On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with talented actor, Anja Savcic. She can currently be seen in the new Prime Video movie, "Ricky Stanicky." Listen in as Anya opens up about her experiences on set with John Cena, Zac Efron, Andrew Santino and Jermaine Fowler, as well as Anja’s roots in Vancouver, Canada and Sarajevo.
We also peek behind the curtain of her experience working on multiple projects with writer, director and comedy legend, Peter Farrelly. Anja also discusses her experience working on the Netflix show, "Loudermilk", along with comedic and independent film icon, Ron Livingston. We also touch on the charm and vibe of working with a cast of American actors while shooting “Ricky Stanicky” in Melbourne, Australia.
Finally, we explore Anja’s personal passions and ponder life's simpler pleasures…from dream coffee dates with intellectual icons, to the rejuvenating power of yoga…as well as the NASA discoveries, the space program and our collective appreciation of sci-fi. Anja Savcic is not only a great comedic storyteller, but she has a unique story of her own…one that we explore on this episode of Story and Craft.
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
0:03:34 - Home in Vancouver (49 Seconds)
0:11:03 - Experiences working on Netflix’s “Loudermilk”
0:18:17 - Filming “Ricky Stanicky” in Melbourne, Australia
0:28:21 - Reflections on Personal Growth and Influence
0:29:40 - Creative Pursuits and Travel Adventures
0:34:39 - Discovering Westerns Through Good Storytelling (28 Seconds)
0:41:21 - Admiration for Alan Watts
0:51:45 - Radio, Yoga, and Dog Talk
0:52:18 - Radio Personalities
01:02:33 - Sci-Fi Nerd Chat
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Anja:
Did you see that NASA discovered another
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Anja: What is that about?
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Anja: That's insane.
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Anja: How are we not all talking about that?
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Anja: Screw Mars.
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Anja: They're like, let's go there.
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Announcer: What are we doing?
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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.
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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.
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Marc: All right, here we go.
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Marc: Another episode of Story and Craft.
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Marc: Glad to have you back.
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Marc: I'm Marc Preston.
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Marc: If this is your first time, welcome.
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Marc: Louder Milk you might know her from the
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Marc: Today is Anya Savchich Day, right here on
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Marc: How are you doing this afternoon?
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Anja: I'm doing great Not much Preparing for the
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Marc: Well, is this something you decide yourself?
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Marc: Now, when is the premiere going to be?
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Anja: Our premiere is March 5th.
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Marc: Okay, it's my oldest daughter's birthday.
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Anja: Congratulations, that's fun.
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Anja: Yeah, it's so funny.
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Marc: Okay, okay, can you still call Canada home?
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Marc: But this last year I just kind of checked
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Anja: Well, I think, you know, sometimes we film
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Anja: Totally.
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Anja: So no worries, where did you move?
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Marc: A little place called South Pottery Island,
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Anja: That is so cool.
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Marc: the green book, and he brought me back in
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Marc: and I was like, oh, you know those
481
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Marc: callbacks, they feel good because you feel
482
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Marc: like you've almost booked it.
483
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Marc: You know you got a callback of course and
484
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Marc: he was he's, he was looking and it was the
485
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Marc: longest audition I think I've ever done is
486
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Marc: about almost shy 10 minutes, which is and
487
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Marc: oh, you said, listen, I just don't see for
488
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Marc: this character.
489
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Marc: I was like I was gonna say thanks.
490
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Marc: So much, just a chance to audition for the
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Marc: guy that Directed.
492
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Marc: You know something about.
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Announcer: Mary come on.
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Marc: You know, but he said but, and he hands me
495
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Marc: some sides.
496
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Marc: He's correct, god in the hall.
497
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Marc: I want you to work on this character.
498
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Marc: I was like, oh, you see me for another
499
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Marc: character.
500
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Marc: I'm saying this internally, you know.
501
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Marc: And then the.
502
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Marc: You know I usually don't get a lot of
503
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Marc: nerves and auditions, but that's one of the
504
00:16:07,522 --> 00:16:09,208
Marc: first times I got nerves is like, oh, wait
505
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Marc: a minute.
506
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Marc: But they ended up not casting me and won an
507
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Marc: Academy Award and that's kind of thing if
508
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Marc: you, if you don't cast me.
509
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Marc: Last one was Dallas buyers club.
510
00:16:17,286 --> 00:16:18,831
Marc: I remember I got really close to getting in.
511
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Marc: So it's sort of like you know don't cast me,
512
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Marc: bring me in for a callback.
513
00:16:23,895 --> 00:16:25,300
Marc: Don't cast me, you'll get an Academy Award.
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Anja: Right, oh my god, you should tell everybody
515
00:16:28,346 --> 00:16:29,909
Anja: but that wasn't really a funny movie.
516
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Marc: Obviously, there was some comedic notes to
517
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Marc: it.
518
00:16:32,681 --> 00:16:34,248
Marc: Yeah but he kind of floats back and forth,
519
00:16:35,323 --> 00:16:35,603
Marc: did he?
520
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Marc: Has he directed any episodes of ladder mill?
521
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Anja: He, he.
522
00:16:38,451 --> 00:16:43,161
Anja: So he was a co-creator with Bobby Mort, so
523
00:16:43,201 --> 00:16:45,407
Anja: him and Peter did the series together,
524
00:16:45,768 --> 00:16:48,602
Anja: wrote a lot of it together, and Peter
525
00:16:48,642 --> 00:16:51,169
Anja: directed the full first season and then for
526
00:16:51,209 --> 00:16:54,127
Anja: the second and third Peter and Bobby fairly
527
00:16:54,207 --> 00:16:57,392
Anja: shared the load, so it was a bit of both of
528
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Anja: them.
529
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Marc: That is very cool.
530
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Anja: Totally, and what's so cool about them as
531
00:17:01,244 --> 00:17:03,768
Anja: brothers is they're very different but they
532
00:17:03,849 --> 00:17:06,574
Anja: have the exact same viewpoints on pretty
533
00:17:06,594 --> 00:17:07,275
Anja: much everything.
534
00:17:07,822 --> 00:17:10,355
Anja: So it was basically like Peter was there
535
00:17:10,456 --> 00:17:12,405
Anja: when Bobby was there, so I think that's why
536
00:17:12,445 --> 00:17:13,670
Anja: the show feels very cohesive.
537
00:17:14,441 --> 00:17:14,922
Marc: Yeah, it does.
538
00:17:15,003 --> 00:17:16,928
Marc: It does because you know, working in TV,
539
00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:19,282
Marc: you have a different director every Episode
540
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Marc: a lot of times.
541
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Anja: Yeah, exactly, so that's kind of a gift to
542
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Anja: have the same guy every, every episode.
543
00:17:24,558 --> 00:17:25,180
Anja: Yeah, that's nice.
544
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Marc: What I'm curious about that.
545
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Marc: That's a great ensemble.
546
00:17:27,934 --> 00:17:28,397
Marc: It's fun.
547
00:17:28,457 --> 00:17:28,960
Marc: I enjoy it.
548
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Marc: I mean I'm glad I'm only a season and a
549
00:17:30,885 --> 00:17:32,530
Marc: half in because I still got more to enjoy
550
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Marc: for the first time.
551
00:17:33,902 --> 00:17:37,166
Marc: But Ricky's Stanicki is that how these are?
552
00:17:37,206 --> 00:17:38,308
Marc: Stanick Stanicki, right?
553
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Anja: Ricky Stanicki.
554
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Marc: Yeah, that's another Real interesting
555
00:17:42,443 --> 00:17:42,944
Marc: ensemble.
556
00:17:43,125 --> 00:17:45,010
Marc: How did that project kind of materialize
557
00:17:45,090 --> 00:17:45,391
Marc: for you?
558
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Anja: Yeah, well, I know they've been trying to
559
00:17:48,786 --> 00:17:51,896
Anja: make that movie for like ten years and they
560
00:17:51,916 --> 00:17:53,200
Anja: had a lot of different people attached.
561
00:17:53,541 --> 00:17:55,507
Anja: I think Jim Carrey at one point was meant
562
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Anja: to play Ricky Stanicki and then I guess
563
00:17:58,683 --> 00:18:00,508
Anja: finally the funding came through and they
564
00:18:00,528 --> 00:18:01,651
Anja: were able to make it.
565
00:18:01,752 --> 00:18:04,603
Anja: And yeah, it came through.
566
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Anja: I mean, I've known Peter for so long now,
567
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Anja: with working on ladder milk, and I've
568
00:18:09,925 --> 00:18:11,538
Anja: auditioned for some of his other projects
569
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Anja: as well, and this one just kind of felt
570
00:18:14,309 --> 00:18:16,237
Anja: like the right fit and it was also really
571
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Anja: exciting opportunity.
572
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Anja: We shot this in Australia, in Melbourne.
573
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Marc: Oh, really so it was.
574
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Anja: Yeah, that was a really Cool aspect of the
575
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Anja: project.
576
00:18:26,466 --> 00:18:29,082
Anja: I had never been there, and Traveling for
577
00:18:29,122 --> 00:18:30,948
Anja: work is always fun, especially for a movie
578
00:18:30,968 --> 00:18:33,062
Anja: where it's a shorter shoot, so it's not
579
00:18:33,082 --> 00:18:35,087
Anja: like you're there for a whole year or, you
580
00:18:35,127 --> 00:18:36,410
Anja: know, six months or something.
581
00:18:37,132 --> 00:18:40,066
Anja: So that really drew me in as well.
582
00:18:40,689 --> 00:18:43,090
Anja: So, yeah, I really enjoyed it.
583
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Anja: It was a great ensemble.
584
00:18:44,418 --> 00:18:47,025
Anja: There is Lots of time to bond.
585
00:18:47,446 --> 00:18:50,192
Anja: No one could leave because it's so far away
586
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Anja: from anything.
587
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Anja: So on the weekends we all got to hang out
588
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Anja: and, you know, get to know each other, and
589
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Anja: I think that made it really special.
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Marc: Yeah, my daughter is doing her gap year
591
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Marc: between she graduated early from high
592
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Marc: school and she's gonna go to college in the
593
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Marc: fall.
594
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Marc: But she's doing her gap year and just kind
595
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Marc: of hanging out with me.
596
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Marc: I said, you know, I've always wanted to do
597
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Marc: Like a kind of be an expat for like a year
598
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Marc: or two and Melbourne's the destination
599
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Marc: where I want to go.
600
00:19:14,989 --> 00:19:15,511
Marc: I just didn't.
601
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Marc: It was to go down there without having yet
602
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Marc: it was just, you know, me being
603
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Marc: self-employed, it was.
604
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Marc: It was there.
605
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Marc: Well, it was just a little bit too much
606
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Marc: stuff to get put together to make it happen.
607
00:19:25,241 --> 00:19:27,189
Marc: There's also a cost factor of shipping
608
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Marc: everything because I've got a recording
609
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Marc: studio.
610
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Marc: I've got to get it all down to Australia.
611
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Marc: Yeah you said I said let's just go next to
612
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Marc: the beach.
