.

 

 

 

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Marc: But yeah, everybody goes down.

 

 

 

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Anja: That is so cool.

 

 

 

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Anja: I would love to go up to space.

 

 

 

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Anja: It'd be terrifying, but it would be really

 

 

 

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Marc: Yeah, there are days when I just like get

 

 

 

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Marc: But I was curious as far as the origin

 

 

 

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Marc: there, when did you make your way down here?

 

 

 

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Marc: Well, actually, let me kind of even rewind

 

 

 

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Marc: back further.

 

 

 

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Marc: Was this acting thing?

 

 

 

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Marc: Was it always part of your DNA, or always

 

 

 

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Anja: Yeah, I'll start further back.

 

 

 

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Anja: So I was born in Bosnia, which was

 

 

 

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Anja: to Canada when I was around three.

 

 

 

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Anja: So we lived in Calgary, which is in Alberta,

 

 

 

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Anja: kind of more like a cowboy type of province.

 

 

 

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Marc: Familiar with it?

 

 

 

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Marc: Yeah, I'm a native Texan so I'm all

 

 

 

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Marc: familiar with the Calgary folk.

 

 

 

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Marc: Yeah.

 

 

 

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Anja: Exactly Very similar.

 

 

 

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Anja: It's like the Texas of Canada basically.

 

 

 

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Anja: So we lived there until I was about 10.

 

 

 

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Anja: And I remember I took my first drama class,

 

 

 

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Anja: actually in junior high, and I remember the

 

 

 

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Anja: teacher just saying to me huh, you know,

 

 

 

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Anja: you're not, you're not bad at this.

 

 

 

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Anja: And I remember that stuck in my head and I

 

 

 

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Anja: was like, oh okay, that's interesting, okay.

 

 

 

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Anja: And then when I moved to Vancouver with my

 

 

 

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Anja: drama class and I just kept taking it every

 

 

 

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Anja: year and it was the same teacher and the

 

 

 

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Anja: same kids pretty much cycling through, and

 

 

 

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Anja: I just really loved it.

 

 

 

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Anja: I felt like a break from my day and a time

 

 

 

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Anja: to just kind of be silly and relax, and so

 

 

 

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Anja: I just started to love it.

 

 

 

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Anja: And then eventually I kind of ended up

 

 

 

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Anja: getting an agent and I thought, oh, this is

 

 

 

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Anja: And I started auditioning and, you know,

 

 

 

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Anja: slowly building my resume.

 

 

 

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Marc: stuff shooting up there, yeah, but what

 

 

 

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Marc: are you looking more at like theater and

 

 

 

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Anja: Yeah, I mean I definitely was most

 

 

 

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Anja: interested in film and TV because I just

 

 

 

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Anja: loved to watch it.

 

 

 

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Anja: I was a huge fan of Degrassi when I was

 

 

 

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Anja: younger and it was something I was like

 

 

 

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Anja: obsessed with because it was Canadian and

 

 

 

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Anja: it was kind of it was international and I

 

 

 

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Anja: thought how cool that all these kids get to

 

 

 

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Anja: hang out together and pretend they're going

 

 

 

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Anja: to high school with each other, and yeah,

 

 

 

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Anja: that was sort of a big thing for me.

 

 

 

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Anja: And then, yeah, what was the question?

 

 

 

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Anja: I got lost.

 

 

 

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Marc: No, we're just kind of talking about where

 

 

 

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Marc: you came from and the Degrassi thing.

 

 

 

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Marc: That's interesting.

 

 

 

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Marc: Was there anything else that besides?

 

 

 

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Marc: That was like actors, that were you like?

 

 

 

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Marc: Oh my god, they just kind of lit your fire.

 

 

 

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Anja: Well, I loved all the teen stuff when I was

 

 

 

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Anja: in high school, obviously because I was a

 

 

 

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Anja: teen, so like the OC or the 90210 spin-off,

 

 

 

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Anja: like that stuff had me hooked.

 

 

 

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Anja: I was just like this is the drama that I

 

 

 

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Anja: Not to mention, everyone in those shows is

 

 

 

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Anja: like 30 playing 17.

 

 

 

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Anja: So I'm like where are all these men in my

 

 

 

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Marc: I was just pointing that out to my daughter

 

 

 

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Marc: We were watching something.

 

 

 

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Marc: Don't tell mom the babysitter's dead.

 

 

 

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Marc: That was what it was.

 

 

 

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Marc: We were going back.

 

 

 

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Marc: It was when I came out 91, 92, somewhere

 

 

 

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Marc: around there.

 

 

 

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Marc: And you're looking at like they're

 

 

 

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Marc: Why are they trying to pass them off?

 

 

 

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Marc: But that was kind of the way things were

 

 

 

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Anja: Yeah, it's amazing, Totally, totally, and I

 

 

 

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Anja: kind of get it.

 

 

 

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Anja: I mean, it's like appealing to younger

 

 

 

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Anja: I think to look at older people Like we're

 

 

 

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Anja: always looking up to the older kids, so it

 

 

 

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Anja: makes sense.

 

 

 

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Anja: I can see where it gains more viewers.

 

 

 

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Anja: But it's definitely confusing when you're

 

 

 

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Anja: watching it at that age, comparing yourself.

 

 

 

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Marc: Well, it's funny.

 

 

 

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Marc: You know you mentioned the Canada thing and

 

 

 

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Marc: into the room.

 

 

 

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Anja: You know, and TV and the VC, oh God, yeah,

 

 

 

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Anja: of course Me too.

 

 

 

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Marc: I remember the 16 millimeter projector, but

 

 

 

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Marc: that's really going back.

 

 

 

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Marc: But all those things seem to be produced in

 

 

 

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Marc: There were a lot of, there was a lot of

 

 

 

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Marc: produced in the neck of the woods, I think

 

 

 

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Marc: Canada, and actor always think comedy, you

 

 

 

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Marc: know, like John Candy and all that Really.

 

 

 

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Anja: Yeah, I always think, you know like Mike

 

 

 

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Anja: Myers or whatever.

 

 

 

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Anja: Sure.

 

 

 

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Anja: Catherine O'Hara, eugene Levy, yes, indeed,

 

 

 

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Anja: yeah, the.

 

 

 

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Marc: there a desire, Because you know you look

 

 

 

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Marc: at louder milk, you know, would you say the

 

 

 

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Marc: wanting to kind of go more of the drama OC

 

 

 

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Marc: route?

 

 

 

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Marc: Was there a desire early on?

 

 

 

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Anja: It's definitely my favorite genre and I

 

 

 

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Anja: think what I love about it the most is that

 

 

 

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Anja: people watch it all the time.

 

 

 

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Anja: Like when people talk to me about louder

 

 

 

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Anja: milk, they're like, oh, I'm watching it for

 

 

 

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Anja: the third time and I just think how cool is

 

 

 

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Anja: that?

 

 

 

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Anja: Yeah, I mean, it's so cool when you, when

 

 

 

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Anja: you watch something funny, you love how it

 

 

 

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Anja: makes you feel so you want to keep watching

 

 

 

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Anja: it, where sometimes you watch things that

 

 

 

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Anja: make you feel really, really gross inside,

 

 

 

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Anja: but they're so good but you're never going

 

 

 

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Anja: to watch them again.

 

 

 

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Anja: You know, like I think of Requiem for a

 

 

 

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Marc: Yeah, that's kind of a heavy one.

 

 

 

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Anja: I loved that movie, but I'm never watching

 

 

 

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Anja: that movie again.

 

 

 

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Anja: There's no way.

 

 

 

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Anja: That's like a one time deal.

 

 

 

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Marc: Yeah, I hear people talking about that in

 

 

 

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Marc: I'm like, okay, I'm going to give it props,

 

 

 

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Marc: it was a solid movie.

 

 

 

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Marc: I can't watch it again.

 

 

 

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Marc: It's too much, it's a little much.

 

 

 

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Marc: You know, it's a, it's a pretty intense.

 

 

 

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Marc: I guess a better way of putting it.

 

 

 

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Anja: Yeah it's, it's a very dark, but I think

 

 

 

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Anja: that's why comedy really stands out.

 

 

 

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Anja: For me is the.

 

 

 

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Anja: The watchability of it, the rewatchability

 

 

 

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Anja: of it is just so exciting, and I love that.

 

 

 

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Anja: It makes people happy, so I was always

 

 

 

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Anja: drawn to it, definitely.

 

 

 

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Marc: Well, I have to say you, you are the reason

 

 

 

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00:11:37,548 --> 00:11:38,878

 

Marc: why I watch louder milk.

 

 

 

368

 

00:11:39,281 --> 00:11:41,848

 

Marc: I'm a I'm a season and a half in right now,

 

 

 

369

 

00:11:41,909 --> 00:11:45,947

 

Marc: I believe and I remember it because the

 

 

 

370

 

00:11:46,308 --> 00:11:48,191

 

Marc: publicity photos they had had you wearing a

 

 

 

371

 

00:11:48,252 --> 00:11:49,234

 

Marc: CPAP thing.

 

 

 

372

 

00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,328

 

Announcer: I'm like I just got to watch this.

 

 

 

373

 

00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:53,685

 

Marc: I just got to figure out why they chose to

 

 

 

374

 

00:11:53,786 --> 00:11:56,452

 

Marc: use this graphic to promote the show you

 

 

 

375

 

00:11:57,784 --> 00:11:59,890

 

Marc: know and and it, excuse me revealed itself.

 

 

 

376

 

00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,946

 

Marc: Plus also you know I'm going back in time

 

 

 

377

 

00:12:01,986 --> 00:12:03,591

 

Marc: big Ron Livingston fan.

 

 

 

378

 

00:12:03,660 --> 00:12:07,265

 

Marc: I mean that had to be like you had you had

 

 

 

379

 

00:12:07,285 --> 00:12:08,307

 

Marc: to have seen office space.

 

 

 

380

 

00:12:08,547 --> 00:12:09,709

 

Marc: Tell me you've seen office space.

 

 

 

381

 

00:12:10,109 --> 00:12:12,012

 

Anja: Of course, yeah, oh my God, at multiple

 

 

 

382

 

00:12:12,032 --> 00:12:12,433

 

Anja: times.

 

 

 

383

 

00:12:12,493 --> 00:12:13,915

 

Anja: Of course I've tried to get my kids to

 

 

 

384

 

00:12:13,935 --> 00:12:14,155

 

Anja: watch it.

 

 

 

385

 

00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:15,844

 

Marc: I grew up in Dallas and they shot it there

 

 

 

386

 

00:12:16,145 --> 00:12:18,823

 

Marc: and it was so indicative, it was a time

 

 

 

387

 

00:12:18,863 --> 00:12:21,164

 

Marc: capsule it's such a good time capsule of

 

 

 

388

 

00:12:21,205 --> 00:12:24,044

 

Marc: that time People going working in cubicles

 

 

 

389

 

00:12:24,185 --> 00:12:24,806

 

Marc: and it.

 

 

 

390

 

00:12:24,947 --> 00:12:29,540

 

Marc: And even at the opening scene, uh, when

 

 

 

391

 

00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:31,154

 

Marc: he's driving down the highway and you can't

 

 

 

392

 

00:12:31,194 --> 00:12:32,401

 

Marc: get in the right light, I don't know if you

 

 

 

393

 

00:12:32,421 --> 00:12:33,023

 

Marc: how much you remember.

 

 

 

394

 

00:12:33,203 --> 00:12:34,366

 

Anja: Oh yeah, so good.

 

 

 

395

 

00:12:34,547 --> 00:12:35,509

 

Anja: Of course I remember that.

 

 

 

396

 

00:12:35,529 --> 00:12:36,491

 

Marc: That's LBJ.

 

 

 

397

 

00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,584

 

Marc: I used to drive that to get to the radio

 

 

 

398

 

00:12:38,604 --> 00:12:40,850

 

Marc: station where I worked and and I was like

 

 

 

399

 

00:12:41,051 --> 00:12:43,627

 

Marc: God this is such a like perfect time cap.

 

 

 

400

 

00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:46,031

 

Marc: That's a movie that I'll watch once a year

 

 

 

401

 

00:12:46,131 --> 00:12:46,594

 

Marc: probably.

 

 

 

402

 

00:12:46,615 --> 00:12:47,741

 

Marc: You know there are those movies you got to

 

 

 

403

 

00:12:47,761 --> 00:12:48,967

 

Marc: catch them like once a year.

 

 

 

404

 

00:12:49,822 --> 00:12:52,461

 

Marc: But uh, I have to ask though I mean the Ron

 

 

 

405

 

00:12:52,481 --> 00:12:53,885

 

Marc: Livingston thing is he is.

 

 

 

406

 

00:12:54,426 --> 00:12:55,930

 

Marc: How close to character is he?

 

 

 

407

 

00:12:56,010 --> 00:12:57,883

 

Marc: Because I've, throughout the arc of his

 

 

 

408

 

00:12:57,923 --> 00:13:00,420

 

Marc: career he can do different things, don't

 

 

 

409

 

00:13:00,461 --> 00:13:02,207

 

Marc: get me wrong, but Ron Livingston always

 

 

 

410

 

00:13:02,247 --> 00:13:04,243

 

Marc: shows up I would just kind of get as a

 

 

 

411

 

00:13:04,264 --> 00:13:06,389

 

Marc: quasi fan boy of the uh, that, that old

 

 

 

412

 

00:13:06,449 --> 00:13:07,371

 

Marc: movie, I was curious.

 

 

 

413

 

00:13:07,961 --> 00:13:12,251

 

Anja: He's um a lovely, kind, humble person.

 

 

 

414

 

00:13:13,202 --> 00:13:16,210

 

Anja: Um I wouldn't say he is like ladder milk.

 

 

 

415

 

00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,870

 

Anja: Um he definitely keeps his opinions more to

 

 

 

416

 

00:13:20,910 --> 00:13:21,351

 

Anja: himself.

 

 

 

417

 

00:13:22,001 --> 00:13:25,262

 

Anja: Yeah much more than the character Um he's.

 

 

 

418

 

00:13:26,063 --> 00:13:30,151

 

Anja: He's a friendly person who, um, I would say

 

 

 

419

 

00:13:30,211 --> 00:13:34,285

 

Anja: he's very work oriented, so he is more

 

 

 

420

 

00:13:34,345 --> 00:13:37,492

 

Anja: private, um, but still kind and giving.

 

 

 

421

 

00:13:38,201 --> 00:13:40,906

 

Anja: And, um, he's taught me a lot about acting

 

 

 

422

 

00:13:40,966 --> 00:13:43,631

 

Anja: and film and he's technically such an

 

 

 

423

 

00:13:43,692 --> 00:13:45,962

 

Anja: incredible actor also, so he always knows,

 

 

 

424

 

00:13:46,022 --> 00:13:48,207

 

Anja: like, where to turn and where the light is

 

 

 

425

 

00:13:48,327 --> 00:13:51,033

 

Anja: and how to move on camera.

 

 

 

426

 

00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,661

 

Anja: So I learned a lot about that from him, um,

 

 

 

427

 

00:13:54,323 --> 00:13:55,447

 

Anja: and he's just always so present.

 

 

 

428

 

00:13:56,020 --> 00:13:57,805

 

Anja: There's a reason that he's such an, you

 

 

 

429

 

00:13:57,825 --> 00:14:00,872

 

Anja: know, indie icon and I'm just so glad that

 

 

 

430

 

00:14:00,934 --> 00:14:02,932

 

Anja: ladder milk has popped off the way it has,

 

 

 

431

 

00:14:02,994 --> 00:14:04,842

 

Anja: because I think he deserves that lead role,

 

 

 

432

 

00:14:05,423 --> 00:14:06,827

 

Anja: you know, and to really be known for

 

 

 

433

 

00:14:06,867 --> 00:14:07,208

 

Anja: something.

 

 

 

434

 

00:14:07,349 --> 00:14:09,053

 

Marc: Yeah, it's not really what you call a

 

 

 

435

 

00:14:09,073 --> 00:14:09,338

 

Marc: sleeper.

 

 

 

436

 

00:14:09,540 --> 00:14:10,744

 

Marc: I don't know what you call it, but it's not

 

 

 

437

 

00:14:10,824 --> 00:14:12,890

 

Marc: something that was heavily promoted.

 

 

 

438

 

00:14:12,910 --> 00:14:14,184

 

Marc: That I that I can recall.

 

 

 

439

 

00:14:14,661 --> 00:14:16,396

 

Marc: I just kept seeing the little icon pop up

 

 

 

440

 

00:14:16,457 --> 00:14:16,800

 

Marc: on Netflix.

 

 

 

441

 

00:14:16,860 --> 00:14:18,206

 

Marc: I was like I'll check it out.

 

 

 

442

 

00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,247

 

Marc: I was working on my laptop.

 

 

 

443

 

00:14:20,481 --> 00:14:22,275

 

Marc: I'm like I don't know how many up.

 

 

 

444

 

00:14:22,316 --> 00:14:25,126

 

Marc: I think I Did a season in a day or so or

 

 

 

445

 

00:14:25,187 --> 00:14:25,949

 

Marc: like a day and a half.

 

 

 

446

 

00:14:26,069 --> 00:14:28,569

 

Anja: you know something like that no, no, no is

 

 

 

447

 

00:14:28,589 --> 00:14:29,395

 

Anja: a couple days.

 

 

 

448

 

00:14:29,476 --> 00:14:32,106

 

Marc: I went through it, it was but also will

 

 

 

449

 

00:14:32,126 --> 00:14:32,587

 

Marc: sasso.

 

 

 

450

 

00:14:32,607 --> 00:14:34,052

 

Marc: Whenever I see him show up in something,

 

 

 

451

 

00:14:34,821 --> 00:14:36,365

 

Marc: he's always just one of those guys like

 

 

 

452

 

00:14:36,546 --> 00:14:37,488

 

Marc: he's kind of want to watch him.

 

 

 

453

 

00:14:38,130 --> 00:14:40,513

 

Marc: His facial expression, so I can name a

 

 

 

454

 

00:14:40,594 --> 00:14:41,300

 

Marc: handful of things.

 

 

 

455

 

00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:42,244

 

Marc: He was one of those guys.

 

 

 

456

 

00:14:42,324 --> 00:14:43,930

 

Marc: It when he shows up in his scene you know

 

 

 

457

 

00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:45,536

 

Marc: it's gonna get interesting and I.

 

 

 

458

 

00:14:45,757 --> 00:14:47,744

 

Marc: But I got to know when you were first

 

 

 

459

 

00:14:47,804 --> 00:14:49,590

 

Marc: presented ladder milk, did you?

 

 

 

460

 

00:14:50,172 --> 00:14:51,476

 

Marc: Did you kind of like oh yeah, I'm gonna

 

 

 

461

 

00:14:51,496 --> 00:14:51,858

 

Marc: jump in?

 

 

 

462

 

00:14:51,918 --> 00:14:53,684

 

Marc: Or did you kind of Did take you a moment

 

 

 

463

 

00:14:53,724 --> 00:14:56,063

 

Marc: before you kind of Isolated what it was

 

 

 

464

 

00:14:56,123 --> 00:14:57,689

 

Marc: about and if you wanted to take part in it?

 

 

 

465

 

00:14:58,141 --> 00:15:00,707

 

Anja: Um, I mean, I right away wanted to be a

 

 

 

466

 

00:15:00,767 --> 00:15:04,022

 

Anja: part of it, because Ron and will are comedy

 

 

 

467

 

00:15:04,082 --> 00:15:04,503

 

Anja: legends.

 

 

 

468

 

00:15:04,543 --> 00:15:05,988

 

Anja: And then you have Peter Fairley, who's

 

 

 

469

 

00:15:06,049 --> 00:15:09,667

 

Anja: obviously a you know Hollywood, a list

 

 

 

470

 

00:15:09,907 --> 00:15:11,231

 

Anja: director in my eyes.

 

 

 

471

 

00:15:11,351 --> 00:15:13,858

 

Anja: He's created so many careers, he's created

 

 

 

472

 

00:15:13,918 --> 00:15:16,808

 

Anja: an entire new Subsect of comedy, I would

 

 

 

473

 

00:15:16,948 --> 00:15:17,229

 

Anja: argue.

 

 

 

474

 

00:15:18,201 --> 00:15:19,625

 

Anja: So I knew I wanted to be a part of it.

 

 

 

475

 

00:15:19,685 --> 00:15:21,731

 

Marc: Oh, he's, he's, he's phenomenal, it plus

 

 

 

476

 

00:15:21,811 --> 00:15:21,972

 

Marc: also.

 

 

 

477

 

00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,908

 

Marc: I remember I had a chance to audition for

 

 

 

478

 

00:15:23,948 --> 00:15:27,507

 

Marc: him Twice once once or twice for the movie

 

 

 

479

 

00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:29,371

 

Marc: the green book, and he brought me back in

 

 

 

480

 

00:15:29,412 --> 00:15:30,985

 

Marc: and I was like, oh, you know those

 

 

 

481

 

00:15:31,005 --> 00:15:32,554

 

Marc: callbacks, they feel good because you feel

 

 

 

482

 

00:15:32,574 --> 00:15:33,540

 

Marc: like you've almost booked it.

 

 

 

483

 

00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,966

 

Marc: You know you got a callback of course and

 

 

 

484

 

00:15:36,407 --> 00:15:38,311

 

Marc: he was he's, he was looking and it was the

 

 

 

485

 

00:15:38,391 --> 00:15:40,366

 

Marc: longest audition I think I've ever done is

 

 

 

486

 

00:15:40,386 --> 00:15:44,284

 

Marc: about almost shy 10 minutes, which is and

 

 

 

487

 

00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:46,532

 

Marc: oh, you said, listen, I just don't see for

 

 

 

488

 

00:15:46,552 --> 00:15:46,993

 

Marc: this character.

 

 

 

489

 

00:15:47,013 --> 00:15:48,659

 

Marc: I was like I was gonna say thanks.

 

 

 

490

 

00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:50,446

 

Marc: So much, just a chance to audition for the

 

 

 

491

 

00:15:50,466 --> 00:15:51,902

 

Marc: guy that Directed.

 

 

 

492

 

00:15:51,962 --> 00:15:52,585

 

Marc: You know something about.

 

 

 

493

 

00:15:52,645 --> 00:15:53,528

 

Announcer: Mary come on.

