Dane Cook | Breathe & Believe

Don Pardo with that amazing, unique voice,

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Dane Cook: and hearing him say, ladies and gentlemen,

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Dane Cook: Dane Cook, it was like the goosebumps

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Dane Cook: almost came right off my skin.

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.

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Marc Preston: Hey, hey, welcome back Another episode of

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Marc Preston: Story and Craft.

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Marc Preston: I am Marc Preston.

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Marc Preston: Thank you so much for being here today.

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Marc Preston: Comedian actor Dane Cook.

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Marc Preston: Well, as a member of Gen X, let me say

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Marc Preston: legendary comedian Dane Cook.

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Marc Preston: I mean he reached rock star status when it

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Marc Preston: came to being a comedian.

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Marc Preston: I mean he is one of my favorite comedians,

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Marc Preston: really cool guy.

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Marc Preston: You're going to enjoy the chat.

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Marc Preston: We cover his career in comedy, his time on

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Marc Preston: film.

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Marc Preston: He's been in movies kind of like Waiting,

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Marc Preston: which I think is the quintessential movie

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Marc Preston: for any of us who have ever worked in a

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Marc Preston: restaurant.

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Marc Preston: It's spot on.

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Marc Preston: Also, dan in Real Life Good luck, chuck,

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Marc Preston: employee of the Month, my best friend's

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Marc Preston: girl.

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Marc Preston: He's been in a lot of cool films.

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Marc Preston: Now also he has a brand new comedy special

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Marc Preston: called Above It All.

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Marc Preston: Got to check it out.

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Marc Preston: Good stuff.

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Marc Preston: I was checking it out a little bit before

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Marc Preston: and it's funny, but of course it's going to

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Marc Preston: be funny.

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Marc Preston: It's Dane Cook We talk about his first time

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Marc Preston: on Saturday Night Live.

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Marc Preston: He lived in John Belushi's old apartment.

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Marc Preston: That's random.

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Marc Preston: Kind of a cool thing to learn about, Dane.

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Marc Preston: Also, he worked with Betty White and he

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Marc Preston: shares a secret Betty White shared with him,

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Marc Preston: which that alone makes this super cool for

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Marc Preston: me.

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Marc Preston: So I mean, who doesn't love Betty White?

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Marc Preston: And, as always, if you want to know

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Marc Preston: anything about the show, just head to

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Marc Preston: storyandcraftpod.com, and that's where you

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Marc Preston: find out everything about the show, past

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Marc Preston: guests, pretty much anything.

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Marc Preston: It's all there, so check it out.

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Marc Preston: Also, if you would.

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Marc Preston: I always ask this as a humble request No

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Marc Preston: matter what podcast platform or app you are

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Marc Preston: And also, if you would leave a review, give

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Marc Preston: some stars Five or ten or hundred, i don't

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Marc Preston: know However many you can give just throw

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Marc Preston: some love, why not?

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Marc Preston: Okay, let's get after it.

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Marc Preston: Today it's Dane Cook Day on Story and Craft.

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Marc Preston: Alright, mr Cook.

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Dane Cook: Yo, what's up, man.

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Marc Preston: Hey, thanks on a Friday for connecting with

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Marc Preston: me.

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Marc Preston: I most certainly appreciate it, man.

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Marc Preston: This is a cool opportunity, so I certainly

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Marc Preston: appreciate it.

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Dane Cook: This is a privilege and a pleasure because

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Dane Cook: I love talking shop, so you got me at a

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Dane Cook: very celebratory time, man.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's kind of funny.

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Marc Preston: I told a friend of mine, my good friend

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Marc Preston: Sarah, i've known for years.

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Marc Preston: Yes, and listen, i got an interview I got

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Marc Preston: to do here in a section Like who is it

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Marc Preston: today?

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Marc Preston: I said Dane Cook.

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Marc Preston: She's like, oh my God, tell him I think

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Marc Preston: he's sexy.

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Marc Preston: So my friend Sarah says, yes, i didn't know

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Marc Preston: this about her.

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Marc Preston: She's like I can almost hear the purring of

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Marc Preston: the text message you know.

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Marc Preston: So it was.

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Dane Cook: You tell her, i tell your maid, she made my

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Dane Cook: day, thank you.