613
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Marc: But but Melbourne, and that that's kind of
614
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Marc: a I want to say is it?
615
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Marc: My rent says kind of artsy, not artsy, but
616
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Marc: it's sort of it's, it's definitely.
617
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Marc: I kind of liken it to the arts are part of
618
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Marc: the ecosystem, is that right?
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Anja: totally it's.
620
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Anja: It's a very bustling city.
621
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Anja: People are super social.
622
00:19:54,502 --> 00:19:55,811
Anja: There's lots of art everywhere.
623
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Anja: The architecture is amazing.
624
00:19:57,481 --> 00:19:59,340
Anja: They have like a lot of old and new things,
625
00:19:59,601 --> 00:20:01,887
Anja: but everything really melds nicely and I
626
00:20:01,907 --> 00:20:03,130
Anja: think we all fell in love with it.
627
00:20:03,170 --> 00:20:05,005
Anja: When we were there, everyone had a moment
628
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Anja: where they were kind of like damn, like I'd
629
00:20:06,652 --> 00:20:08,480
Anja: love to live here, it's just so far away,
630
00:20:09,824 --> 00:20:11,169
Anja: so far away from everything.
631
00:20:11,309 --> 00:20:14,107
Anja: But um, yeah, I don't know, maybe Australia
632
00:20:14,167 --> 00:20:15,071
Anja: is a little underrated.
633
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Marc: Maybe Australians like that, so not
634
00:20:16,777 --> 00:20:17,720
Marc: everybody comes down there.
635
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Anja: I think they might.
636
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Anja: Yeah, I mean, the only thing I could Think
637
00:20:22,743 --> 00:20:24,311
Anja: about when I thought of Australia was all
638
00:20:24,331 --> 00:20:26,180
Anja: the spiders and snakes and all that stuff.
639
00:20:26,301 --> 00:20:29,217
Anja: But honestly, being in a city, that's not
640
00:20:29,257 --> 00:20:32,825
Anja: really as as big of a deal, so I didn't
641
00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:34,068
Anja: really worry about that I.
642
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Marc: Forgot that Peter Fairley directed that as
643
00:20:42,752 --> 00:20:42,994
Marc: well.
644
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Marc: So you must have been kind of nice, you're
645
00:20:44,342 --> 00:20:46,474
Marc: like yes, uh, you know we're old friends,
646
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Marc: you know you had that shorthand.
647
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Marc: You know, you know that was part of my
648
00:20:50,174 --> 00:20:51,581
Marc: ignorance on the timeline here, but you
649
00:20:51,601 --> 00:20:53,651
Marc: were already doing louder milk before they
650
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Marc: went into production.
651
00:20:54,394 --> 00:20:55,540
Marc: On Ricky Stenicke, correct?
652
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Anja: Totally.
653
00:20:56,382 --> 00:20:58,005
Anja: We had already wrapped louder milk.
654
00:20:58,166 --> 00:21:00,130
Anja: Yeah, it had been a couple years since we
655
00:21:00,150 --> 00:21:05,044
Anja: had finished our last season and, yeah, he
656
00:21:05,324 --> 00:21:08,403
Anja: called me and I got that part and Got to
657
00:21:08,443 --> 00:21:10,009
Anja: see him again and it was just.
658
00:21:10,672 --> 00:21:12,359
Anja: It just felt right away like old times.
659
00:21:12,419 --> 00:21:14,304
Anja: You know, he is such a friendly guy and
660
00:21:14,364 --> 00:21:15,827
Anja: he's so easy to get along with and
661
00:21:15,867 --> 00:21:18,172
Anja: collaborate with and what's so cool is he's
662
00:21:18,192 --> 00:21:20,405
Anja: also a really Loyal person.
663
00:21:20,687 --> 00:21:22,374
Anja: If he likes you and he likes working with
664
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Anja: you, he wants to work with you again.
665
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Anja: So it was just nice to be back and feel so
666
00:21:26,713 --> 00:21:27,235
Anja: welcomed.
667
00:21:27,336 --> 00:21:30,194
Anja: And you know, I came in a week after they'd
668
00:21:30,214 --> 00:21:31,683
Anja: already started shooting, but everyone
669
00:21:31,703 --> 00:21:33,370
Anja: already knew who I was because he'd already
670
00:21:33,772 --> 00:21:35,499
Anja: told them that I was coming and that you
671
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,944
Anja: know I was great and all this stuff and I
672
00:21:36,964 --> 00:21:38,630
Anja: was like, oh, my god, it's so sweet.
673
00:21:38,790 --> 00:21:42,007
Anja: So, yeah, it was just a lovely shoot and I
674
00:21:42,027 --> 00:21:42,749
Anja: love working with him.
675
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Marc: He's a I'm curious how they ended up in
676
00:21:44,335 --> 00:21:46,283
Marc: Australia, though, was it was without
677
00:21:46,323 --> 00:21:47,125
Marc: giving anything away.
678
00:21:47,185 --> 00:21:49,409
Marc: Was Australia part of the story, or it just
679
00:21:49,449 --> 00:21:50,832
Marc: happened to be that that was a location
680
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Marc: that worked for?
681
00:21:51,901 --> 00:21:53,926
Anja: It has absolutely nothing to do with the
682
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Anja: story.
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00:21:54,768 --> 00:21:57,300
Anja: I think it was a tax break situation, I
684
00:21:57,321 --> 00:21:58,645
Anja: think it was just cheaper to shoot there
685
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Anja: and I think also people wanted to Be
686
00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:05,008
Anja: somewhere where it was sunny and and nice
687
00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:08,401
Anja: and it was summertime in Australia, so you
688
00:22:08,421 --> 00:22:10,467
Anja: know, we got to enjoy that and well, it was
689
00:22:10,527 --> 00:22:12,592
Anja: a summer for them, or was it summer?
690
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Anja: It was summer in Australia.
691
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Marc: Okay, so it'd be winter for us, that thing
692
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:18,843
Marc: always kind of yeah, they talk about
693
00:22:18,863 --> 00:22:20,467
Marc: Christmas down there being warm.
694
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Anja: I know I can't imagine.
695
00:22:23,661 --> 00:22:25,687
Marc: But John Cena he plays Ricky Stanicky
696
00:22:25,727 --> 00:22:27,352
Marc: correct and that's right.
697
00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:29,558
Marc: Yes, he does yeah and I was looking at
698
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Marc: Jermaine Fowler's and this.
699
00:22:30,742 --> 00:22:32,066
Marc: I had a chance to chat with him just a few
700
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Marc: weeks ago actually, so Such a cool dude,
701
00:22:36,325 --> 00:22:37,007
Marc: very cool dude.
702
00:22:37,207 --> 00:22:38,110
Anja: He's a great guy.
703
00:22:38,331 --> 00:22:39,133
Anja: Yeah, he's great guy.
704
00:22:39,174 --> 00:22:40,076
Anja: Super funny too.
705
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Marc: Just awesome Can we say how long were you
706
00:22:42,223 --> 00:22:44,751
Marc: down in down in Australia for in total?
707
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Anja: So I think for me it was about five weeks,
708
00:22:49,281 --> 00:22:51,648
Anja: yeah, and I really enjoyed it.
709
00:22:51,688 --> 00:22:53,433
Anja: I loved working with everyone in the cast.
710
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Anja: In the movie I play Andrew Santino's wife
711
00:22:58,408 --> 00:23:01,330
Anja: and I'm like heavily pregnant in it and he
712
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Anja: misses the birth of the baby and that's
713
00:23:04,622 --> 00:23:06,629
Anja: kind of when they start realizing that they
714
00:23:06,669 --> 00:23:08,214
Anja: need to bring in Ricky Stanicky so that
715
00:23:08,234 --> 00:23:09,919
Anja: they can prove that they have this friend
716
00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:13,569
Anja: and yeah, I mean that was all really fun.
717
00:23:13,629 --> 00:23:16,562
Anja: Just the unraveling of the story is a you
718
00:23:16,602 --> 00:23:16,883
Anja: know what.
719
00:23:16,943 --> 00:23:19,642
Anja: It reminds me a lot of like the more 2000s,
720
00:23:20,023 --> 00:23:22,831
Anja: older, fairly brother stuff where it's kind
721
00:23:22,851 --> 00:23:25,258
Anja: of a simple premise and the fun is in the
722
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Anja: silliness of it.
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Marc: Yeah, the situation just gets progressively
724
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Marc: more absurd as they go along.
725
00:23:30,472 --> 00:23:30,672
Marc: Yeah.
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00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,232
Anja: Exactly, and I feel like that kind of
727
00:23:33,273 --> 00:23:34,380
Anja: comedy is missing now.
728
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,302
Anja: You know everything.
729
00:23:35,432 --> 00:23:37,875
Anja: I feel like comedy now is just wrapped into
730
00:23:38,005 --> 00:23:39,900
Anja: every genre instead of just being
731
00:23:40,030 --> 00:23:41,011
Anja: standalone, and I like that.
732
00:23:41,031 --> 00:23:43,274
Anja: This is just a standalone, funny, silly
733
00:23:43,334 --> 00:23:43,694
Anja: story.
734
00:23:43,734 --> 00:23:44,595
Anja: You can relax too.
735
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Marc: You know, thank you for saying that.
736
00:23:47,121 --> 00:23:48,644
Marc: Yeah, my daughter and I were going through
737
00:23:49,145 --> 00:23:50,588
Marc: trying to find on the different streamers,
738
00:23:50,829 --> 00:23:53,134
Marc: trying to find just a comedy like circa
739
00:23:53,761 --> 00:23:55,447
Marc: late 90s, maybe you know, like a good
740
00:23:55,487 --> 00:23:58,185
Marc: example is Judd Apatow.
741
00:23:58,346 --> 00:24:00,435
Marc: Anything he did, it was just you kind of
742
00:24:00,475 --> 00:24:01,560
Marc: buying the absurdity of it.
743
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,128
Marc: It's just kind of fun, like a no matter
744
00:24:03,148 --> 00:24:05,139
Marc: something like that but there aren't really
745
00:24:05,179 --> 00:24:05,280
Marc: there.
746
00:24:05,380 --> 00:24:07,005
Marc: You're right, there seems to be and this is
747
00:24:07,045 --> 00:24:08,589
Marc: maybe just my opinion just a kind of a
748
00:24:08,629 --> 00:24:11,764
Marc: shortage of good fun, quasi-goofy comedies
749
00:24:11,784 --> 00:24:13,368
Marc: that you can kind of disappear for a couple
750
00:24:13,428 --> 00:24:13,669
Marc: hours.
751
00:24:13,729 --> 00:24:15,172
Marc: You know, this is kind of my thing.
752
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,025
Anja: Absolutely something you can just have on.
753
00:24:18,085 --> 00:24:19,949
Anja: You can again, you can turn on again and
754
00:24:19,989 --> 00:24:22,173
Anja: again, and again and just rewatch and laugh
755
00:24:22,334 --> 00:24:22,434
Anja: at.