 

 

 

494

 

00:15:53,709 --> 00:15:56,238

 

Marc: You know, but he said but, and he hands me

 

 

 

495

 

00:15:56,259 --> 00:15:56,640

 

Marc: some sides.

 

 

 

496

 

00:15:57,001 --> 00:15:57,943

 

Marc: He's correct, god in the hall.

 

 

 

497

 

00:15:57,963 --> 00:15:59,347

 

Marc: I want you to work on this character.

 

 

 

498

 

00:15:59,367 --> 00:16:01,452

 

Marc: I was like, oh, you see me for another

 

 

 

499

 

00:16:01,472 --> 00:16:01,793

 

Marc: character.

 

 

 

500

 

00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,225

 

Marc: I'm saying this internally, you know.

 

 

 

501

 

00:16:03,987 --> 00:16:04,429

 

Marc: And then the.

 

 

 

502

 

00:16:04,649 --> 00:16:05,964

 

Marc: You know I usually don't get a lot of

 

 

 

503

 

00:16:06,024 --> 00:16:07,482

 

Marc: nerves and auditions, but that's one of the

 

 

 

504

 

00:16:07,522 --> 00:16:09,208

 

Marc: first times I got nerves is like, oh, wait

 

 

 

505

 

00:16:09,228 --> 00:16:09,469

 

Marc: a minute.

 

 

 

506

 

00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:11,846

 

Marc: But they ended up not casting me and won an

 

 

 

507

 

00:16:11,886 --> 00:16:13,650

 

Marc: Academy Award and that's kind of thing if

 

 

 

508

 

00:16:13,690 --> 00:16:14,692

 

Marc: you, if you don't cast me.

 

 

 

509

 

00:16:15,521 --> 00:16:17,246

 

Marc: Last one was Dallas buyers club.

 

 

 

510

 

00:16:17,286 --> 00:16:18,831

 

Marc: I remember I got really close to getting in.

 

 

 

511

 

00:16:20,021 --> 00:16:22,530

 

Marc: So it's sort of like you know don't cast me,

 

 

 

512

 

00:16:22,992 --> 00:16:23,875

 

Marc: bring me in for a callback.

 

 

 

513

 

00:16:23,895 --> 00:16:25,300

 

Marc: Don't cast me, you'll get an Academy Award.

 

 

 

514

 

00:16:25,641 --> 00:16:27,925

 

Anja: Right, oh my god, you should tell everybody

 

 

 

515

 

00:16:28,346 --> 00:16:29,909

 

Anja: but that wasn't really a funny movie.

 

 

 

516

 

00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:32,214

 

Marc: Obviously, there was some comedic notes to

 

 

 

517

 

00:16:32,294 --> 00:16:32,334

 

Marc: it.

 

 

 

518

 

00:16:32,681 --> 00:16:34,248

 

Marc: Yeah but he kind of floats back and forth,

 

 

 

519

 

00:16:35,323 --> 00:16:35,603

 

Marc: did he?

 

 

 

520

 

00:16:35,764 --> 00:16:37,569

 

Marc: Has he directed any episodes of ladder mill?

 

 

 

521

 

00:16:37,889 --> 00:16:38,391

 

Anja: He, he.

 

 

 

522

 

00:16:38,451 --> 00:16:43,161

 

Anja: So he was a co-creator with Bobby Mort, so

 

 

 

523

 

00:16:43,201 --> 00:16:45,407

 

Anja: him and Peter did the series together,

 

 

 

524

 

00:16:45,768 --> 00:16:48,602

 

Anja: wrote a lot of it together, and Peter

 

 

 

525

 

00:16:48,642 --> 00:16:51,169

 

Anja: directed the full first season and then for

 

 

 

526

 

00:16:51,209 --> 00:16:54,127

 

Anja: the second and third Peter and Bobby fairly

 

 

 

527

 

00:16:54,207 --> 00:16:57,392

 

Anja: shared the load, so it was a bit of both of

 

 

 

528

 

00:16:57,432 --> 00:16:57,593

 

Anja: them.

 

 

 

529

 

00:16:58,236 --> 00:16:59,160

 

Marc: That is very cool.

 

 

 

530

 

00:16:59,521 --> 00:17:01,184

 

Anja: Totally, and what's so cool about them as

 

 

 

531

 

00:17:01,244 --> 00:17:03,768

 

Anja: brothers is they're very different but they

 

 

 

532

 

00:17:03,849 --> 00:17:06,574

 

Anja: have the exact same viewpoints on pretty

 

 

 

533

 

00:17:06,594 --> 00:17:07,275

 

Anja: much everything.

 

 

 

534

 

00:17:07,822 --> 00:17:10,355

 

Anja: So it was basically like Peter was there

 

 

 

535

 

00:17:10,456 --> 00:17:12,405

 

Anja: when Bobby was there, so I think that's why

 

 

 

536

 

00:17:12,445 --> 00:17:13,670

 

Anja: the show feels very cohesive.

 

 

 

537

 

00:17:14,441 --> 00:17:14,922

 

Marc: Yeah, it does.

 

 

 

538

 

00:17:15,003 --> 00:17:16,928

 

Marc: It does because you know, working in TV,

 

 

 

539

 

00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:19,282

 

Marc: you have a different director every Episode

 

 

 

540

 

00:17:19,302 --> 00:17:19,904

 

Marc: a lot of times.

 

 

 

541

 

00:17:19,924 --> 00:17:21,930

 

Anja: Yeah, exactly, so that's kind of a gift to

 

 

 

542

 

00:17:21,950 --> 00:17:24,398

 

Anja: have the same guy every, every episode.

 

 

 

543

 

00:17:24,558 --> 00:17:25,180

 

Anja: Yeah, that's nice.

 

 

 

544

 

00:17:25,984 --> 00:17:26,869

 

Marc: What I'm curious about that.

 

 

 

545

 

00:17:26,909 --> 00:17:27,894

 

Marc: That's a great ensemble.

 

 

 

546

 

00:17:27,934 --> 00:17:28,397

 

Marc: It's fun.

 

 

 

547

 

00:17:28,457 --> 00:17:28,960

 

Marc: I enjoy it.

 

 

 

548

 

00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:30,845

 

Marc: I mean I'm glad I'm only a season and a

 

 

 

549

 

00:17:30,885 --> 00:17:32,530

 

Marc: half in because I still got more to enjoy

 

 

 

550

 

00:17:32,590 --> 00:17:33,212

 

Marc: for the first time.

 

 

 

551

 

00:17:33,902 --> 00:17:37,166

 

Marc: But Ricky's Stanicki is that how these are?

 

 

 

552

 

00:17:37,206 --> 00:17:38,308

 

Marc: Stanick Stanicki, right?

 

 

 

553

 

00:17:38,509 --> 00:17:39,271

 

Anja: Ricky Stanicki.

 

 

 

554

 

00:17:39,311 --> 00:17:42,363

 

Marc: Yeah, that's another Real interesting

 

 

 

555

 

00:17:42,443 --> 00:17:42,944

 

Marc: ensemble.

 

 

 

556

 

00:17:43,125 --> 00:17:45,010

 

Marc: How did that project kind of materialize

 

 

 

557

 

00:17:45,090 --> 00:17:45,391

 

Marc: for you?

 

 

 

558

 

00:17:45,712 --> 00:17:48,766

 

Anja: Yeah, well, I know they've been trying to

 

 

 

559

 

00:17:48,786 --> 00:17:51,896

 

Anja: make that movie for like ten years and they

 

 

 

560

 

00:17:51,916 --> 00:17:53,200

 

Anja: had a lot of different people attached.

 

 

 

561

 

00:17:53,541 --> 00:17:55,507

 

Anja: I think Jim Carrey at one point was meant

 

 

 

562

 

00:17:55,527 --> 00:17:58,623

 

Anja: to play Ricky Stanicki and then I guess

 

 

 

563

 

00:17:58,683 --> 00:18:00,508

 

Anja: finally the funding came through and they

 

 

 

564

 

00:18:00,528 --> 00:18:01,651

 

Anja: were able to make it.

 

 

 

565

 

00:18:01,752 --> 00:18:04,603

 

Anja: And yeah, it came through.

 

 

 

566

 

00:18:04,643 --> 00:18:06,869

 

Anja: I mean, I've known Peter for so long now,

 

 

 

567

 

00:18:07,169 --> 00:18:09,885

 

Anja: with working on ladder milk, and I've

 

 

 

568

 

00:18:09,925 --> 00:18:11,538

 

Anja: auditioned for some of his other projects

 

 

 

569

 

00:18:11,598 --> 00:18:14,289

 

Anja: as well, and this one just kind of felt

 

 

 

570

 

00:18:14,309 --> 00:18:16,237

 

Anja: like the right fit and it was also really

 

 

 

571

 

00:18:16,257 --> 00:18:17,120

 

Anja: exciting opportunity.

 

 

 

572

 

00:18:17,382 --> 00:18:19,336

 

Anja: We shot this in Australia, in Melbourne.

 

 

 

573

 

00:18:19,497 --> 00:18:21,164

 

Marc: Oh, really so it was.

 

 

 

574

 

00:18:21,906 --> 00:18:25,944

 

Anja: Yeah, that was a really Cool aspect of the

 

 

 

575

 

00:18:25,984 --> 00:18:26,406

 

Anja: project.

 

 

 

576

 

00:18:26,466 --> 00:18:29,082

 

Anja: I had never been there, and Traveling for

 

 

 

577

 

00:18:29,122 --> 00:18:30,948

 

Anja: work is always fun, especially for a movie

 

 

 

578

 

00:18:30,968 --> 00:18:33,062

 

Anja: where it's a shorter shoot, so it's not

 

 

 

579

 

00:18:33,082 --> 00:18:35,087

 

Anja: like you're there for a whole year or, you

 

 

 

580

 

00:18:35,127 --> 00:18:36,410

 

Anja: know, six months or something.

 

 

 

581

 

00:18:37,132 --> 00:18:40,066

 

Anja: So that really drew me in as well.

 

 

 

582

 

00:18:40,689 --> 00:18:43,090

 

Anja: So, yeah, I really enjoyed it.

 

 

 

583

 

00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:44,277

 

Anja: It was a great ensemble.

 

 

 

584

 

00:18:44,418 --> 00:18:47,025

 

Anja: There is Lots of time to bond.

 

 

 

585

 

00:18:47,446 --> 00:18:50,192

 

Anja: No one could leave because it's so far away

 

 

 

586

 

00:18:50,352 --> 00:18:51,274

 

Anja: from anything.

 

 

 

587

 

00:18:52,062 --> 00:18:54,191

 

Anja: So on the weekends we all got to hang out

 

 

 

588

 

00:18:54,292 --> 00:18:56,321

 

Anja: and, you know, get to know each other, and

 

 

 

589

 

00:18:56,361 --> 00:18:57,926

 

Anja: I think that made it really special.

 

 

 

590

 

00:18:58,006 --> 00:18:59,470

 

Marc: Yeah, my daughter is doing her gap year

 

 

 

591

 

00:18:59,511 --> 00:19:01,649

 

Marc: between she graduated early from high

 

 

 

592

 

00:19:01,690 --> 00:19:03,199

 

Marc: school and she's gonna go to college in the

 

 

 

593

 

00:19:03,239 --> 00:19:03,380

 

Marc: fall.

 

 

 

594

 

00:19:03,580 --> 00:19:05,085

 

Marc: But she's doing her gap year and just kind

 

 

 

595

 

00:19:05,105 --> 00:19:05,686

 

Marc: of hanging out with me.

 

 

 

596

 

00:19:05,747 --> 00:19:07,492

 

Marc: I said, you know, I've always wanted to do

 

 

 

597

 

00:19:09,763 --> 00:19:11,677

 

Marc: Like a kind of be an expat for like a year

 

 

 

598

 

00:19:11,717 --> 00:19:14,367

 

Marc: or two and Melbourne's the destination

 

 

 

599

 

00:19:14,407 --> 00:19:14,949

 

Marc: where I want to go.

 

 

 

600

 

00:19:14,989 --> 00:19:15,511

 

Marc: I just didn't.

 

 

 

601

 

00:19:15,752 --> 00:19:18,180

 

Marc: It was to go down there without having yet

 

 

 

602

 

00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,428

 

Marc: it was just, you know, me being

 

 

 

603

 

00:19:19,488 --> 00:19:20,515

 

Marc: self-employed, it was.

 

 

 

604

 

00:19:20,918 --> 00:19:21,240

 

Marc: It was there.

 

 

 

605

 

00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:22,865

 

Marc: Well, it was just a little bit too much

 

 

 

606

 

00:19:22,945 --> 00:19:24,711

 

Marc: stuff to get put together to make it happen.

 

 

 

607

 

00:19:25,241 --> 00:19:27,189

 

Marc: There's also a cost factor of shipping

 

 

 

608

 

00:19:27,249 --> 00:19:28,434

 

Marc: everything because I've got a recording

 

 

 

609

 

00:19:28,474 --> 00:19:28,795

 

Marc: studio.

 

 

 

610

 

00:19:28,815 --> 00:19:30,020

 

Marc: I've got to get it all down to Australia.

 

 

 

611

 

00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:31,925

 

Marc: Yeah you said I said let's just go next to

 

 

 

612

 

00:19:31,945 --> 00:19:32,245

 

Marc: the beach.

 

 

 

613

 

00:19:32,305 --> 00:19:35,092

 

Marc: But but Melbourne, and that that's kind of

 

 

 

614

 

00:19:35,333 --> 00:19:38,148

 

Marc: a I want to say is it?

 

 

 

615

 

00:19:38,168 --> 00:19:40,218

 

Marc: My rent says kind of artsy, not artsy, but

 

 

 

616

 

00:19:40,258 --> 00:19:43,909

 

Marc: it's sort of it's, it's definitely.

 

 

 

617

 

00:19:44,229 --> 00:19:48,164

 

Marc: I kind of liken it to the arts are part of

 

 

 

618

 

00:19:48,184 --> 00:19:49,768

 

Marc: the ecosystem, is that right?

 

 

 

619

 

00:19:49,908 --> 00:19:50,811

 

Anja: totally it's.

 

 

 

620

 

00:19:50,911 --> 00:19:52,375

 

Anja: It's a very bustling city.

 

 

 

621

 

00:19:52,816 --> 00:19:54,040

 

Anja: People are super social.

 

 

 

622

 

00:19:54,502 --> 00:19:55,811

 

Anja: There's lots of art everywhere.

 

 

 

623

 

00:19:55,931 --> 00:19:57,320

 

Anja: The architecture is amazing.

 

 

 

624

 

00:19:57,481 --> 00:19:59,340

 

Anja: They have like a lot of old and new things,

 

 

 

625

 

00:19:59,601 --> 00:20:01,887

 

Anja: but everything really melds nicely and I

 

 

 

626

 

00:20:01,907 --> 00:20:03,130

 

Anja: think we all fell in love with it.

 

 

 

627

 

00:20:03,170 --> 00:20:05,005

 

Anja: When we were there, everyone had a moment

 

 

 

628

 

00:20:05,025 --> 00:20:06,612

 

Anja: where they were kind of like damn, like I'd

 

 

 

629

 

00:20:06,652 --> 00:20:08,480

 

Anja: love to live here, it's just so far away,

 

 

 

630

 

00:20:09,824 --> 00:20:11,169

 

Anja: so far away from everything.

 

 

 

631

 

00:20:11,309 --> 00:20:14,107

 

Anja: But um, yeah, I don't know, maybe Australia

 

 

 

632

 

00:20:14,167 --> 00:20:15,071

 

Anja: is a little underrated.

 

 

 

633

 

00:20:15,392 --> 00:20:16,736

 

Marc: Maybe Australians like that, so not

 

 

 

634

 

00:20:16,777 --> 00:20:17,720

 

Marc: everybody comes down there.

 

 

 

635

 

00:20:18,723 --> 00:20:19,706

 

Anja: I think they might.

 

 

 

636

 

00:20:20,006 --> 00:20:22,703

 

Anja: Yeah, I mean, the only thing I could Think

 

 

 

637

 

00:20:22,743 --> 00:20:24,311

 

Anja: about when I thought of Australia was all

 

 

 

638

 

00:20:24,331 --> 00:20:26,180

 

Anja: the spiders and snakes and all that stuff.

 

 

 

639

 

00:20:26,301 --> 00:20:29,217

 

Anja: But honestly, being in a city, that's not

 

 

 

640

 

00:20:29,257 --> 00:20:32,825

 

Anja: really as as big of a deal, so I didn't

 

 

 

641

 

00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:34,068

 

Anja: really worry about that I.

 

 

 

642

 

00:20:40,941 --> 00:20:42,672

 

Marc: Forgot that Peter Fairley directed that as

 

 

 

643

 

00:20:42,752 --> 00:20:42,994

 

Marc: well.

 

 

 

644

 

00:20:43,034 --> 00:20:44,322

 

Marc: So you must have been kind of nice, you're

 

 

 

645

 

00:20:44,342 --> 00:20:46,474

 

Marc: like yes, uh, you know we're old friends,

 

 

 

646

 

00:20:46,555 --> 00:20:47,460

 

Marc: you know you had that shorthand.

 

 

 

647

 

00:20:47,882 --> 00:20:50,134

 

Marc: You know, you know that was part of my

 

 

 

648

 

00:20:50,174 --> 00:20:51,581

 

Marc: ignorance on the timeline here, but you

 

 

 

649

 

00:20:51,601 --> 00:20:53,651

 

Marc: were already doing louder milk before they

 

 

 

650

 

00:20:53,691 --> 00:20:54,334

 

Marc: went into production.

 

 

 

651

 

00:20:54,394 --> 00:20:55,540

 

Marc: On Ricky Stenicke, correct?

 

 

 

652

 

00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,302

 

Anja: Totally.

 

 

 

653

 

00:20:56,382 --> 00:20:58,005

 

Anja: We had already wrapped louder milk.

 

 

 

654

 

00:20:58,166 --> 00:21:00,130

 

Anja: Yeah, it had been a couple years since we

 

 

 

655

 

00:21:00,150 --> 00:21:05,044

 

Anja: had finished our last season and, yeah, he

 

 

 

656

 

00:21:05,324 --> 00:21:08,403

 

Anja: called me and I got that part and Got to

 

 

 

657

 

00:21:08,443 --> 00:21:10,009

 

Anja: see him again and it was just.

 

 

 

658

 

00:21:10,672 --> 00:21:12,359

 

Anja: It just felt right away like old times.

 

 

 

659

 

00:21:12,419 --> 00:21:14,304

 

Anja: You know, he is such a friendly guy and

 

 

 

660

 

00:21:14,364 --> 00:21:15,827

 

Anja: he's so easy to get along with and

 

 

 

661

 

00:21:15,867 --> 00:21:18,172

 

Anja: collaborate with and what's so cool is he's

 

 

 

662

 

00:21:18,192 --> 00:21:20,405

 

Anja: also a really Loyal person.

 

 

 

663

 

00:21:20,687 --> 00:21:22,374

 

Anja: If he likes you and he likes working with

 

 

 

664

 

00:21:22,394 --> 00:21:23,580

 

Anja: you, he wants to work with you again.

 

 

 

665

 

00:21:24,323 --> 00:21:26,653

 

Anja: So it was just nice to be back and feel so

 

 

 

666

 

00:21:26,713 --> 00:21:27,235

 

Anja: welcomed.

 

 

 

667

 

00:21:27,336 --> 00:21:30,194

 

Anja: And you know, I came in a week after they'd

 

 

 

668

 

00:21:30,214 --> 00:21:31,683

 

Anja: already started shooting, but everyone

 

 

 

669

 

00:21:31,703 --> 00:21:33,370

 

Anja: already knew who I was because he'd already

 

 

 

670

 

00:21:33,772 --> 00:21:35,499

 

Anja: told them that I was coming and that you

 

 

 

671

 

00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,944

 

Anja: know I was great and all this stuff and I

 

 

 

672

 

00:21:36,964 --> 00:21:38,630

 

Anja: was like, oh, my god, it's so sweet.

 

 

 

673

 

00:21:38,790 --> 00:21:42,007

 

Anja: So, yeah, it was just a lovely shoot and I

 

 

 

674

 

00:21:42,027 --> 00:21:42,749

 

Anja: love working with him.

 

 

 

675

 

00:21:42,841 --> 00:21:44,294

 

Marc: He's a I'm curious how they ended up in

 

 

 

676

 

00:21:44,335 --> 00:21:46,283

 

Marc: Australia, though, was it was without

 

 

 

677

 

00:21:46,323 --> 00:21:47,125

 

Marc: giving anything away.

 

 

 

678

 

00:21:47,185 --> 00:21:49,409

 

Marc: Was Australia part of the story, or it just

 

 

 

679

 

00:21:49,449 --> 00:21:50,832

 

Marc: happened to be that that was a location

 

 

 

680

 

00:21:50,852 --> 00:21:51,494

 

Marc: that worked for?

 

 

 

681

 

00:21:51,901 --> 00:21:53,926

 

Anja: It has absolutely nothing to do with the

 

 

 

682

 

00:21:53,966 --> 00:21:54,367

 

Anja: story.

 

 

 

683

 

00:21:54,768 --> 00:21:57,300

 

Anja: I think it was a tax break situation, I

 

 

 

684

 

00:21:57,321 --> 00:21:58,645

 

Anja: think it was just cheaper to shoot there

 

 

 

685

 

00:21:58,765 --> 00:22:01,861

 

Anja: and I think also people wanted to Be

 

 

 

686

 

00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:05,008

 

Anja: somewhere where it was sunny and and nice

 

 

 

687

 

00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:08,401

 

Anja: and it was summertime in Australia, so you

 

 

 

688

 

00:22:08,421 --> 00:22:10,467

 

Anja: know, we got to enjoy that and well, it was

 

 

 

689

 

00:22:10,527 --> 00:22:12,592

 

Anja: a summer for them, or was it summer?

 

 

 

690

 

00:22:14,322 --> 00:22:15,345

 

Anja: It was summer in Australia.

 

 

 

691

 

00:22:15,525 --> 00:22:17,230

 

Marc: Okay, so it'd be winter for us, that thing

 

 

 

692

 

00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:18,843

 

Marc: always kind of yeah, they talk about

 

 

 

693

 

00:22:18,863 --> 00:22:20,467

 

Marc: Christmas down there being warm.

