Asha Michelle Wilson

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Every time I finish a script and then have

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to start a new one the next week, I'm

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Asha Michelle Wilson: always like that last one I wrote is the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: last one I'll ever be able to write.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm never going to be able to write another

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Asha Michelle Wilson: one again.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That was it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But every other time I write another one.

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.

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Marc Preston: All right, here we go.

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Marc Preston: Another episode of Story and Craft.

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Marc Preston: How are you doing?

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Marc Preston: I'm Marc Preston and I'm so glad to have

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Marc Preston: you back for another episode.

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Marc Preston: If this is your first episode, hey, thanks

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Marc Preston: for checking it out.

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Marc Preston: Going to have a great one today.

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Marc Preston: Asha Michelle Wilson that is our guest.

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Marc Preston: We're talking about what it's like to

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Marc Preston: develop, write and run a television show.

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Marc Preston: You know from somebody who does that for a

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Marc Preston: living.

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Marc Preston: She also acts a little bit here and there.

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Marc Preston: Now Asha has written for TV shows like FX's

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Marc Preston: Archer and American Horror Story.

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Marc Preston: She's writing on the new Netflix show

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Marc Preston: that's going to be coming out called Agent

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Marc Preston: King, and she's developing a show right now

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Marc Preston: for Paramount Plus.

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Marc Preston: She stays very busy.

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Marc Preston: It's a great conversation about what it's

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Marc Preston: like to run a TV show.

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Marc Preston: Very interesting stuff.

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Marc Preston: Okay, so let's get right after it.

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Marc Preston: Today it's Asha Michelle Wilson Day, right

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Marc Preston: here on Story and Craft.

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Marc Preston: So how you doing today.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm doing well, Marc.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: How are you?

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Marc Preston: Fantastic.

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Marc Preston: Where are you?

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Marc Preston: Where are you joining me from today?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I am in Encino, California, in my home.

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Marc Preston: You know it's so funny.

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Marc Preston: I think I just spoke with somebody the

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Marc Preston: other day who lives in Encino.

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Marc Preston: So it's kind of a way to kind of get out of

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Marc Preston: the hustle and bustle of Can I say the

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Marc Preston: hustle and bustle I just want to phrase

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Marc Preston: this a number you use the hustle and bustle

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Marc Preston: of Los Angelesness, which in my time out

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Marc Preston: there I can appreciate the desire for a

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Marc Preston: lack of traffic.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I understand it's.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Also.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: The parking is way better.

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Marc Preston: So are you originally from Encino or did

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Marc Preston: you kind of gravitate out there just to be

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Marc Preston: in the business?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Well, when I first moved out here, I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: started in North Hollywood and then Studio

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Asha Michelle Wilson: City and then bought a house in Encino.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm originally from Southern Florida, so

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Asha Michelle Wilson: kind of a complete opposite side of the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: country.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I came specifically to Encino because I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: just found a house that I really liked.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That was really, and I needed to be as

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Asha Michelle Wilson: close as possible to any studio that I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: might have to work at.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So this felt equidistant enough, while

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Asha Michelle Wilson: still again having great parking.

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Marc Preston: Now did you head to Los Angeles for the

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Marc Preston: sake of acting, or was it writing?

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Marc Preston: Or was there a specific career goal when

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Marc Preston: you were heading out there, or was just

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Marc Preston: like anything I can do, I want to do it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I came out here knowing for a fact that I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: wanted to write scripted television.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That was the number one thing that I knew I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: wanted to do.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I also wanted to act, but I felt like I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: felt more confident in my writing abilities

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Asha Michelle Wilson: than my acting abilities.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Coming out here and I felt like gun to my

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Asha Michelle Wilson: head.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: If I could choose one, writing would be it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So that was really the impetus for coming

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Asha Michelle Wilson: out here.

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Marc Preston: You've been writing, of course, for some

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Marc Preston: different shows.

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Marc Preston: Do you find that it's more fun to work on

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Marc Preston: projects that are yours, or is it kind of

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Marc Preston: the ultimate goal for you to create your

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Marc Preston: own project and you're the writer, and then

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Marc Preston: you kind of delegate some of those duties?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Show Running has really been my number one

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Asha Michelle Wilson: goal.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I like working with other people and it is

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Asha Michelle Wilson: always fun to help somebody else make their

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think right now, my focus is making my

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Asha Michelle Wilson: dreams come true, for lack of a better

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Asha Michelle Wilson: phrase.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I really love all of the nitty-gritty stuff

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that goes into creating your own show even

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Asha Michelle Wilson: picking out the wigs that people have to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: wear and going into the post department and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: going through that whole process.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I think that's where my focus is now,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: after learning a lot from working on other

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Asha Michelle Wilson: people's shows.

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Marc Preston: Now mostly and I've always wondered this as

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Marc Preston: an actor, how often as a writer do you need

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Marc Preston: to be on set or on location, Like, for

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Marc Preston: instance, you wrote on American Horror

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Marc Preston: Story and I see Scream Queens, but I know

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Marc Preston: those are shot in New Orleans, At least

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Marc Preston: some of the, I think at least one of the

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Marc Preston: seasons.

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Marc Preston: It seems like nowadays, especially after

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Marc Preston: COVID, everybody can work remotely.

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Marc Preston: As long as you've got your computer in a

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Marc Preston: phone, you can be anywhere.

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Marc Preston: Or do they like you to be there?

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Marc Preston: What's kind of the protocol for that?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It really depends on the show and the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: showrunner.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They kind of can decide how they want to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: handle things.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think specifically on, you know, american

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Horror Story.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Some seasons were shot in Orleans, many

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Asha Michelle Wilson: were shot in LA.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: We had kind of one liaison between the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: writer's room and the set.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That would go, and the writer for the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: episode would often be on set as well.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Nowadays I know there are some directors

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Asha Michelle Wilson: who stay home and or stay in their own

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Asha Michelle Wilson: little thing and have the full thing set up.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I do think there is a certain energy to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: being on set that a lot of the writers that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I've spoken with and in my experience that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you just can't really beat being on set in

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Asha Michelle Wilson: a certain way.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And so you know I think people have

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Asha Michelle Wilson: different preferences.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: For sure I really miss being on set and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like being on set, so that's always

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Asha Michelle Wilson: something that I love, but it really

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Asha Michelle Wilson: depends on the show.

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Marc Preston: Well, one of the things I'm curious about.

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Marc Preston: I would never profess to be a professional

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Marc Preston: screenwriter, but I like to sometimes sit

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Marc Preston: down with final was it final draft?

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Marc Preston: Is that what it is?

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Announcer: I always forget the name of the software

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Announcer: but I'll fart around with it.

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Marc Preston: But I always kind of like looking at it

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Marc Preston: from is a hobby right now and maybe one of

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Marc Preston: these days I'll sell one.

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Marc Preston: Do you prefer the TV realm?

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Marc Preston: Because I mean, really that's more of a

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Marc Preston: writer's medium, where movies are more of a

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Marc Preston: director's medium.

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Marc Preston: Do you prefer TV?

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Marc Preston: Do you prefer, you know, feature length

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Marc Preston: films, or do you even have a preference?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I used to have a strong preference to TV.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think I was always a TV girl and I think

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Asha Michelle Wilson: there was maybe growing up a lot of people.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: If you said you wanted to work in Hollywood,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: they assumed you wanted to write movies,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: because no one really thought about writing

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Asha Michelle Wilson: TV as an option in those days.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I think I really dug my heels in of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: knowing that no, I want to do TV, not

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Asha Michelle Wilson: movies, because people were just telling me

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that I had to write movies.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But now, having written both, I really

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Asha Michelle Wilson: enjoy both.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think I I I slightly have more of a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: preference towards television because I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like the longer format of telling a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: character's story through multiple episodes,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: multiple seasons and getting to see the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: supporting character's story, which you

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Asha Michelle Wilson: don't get to see as much of in a feature

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Asha Michelle Wilson: length film.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But on the flip side of it, I do think that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: features have the nice thing of just having

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that fully rounded story and you can kind

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Asha Michelle Wilson: of tell that beginning, middle end and take

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the audience on its own journey.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I would say 10% more.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I like TV storytelling more.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, there is.

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Marc Preston: I always thought it was interesting how the

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Marc Preston: two are different, you know, and how you

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Marc Preston: can cycle through different directors on a

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Marc Preston: show and it's, and after a while,

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Marc Preston: especially if the show has been on for a

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Marc Preston: while from the people I've spoken with the

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Marc Preston: actors, that is there is almost like an

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Marc Preston: ownership that they take for the character,

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Marc Preston: because it doesn't matter who's directing,

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Marc Preston: they kind of already know who they are, you

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Marc Preston: know.

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Marc Preston: So have you ever seen the Netflix show Love,

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Marc Preston: the Jet Apatow produced?

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Marc Preston: Yeah, there's kind of a whole storyline

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Marc Preston: that the lead is actually ends up being a.

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Marc Preston: I don't know if you ever really wrote.

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Marc Preston: I think you had a story treatment, I forgot,

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Marc Preston: but I kind of showed the writer's room and

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Marc Preston: kind of like, you know, it seemed like

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Marc Preston: almost like a war room at times.

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Marc Preston: Is that kind of the you know?

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Marc Preston: You know, you know, when you got a number

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Marc Preston: of writers together, is it sort of a battle

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Marc Preston: a little bit?