756
00:24:22,921 --> 00:24:24,544
Anja: So I think that'll be this and I really
757
00:24:24,584 --> 00:24:26,909
Anja: hope it's it does well and people enjoy it
758
00:24:26,969 --> 00:24:29,634
Anja: because it's yeah, it's silly and fun and,
759
00:24:30,948 --> 00:24:31,652
Anja: yeah, I love it.
760
00:24:32,356 --> 00:24:34,767
Marc: I forgot to ask you we do your parents and
761
00:24:34,787 --> 00:24:36,815
Marc: the arts at all, or they in any kind of
762
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Marc: performance or anything like that.
763
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Anja: No, no, my parents were never really into
764
00:24:40,929 --> 00:24:41,411
Anja: the arts.
765
00:24:43,081 --> 00:24:46,510
Anja: My grandma had like a brother that was a
766
00:24:46,590 --> 00:24:50,003
Anja: playwright and Theater director, and so she
767
00:24:50,043 --> 00:24:51,827
Anja: always says that, oh, you pulled from this
768
00:24:52,108 --> 00:24:54,092
Anja: brother I had, you know, but no one else in
769
00:24:54,112 --> 00:24:56,486
Anja: my family is Really about artsy.
770
00:24:56,506 --> 00:24:58,176
Anja: I think I have like a distant uncle that's
771
00:24:58,257 --> 00:25:01,209
Anja: a painter, but that's kind of where it ends.
772
00:25:02,581 --> 00:25:03,143
Anja: So, yeah, I don't.
773
00:25:03,163 --> 00:25:04,246
Anja: I don't know where it came from.
774
00:25:04,367 --> 00:25:05,570
Marc: Well, it's good that you kind of have that
775
00:25:05,610 --> 00:25:05,751
Marc: thing.
776
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,956
Marc: It's your own thing, but also a lot of
777
00:25:07,976 --> 00:25:08,540
Marc: folks don't get it.
778
00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:11,205
Marc: You know, we're your parents down with it,
779
00:25:11,246 --> 00:25:13,791
Marc: like were they saying really acting, or
780
00:25:13,811 --> 00:25:15,214
Marc: were they like, hey, go for it.
781
00:25:15,421 --> 00:25:16,846
Marc: You know, did they have an opinion either
782
00:25:16,866 --> 00:25:17,047
Marc: way?
783
00:25:18,748 --> 00:25:18,971
Anja: It was.
784
00:25:19,012 --> 00:25:19,539
Anja: It was tricky.
785
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,814
Anja: I think they were excited for me because I
786
00:25:22,895 --> 00:25:23,720
Anja: knew what I enjoyed.
787
00:25:24,422 --> 00:25:26,048
Anja: But at the same time they were worried that,
788
00:25:26,088 --> 00:25:28,135
Anja: you know, I wasn't gonna make enough money
789
00:25:28,196 --> 00:25:29,420
Anja: and I wouldn't be able to make a living.
790
00:25:29,681 --> 00:25:31,425
Anja: And of course I think that's every parent's
791
00:25:31,525 --> 00:25:34,293
Anja: fear, that you know you can't hold your own.
792
00:25:35,003 --> 00:25:36,918
Anja: But um, you know, I went to school, I went
793
00:25:36,938 --> 00:25:38,763
Anja: to university, I studied English and
794
00:25:38,823 --> 00:25:40,707
Anja: business and I thought, you know, one day
795
00:25:40,748 --> 00:25:43,513
Anja: I'll get a more regular office type job.
796
00:25:43,594 --> 00:25:45,980
Anja: And After I finished school I thought, okay,
797
00:25:46,181 --> 00:25:48,068
Anja: I'll do acting for another year and I'll
798
00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:48,811
Anja: see what happens.
799
00:25:49,112 --> 00:25:50,960
Anja: And then, you know, if it's not working out,
800
00:25:51,161 --> 00:25:52,607
Anja: I'll maybe find some other ways.
801
00:25:53,411 --> 00:25:55,380
Anja: And I booked ladder milk.
802
00:25:55,801 --> 00:25:58,346
Anja: So from there I kind of just kept going and
803
00:25:59,308 --> 00:26:01,533
Anja: I haven't jumped to the plan B yet.
804
00:26:01,793 --> 00:26:04,906
Marc: So Hopefully never well, they said what
805
00:26:04,926 --> 00:26:06,471
Marc: I've heard to talk to so many people that
806
00:26:06,511 --> 00:26:09,088
Marc: said Something to the effect of if you can
807
00:26:09,128 --> 00:26:11,277
Marc: see yourself doing anything else, you know
808
00:26:11,458 --> 00:26:11,960
Marc: realistically.
809
00:26:12,201 --> 00:26:13,646
Marc: Yeah, it's probably it for you, and I think
810
00:26:13,666 --> 00:26:16,784
Marc: that's a lot of the folks who Do this.
811
00:26:17,006 --> 00:26:18,534
Marc: It's, this is in their DNA.
812
00:26:18,695 --> 00:26:19,339
Marc: They got to do it.
813
00:26:19,439 --> 00:26:21,157
Marc: Yeah, yeah you found something you're
814
00:26:21,291 --> 00:26:22,749
Marc: passionate about and I love.
815
00:26:22,883 --> 00:26:23,945
Marc: You know ladder milk.
816
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:26,507
Marc: For me was was a pleasant surprise.
817
00:26:26,507 --> 00:26:28,251
Marc: I did not know is one of those things you
818
00:26:28,271 --> 00:26:28,652
Marc: walk into.
819
00:26:28,672 --> 00:26:31,643
Marc: I have no idea About anything, what to
820
00:26:31,683 --> 00:26:34,731
Marc: expect, but of course being in recovery is
821
00:26:34,791 --> 00:26:38,246
Marc: a big, big thing, naturally, in this did
822
00:26:38,466 --> 00:26:41,313
Marc: did you do any preparation for that by
823
00:26:42,741 --> 00:26:44,305
Marc: Going and attending any meetings?
824
00:26:44,687 --> 00:26:47,074
Marc: How did you prepare for to play this
825
00:26:47,114 --> 00:26:47,435
Marc: character?
826
00:26:47,595 --> 00:26:49,160
Anja: Yeah, I did a lot of research.
827
00:26:49,666 --> 00:26:52,945
Anja: I, first of all, I have people in my life
828
00:26:53,045 --> 00:26:55,271
Anja: that have dealt with substance abuse in
829
00:26:55,291 --> 00:26:58,124
Anja: different ways, so Talking to them was
830
00:26:58,485 --> 00:27:00,311
Anja: probably the most eye-opening and
831
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,143
Anja: Interesting way to learn.
832
00:27:03,745 --> 00:27:07,054
Anja: And then I watched a lot of stuff on
833
00:27:07,134 --> 00:27:09,019
Anja: YouTube that I found there was like some
834
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,086
Anja: very interesting Docs about addiction.
835
00:27:11,126 --> 00:27:14,866
Anja: I mean, even just watching what's that?
836
00:27:14,926 --> 00:27:15,711
Anja: What's that show?
837
00:27:16,034 --> 00:27:19,104
Anja: The really popular one when people are
838
00:27:19,144 --> 00:27:19,985
Anja: trying to get off drugs?
839
00:27:20,747 --> 00:27:22,570
Marc: Oh, is it like a reality show or yes?
840
00:27:22,971 --> 00:27:25,175
Anja: Yes, yes, yes, it's very dark.
841
00:27:26,301 --> 00:27:30,550
Anja: Anyway, I watched a bunch of that and I'm I
842
00:27:30,590 --> 00:27:34,363
Anja: just sort of tried to Put myself in her
843
00:27:34,403 --> 00:27:36,008
Anja: shoes, just reading through, reading the
844
00:27:36,048 --> 00:27:39,546
Anja: script and, and you know, being on set and
845
00:27:39,686 --> 00:27:42,844
Anja: asking questions and that kind of thing.
846
00:27:43,367 --> 00:27:46,826
Anja: So, yeah, I think there's all kinds of ways
847
00:27:46,966 --> 00:27:49,931
Anja: to to find your character and, especially
848
00:27:49,951 --> 00:27:51,313
Anja: with a topic this difficult, I think
849
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:54,010
Anja: Addictions are also prevalent in other
850
00:27:54,171 --> 00:27:55,337
Anja: aspects of life too.
851
00:27:55,438 --> 00:27:58,944
Anja: Like, for me it's not so much substances,
852
00:27:59,064 --> 00:28:01,308
Anja: but you know there's other things that
853
00:28:02,591 --> 00:28:05,036
Anja: maybe we deal with, that you know, repeated
854
00:28:05,056 --> 00:28:06,826
Anja: behaviors or whatever that we're trying to
855
00:28:06,866 --> 00:28:08,831
Anja: curb, and it's like I get it.
856
00:28:09,111 --> 00:28:12,786
Anja: So that was a really interesting aspect of
857
00:28:12,926 --> 00:28:14,691
Anja: the show and I'm so glad that so many
858
00:28:14,711 --> 00:28:17,097
Anja: people connected to it, because obviously
859
00:28:17,157 --> 00:28:19,471
Anja: it's a big, a big point, yeah, and I think
860
00:28:19,491 --> 00:28:20,497
Anja: it was handled very well.
861
00:28:20,578 --> 00:28:21,765
Marc: I don't think it was meant that it was
862
00:28:21,845 --> 00:28:24,070
Marc: meant to be cuted up.
863
00:28:24,171 --> 00:28:24,572
Marc: Is that a word?
864
00:28:24,612 --> 00:28:26,015
Marc: I don't know In any way.
865
00:28:26,035 --> 00:28:27,566
Marc: I mean there was some humor that was in
866
00:28:27,606 --> 00:28:28,810
Marc: there, but I like kind of like you, you had
867
00:28:28,890 --> 00:28:29,592
Marc: people in your life.
868
00:28:29,672 --> 00:28:31,427
Marc: Now, I didn't have anybody that I was, that
869
00:28:31,447 --> 00:28:33,873
Marc: I was aware of, necessarily in my life, but
870
00:28:34,093 --> 00:28:36,238
Marc: I came up as a young kid, starting at 17.
871
00:28:36,345 --> 00:28:39,979
Marc: I started working in radio and so I liked
872
00:28:40,019 --> 00:28:41,404
Marc: hanging out with the guys and Gray Harry.
873
00:28:41,424 --> 00:28:43,111
Marc: Now they had really good stories about the
874
00:28:43,151 --> 00:28:46,102
Marc: other days way back when but a lot of that
875
00:28:46,563 --> 00:28:48,288
Marc: some aspect of recovery was part of their
876
00:28:48,388 --> 00:28:48,689
Marc: life.
877
00:28:48,910 --> 00:28:50,975
Marc: So I had a chance to kind of see them after
878
00:28:51,035 --> 00:28:52,057
Marc: the storm, as it were.
879
00:28:52,326 --> 00:28:54,396
Marc: You know, and then the young guys I was
880
00:28:54,436 --> 00:28:55,903
Marc: coming up with, some of them were going a
881
00:28:55,943 --> 00:28:56,746
Marc: little off the rail.