 

 

 

694

 

00:22:20,948 --> 00:22:22,793

 

Anja: I know I can't imagine.

 

 

 

695

 

00:22:23,661 --> 00:22:25,687

 

Marc: But John Cena he plays Ricky Stanicky

 

 

 

696

 

00:22:25,727 --> 00:22:27,352

 

Marc: correct and that's right.

 

 

 

697

 

00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:29,558

 

Marc: Yes, he does yeah and I was looking at

 

 

 

698

 

00:22:29,578 --> 00:22:30,722

 

Marc: Jermaine Fowler's and this.

 

 

 

699

 

00:22:30,742 --> 00:22:32,066

 

Marc: I had a chance to chat with him just a few

 

 

 

700

 

00:22:32,086 --> 00:22:35,903

 

Marc: weeks ago actually, so Such a cool dude,

 

 

 

701

 

00:22:36,325 --> 00:22:37,007

 

Marc: very cool dude.

 

 

 

702

 

00:22:37,207 --> 00:22:38,110

 

Anja: He's a great guy.

 

 

 

703

 

00:22:38,331 --> 00:22:39,133

 

Anja: Yeah, he's great guy.

 

 

 

704

 

00:22:39,174 --> 00:22:40,076

 

Anja: Super funny too.

 

 

 

705

 

00:22:40,337 --> 00:22:42,203

 

Marc: Just awesome Can we say how long were you

 

 

 

706

 

00:22:42,223 --> 00:22:44,751

 

Marc: down in down in Australia for in total?

 

 

 

707

 

00:22:45,181 --> 00:22:47,208

 

Anja: So I think for me it was about five weeks,

 

 

 

708

 

00:22:49,281 --> 00:22:51,648

 

Anja: yeah, and I really enjoyed it.

 

 

 

709

 

00:22:51,688 --> 00:22:53,433

 

Anja: I loved working with everyone in the cast.

 

 

 

710

 

00:22:54,845 --> 00:22:57,725

 

Anja: In the movie I play Andrew Santino's wife

 

 

 

711

 

00:22:58,408 --> 00:23:01,330

 

Anja: and I'm like heavily pregnant in it and he

 

 

 

712

 

00:23:01,390 --> 00:23:04,582

 

Anja: misses the birth of the baby and that's

 

 

 

713

 

00:23:04,622 --> 00:23:06,629

 

Anja: kind of when they start realizing that they

 

 

 

714

 

00:23:06,669 --> 00:23:08,214

 

Anja: need to bring in Ricky Stanicky so that

 

 

 

715

 

00:23:08,234 --> 00:23:09,919

 

Anja: they can prove that they have this friend

 

 

 

716

 

00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:13,569

 

Anja: and yeah, I mean that was all really fun.

 

 

 

717

 

00:23:13,629 --> 00:23:16,562

 

Anja: Just the unraveling of the story is a you

 

 

 

718

 

00:23:16,602 --> 00:23:16,883

 

Anja: know what.

 

 

 

719

 

00:23:16,943 --> 00:23:19,642

 

Anja: It reminds me a lot of like the more 2000s,

 

 

 

720

 

00:23:20,023 --> 00:23:22,831

 

Anja: older, fairly brother stuff where it's kind

 

 

 

721

 

00:23:22,851 --> 00:23:25,258

 

Anja: of a simple premise and the fun is in the

 

 

 

722

 

00:23:25,298 --> 00:23:25,960

 

Anja: silliness of it.

 

 

 

723

 

00:23:26,481 --> 00:23:28,928

 

Marc: Yeah, the situation just gets progressively

 

 

 

724

 

00:23:28,988 --> 00:23:30,432

 

Marc: more absurd as they go along.

 

 

 

725

 

00:23:30,472 --> 00:23:30,672

 

Marc: Yeah.

 

 

 

726

 

00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,232

 

Anja: Exactly, and I feel like that kind of

 

 

 

727

 

00:23:33,273 --> 00:23:34,380

 

Anja: comedy is missing now.

 

 

 

728

 

00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,302

 

Anja: You know everything.

 

 

 

729

 

00:23:35,432 --> 00:23:37,875

 

Anja: I feel like comedy now is just wrapped into

 

 

 

730

 

00:23:38,005 --> 00:23:39,900

 

Anja: every genre instead of just being

 

 

 

731

 

00:23:40,030 --> 00:23:41,011

 

Anja: standalone, and I like that.

 

 

 

732

 

00:23:41,031 --> 00:23:43,274

 

Anja: This is just a standalone, funny, silly

 

 

 

733

 

00:23:43,334 --> 00:23:43,694

 

Anja: story.

 

 

 

734

 

00:23:43,734 --> 00:23:44,595

 

Anja: You can relax too.

 

 

 

735

 

00:23:44,655 --> 00:23:45,857

 

Marc: You know, thank you for saying that.

 

 

 

736

 

00:23:47,121 --> 00:23:48,644

 

Marc: Yeah, my daughter and I were going through

 

 

 

737

 

00:23:49,145 --> 00:23:50,588

 

Marc: trying to find on the different streamers,

 

 

 

738

 

00:23:50,829 --> 00:23:53,134

 

Marc: trying to find just a comedy like circa

 

 

 

739

 

00:23:53,761 --> 00:23:55,447

 

Marc: late 90s, maybe you know, like a good

 

 

 

740

 

00:23:55,487 --> 00:23:58,185

 

Marc: example is Judd Apatow.

 

 

 

741

 

00:23:58,346 --> 00:24:00,435

 

Marc: Anything he did, it was just you kind of

 

 

 

742

 

00:24:00,475 --> 00:24:01,560

 

Marc: buying the absurdity of it.

 

 

 

743

 

00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,128

 

Marc: It's just kind of fun, like a no matter

 

 

 

744

 

00:24:03,148 --> 00:24:05,139

 

Marc: something like that but there aren't really

 

 

 

745

 

00:24:05,179 --> 00:24:05,280

 

Marc: there.

 

 

 

746

 

00:24:05,380 --> 00:24:07,005

 

Marc: You're right, there seems to be and this is

 

 

 

747

 

00:24:07,045 --> 00:24:08,589

 

Marc: maybe just my opinion just a kind of a

 

 

 

748

 

00:24:08,629 --> 00:24:11,764

 

Marc: shortage of good fun, quasi-goofy comedies

 

 

 

749

 

00:24:11,784 --> 00:24:13,368

 

Marc: that you can kind of disappear for a couple

 

 

 

750

 

00:24:13,428 --> 00:24:13,669

 

Marc: hours.

 

 

 

751

 

00:24:13,729 --> 00:24:15,172

 

Marc: You know, this is kind of my thing.

 

 

 

752

 

00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,025

 

Anja: Absolutely something you can just have on.

 

 

 

753

 

00:24:18,085 --> 00:24:19,949

 

Anja: You can again, you can turn on again and

 

 

 

754

 

00:24:19,989 --> 00:24:22,173

 

Anja: again, and again and just rewatch and laugh

 

 

 

755

 

00:24:22,334 --> 00:24:22,434

 

Anja: at.

 

 

 

756

 

00:24:22,921 --> 00:24:24,544

 

Anja: So I think that'll be this and I really

 

 

 

757

 

00:24:24,584 --> 00:24:26,909

 

Anja: hope it's it does well and people enjoy it

 

 

 

758

 

00:24:26,969 --> 00:24:29,634

 

Anja: because it's yeah, it's silly and fun and,

 

 

 

759

 

00:24:30,948 --> 00:24:31,652

 

Anja: yeah, I love it.

 

 

 

760

 

00:24:32,356 --> 00:24:34,767

 

Marc: I forgot to ask you we do your parents and

 

 

 

761

 

00:24:34,787 --> 00:24:36,815

 

Marc: the arts at all, or they in any kind of

 

 

 

762

 

00:24:36,855 --> 00:24:38,080

 

Marc: performance or anything like that.

 

 

 

763

 

00:24:38,341 --> 00:24:40,909

 

Anja: No, no, my parents were never really into

 

 

 

764

 

00:24:40,929 --> 00:24:41,411

 

Anja: the arts.

 

 

 

765

 

00:24:43,081 --> 00:24:46,510

 

Anja: My grandma had like a brother that was a

 

 

 

766

 

00:24:46,590 --> 00:24:50,003

 

Anja: playwright and Theater director, and so she

 

 

 

767

 

00:24:50,043 --> 00:24:51,827

 

Anja: always says that, oh, you pulled from this

 

 

 

768

 

00:24:52,108 --> 00:24:54,092

 

Anja: brother I had, you know, but no one else in

 

 

 

769

 

00:24:54,112 --> 00:24:56,486

 

Anja: my family is Really about artsy.

 

 

 

770

 

00:24:56,506 --> 00:24:58,176

 

Anja: I think I have like a distant uncle that's

 

 

 

771

 

00:24:58,257 --> 00:25:01,209

 

Anja: a painter, but that's kind of where it ends.

 

 

 

772

 

00:25:02,581 --> 00:25:03,143

 

Anja: So, yeah, I don't.

 

 

 

773

 

00:25:03,163 --> 00:25:04,246

 

Anja: I don't know where it came from.

 

 

 

774

 

00:25:04,367 --> 00:25:05,570

 

Marc: Well, it's good that you kind of have that

 

 

 

775

 

00:25:05,610 --> 00:25:05,751

 

Marc: thing.

 

 

 

776

 

00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,956

 

Marc: It's your own thing, but also a lot of

 

 

 

777

 

00:25:07,976 --> 00:25:08,540

 

Marc: folks don't get it.

 

 

 

778

 

00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:11,205

 

Marc: You know, we're your parents down with it,

 

 

 

779

 

00:25:11,246 --> 00:25:13,791

 

Marc: like were they saying really acting, or

 

 

 

780

 

00:25:13,811 --> 00:25:15,214

 

Marc: were they like, hey, go for it.

 

 

 

781

 

00:25:15,421 --> 00:25:16,846

 

Marc: You know, did they have an opinion either

 

 

 

782

 

00:25:16,866 --> 00:25:17,047

 

Marc: way?

 

 

 

783

 

00:25:18,748 --> 00:25:18,971

 

Anja: It was.

 

 

 

784

 

00:25:19,012 --> 00:25:19,539

 

Anja: It was tricky.

 

 

 

785

 

00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,814

 

Anja: I think they were excited for me because I

 

 

 

786

 

00:25:22,895 --> 00:25:23,720

 

Anja: knew what I enjoyed.

 

 

 

787

 

00:25:24,422 --> 00:25:26,048

 

Anja: But at the same time they were worried that,

 

 

 

788

 

00:25:26,088 --> 00:25:28,135

 

Anja: you know, I wasn't gonna make enough money

 

 

 

789

 

00:25:28,196 --> 00:25:29,420

 

Anja: and I wouldn't be able to make a living.

 

 

 

790

 

00:25:29,681 --> 00:25:31,425

 

Anja: And of course I think that's every parent's

 

 

 

791

 

00:25:31,525 --> 00:25:34,293

 

Anja: fear, that you know you can't hold your own.

 

 

 

792

 

00:25:35,003 --> 00:25:36,918

 

Anja: But um, you know, I went to school, I went

 

 

 

793

 

00:25:36,938 --> 00:25:38,763

 

Anja: to university, I studied English and

 

 

 

794

 

00:25:38,823 --> 00:25:40,707

 

Anja: business and I thought, you know, one day

 

 

 

795

 

00:25:40,748 --> 00:25:43,513

 

Anja: I'll get a more regular office type job.

 

 

 

796

 

00:25:43,594 --> 00:25:45,980

 

Anja: And After I finished school I thought, okay,

 

 

 

797

 

00:25:46,181 --> 00:25:48,068

 

Anja: I'll do acting for another year and I'll

 

 

 

798

 

00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:48,811

 

Anja: see what happens.

 

 

 

799

 

00:25:49,112 --> 00:25:50,960

 

Anja: And then, you know, if it's not working out,

 

 

 

800

 

00:25:51,161 --> 00:25:52,607

 

Anja: I'll maybe find some other ways.

 

 

 

801

 

00:25:53,411 --> 00:25:55,380

 

Anja: And I booked ladder milk.

 

 

 

802

 

00:25:55,801 --> 00:25:58,346

 

Anja: So from there I kind of just kept going and

 

 

 

803

 

00:25:59,308 --> 00:26:01,533

 

Anja: I haven't jumped to the plan B yet.

 

 

 

804

 

00:26:01,793 --> 00:26:04,906

 

Marc: So Hopefully never well, they said what

 

 

 

805

 

00:26:04,926 --> 00:26:06,471

 

Marc: I've heard to talk to so many people that

 

 

 

806

 

00:26:06,511 --> 00:26:09,088

 

Marc: said Something to the effect of if you can

 

 

 

807

 

00:26:09,128 --> 00:26:11,277

 

Marc: see yourself doing anything else, you know

 

 

 

808

 

00:26:11,458 --> 00:26:11,960

 

Marc: realistically.

 

 

 

809

 

00:26:12,201 --> 00:26:13,646

 

Marc: Yeah, it's probably it for you, and I think

 

 

 

810

 

00:26:13,666 --> 00:26:16,784

 

Marc: that's a lot of the folks who Do this.

 

 

 

811

 

00:26:17,006 --> 00:26:18,534

 

Marc: It's, this is in their DNA.

 

 

 

812

 

00:26:18,695 --> 00:26:19,339

 

Marc: They got to do it.

 

 

 

813

 

00:26:19,439 --> 00:26:21,157

 

Marc: Yeah, yeah you found something you're

 

 

 

814

 

00:26:21,291 --> 00:26:22,749

 

Marc: passionate about and I love.

 

 

 

815

 

00:26:22,883 --> 00:26:23,945

 

Marc: You know ladder milk.

 

 

 

816

 

00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:26,507

 

Marc: For me was was a pleasant surprise.

 

 

 

817

 

00:26:26,507 --> 00:26:28,251

 

Marc: I did not know is one of those things you

 

 

 

818

 

00:26:28,271 --> 00:26:28,652

 

Marc: walk into.

 

 

 

819

 

00:26:28,672 --> 00:26:31,643

 

Marc: I have no idea About anything, what to

 

 

 

820

 

00:26:31,683 --> 00:26:34,731

 

Marc: expect, but of course being in recovery is

 

 

 

821

 

00:26:34,791 --> 00:26:38,246

 

Marc: a big, big thing, naturally, in this did

 

 

 

822

 

00:26:38,466 --> 00:26:41,313

 

Marc: did you do any preparation for that by

 

 

 

823

 

00:26:42,741 --> 00:26:44,305

 

Marc: Going and attending any meetings?

 

 

 

824

 

00:26:44,687 --> 00:26:47,074

 

Marc: How did you prepare for to play this

 

 

 

825

 

00:26:47,114 --> 00:26:47,435

 

Marc: character?

 

 

 

826

 

00:26:47,595 --> 00:26:49,160

 

Anja: Yeah, I did a lot of research.

 

 

 

827

 

00:26:49,666 --> 00:26:52,945

 

Anja: I, first of all, I have people in my life

 

 

 

828

 

00:26:53,045 --> 00:26:55,271

 

Anja: that have dealt with substance abuse in

 

 

 

829

 

00:26:55,291 --> 00:26:58,124

 

Anja: different ways, so Talking to them was

 

 

 

830

 

00:26:58,485 --> 00:27:00,311

 

Anja: probably the most eye-opening and

 

 

 

831

 

00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,143

 

Anja: Interesting way to learn.

 

 

 

832

 

00:27:03,745 --> 00:27:07,054

 

Anja: And then I watched a lot of stuff on

 

 

 

833

 

00:27:07,134 --> 00:27:09,019

 

Anja: YouTube that I found there was like some

 

 

 

834

 

00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,086

 

Anja: very interesting Docs about addiction.

 

 

 

835

 

00:27:11,126 --> 00:27:14,866

 

Anja: I mean, even just watching what's that?

 

 

 

836

 

00:27:14,926 --> 00:27:15,711

 

Anja: What's that show?

 

 

 

837

 

00:27:16,034 --> 00:27:19,104

 

Anja: The really popular one when people are

 

 

 

838

 

00:27:19,144 --> 00:27:19,985

 

Anja: trying to get off drugs?

 

 

 

839

 

00:27:20,747 --> 00:27:22,570

 

Marc: Oh, is it like a reality show or yes?

 

 

 

840

 

00:27:22,971 --> 00:27:25,175

 

Anja: Yes, yes, yes, it's very dark.

 

 

 

841

 

00:27:26,301 --> 00:27:30,550

 

Anja: Anyway, I watched a bunch of that and I'm I

 

 

 

842

 

00:27:30,590 --> 00:27:34,363

 

Anja: just sort of tried to Put myself in her

 

 

 

843

 

00:27:34,403 --> 00:27:36,008

 

Anja: shoes, just reading through, reading the

 

 

 

844

 

00:27:36,048 --> 00:27:39,546

 

Anja: script and, and you know, being on set and

 

 

 

845

 

00:27:39,686 --> 00:27:42,844

 

Anja: asking questions and that kind of thing.

 

 

 

846

 

00:27:43,367 --> 00:27:46,826

 

Anja: So, yeah, I think there's all kinds of ways

 

 

 

847

 

00:27:46,966 --> 00:27:49,931

 

Anja: to to find your character and, especially

 

 

 

848

 

00:27:49,951 --> 00:27:51,313

 

Anja: with a topic this difficult, I think

 

 

 

849

 

00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:54,010

 

Anja: Addictions are also prevalent in other

 

 

 

850

 

00:27:54,171 --> 00:27:55,337

 

Anja: aspects of life too.

 

 

 

851

 

00:27:55,438 --> 00:27:58,944

 

Anja: Like, for me it's not so much substances,

 

 

 

852

 

00:27:59,064 --> 00:28:01,308

 

Anja: but you know there's other things that

 

 

 

853

 

00:28:02,591 --> 00:28:05,036

 

Anja: maybe we deal with, that you know, repeated

 

 

 

854

 

00:28:05,056 --> 00:28:06,826

 

Anja: behaviors or whatever that we're trying to

 

 

 

855

 

00:28:06,866 --> 00:28:08,831

 

Anja: curb, and it's like I get it.

 

 

 

856

 

00:28:09,111 --> 00:28:12,786

 

Anja: So that was a really interesting aspect of

 

 

 

857

 

00:28:12,926 --> 00:28:14,691

 

Anja: the show and I'm so glad that so many

 

 

 

858

 

00:28:14,711 --> 00:28:17,097

 

Anja: people connected to it, because obviously

 

 

 

859

 

00:28:17,157 --> 00:28:19,471

 

Anja: it's a big, a big point, yeah, and I think

 

 

 

860

 

00:28:19,491 --> 00:28:20,497

 

Anja: it was handled very well.

 

 

 

861

 

00:28:20,578 --> 00:28:21,765

 

Marc: I don't think it was meant that it was

 

 

 

862

 

00:28:21,845 --> 00:28:24,070

 

Marc: meant to be cuted up.

 

 

 

863

 

00:28:24,171 --> 00:28:24,572

 

Marc: Is that a word?

 

 

 

864

 

00:28:24,612 --> 00:28:26,015

 

Marc: I don't know In any way.

 

 

 

865

 

00:28:26,035 --> 00:28:27,566

 

Marc: I mean there was some humor that was in

 

 

 

866

 

00:28:27,606 --> 00:28:28,810

 

Marc: there, but I like kind of like you, you had

 

 

 

867

 

00:28:28,890 --> 00:28:29,592

 

Marc: people in your life.

 

 

 

868

 

00:28:29,672 --> 00:28:31,427

 

Marc: Now, I didn't have anybody that I was, that

 

 

 

869

 

00:28:31,447 --> 00:28:33,873

 

Marc: I was aware of, necessarily in my life, but

 

 

 

870

 

00:28:34,093 --> 00:28:36,238

 

Marc: I came up as a young kid, starting at 17.

 

 

 

871

 

00:28:36,345 --> 00:28:39,979

 

Marc: I started working in radio and so I liked

 

 

 

872

 

00:28:40,019 --> 00:28:41,404

 

Marc: hanging out with the guys and Gray Harry.

 

 

 

873

 

00:28:41,424 --> 00:28:43,111

 

Marc: Now they had really good stories about the

 

 

 

874

 

00:28:43,151 --> 00:28:46,102

 

Marc: other days way back when but a lot of that

 

 

 

875

 

00:28:46,563 --> 00:28:48,288

 

Marc: some aspect of recovery was part of their

 

 

 

876

 

00:28:48,388 --> 00:28:48,689

 

Marc: life.

 

 

 

877

 

00:28:48,910 --> 00:28:50,975

 

Marc: So I had a chance to kind of see them after

 

 

 

878

 

00:28:51,035 --> 00:28:52,057

 

Marc: the storm, as it were.

 

 

 

879

 

00:28:52,326 --> 00:28:54,396

 

Marc: You know, and then the young guys I was

 

 

 

880

 

00:28:54,436 --> 00:28:55,903

 

Marc: coming up with, some of them were going a

 

 

 

881

 

00:28:55,943 --> 00:28:56,746

 

Marc: little off the rail.

 

 

 

882

 

00:28:56,786 --> 00:28:59,031

 

Marc: So it's kind of seeing an A B comparison,

 

 

 

883

 

00:28:59,132 --> 00:28:59,573

 

Marc: if you will.

 

 

 

884

 

00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:00,615

 

Marc: You know before and after.

 

 

 

885

 

00:29:01,257 --> 00:29:02,648

 

Marc: And I just got to the point.

 

 

 

886

 

00:29:02,668 --> 00:29:04,675

 

Marc: I was like you know what I'm seeing, kind

 

 

 

887

 

00:29:04,695 --> 00:29:06,326

 

Marc: of weird things could go and I'm just not

 

 

 

888

 

00:29:06,346 --> 00:29:06,988

 

Marc: going to go do that.

 

 

 

889

 

00:29:07,589 --> 00:29:10,075

 

Marc: But I do think it does call upon you to say

 

 

 

890

 

00:29:10,256 --> 00:29:11,906

 

Marc: how much of this is just built into your

 

 

 

891

 

00:29:11,947 --> 00:29:12,949

 

Marc: DNA, you know?