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Marc Preston: Or, you know, for like, who can kind of get

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Marc Preston: You know what's that like in a writing room?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think, again, it does depend on the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: showrunner.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It's funny the thing you said about

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Asha Michelle Wilson: directing.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I had a director friend of mine once say

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that coming on to direct an episode of a TV

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Asha Michelle Wilson: show is kind of like being a step parent.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Like you have some power, but not too much

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Asha Michelle Wilson: power and you kind of don't want to step on

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Asha Michelle Wilson: toes.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But you know you have to be there.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But on the writer's room side of things, I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: think you know there are some comedy rooms

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm definitely the first to do something

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Asha Michelle Wilson: My mom really loves writing novels.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: We watched a lot of movies and watch a lot

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I think they definitely handed off some

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But no, no one was really in the

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Marc Preston: Well, that's cool.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Yeah, I also just realized I misused the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I think growing up there was definitely

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I feel like anyone who writes comedy in

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think Mel Brooks was really a big one for

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Marc Preston: Satire is, I mean, well executed is so

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Marc Preston: You know, Nobody took any of it seriously,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think Mel Brooks and Richard Pryor

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the right way, but you know, I think Mel

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I don't know if anyone could beat it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So maybe they shouldn't, not just on a

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Marc Preston: I remember in elementary school watching

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think that writing just came easier.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Maybe it was just because you can write on

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I would write stories in journals that I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I would get journals for Christmas and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But at the same time I went to theater camp

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Asha Michelle Wilson: with my friends and sometimes I was in it,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't think anyone ever told me that.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It just felt like that was what I was going

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So it felt like if I wanted to be on camera

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It's usually dialogue.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It's usually I have a big note-tap on my

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That's just funny lines that I'll come up

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the only one who did that.

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Marc Preston: Thank you that you kind of validated my

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Marc Preston: We can form a club.

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Marc Preston: But of course you got to fill in everything

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Yeah, for sure.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know I'm brought on to them, so the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: have the characters.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I sort of then flesh out the characters of,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like, okay, this person said this sarcastic

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Asha Michelle Wilson: thing, why would they say that, and what's

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Asha Michelle Wilson: their character background, and the person

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Asha Michelle Wilson: who responded, same thing.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And then you know, I'll kind of take it

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Asha Michelle Wilson: from there, unless I mean, there are times

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Asha Michelle Wilson: when I have a story idea that is more of a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: plot driven thing, and then I have to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: figure out, okay, who would be the most

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Asha Michelle Wilson: funny people to make this plot interesting,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: or the most you know Interesting people to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: make this plot fun.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, sometimes when I'm writing I they say

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Marc Preston: the common theory is don't cast it while

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Marc Preston: you're writing it.

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Marc Preston: But you know, in my mind when you're

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Marc Preston: writing it don't you automatically start

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Marc Preston: getting Personality traits and physicality

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Marc Preston: and things that some actor may represent.

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Marc Preston: So when you're writing, do you do that?

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Marc Preston: I'm not necessarily you're casting it, but

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Marc Preston: kind of where you can have a visualization

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Marc Preston: in your head of who's saying these words.

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Marc Preston: You know, do you do that?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Every so often it depends on the project.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: There there was a project that I wrote very

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Asha Michelle Wilson: specifically with myself and a British

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Asha Michelle Wilson: actor comedian in mind, and when I was in

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Asha Michelle Wilson: London last year I met with him and now

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Asha Michelle Wilson: he's on the project.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So sometimes it does work out, yes.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Um other times, you know, I think there are

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Asha Michelle Wilson: some projects where I've Written it with a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: specific actor in mind and then within the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: next year the actor becomes so huge that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: they I'm sure they are Booked out for four

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Asha Michelle Wilson: years and I'm like who knows if they'll be

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Asha Michelle Wilson: able to do this project.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So you know, it could go both ways, but I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: do think it can help to have a type in mind,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like, even if it's not physically, then if

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Asha Michelle Wilson: it's just someone who you know can do a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: certain kind of comedy, like I think, you

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Asha Michelle Wilson: know, the style of comedy that Tiffany

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Haddish does is very different than the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: style of comedy that, let's say, issa Rae

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Asha Michelle Wilson: does.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know they have different styles and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: different ways of speaking in different

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Asha Michelle Wilson: mannerisms and if I was writing a character,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you know, keeping in mind the way that one

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Asha Michelle Wilson: speaks over the other might just help make

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the read more interesting of someone

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Asha Michelle Wilson: reading that script or sending it to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: someone make, really making it feel like,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: oh, this is a character who I can

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Asha Michelle Wilson: understand, the way they speak and the way

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Asha Michelle Wilson: their comedy is coming through, because you

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Asha Michelle Wilson: had someone in mind.

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Marc Preston: Now I got a question is an actor and I

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Marc Preston: think I want to ask this question on behalf

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Marc Preston: of many other actors why are there so many

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Marc Preston: rewrites?

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Announcer: You know what?

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Marc Preston: exactly is the impetus for the rewrite good?

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Marc Preston: Because if you're kind of day of, you know

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Marc Preston: you're shooting a scene, is it you know?

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Marc Preston: Is it just you have a lot of chefs in the

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Marc Preston: kitchen sometimes, or is it that it's a

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Marc Preston: constant creative process?

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Marc Preston: Something maybe sparks like, oh gosh,

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Marc Preston: before they did, let me, let me, let me

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Marc Preston: throw this idea out there.

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Marc Preston: Or is it just driven that somebody in the

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Marc Preston: production chain says, hey, let's, let's

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Marc Preston: change this up a little bit?

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Marc Preston: When you see rewrites or request for

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Marc Preston: rewrites, or when they come in, what's what

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Marc Preston: really is the impetus for it typically?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Yeah, I think.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think, when it comes to rewrites, the two

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Asha Michelle Wilson: most important things are you need them to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like it enough to spend money to make it

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and you need to like it to care enough to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: make it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And some, you know you have to keep those

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Asha Michelle Wilson: things in balance and I think there are

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Asha Michelle Wilson: often a lot of voices between actors,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: producers, directors, even sometimes, you

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Asha Michelle Wilson: know, the Production manager could be like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: can we make this?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know a less expensive location?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know, can we use one of our standing

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Asha Michelle Wilson: sets, can we?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know a second AD is gonna be calling

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you asking questions about that.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And so I think there are a lot of reasons

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Asha Michelle Wilson: why things get rewritten.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think in the earlier steps of the process

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and the sort of development stages, things

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Asha Michelle Wilson: get rewritten because you want the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: executives to like it enough to push it

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Asha Michelle Wilson: forward, and you know.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And then once you get more people on board,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you know, sometimes a director will come on

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Asha Michelle Wilson: board and have a great idea for a character

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Asha Michelle Wilson: moment.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That happened to me recently, um, and so

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that caused a rewrite.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And then an actor has come on board for a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: project and that happened on a different

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Asha Michelle Wilson: project once where they were like oh, this

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Asha Michelle Wilson: situation that you wrote for my character

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Asha Michelle Wilson: actually happened to me in real life.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Do you mind adding a few lines or pieces of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: dialogue based on the real situation?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was like, oh yeah, because that's very

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Asha Michelle Wilson: funny and it's gonna be more true to you.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But then, once you actually get into

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Asha Michelle Wilson: production, a lot of those changes tend to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: be ways to make it less expensive, whether

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Asha Michelle Wilson: it's, like I said, moving something onto a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: set, or you know, we can't get that indoor

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Asha Michelle Wilson: location.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Can it be an exterior?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Or you know, you wrote this as day, can it

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Asha Michelle Wilson: be night or vice versa, and that usually

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Asha Michelle Wilson: tends to be the bigger changes.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, that's got to be rough sometimes,

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Marc Preston: because you know when you change one piece

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Marc Preston: it affects everything down the line

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Marc Preston: sometimes.

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Marc Preston: So you got to think, okay, where did this

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Marc Preston: go?

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Marc Preston: And you know that's, maybe that's when

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Marc Preston: you're working in a team.

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Marc Preston: That makes it a little bit easier because

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Marc Preston: somebody may catch it and go hey, by the

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Marc Preston: way, if we, if we change it tonight, then

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Marc Preston: the very next couple few scenes or it may

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Marc Preston: do something.

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Marc Preston: But for somebody who's not really

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Marc Preston: acquainted, what or even how do you define

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Marc Preston: showrunner?

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Marc Preston: What is a showrunner in your mind?

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Marc Preston: They're, they're Creative and business and

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Marc Preston: whatever responsibility in the process of

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Marc Preston: getting a show, getting a show made.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: In the simplest terms, a showrunner is an

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Asha Michelle Wilson: executive producer and the head writer of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the writers room of the show.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They're often not always the person who

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Asha Michelle Wilson: created the show, who initially came up

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Asha Michelle Wilson: with the concept or was brought onto the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: project.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Sometimes they can be someone else that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: came in to help shepherd the project along,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: but I think you know in More of like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: metaphorical terms, they are kind of the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: captain of the ship.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think the tone of a set and of a writer's

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Asha Michelle Wilson: room is brought on by the showrunner.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: The people who are hired are often friends

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Asha Michelle Wilson: or past co-workers of the showrunner, and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: so they really do set the bar for how

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Asha Michelle Wilson: things are going to be run.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They're running the show, and so a lot of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the decisions that are made On a show when

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you watch it and you're like you know when

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Asha Michelle Wilson: it comes to the costumes or who was cast or

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Asha Michelle Wilson: what location it was or whatever are Often

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Asha Michelle Wilson: times the showrunner's choices.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They can also be the network execs choices,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to be fair, but you would want it to be the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: showrunner because that's their vision.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That's being made most of the time.