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Marc Preston: Very good, very good.

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Marc Preston: So you're in LA now, right?

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Dane Cook: That is correct.

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Dane Cook: I'm in my office here in my home, where I

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Dane Cook: also shopped this special.

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Dane Cook: But we'll probably talk about.

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Marc Preston: I like how your AHS you're giving a shout

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Marc Preston: out to your high school and your name on

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Marc Preston: the screen.

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Marc Preston: I like that.

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Marc Preston: That's good.

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Dane Cook: I try to keep it interesting, even the

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Dane Cook: minute details.

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Dane Cook: There's always room for some comedy, I

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Dane Cook: think.

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Marc Preston: Indeed, absolutely, it's the little things

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Marc Preston: in life.

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Marc Preston: It's so funny.

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Marc Preston: I was just thinking about it the other day

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Marc Preston: and I The things I've seen in the

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Marc Preston: interviews, have heard I've never heard

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Marc Preston: anybody say that, something which I think

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Marc Preston: is really unique about you, that I think,

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Marc Preston: as far as you were kind of the first

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Marc Preston: comedic voice in my mind for like Gen X

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Marc Preston: Kind of like, in that I'm trying to think

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Marc Preston: it was the.

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Marc Preston: You did it in the round.

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Marc Preston: Was it Madison Square Garden?

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Dane Cook: Was that the arena show you did Yeah the

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Dane Cook: first one that I did was Boston Garden for

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Dane Cook: Vicious.

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Marc Preston: Circle, That's right, Boston Garden.

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Marc Preston: And I remember you talking about laying in

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Marc Preston: bed and just like how uncomfortable it was

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Marc Preston: or something, laying next to somebody who's

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Marc Preston: sleeping.

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Marc Preston: I was like you capture the awkwardness of

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Marc Preston: being Gen X in your 20s better than anybody

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Marc Preston: ever did.

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Marc Preston: But no, I know a lot of people came out of

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Marc Preston: that generation but you kind of like I was

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Marc Preston: thinking I was like man.

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Marc Preston: He really nailed the awkwardness And this

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Marc Preston: is a compliment.

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Marc Preston: It sure as shit's not sounding like it, But

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Marc Preston: seriously, you really You kind of captured

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Marc Preston: the experience of what's like to be in your

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Marc Preston: 20s back in the 90s.

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Dane Cook: It felt like in that era there was some

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Dane Cook: prime real estate in terms of communicating

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Dane Cook: to a modern group of humans what comedy can

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Dane Cook: and should be for our generation.

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Dane Cook: So I do feel like I was, i guess, the bell

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Dane Cook: curve there for Zeitgeist.

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Dane Cook: I was like, okay, i'm going to start

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Dane Cook: talking to the next group of college kids

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Dane Cook: coming up the ranks and hopefully entertain

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Dane Cook: them and maybe that'll provide me more of a

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Dane Cook: long form career as well as some long form

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Dane Cook: stories that we're talking about.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, i dug it, man.

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Marc Preston: That's something I wanted to tell you that

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Marc Preston: I just As I watched you in that era, i

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Marc Preston: thought, god, this guy.

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Marc Preston: Because I came, i'm a George Carlin guy and

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Marc Preston: I came out of The first guy that I can

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Marc Preston: Just, i mean, i know there are other people

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Marc Preston: who did it, but Eddie Murphy, raw, and here

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Marc Preston: you are in an arena, kind of setting.

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Marc Preston: I was like, okay, this guy is kind of

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Marc Preston: capturing that lightning in a bottle, that

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Marc Preston: rarified air.

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Dane Cook: You know, carlin had a special in 1978

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Dane Cook: called On Location.

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Dane Cook: that was actually directed by Marty

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Dane Cook: Culliner, who not only directed Vicious

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Dane Cook: Circle but then directed above it all with

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Dane Cook: me for the most recent release and growing

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Dane Cook: up as a student of comedy and loving George

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Dane Cook: Carlin and also appreciating aesthetically

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Dane Cook: what he brought to stand up by performing

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Dane Cook: in the round It was certainly one of the

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Dane Cook: comedy architects that I looked to Carlin

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Dane Cook: and said, man, if I could figure out a way

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Dane Cook: to build a reputation in the comedy world

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Dane Cook: and with my fans that I'm growing up with

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Dane Cook: you, i'm not just going to be derivative in

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Dane Cook: rinse and repeat, if you'll allow me I'm

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Dane Cook: going to fail and succeed right before your

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Dane Cook: eyes that I knew that I might be able to.