 

 

 

892

 

00:29:12,989 --> 00:29:15,013

 

Marc: You know which some people it is, you know

 

 

 

893

 

00:29:15,414 --> 00:29:16,296

 

Marc: absolutely.

 

 

 

894

 

00:29:16,617 --> 00:29:17,018

 

Marc: So are you?

 

 

 

895

 

00:29:17,426 --> 00:29:19,034

 

Marc: Are you working on anything right now?

 

 

 

896

 

00:29:19,215 --> 00:29:20,762

 

Marc: Are you kind of taking a little break or

 

 

 

897

 

00:29:21,003 --> 00:29:22,046

 

Marc: what you have going?

 

 

 

898

 

00:29:22,106 --> 00:29:22,587

 

Anja: on.

 

 

 

899

 

00:29:23,108 --> 00:29:24,350

 

Anja: I'm on a little break right now.

 

 

 

900

 

00:29:25,793 --> 00:29:28,678

 

Anja: I just worked on recently a show called

 

 

 

901

 

00:29:28,718 --> 00:29:32,051

 

Anja: Tracker that's coming out in a couple days

 

 

 

902

 

00:29:32,713 --> 00:29:33,455

 

Anja: and that was really fun.

 

 

 

903

 

00:29:33,495 --> 00:29:35,986

 

Anja: Just a little guest star on that and yeah,

 

 

 

904

 

00:29:36,006 --> 00:29:38,151

 

Anja: just things in the works but not solidified

 

 

 

905

 

00:29:38,191 --> 00:29:40,016

 

Anja: yet so can't talk about them.

 

 

 

906

 

00:29:40,116 --> 00:29:41,849

 

Marc: But Well, how are you spending your time,

 

 

 

907

 

00:29:41,889 --> 00:29:42,069

 

Marc: though?

 

 

 

908

 

00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:43,414

 

Marc: I mean, what now that, now that you don't

 

 

 

909

 

00:29:43,454 --> 00:29:45,050

 

Marc: have schedules to be on?

 

 

 

910

 

00:29:45,170 --> 00:29:47,119

 

Marc: Is it just relaxation, or do you have

 

 

 

911

 

00:29:47,139 --> 00:29:47,480

 

Marc: things like?

 

 

 

912

 

00:29:47,541 --> 00:29:48,786

 

Marc: I've been meaning to do this thing?

 

 

 

913

 

00:29:49,670 --> 00:29:51,236

 

Anja: Totally Well, I'm working on a lot of

 

 

 

914

 

00:29:51,256 --> 00:29:51,638

 

Anja: writing.

 

 

 

915

 

00:29:51,818 --> 00:29:53,525

 

Anja: I have a writing partner, my friend Taylor

 

 

 

916

 

00:29:53,665 --> 00:29:53,906

 

Anja: Hill.

 

 

 

917

 

00:29:54,528 --> 00:29:56,413

 

Anja: Her and I write together and we're working

 

 

 

918

 

00:29:56,474 --> 00:30:00,144

 

Anja: on a comedy like a two best friend, two

 

 

 

919

 

00:30:00,165 --> 00:30:02,415

 

Anja: female best friends, parallel world type of

 

 

 

920

 

00:30:02,435 --> 00:30:02,756

 

Anja: thing.

 

 

 

921

 

00:30:02,817 --> 00:30:04,284

 

Anja: So we're working on that and hopefully

 

 

 

922

 

00:30:04,304 --> 00:30:05,167

 

Anja: trying to get that made.

 

 

 

923

 

00:30:06,752 --> 00:30:09,120

 

Anja: And other than that, you know, auditions

 

 

 

924

 

00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:12,488

 

Anja: here and there, some meetings and lots of

 

 

 

925

 

00:30:12,508 --> 00:30:13,650

 

Anja: getting outside in nature.

 

 

 

926

 

00:30:14,372 --> 00:30:17,577

 

Anja: Recently I moved to a little more like of a

 

 

 

927

 

00:30:17,697 --> 00:30:21,554

 

Anja: forested area in BC, near in Vancouver, and

 

 

 

928

 

00:30:21,694 --> 00:30:23,199

 

Anja: I'm just kind of getting outside and

 

 

 

929

 

00:30:23,239 --> 00:30:25,447

 

Anja: enjoying the nature and kind of getting

 

 

 

930

 

00:30:27,273 --> 00:30:28,416

 

Anja: getting more into the rain.

 

 

 

931

 

00:30:28,757 --> 00:30:29,600

 

Anja: It rains here a lot.

 

 

 

932

 

00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,306

 

Anja: It's the Pacific Northwest, so it's like

 

 

 

933

 

00:30:31,486 --> 00:30:34,794

 

Anja: constantly a downpour and I'm just I think

 

 

 

934

 

00:30:34,854 --> 00:30:39,064

 

Anja: I'm finally really enjoying the the, the

 

 

 

935

 

00:30:39,104 --> 00:30:41,170

 

Anja: rain and all the greenery that it causes.

 

 

 

936

 

00:30:42,513 --> 00:30:44,138

 

Anja: I've also really been enjoying traveling.

 

 

 

937

 

00:30:44,338 --> 00:30:47,929

 

Anja: So my partner and I we went to Europe and

 

 

 

938

 

00:30:48,892 --> 00:30:50,838

 

Anja: traveled around there, visited my family in

 

 

 

939

 

00:30:50,858 --> 00:30:53,607

 

Anja: Bosnia, which was super fun and like

 

 

 

940

 

00:30:53,748 --> 00:30:55,857

 

Anja: interesting to have him yeah, to have him

 

 

 

941

 

00:30:55,938 --> 00:30:57,605

 

Anja: integrated into, like my family, my grandma.

 

 

 

942

 

00:30:57,745 --> 00:30:59,370

 

Marc: So you still have a good connection to

 

 

 

943

 

00:30:59,771 --> 00:31:01,796

 

Marc: Bosnia and you have a lot of family that

 

 

 

944

 

00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:02,237

 

Marc: was left there.

 

 

 

945

 

00:31:02,546 --> 00:31:04,233

 

Anja: I do, yeah, I think when you left.

 

 

 

946

 

00:31:04,293 --> 00:31:05,397

 

Marc: Wasn't that right about the?

 

 

 

947

 

00:31:05,939 --> 00:31:07,506

 

Marc: I mean, I'm not totally sure of the

 

 

 

948

 

00:31:07,827 --> 00:31:08,449

 

Marc: timeline.

 

 

 

949

 

00:31:09,052 --> 00:31:09,473

 

Marc: Yeah, it was.

 

 

 

950

 

00:31:09,815 --> 00:31:10,919

 

Marc: It was right when the war was starting,

 

 

 

951

 

00:31:10,939 --> 00:31:11,441

 

Marc: during the war.

 

 

 

952

 

00:31:11,561 --> 00:31:12,846

 

Anja: Yeah, that's right.

 

 

 

953

 

00:31:12,906 --> 00:31:15,772

 

Anja: Yeah, so I have a lot of family that stayed

 

 

 

954

 

00:31:16,153 --> 00:31:18,138

 

Anja: and I have a lot of family that left.

 

 

 

955

 

00:31:18,218 --> 00:31:20,269

 

Anja: There's, you know, I have family in Italy

 

 

 

956

 

00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:22,735

 

Anja: and in Germany and I think there's some

 

 

 

957

 

00:31:22,775 --> 00:31:26,233

 

Anja: people in Australia even, and it's, it's

 

 

 

958

 

00:31:26,273 --> 00:31:28,401

 

Anja: interesting, the diasporic community and

 

 

 

959

 

00:31:28,441 --> 00:31:29,364

 

Anja: then the people that stayed.

 

 

 

960

 

00:31:29,384 --> 00:31:32,295

 

Anja: There's like a real difference of culture,

 

 

 

961

 

00:31:32,516 --> 00:31:34,503

 

Anja: right, because the kids are growing up in

 

 

 

962

 

00:31:34,523 --> 00:31:35,085

 

Anja: different places.

 

 

 

963

 

00:31:35,947 --> 00:31:37,391

 

Marc: Now how old were you when you left again?

 

 

 

964

 

00:31:38,093 --> 00:31:39,797

 

Anja: I was three, so I was quite young.

 

 

 

965

 

00:31:40,425 --> 00:31:42,553

 

Marc: Do you have any echoes of memories of that

 

 

 

966

 

00:31:42,593 --> 00:31:43,034

 

Marc: time at all?

 

 

 

967

 

00:31:43,725 --> 00:31:45,048

 

Anja: Not really not much.

 

 

 

968

 

00:31:45,128 --> 00:31:47,794

 

Anja: I actually do remember being in Serbia and

 

 

 

969

 

00:31:48,015 --> 00:31:50,226

 

Anja: my grandpa taking me to a play I think it

 

 

 

970

 

00:31:50,266 --> 00:31:51,951

 

Anja: was a puppet show and I remember it really

 

 

 

971

 

00:31:52,031 --> 00:31:53,676

 

Anja: stuck in my head and then he bought me a

 

 

 

972

 

00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:56,634

 

Anja: book on like performances, like puppetry.

 

 

 

973

 

00:31:56,655 --> 00:31:56,775

 

Marc: Really.

 

 

 

974

 

00:31:57,517 --> 00:31:59,544

 

Anja: So yeah, and I think of that now and I'm

 

 

 

975

 

00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:02,089

 

Anja: like, wow, I think I was already drawn to,

 

 

 

976

 

00:32:02,791 --> 00:32:05,376

 

Anja: you know, this sort of entertainment

 

 

 

977

 

00:32:05,997 --> 00:32:06,959

 

Anja: performer world.

 

 

 

978

 

00:32:08,605 --> 00:32:10,951

 

Anja: But yeah, I really enjoyed going back to

 

 

 

979

 

00:32:10,971 --> 00:32:13,336

 

Anja: the Balkans and traveling through Croatia

 

 

 

980

 

00:32:13,396 --> 00:32:15,992

 

Anja: and Montenegro and Bosnia and I think that

 

 

 

981

 

00:32:16,153 --> 00:32:16,976

 

Anja: area of the world.

 

 

 

982

 

00:32:17,036 --> 00:32:18,944

 

Marc: Coastal, like Croatia, somewhere I would

 

 

 

983

 

00:32:19,004 --> 00:32:21,534

 

Marc: love to go, it's gorgeous.

 

 

 

984

 

00:32:21,634 --> 00:32:23,200

 

Marc: I mean, Anthony Bourdain was kind of my

 

 

 

985

 

00:32:23,261 --> 00:32:24,686

 

Marc: spirit animal and I remember him going to

 

 

 

986

 

00:32:24,706 --> 00:32:25,007

 

Marc: Croatia.

 

 

 

987

 

00:32:25,027 --> 00:32:25,950

 

Announcer: once I was like wow.

 

 

 

988

 

00:32:26,512 --> 00:32:26,934

 

Marc: That was like.

 

 

 

989

 

00:32:26,974 --> 00:32:28,600

 

Marc: That looks like the coastal.

 

 

 

990

 

00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,085

 

Marc: You know that episode.

 

 

 

991

 

00:32:30,226 --> 00:32:31,150

 

Marc: He actually fell over.

 

 

 

992

 

00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:32,516

 

Marc: He had too much wine to drink.

 

 

 

993

 

00:32:32,557 --> 00:32:34,325

 

Marc: It was a hilarious it was a great episode.

 

 

 

994

 

00:32:34,486 --> 00:32:36,153

 

Marc: But it was like I had no idea what a

 

 

 

995

 

00:32:36,294 --> 00:32:38,143

 

Marc: beautiful, beautiful place, because I guess

 

 

 

996

 

00:32:38,183 --> 00:32:39,971

 

Marc: it's framed in my mind from years ago of

 

 

 

997

 

00:32:40,011 --> 00:32:41,838

 

Marc: being a place where war was happening and

 

 

 

998

 

00:32:42,441 --> 00:32:43,706

 

Marc: I'm sure kids these days will look at

 

 

 

999

 

00:32:43,767 --> 00:32:45,896

 

Marc: Ukraine the same way you know, and oh God

 

 


Speaker:

00:32:45,916 --> 00:32:47,845

 

Marc: yeah as I was kind of putting some things

 

 


Speaker:

00:32:47,945 --> 00:32:49,071

 

Marc: together just doing I don't know.

 

 


Speaker:

00:32:49,794 --> 00:32:51,723

 

Marc: I don't like to overly research when I chat

 

 


Speaker:

00:32:51,743 --> 00:32:52,867

 

Marc: with somebody because I'm going to forget

 

 


Speaker:

00:32:52,887 --> 00:32:54,632

 

Marc: to ask you a question or something.

 

 


Speaker:

00:32:54,672 --> 00:32:56,506

 

Marc: But we looked at, I think, your Instagram

 

 


Speaker:

00:32:56,907 --> 00:33:00,032

 

Marc: and did you road trip through Texas by any

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:00,072 --> 00:33:00,293

 

Marc: chance?

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:01,915 --> 00:33:03,178

 

Anja: I did so.

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:03,258 --> 00:33:05,947

 

Anja: I worked on a show called yeah, I worked on

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:05,987 --> 00:33:09,375

 

Anja: a show called Big Sky and we filmed that in

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:09,495 --> 00:33:10,577

 

Anja: Albuquerque, new Mexico.

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:10,758 --> 00:33:16,771

 

Anja: So I lived there for about eight months and

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:17,432 --> 00:33:20,958

 

Anja: during the weekends my husband and I would

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:20,998 --> 00:33:21,640

 

Anja: travel around.

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:21,765 --> 00:33:24,595

 

Anja: So we went into Texas, we visited some of

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:24,615 --> 00:33:26,944

 

Anja: the national parks in New Mexico and New

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:26,984 --> 00:33:31,058

 

Anja: Mexico, by the way, so underrated I think A

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:31,118 --> 00:33:32,564

 

Anja: lot of people think when they think

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:32,624 --> 00:33:34,769

 

Anja: Albuquerque, they think Breaking Bad and

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:37,595

 

Anja: that's like where they stop, you know, but

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:37,636 --> 00:33:40,430

 

Anja: there's such, it's such a cool landscape.

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:40,731 --> 00:33:44,322

 

Anja: And for me, I really love Westerns, so all

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:44,342 --> 00:33:46,668

 

Anja: I could think about was Cormac McCarthy and,

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:46,729 --> 00:33:51,019

 

Anja: like you know, people on horses and like

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:52,022 --> 00:33:53,285

 

Anja: just you're the second guest I've had that

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:53,425 --> 00:33:54,067

 

Anja: mentioned him.

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:54,850 --> 00:33:55,251

 

Anja: Oh really.

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:55,291 --> 00:33:58,060

 

Marc: Yeah, garrett Dillahunt mentioned him

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:58,201 --> 00:33:59,525

 

Marc: before as somebody that was either

 

 


Speaker:

00:33:59,645 --> 00:34:01,730

 

Marc: influential or you really liked, so I gotta

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:03,334

 

Marc: go read or check out this stuff?

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:03,795 --> 00:34:04,757

 

Anja: Oh, you have to.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:04,918 --> 00:34:06,513

 

Anja: Yeah, he's incredible.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:06,601 --> 00:34:08,179

 

Anja: I'm gonna make a note here, yeah, you

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:08,267 --> 00:34:09,301

 

Anja: should you know, so funny.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:09,389 --> 00:34:10,740

 

Marc: I'll speak with somebody like you got to

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,943

 

Marc: read this book or you got to check this

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:11,983 --> 00:34:13,048

 

Marc: thing out, and I'm like oh, absolutely,

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:13,088 --> 00:34:14,858

 

Marc: I'll write it down and I'll misplace the

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:14,878 --> 00:34:15,100

 

Marc: paper.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:15,663

 

Marc: I wrote it on me.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:15,783 --> 00:34:16,746

 

Anja: Are you into Westerns?

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:16,867 --> 00:34:19,572

 

Anja: Do you like sort of the Deserty vibes you

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:19,613 --> 00:34:19,733

 

Anja: know?

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:19,793 --> 00:34:22,358

 

Marc: I'm not necessarily a big, big Western

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:22,485 --> 00:34:24,974

 

Marc: person, but if there's a good story behind

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:25,035 --> 00:34:27,363

 

Marc: it, I find that I can like any genre.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:27,524 --> 00:34:29,090

 

Marc: If there's good story, it's either well

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:29,833

 

Marc: acted or there's.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:30,135 --> 00:34:30,436

 

Marc: You can.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:30,918 --> 00:34:32,384

 

Marc: If it's a book, you can disappear into it

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:32,424 --> 00:34:35,695

 

Marc: and you can kind of your your mind's eye

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:35,816 --> 00:34:37,561

 

Marc: can kind of see it, you know that makes

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:37,582 --> 00:34:38,244

 

Marc: sense, of course.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:38,364 --> 00:34:39,107

 

Anja: I think you'll.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:39,268 --> 00:34:41,116

 

Anja: You'll start to enjoy the genre more if you

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:41,176 --> 00:34:42,843

 

Anja: check them out, because I wasn't a big

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:42,884 --> 00:34:45,070

 

Anja: Western fan either, and then, once I

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:47,416

 

Anja: started reading him, I definitely changed

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:47,436 --> 00:34:47,857

 

Anja: my mind.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,827

 

Anja: He added a richness that I hadn't thought

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:50,867 --> 00:34:52,973

 

Anja: of before and a depth that I was like wow.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:53,594 --> 00:34:54,597

 

Anja: So I think you'll enjoy.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:54,645 --> 00:34:55,717

 

Marc: Well, you're a big sky.

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:55,775 --> 00:34:57,479

 

Marc: That's one of the shows and there's so much

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:57,537 --> 00:34:59,090

 

Marc: stuff out there that I really want to check

 

 


Speaker:

00:34:59,210 --> 00:35:03,282

 

Marc: out that I just would gas to have on them

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:03,322 --> 00:35:04,325

 

Marc: on to make sure I'm watching some of their

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:04,465 --> 00:35:04,766

 

Marc: stuff.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:04,806 --> 00:35:06,470

 

Anja: Oh God, you can't watch everything, that'd

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:06,490 --> 00:35:07,212

 

Anja: be crazy.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:07,393 --> 00:35:10,529

 

Marc: But big sky is one is Kylie, Kylie Bunbury

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:10,629 --> 00:35:11,752

 

Marc: is that her name, Kylie?

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:11,792 --> 00:35:12,374

 

Anja: Bunbury.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:12,414 --> 00:35:13,557

 

Anja: Yeah, she was one of the leads.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:14,525 --> 00:35:18,293

 

Marc: Yeah, that anything she's in and she was in

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:18,313 --> 00:35:20,478

 

Marc: the show my Daughter Light, or she was a

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:20,538 --> 00:35:22,129

 

Marc: picture, major league picture, and she

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:22,149 --> 00:35:23,393

 

Marc: really liked it, and so whatever she shows

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:23,453 --> 00:35:26,271

 

Marc: up in, I really, I really enjoy yeah she's

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:26,291 --> 00:35:27,034

 

Marc: fantastic.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:27,054 --> 00:35:27,495

 

Marc: She was in.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:27,535 --> 00:35:28,458

 

Marc: Was it Game Night?

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:29,381 --> 00:35:30,645

 

Marc: Oh yeah, she was in Game Night.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:30,645 --> 00:35:31,992

 

Anja: That was a great movie.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:32,099 --> 00:35:33,160

 

Anja: I loved that film.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:33,266 --> 00:35:33,966

 

Anja: That was really fun.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:34,072 --> 00:35:35,620

 

Marc: Again that kind of comedy, you can kind of

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,001

 

Marc: get lost.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:36,121 --> 00:35:37,202

 

Marc: I don't know why they don't have those

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:37,502 --> 00:35:39,866

 

Marc: those shows, those movies, as much as

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:40,127 --> 00:35:40,929

 

Marc: you're major writer.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:41,009 --> 00:35:42,994

 

Anja: Maybe you can write something like that,

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:43,074 --> 00:35:45,446

 

Anja: yeah, seriously, I'm definitely, yeah,

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:45,788 --> 00:35:47,855

 

Anja: edging towards comedy, for sure, when I'm

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:50,524

 

Anja: writing, it's also just the it feels the

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:50,564 --> 00:35:51,208

 

Anja: best to write.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:51,369 --> 00:35:53,079

 

Anja: You know, when you're writing a drama and

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:53,099 --> 00:35:54,145

 

Anja: you're getting into the nitty gritty and

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:54,325 --> 00:35:55,529

 

Anja: getting into these dark scenes, you don't

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:55,689 --> 00:35:56,993

 

Anja: feel good after.

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:57,294 --> 00:35:58,297

 

Anja: But when you're writing a comedy,

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:58,485 --> 00:35:59,709

 

Anja: especially if you're working with someone,

 

 


Speaker:

00:35:59,729 --> 00:36:01,755

 

Anja: you're just laughing the whole time and you

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:01,775 --> 00:36:02,055

 

Anja: have a good.

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:02,586 --> 00:36:04,173

 

Anja: You have a good day for the rest of the day,

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:04,213 --> 00:36:04,474

 

Anja: you know.

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:04,695 --> 00:36:06,805

 

Marc: I've played around just for fun, writing

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:06,966 --> 00:36:07,548

 

Marc: screenplays.

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:07,669 --> 00:36:09,155

 

Marc: I don't think I don't know it'd be nice if

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:09,296 --> 00:36:10,621

 

Marc: one would sell.

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:10,662 --> 00:36:12,228

 

Marc: I've never put one out there but it's just

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:12,288 --> 00:36:14,236

 

Marc: fun to me, it's cathartic or whatever, but

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:14,256 --> 00:36:16,906

 

Marc: you really, it really helped me appreciate

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:16,926 --> 00:36:18,852

 

Marc: the casting process more because as you're

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:18,892 --> 00:36:21,346

 

Marc: writing it you really get a sense of the

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:21,427 --> 00:36:23,075

 

Marc: aesthetic of the character and everything,

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:23,136 --> 00:36:24,905

 

Marc: and and it makes you feel better when you

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:24,925 --> 00:36:26,449

 

Marc: go audition for something and don't get it

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:26,469 --> 00:36:27,874

 

Marc: and we're like I just wasn't the person

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:27,914 --> 00:36:30,710

 

Marc: they imagined, you know, or the director

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:33,335

 

Marc: you know, but comedy, but yeah, I could see

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:33,375 --> 00:36:35,227

 

Marc: where you really get involved in it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:35,427 --> 00:36:37,977

 

Marc: You know because you're thinking aesthetics,

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:38,318 --> 00:36:39,925

 

Marc: the scenery, what are, where are they, what

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:39,945 --> 00:36:40,491

 

Marc: are they doing?