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Marc Preston: I think writing has got to be one of those

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Marc Preston: real, like any writer, anything like that,

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Marc Preston: where you're just sitting, you blank page

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Marc Preston: Well, it's really a blank blinking cursor,

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Marc Preston: you know, on a screen, and it's all.

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Marc Preston: It's got to be really a lot of

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Marc Preston: self-starting, a lot of motivation Starting

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Marc Preston: internally, which begs the question you

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Marc Preston: know this is almost like homework, at least.

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Marc Preston: Is it?

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Marc Preston: Were you good in school?

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Marc Preston: I mean, was school like your jam?

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Marc Preston: I mean, is that?

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Marc Preston: Were you a creative writer in school?

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Marc Preston: Is this where are?

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Marc Preston: Were you just like a daydreamer?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was a little bit of both, I think I.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I always wanted, I loved TV and I loved

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Asha Michelle Wilson: escaping through the world of TV.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I and I was good in school.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I, I think, looking back on it at the time,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think I was harder on myself.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was like, oh, I was never good.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And like math and science, my mom was like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you got solid A's and B's.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't know what you're talking about, but

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Asha Michelle Wilson: maybe I just didn't like it that much.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But, um, yeah, I think it's.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It's funny.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You say the thing about the blinking cursor.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was just telling a friend the other day I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: was like every time I finish a script and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: then have to start a new one the next week,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm always like that last one I wrote is

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the last one I'll ever be able to write.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm never gonna be able to read another one

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Asha Michelle Wilson: again.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That was it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But every other time I read another one.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I think and I think I was a little bit

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like that in school I think the blank page

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Asha Michelle Wilson: can be quite daunting, but I really like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Connecting with people.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I felt that same way, like I said, in

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Asha Michelle Wilson: school it was.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was on, you know, the newspaper and the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: yearbook and high school theater and, you

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Asha Michelle Wilson: know, student councils and all of that.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I liked working with people and talking

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Asha Michelle Wilson: with people and connecting with them and I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: think TV is now my way to do that, in which

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I get paid.

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Marc Preston: Well, did you go to college for this, or

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Marc Preston: where did you go?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to college.

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Marc Preston: Where'd you go?

719

00:24:17,259 --> 00:24:19,531

Asha Michelle Wilson: Yes, I went to Elon University in North

720

00:24:19,571 --> 00:24:22,704

Asha Michelle Wilson: Carolina liberal arts school and I studied

721

00:24:22,784 --> 00:24:24,729

Asha Michelle Wilson: a major that no longer exists there, that

722

00:24:24,769 --> 00:24:26,373

Asha Michelle Wilson: was media arts and entertainment.

723

00:24:27,442 --> 00:24:28,484

Asha Michelle Wilson: They renamed it.

724

00:24:28,544 --> 00:24:31,071

Asha Michelle Wilson: They renamed it because they realized it

725

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Asha Michelle Wilson: didn't cover enough.

726

00:24:32,941 --> 00:24:35,227

Asha Michelle Wilson: But I minored in narrative cinema because

727

00:24:35,247 --> 00:24:37,072

Asha Michelle Wilson: again it was like, oh, you can only do film.

728

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But my senior year I convinced the Dean of

729

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Communications to let me do an independent

730

00:24:43,439 --> 00:24:45,906

Asha Michelle Wilson: study In which I just read books about TV

731

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and watched TV and wrote a bunch of pilots

732

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and specs really cool, that's.

733

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That's like.

734

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Thank you.

735

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Marc Preston: I think a lot of people in different

736

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Marc Preston: creative careers.

737

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Marc Preston: I don't say that they know Everything that

738

00:24:57,242 --> 00:24:58,446

Marc Preston: they need to learn, but they know where to

739

00:24:58,487 --> 00:25:00,152

Marc Preston: start looking and kind of, you know, be

740

00:25:00,192 --> 00:25:01,979

Marc Preston: curious and just you know, as a

741

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Marc Preston: screenwriter, I mean, I'm assuming a few

742

00:25:03,725 --> 00:25:05,962

Marc Preston: folks are gonna listen to this who Want to

743

00:25:05,982 --> 00:25:07,930

Marc Preston: do that or are already doing it.

744

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Marc Preston: I think the last one I read I didn't

745

00:25:09,938 --> 00:25:10,440

Marc Preston: actually read it.

746

00:25:10,881 --> 00:25:12,445

Marc Preston: I I'm actually looking at it right now, but

747

00:25:12,646 --> 00:25:13,628

Marc Preston: I bought the book.

748

00:25:13,648 --> 00:25:14,891

Marc Preston: Then I got the audiobook because I was.

749

00:25:14,972 --> 00:25:17,169

Marc Preston: You know, I'm lazy, apparently this save

750

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Marc Preston: the cat.

751

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Marc Preston: Oh yes, what are some of your favorite

752

00:25:19,884 --> 00:25:21,167

Marc Preston: screenwriting books?

753

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Marc Preston: If you're gonna give like a top three or

754

00:25:23,392 --> 00:25:25,537

Marc Preston: something for people to dive into, you know,

755

00:25:25,557 --> 00:25:29,270

Marc Preston: I Would say for for movie writing.

756

00:25:30,161 --> 00:25:31,104

Asha Michelle Wilson: Save the cat is great.

757

00:25:31,144 --> 00:25:33,130

Asha Michelle Wilson: I think it's a really great baseline of

758

00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:35,849

Asha Michelle Wilson: like Knowing which tent poles you have to

759

00:25:35,869 --> 00:25:37,618

Asha Michelle Wilson: hit in a story and how to build that

760

00:25:37,678 --> 00:25:40,429

Asha Michelle Wilson: structure For a fun one.

761

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That is not necessarily how to write a

762

00:25:42,959 --> 00:25:45,508

Asha Michelle Wilson: story, but I think says a lot about TV, tv

763

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Asha Michelle Wilson: writing.

764

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Kristen Newman, I think, is her name, wrote

765

00:25:49,761 --> 00:25:51,507

Asha Michelle Wilson: what I was doing while you were breeding,

766

00:25:51,968 --> 00:25:54,015

Asha Michelle Wilson: which is about her kind of travel

767

00:25:54,055 --> 00:25:55,740

Asha Michelle Wilson: adventures while also being a TV writer,

768

00:25:56,202 --> 00:25:57,587

Asha Michelle Wilson: and I think there's a lot of behind the

769

00:25:57,647 --> 00:26:00,643

Asha Michelle Wilson: scenes of Working in this industry that she

770

00:26:01,285 --> 00:26:03,650

Asha Michelle Wilson: talks about and along with her other

771

00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:05,474

Asha Michelle Wilson: adventures that are amazing.

772

00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:09,060

Asha Michelle Wilson: And then I would say honestly this isn't a

773

00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:12,708

Asha Michelle Wilson: book, but I think reading as many scripts

774

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Asha Michelle Wilson: as you can that was really what I did in my

775

00:26:15,255 --> 00:26:17,081

Asha Michelle Wilson: independent study until still do a lot To

776

00:26:17,101 --> 00:26:20,822

Asha Michelle Wilson: this day is just getting my hands on, you

777

00:26:20,862 --> 00:26:23,232

Asha Michelle Wilson: know, my favorite TV scripts and movie

778

00:26:23,272 --> 00:26:26,724

Asha Michelle Wilson: scripts and seeing how they wrote Character

779

00:26:26,744 --> 00:26:28,990

Asha Michelle Wilson: descriptions and how they wrote dialogue,

780

00:26:29,090 --> 00:26:30,594

Asha Michelle Wilson: and it's very cool.

781

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Marc Preston: They say it's one page per minute, roughly

782

00:26:33,184 --> 00:26:35,791

Marc Preston: right, but if I maybe I think it's Quentin

783

00:26:35,811 --> 00:26:36,315

Marc Preston: Tarantino.

784

00:26:36,396 --> 00:26:37,415

Marc Preston: I read one of his screenplays.

785

00:26:37,435 --> 00:26:39,196

Marc Preston: I looked over one of his screenplays and

786

00:26:39,216 --> 00:26:42,016

Marc Preston: there is a lot of specificity in what's

787

00:26:42,037 --> 00:26:43,595

Marc Preston: supposed to be happening on the screen and

788

00:26:43,636 --> 00:26:45,001

Marc Preston: so of course that's gonna make the script

789

00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:46,399

Marc Preston: fatter, you know, because there's so much

790

00:26:46,419 --> 00:26:48,240

Marc Preston: description, but I kind of like that as an

791

00:26:48,361 --> 00:26:48,622

Marc Preston: actor.

792

00:26:48,715 --> 00:26:50,941

Marc Preston: I think that makes that kind of lets

793

00:26:51,062 --> 00:26:52,726

Marc Preston: theater of the mind kind of come into play.

794

00:26:52,835 --> 00:26:54,361

Marc Preston: Let you know what's happening before you

795

00:26:54,401 --> 00:26:55,103

Marc Preston: even get on set.