882
00:28:56,786 --> 00:28:59,031
Marc: So it's kind of seeing an A B comparison,
883
00:28:59,132 --> 00:28:59,573
Marc: if you will.
884
00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:00,615
Marc: You know before and after.
885
00:29:01,257 --> 00:29:02,648
Marc: And I just got to the point.
886
00:29:02,668 --> 00:29:04,675
Marc: I was like you know what I'm seeing, kind
887
00:29:04,695 --> 00:29:06,326
Marc: of weird things could go and I'm just not
888
00:29:06,346 --> 00:29:06,988
Marc: going to go do that.
889
00:29:07,589 --> 00:29:10,075
Marc: But I do think it does call upon you to say
890
00:29:10,256 --> 00:29:11,906
Marc: how much of this is just built into your
891
00:29:11,947 --> 00:29:12,949
Marc: DNA, you know?
892
00:29:12,989 --> 00:29:15,013
Marc: You know which some people it is, you know
893
00:29:15,414 --> 00:29:16,296
Marc: absolutely.
894
00:29:16,617 --> 00:29:17,018
Marc: So are you?
895
00:29:17,426 --> 00:29:19,034
Marc: Are you working on anything right now?
896
00:29:19,215 --> 00:29:20,762
Marc: Are you kind of taking a little break or
897
00:29:21,003 --> 00:29:22,046
Marc: what you have going?
898
00:29:22,106 --> 00:29:22,587
Anja: on.
899
00:29:23,108 --> 00:29:24,350
Anja: I'm on a little break right now.
900
00:29:25,793 --> 00:29:28,678
Anja: I just worked on recently a show called
901
00:29:28,718 --> 00:29:32,051
Anja: Tracker that's coming out in a couple days
902
00:29:32,713 --> 00:29:33,455
Anja: and that was really fun.
903
00:29:33,495 --> 00:29:35,986
Anja: Just a little guest star on that and yeah,
904
00:29:36,006 --> 00:29:38,151
Anja: just things in the works but not solidified
905
00:29:38,191 --> 00:29:40,016
Anja: yet so can't talk about them.
906
00:29:40,116 --> 00:29:41,849
Marc: But Well, how are you spending your time,
907
00:29:41,889 --> 00:29:42,069
Marc: though?
908
00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:43,414
Marc: I mean, what now that, now that you don't
909
00:29:43,454 --> 00:29:45,050
Marc: have schedules to be on?
910
00:29:45,170 --> 00:29:47,119
Marc: Is it just relaxation, or do you have
911
00:29:47,139 --> 00:29:47,480
Marc: things like?
912
00:29:47,541 --> 00:29:48,786
Marc: I've been meaning to do this thing?
913
00:29:49,670 --> 00:29:51,236
Anja: Totally Well, I'm working on a lot of
914
00:29:51,256 --> 00:29:51,638
Anja: writing.
915
00:29:51,818 --> 00:29:53,525
Anja: I have a writing partner, my friend Taylor
916
00:29:53,665 --> 00:29:53,906
Anja: Hill.
917
00:29:54,528 --> 00:29:56,413
Anja: Her and I write together and we're working
918
00:29:56,474 --> 00:30:00,144
Anja: on a comedy like a two best friend, two
919
00:30:00,165 --> 00:30:02,415
Anja: female best friends, parallel world type of
920
00:30:02,435 --> 00:30:02,756
Anja: thing.
921
00:30:02,817 --> 00:30:04,284
Anja: So we're working on that and hopefully
922
00:30:04,304 --> 00:30:05,167
Anja: trying to get that made.
923
00:30:06,752 --> 00:30:09,120
Anja: And other than that, you know, auditions
924
00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:12,488
Anja: here and there, some meetings and lots of
925
00:30:12,508 --> 00:30:13,650
Anja: getting outside in nature.
926
00:30:14,372 --> 00:30:17,577
Anja: Recently I moved to a little more like of a
927
00:30:17,697 --> 00:30:21,554
Anja: forested area in BC, near in Vancouver, and
928
00:30:21,694 --> 00:30:23,199
Anja: I'm just kind of getting outside and
929
00:30:23,239 --> 00:30:25,447
Anja: enjoying the nature and kind of getting
930
00:30:27,273 --> 00:30:28,416
Anja: getting more into the rain.
931
00:30:28,757 --> 00:30:29,600
Anja: It rains here a lot.
932
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,306
Anja: It's the Pacific Northwest, so it's like
933
00:30:31,486 --> 00:30:34,794
Anja: constantly a downpour and I'm just I think
934
00:30:34,854 --> 00:30:39,064
Anja: I'm finally really enjoying the the, the
935
00:30:39,104 --> 00:30:41,170
Anja: rain and all the greenery that it causes.
936
00:30:42,513 --> 00:30:44,138
Anja: I've also really been enjoying traveling.
937
00:30:44,338 --> 00:30:47,929
Anja: So my partner and I we went to Europe and
938
00:30:48,892 --> 00:30:50,838
Anja: traveled around there, visited my family in
939
00:30:50,858 --> 00:30:53,607
Anja: Bosnia, which was super fun and like
940
00:30:53,748 --> 00:30:55,857
Anja: interesting to have him yeah, to have him
941
00:30:55,938 --> 00:30:57,605
Anja: integrated into, like my family, my grandma.
942
00:30:57,745 --> 00:30:59,370
Marc: So you still have a good connection to
943
00:30:59,771 --> 00:31:01,796
Marc: Bosnia and you have a lot of family that
944
00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:02,237
Marc: was left there.
945
00:31:02,546 --> 00:31:04,233
Anja: I do, yeah, I think when you left.
946
00:31:04,293 --> 00:31:05,397
Marc: Wasn't that right about the?
947
00:31:05,939 --> 00:31:07,506
Marc: I mean, I'm not totally sure of the
948
00:31:07,827 --> 00:31:08,449
Marc: timeline.
949
00:31:09,052 --> 00:31:09,473
Marc: Yeah, it was.
950
00:31:09,815 --> 00:31:10,919
Marc: It was right when the war was starting,
951
00:31:10,939 --> 00:31:11,441
Marc: during the war.
952
00:31:11,561 --> 00:31:12,846
Anja: Yeah, that's right.
953
00:31:12,906 --> 00:31:15,772
Anja: Yeah, so I have a lot of family that stayed
954
00:31:16,153 --> 00:31:18,138
Anja: and I have a lot of family that left.
955
00:31:18,218 --> 00:31:20,269
Anja: There's, you know, I have family in Italy
956
00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:22,735
Anja: and in Germany and I think there's some
957
00:31:22,775 --> 00:31:26,233
Anja: people in Australia even, and it's, it's
958
00:31:26,273 --> 00:31:28,401
Anja: interesting, the diasporic community and
959
00:31:28,441 --> 00:31:29,364
Anja: then the people that stayed.
960
00:31:29,384 --> 00:31:32,295
Anja: There's like a real difference of culture,
961
00:31:32,516 --> 00:31:34,503
Anja: right, because the kids are growing up in
962
00:31:34,523 --> 00:31:35,085
Anja: different places.
963
00:31:35,947 --> 00:31:37,391
Marc: Now how old were you when you left again?
964
00:31:38,093 --> 00:31:39,797
Anja: I was three, so I was quite young.
965
00:31:40,425 --> 00:31:42,553
Marc: Do you have any echoes of memories of that
966
00:31:42,593 --> 00:31:43,034
Marc: time at all?
967
00:31:43,725 --> 00:31:45,048
Anja: Not really not much.
968
00:31:45,128 --> 00:31:47,794
Anja: I actually do remember being in Serbia and
969
00:31:48,015 --> 00:31:50,226
Anja: my grandpa taking me to a play I think it
970
00:31:50,266 --> 00:31:51,951
Anja: was a puppet show and I remember it really
971
00:31:52,031 --> 00:31:53,676
Anja: stuck in my head and then he bought me a
972
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Marc: Really.
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Anja: So yeah, and I think of that now and I'm
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Anja: like, wow, I think I was already drawn to,
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Anja: you know, this sort of entertainment
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Anja: performer world.
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Anja: But yeah, I really enjoyed going back to
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Anja: the Balkans and traveling through Croatia
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Anja: and Montenegro and Bosnia and I think that
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Anja: area of the world.
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Marc: Coastal, like Croatia, somewhere I would
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Marc: love to go, it's gorgeous.
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Marc: I mean, Anthony Bourdain was kind of my
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Marc: spirit animal and I remember him going to
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Marc: Croatia.
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Announcer: once I was like wow.
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Marc: That was like.
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Marc: That looks like the coastal.
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Marc: You know that episode.
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Marc: He actually fell over.
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Marc: He had too much wine to drink.
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Marc: It was a hilarious it was a great episode.
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Marc: But it was like I had no idea what a
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Marc: beautiful, beautiful place, because I guess
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Marc: it's framed in my mind from years ago of
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Marc: being a place where war was happening and
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Marc: I'm sure kids these days will look at
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Marc: Ukraine the same way you know, and oh God
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Marc: yeah as I was kind of putting some things
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Marc: together just doing I don't know.
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Marc: I don't like to overly research when I chat
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Marc: with somebody because I'm going to forget
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Marc: to ask you a question or something.
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Marc: But we looked at, I think, your Instagram
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Marc: and did you road trip through Texas by any
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Marc: chance?
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Anja: I did so.
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Anja: I worked on a show called yeah, I worked on
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Anja: a show called Big Sky and we filmed that in
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Anja: Albuquerque, new Mexico.
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Anja: So I lived there for about eight months and
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Anja: during the weekends my husband and I would
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Anja: travel around.
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Anja: So we went into Texas, we visited some of
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Anja: the national parks in New Mexico and New
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Anja: Mexico, by the way, so underrated I think A
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Anja: lot of people think when they think
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Anja: Albuquerque, they think Breaking Bad and
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Anja: that's like where they stop, you know, but
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Anja: there's such, it's such a cool landscape.
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Anja: And for me, I really love Westerns, so all
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Anja: I could think about was Cormac McCarthy and,
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Anja: like you know, people on horses and like
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Anja: just you're the second guest I've had that
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Anja: mentioned him.
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Anja: Oh really.
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Marc: Yeah, garrett Dillahunt mentioned him
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Marc: before as somebody that was either
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Marc: influential or you really liked, so I gotta
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Marc: go read or check out this stuff?
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Anja: Oh, you have to.
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Anja: Yeah, he's incredible.
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Anja: I'm gonna make a note here, yeah, you
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Anja: should you know, so funny.
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Marc: I'll speak with somebody like you got to
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Marc: read this book or you got to check this
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Marc: thing out, and I'm like oh, absolutely,
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Marc: I'll write it down and I'll misplace the
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Marc: paper.
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Marc: I wrote it on me.
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Anja: Are you into Westerns?
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Anja: Do you like sort of the Deserty vibes you
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Anja: know?
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Marc: I'm not necessarily a big, big Western
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Marc: person, but if there's a good story behind
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Marc: it, I find that I can like any genre.
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Marc: If there's good story, it's either well
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Marc: acted or there's.
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Marc: You can.