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:40,535 --> 00:36:42,049

 

Marc: You know what's around, you know you really

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:42,093 --> 00:36:43,421

 

Marc: kind of submerge yourself almost like a

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:43,525 --> 00:36:46,573

 

Marc: daydream, if you will, totally a happy

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:46,613 --> 00:36:47,095

 

Marc: daydream.

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:47,797 --> 00:36:50,404

 

Marc: Yes, yeah so you know, so are you.

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:50,725 --> 00:36:51,528

 

Marc: You know your goal.

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:51,568 --> 00:36:53,416

 

Marc: Maybe in the next year or two are you

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:53,436 --> 00:36:55,425

 

Marc: wanting to put a TV show out there or, you

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:55,445 --> 00:36:58,431

 

Marc: know, is that kind of the destination for?

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:58,451 --> 00:36:59,674

 

Anja: you, I think.

 

 


Speaker:

00:36:59,894 --> 00:37:01,537

 

Anja: I mean I would love to put a TV show out,

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:01,678 --> 00:37:04,210

 

Anja: but I think it's a lot harder to make a TV

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:05,533

 

Anja: show than it is to make a movie.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:05,713 --> 00:37:07,806

 

Anja: So I think I'd probably start with a

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:07,846 --> 00:37:10,613

 

Anja: feature and then, you know, work my way

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:10,653 --> 00:37:11,675

 

Anja: towards something like that.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:11,836 --> 00:37:14,249

 

Anja: I'd love to just work in comedy again in

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:14,289 --> 00:37:18,056

 

Anja: general, but I'm kind of open to everything.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:18,156 --> 00:37:19,399

 

Anja: I'm whatever comes my way.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:19,746 --> 00:37:23,194

 

Anja: As you know, with acting it's kind of not

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:23,234 --> 00:37:26,944

 

Anja: always so up to us and you got to kind of

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:27,004 --> 00:37:28,930

 

Anja: chase the opportunities that come your way.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:29,171 --> 00:37:32,381

 

Anja: Yeah, exactly, so I don't know.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:32,742 --> 00:37:34,286

 

Anja: I don't want to like put anything definite

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:34,326 --> 00:37:36,511

 

Anja: out there, but in terms of my own work,

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:36,592 --> 00:37:38,677

 

Anja: definitely something comedic, probably a

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:38,737 --> 00:37:40,188

 

Anja: movie, would be really fun.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:40,228 --> 00:37:41,632

 

Marc: Yeah, I do have to finish this match.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:41,692 --> 00:37:43,096

 

Marc: We started watching it last night.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:43,646 --> 00:37:46,712

 

Marc: And then we have my kids.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:47,153 --> 00:37:48,476

 

Marc: My two of them are in college in New

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:48,536 --> 00:37:50,487

 

Marc: Orleans right now, but the one is with me.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:50,728 --> 00:37:54,098

 

Marc: He loves the TV show the Rookie on ABC.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:55,321 --> 00:37:55,622

 

Announcer: Oh, the.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:55,642 --> 00:37:56,645

 

Marc: Rookie, we're going to go watch it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:56,826 --> 00:37:58,314

 

Marc: And so we were watching your film was like,

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:58,375 --> 00:37:59,763

 

Marc: oh, rookie's coming on, gotta watch it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:37:59,783 --> 00:38:00,446

 

Marc: Debut for this year.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:00,546 --> 00:38:02,373

 

Anja: Oh yeah, you got to go to the thing you

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:02,413 --> 00:38:02,714

 

Anja: love.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:03,296 --> 00:38:05,825

 

Marc: So we'll come back to it, but I really

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:06,026 --> 00:38:06,851

 

Marc: liked the premise of it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:06,911 --> 00:38:07,253

 

Marc: I didn't.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:07,334 --> 00:38:08,863

 

Marc: I'm wondering if there are really people

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:08,943 --> 00:38:10,247

 

Marc: out there that do that thing of mismatch,

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:12,714

 

Marc: where you go and test dates or trial runs

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:12,774 --> 00:38:15,969

 

Marc: of dates with people to kind of was that,

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:16,009 --> 00:38:16,953

 

Marc: was that already a thing?

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:17,013 --> 00:38:18,720

 

Marc: I didn't know, I didn't know about?

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:18,821 --> 00:38:19,825

 

Anja: I don't think it's a thing.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:20,046 --> 00:38:22,034

 

Anja: I think it's they were kind of going for

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:22,054 --> 00:38:24,324

 

Anja: like a female hitch type vibe, if you

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:24,344 --> 00:38:25,700

 

Anja: remember that movie with Will Smith.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:25,777 --> 00:38:27,746

 

Marc: I, that's, that's what I was thinking.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:27,823 --> 00:38:28,877

 

Marc: Yeah, yeah, that's it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:28,954 --> 00:38:31,311

 

Anja: So she's kind of like training men to go

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:31,371 --> 00:38:33,559

 

Anja: out on dates and helping them with that.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,045

 

Anja: And yeah, that was a cute movie.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:35,265 --> 00:38:36,127

 

Anja: I had a lot of fun.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:36,688 --> 00:38:39,394

 

Anja: I worked with the director, lucy Guest.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:39,474 --> 00:38:42,646

 

Anja: She's also here from Vancouver and we

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:42,686 --> 00:38:44,110

 

Anja: really clicked and became really good

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:44,151 --> 00:38:44,411

 

Anja: friends.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:44,451 --> 00:38:47,088

 

Anja: So I got I made a lot of really great

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:47,148 --> 00:38:48,855

 

Anja: relationships on that film.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:49,779 --> 00:38:50,642

 

Marc: And it seems like it's fun.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:50,662 --> 00:38:52,313

 

Marc: Like I said, I've only gotten about 20

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:52,416 --> 00:38:54,417

 

Marc: something minutes into it until the rookie

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,563

 

Marc: came on, but but, the beauty of streaming,

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:56,563 --> 00:38:57,085

 

Marc: it's always right there.

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:57,105 --> 00:38:58,209

 

Marc: So we're going to come back, probably

 

 


Speaker:

00:38:58,249 --> 00:39:01,029

 

Marc: tonight, but I like the one, the guy who

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:01,310 --> 00:39:02,796

 

Marc: yeah, I think somebody speaking with you

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:02,857 --> 00:39:04,664

 

Marc: has a little like little control and they

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:04,704 --> 00:39:05,869

 

Marc: spit when they talk a lot.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:06,552 --> 00:39:07,194

 

Marc: Yeah.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:07,314 --> 00:39:08,439

 

Announcer: I know when that came up.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:08,499 --> 00:39:10,005

 

Marc: It was just somebody I know, who's going to

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:10,146 --> 00:39:11,633

 

Marc: remain nameless, will be very vague, but

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:11,774 --> 00:39:13,683

 

Marc: one of those people that is a close

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:13,703 --> 00:39:13,984

 

Marc: standing.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:14,004 --> 00:39:15,472

 

Marc: You know, those people stand a little too

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:15,513 --> 00:39:16,438

 

Marc: close when they talk to you.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:16,699 --> 00:39:18,186

 

Anja: Wasn't there a Seinfeld character like that?

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:18,226 --> 00:39:20,893

 

Anja: That stood super close, yeah, yeah, but

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:20,933 --> 00:39:22,357

 

Anja: there's definitely a lot of they talk

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:22,397 --> 00:39:22,597

 

Anja: that's.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:23,187 --> 00:39:25,177

 

Marc: I've been in that situation once before and

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:25,217 --> 00:39:26,021

 

Marc: it's so uncount.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:26,041 --> 00:39:27,006

 

Marc: You don't want to, you don't want to make

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:27,026 --> 00:39:28,476

 

Marc: somebody feel bad about it, but it's like

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:28,536 --> 00:39:29,764

 

Marc: you know you're sitting there like wiping

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:29,785 --> 00:39:30,166

 

Marc: off going.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:30,246 --> 00:39:31,087

 

Marc: Yeah, okay.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:31,147 --> 00:39:31,367

 

Announcer: Yeah.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,585

 

Marc: One of the things I like to do.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:40,805 --> 00:39:42,148

 

Marc: I want to ask my seven questions.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:42,857 --> 00:39:44,283

 

Marc: It's just some fun I like to do.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:44,897 --> 00:39:46,302

 

Marc: But the first one I'm a big food nerd.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:46,937 --> 00:39:48,201

 

Marc: I mentioned Anthony Bourdain before.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:48,221 --> 00:39:50,599

 

Marc: I'm a big food nerd, but I got to ask what

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:50,659 --> 00:39:52,545

 

Marc: is your favorite comfort food?

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:52,715 --> 00:39:54,308

 

Marc: That thing that you just love that?

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:54,469 --> 00:39:55,857

 

Marc: You're having a bad day, you eat it, you'll

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:55,938 --> 00:39:56,400

 

Marc: feel better.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:56,420 --> 00:39:57,243

 

Marc: Or you're having a great day.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:57,295 --> 00:39:58,322

 

Marc: You're like man.

 

 


Speaker:

00:39:58,362 --> 00:40:00,455

 

Marc: This is to help celebrate.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:00,455 --> 00:40:01,841

 

Marc: I'm going to have my favorite comfort food.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:03,298 --> 00:40:04,944

 

Anja: I love spaghetti bolognese.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:05,355 --> 00:40:08,724

 

Anja: That's like my favorite favorite thing,

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:08,944 --> 00:40:10,923

 

Anja: like a homemade one, I think that's been

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:10,943 --> 00:40:12,697

 

Anja: mentioned three or four times, except that.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:12,757 --> 00:40:14,583

 

Marc: I talked to a Brit and he called it Spag

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:14,623 --> 00:40:14,764

 

Marc: Bowl.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:15,236 --> 00:40:16,320

 

Anja: This is what apparently they call it in

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:16,702

 

Anja: England.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:17,175 --> 00:40:18,701

 

Anja: Yeah, I should probably call it that.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:18,741 --> 00:40:19,484

 

Anja: How much I eat it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:19,856 --> 00:40:20,921

 

Anja: I need to shorten my time.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:21,375 --> 00:40:22,820

 

Marc: I mean, it doesn't sound pleasant unless

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,964

 

Marc: you know what it is, you know it's like

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:24,004 --> 00:40:24,345

 

Marc: Spag Bowl.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:24,515 --> 00:40:25,137

 

Anja: He's always like a.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:25,177 --> 00:40:25,659

 

Marc: Spag Bowl.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:26,662

 

Marc: I was like what's a Spag Bowl?

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:26,682 --> 00:40:27,384

 

Marc: Oh, spaghetti bologna.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:27,856 --> 00:40:28,718

 

Marc: So you're not.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:28,739 --> 00:40:30,304

 

Marc: You're not alone in that camp or in that

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:30,625

 

Marc: tribe.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:30,755 --> 00:40:32,141

 

Anja: Oh love spaghetti bolognese.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:33,155 --> 00:40:34,659

 

Marc: Now, if you are to sit down, let's say

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:36,966

 

Marc: you're going to have coffee with three

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:37,006 --> 00:40:37,837

 

Marc: people a few hours.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:37,877 --> 00:40:40,145

 

Marc: Sit down, talk story, living or not.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:40,275 --> 00:40:41,880

 

Marc: Who would three people be you would love to

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,802

 

Marc: sit down with and chat?

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:44,195 --> 00:40:46,941

 

Anja: Oh my gosh, that's a very hard question.

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:51,216 --> 00:40:52,924

 

Marc: I know I don't mean it to be hard, but it's

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:52,964 --> 00:40:55,235

 

Marc: funny, because I spoke with someone the

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:55,276 --> 00:40:57,581

 

Marc: other day, sheree Agdashlu, and she was

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:57,601 --> 00:40:58,744

 

Marc: like who are your three people?

 

 


Speaker:

00:40:58,785 --> 00:40:59,306

 

Marc: I was like shit.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:00,096 --> 00:41:00,961

 

Announcer: Oh, what did you say?

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:03,697 --> 00:41:04,901

 

Marc: Well, I told her, I said one of them is my

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:04,941 --> 00:41:06,586

 

Marc: grandfather who passed away, because I said

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:06,655 --> 00:41:07,818

 

Marc: I'm getting to that age where I'd love to

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:07,838 --> 00:41:09,461

 

Marc: kind of like check in with him on certain

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:09,521 --> 00:41:09,762

 

Marc: things.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:09,782 --> 00:41:10,864

 

Marc: You know, my kids are getting old.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:13,621

 

Marc: Yeah, that's beautiful, you know you don't

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:13,661 --> 00:41:15,189

 

Marc: know, until you're older the questions you

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:15,249 --> 00:41:16,997

 

Marc: haven't asked that you should have asked,

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:17,297 --> 00:41:18,421

 

Marc: but you didn't know to ask because you're

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:18,441 --> 00:41:18,822

 

Marc: too young.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:18,903 --> 00:41:19,605

 

Announcer: So true.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:20,316 --> 00:41:20,738

 

Anja: That I think.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:20,758 --> 00:41:22,804

 

Marc: I mentioned Alan Watts and it was one of

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:22,824 --> 00:41:22,945

 

Marc: them.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:23,295 --> 00:41:24,620

 

Anja: Oh, I love Alan Watts.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:24,981 --> 00:41:26,077

 

Anja: Yeah, oh God, I used to when.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:26,097 --> 00:41:27,525

 

Marc: I worked on the radio briefly in LA.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:28,068 --> 00:41:29,997

 

Marc: I used to live in Sinita, just north county

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:30,017 --> 00:41:31,562

 

Marc: of San Diego, so I'd go to In-N-Out Burger

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:31,582 --> 00:41:33,778

 

Marc: get a chocolate shake and drive south the

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:33,798 --> 00:41:35,363

 

Marc: head back home after I got off the air.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:36,776 --> 00:41:37,420

 

Marc: And I would turn.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,090

 

Marc: It was a radio Pacific or somewhere they

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:39,110 --> 00:41:39,211

 

Marc: would.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:39,432 --> 00:41:41,099

 

Marc: I didn't know who it was, but I'd listen to

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:41,139 --> 00:41:42,423

 

Marc: him every day driving back.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:43,135 --> 00:41:43,235

 

Marc: And.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:43,777 --> 00:41:45,101

 

Marc: But now I just one of those guys who just

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:45,161 --> 00:41:46,706

 

Marc: love to sit down and groove on you know

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:46,915 --> 00:41:48,020

 

Marc: life with you know talk.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:48,716 --> 00:41:50,222

 

Anja: Oh my God, I love him.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:50,335 --> 00:41:53,888

 

Anja: I used to listen to his, his, his lectures,

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:54,009 --> 00:41:55,635

 

Anja: like I had that series of all his lectures

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:55,756 --> 00:41:56,903

 

Anja: and I would just listen to them over and

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:56,984 --> 00:41:57,548

 

Anja: over and over.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:57,729 --> 00:41:58,655

 

Anja: Oh yeah, they're so good.

 

 


Speaker:

00:41:58,815 --> 00:42:00,621

 

Marc: Well, his son just released something.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:01,243 --> 00:42:01,784

 

Marc: It's an app.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:02,656 --> 00:42:03,741

 

Marc: It's an Alan Watts app.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:03,935 --> 00:42:06,442

 

Marc: It's got literally everything organized and

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:06,643 --> 00:42:10,052

 

Marc: it's it was, and I just you're the only

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:10,115 --> 00:42:11,642

 

Marc: guess I've had that really knew who he was.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:12,205 --> 00:42:13,230

 

Announcer: So it's kind of yay.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:13,371 --> 00:42:15,358

 

Marc: He's great, but yeah, there's an app out

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:15,378 --> 00:42:16,863

 

Marc: there and his son, Marc Watts, put it

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:16,903 --> 00:42:18,737

 

Marc: together and I don't know it's, he's one of

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:18,778 --> 00:42:20,663

 

Marc: those guys you listen to go yeah, never

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:20,683 --> 00:42:21,916

 

Marc: really thought about life that way.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:22,157 --> 00:42:23,499

 

Marc: You know live in the moment.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:23,539 --> 00:42:24,963

 

Anja: There is no tomorrow, yeah, and he keeps

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:24,983 --> 00:42:27,655

 

Anja: that light, he keeps it very light, he

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:27,675 --> 00:42:29,762

 

Anja: laughs a lot and yeah, he's, he's a great

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:29,802 --> 00:42:30,002

 

Anja: guy.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:30,143 --> 00:42:31,537

 

Anja: Actually, I you know what I'll go with Alan

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:31,557 --> 00:42:34,400

 

Anja: Watts for one of mine, um one of my people.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:35,142 --> 00:42:35,484

 

Announcer: Yeah.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:36,196 --> 00:42:38,023

 

Anja: Um, I'm a sucker for Oprah Winfrey.

 

 


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00:42:38,355 --> 00:42:40,580

 

Anja: I just have loved her ever since I was a

 

 


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00:42:40,621 --> 00:42:42,445

 

Anja: kid and watched her show with my mom, you

 

 


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00:42:42,485 --> 00:42:43,587

 

Anja: know, every day after school.

 

 


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00:42:43,855 --> 00:42:47,998

 

Anja: So definitely her, and maybe like Noam

 

 


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00:42:48,018 --> 00:42:50,443

 

Anja: Chomsky, just to learn a little bit more

 

 


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00:42:50,463 --> 00:42:51,084

 

Anja: about the world.

 

 


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00:42:51,485 --> 00:42:52,607

 

Anja: Yeah, I love him.

 

 


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00:42:53,375 --> 00:42:54,159

 

Marc: Oh, he had a great quote.

 

 


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00:42:54,179 --> 00:42:55,567

 

Marc: The other day I saw something that he's

 

 


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00:42:55,607 --> 00:42:56,134

 

Marc: talking about AI.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:56,556 --> 00:42:58,898

 

Marc: He said AI is not a thinking thing, it's a.

 

 


Speaker:

00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,766

 

Marc: It's a plagiarism machine.

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:01,409 --> 00:43:01,629

 

Marc: Is what?

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:01,650 --> 00:43:01,971

 

Announcer: he called it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:02,015 --> 00:43:03,260

 

Announcer: I was, like you know, that kind of is

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:03,601 --> 00:43:04,797

 

Announcer: because it's not creating, it's just

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:05,262 --> 00:43:06,695

 

Announcer: digesting and regurgitating.

 

 


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00:43:07,898 --> 00:43:10,483

 

Anja: Have you seen how good the videos are

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:10,504 --> 00:43:10,784

 

Anja: getting?

 

 


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00:43:11,887 --> 00:43:14,123

 

Anja: Scary Somebody showed something last year

 

 


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00:43:14,163 --> 00:43:16,515

 

Anja: that video of Will Smith eating spaghetti.

 

 


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00:43:16,575 --> 00:43:18,077

 

Marc: I mean, we've all seen it which is just a

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:18,117 --> 00:43:18,258

 

Marc: story.

 

 


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00:43:18,298 --> 00:43:19,960

 

Anja: That one was terrible yeah.

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,162

 

Marc: And they show one year later.

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:21,262 --> 00:43:23,346

 

Marc: Now it's like indistinguishable, you know

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:23,466 --> 00:43:24,207

 

Marc: it's insane.

 

 


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00:43:24,367 --> 00:43:24,988

 

Anja: It's insane.

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:25,269 --> 00:43:26,050

 

Anja: I'm terrified, I'm terrified.

 

 


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00:43:26,295 --> 00:43:27,760

 

Marc: I live a lot in the world of voiceover and

 

 


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00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,092

 

Marc: some people are like you know it is kind of

 

 


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00:43:31,212 --> 00:43:31,975

 

Marc: you know, easy to replicate.

 

 


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00:43:32,176 --> 00:43:34,446

 

Marc: But I'm like I said, the one thing I tell I

 

 


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00:43:34,687 --> 00:43:36,455

 

Marc: teach voiceover and also, and I tell my

 

 


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00:43:36,576 --> 00:43:38,426

 

Marc: students is it's never, I don't care.

 

 


Speaker:

00:43:38,446 --> 00:43:39,814

 

Marc: Anybody says I know some people like well,

 

 


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00:43:39,834 --> 00:43:42,638

 

Marc: you never know technology, it's never going

 

 


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00:43:42,658 --> 00:43:45,589

 

Marc: to be able to be like an actor has emotion

 

 


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00:43:45,709 --> 00:43:48,358

 

Marc: and it can't make choices and reflect that

 

 


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00:43:48,398 --> 00:43:50,143

 

Marc: through facial expression, body language,

 

 


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00:43:51,655 --> 00:43:53,166

 

Marc: and so there's always going to be and the

 

 


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00:43:53,267 --> 00:43:54,415

 

Marc: moment I don't know about you, but we're

 

 


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00:43:54,455 --> 00:43:57,603

 

Marc: not watching a YouTube video and I pick out

 

 


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00:43:57,684 --> 00:43:58,646

 

Marc: oh, that's a voice.

 

 


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00:43:59,176 --> 00:44:01,117

 

Marc: I'm immediately out of it, I feel like it's

 

 


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00:44:01,157 --> 00:44:04,145

 

Marc: just it's just it feels kind of like I

 

 


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00:44:04,165 --> 00:44:05,007

 

Marc: would rather read it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:44:05,075 --> 00:44:06,741

 

Marc: I don't need to have a computer voice

 

 


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00:44:06,781 --> 00:44:08,598

 

Marc: talking to me, it's just maybe I'm weird

 

 


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00:44:08,659 --> 00:44:10,946

 

Marc: like that, but no, I agree completely.

 

 


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Anja: I think we all want a real, authentic human

 

 


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00:44:13,783 --> 00:44:15,166

 

Anja: and especially when it's something artistic,

 

 


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00:44:15,295 --> 00:44:16,661

 

Anja: we want to know that they felt what they

 

 


Speaker:

00:44:16,681 --> 00:44:17,244

 

Anja: were making.

 

 


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00:44:17,847 --> 00:44:19,956

 

Anja: You know that they, they came up with it,

 

 


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00:44:20,097 --> 00:44:21,301

 

Anja: not some computer.