796

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Marc Preston: I know I'm kind of in the weeds on this,

797

00:26:58,855 --> 00:27:00,376

Marc Preston: but I'm kind of curious when you write, do

798

00:27:00,496 --> 00:27:03,144

Marc Preston: you put little things that are like set

799

00:27:03,184 --> 00:27:04,960

Marc Preston: dressing or the way the light is or

800

00:27:05,041 --> 00:27:07,722

Marc Preston: something that there may be characters,

801

00:27:07,802 --> 00:27:08,424

Marc Preston: mannerisms.

802

00:27:08,595 --> 00:27:09,936

Marc Preston: Do you like to put that in there or do you

803

00:27:09,956 --> 00:27:11,883

Marc Preston: like to focus mostly just on dialogue?

804

00:27:13,315 --> 00:27:15,016

Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't tend to do too much of it because I

805

00:27:15,056 --> 00:27:17,416

Asha Michelle Wilson: feel like that can often step on the way

806

00:27:17,456 --> 00:27:19,216

Asha Michelle Wilson: the director might wanna do something or

807

00:27:19,236 --> 00:27:20,942

Asha Michelle Wilson: the way the actor might wanna do something.

808

00:27:21,255 --> 00:27:23,276

Asha Michelle Wilson: You know, I also work in animation and I've

809

00:27:23,296 --> 00:27:25,138

Asha Michelle Wilson: written on Archer and in that, you know, I

810

00:27:25,178 --> 00:27:27,316

Asha Michelle Wilson: really have to put in, you know, certain

811

00:27:27,396 --> 00:27:29,536

Asha Michelle Wilson: fight stuff and things like that, because

812

00:27:29,556 --> 00:27:30,600

Asha Michelle Wilson: the animators need that.

813

00:27:31,215 --> 00:27:32,259

Asha Michelle Wilson: So you have to kind of say, you know, like

814

00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:34,060

Asha Michelle Wilson: this character clothesline's another

815

00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:35,860

Asha Michelle Wilson: character like a wrestler kind of thing.

816

00:27:36,875 --> 00:27:39,624

Asha Michelle Wilson: But in live action stuff I do it a lot less

817

00:27:39,915 --> 00:27:42,063

Asha Michelle Wilson: unless I feel like it's vital for

818

00:27:42,163 --> 00:27:43,900

Asha Michelle Wilson: understanding what's happening in the scene.

819

00:27:44,335 --> 00:27:46,483

Asha Michelle Wilson: So in terms of like the lighting kind of

820

00:27:46,543 --> 00:27:48,301

Asha Michelle Wilson: thing, there was something I was writing

821

00:27:48,341 --> 00:27:50,902

Asha Michelle Wilson: recently where a character you think

822

00:27:50,922 --> 00:27:52,878

Asha Michelle Wilson: they're gonna get attacked in a shower and

823

00:27:53,019 --> 00:27:55,215

Asha Michelle Wilson: lighting really had to be like psycho in

824

00:27:55,235 --> 00:27:57,439

Asha Michelle Wilson: the shower scene, and so I write that in

825

00:27:57,499 --> 00:27:59,758

Asha Michelle Wilson: because it does speak to how you're kind of

826

00:27:59,819 --> 00:28:01,404

Asha Michelle Wilson: visualizing it as you're reading it.

827

00:28:01,815 --> 00:28:04,775

Asha Michelle Wilson: But most of the time I stay away from it so

828

00:28:04,795 --> 00:28:06,936

Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't step on the other people I will be

829

00:28:06,956 --> 00:28:08,542

Asha Michelle Wilson: collaborating with with the script.

830

00:28:08,955 --> 00:28:10,641

Marc Preston: The writing is kind of well.

831

00:28:10,661 --> 00:28:11,564

Marc Preston: It's kind of two rails.

832

00:28:11,936 --> 00:28:13,201

Marc Preston: One is you come up with this whole idea

833

00:28:13,221 --> 00:28:14,858

Marc Preston: that's yours and you've come up with it and

834

00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,397

Marc Preston: try to get you know, bought, or you come

835

00:28:17,437 --> 00:28:19,418

Marc Preston: into an existing production and you are one

836

00:28:19,538 --> 00:28:20,181

Marc Preston: of the writers.

837

00:28:20,455 --> 00:28:22,102

Marc Preston: Do you have a preference on one or the

838

00:28:22,182 --> 00:28:22,323

Marc Preston: other?

839

00:28:22,395 --> 00:28:24,000

Marc Preston: Do you like to come into something that's

840

00:28:24,121 --> 00:28:28,122

Marc Preston: already in flow and to kind of write to the

841

00:28:28,162 --> 00:28:30,396

Marc Preston: tone of what's already going on, or do you

842

00:28:30,417 --> 00:28:31,675

Marc Preston: like to kind of create your own thing and

843

00:28:31,695 --> 00:28:33,081

Marc Preston: let it, you know, focus on that.

844

00:28:34,975 --> 00:28:39,486

Asha Michelle Wilson: You know, on paper they would seem kind of

845

00:28:40,757 --> 00:28:41,199

Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't know.

846

00:28:41,259 --> 00:28:47,304

Asha Michelle Wilson: Actually, I think if I'm working on someone

847

00:28:47,345 --> 00:28:50,643

Asha Michelle Wilson: else's show, if it's a story or a type of

848

00:28:50,683 --> 00:28:53,096

Asha Michelle Wilson: comedy that I can really connect to, that's

849

00:28:53,297 --> 00:28:54,561

Asha Michelle Wilson: the most important thing to me.

850

00:28:55,215 --> 00:28:56,896

Asha Michelle Wilson: But you know, when it's your story, there

851

00:28:56,936 --> 00:28:58,683

Asha Michelle Wilson: is a certain passion that you have for it

852

00:28:58,815 --> 00:29:00,661

Asha Michelle Wilson: that is just can make it a little bit more

853

00:29:00,721 --> 00:29:01,223

Asha Michelle Wilson: exciting.

854

00:29:02,055 --> 00:29:05,916

Asha Michelle Wilson: So on paper I would prefer, you know, kind

855

00:29:05,976 --> 00:29:08,925

Asha Michelle Wilson: of making my own story come through.

856

00:29:09,155 --> 00:29:11,183

Asha Michelle Wilson: But you know it can be a lot harder.

857

00:29:11,275 --> 00:29:12,259

Asha Michelle Wilson: There's a lot more pressure.

858

00:29:12,339 --> 00:29:13,062

Asha Michelle Wilson: The stakes are on you.

859

00:29:13,135 --> 00:29:14,516

Asha Michelle Wilson: When you're in someone else's room it's

860

00:29:14,556 --> 00:29:16,182

Asha Michelle Wilson: like going to someone else's party.

861

00:29:16,255 --> 00:29:18,516

Asha Michelle Wilson: You're not worried if the dip is full or if

862

00:29:18,556 --> 00:29:20,796

Asha Michelle Wilson: you know someone clogs the bathroom or if

863

00:29:20,816 --> 00:29:23,400

Asha Michelle Wilson: there's not guests there, but if it's your

864

00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:26,142

Asha Michelle Wilson: party, it sounds like some very specific

865

00:29:26,475 --> 00:29:30,522

Asha Michelle Wilson: and interesting party notes, like there's a

866

00:29:30,562 --> 00:29:31,525

Asha Michelle Wilson: little thought that went into this.

867

00:29:31,575 --> 00:29:32,580

Marc Preston: Maybe that's the writer in UJ.

868

00:29:32,775 --> 00:29:33,698

Marc Preston: You don't think just party.

869

00:29:33,718 --> 00:29:34,520

Marc Preston: Okay, what's going on?

870

00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,403

Marc Preston: How full is the dip?

871

00:29:35,704 --> 00:29:38,282

Marc Preston: Specifics, somebody's having anxiety attack

872

00:29:38,375 --> 00:29:39,299

Marc Preston: because there's no plunger.

873

00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:40,216

Marc Preston: You know that's.

874

00:29:40,376 --> 00:29:50,538

Marc Preston: Um, let's say you are writing on a show and

875

00:29:50,558 --> 00:29:54,423

Marc Preston: it is a very well established celebrity, an

876

00:29:54,524 --> 00:29:55,225

Marc Preston: actor, performer.

877

00:29:55,870 --> 00:29:56,697

Marc Preston: It doesn't make it a little bit easier

878

00:29:56,717 --> 00:29:57,927

Marc Preston: because you know, like, if you're writing

879

00:29:57,948 --> 00:29:59,816

Marc Preston: for Seth Rogan or for somebody that's

880

00:29:59,916 --> 00:30:02,104

Marc Preston: really you know their tone.

881

00:30:02,124 --> 00:30:04,472

Marc Preston: Does it make it easier or harder for you to

882

00:30:04,512 --> 00:30:06,316

Marc Preston: kind of get you know down the middle and

883

00:30:06,357 --> 00:30:07,038

Marc Preston: hit the crosshairs?

884

00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:13,617

Asha Michelle Wilson: I just had this come up with a very, very

885

00:30:13,938 --> 00:30:19,612

Asha Michelle Wilson: well-known, award-winning actress, and I

886

00:30:19,732 --> 00:30:23,702

Asha Michelle Wilson: think, on one hand, let's say, if it's

887

00:30:23,762 --> 00:30:26,890

Asha Michelle Wilson: something that like, if it's a character

888

00:30:26,910 --> 00:30:28,638

Asha Michelle Wilson: that you know well, if it's not a new

889

00:30:28,679 --> 00:30:30,186

Asha Michelle Wilson: character this actress is playing, let's

890

00:30:30,226 --> 00:30:31,915

Asha Michelle Wilson: say it can make it a little easier because

891

00:30:31,935 --> 00:30:33,865

Asha Michelle Wilson: you know the baseline of it, you know the

892

00:30:33,905 --> 00:30:35,894

Asha Michelle Wilson: certain mannerisms that this character has.