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Marc: If it's a book, you can disappear into it
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Marc: and you can kind of your your mind's eye
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Marc: can kind of see it, you know that makes
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Marc: sense, of course.
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Anja: I think you'll.
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Anja: You'll start to enjoy the genre more if you
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Anja: check them out, because I wasn't a big
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Anja: Western fan either, and then, once I
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Anja: started reading him, I definitely changed
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Anja: my mind.
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Anja: He added a richness that I hadn't thought
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Anja: of before and a depth that I was like wow.
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Anja: So I think you'll enjoy.
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Marc: Well, you're a big sky.
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Marc: That's one of the shows and there's so much
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Marc: stuff out there that I really want to check
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Marc: out that I just would gas to have on them
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Marc: on to make sure I'm watching some of their
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Marc: stuff.
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Anja: Oh God, you can't watch everything, that'd
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Anja: be crazy.
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Marc: But big sky is one is Kylie, Kylie Bunbury
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Marc: is that her name, Kylie?
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Anja: Bunbury.
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Anja: Yeah, she was one of the leads.
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Marc: Yeah, that anything she's in and she was in
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Marc: the show my Daughter Light, or she was a
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Marc: picture, major league picture, and she
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Marc: really liked it, and so whatever she shows
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Marc: up in, I really, I really enjoy yeah she's
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Marc: fantastic.
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Marc: She was in.
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Marc: Was it Game Night?
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Marc: Oh yeah, she was in Game Night.
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Anja: That was a great movie.
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Anja: I loved that film.
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Anja: That was really fun.
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Marc: Again that kind of comedy, you can kind of
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Marc: get lost.
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Marc: I don't know why they don't have those
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Marc: those shows, those movies, as much as
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Marc: you're major writer.
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Anja: Maybe you can write something like that,
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Anja: yeah, seriously, I'm definitely, yeah,
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Anja: edging towards comedy, for sure, when I'm
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Anja: writing, it's also just the it feels the
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Anja: best to write.
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Anja: You know, when you're writing a drama and
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Anja: you're getting into the nitty gritty and
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Anja: getting into these dark scenes, you don't
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Anja: feel good after.
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Anja: But when you're writing a comedy,
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Anja: especially if you're working with someone,
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Anja: you're just laughing the whole time and you
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Anja: have a good.
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Anja: You have a good day for the rest of the day,
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Anja: you know.
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Marc: I've played around just for fun, writing
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Marc: screenplays.
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Marc: I don't think I don't know it'd be nice if
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Marc: one would sell.
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Marc: I've never put one out there but it's just
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Marc: fun to me, it's cathartic or whatever, but
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Marc: you really, it really helped me appreciate
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Marc: the casting process more because as you're
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Marc: writing it you really get a sense of the
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Marc: aesthetic of the character and everything,
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Marc: and and it makes you feel better when you
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Marc: go audition for something and don't get it
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Marc: and we're like I just wasn't the person
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Marc: they imagined, you know, or the director
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Marc: you know, but comedy, but yeah, I could see
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Marc: where you really get involved in it.
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Marc: You know because you're thinking aesthetics,
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Marc: the scenery, what are, where are they, what
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Marc: are they doing?
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Marc: You know what's around, you know you really
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Marc: kind of submerge yourself almost like a
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Marc: daydream, if you will, totally a happy
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Marc: daydream.
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Marc: Yes, yeah so you know, so are you.
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Marc: You know your goal.
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Marc: Maybe in the next year or two are you
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Marc: wanting to put a TV show out there or, you
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Marc: know, is that kind of the destination for?
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Anja: you, I think.
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Anja: I mean I would love to put a TV show out,
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Anja: but I think it's a lot harder to make a TV
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Anja: show than it is to make a movie.
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Anja: So I think I'd probably start with a
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Anja: feature and then, you know, work my way
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Anja: towards something like that.
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Anja: I'd love to just work in comedy again in
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Anja: general, but I'm kind of open to everything.
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Anja: I'm whatever comes my way.
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Anja: As you know, with acting it's kind of not
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00:37:23,234 --> 00:37:26,944
Anja: always so up to us and you got to kind of
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Anja: chase the opportunities that come your way.
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Anja: Yeah, exactly, so I don't know.
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Anja: I don't want to like put anything definite
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Anja: out there, but in terms of my own work,
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Anja: definitely something comedic, probably a
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Anja: movie, would be really fun.
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Marc: Yeah, I do have to finish this match.
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Marc: We started watching it last night.
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Marc: And then we have my kids.
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Marc: My two of them are in college in New
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Marc: Orleans right now, but the one is with me.
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Marc: He loves the TV show the Rookie on ABC.
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Announcer: Oh, the.
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Marc: Rookie, we're going to go watch it.
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Marc: And so we were watching your film was like,
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Marc: oh, rookie's coming on, gotta watch it.
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Marc: Debut for this year.
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Anja: Oh yeah, you got to go to the thing you
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Anja: love.
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Marc: So we'll come back to it, but I really
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Marc: liked the premise of it.
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Marc: I didn't.
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Marc: I'm wondering if there are really people
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Marc: out there that do that thing of mismatch,
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Marc: where you go and test dates or trial runs
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Marc: of dates with people to kind of was that,
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Marc: was that already a thing?
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Marc: I didn't know, I didn't know about?
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Anja: I don't think it's a thing.
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Anja: I think it's they were kind of going for
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Anja: like a female hitch type vibe, if you
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Anja: remember that movie with Will Smith.
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Marc: I, that's, that's what I was thinking.
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Marc: Yeah, yeah, that's it.
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Anja: So she's kind of like training men to go
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Anja: out on dates and helping them with that.
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Anja: And yeah, that was a cute movie.
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Anja: I had a lot of fun.
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Anja: I worked with the director, lucy Guest.
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Anja: She's also here from Vancouver and we
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Anja: really clicked and became really good
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Anja: friends.
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Anja: So I got I made a lot of really great
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Anja: relationships on that film.
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Marc: And it seems like it's fun.
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Marc: Like I said, I've only gotten about 20
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Marc: something minutes into it until the rookie
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Marc: came on, but but, the beauty of streaming,
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Marc: it's always right there.
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Marc: So we're going to come back, probably
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Marc: tonight, but I like the one, the guy who
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Marc: yeah, I think somebody speaking with you
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Marc: has a little like little control and they
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Marc: spit when they talk a lot.
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Marc: Yeah.
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Announcer: I know when that came up.
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Marc: It was just somebody I know, who's going to
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Marc: remain nameless, will be very vague, but
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Marc: one of those people that is a close
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Marc: You know, those people stand a little too
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Anja: Wasn't there a Seinfeld character like that?
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Anja: That stood super close, yeah, yeah, but
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Anja: there's definitely a lot of they talk
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Anja: that's.
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Marc: I've been in that situation once before and
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Marc: it's so uncount.
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Marc: You don't want to, you don't want to make
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Marc: somebody feel bad about it, but it's like
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Marc: you know you're sitting there like wiping
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Marc: off going.
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Marc: Yeah, okay.
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Marc: One of the things I like to do.
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Marc: I want to ask my seven questions.
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Marc: It's just some fun I like to do.
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Marc: But the first one I'm a big food nerd.
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Marc: I mentioned Anthony Bourdain before.
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Marc: I'm a big food nerd, but I got to ask what
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Marc: is your favorite comfort food?
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Marc: You're having a bad day, you eat it, you'll
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Marc: feel better.
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Marc: Or you're having a great day.
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Marc: You're like man.
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Marc: This is to help celebrate.
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Marc: I'm going to have my favorite comfort food.
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Anja: I love spaghetti bolognese.
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Anja: That's like my favorite favorite thing,
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Anja: like a homemade one, I think that's been
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Marc: I talked to a Brit and he called it Spag
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Marc: Bowl.
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Anja: This is what apparently they call it in
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Anja: England.
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Anja: Yeah, I should probably call it that.
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Anja: How much I eat it.
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Anja: I need to shorten my time.
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Marc: I mean, it doesn't sound pleasant unless
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Marc: you know what it is, you know it's like
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Marc: Spag Bowl.
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Anja: He's always like a.
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Marc: Spag Bowl.
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Marc: I was like what's a Spag Bowl?
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Marc: Oh, spaghetti bologna.
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Marc: So you're not.
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Marc: You're not alone in that camp or in that
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Anja: Oh love spaghetti bolognese.
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Marc: Now, if you are to sit down, let's say
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Marc: people a few hours.
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Marc: Sit down, talk story, living or not.
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Marc: Who would three people be you would love to
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Marc: sit down with and chat?
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Anja: Oh my gosh, that's a very hard question.
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Marc: I know I don't mean it to be hard, but it's
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Marc: funny, because I spoke with someone the
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Marc: other day, sheree Agdashlu, and she was
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Marc: like who are your three people?
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Marc: I was like shit.
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Marc: Well, I told her, I said one of them is my
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Marc: I'm getting to that age where I'd love to
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Marc: kind of like check in with him on certain
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Marc: You know, my kids are getting old.
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Marc: Yeah, that's beautiful, you know you don't
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Marc: know, until you're older the questions you
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Marc: haven't asked that you should have asked,
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Marc: but you didn't know to ask because you're
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Marc: too young.
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Anja: That I think.
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Marc: I mentioned Alan Watts and it was one of
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Anja: Oh, I love Alan Watts.
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Anja: Yeah, oh God, I used to when.
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Marc: I worked on the radio briefly in LA.
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Marc: I used to live in Sinita, just north county
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Marc: of San Diego, so I'd go to In-N-Out Burger
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Marc: get a chocolate shake and drive south the
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Marc: head back home after I got off the air.
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Marc: And I would turn.
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Marc: It was a radio Pacific or somewhere they
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Marc: would.
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Marc: I didn't know who it was, but I'd listen to
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Marc: him every day driving back.
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Marc: And.
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Marc: But now I just one of those guys who just
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Marc: love to sit down and groove on you know
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Marc: life with you know talk.
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Anja: Oh my God, I love him.
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Anja: I used to listen to his, his, his lectures,
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Anja: like I had that series of all his lectures
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Anja: and I would just listen to them over and
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Anja: over and over.
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Anja: Oh yeah, they're so good.
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Marc: Well, his son just released something.
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Marc: It's an app.
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Marc: It's an Alan Watts app.
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Marc: It's got literally everything organized and
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Marc: it's it was, and I just you're the only
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Marc: guess I've had that really knew who he was.
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Marc: He's great, but yeah, there's an app out
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Marc: there and his son, Marc Watts, put it
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Marc: together and I don't know it's, he's one of
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Marc: those guys you listen to go yeah, never
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Marc: really thought about life that way.
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Marc: You know live in the moment.
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Anja: There is no tomorrow, yeah, and he keeps
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Anja: that light, he keeps it very light, he
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Anja: laughs a lot and yeah, he's, he's a great
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Anja: Actually, I you know what I'll go with Alan
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Anja: Watts for one of mine, um one of my people.
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Anja: Um, I'm a sucker for Oprah Winfrey.
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Anja: I just have loved her ever since I was a
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Anja: kid and watched her show with my mom, you
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Anja: know, every day after school.