 

 


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00:44:21,341 --> 00:44:22,124

 

Anja: So I'm with you there.

 

 


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00:44:22,375 --> 00:44:24,082

 

Marc: Can you imagine a movie that was written by

 

 


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00:44:24,202 --> 00:44:24,443

 

Marc: AI?

 

 


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00:44:24,555 --> 00:44:26,484

 

Marc: If I found out, found that I mean it may be

 

 


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00:44:26,604 --> 00:44:29,015

 

Marc: interesting just from a pure curiosity

 

 


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00:44:29,115 --> 00:44:31,643

 

Marc: standpoint, but not like to have that be a

 

 


Speaker:

00:44:31,723 --> 00:44:32,445

 

Marc: norm or something.

 

 


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00:44:33,216 --> 00:44:34,539

 

Anja: It's going to be the new toy everybody

 

 


Speaker:

00:44:34,579 --> 00:44:37,324

 

Anja: plays with for a while, and then you know I

 

 


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00:44:37,345 --> 00:44:38,988

 

Anja: don't know what's going to happen Totally

 

 


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00:44:39,675 --> 00:44:41,140

 

Anja: and, and I'm sure there'll be movies and

 

 


Speaker:

00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:43,026

 

Anja: songs and things like that that we'll love

 

 


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00:44:43,215 --> 00:44:44,723

 

Anja: that'll be AI, but I think there'll be a

 

 


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00:44:44,783 --> 00:44:47,094

 

Anja: limit to the amount that we allow it into

 

 


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00:44:47,114 --> 00:44:47,295

 

Anja: our lives.

 

 


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00:44:47,355 --> 00:44:48,681

 

Marc: I think we love connection.

 

 


Speaker:

00:44:48,895 --> 00:44:51,264

 

Marc: I think we love instinctively authenticity

 

 


Speaker:

00:44:51,565 --> 00:44:54,255

 

Marc: and that human desire I think is going to

 

 


Speaker:

00:44:54,395 --> 00:44:57,462

 

Marc: be the roadblock for AI to go beyond.

 

 


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00:44:57,602 --> 00:44:59,747

 

Marc: You know absolutely.

 

 


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00:45:00,415 --> 00:45:02,819

 

Anja: So Dome Chomsky and Alan Watson you have

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:02,839 --> 00:45:03,940

 

Anja: heard one of that Oprah Winfrey, oprah

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,262

 

Anja: Winfrey, oprah Winfrey.

 

 


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00:45:05,282 --> 00:45:05,763

 

Anja: I heard that was three.

 

 


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00:45:05,823 --> 00:45:07,726

 

Marc: Alan Watts, yeah, got a good one, oh, very

 

 


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00:45:07,766 --> 00:45:07,926

 

Marc: good.

 

 


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00:45:07,946 --> 00:45:08,066

 

Anja: Yeah.

 

 


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00:45:11,295 --> 00:45:12,443

 

Marc: You know, she the arc of her career, me

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:12,463 --> 00:45:13,832

 

Marc: being younger watching which I first

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:13,853 --> 00:45:16,604

 

Marc: started doing her show and how she evolved

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:16,624 --> 00:45:17,919

 

Marc: it, Because when it started off it was a

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:17,959 --> 00:45:19,364

 

Marc: little bit like the Phil Donahue show.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:19,435 --> 00:45:22,332

 

Marc: It was not the Oprah Winfrey show that it

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:22,412 --> 00:45:24,159

 

Marc: evolved into I mean the first year or two,

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:24,701 --> 00:45:26,768

 

Marc: but she's definitely a self-made woman,

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:26,869 --> 00:45:27,471

 

Marc: without a doubt.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:27,691 --> 00:45:30,119

 

Marc: She's the best Now if we were to go back

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:35,273

 

Marc: and when you were young, on yet who was

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:35,293 --> 00:45:35,594

 

Marc: your first?

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:35,614 --> 00:45:37,825

 

Marc: Celebrity crush that you were looking at.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:38,116 --> 00:45:39,441

 

Announcer: My first celebrity crush.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:39,481 --> 00:45:40,324

 

Marc: Was it somebody on the OC.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:41,238 --> 00:45:42,141

 

Marc: No, because you had mentioned that.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:43,658 --> 00:45:44,802

 

Anja: Oh, I did love the OC.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:46,438 --> 00:45:47,522

 

Anja: That's a good question.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:48,982 --> 00:45:53,203

 

Anja: I don't know, I had a lot of posters up in

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:53,223 --> 00:45:53,584

 

Anja: my room.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:54,562 --> 00:45:55,269

 

Marc: A lot of J-14.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:56,898 --> 00:45:58,142

 

Anja: I don't know if you know that magazine.

 

 


Speaker:

00:45:58,162 --> 00:46:00,579

 

Marc: It was like a kid's it was kind of like

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,943

 

Marc: Tiger Beach or something like that.

 

 


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00:46:01,983 --> 00:46:02,826

 

Anja: Yeah, totally.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:03,075 --> 00:46:04,599

 

Anja: And they had posters inside and I'd always

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:08,637

 

Anja: have them up on my walls, but probably like

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:08,697 --> 00:46:12,566

 

Anja: a first crush, maybe Shia LaBeouf.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:13,836 --> 00:46:15,620

 

Marc: Because I loved even Stevens yeah.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:16,322 --> 00:46:16,943

 

Announcer: That's right.

 

 


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00:46:17,164 --> 00:46:18,607

 

Marc: I forgot he did that yeah.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:19,216 --> 00:46:20,501

 

Anja: Yeah, he was great in that.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:21,095 --> 00:46:24,457

 

Anja: He's a talented guy, so Shia LaBeouf was

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:24,478 --> 00:46:26,343

 

Anja: the first Makes sense.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:26,643 --> 00:46:28,781

 

Marc: Yeah, of the era, yeah.

 

 


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00:46:28,821 --> 00:46:30,110

 

Anja: I'm trying to think that he was popular

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:30,130 --> 00:46:30,795

 

Anja: when I was growing up.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:31,276 --> 00:46:33,140

 

Marc: I think the original Beverly Hills night of

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,285

 

Marc: two when I was in high school.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:35,325 --> 00:46:38,816

 

Marc: Though Now I'm old, you see, I'm trying to

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:38,836 --> 00:46:39,819

 

Marc: remember way back when.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:41,664

 

Marc: Like, who was you know what was going on

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:41,685 --> 00:46:42,005

 

Marc: back then?

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:42,355 --> 00:46:44,642

 

Marc: But now the next question I got for you if

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:44,682 --> 00:46:46,567

 

Marc: you're going to go to, let's say, an exotic

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:46,715 --> 00:46:48,160

 

Marc: island, you're going to be living on it for

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,525

 

Marc: a year and you're not like a cast away.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:49,695 --> 00:46:51,702

 

Marc: It's nice, maybe the resort, but it doesn't

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:51,742 --> 00:46:52,204

 

Marc: have internet.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:52,515 --> 00:46:54,141

 

Marc: No, no streaming, no, nothing.

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:55,335 --> 00:46:58,703

 

Marc: So you have to bring one DVD of a movie and

 

 


Speaker:

00:46:58,824 --> 00:47:02,881

 

Marc: one CD of an album or who or what would

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:02,901 --> 00:47:04,185

 

Marc: that CD and DVD be?

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:04,285 --> 00:47:05,796

 

Marc: You bring with you Something you could

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:05,857 --> 00:47:07,701

 

Marc: watch and listen to over and over again.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:08,623 --> 00:47:16,366

 

Anja: Okay, hmm, I think for movie maybe Greece.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:18,015 --> 00:47:19,541

 

Anja: Greece is like one of my favorite films.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:20,276 --> 00:47:21,601

 

Anja: I could probably watch that every single

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:21,641 --> 00:47:22,805

 

Anja: day and be happy with it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:23,075 --> 00:47:24,500

 

Marc: Oh, I had a thing for a living Newton John

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,804

 

Marc: back in the day, so I'm there with you.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:26,135 --> 00:47:27,003

 

Anja: Oh, I had a thing for Kenickie.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:27,215 --> 00:47:29,262

 

Anja: He was my, he was my crush for sure.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:30,255 --> 00:47:31,641

 

Anja: Maybe that was my first crush.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:32,336 --> 00:47:33,659

 

Anja: Although it's so weird to think of like a

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:35,684

 

Anja: grown man when you're like 10 watching

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:35,724 --> 00:47:36,025

 

Anja: something.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:36,145 --> 00:47:38,358

 

Anja: It was, I remember watching that thinking.

 

 


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00:47:38,779 --> 00:47:41,485

 

Marc: I remember we were at the grocery store and

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:41,986 --> 00:47:43,660

 

Marc: my mother, we went to go get something.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:43,681 --> 00:47:45,031

 

Marc: And I'm walking through and I see a people

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:45,071 --> 00:47:46,478

 

Marc: magazine in the rack and talking about how

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:46,498 --> 00:47:47,924

 

Marc: Olivia Newton John got married.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:48,657 --> 00:47:49,581

 

Marc: I mean his year, I mean.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:49,882 --> 00:47:52,391

 

Marc: I was taken back as like wait, you know, I

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:52,712 --> 00:47:54,761

 

Marc: had no concept of age at that point.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:54,855 --> 00:47:56,343

 

Marc: I was like, if I have a crush on them, I'll

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:56,363 --> 00:47:57,066

 

Marc: meet them one day.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:57,146 --> 00:47:59,618

 

Marc: And then you know, such as the seven year

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:59,658 --> 00:48:00,943

 

Marc: old or eight year old mind, I guess.

 

 


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00:48:01,837 --> 00:48:03,383

 

Anja: Yeah, I know Okay.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:03,755 --> 00:48:07,295

 

Anja: So I think that's my favorite album.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:07,335 --> 00:48:12,302

 

Anja: That's harder, maybe like Hot Fuss by the

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:12,343 --> 00:48:12,744

 

Anja: Killers.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:13,375 --> 00:48:15,521

 

Anja: That was one of my first favorite albums

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:15,822 --> 00:48:17,487

 

Anja: and I still think it's a perfect album.

 

 


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00:48:17,775 --> 00:48:19,234

 

Anja: No-transcript, I'll go with that.

 

 


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00:48:19,434 --> 00:48:19,877

 

Marc: That was like a.

 

 


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00:48:19,917 --> 00:48:22,610

 

Anja: What was it like it was a long time ago,

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:23,773

 

Anja: that was early 2000s.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:24,014 --> 00:48:27,273

 

Anja: Roughly Am I okay, totally yeah, yeah, it

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:27,313 --> 00:48:27,534

 

Anja: was.

 

 


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00:48:28,451 --> 00:48:29,976

 

Marc: I think I played some of that on the radio

 

 


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00:48:30,691 --> 00:48:32,457

 

Marc: way back in my radio days, which are long

 

 


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00:48:32,497 --> 00:48:32,738

 

Marc: gone.

 

 


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00:48:33,290 --> 00:48:35,232

 

Anja: You have such a radio voice, it's like

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:35,774 --> 00:48:36,577

 

Anja: makes total sense.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:36,617 --> 00:48:37,259

 

Anja: You were on the radio.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:38,672 --> 00:48:41,121

 

Marc: I've been accused of that Now it's now.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:41,182 --> 00:48:42,475

 

Marc: I've got the last thing and it was a

 

 


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00:48:42,515 --> 00:48:43,810

 

Marc: syndicated show on ABC Radio.

 

 


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00:48:43,992 --> 00:48:45,089

 

Anja: I guess a podcast is similar.

 

 


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00:48:45,251 --> 00:48:46,299

 

Anja: Well, you know that's.

 

 


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00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:48,257

 

Marc: The thing I missed about radio was not the

 

 


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00:48:48,318 --> 00:48:51,256

 

Marc: playing of the music, because before when

 

 


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00:48:51,276 --> 00:48:52,951

 

Marc: the audience catches on to the song and

 

 


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00:48:52,971 --> 00:48:54,366

 

Marc: they start loving it, you're sick and tired

 

 


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00:48:54,406 --> 00:48:56,235

 

Marc: of hearing it because just you gotta play

 

 


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00:48:56,276 --> 00:48:58,334

 

Marc: it so much and you're in the studio four or

 

 


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00:48:58,374 --> 00:48:59,077

 

Marc: five hours a day.

 

 


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00:48:59,491 --> 00:49:01,929

 

Marc: But no, when I had my show on ABC, that was

 

 


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00:49:01,949 --> 00:49:03,825

 

Marc: like I could talk with people, like I had a

 

 


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00:49:03,906 --> 00:49:05,498

 

Marc: retro show, which was a lot of fun, talked

 

 


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00:49:05,538 --> 00:49:09,281

 

Marc: like Rick Springfield and I've got any one

 

 


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00:49:09,301 --> 00:49:10,890

 

Marc: of the people from the retro era.

 

 


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00:49:11,053 --> 00:49:12,412

 

Marc: That was so much fun for me because that's

 

 


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00:49:12,432 --> 00:49:13,215

 

Marc: who I grew up with.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:14,092 --> 00:49:15,390

 

Marc: But I missed that part of it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:15,592 --> 00:49:17,070

 

Marc: I didn't miss other aspects of it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:17,210 --> 00:49:19,959

 

Marc: So I just did acting and voiceover, which

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:23,364

 

Marc: is my main gig, and then I figured well,

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:23,384 --> 00:49:25,173

 

Marc: the podcast will satisfy and scratch that

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:25,333 --> 00:49:26,999

 

Marc: itch of being able to talk to interesting

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:27,391 --> 00:49:29,694

 

Marc: fascinating people from Canada Totally.

 

 


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00:49:30,591 --> 00:49:33,199

 

Anja: I've been watching a lot of Frasier right

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:33,259 --> 00:49:35,649

 

Anja: now and, like the old the original one.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:35,791 --> 00:49:37,427

 

Announcer: The new one is a new one out of the

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:37,447 --> 00:49:38,157

 

Announcer: original one, the new one's out, but.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:38,177 --> 00:49:39,653

 

Anja: I'm watching the original and it's just

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:39,834 --> 00:49:42,997

 

Anja: such a good show and I love all the radio

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:43,038 --> 00:49:45,589

 

Anja: bits in it and you could totally do that

 

 


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00:49:45,831 --> 00:49:46,755

 

Anja: Become a psychologist.

 

 


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00:49:47,371 --> 00:49:49,297

 

Marc: Yeah, a lot of those are pretty accurate.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:49,891 --> 00:49:52,512

 

Marc: Like there's a lot of absurdity in radio, a

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:52,593 --> 00:49:55,255

 

Marc: lot of personalities that are just oh yeah,

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:55,295 --> 00:49:56,279

 

Marc: the people that call in.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:56,931 --> 00:49:59,652

 

Anja: I mean that alone is like whoa, who am I

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:59,673 --> 00:50:00,316

 

Anja: going to get today?

 

 


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00:50:00,791 --> 00:50:02,510

 

Marc: There are some that are just heartwarming,

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:02,712 --> 00:50:04,149

 

Marc: like people like oh man, it's like every

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:04,169 --> 00:50:05,335

 

Marc: week I look forward to hearing it.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:05,611 --> 00:50:06,696

 

Marc: Others they call up going.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:07,592 --> 00:50:08,948

 

Marc: Thank God I don't live in the same city as

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:08,968 --> 00:50:10,088

 

Marc: they do, because this could be dangerous.

 

 


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00:50:10,352 --> 00:50:11,790

 

Announcer: I mean, I've heard stories of stalker.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:11,992 --> 00:50:13,508

 

Marc: I even had one stalker once but that's a

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:13,528 --> 00:50:13,914

 

Marc: whole oh.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:14,524 --> 00:50:15,934

 

Marc: God, but he stalked everybody.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:15,995 --> 00:50:16,557

 

Marc: I wasn't unique.

 

 


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00:50:16,970 --> 00:50:18,536

 

Anja: Your stalker didn't make you feel special.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:18,918 --> 00:50:23,581

 

Marc: Well, no, I remember I was a helicopter.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:25,470

 

Marc: I flew in a helicopter doing traffic in

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:25,550 --> 00:50:27,715

 

Marc: Dallas when I was like 20 years old and we

 

 


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00:50:27,795 --> 00:50:29,327

 

Marc: landed in a place in a suburb called

 

 


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00:50:29,408 --> 00:50:31,597

 

Marc: Arlington where they would refuel the

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:31,677 --> 00:50:32,399

 

Marc: helicopter as well.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:33,478 --> 00:50:34,890

 

Marc: There was a Dallas police helicopter

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:36,510

 

Marc: landing and refueling in the TV station.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:36,711 --> 00:50:38,357

 

Marc: So we had like two or three at any given

 

 


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00:50:38,397 --> 00:50:41,008

 

Marc: time and one of them was for another radio

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:41,028 --> 00:50:41,230

 

Marc: station.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:41,391 --> 00:50:43,748

 

Marc: That pilot walked over and we were just

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:43,769 --> 00:50:45,002

 

Marc: talking because I had to finish my last

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:46,232

 

Marc: report and I got out and we were eating

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:48,488

 

Marc: donuts and coffee and that was early in the

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:48,508 --> 00:50:49,861

 

Marc: morning and I found out.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:50,002 --> 00:50:50,810

 

Marc: We just had a conversation.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:51,011 --> 00:50:53,102

 

Marc: We had the same stalker and I'd found out

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:53,143 --> 00:50:54,179

 

Marc: another friend of mine, another radio

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:54,220 --> 00:50:54,830

 

Marc: station had the same guy.

 

 


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00:50:54,951 --> 00:50:56,743

 

Marc: He changed names, he used different names

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:56,764 --> 00:50:57,150

 

Marc: of different people.

 

 


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00:50:57,150 --> 00:50:58,998

 

Marc: He was really smart at finding out the

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:59,076 --> 00:51:00,997

 

Marc: hotline phone number at every radio station

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:01,017 --> 00:51:03,385

 

Marc: and calling and tour meeting and I was like

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:03,405 --> 00:51:05,255

 

Marc: for a month he found my home telephone

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:05,295 --> 00:51:07,071

 

Marc: number, would call me at all hours and I

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:07,111 --> 00:51:09,379

 

Marc: was like when I found out that he would

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:09,399 --> 00:51:12,158

 

Marc: call my, this guy Jim my friend Trey.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:12,178 --> 00:51:12,921

 

Announcer: I was like wait a minute.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:13,463 --> 00:51:14,307

 

Marc: I'm not special.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:14,387 --> 00:51:15,713

 

Marc: I'm not the one, I'm not the one.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:17,440

 

Marc: There are other people he's stalking.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:17,478 --> 00:51:20,440

 

Anja: I felt like I feel like that's a comedy

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,640

 

Anja: movie right there, like someone being

 

 


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00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:23,748

 

Anja: scared of their stalker and then being like

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:23,768 --> 00:51:25,457

 

Anja: wait a minute, why am I not the only one?

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:27,571 --> 00:51:29,015

 

Announcer: It's I want to be a friend to him now Be a

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:29,035 --> 00:51:29,457

 

Announcer: great movie.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:32,536

 

Anja: Yeah, why not just me?

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:33,151 --> 00:51:33,914

 

Anja: Am I not good enough?

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:34,632 --> 00:51:35,716

 

Marc: Well, there you go, there you go.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:36,111 --> 00:51:37,537

 

Marc: I get a story by credit.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:38,457 --> 00:51:39,587

 

Marc: It's your next project.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:39,667 --> 00:51:39,950

 

Marc: Go for it.

 

 


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00:51:40,051 --> 00:51:42,173

 

Announcer: That's so good, I love that, but no, this

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:42,194 --> 00:51:43,398

 

Announcer: guy had hear scary stories.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:44,511 --> 00:51:46,587

 

Marc: I was 20 and I hadn't quite moved out of my

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:46,667 --> 00:51:48,170

 

Marc: own yet and my father got really mad.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:48,351 --> 00:51:49,796

 

Marc: He's like why is this person calling at all

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:49,897 --> 00:51:50,098

 

Marc: hours?

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:50,371 --> 00:51:52,144

 

Marc: I was like I got no control over this guy.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:52,164 --> 00:51:52,990

 

Marc: Oh Jesus, he was really.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:53,211 --> 00:51:56,148

 

Marc: He was like a high school kid who just had

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:56,168 --> 00:51:56,490

 

Marc: a good game.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:56,671 --> 00:51:58,557

 

Marc: He knew how to call up the new people of

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:58,577 --> 00:51:59,500

 

Marc: the station, scare him.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:59,771 --> 00:52:01,057

 

Marc: Hey, I need a phone number of so-and-so.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:01,371 --> 00:52:02,917

 

Marc: And somebody's like yeah, okay, I'll give

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:02,957 --> 00:52:03,198

 

Marc: it to you.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:03,491 --> 00:52:04,910

 

Marc: He got everybody's home phone number.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:07,479

 

Marc: So he was very well known around Dallas as

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:07,901 --> 00:52:10,350

 

Marc: circa 1990.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:10,370 --> 00:52:12,818

 

Marc: Wow 91, 92, no, about 93, I think, is one

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:12,838 --> 00:52:13,019

 

Marc: of them.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:13,310 --> 00:52:15,370

 

Marc: So anyway, sorry, I wanted to dim you off

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:15,485 --> 00:52:16,375

 

Marc: the sidetrack there.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:16,476 --> 00:52:17,459

 

Marc: But yeah, I had a stalker.

 

 


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00:52:17,912 --> 00:52:20,140

 

Anja: No, that was fascinating and scary that is

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:20,262 --> 00:52:20,993

 

Anja: one of the things I mean.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:21,014 --> 00:52:22,408

 

Marc: There are some gnarly stories I've heard

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:22,428 --> 00:52:23,153

 

Marc: about, but it is.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:23,756 --> 00:52:26,188

 

Marc: The radio ecosystem back in the day was

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:26,249 --> 00:52:28,759

 

Marc: cool because you had a lot of personalities

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:28,884 --> 00:52:30,146

 

Marc: both on and off the air.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:30,732 --> 00:52:33,213

 

Marc: That made it interesting, and Frasier is a

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:33,253 --> 00:52:34,358

 

Marc: great representation of that.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:34,671 --> 00:52:36,045

 

Marc: You think somebody's cool on the air?