893

00:30:38,253 --> 00:30:40,397

Asha Michelle Wilson: But if it's the specific actor, that can be

894

00:30:40,417 --> 00:30:43,523

Asha Michelle Wilson: a little nerve-wracking because you know

895

00:30:43,863 --> 00:30:45,813

Asha Michelle Wilson: you want it to be something that they can

896

00:30:45,873 --> 00:30:46,996

Asha Michelle Wilson: connect to and understand.

897

00:30:47,116 --> 00:30:52,475

Asha Michelle Wilson: And you know, like, yeah, I just saw the

898

00:30:52,616 --> 00:30:55,343

Asha Michelle Wilson: unbearable weight of massive talent, the

899

00:30:55,424 --> 00:30:58,132

Asha Michelle Wilson: Nicholas Cage movie and I went to a.

900

00:30:58,573 --> 00:30:59,858

Asha Michelle Wilson: It was great, I loved it.

901

00:31:00,351 --> 00:31:02,941

Asha Michelle Wilson: I went to a Q the event it was a WGA event

902

00:31:02,982 --> 00:31:04,849

Asha Michelle Wilson: and they had a Q&A with the director and

903

00:31:04,889 --> 00:31:07,238

Asha Michelle Wilson: writers afterwards and they were talking

904

00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:09,488

Asha Michelle Wilson: about having written this really as a love

905

00:31:09,548 --> 00:31:11,737

Asha Michelle Wilson: letter to Nick Cage, but also sending it to

906

00:31:11,797 --> 00:31:13,925

Asha Michelle Wilson: him and kind of having that worry of like

907

00:31:14,207 --> 00:31:15,813

Asha Michelle Wilson: ooh, I hope he doesn't think we're making

908

00:31:15,933 --> 00:31:16,556

Asha Michelle Wilson: fun of him.

909

00:31:17,652 --> 00:31:19,220

Asha Michelle Wilson: And I related to that because when you're

910

00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,970

Asha Michelle Wilson: writing something specifically for an actor,

911

00:31:21,973 --> 00:31:23,537

Asha Michelle Wilson: there's a fine line you have to walk.

912

00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:26,895

Asha Michelle Wilson: And so I do like it, though, because I

913

00:31:26,955 --> 00:31:29,441

Asha Michelle Wilson: think it can get again make that character

914

00:31:29,481 --> 00:31:32,837

Asha Michelle Wilson: very specific to the person, but there is

915

00:31:32,877 --> 00:31:34,441

Asha Michelle Wilson: some pressure to it as well.

916

00:31:34,750 --> 00:31:36,959

Marc Preston: Some people may allude to some of the

917

00:31:37,019 --> 00:31:39,329

Marc Preston: projects he's in, like, oh dear lord, you

918

00:31:39,349 --> 00:31:41,034

Marc Preston: give him a great script, great movie, he

919

00:31:41,094 --> 00:31:42,519

Marc Preston: knocks it out of the park every time.

920

00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:45,758

Marc Preston: You know, I think there's something like.

921

00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:47,925

Marc Preston: I'm in New Orleans and somebody once told

922

00:31:47,965 --> 00:31:50,175

Marc Preston: me that you know, because all the

923

00:31:50,215 --> 00:31:52,025

Marc Preston: cemeteries here are above ground like

924

00:31:52,066 --> 00:31:53,553

Marc Preston: crypts, you know, they're not like, they

925

00:31:53,674 --> 00:31:54,417

Marc Preston: don't weird.

926

00:31:54,490 --> 00:31:55,834

Marc Preston: I didn't think I'd discuss cemeteries on

927

00:31:55,854 --> 00:31:56,936

Marc Preston: this show ever, but here we go.

928

00:31:59,030 --> 00:32:00,514

Marc Preston: But he apparently the sea level.

929

00:32:00,534 --> 00:32:02,219

Marc Preston: You have to bury people above ground.

930

00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,353

Marc Preston: You know, if he's listening, google New

931

00:32:04,393 --> 00:32:05,757

Marc Preston: Orleans Cemetery, you'll see.

932

00:32:05,777 --> 00:32:06,359

Marc Preston: I'm not that weird.

933

00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:07,872

Marc Preston: But apparently his is.

934

00:32:07,912 --> 00:32:08,995

Marc Preston: He created one that was.

935

00:32:09,176 --> 00:32:10,439

Marc Preston: Somebody said it was a pyramid.

936

00:32:11,150 --> 00:32:12,454

Marc Preston: So whenever he dies he's like I'm like.

937

00:32:12,816 --> 00:32:14,110

Marc Preston: Some people may think what a weirdo I'm

938

00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:14,290

Marc Preston: like.

939

00:32:14,451 --> 00:32:14,851

Marc Preston: You know what?

940

00:32:15,012 --> 00:32:17,476

Marc Preston: Everything he does is just his own Nicholas

941

00:32:17,497 --> 00:32:20,542

Marc Preston: Cage creative thing you know, I'm like you,

942

00:32:20,562 --> 00:32:21,204

Marc Preston: gotta love that.

943

00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:23,034

Asha Michelle Wilson: Something the director said.

944

00:32:23,535 --> 00:32:24,618

Asha Michelle Wilson: Something the director said that I really

945

00:32:24,698 --> 00:32:27,516

Asha Michelle Wilson: liked was that they it had to be specific

946

00:32:27,556 --> 00:32:29,133

Asha Michelle Wilson: to Nick Cage, it was written for him and

947

00:32:29,173 --> 00:32:32,252

Asha Michelle Wilson: thank God he said yes, because he does have

948

00:32:32,292 --> 00:32:36,740

Asha Michelle Wilson: this wild array of film that he's done, but

949

00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,732

Asha Michelle Wilson: he also has such like universal public love

950

00:32:39,812 --> 00:32:43,100

Asha Michelle Wilson: and support and like memeification that you

951

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Asha Michelle Wilson: don't see in a lot of actors, and so I'm

952

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like, hey, I love that he has a crypt.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That's amazing.

954

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Marc Preston: Now I see comedy showing up a few times.

955

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Marc Preston: You've mentioned you mentioned Saturday

956

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Marc Preston: Night Live.

957

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Marc Preston: I had some of the programs you've worked on.

958

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Marc Preston: Do you have a preference on genre?

959

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Marc Preston: Would you like to work on?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think I always gravitate towards comedy.

961

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Usually the ideas I came up with I come up

962

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Asha Michelle Wilson: with I want to have.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So if I come up with like a sci-fi idea,

964

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Asha Michelle Wilson: it's a sci-fi comedy, if it's fantasy,

965

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Asha Michelle Wilson: fantasy comedy.

966

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I think, you know, after leaving horror

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Asha Michelle Wilson: story, I think I had a little bit of time

968

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Asha Michelle Wilson: where I was like I just want to do comedy

969

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and nothing else.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But now I'm sort of coming back around to

971

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Asha Michelle Wilson: more genre, heavy genres in terms of like

972

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Asha Michelle Wilson: sci-fi, little bit of horror, fantasy sort

973

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Asha Michelle Wilson: of thing, just because I think there's a

974

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Asha Michelle Wilson: lot to explore in that world, especially

975

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Asha Michelle Wilson: when it comes to comedy.

976

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Again, you know you have Blazing Saddles

977

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that was a Western comedy and Spaceballs,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: space Comedy, and so I think I really love

979

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Asha Michelle Wilson: blending those and I also I really love a

980

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Asha Michelle Wilson: romance.

981

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That's just my ooey-gooey heart.

982

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I am a romantic optimist and so I like a

983

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Asha Michelle Wilson: happy ending.

984

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I like a happy ending, kiss.

985

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So yeah, I think those are the ones I'm

986

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Asha Michelle Wilson: gravitating towards most right now, which

987

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Asha Michelle Wilson: is all of them, I guess.

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Marc Preston: I mean, I guess it's a great vocation for

989

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Marc Preston: someone who's got, who's a little lady HD.

990

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Marc Preston: Not saying that, I mean, is the

991

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Marc Preston: entertainment business after all, but the

992

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Marc Preston: whole idea that you can go from genre to

993

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Marc Preston: genre, you can go to the.

994

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Marc Preston: If you get kind of like kind of not tired,

995

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Marc Preston: but you're kind of burnt on one thing,

996

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Marc Preston: maybe you're like oh, man I could do this

997

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Marc Preston: thing, though, and now you're reinspired.

998

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Marc Preston: So you know you're not relegated to just

999

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Marc Preston: one thing.

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Marc Preston: Now, as far as shows go like what's on

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Marc Preston: right now that's inspiring you or that you

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Marc Preston: just hey, it could be just something you

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Marc Preston: like watching, because you can just kind of

Speaker:
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Marc Preston: chill out and not even think, and you know,

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Marc Preston: what do you like watching?