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Anja: So definitely her, and maybe like Noam
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Anja: Chomsky, just to learn a little bit more
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Anja: about the world.
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Anja: Yeah, I love him.
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Marc: Oh, he had a great quote.
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Marc: The other day I saw something that he's
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Marc: talking about AI.
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Marc: He said AI is not a thinking thing, it's a.
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Marc: It's a plagiarism machine.
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Marc: Is what?
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Announcer: I was, like you know, that kind of is
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Announcer: because it's not creating, it's just
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Anja: Have you seen how good the videos are
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Anja: getting?
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Anja: Scary Somebody showed something last year
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Anja: that video of Will Smith eating spaghetti.
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Marc: I mean, we've all seen it which is just a
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Anja: That one was terrible yeah.
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Marc: And they show one year later.
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Marc: Now it's like indistinguishable, you know
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Marc: it's insane.
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Anja: It's insane.
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Anja: I'm terrified, I'm terrified.
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Marc: I live a lot in the world of voiceover and
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Marc: some people are like you know it is kind of
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Marc: you know, easy to replicate.
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Marc: But I'm like I said, the one thing I tell I
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Marc: students is it's never, I don't care.
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Marc: Anybody says I know some people like well,
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Marc: you never know technology, it's never going
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Marc: to be able to be like an actor has emotion
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Marc: and it can't make choices and reflect that
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Marc: and so there's always going to be and the
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Marc: moment I don't know about you, but we're
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Marc: I'm immediately out of it, I feel like it's
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Marc: just it's just it feels kind of like I
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Marc: would rather read it.
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Marc: I don't need to have a computer voice
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Anja: I think we all want a real, authentic human
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Anja: and especially when it's something artistic,
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Anja: we want to know that they felt what they
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Anja: were making.
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Anja: You know that they, they came up with it,
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Anja: not some computer.
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Anja: So I'm with you there.
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Marc: Can you imagine a movie that was written by
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Marc: If I found out, found that I mean it may be
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Anja: It's going to be the new toy everybody
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Anja: plays with for a while, and then you know I
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Anja: don't know what's going to happen Totally
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Anja: and, and I'm sure there'll be movies and
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Anja: songs and things like that that we'll love
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Anja: that'll be AI, but I think there'll be a
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Anja: limit to the amount that we allow it into
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Marc: I think we love connection.
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Marc: You know absolutely.
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Anja: So Dome Chomsky and Alan Watson you have
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Anja: heard one of that Oprah Winfrey, oprah
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Anja: Winfrey, oprah Winfrey.
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Anja: I heard that was three.
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Marc: Alan Watts, yeah, got a good one, oh, very
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Anja: Yeah.
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Marc: You know, she the arc of her career, me
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Marc: It was not the Oprah Winfrey show that it
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Marc: She's the best Now if we were to go back
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Marc: Celebrity crush that you were looking at.
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Marc: Was it somebody on the OC.
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Marc: No, because you had mentioned that.
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Anja: Oh, I did love the OC.
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Anja: That's a good question.
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Anja: I don't know, I had a lot of posters up in
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Anja: my room.
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Marc: A lot of J-14.
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Anja: I don't know if you know that magazine.
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Marc: It was like a kid's it was kind of like
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Anja: Yeah, totally.
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Anja: And they had posters inside and I'd always
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Anja: have them up on my walls, but probably like
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Anja: a first crush, maybe Shia LaBeouf.
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Marc: Because I loved even Stevens yeah.
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Marc: I forgot he did that yeah.
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Anja: Yeah, he was great in that.
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Anja: He's a talented guy, so Shia LaBeouf was
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Anja: the first Makes sense.
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Marc: Yeah, of the era, yeah.
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Anja: I'm trying to think that he was popular
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Anja: when I was growing up.
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Marc: I think the original Beverly Hills night of
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Marc: two when I was in high school.
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Marc: Though Now I'm old, you see, I'm trying to
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Marc: remember way back when.
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Marc: Like, who was you know what was going on
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Marc: back then?
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Marc: But now the next question I got for you if
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Marc: you're going to go to, let's say, an exotic
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Marc: island, you're going to be living on it for
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Marc: a year and you're not like a cast away.
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Marc: It's nice, maybe the resort, but it doesn't
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Marc: have internet.
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Marc: No, no streaming, no, nothing.
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Marc: So you have to bring one DVD of a movie and
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Marc: one CD of an album or who or what would
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Marc: that CD and DVD be?
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Marc: You bring with you Something you could
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Marc: watch and listen to over and over again.
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Anja: Okay, hmm, I think for movie maybe Greece.
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Anja: Greece is like one of my favorite films.
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Anja: I could probably watch that every single
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Anja: day and be happy with it.
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Marc: Oh, I had a thing for a living Newton John
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Marc: back in the day, so I'm there with you.
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Anja: Oh, I had a thing for Kenickie.
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Anja: He was my, he was my crush for sure.
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Anja: Maybe that was my first crush.
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Anja: Although it's so weird to think of like a
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Anja: grown man when you're like 10 watching
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Anja: something.
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Anja: It was, I remember watching that thinking.
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Marc: I remember we were at the grocery store and
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Marc: my mother, we went to go get something.
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Marc: And I'm walking through and I see a people
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Marc: magazine in the rack and talking about how
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Marc: Olivia Newton John got married.
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Marc: I mean his year, I mean.
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Marc: I was taken back as like wait, you know, I
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Marc: had no concept of age at that point.
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Marc: I was like, if I have a crush on them, I'll
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Marc: meet them one day.
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Marc: And then you know, such as the seven year
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Marc: old or eight year old mind, I guess.
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Anja: Yeah, I know Okay.
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Anja: So I think that's my favorite album.
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Anja: That's harder, maybe like Hot Fuss by the
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Anja: Killers.
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Anja: That was one of my first favorite albums
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Anja: and I still think it's a perfect album.
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Anja: No-transcript, I'll go with that.
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Marc: That was like a.
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Anja: What was it like it was a long time ago,
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Anja: that was early 2000s.
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Anja: Roughly Am I okay, totally yeah, yeah, it
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Anja: was.
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Marc: I think I played some of that on the radio
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Marc: way back in my radio days, which are long
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Marc: gone.
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Anja: You have such a radio voice, it's like
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Anja: makes total sense.
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Anja: You were on the radio.
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Marc: I've been accused of that Now it's now.
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Marc: I've got the last thing and it was a
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Marc: syndicated show on ABC Radio.
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Anja: I guess a podcast is similar.
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Anja: Well, you know that's.
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Marc: The thing I missed about radio was not the
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Marc: playing of the music, because before when
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Marc: the audience catches on to the song and
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Marc: they start loving it, you're sick and tired
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Marc: of hearing it because just you gotta play
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Marc: it so much and you're in the studio four or
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Marc: five hours a day.
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Marc: But no, when I had my show on ABC, that was
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Marc: like I could talk with people, like I had a
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Marc: retro show, which was a lot of fun, talked
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Marc: like Rick Springfield and I've got any one
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Marc: of the people from the retro era.
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Marc: That was so much fun for me because that's
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Marc: who I grew up with.
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Marc: But I missed that part of it.
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Marc: I didn't miss other aspects of it.
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Marc: So I just did acting and voiceover, which
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Marc: is my main gig, and then I figured well,
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Marc: the podcast will satisfy and scratch that
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Marc: itch of being able to talk to interesting
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Marc: fascinating people from Canada Totally.
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Anja: I've been watching a lot of Frasier right
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Anja: now and, like the old the original one.
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Announcer: The new one is a new one out of the
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Anja: I'm watching the original and it's just
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Anja: such a good show and I love all the radio
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Anja: bits in it and you could totally do that
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Anja: Become a psychologist.
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Marc: Yeah, a lot of those are pretty accurate.
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Marc: Like there's a lot of absurdity in radio, a
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Marc: lot of personalities that are just oh yeah,
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Marc: the people that call in.
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Anja: I mean that alone is like whoa, who am I
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Anja: going to get today?
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Marc: There are some that are just heartwarming,
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Marc: like people like oh man, it's like every
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Marc: week I look forward to hearing it.
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Marc: Others they call up going.
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Marc: Thank God I don't live in the same city as
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Marc: they do, because this could be dangerous.
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Announcer: I mean, I've heard stories of stalker.
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Marc: I even had one stalker once but that's a
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Marc: whole oh.
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Marc: God, but he stalked everybody.
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Marc: I wasn't unique.
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Anja: Your stalker didn't make you feel special.
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Marc: Well, no, I remember I was a helicopter.
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Marc: I flew in a helicopter doing traffic in
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Marc: Dallas when I was like 20 years old and we
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Marc: landed in a place in a suburb called
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Marc: Arlington where they would refuel the
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Marc: helicopter as well.
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Marc: There was a Dallas police helicopter
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Marc: landing and refueling in the TV station.
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Marc: So we had like two or three at any given
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Marc: time and one of them was for another radio
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Marc: station.
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Marc: That pilot walked over and we were just
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Marc: talking because I had to finish my last
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Marc: report and I got out and we were eating
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Marc: donuts and coffee and that was early in the
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Marc: morning and I found out.
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Marc: We just had a conversation.
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Marc: We had the same stalker and I'd found out
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Marc: another friend of mine, another radio
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Marc: station had the same guy.
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Marc: He changed names, he used different names
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Marc: of different people.
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Marc: He was really smart at finding out the
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Marc: hotline phone number at every radio station
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Marc: and calling and tour meeting and I was like
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Marc: for a month he found my home telephone
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Marc: number, would call me at all hours and I
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Marc: was like when I found out that he would
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Marc: call my, this guy Jim my friend Trey.
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Announcer: I was like wait a minute.
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Marc: I'm not special.
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Marc: I'm not the one, I'm not the one.
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Marc: There are other people he's stalking.
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Anja: I felt like I feel like that's a comedy
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Anja: movie right there, like someone being
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Anja: scared of their stalker and then being like
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Anja: wait a minute, why am I not the only one?
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Announcer: It's I want to be a friend to him now Be a
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Announcer: great movie.
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Anja: Yeah, why not just me?
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Anja: Am I not good enough?
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Marc: Well, there you go, there you go.
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Marc: I get a story by credit.
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Marc: It's your next project.
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Marc: Go for it.
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Announcer: That's so good, I love that, but no, this
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Announcer: guy had hear scary stories.
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Marc: I was 20 and I hadn't quite moved out of my
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Marc: own yet and my father got really mad.
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Marc: He's like why is this person calling at all
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Marc: hours?
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Marc: I was like I got no control over this guy.
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Marc: Oh Jesus, he was really.
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Marc: He was like a high school kid who just had
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Marc: a good game.
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Marc: He knew how to call up the new people of
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Marc: the station, scare him.
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Marc: Hey, I need a phone number of so-and-so.
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Marc: And somebody's like yeah, okay, I'll give
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Marc: it to you.
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Marc: He got everybody's home phone number.
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Marc: So he was very well known around Dallas as
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Marc: circa 1990.