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:36,085 --> 00:52:36,570

 

Marc: They get off the air.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:39,484

 

Marc: They are a train wreck or somebody's mild

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:39,524 --> 00:52:41,744

 

Marc: mannered on the air and they are mild

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:41,784 --> 00:52:43,356

 

Marc: mannered in real life but they go on the

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:43,397 --> 00:52:45,150

 

Marc: air and they're like boisterous.

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:45,331 --> 00:52:47,397

 

Marc: There's a movie from way back a long time

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:47,437 --> 00:52:51,934

 

Marc: ago called American Graffiti and Wolfman

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:51,954 --> 00:52:54,255

 

Marc: Jack is DJ and there's a scene when Richard

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:54,356 --> 00:52:57,340

 

Marc: Rifus walks in and he's talking to this guy

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:57,884 --> 00:52:59,682

 

Marc: and he doesn't realize that's the guy he's

 

 


Speaker:

00:52:59,702 --> 00:53:00,309

 

Marc: hearing on the radio.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:00,733 --> 00:53:02,122

 

Marc: But it's two different personalities.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:02,625 --> 00:53:03,189

 

Marc: But it's a grave.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:03,514 --> 00:53:04,350

 

Marc: You ever seen American Graffiti?

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:04,471 --> 00:53:04,551

 

Marc: You?

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:04,591 --> 00:53:05,133

 

Announcer: know, but it's a.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:05,294 --> 00:53:06,057

 

Marc: that's an old movie.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:08,298

 

Marc: But now we know your album, we know your CD.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:08,532 --> 00:53:09,987

 

Marc: But the next question is if you were

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:10,027 --> 00:53:12,278

 

Marc: defined from the time you get up in the

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:12,318 --> 00:53:14,474

 

Marc: morning to the time you put your head down,

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:15,016 --> 00:53:16,838

 

Marc: you know, on the pillow at night.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:17,020 --> 00:53:19,312

 

Marc: If you had a perfect day, what would be the

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:19,373 --> 00:53:21,660

 

Marc: component parts of that perfect day for you?

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:21,871 --> 00:53:23,496

 

Marc: The things you've done and experienced, or

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:23,998 --> 00:53:24,540

 

Marc: anything really?

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:26,551 --> 00:53:27,574

 

Anja: I think my answer would be.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:28,958 --> 00:53:31,613

 

Anja: I guess it would be something simple Like

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:32,034 --> 00:53:35,002

 

Anja: wake up without an alarm, Go outside, have

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:35,022 --> 00:53:37,022

 

Anja: a nice walk with the dog, have some work

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:37,042 --> 00:53:41,308

 

Anja: today, you know probably go to set work on

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:41,328 --> 00:53:42,476

 

Anja: some scenes, come home, have dinner, chill,

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:42,496 --> 00:53:43,000

 

Anja: watch a movie.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:44,813 --> 00:53:46,562

 

Anja: I think sometimes the things that seem

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:46,602 --> 00:53:47,789

 

Anja: boring are actually the best.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:49,070

 

Anja: That's what everybody says.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:50,261 --> 00:53:51,593

 

Marc: You know, more than one person has, I mean

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:51,613 --> 00:53:53,930

 

Marc: I'd say at least half have mentioned coffee

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:54,132 --> 00:53:55,585

 

Marc: being the first thing, making coffee in the

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:55,605 --> 00:53:55,868

 

Marc: morning.

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:57,419 --> 00:53:58,406

 

Marc: I was speaking with Billy Magnuson and he

 

 


Speaker:

00:53:58,426 --> 00:54:00,244

 

Marc: said the ritual of making coffee in the

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:00,284 --> 00:54:00,506

 

Marc: morning.

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:01,011 --> 00:54:02,318

 

Marc: I'm like yes, that's a thing like grind my

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:02,338 --> 00:54:04,837

 

Marc: beans, do the thing.

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:04,857 --> 00:54:06,546

 

Marc: That's for me the way you know, totally,

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:07,471 --> 00:54:08,905

 

Marc: and I'm out of beans so I didn't start my

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:08,945 --> 00:54:10,570

 

Marc: day like that, so I feel a little off.

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:10,610 --> 00:54:12,935

 

Marc: But anything else in there, are you?

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:12,955 --> 00:54:13,257

 

Marc: You?

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:13,498 --> 00:54:14,824

 

Announcer: know as far as hobbies or activities you

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:14,884 --> 00:54:15,327

 

Announcer: like to do.

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:16,151 --> 00:54:16,955

 

Marc: Yeah, I mean, I love to read.

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:20,819 --> 00:54:21,743

 

Anja: I love to just like.

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:21,903 --> 00:54:23,069

 

Anja: I'm exploring lots of different movement in

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:23,089 --> 00:54:26,306

 

Anja: my life, so I want to take up maybe some

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:26,427 --> 00:54:27,030

 

Anja: martial arts.

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:28,658

 

Anja: Yeah, I'm thinking about Taekwondo or

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:28,739 --> 00:54:31,375

 

Anja: something like that, just like I'm thinking

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:31,395 --> 00:54:33,473

 

Anja: about Taekwondo, something like that just

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:33,533 --> 00:54:37,553

 

Anja: to A be able to defend myself but also just

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:37,693 --> 00:54:40,314

 

Anja: challenge myself in a way, and I kind of

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:40,354 --> 00:54:41,891

 

Anja: like that they have all the belts that you

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:41,912 --> 00:54:43,878

 

Anja: have to earn and stuff and kind of gives

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:43,898 --> 00:54:44,929

 

Anja: you something to focus on.

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:46,195

 

Anja: I think that's really cool.

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:51,523

 

Anja: But yeah, just I think trying new skills,

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:55,720

 

Anja: trying a new thing and learning something

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:56,052 --> 00:54:57,304

 

Anja: is always a good day for me.

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:57,325 --> 00:54:57,789

 

Anja: You know?

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:57,991 --> 00:54:59,798

 

Marc: Yeah, because as you get older it becomes a

 

 


Speaker:

00:54:59,858 --> 00:55:01,592

 

Marc: little bit of seductive, just to go with a

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:01,632 --> 00:55:04,931

 

Marc: thing that's comfortable and routine and

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:04,971 --> 00:55:07,013

 

Marc: it's kind of nice to break it up it is and

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:07,033 --> 00:55:07,997

 

Marc: to challenge yourself.

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:08,291 --> 00:55:10,003

 

Marc: I was thinking about that like the Tai Chi

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:10,124 --> 00:55:11,933

 

Marc: or yoga was a thing you know, just to stay

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:12,034 --> 00:55:13,178

 

Marc: limber, you know.

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:14,222 --> 00:55:15,787

 

Anja: I keep telling me that's on my agenda.

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:15,867 --> 00:55:17,638

 

Marc: I still want to do that Just to just to be

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:17,779 --> 00:55:19,130

 

Marc: limber, and people I know that are into it

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:20,957

 

Marc: seem to be healthier generally.

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:22,635

 

Anja: Have you done yoga before?

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:22,835 --> 00:55:23,538

 

Marc: Unintentionally.

 

 


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00:55:26,328 --> 00:55:26,830

 

Anja: My back hurts.

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:26,993 --> 00:55:28,981

 

Anja: I have to do the stretch, yeah, but not

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:29,042 --> 00:55:29,710

 

Anja: actually I did a thing.

 

 


Speaker:

00:55:29,850 --> 00:55:31,336

 

Marc: I was in a car accident years ago and they

 

 


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Marc: were talking about had some herniated discs

 

 


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00:55:34,765 --> 00:55:36,314

 

Marc: and they said well, you got to show me

 

 


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Marc: different exercises.

 

 


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Announcer: Like.

 

 


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Marc: I did.

 

 


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Marc: I remember doing a couple of them, thinking

 

 


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Marc: generally oh, I feel looser in other places

 

 


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Marc: too, so I need to do that.

 

 


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Marc: You should write a little note here, yoga

 

 


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00:55:47,314 --> 00:55:49,310

 

Marc: yoga, I got to put that on my little daily,

 

 


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Marc: my notepad of things to do for the day, but

 

 


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00:55:51,036 --> 00:55:51,438

 

Marc: at the top.

 

 


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Anja: Maybe, maybe you need to sign up for a

 

 


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00:55:53,717 --> 00:55:54,099

 

Anja: class.

 

 


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00:55:54,511 --> 00:55:57,111

 

Anja: I am my husband doesn't vary into yoga, but

 

 


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00:55:57,192 --> 00:55:59,663

 

Anja: I signed me and him up for a class.

 

 


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00:55:59,703 --> 00:56:01,310

 

Anja: That's once a week and it's super simple.

 

 


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00:56:01,432 --> 00:56:03,914

 

Anja: It's it's yin yoga, so it's much more of

 

 


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00:56:03,934 --> 00:56:06,141

 

Anja: like a deeper stretch yoga.

 

 


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00:56:06,533 --> 00:56:07,550

 

Anja: It doesn't, you don't sweat as much.

 

 


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00:56:07,690 --> 00:56:11,200

 

Anja: It's more like a deep stretch and he really

 

 


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00:56:11,260 --> 00:56:14,467

 

Anja: loves it and it's new for him, but he's

 

 


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00:56:14,527 --> 00:56:14,890

 

Anja: enjoying it.

 

 


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Anja: So I think, yeah, maybe if you push

 

 


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00:56:16,545 --> 00:56:17,070

 

Anja: yourself to sign up.

 

 


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Marc: Well, one of the reasons I told my kids

 

 


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00:56:18,776 --> 00:56:20,835

 

Marc: that I, that I wanted this destination to

 

 


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00:56:20,876 --> 00:56:23,376

 

Marc: live on, this, this island is I got let's

 

 


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Marc: see which direction I got the beach 600

 

 


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Marc: feet that way, I think, so I can just go.

 

 


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00:56:29,114 --> 00:56:30,309

 

Marc: You know, I got the beach like right there

 

 


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00:56:30,510 --> 00:56:32,357

 

Marc: so I can go out, walk every day, get some

 

 


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00:56:32,417 --> 00:56:36,015

 

Marc: exercise and and it's I just think it's

 

 


Speaker:

00:56:36,135 --> 00:56:38,371

 

Marc: being active becomes more and more Like.

 

 


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00:56:38,491 --> 00:56:39,937

 

Marc: you become aware of it because you can be

 

 


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00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:41,775

 

Marc: if I find myself being like.

 

 


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Marc: I'm been sedentary for a lot lately, a lot

 

 


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00:56:44,432 --> 00:56:46,510

 

Marc: of the time lately, so I need to get moved.

 

 


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Anja: Totally, it's so easy to be.

 

 


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Marc: Well, you mentioned, you know you, having a

 

 


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Marc: dog.

 

 


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Marc: I had a wonderful golden retriever Almost

 

 


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00:56:52,452 --> 00:56:54,397

 

Marc: exactly a year ago past and my heart's

 

 


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00:56:54,417 --> 00:56:56,030

 

Marc: still broken, you know, but we're still

 

 


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00:56:56,211 --> 00:56:57,299

 

Marc: we're starting to think about a puppy now,

 

 


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Marc: oh of course, oh, but thank you Now.

 

 


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Marc: But I I realized that having a dog keeps

 

 


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Marc: you far more active as well.

 

 


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Marc: Just that simple thing of getting out

 

 


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Marc: walking a few times a day, you know, going

 

 


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Marc: on adventures with your dog Absolutely.

 

 


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Anja: It does.

 

 


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Marc: I love it Now did you bring your dog on

 

 


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00:57:11,654 --> 00:57:12,517

 

Marc: your on your road trip?

 

 


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Anja: I did?

 

 


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Anja: Yeah, we did.

 

 


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Anja: He lived with us in New Mexico and he was

 

 


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Anja: still a puppy then, so it was kind of his

 

 


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00:57:19,776 --> 00:57:22,296

 

Anja: first home and the first time he saw snow.

 

 


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Marc: Oh, I think you put a picture on your

 

 


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00:57:24,196 --> 00:57:25,933

 

Marc: Instagram of him, I think when he was

 

 


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00:57:25,953 --> 00:57:26,757

 

Marc: sleeping or something.

 

 


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Anja: I did.

 

 


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Anja: He's super cute, his name's Ollie.

 

 


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Marc: Oh he is a cutie.

 

 


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00:57:31,634 --> 00:57:32,177

 

Marc: He is a cutie.

 

 


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Marc: I'm a big dog person.

 

 


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00:57:34,351 --> 00:57:34,816

 

Anja: Me too.

 

 


Speaker:

00:57:35,078 --> 00:57:36,430

 

Anja: I love dogs so much.

 

 


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00:57:36,571 --> 00:57:38,418

 

Anja: I wanted a dog ever since I was a kid.

 

 


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00:57:39,452 --> 00:57:42,115

 

Anja: We never had one growing up, so having one

 

 


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Anja: now is just it's a dream.

 

 


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Anja: I am so obsessed with him.

 

 


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00:57:46,536 --> 00:57:48,702

 

Anja: It's like too much that person.

 

 


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Anja: I try to keep the pictures to a minimum,

 

 


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00:57:51,070 --> 00:57:53,703

 

Anja: but I definitely like internally.

 

 


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Anja: I'm just so obsessed I.

 

 


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00:57:55,656 --> 00:57:57,150

 

Anja: It's so cool to live with an animal.

 

 


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Marc: Nope, I say, post all the pictures you want.

 

 


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00:57:59,871 --> 00:58:00,939

 

Marc: Dog people get it.

 

 


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00:58:01,261 --> 00:58:03,095

 

Marc: You know, with with my golden he would be

 

 


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00:58:03,116 --> 00:58:03,904

 

Marc: in the studio with me.

 

 


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00:58:03,925 --> 00:58:06,020

 

Marc: Yeah that's true, you know, and it, it, it.

 

 


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00:58:06,101 --> 00:58:06,947

 

Marc: I think I took it hard to read.

 

 


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00:58:06,987 --> 00:58:08,276

 

Marc: Even my kids and I know it wasn't.

 

 


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00:58:08,296 --> 00:58:09,707

 

Marc: They grew up with him from the time he was

 

 


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00:58:09,748 --> 00:58:11,194

 

Marc: a little puppy and I wanted them to have a

 

 


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00:58:11,636 --> 00:58:14,233

 

Marc: dog but, I, was realizing he was only 10,

 

 


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Marc: which is kind of young.

 

 


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Marc: You know for my experience with dogs.

 

 


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Anja: I was just young and goldens are so lovely.

 

 


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00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:23,091

 

Marc: They're puppies their whole life, but

 

 


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00:58:23,111 --> 00:58:25,807

 

Marc: they're also very very noble and very

 

 


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00:58:25,868 --> 00:58:27,757

 

Marc: intelligent, smarter than me in many

 

 


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00:58:27,797 --> 00:58:28,219

 

Marc: regards.

 

 


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00:58:28,279 --> 00:58:30,610

 

Marc: You know he was and beautiful.

 

 


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00:58:30,791 --> 00:58:32,564

 

Marc: Yeah, the only the only downside and

 

 


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00:58:32,584 --> 00:58:33,511

 

Marc: there's not really a downside, just

 

 


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00:58:33,557 --> 00:58:34,975

 

Marc: something you have to prepare yourself for

 

 


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00:58:35,021 --> 00:58:36,223

 

Marc: and you have a golden Is she need a really

 

 


Speaker:

00:58:36,291 --> 00:58:37,228

 

Marc: good vacuum cleaner.

 

 


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00:58:37,370 --> 00:58:38,415

 

Marc: They shed like crazy.

 

 


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00:58:38,676 --> 00:58:40,723

 

Marc: You know, Anybody has a golden is me like

 

 


Speaker:

00:58:40,743 --> 00:58:41,288

 

Marc: hell, yeah, yeah.

 

 


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00:58:41,712 --> 00:58:43,930

 

Marc: It's just, we're moving and he's, he's past

 

 


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00:58:44,091 --> 00:58:45,928

 

Marc: and we're still finding somehow there are

 

 


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00:58:45,948 --> 00:58:47,774

 

Marc: little bits of his hair have shown up here,

 

 


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00:58:48,198 --> 00:58:49,430

 

Marc: 700 something miles away.

 

 


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Announcer: So it's you know anything, that that's.

 

 


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00:58:52,411 --> 00:58:55,140

 

Marc: I have some components of my studio sound

 

 


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00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,417

 

Marc: booth that rely on some of the corners,

 

 


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00:58:57,437 --> 00:58:57,979

 

Marc: like Velcro.

 

 


Speaker:

00:58:58,931 --> 00:58:59,895

 

Marc: There are little bits of his hair.

 

 


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00:58:59,915 --> 00:59:00,577

 

Marc: They caught in the Velcro.

 

 


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Anja: Yeah, oh there.

 

 


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00:59:01,433 --> 00:59:03,039

 

Anja: I'm sure there's hair in there forever.

 

 


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00:59:03,391 --> 00:59:04,255

 

Anja: You'll never get that out.

 

 


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00:59:04,570 --> 00:59:06,277

 

Anja: That's the glitter that you get from the

 

 


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00:59:06,317 --> 00:59:06,618

 

Anja: dogs.

 

 


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Marc: Puppy yes, indeed.

 

 


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00:59:09,511 --> 00:59:11,658

 

Marc: Now the last couple of questions I got for

 

 


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00:59:11,699 --> 00:59:14,076

 

Marc: you is if you weren't doing this, if you

 

 


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00:59:14,136 --> 00:59:17,881

 

Marc: weren't on camera enjoying, riding, doing

 

 


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00:59:17,901 --> 00:59:19,377

 

Marc: the thing creatively you're doing, what

 

 


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00:59:19,438 --> 00:59:20,270

 

Marc: else would you be doing?

 

 


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00:59:20,391 --> 00:59:21,415

 

Marc: Could you see yourself doing?

 

 


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Anja: That's a good question.

 

 


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00:59:25,271 --> 00:59:27,232

 

Anja: Also, I think when I was little I would

 

 


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Anja: have answered marine biologist, because

 

 


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Anja: everybody I know wanted to be a marine

 

 


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00:59:31,613 --> 00:59:32,898

 

Anja: biologist for some reason.

 

 


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Anja: But I think now, if I could already have

 

 


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00:59:38,341 --> 00:59:41,978

 

Anja: like the credentials behind me, I think I'd

 

 


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00:59:41,998 --> 00:59:44,270

 

Anja: want to be something connected to like

 

 


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00:59:45,092 --> 00:59:51,303

 

Anja: space or like astronomy or something to do

 

 


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Anja: with just what's out there.

 

 


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Anja: That's very cool.

 

 


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Marc: I mean there's a lot of wonder out there,

 

 


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00:59:58,092 --> 01:00:00,562

 

Marc: there's a lot of the unknown which makes it

 

 


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01:00:01,426 --> 01:00:02,410

 

Marc: like cool contemplation.

 

 


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Marc: But to actually, like you said, be

 

 


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Marc: credentialed, I spoke with Neil deGrasse

 

 


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Marc: Tyson some time ago last year.

 

 


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Anja: I was like what a cool job I saw that, I

 

 


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Anja: just think that's such a he came to mind,

 

 


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Anja: when I was just thinking that I mean here's

 

 


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Anja: somebody who studied the thing but still

 

 


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Anja: has some aspect of wonder to it.

 

 


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Marc: I'm like what?

 

 


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01:00:18,986 --> 01:00:21,262

 

Announcer: a cool gig, and that's why I'm so

 

 


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01:00:21,282 --> 01:00:22,570

 

Announcer: infinitely jazzed to drive down.

 

 


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Marc: It's called Boca Chica Park.

 

 


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Marc: Well, it used to be a park.

 

 


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Marc: That's where SpaceX is located.

 

 


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Marc: Starbase is the name of the place.

 

 


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Marc: So cool and everybody I know I haven't seen

 

 


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Marc: a launch yet, because the last one happened

 

 


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Marc: right before we moved here.

 

 


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Marc: But they said you stand there and you

 

 


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Marc: actually can feel the vibrations in your

 

 


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01:00:41,035 --> 01:00:43,479

 

Marc: chest of the rocket taken off, Like how

 

 


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Marc: cool is that?

 

 


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Marc: Wow.

 

 


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Marc: But, even when it exploded you could hear

 

 


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Marc: I've watched some video of it People were

 

 


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Marc: like cheering because the explosion looked

 

 


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Marc: really cool.

 

 


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Marc: But I've been watching, I've been kind of

 

 


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Marc: nerding out.

 

 


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Marc: There's a I'll give you my free little plug

 

 


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01:00:56,758 --> 01:00:56,939

 

Marc: here.

 

 


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01:00:57,903 --> 01:00:59,669

 

Marc: It's called WAI, what about it?

 

 


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01:01:00,638 --> 01:01:01,547

 

Marc: I think there are these guys that follow

 

 


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01:01:01,567 --> 01:01:03,843

 

Marc: what's going on and I'm kind of learning

 

 


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01:01:03,903 --> 01:01:06,161

 

Marc: about the whole SpaceX ecosystem through

 

 


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01:01:06,181 --> 01:01:06,908

 

Marc: these guys on YouTube.

 

 


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01:01:06,929 --> 01:01:07,070

 

Marc: So cool.

 

 


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Marc: And they're talking about what's going on

 

 


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01:01:08,877 --> 01:01:10,250

 

Marc: and I can go out my door, drive my car.

 

 


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01:01:10,553 --> 01:01:12,010

 

Marc: My daughter and I take a drive and I'll see

 

 


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01:01:12,391 --> 01:01:13,695

 

Marc: we have to cross a bridge to get into

 

 


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01:01:13,756 --> 01:01:15,763

 

Marc: what's called Port Isabel and we're driving

 

 


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Marc: over the bridge.

 

 


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Marc: You can see the launch tower, the lights

 

 


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01:01:18,844 --> 01:01:20,030

 

Marc: that blink for aircraft.

 

 


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Marc: You know it's cool.

 

 


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Marc: I mean I kind of nerd out on it.

 

 


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01:01:22,601 --> 01:01:24,517

 

Marc: I get I turn into a kid all over again

 

 


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Marc: about anything's space.

 

 


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Marc: But hey, you never know, Maybe one day plan

 

 


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Marc: when you know they're.

 

 


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Marc: They said eventually they're going to get

 

 


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Marc: to, I think, 12 launches a month, which is

 

 


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Marc: just going to be crazy cool.

 

 


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Anja: So that's really cool.