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Marc Preston: Maybe the writers for the shows you think

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Marc Preston: are just excellent.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know, I know everyone always talks

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Asha Michelle Wilson: about this show, but I think it's worthy of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: As Abad Elementary, I think I have a few

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Asha Michelle Wilson: mutual friends with Quinta.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't really know her personally but I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: think, having seen her at parties and

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00:34:45,782 --> 00:34:49,008

Asha Michelle Wilson: events and stuff, I'm just really I'm just

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Asha Michelle Wilson: in awe of how she was able to make such a

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00:34:52,761 --> 00:34:57,753

Asha Michelle Wilson: fun, smart show that just kind of crossed

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Asha Michelle Wilson: well just across the board.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Everybody loves it and I think that's just

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Asha Michelle Wilson: incredible and it's so great and it is

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00:35:05,431 --> 00:35:06,573

Asha Michelle Wilson: again a heartwarming watch.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I also I really loved the Gilded Age.

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00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:15,776

Asha Michelle Wilson: I just enjoyed watching that story and the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: kind of escapism of it was fun and I'm

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1025

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Asha Michelle Wilson: trying to think if there's any.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And I'm a sucker for adult animation.

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00:35:22,879 --> 00:35:24,303

Asha Michelle Wilson: I love a Bob's Burgers.

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1028

00:35:25,025 --> 00:35:26,850

Asha Michelle Wilson: I loved Archery before I wrote on it and

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1029

00:35:26,890 --> 00:35:27,512

Asha Michelle Wilson: still love it.

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Marc Preston: Really Well, that's got to be kind of cool

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1031

00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:30,759

Marc Preston: to like something and then you show up in

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1032

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Marc Preston: the room and like, oh, I'm one of the

Speaker:
1033

00:35:31,905 --> 00:35:32,650

Marc Preston: people doing it.

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Marc Preston: I remember I used to watch Family Guy.

Speaker:
1035

00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:34,701

Marc Preston: Back in the day.

Speaker:
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00:35:34,741 --> 00:35:36,347

Marc Preston: My kids used to call it Daddy Cartoon.

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1037

00:35:37,310 --> 00:35:38,233

Marc Preston: Now it's like.

Speaker:
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00:35:38,695 --> 00:35:40,902

Marc Preston: Now they love watching it and of course, as

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1039

00:35:40,922 --> 00:35:43,130

Marc Preston: teenage older teenagers they get far much

Speaker:
1040

00:35:43,191 --> 00:35:43,773

Marc Preston: more of the humor.

Speaker:
1041

00:35:44,816 --> 00:35:46,382

Marc Preston: But you know, you mentioned something about

Speaker:
1042

00:35:46,422 --> 00:35:47,486

Marc Preston: sci-fi or fantasy.

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00:35:47,547 --> 00:35:50,377

Marc Preston: Have you caught Outer Range on?

Speaker:
1044

00:35:50,458 --> 00:35:52,285

Marc Preston: I think it's on Amazon Prime, josh Brolin.

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1045

00:35:52,767 --> 00:35:53,349

Asha Michelle Wilson: I haven't.

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00:35:53,851 --> 00:35:55,196

Marc Preston: It's one of those shows like you're

Speaker:
1047

00:35:55,216 --> 00:35:56,401

Marc Preston: watching going okay, all right, they're

Speaker:
1048

00:35:56,421 --> 00:35:57,023

Marc Preston: going a little bit here.

Speaker:
1049

00:35:57,264 --> 00:35:59,050

Marc Preston: No, like you're like holy shit, okay.

Speaker:
1050

00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:02,582

Marc Preston: This is a thing I always like being taken

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1051

00:36:02,642 --> 00:36:04,728

Marc Preston: out, caught off guard, like I didn't expect

Speaker:
1052

00:36:04,748 --> 00:36:05,230

Marc Preston: something.

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00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:07,241

Asha Michelle Wilson: Oh, I fully understand that One of the

Speaker:
1054

00:36:07,301 --> 00:36:08,825

Asha Michelle Wilson: shows that was actually probably my

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Asha Michelle Wilson: favorite show of this year so far was

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1056

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Reacher.

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00:36:12,341 --> 00:36:13,787

Announcer: I loved Reacher that was great and I think

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1058

00:36:13,807 --> 00:36:15,153

Announcer: it really surprised me.

Speaker:
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00:36:15,695 --> 00:36:18,003

Asha Michelle Wilson: I loved it and I think I really was along

Speaker:
1060

00:36:18,043 --> 00:36:18,564

Asha Michelle Wilson: for the ride.

Speaker:
1061

00:36:18,605 --> 00:36:20,329

Asha Michelle Wilson: I was really caught off guard by a lot of

Speaker:
1062

00:36:20,349 --> 00:36:22,386

Asha Michelle Wilson: the elements of it and I just I think about

Speaker:
1063

00:36:22,406 --> 00:36:22,849

Asha Michelle Wilson: that show a lot.

Speaker:
1064

00:36:22,869 --> 00:36:23,754

Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm surprised I didn't come in my head

Speaker:
1065

00:36:23,775 --> 00:36:23,915

Asha Michelle Wilson: first.

Speaker:
1066

00:36:23,935 --> 00:36:24,700

Asha Michelle Wilson: That is so funny.

Speaker:
1067

00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,364

Marc Preston: You said that because I saw that and I was

Speaker:
1068

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Marc Preston: like there's not.

Speaker:
1069

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Marc Preston: It's not just the way it's written, but

Speaker:
1070

00:36:29,381 --> 00:36:31,090

Marc Preston: there's kind of a rhythm and a cadence to

Speaker:
1071

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Marc Preston: how the lines are delivered.

Speaker:
1072

00:36:32,156 --> 00:36:33,763

Marc Preston: There's a overall seemed like an overall

Speaker:
1073

00:36:33,804 --> 00:36:35,190

Marc Preston: concept about the way the show is done.

Speaker:
1074

00:36:35,933 --> 00:36:37,520

Marc Preston: I like going okay, I don't see anything

Speaker:
1075

00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,613

Marc Preston: else like this on TV.

Speaker:
1076

00:36:38,696 --> 00:36:40,702

Marc Preston: I like that, you know, and with so much out

Speaker:
1077

00:36:40,785 --> 00:36:43,186

Marc Preston: there, all the streamers and everything, it

Speaker:
1078

00:36:43,207 --> 00:36:44,373

Marc Preston: seems like everything that could be out

Speaker:
1079

00:36:44,393 --> 00:36:44,937

Marc Preston: there is out there.

Speaker:
1080

00:36:44,977 --> 00:36:46,622

Marc Preston: So it's nice to be surprised, Like oh, I

Speaker:
1081

00:36:46,663 --> 00:36:47,404

Marc Preston: didn't see this coming.

Speaker:
1082

00:36:47,424 --> 00:36:49,549

Marc Preston: Yeah, now the now.

Speaker:
1083

00:36:49,569 --> 00:36:50,110

Marc Preston: I did see you got.

Speaker:
1084

00:36:50,551 --> 00:36:51,373

Marc Preston: You got BET.

Speaker:
1085

00:36:52,805 --> 00:36:54,391

Marc Preston: You're on the list of six black women show

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1086

00:36:54,411 --> 00:36:56,217

Marc Preston: runners who inspired TV's diverse

Speaker:
1087

00:36:56,418 --> 00:36:56,799

Marc Preston: renaissance.

Speaker:
1088

00:36:56,819 --> 00:37:00,633

Marc Preston: That's like kind of a cool recognition Do

Speaker:
1089

00:37:00,653 --> 00:37:01,957

Marc Preston: you feel yeah, no pressure yeah.

Speaker:
1090

00:37:02,158 --> 00:37:02,720

Marc Preston: That was just about.

Speaker:
1091

00:37:02,921 --> 00:37:04,688

Marc Preston: That was going to be the follow up

Speaker:
1092

00:37:05,311 --> 00:37:06,958

Marc Preston: Hollywood being Hollywood, the industry

Speaker:
1093

00:37:06,978 --> 00:37:07,480

Marc Preston: being what it is.

Speaker:
1094

00:37:07,741 --> 00:37:09,208

Marc Preston: Once you start getting some attention, is

Speaker:
1095

00:37:09,248 --> 00:37:09,469

Marc Preston: there?

Speaker:
1096

00:37:09,570 --> 00:37:11,559

Marc Preston: Is there kind of like now people are paying

Speaker:
1097

00:37:11,579 --> 00:37:12,482

Marc Preston: attention, this is game day.

Speaker:
1098

00:37:12,522 --> 00:37:13,284

Marc Preston: I got to perform.

Speaker:
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00:37:13,445 --> 00:37:13,946

Marc Preston: How does that?

Speaker:
1100

00:37:14,126 --> 00:37:15,811

Marc Preston: How does that affect you to to now be

Speaker:
1101

00:37:16,220 --> 00:37:18,207

Marc Preston: coming on folks, coming on folks radars?

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00:37:19,572 --> 00:37:22,000

Asha Michelle Wilson: Yeah, I think you know, in a lot of ways it

Speaker:
1103

00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:23,404

Asha Michelle Wilson: just makes me think about the difference

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Asha Michelle Wilson: between public success and private success.

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00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:29,771

Asha Michelle Wilson: I think during lockdown I was honestly

Speaker:
1106

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Asha Michelle Wilson: working more than I ever had.