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Marc: Wow 91, 92, no, about 93, I think, is one
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Marc: of them.
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Marc: So anyway, sorry, I wanted to dim you off
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Marc: the sidetrack there.
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Marc: But yeah, I had a stalker.
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Anja: No, that was fascinating and scary that is
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Anja: one of the things I mean.
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Marc: There are some gnarly stories I've heard
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Marc: about, but it is.
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Marc: The radio ecosystem back in the day was
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Marc: cool because you had a lot of personalities
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Marc: both on and off the air.
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Marc: That made it interesting, and Frasier is a
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Marc: great representation of that.
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Marc: You think somebody's cool on the air?
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Marc: They get off the air.
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Marc: They are a train wreck or somebody's mild
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Marc: mannered on the air and they are mild
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Marc: mannered in real life but they go on the
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Marc: air and they're like boisterous.
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Marc: There's a movie from way back a long time
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Marc: ago called American Graffiti and Wolfman
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Marc: Jack is DJ and there's a scene when Richard
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Marc: Rifus walks in and he's talking to this guy
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Marc: and he doesn't realize that's the guy he's
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Marc: hearing on the radio.
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Marc: But it's two different personalities.
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Marc: But it's a grave.
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Marc: You ever seen American Graffiti?
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Marc: You?
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Announcer: know, but it's a.
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Marc: that's an old movie.
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Marc: But now we know your album, we know your CD.
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Marc: But the next question is if you were
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Marc: defined from the time you get up in the
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Marc: morning to the time you put your head down,
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Marc: you know, on the pillow at night.
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Marc: If you had a perfect day, what would be the
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Marc: component parts of that perfect day for you?
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Marc: The things you've done and experienced, or
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Marc: anything really?
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Anja: I think my answer would be.
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Anja: I guess it would be something simple Like
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Anja: wake up without an alarm, Go outside, have
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Anja: a nice walk with the dog, have some work
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Anja: today, you know probably go to set work on
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Anja: some scenes, come home, have dinner, chill,
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Anja: watch a movie.
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Anja: I think sometimes the things that seem
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Anja: boring are actually the best.
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Anja: That's what everybody says.
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Marc: You know, more than one person has, I mean
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Marc: I'd say at least half have mentioned coffee
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Marc: being the first thing, making coffee in the
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Marc: morning.
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Marc: I was speaking with Billy Magnuson and he
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Marc: said the ritual of making coffee in the
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Marc: morning.
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Marc: I'm like yes, that's a thing like grind my
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Marc: beans, do the thing.
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Marc: That's for me the way you know, totally,
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Marc: and I'm out of beans so I didn't start my
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Marc: day like that, so I feel a little off.
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Marc: But anything else in there, are you?
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Marc: You?
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Marc: Yeah, I mean, I love to read.
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Anja: I love to just like.
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Anja: I'm exploring lots of different movement in
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Anja: my life, so I want to take up maybe some
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Anja: martial arts.
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Anja: Yeah, I'm thinking about Taekwondo or
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Anja: something like that, just like I'm thinking
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Anja: about Taekwondo, something like that just
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Anja: to A be able to defend myself but also just
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Anja: challenge myself in a way, and I kind of
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Anja: like that they have all the belts that you
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Anja: have to earn and stuff and kind of gives
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Anja: you something to focus on.
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Anja: I think that's really cool.
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Anja: But yeah, just I think trying new skills,
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Anja: trying a new thing and learning something
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Anja: is always a good day for me.
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Anja: You know?
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Marc: Yeah, because as you get older it becomes a
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Marc: little bit of seductive, just to go with a
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Marc: thing that's comfortable and routine and
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Marc: it's kind of nice to break it up it is and
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Marc: to challenge yourself.
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Marc: I was thinking about that like the Tai Chi
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Marc: or yoga was a thing you know, just to stay
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Marc: limber, you know.
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Anja: I keep telling me that's on my agenda.
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Marc: I still want to do that Just to just to be
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Marc: limber, and people I know that are into it
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Marc: seem to be healthier generally.
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Anja: Have you done yoga before?
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Marc: Unintentionally.
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Anja: My back hurts.
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Anja: I have to do the stretch, yeah, but not
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Anja: actually I did a thing.
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Marc: I was in a car accident years ago and they
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Marc: were talking about had some herniated discs
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Marc: and they said well, you got to show me
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Marc: different exercises.
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Marc: I did.
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Marc: I remember doing a couple of them, thinking
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Marc: generally oh, I feel looser in other places
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Marc: too, so I need to do that.
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Marc: You should write a little note here, yoga
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Marc: yoga, I got to put that on my little daily,
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Marc: my notepad of things to do for the day, but
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Marc: at the top.
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Anja: Maybe, maybe you need to sign up for a
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Anja: class.
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Anja: I am my husband doesn't vary into yoga, but
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Anja: I signed me and him up for a class.
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Anja: That's once a week and it's super simple.
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Anja: It's it's yin yoga, so it's much more of
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Anja: like a deeper stretch yoga.
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Anja: It doesn't, you don't sweat as much.
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Anja: It's more like a deep stretch and he really
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Anja: loves it and it's new for him, but he's
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Anja: enjoying it.
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Anja: So I think, yeah, maybe if you push
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Anja: yourself to sign up.
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Marc: Well, one of the reasons I told my kids
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Marc: that I, that I wanted this destination to
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Marc: live on, this, this island is I got let's
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Marc: see which direction I got the beach 600
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Marc: feet that way, I think, so I can just go.
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Marc: You know, I got the beach like right there
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Marc: so I can go out, walk every day, get some
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Marc: exercise and and it's I just think it's
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Marc: being active becomes more and more Like.
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Marc: you become aware of it because you can be
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Marc: if I find myself being like.
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Marc: I'm been sedentary for a lot lately, a lot
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Marc: of the time lately, so I need to get moved.
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Anja: Totally, it's so easy to be.
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Marc: Well, you mentioned, you know you, having a
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Marc: dog.
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Marc: I had a wonderful golden retriever Almost
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Marc: exactly a year ago past and my heart's
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Marc: still broken, you know, but we're still
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Marc: we're starting to think about a puppy now,
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Marc: oh of course, oh, but thank you Now.
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Marc: But I I realized that having a dog keeps
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Marc: you far more active as well.
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Marc: Just that simple thing of getting out
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Marc: walking a few times a day, you know, going
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Marc: on adventures with your dog Absolutely.
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Anja: It does.
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Marc: I love it Now did you bring your dog on
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Marc: your on your road trip?
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Anja: I did?
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Anja: Yeah, we did.
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Anja: He lived with us in New Mexico and he was
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Anja: still a puppy then, so it was kind of his
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Anja: first home and the first time he saw snow.
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Marc: Oh, I think you put a picture on your
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Marc: Instagram of him, I think when he was
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Marc: sleeping or something.
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Anja: I did.
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Anja: He's super cute, his name's Ollie.
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Marc: Oh he is a cutie.
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Marc: He is a cutie.
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Marc: I'm a big dog person.
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Anja: Me too.
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Anja: I love dogs so much.
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Anja: I wanted a dog ever since I was a kid.
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Anja: We never had one growing up, so having one
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Anja: now is just it's a dream.
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Anja: I am so obsessed with him.
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Anja: It's like too much that person.
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Anja: I try to keep the pictures to a minimum,
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Anja: but I definitely like internally.
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Anja: I'm just so obsessed I.
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Anja: It's so cool to live with an animal.
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Marc: Nope, I say, post all the pictures you want.
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Marc: Dog people get it.
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Marc: You know, with with my golden he would be
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Marc: in the studio with me.
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Marc: Yeah that's true, you know, and it, it, it.
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Marc: I think I took it hard to read.
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Marc: Even my kids and I know it wasn't.
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Marc: They grew up with him from the time he was
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Marc: a little puppy and I wanted them to have a
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Marc: dog but, I, was realizing he was only 10,
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Marc: which is kind of young.
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Marc: You know for my experience with dogs.
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Anja: I was just young and goldens are so lovely.
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Marc: They're puppies their whole life, but
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Marc: they're also very very noble and very
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Marc: intelligent, smarter than me in many
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Marc: regards.
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Marc: You know he was and beautiful.
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Marc: Yeah, the only the only downside and
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Marc: there's not really a downside, just
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Marc: something you have to prepare yourself for
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Marc: and you have a golden Is she need a really
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Marc: good vacuum cleaner.
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Marc: They shed like crazy.
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Marc: You know, Anybody has a golden is me like
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Marc: hell, yeah, yeah.
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Marc: It's just, we're moving and he's, he's past
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Marc: and we're still finding somehow there are
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Marc: little bits of his hair have shown up here,
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Marc: 700 something miles away.
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Marc: I have some components of my studio sound
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Marc: booth that rely on some of the corners,
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Marc: like Velcro.
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Marc: There are little bits of his hair.
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Marc: They caught in the Velcro.
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Anja: Yeah, oh there.
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Anja: I'm sure there's hair in there forever.
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Anja: You'll never get that out.
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Anja: That's the glitter that you get from the
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Anja: dogs.
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Marc: Puppy yes, indeed.
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Marc: Now the last couple of questions I got for
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Marc: you is if you weren't doing this, if you
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Marc: weren't on camera enjoying, riding, doing
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Marc: the thing creatively you're doing, what
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Marc: else would you be doing?
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Marc: Could you see yourself doing?
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Anja: That's a good question.
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Anja: Also, I think when I was little I would
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Anja: have answered marine biologist, because
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Anja: everybody I know wanted to be a marine
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Anja: biologist for some reason.
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Anja: But I think now, if I could already have
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Anja: like the credentials behind me, I think I'd
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Anja: want to be something connected to like
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Anja: space or like astronomy or something to do
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Anja: with just what's out there.
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Anja: That's very cool.
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Marc: I mean there's a lot of wonder out there,
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Marc: there's a lot of the unknown which makes it
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Marc: like cool contemplation.
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Marc: But to actually, like you said, be
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Marc: credentialed, I spoke with Neil deGrasse
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Marc: Tyson some time ago last year.
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Anja: I was like what a cool job I saw that, I
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Anja: just think that's such a he came to mind,
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Anja: when I was just thinking that I mean here's
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Anja: somebody who studied the thing but still
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Anja: has some aspect of wonder to it.
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Marc: I'm like what?
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Announcer: infinitely jazzed to drive down.
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Marc: It's called Boca Chica Park.
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Marc: Well, it used to be a park.
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Marc: That's where SpaceX is located.
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Marc: Starbase is the name of the place.
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Marc: So cool and everybody I know I haven't seen
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Marc: a launch yet, because the last one happened
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Marc: right before we moved here.
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Marc: But they said you stand there and you
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Marc: actually can feel the vibrations in your
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Marc: chest of the rocket taken off, Like how
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Marc: cool is that?
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Marc: Wow.
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Marc: But, even when it exploded you could hear
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Marc: I've watched some video of it People were
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Marc: like cheering because the explosion looked
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Marc: really cool.
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Marc: But I've been watching, I've been kind of
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Marc: nerding out.
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Marc: There's a I'll give you my free little plug
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Marc: here.