 

 


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Marc: So would you ever be an astronaut, though?

 

 


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Marc: If you were given the opportunity and

 

 


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Marc: somebody said you can go on our next space

 

 


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Marc: station we're launching for three months,

 

 


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01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:45,062

 

Marc: would you do it?

 

 


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Anja: It's funny because I was going to ask you

 

 


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Anja: that and I don't know if I'd have the guts.

 

 


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01:01:51,151 --> 01:01:52,175

 

Anja: I think that is.

 

 


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01:01:52,730 --> 01:01:55,556

 

Anja: Those people are so brave to just go out

 

 


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01:01:55,717 --> 01:01:58,663

 

Anja: and deal with no gravity and float around

 

 


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01:01:58,743 --> 01:02:02,596

 

Anja: and drink their water in those weird

 

 


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01:02:02,656 --> 01:02:03,218

 

Anja: droplets.

 

 


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01:02:03,532 --> 01:02:06,449

 

Anja: I don't, I don't know how the human body

 

 


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01:02:06,489 --> 01:02:07,393

 

Anja: can even be there.

 

 


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01:02:07,565 --> 01:02:08,630

 

Anja: I don't understand it.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:08,865 --> 01:02:09,870

 

Anja: I don't want to be there.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:10,507 --> 01:02:11,471

 

Marc: I would do it just because.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:11,531 --> 01:02:13,088

 

Marc: I'm in this phase, like if I was younger

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:13,128 --> 01:02:13,510

 

Marc: I'd be like well.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:13,530 --> 01:02:14,213

 

Announcer: I got kids.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:14,505 --> 01:02:15,429

 

Marc: I want to make sure you know they're

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:15,449 --> 01:02:15,810

 

Marc: growing up.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:16,385 --> 01:02:17,490

 

Marc: Now I'm in a phase of my life.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:18,045 --> 01:02:20,674

 

Marc: I just turned 50 last year and I was like

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:21,145 --> 01:02:22,712

 

Marc: you know I want life experiences.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:22,825 --> 01:02:24,865

 

Marc: If somebody offered me that opportunity and

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:24,906 --> 01:02:26,812

 

Marc: it was legit, you know, and it was like,

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:27,525 --> 01:02:28,228

 

Marc: and I was like, you know, what.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:29,485 --> 01:02:30,047

 

Marc: Carpe diem.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:30,248 --> 01:02:32,767

 

Marc: You know I might as well do it, but you're

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:32,808 --> 01:02:32,948

 

Marc: right.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:33,465 --> 01:02:35,631

 

Marc: I also, on the other end of the scale, am a

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:36,173 --> 01:02:36,915

 

Marc: appreciation.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:37,225 --> 01:02:38,269

 

Marc: I have a lot of appreciation for

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:40,649

 

Marc: convenience and just something as simple as

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:40,689 --> 01:02:41,993

 

Marc: the showering which you can't do.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:42,225 --> 01:02:44,592

 

Marc: You're just kind of giving yourself a towel

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:44,612 --> 01:02:46,369

 

Marc: bath every day, I think after a while.

 

 


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01:02:46,429 --> 01:02:47,950

 

Marc: I think I don't know how those people were

 

 


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01:02:47,991 --> 01:02:50,132

 

Marc: up there for like a year plus, you know.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:50,505 --> 01:02:52,272

 

Anja: How do, like the organs function?

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:52,505 --> 01:02:54,332

 

Anja: How does how is anything working?

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:54,485 --> 01:02:55,873

 

Anja: I don't understand.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:55,925 --> 01:02:57,049

 

Anja: How is the blood moving?

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:57,330 --> 01:02:57,913

 

Anja: I don't get it.

 

 


Speaker:

01:02:58,125 --> 01:02:58,968

 

Anja: I don't understand.

 

 


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01:03:00,608 --> 01:03:02,227

 

Marc: It can't be good for you, I mean you have

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:02,288 --> 01:03:05,690

 

Marc: to have a certain amount of exercise every

 

 


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Marc: day, you know.

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:09,289 --> 01:03:09,670

 

Marc: But you know.

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:09,770 --> 01:03:12,108

 

Marc: Actually, a little nerd note for you, and I

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:12,148 --> 01:03:14,315

 

Marc: guess you would, next to Neil deGrasse

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:14,385 --> 01:03:15,429

 

Marc: Tyson, the only guest who would really

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:15,449 --> 01:03:15,991

 

Marc: appreciate it.

 

 


Speaker:

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Marc: I found out that they said that when, when

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:20,089 --> 01:03:21,826

 

Marc: your circadian rhythm, your clock is based

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:21,866 --> 01:03:24,250

 

Marc: on 24 hours down here, because you know 24

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:24,310 --> 01:03:26,672

 

Marc: hours on Earth, but when you go into space,

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:26,785 --> 01:03:30,815

 

Marc: your circadian rhythm recalibrates to 24.9

 

 


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01:03:31,717 --> 01:03:34,952

 

Marc: hours a day, which is the rotation of Mars.

 

 


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01:03:35,173 --> 01:03:36,769

 

Marc: So that's why they, that's why some of the

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:36,789 --> 01:03:38,068

 

Marc: people theoretically are going.

 

 


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01:03:38,449 --> 01:03:41,066

 

Marc: It's possible we came from Mars, you know,

 

 


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01:03:41,086 --> 01:03:42,331

 

Marc: and see here people talking about stuff

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:42,371 --> 01:03:42,652

 

Marc: like that.

 

 


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01:03:42,785 --> 01:03:43,990

 

Marc: It just kind of adds a little wonder in

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:44,031 --> 01:03:45,771

 

Marc: there, like why, when you're in space,

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:45,965 --> 01:03:46,868

 

Marc: would you adjust?

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:47,550 --> 01:03:48,734

 

Marc: I don't know how accurate that is.

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:48,865 --> 01:03:51,668

 

Marc: It's fun to contemplate, but have you, did

 

 


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01:03:51,708 --> 01:03:52,190

 

Marc: you see?

 

 


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01:03:53,125 --> 01:03:54,871

 

Anja: did you see that NASA discovered another

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:54,932 --> 01:03:57,692

 

Anja: planet that's like seven times bigger than

 

 


Speaker:

01:03:57,792 --> 01:04:02,675

 

Anja: Earth and it has water, and basically, what

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:02,735 --> 01:04:03,357

 

Anja: is that about?

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:03,565 --> 01:04:04,590

 

Anja: That's insane.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:04,945 --> 01:04:06,290

 

Anja: How are we not all talking about that?

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:07,265 --> 01:04:10,648

 

Anja: Screw Mars, yeah, they're like, let's go

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:10,728 --> 01:04:10,990

 

Anja: there.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:11,185 --> 01:04:11,750

 

Anja: What are we doing?

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:12,396 --> 01:04:12,961

 

Marc: There was, I told you.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:12,981 --> 01:04:14,750

 

Marc: I told you I was speaking with Shoray

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:14,790 --> 01:04:15,312

 

Marc: Agdashlu.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:15,445 --> 01:04:16,629

 

Marc: I don't did you ever see a TV show?

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:17,865 --> 01:04:19,090

 

Marc: The Expanse, by any chance.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:19,665 --> 01:04:21,752

 

Anja: No, but I know of it, I know of it.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:22,173 --> 01:04:22,735

 

Marc: Oh, you must.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:22,885 --> 01:04:24,632

 

Marc: Okay, I'm telling you that's gotta be on

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:24,652 --> 01:04:24,953

 

Marc: your reading.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:25,045 --> 01:04:26,446

 

Marc: I told Neil deGrasse Tyson that he said it

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:26,486 --> 01:04:28,172

 

Marc: was on his list of things to watch, but he

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:28,192 --> 01:04:29,387

 

Marc: hadn't watched it because we were talking

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:29,407 --> 01:04:32,431

 

Marc: about which movie got it mostly right when

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:32,451 --> 01:04:34,348

 

Marc: it came to sci-fi, and I think he mentioned

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:34,368 --> 01:04:35,492

 

Marc: the Martian with Matt Damon.

 

 


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01:04:35,645 --> 01:04:35,946

 

Anja: Cool.

 

 


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01:04:36,007 --> 01:04:37,132

 

Anja: Yeah, I heard he did a great job.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:38,228 --> 01:04:42,839

 

Marc: But this it's a realistic view into the

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:42,879 --> 01:04:43,180

 

Marc: future.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:43,425 --> 01:04:45,573

 

Marc: You know what two 300 years would we be

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:45,593 --> 01:04:45,774

 

Marc: doing?

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:45,865 --> 01:04:47,905

 

Marc: You'd have people who've colonized Mars but

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:47,925 --> 01:04:49,191

 

Marc: you'd have people living in the asteroid

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:49,231 --> 01:04:50,831

 

Marc: belt because they do the mining and stuff.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:50,905 --> 01:04:52,571

 

Marc: So you're starting to look at human nature

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:52,611 --> 01:04:54,589

 

Marc: and culture shot through the lens of

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:56,354 --> 01:04:58,208

 

Marc: something sci-fi, and it's very.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:58,629 --> 01:04:59,874

 

Marc: It seems so plausible.

 

 


Speaker:

01:04:59,985 --> 01:05:01,385

 

Marc: It doesn't really seem like sci-fi, it's

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:01,405 --> 01:05:05,008

 

Marc: kind of like what if you know, Anyway, I

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:05,028 --> 01:05:07,015

 

Marc: mean I don't know if I've ever nerded out

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:07,125 --> 01:05:08,905

 

Marc: besides talking Neil deGrasse Tyson, but

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:09,126 --> 01:05:09,447

 

Marc: there you go.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:09,467 --> 01:05:10,792

 

Marc: It's a little bit of my nerdness for you.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:11,105 --> 01:05:12,129

 

Anja: No, that's fun.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:12,865 --> 01:05:14,030

 

Anja: I'm getting more into sci-fi.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:14,726 --> 01:05:16,192

 

Marc: It is so well, it's well written.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:16,967 --> 01:05:19,234

 

Marc: The act, the ensemble, the cast, I think

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:19,274 --> 01:05:19,795

 

Marc: it's so well.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:19,925 --> 01:05:22,127

 

Marc: It's everything about it so well done and

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:22,769 --> 01:05:24,614

 

Marc: you know season to see, and it's based off

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:24,655 --> 01:05:24,915

 

Marc: a book.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:25,065 --> 01:05:26,906

 

Marc: So some of my nerd friends are like but did

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:26,926 --> 01:05:27,609

 

Marc: you read the books?

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:27,891

 

Marc: Though?

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:28,165 --> 01:05:30,292

 

Marc: You know I was like, no, I'm too lazy for

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:30,332 --> 01:05:30,473

 

Marc: that.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:31,105 --> 01:05:32,968

 

Anja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, You're like the show's

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:33,008 --> 01:05:33,249

 

Anja: enough.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:34,005 --> 01:05:35,612

 

Marc: But you know, if you had the opportunity,

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:35,685 --> 01:05:37,991

 

Marc: you'd be working in astrophysics and in

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:38,031 --> 01:05:38,733

 

Marc: that ecosystem.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:38,773 --> 01:05:39,435

 

Marc: That's very cool.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:39,455 --> 01:05:40,056

 

Marc: That's very cool.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:40,565 --> 01:05:42,633

 

Anja: Oh God, yeah, that would be fascinating.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:42,705 --> 01:05:44,071

 

Anja: I mean, I don't know if I have the smarts

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:44,131 --> 01:05:46,110

 

Anja: for it, but if I could have the smarts for

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:47,674

 

Anja: it and the credentials, that would be it

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:47,715 --> 01:05:47,995

 

Anja: for sure.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:48,165 --> 01:05:49,329

 

Marc: You know, that's the thing that held me

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:49,370 --> 01:05:51,028

 

Marc: back math, you know so.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:51,645 --> 01:05:53,633

 

Anja: Math is so hard, math is the worst.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:53,805 --> 01:05:55,210

 

Marc: My daughter, like one of them, was talking

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:55,231 --> 01:05:56,868

 

Marc: about trigonometry and all that, and I

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:56,888 --> 01:05:58,333

 

Marc: don't want to let on how dumb their dad is

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:58,385 --> 01:05:59,461

 

Marc: when it comes to math.

 

 


Speaker:

01:05:59,785 --> 01:06:02,026

 

Marc: There's a certain point where I ask him do

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:02,046 --> 01:06:02,910

 

Marc: you need any help with that?

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:02,965 --> 01:06:04,571

 

Marc: And they almost want to pat me on the head

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:04,611 --> 01:06:06,047

 

Marc: like, oh, bless your heart, you know you're

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:06,227 --> 01:06:07,532

 

Marc: not going to be able to help me you know.

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:07,905 --> 01:06:09,831

 

Anja: But math is one of those things that once

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:10,553 --> 01:06:12,750

 

Anja: you lose track of where you are and the

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:12,790 --> 01:06:14,287

 

Anja: teacher is moving ahead, you're kind of

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:14,327 --> 01:06:15,191

 

Anja: screwed, you know.

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:15,466 --> 01:06:16,625

 

Anja: So that's the problem.

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:16,685 --> 01:06:19,088

 

Marc: Yeah, pretty much that you defined every

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:19,128 --> 01:06:20,873

 

Marc: math class I was in from the time I was in

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:20,914 --> 01:06:21,435

 

Marc: ninth grade.

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:21,665 --> 01:06:24,374

 

Marc: You know it's like, OK, I can't hit pause

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:24,414 --> 01:06:25,850

 

Marc: or rewind, it's just moving forward.

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:26,145 --> 01:06:28,486

 

Marc: Yeah, and they're not going to yeah, no

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:28,526 --> 01:06:30,433

 

Marc: tutoring is going to help this disaster

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:30,493 --> 01:06:33,147

 

Marc: area, but Too far gone.

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:33,985 --> 01:06:35,450

 

Marc: The last question I got for you if you were

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:35,470 --> 01:06:38,306

 

Marc: to jump in a DeLorean, go back in time and

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:38,346 --> 01:06:39,953

 

Marc: you travel back when you're 16 years old

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:40,065 --> 01:06:41,566

 

Marc: and you have a piece of advice, you have a

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:41,586 --> 01:06:43,994

 

Marc: moment with yourself to either put yourself

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:44,065 --> 01:06:46,734

 

Marc: on a better or a different track you think

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:46,754 --> 01:06:49,332

 

Marc: would be great, or to make your moment at

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:49,352 --> 01:06:50,275

 

Marc: 16 a little bit better.

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:50,405 --> 01:06:53,292

 

Marc: What would that advice be for younger Anya?

 

 


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01:06:55,625 --> 01:06:58,313

 

Anja: I think it would be don't be so hard on

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:58,353 --> 01:06:58,734

 

Anja: yourself.

 

 


Speaker:

01:06:59,845 --> 01:07:01,570

 

Anja: I think when we're really young, we're

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:03,095 --> 01:07:06,995

 

Anja: always trying to be adult also and figure

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:07,035 --> 01:07:07,596

 

Anja: everything out.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:07,785 --> 01:07:09,772

 

Anja: And I think I was just really hard on

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:09,812 --> 01:07:12,630

 

Anja: myself and I think that's the advice I'd

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:12,650 --> 01:07:15,878

 

Anja: give any teenager is just you are who you

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:16,038 --> 01:07:18,028

 

Anja: are, you're trying your best, you'll figure

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:18,088 --> 01:07:18,389

 

Anja: it out.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:18,785 --> 01:07:20,249

 

Anja: Don't stress so much about the future.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:22,295 --> 01:07:22,696

 

Anja: Chill out.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:22,925 --> 01:07:23,528

 

Anja: Chill out a bit.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:24,345 --> 01:07:25,791

 

Marc: Yeah, unfortunately don't have the wisdom

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:25,851 --> 01:07:28,432

 

Marc: at that age to realize this too shall pass.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:29,726 --> 01:07:32,205

 

Anja: Yes, just that, even so simple right.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:32,345 --> 01:07:33,790

 

Marc: If you knew it at that age, it would make

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:35,815

 

Marc: so many things so much easier.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:36,125 --> 01:07:37,391

 

Marc: There's a friend of mine who does.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:37,645 --> 01:07:40,869

 

Marc: He's an acting coach and he has a book

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:42,111 --> 01:07:44,496

 

Marc: called If you Survive Seventh Grade, you

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:44,536 --> 01:07:44,977

 

Marc: Can Act.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:45,158 --> 01:07:46,307

 

Marc: I think it's the name, but I know I'm

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:46,387 --> 01:07:51,410

 

Marc: mangling up the name of it, that idea of

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:51,470 --> 01:07:54,016

 

Marc: the awkwardness, everything going on in

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:54,056 --> 01:07:54,557

 

Marc: that moment.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:54,905 --> 01:07:56,852

 

Marc: If you knew for a fact, things are going to

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:56,872 --> 01:07:57,253

 

Marc: get better.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:57,825 --> 01:07:58,548

 

Marc: It's not a big deal.

 

 


Speaker:

01:07:59,545 --> 01:08:00,490

 

Marc: Oh, that would be so much.

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:01,007 --> 01:08:02,352

 

Marc: But you're living in an opposite world

 

 


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01:08:02,392 --> 01:08:03,568

 

Marc: where everything's like dramatic.

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:04,305 --> 01:08:06,112

 

Anja: Oh God, yeah, especially at that age.

 

 


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Marc: But I so appreciate you taking time,

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:09,994 --> 01:08:11,137

 

Marc: spending some time with me today.

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:11,185 --> 01:08:12,149

 

Marc: It means a lot.

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:12,330 --> 01:08:12,972

 

Marc: It's so much fun.

 

 


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01:08:13,105 --> 01:08:14,331

 

Marc: I enjoyed chatting in it.

 

 


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01:08:14,565 --> 01:08:17,144

 

Marc: So nice to know there's another space nerd

 

 


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01:08:17,165 --> 01:08:18,712

 

Marc: who likes Alan Watts out there in the world.

 

 


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01:08:18,785 --> 01:08:19,750

 

Marc: It makes me feel good.

 

 


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Anja: Absolutely.

 

 


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01:08:20,989 --> 01:08:21,912

 

Anja: Thank you for having me.

 

 


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01:08:21,952 --> 01:08:22,795

 

Anja: I really enjoyed this.

 

 


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Marc: Hopefully we'll have a chance to connect

 

 


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Marc: down the line Anything I can do for you

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:26,589 --> 01:08:27,773

 

Marc: down the line, any new projects.

 

 


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01:08:28,225 --> 01:08:31,014

 

Marc: When you come out with that movie about the

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:31,054 --> 01:08:33,507

 

Marc: stalker the radio stalker I want to be

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:33,527 --> 01:08:34,711

 

Marc: sitting in theater eating popcorn going.

 

 


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01:08:35,265 --> 01:08:36,570

 

Marc: I know where she got that idea from.

 

 


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Anja: I'll make sure you're there at the premiere.

 

 


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Anja: Yeah, straight to offer, straight to offer.

 

 


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Marc: Well, you have a wonderful rest of your

 

 


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Marc: week and hopefully we'll have a chance to

 

 


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01:08:45,288 --> 01:08:45,850

 

Marc: catch up soon.

 

 


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Anja: Thank you, Marc.

 

 


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01:08:46,965 --> 01:08:48,090

 

Anja: This was lovely to chat.

 

 


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01:08:48,145 --> 01:08:49,149

 

Marc: And hopefully we'll see you down here for a

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:50,906

 

Marc: launch one day, that's wonderful, you know,

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:50,926 --> 01:08:52,311

 

Marc: I'm going to dork out if I can come.

 

 


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01:08:52,793 --> 01:08:54,349

 

Anja: Ok bye, ok bye.

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:55,372 --> 01:08:56,054

 

Marc: All right, there you go.

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:56,446 --> 01:08:59,628

 

Marc: Anya Savchich Really enjoyed chatting with

 

 


Speaker:

01:08:59,668 --> 01:08:59,769

 

Marc: her.

 

 


Speaker:

01:09:00,090 --> 01:09:01,774

 

Marc: A fellow nerd, I dig it.

 

 


Speaker:

01:09:02,035 --> 01:09:02,416

 

Marc: I dig it.

 

 


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01:09:02,885 --> 01:09:04,372

 

Marc: Make sure, if you haven't done so already,

 

 


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01:09:04,525 --> 01:09:07,694

 

Marc: check out Louder Milk on Netflix A great

 

 


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01:09:07,735 --> 01:09:07,935

 

Marc: show.

 

 


Speaker:

01:09:08,325 --> 01:09:09,611

 

Marc: Always enjoyed Ron Livingston.

 

 


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01:09:09,885 --> 01:09:11,907

 

Marc: Whatever he's selling, I'm buying Love Ron

 

 


Speaker:

01:09:11,927 --> 01:09:12,390

 

Marc: Livingston.

 

 


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01:09:13,085 --> 01:09:15,331

 

Marc: Of course Anya is in the new movie Ricky

 

 


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01:09:15,512 --> 01:09:17,236

 

Marc: Stanicki Great movie.

 

 


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01:09:17,465 --> 01:09:19,050

 

Marc: I'm going to check it out with my daughter,

 

 


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01:09:19,150 --> 01:09:21,730

 

Marc: emma, tonight when she gets back home from

 

 


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Marc: work.

 

 


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01:09:22,045 --> 01:09:23,290

 

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Marc: shooting me some notes, checking in while

 

 


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01:09:50,106 --> 01:09:52,225

 

Marc: we were on hiatus, doing the big move and

 

 


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01:09:52,245 --> 01:09:53,149

 

Marc: getting set up here.

 

 


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01:09:54,366 --> 01:09:56,814

 

Marc: And that's it from the beautiful sunny

 

 


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01:09:56,854 --> 01:09:59,412

 

Marc: beaches of South Padre Island that are

 

 


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01:09:59,453 --> 01:10:01,552

 

Marc: currently loaded with spring breakers.

 

 


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01:10:01,925 --> 01:10:03,913

 

Marc: So I'm going to go out and grab a beverage

 

 


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01:10:04,005 --> 01:10:05,630

 

Marc: and watch the mayhem.

 

 


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01:10:07,265 --> 01:10:08,630

 

Marc: Oh, to be young again, right?

 

 


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01:10:08,791 --> 01:10:11,191

 

Marc: Ok, have yourself a great one.

 

 


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