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00:37:31,696 --> 00:37:33,603

Asha Michelle Wilson: I was pitching almost every day and I was

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Asha Michelle Wilson: in general meetings and I was writing hours

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and hours I would.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was in London and I was working from 10am

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Asha Michelle Wilson: until 5pm.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: When I got into a Zoom writer's room from

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Asha Michelle Wilson: 5pm until midnight and then I'd write till

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00:37:47,083 --> 00:37:49,188

Asha Michelle Wilson: 3am and then sleep and then wake up and do

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1115

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Asha Michelle Wilson: it again and nobody knew about anything I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: was working on.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It was all just like my private kind of

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00:37:54,973 --> 00:37:55,454

Asha Michelle Wilson: success.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And then fast forward to now when it's

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00:37:58,924 --> 00:38:00,889

Asha Michelle Wilson: amazing to be on lists and these articles

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00:38:00,949 --> 00:38:03,302

Asha Michelle Wilson: coming out and having more eyes on me in

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00:38:03,322 --> 00:38:03,904

Asha Michelle Wilson: that way.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I think, you know, in a weird way it's

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1124

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Asha Michelle Wilson: not necessarily as fulfilling as the kind

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00:38:10,243 --> 00:38:11,891

Asha Michelle Wilson: of private success that you get from just

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Asha Michelle Wilson: being enjoying the stuff that you're

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Asha Michelle Wilson: working on.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I think for me I just try to focus on

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like I'm so lucky to get to do this, this

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Asha Michelle Wilson: thing I've been dreaming of doing since I

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1131

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Asha Michelle Wilson: was six and you know I don't usually.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm sure there's like one day a month where

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I have a lot of anxiety about it, but most

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Asha Michelle Wilson: of the time, you know, it's kind of the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I get to work on a show that once I dressed

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Asha Michelle Wilson: as a character on Halloween as like I get

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00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,970

Asha Michelle Wilson: you know like things like that that are

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Asha Michelle Wilson: just really cool and exciting, and I think

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that helps keep everything leveled.

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Marc Preston: Now, do you have any siblings?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I have half siblings on my dad's side quite

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Asha Michelle Wilson: a few, but I'm my mom's only kid.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But actually last summer I flew out my

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00:38:55,399 --> 00:38:56,222

Asha Michelle Wilson: oldest half sister.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: She's 19 now.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: She was 18 at the time and I flew her out

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to LA and that was really exciting to kind

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Asha Michelle Wilson: of like see LA through her eyes.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: She, you know, wanted to see the Hollywood

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Walk of Fame and all of that.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But none of them work in entertainment, so

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm kind of the only one that's in this.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, whenever I go to LA, to me it's

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Marc Preston: always an eating expedition.

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Marc Preston: You know it's always like in and out.

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Marc Preston: I try to.

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Marc Preston: You know I was a big fan of Anthony

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Marc Preston: Bourdain and his thing was always when he

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Marc Preston: gets out, when he lands at LAX, he always

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Marc Preston: goes in and out burger.

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Marc Preston: I'm like that became my thing.

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Marc Preston: I always do that now because of him.

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Marc Preston: It's my like peng homage in a greasy way.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, I love that.

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Marc Preston: But I'm always curious because folks who do

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Marc Preston: this my intrigue is okay a lot of people

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Marc Preston: who do it are either only children or maybe

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Marc Preston: they have older siblings, but they're kind

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Marc Preston: of in their own head a lot, for whatever

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Marc Preston: reason.

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Marc Preston: You know, like my generation.

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Marc Preston: You know I was speaking with LaMonica

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Marc Preston: Garrett recently and we're talking about

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Marc Preston: how you know your latchkey kids back in the

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Marc Preston: day.

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Marc Preston: You're kind of left alone.

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Marc Preston: You're in your own head doing your own

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Marc Preston: thing where you kind of as a kid creative

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Marc Preston: like you need your own creative.

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Marc Preston: Like you time or are you very gregarious?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I also want to say you have a Bourdain like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: voice, which is I'm a huge fan of his, so

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that's a big comment.

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Marc Preston: He's my spirit animal.

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Marc Preston: I appreciate that.

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Marc Preston: Oh great, I'm going to carry that around

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Marc Preston: the rest of the day.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Good, I'm glad you should.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think I was also a latchkey kid and, but

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I I was an outgoing kid.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I moved around a lot growing up.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I didn't go to a school for more than two

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Asha Michelle Wilson: years until high school, so I was kind of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: all over the place.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I had to sort of be outgoing and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: energetic and make friends.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was kind of the kid who went up to people

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Asha Michelle Wilson: on the playground and was like, do you want

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to be my friend?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And most of the time they said yes, and so

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you know I wasn't very shy at all.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I really liked doing like impressions that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I wasn't good at.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I liked doing accents for people.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I was definitely more gregarious.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's so funny how many of the people

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Marc Preston: in this industry were actually.

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Marc Preston: They're actually fundamentally more shy,

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Marc Preston: more reserved, but when they're on camera

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Marc Preston: it's like you know, but what are you

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Marc Preston: working on now?

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Marc Preston: What's coming up in the pipeline?

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Marc Preston: Either things that are already kind of in

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Marc Preston: the queue, or things maybe you're wanting

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Marc Preston: to kind of get into a queue.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I'm in development with Paramount Plus

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Asha Michelle Wilson: right now on a project that's a remake

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Asha Michelle Wilson: reboot, I guess of the 1990s film Soap Dish

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that started with Goldberg and Sally Fields,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and so we're kind of in that process right

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Asha Michelle Wilson: now.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And then I'm pitching out a few projects.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm also working on season 14 of Archer,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: which is exciting, and I'm also working on

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Asha Michelle Wilson: a movie with Vanessa Hudgens and Alexandra

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Ship that the amazing Kimmy Gatewood is

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Asha Michelle Wilson: going to direct, and so we're kind of in

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Asha Michelle Wilson: early development on that as well and so

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Asha Michelle Wilson: kind of, you know, got a few different

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Asha Michelle Wilson: fires going and moving them all forward.

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Marc Preston: And I don't know how you do that, because I

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Marc Preston: got to focus on one thing at a time.

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Marc Preston: I say that I've got all kinds of crap going

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Marc Preston: on in my three teenagers.

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Marc Preston: But Paramount Plus, they're putting out

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Marc Preston: some good stuff.

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Marc Preston: I was a big fan of 1883.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Yeah, that's like their biggest hit.

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Marc Preston: The Paramount Plus thing is that something

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Marc Preston: rough ETA.

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Marc Preston: And well, of course you know, man plans,

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Marc Preston: god laughs, of course.

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Marc Preston: But I mean what, what, what, especially in

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Marc Preston: this business?

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Marc Preston: When is that?

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Marc Preston: When are you thinking that make your next

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Marc Preston: project could be rolling out?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Well I did Well.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: In terms of the next project that I have

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Asha Michelle Wilson: coming out, the project that I worked on, a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: show for Netflix called Agent King that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: should be coming out this fall.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: In terms of the Paramount project, that is

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Asha Michelle Wilson: still a little unknown.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm hoping sooner rather than later, but I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: think in this industry it's kind of always

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like you said you make a plan and execs

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Asha Michelle Wilson: laugh.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Really I think you should say but but

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Asha Michelle Wilson: hoping sooner rather than later for

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Asha Michelle Wilson: everything, really.

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Marc Preston: Well, that's pretty cool.

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Marc Preston: We'll tell you what I do before before we

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Marc Preston: wrap up always have what I call my seven

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Marc Preston: questions, purely just fun.

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Marc Preston: First question I always love asking because

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Marc Preston: I'm a food guy I mentioned Anthony Bourdain

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Marc Preston: says, right down the middle of where I'm at

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Marc Preston: what is your favorite comfort food?

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Marc Preston: That thing that's like if you've had a

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Marc Preston: rough day or maybe it's a whole lot of work,

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Marc Preston: you're like you know you could go eat

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Marc Preston: healthy, but you know I'm just going to go

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Marc Preston: get this or maybe it.

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Marc Preston: Maybe your comfort food is healthy, who

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Marc Preston: knows?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I really love cooking and a meal that, if

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I've had a rough day, that is actually like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: not difficult to put together but really

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Asha Michelle Wilson: soothes my soul, is I'll make a steak and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: mashed potatoes and put like a bunch of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: truffle salt on it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And that feels like a little elevate, yeah,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and it feels a little fancy and very like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: warm and cozy, but does not take long to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: put together.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, you're kind of like me.

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Marc Preston: It's like, what's that one little thing you

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Marc Preston: can do to kind of like make a seem a little

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Marc Preston: fancier, especially what's nice when you're

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Marc Preston: doing it just for yourself.

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Marc Preston: You're like, look, I made this.

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Marc Preston: You know nobody's around the notice, but

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Marc Preston: you're proud of yourself.

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Marc Preston: Now, if you were to sit down with three

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Marc Preston: people for a cup of coffee and it'd be a

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Marc Preston: living or not who would those three people

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Marc Preston: be?

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Marc Preston: Would love to talk story with for a few

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Marc Preston: hours?

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Marc Preston: I was.

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Marc Preston: Whenever I asked this question.

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Marc Preston: I always get the coffee bean and tea leaf

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Marc Preston: across from the director's guild on sunset.

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Marc Preston: That's that coffee shop always comes to my

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Marc Preston: mind whenever I ask this question.

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Marc Preston: So, because I guess that's where he's to

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Marc Preston: post up with my computer and do work.