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Marc: It's called WAI, what about it?
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Marc: I think there are these guys that follow
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Marc: what's going on and I'm kind of learning
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Marc: about the whole SpaceX ecosystem through
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Marc: these guys on YouTube.
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Marc: So cool.
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Marc: And they're talking about what's going on
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Marc: and I can go out my door, drive my car.
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Marc: My daughter and I take a drive and I'll see
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Marc: we have to cross a bridge to get into
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Marc: what's called Port Isabel and we're driving
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Marc: over the bridge.
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Marc: You can see the launch tower, the lights
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Marc: that blink for aircraft.
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Marc: You know it's cool.
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Marc: I mean I kind of nerd out on it.
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Marc: I get I turn into a kid all over again
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Marc: about anything's space.
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Marc: But hey, you never know, Maybe one day plan
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Marc: when you know they're.
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Marc: They said eventually they're going to get
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Marc: to, I think, 12 launches a month, which is
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Marc: just going to be crazy cool.
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Anja: So that's really cool.
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Marc: So would you ever be an astronaut, though?
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Marc: If you were given the opportunity and
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Marc: somebody said you can go on our next space
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Marc: station we're launching for three months,
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Marc: would you do it?
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Anja: It's funny because I was going to ask you
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Anja: that and I don't know if I'd have the guts.
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Anja: I think that is.
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Anja: Those people are so brave to just go out
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Anja: and deal with no gravity and float around
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Anja: and drink their water in those weird
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Anja: droplets.
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Anja: I don't, I don't know how the human body
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Anja: can even be there.
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Anja: I don't understand it.
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Anja: I don't want to be there.
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Marc: I would do it just because.
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Marc: I'm in this phase, like if I was younger
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Marc: I'd be like well.
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Marc: I want to make sure you know they're
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Marc: growing up.
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Marc: Now I'm in a phase of my life.
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Marc: I just turned 50 last year and I was like
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Marc: you know I want life experiences.
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Marc: If somebody offered me that opportunity and
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Marc: it was legit, you know, and it was like,
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Marc: and I was like, you know, what.
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Marc: Carpe diem.
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Marc: You know I might as well do it, but you're
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Marc: right.
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Marc: I also, on the other end of the scale, am a
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Marc: appreciation.
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Marc: I have a lot of appreciation for
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Marc: convenience and just something as simple as
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Marc: the showering which you can't do.
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Marc: You're just kind of giving yourself a towel
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Marc: bath every day, I think after a while.
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Marc: I think I don't know how those people were
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Marc: up there for like a year plus, you know.
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Anja: How do, like the organs function?
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Anja: How does how is anything working?
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Anja: I don't understand.
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Anja: How is the blood moving?
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Anja: I don't get it.
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Anja: I don't understand.
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Marc: It can't be good for you, I mean you have
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Marc: to have a certain amount of exercise every
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Marc: day, you know.
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Marc: But you know.
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Marc: Actually, a little nerd note for you, and I
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Marc: guess you would, next to Neil deGrasse
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Marc: Tyson, the only guest who would really
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Marc: appreciate it.
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Marc: I found out that they said that when, when
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Marc: your circadian rhythm, your clock is based
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Marc: on 24 hours down here, because you know 24
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Marc: hours on Earth, but when you go into space,
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Marc: your circadian rhythm recalibrates to 24.9
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Marc: hours a day, which is the rotation of Mars.
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Marc: So that's why they, that's why some of the
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Marc: people theoretically are going.
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Marc: It's possible we came from Mars, you know,
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Marc: and see here people talking about stuff
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Marc: like that.
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Marc: It just kind of adds a little wonder in
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Marc: there, like why, when you're in space,
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Marc: would you adjust?
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Marc: I don't know how accurate that is.
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Marc: It's fun to contemplate, but have you, did
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Marc: you see?
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Anja: did you see that NASA discovered another
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Anja: planet that's like seven times bigger than
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Anja: Earth and it has water, and basically, what
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Anja: is that about?
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Anja: That's insane.
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Anja: How are we not all talking about that?
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Anja: Screw Mars, yeah, they're like, let's go
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Anja: there.
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Anja: What are we doing?
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Marc: There was, I told you.
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Marc: I told you I was speaking with Shoray
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Marc: Agdashlu.
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Marc: I don't did you ever see a TV show?
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Marc: The Expanse, by any chance.
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Anja: No, but I know of it, I know of it.
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Marc: Oh, you must.
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Marc: Okay, I'm telling you that's gotta be on
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Marc: your reading.
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Marc: I told Neil deGrasse Tyson that he said it
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Marc: was on his list of things to watch, but he
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Marc: hadn't watched it because we were talking
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Marc: about which movie got it mostly right when
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Marc: it came to sci-fi, and I think he mentioned
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Marc: the Martian with Matt Damon.
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Anja: Cool.
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Anja: Yeah, I heard he did a great job.
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Marc: But this it's a realistic view into the
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Marc: future.
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Marc: You know what two 300 years would we be
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Marc: doing?
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Marc: You'd have people who've colonized Mars but
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Marc: you'd have people living in the asteroid
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Marc: belt because they do the mining and stuff.
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Marc: So you're starting to look at human nature
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Marc: and culture shot through the lens of
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Marc: something sci-fi, and it's very.
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Marc: It seems so plausible.
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Marc: It doesn't really seem like sci-fi, it's
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Marc: kind of like what if you know, Anyway, I
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Marc: mean I don't know if I've ever nerded out
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Marc: besides talking Neil deGrasse Tyson, but
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Marc: there you go.
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Marc: It's a little bit of my nerdness for you.
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Anja: No, that's fun.
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Anja: I'm getting more into sci-fi.
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Marc: It is so well, it's well written.
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Marc: The act, the ensemble, the cast, I think
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Marc: it's so well.
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Marc: It's everything about it so well done and
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Marc: you know season to see, and it's based off
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Marc: a book.
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Marc: So some of my nerd friends are like but did
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Marc: you read the books?
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Marc: Though?
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Marc: You know I was like, no, I'm too lazy for
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Marc: that.
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Anja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, You're like the show's
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Anja: enough.
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Marc: But you know, if you had the opportunity,
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Marc: you'd be working in astrophysics and in
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Marc: that ecosystem.
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Marc: That's very cool.
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Marc: That's very cool.
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Anja: Oh God, yeah, that would be fascinating.
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Anja: I mean, I don't know if I have the smarts
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Anja: for it, but if I could have the smarts for
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Anja: it and the credentials, that would be it
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Anja: for sure.
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Marc: You know, that's the thing that held me
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Marc: back math, you know so.
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Anja: Math is so hard, math is the worst.
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Marc: My daughter, like one of them, was talking
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Marc: about trigonometry and all that, and I
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Marc: don't want to let on how dumb their dad is
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Marc: when it comes to math.
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Marc: There's a certain point where I ask him do
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Marc: you need any help with that?
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Marc: And they almost want to pat me on the head
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Marc: like, oh, bless your heart, you know you're
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Marc: not going to be able to help me you know.
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Anja: But math is one of those things that once
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Anja: you lose track of where you are and the
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Anja: teacher is moving ahead, you're kind of
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Anja: screwed, you know.
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Anja: So that's the problem.
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Marc: Yeah, pretty much that you defined every
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Marc: math class I was in from the time I was in
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Marc: ninth grade.
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Marc: You know it's like, OK, I can't hit pause
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Marc: or rewind, it's just moving forward.
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Marc: Yeah, and they're not going to yeah, no
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Marc: tutoring is going to help this disaster
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Marc: area, but Too far gone.
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Marc: The last question I got for you if you were
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Marc: to jump in a DeLorean, go back in time and
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Marc: you travel back when you're 16 years old
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Marc: and you have a piece of advice, you have a
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Marc: moment with yourself to either put yourself
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Marc: on a better or a different track you think
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Marc: would be great, or to make your moment at
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Marc: 16 a little bit better.
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Marc: What would that advice be for younger Anya?
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Anja: I think it would be don't be so hard on
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Anja: yourself.
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Anja: I think when we're really young, we're
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Anja: always trying to be adult also and figure
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Anja: everything out.
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Anja: And I think I was just really hard on
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Anja: myself and I think that's the advice I'd
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Anja: give any teenager is just you are who you
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Anja: are, you're trying your best, you'll figure
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Anja: it out.
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Anja: Don't stress so much about the future.
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Anja: Chill out.
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Anja: Chill out a bit.
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Marc: Yeah, unfortunately don't have the wisdom
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Marc: at that age to realize this too shall pass.
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Anja: Yes, just that, even so simple right.
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Marc: If you knew it at that age, it would make
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Marc: so many things so much easier.
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Marc: There's a friend of mine who does.
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Marc: He's an acting coach and he has a book
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Marc: called If you Survive Seventh Grade, you
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Marc: Can Act.
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Marc: I think it's the name, but I know I'm
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Marc: mangling up the name of it, that idea of
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Marc: the awkwardness, everything going on in
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Marc: that moment.
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Marc: If you knew for a fact, things are going to
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Marc: get better.
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Marc: It's not a big deal.
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Marc: Oh, that would be so much.
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Marc: But you're living in an opposite world
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Marc: where everything's like dramatic.
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Anja: Oh God, yeah, especially at that age.
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Marc: But I so appreciate you taking time,
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Marc: spending some time with me today.
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Marc: It means a lot.
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Marc: It's so much fun.
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Marc: I enjoyed chatting in it.
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Marc: So nice to know there's another space nerd
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Marc: who likes Alan Watts out there in the world.
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Marc: It makes me feel good.
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Anja: Absolutely.
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Anja: Thank you for having me.
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Anja: I really enjoyed this.
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Marc: Hopefully we'll have a chance to connect
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Marc: down the line Anything I can do for you
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Marc: down the line, any new projects.
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Marc: When you come out with that movie about the
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Marc: stalker the radio stalker I want to be
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Marc: sitting in theater eating popcorn going.
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Marc: I know where she got that idea from.
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Anja: I'll make sure you're there at the premiere.
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Anja: Yeah, straight to offer, straight to offer.
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Marc: Well, you have a wonderful rest of your
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Marc: week and hopefully we'll have a chance to
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Marc: catch up soon.
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Anja: Thank you, Marc.
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Anja: This was lovely to chat.
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Marc: And hopefully we'll see you down here for a
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Marc: launch one day, that's wonderful, you know,
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Marc: I'm going to dork out if I can come.
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Anja: Ok bye, ok bye.
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Marc: All right, there you go.
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Marc: Anya Savchich Really enjoyed chatting with
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Marc: her.
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Marc: A fellow nerd, I dig it.
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Marc: I dig it.
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Marc: Make sure, if you haven't done so already,
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Marc: check out Louder Milk on Netflix A great
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Marc: Always enjoyed Ron Livingston.
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Marc: Whatever he's selling, I'm buying Love Ron
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Marc: Livingston.
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Marc: Stanicki Great movie.
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Marc: I'm going to check it out with my daughter,
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Marc: Oh, to be young again, right?
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Marc: Ok, have yourself a great one.
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