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Marc Preston: But who would you like to sit down with?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Madeleine Khan, kevin Klein love him and I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and Tracy Ellis Ross.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think she'd just be fun.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know, madeleine.

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Marc Preston: Khan is funny.

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Marc Preston: Going back to Mel Brooks movie, yeah,

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Marc Preston: frankenstein, what am I?

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Marc Preston: Drawing brain.

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Marc Preston: How can I brain fart, madeleine?

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Marc Preston: Khan I had like a little.

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Marc Preston: I remember being a kid kid have a little

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Marc Preston: micro crush on her Like it's like she was

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Marc Preston: micro crush.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: macro crush Come on.

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Marc Preston: She, she was.

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Marc Preston: I mean, because I was a kid, she was older,

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Marc Preston: but she's funny, I was like I like that,

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Marc Preston: that's cool, man.

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Marc Preston: Now that brings me actually to my next

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Marc Preston: question who was your celebrity crush when

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Marc Preston: you were a kid?

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Marc Preston: Oh, when I was a kid, oh hey you want to

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Marc Preston: bring up who it is now we're going to take

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Marc Preston: that answer also, no worries.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was gonna say I don't know if I have one

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Asha Michelle Wilson: now, they're all great.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: When I was a kid, I think Okay, when I was

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Asha Michelle Wilson: really little, it was a classic Jonathan

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Taylor Thomas type.

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Announcer: Oh yeah.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That was definitely like my first onscreen

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Asha Michelle Wilson: one.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Also, Jeremy Sumter from the live action

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Peter Pan was a big one.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Those were like my first, like oh my gosh,

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00:45:24,125 --> 00:45:26,379

Asha Michelle Wilson: they're so pretty kind of crushes for sure.

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Marc Preston: When you only have three networks.

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Marc Preston: I mean you had these big teen heartthrobs

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Marc Preston: that were like, okay, now you got a

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Marc Preston: gazillion different shows on.

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00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:35,767

Marc Preston: It's not like everybody's watching, you

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Marc Preston: know.

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Marc Preston: Anyway, I'm getting that time machine over

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Marc Preston: and over again and just go tell my kids

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Marc Preston: like, say there were three networks much

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Marc Preston: upon a time.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Back in my day.

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Marc Preston: Now the next question I got if you were to

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Marc Preston: go to an exotic island, it's actually

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Marc Preston: somewhere you want to be.

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Marc Preston: You're gonna be there a year, though, and

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Marc Preston: there's no streaming or nothing.

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Marc Preston: You can bring a DVD of a movie, and you can

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Marc Preston: bring one album with you for a year, and

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Marc Preston: that's all your entertainment.

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Marc Preston: What are you gonna bring with you?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: The movie would be Clueless.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I love that movie.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: The album would probably be oh gosh, I'm

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Asha Michelle Wilson: blanking on the exact name of it, but it's

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong

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Asha Michelle Wilson: duets album, that's.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It's like a very thick album, but that one

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think they just.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I love their voices together.

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Marc Preston: Very good, very good.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's funny, clueless, I think, as

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Marc Preston: some of the most memorable dialogue.

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Marc Preston: I mean, there's so many quotes from that

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Marc Preston: movie but it's kind of not got lost in time,

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Marc Preston: but you gotta have to remember the movie

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Marc Preston: that you know, I remember it, I remember it

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Marc Preston: enough for a lot of people, I think.

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Marc Preston: Now, if you were to sit down from the time

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Marc Preston: you're to define a perfect day, what would

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Marc Preston: that perfect?

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Marc Preston: What would the component parts be of that

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Marc Preston: perfect day?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Okay, I would probably schedule the day

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Asha Michelle Wilson: around food.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So if I could do like a nice big breakfast

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Asha Michelle Wilson: in the morning with like blueberry pancakes

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and like bacon and eggs, and then I would

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Asha Michelle Wilson: want to oh, part of me wants to just say

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Disneyland actually as the whole day.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I'm gonna go for big breakfast, maybe

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Asha Michelle Wilson: going to the beach and then having like a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: nice lobster roll by the beach and then

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Asha Michelle Wilson: going to see, like you know what I really

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Asha Michelle Wilson: loved, this would actually be a part of my

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Asha Michelle Wilson: perfect day.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I remember the Hollywood Bowl used to do

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Asha Michelle Wilson: these shows where they would play a movie

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like, let's say, beauty and the Beast or

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Asha Michelle Wilson: something, and they'd have actors come in

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to sing the songs and then there was a live

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Asha Michelle Wilson: orchestra playing in these watching the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: movie.

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Marc Preston: I think I remember hearing about that yeah,

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Marc Preston: they were amazing.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They did the Little Mermaid and they were

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Asha Michelle Wilson: just, really just nice moments and I would

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Asha Michelle Wilson: probably want to do that at night and then

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Asha Michelle Wilson: maybe in the in-between, take like a tap

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Asha Michelle Wilson: dancing class for fun or something, and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: probably write at some point.

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Marc Preston: No, that's funny.

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Marc Preston: So the big breakfast Anthony Bourdain

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Marc Preston: mentioning that, and one of the things he

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Marc Preston: turned me onto, the idea of like it doesn't

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Marc Preston: have to be a sweet whatever.

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Marc Preston: You have a big bowl of like Asian noodles,

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Marc Preston: but it's spicy.

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Marc Preston: So I've kind of got a thing.

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Marc Preston: Well, it's the Texas part of me.

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Marc Preston: I like a.

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Marc Preston: I have some called chili chilies which are

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Marc Preston: really big, like kind of a spicy big.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Oh, I love spicy.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: If I could end the day with a bowl of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: cereal, that would really like cap

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Asha Michelle Wilson: everything off.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I love spicy in general.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was gonna say so I'm a big fan of that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Very good, very good.

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Marc Preston: Okay, now the next question I've got If you

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Marc Preston: weren't doing this, you weren't doing

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Marc Preston: something in this creative realm.

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Marc Preston: But they said, okay, no more movies or TV.

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Marc Preston: What would your vocation be?

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Marc Preston: What would be the thing that turns you on?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Oh my God, I think I just was thinking

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Asha Michelle Wilson: about this the other day.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: My answer used to always be like I'd like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to like own a bakery in Europe or something

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and, just, you know, make cookies and stuff.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But lately I've kind of I mean, if I really

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Asha Michelle Wilson: couldn't do movies or TV, I'd probably

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Asha Michelle Wilson: write books, like I'd probably write beachy

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Asha Michelle Wilson: rom-com books about like characters that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: have to fake a relationship in order to go

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to a wedding or something, just because I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: think those make a lot of people happy and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: they're very fun.

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Marc Preston: You said BG rom-com.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: A beach read, beach read, rom-com.

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Marc Preston: Beach read oh okay, I gotcha.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Yes, the very light, fluffy, heartwarming

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Asha Michelle Wilson: kind of books.

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Marc Preston: But the last question I've got for you if

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Marc Preston: you had a DeLorean, you can cruise back in

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Marc Preston: time and connect with 16 year old Asha.

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Marc Preston: What piece of advice would you offer

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Marc Preston: yourself?

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Marc Preston: That would be to get you on a better track

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Marc Preston: or maybe to bring more joy to your life.

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Marc Preston: In that moment, what would you tell

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Marc Preston: yourself?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: To try and live in the moment as much as

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Asha Michelle Wilson: possible.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think when you're, I was a kid who knew

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Asha Michelle Wilson: what I wanted to do.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I knew I wanted to write TV, especially by

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Asha Michelle Wilson: 16.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And so much of my life was, like you know,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the kind of cliche teenager.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I gotta get out of this town and make it to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the city and no part of me wants to go back

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and relive high school or college at all.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But you know, I think I wanted to grow up

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Asha Michelle Wilson: very quickly.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I wanted to, you know, be where I am now,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to be honest, and where I am now is great.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But where I was then was great too, and I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: think it's hard to remember that sometimes.

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Marc Preston: So I'd probably say that it's funny

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Marc Preston: speaking with Neil deGrasse Tyson and

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Marc Preston: asking him the same thing and he's like

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Marc Preston: that's kind of a farcical question.

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Marc Preston: I mean I understood his perspective because

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Marc Preston: anything, there you're creating a whole new

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Marc Preston: universe for yourself because every thing

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Marc Preston: happens.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Creating paradoxes, of course.

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Marc Preston: Exactly, you know so Well.

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Marc Preston: I so appreciate your time again and I wish

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Marc Preston: you all the best.

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Marc Preston: I'm looking forward to seeing your name

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Marc Preston: showing up in more and more credits, and

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Marc Preston: most certainly You're so great to meet you.

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Marc Preston: Well, it's certainly a pleasure.

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Marc Preston: Now, please, next time you're sent your

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Marc Preston: food person, next time you're on Fairfax

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Marc Preston: you got a canter.

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Marc Preston: Please get some of the matzah ball soup for

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Marc Preston: me.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I will absolutely.

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Marc Preston: All right, asha Michelle Wilson, enjoy this

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Marc Preston: chat.

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Marc Preston: Very cool.

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Marc Preston: We kind of, you know, pulled the curtain

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Marc Preston: back, learned a little bit more about TV,

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Marc Preston: how it's made, writing for TV, glad to have

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Marc Preston: All right, that's it for this episode.

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Marc Preston: Looking forward to the next one and look

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