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Dane Cook: you know, one day look at my family and say

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Dane Cook: I'm glad you supported me on this because

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Dane Cook: we done good.

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Marc Preston: You have four or five sisters.

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Dane Cook: I have one full sister and then the rest of

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Dane Cook: the family is all.

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Dane Cook: It's a little Brady Bunch.

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Marc Preston: Oh, i got you.

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Marc Preston: I got you As far as like origin story.

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Marc Preston: Now I know you're a I'm a North Dallas kid,

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Marc Preston: so you know East Coast and a little fuzzy,

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Marc Preston: but it is basically Boston was where you

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Marc Preston: grew up Suburban Boston area.

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Dane Cook: Ten minutes north of Boston.

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Dane Cook: Yes, arlington Massachusetts.

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Marc Preston: Oh God shit, I'm drawn a blank.

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Marc Preston: I beat comedian Boston redheaded guy.

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Marc Preston: Why is he drawn?

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Marc Preston: I mean, whatever my, I'm sorry, Bill Burr.

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Marc Preston: Bill Burr, Yeah, I'm at that age now where

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Marc Preston: my brain tries to access a name and it just

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Marc Preston: goes like that.

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Dane Cook: Yeah, bill Burr was in my graduating class.

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Dane Cook: We both started while I started in 90.

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Dane Cook: And I think he came in right around 91, but

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Dane Cook: myself, bill Burr, a comedian who sadly

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Dane Cook: passed away, the great Patrice O'Neill,

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Dane Cook: gary Goldman and several other cohorts, but

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Dane Cook: that was our motley crew coming up out of

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Dane Cook: that.

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Dane Cook: that region, in a time when standup was

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Dane Cook: really at the tail end of its Boom, the 80s

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Dane Cook: comedy boom, was ending when we were

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Dane Cook: starting.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, every there were comedy clubs like

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Marc Preston: everywhere and they always they I know they

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Marc Preston: all serve the same food, the same

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Marc Preston: Atmosphere, same kind of vibe, and then

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Marc Preston: they just started kind of petering out.

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Marc Preston: But yeah, doing that a little bit of origin

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Marc Preston: story is Boston and You had, you had family,

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Marc Preston: you know siblings of stuff, but you had one

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Marc Preston: full sister.

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Marc Preston: Was it an older, younger sister?

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Dane Cook: Yeah, my younger sister, courtney, who's a

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Dane Cook: very talented photographer in our own right,

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Dane Cook: and it was really.

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Dane Cook: It's funny because Courtney and I Were the

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Dane Cook: most like our, are the most like our

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Dane Cook: parents, which was the perfect blend.

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Dane Cook: As a comedian of my dad had Swagger my dad

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Dane Cook: had, he was very, he was pretty intense.

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Dane Cook: He was old school, he was a little, he was

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Dane Cook: a little.

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Dane Cook: There's some dark corners there that were

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Dane Cook: that always kept him interesting In a bit

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Dane Cook: of a ham.

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Dane Cook: But on the other side our mom was very

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Dane Cook: physical, very silly, loved language, loved

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Dane Cook: painting verbal pictures physically, and I

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Dane Cook: So the out of the jump.

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Marc Preston: I'm in that kind of phase.

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Dane Cook: I'll tell you why because my dad, who was

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Dane Cook: very difficult time in her illness was One

483

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Dane Cook: that I will never not see for the rest of

484

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Dane Cook: my life one of the things I always admired

485

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Dane Cook: about you is that it kind of That tails

486

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Dane Cook: into a question.

487

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Marc Preston: But it's like, you know, if I knew my

488

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Marc Preston: parents were sitting out in in the audience

489

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Marc Preston: and be like I almost want to feel the need

490

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Marc Preston: to kind of meet her.

491

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Marc Preston: What I was talking about, i mean you,

492

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Marc Preston: there's nothing you're holding back.

493

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Marc Preston: I mean, was it the content?

494

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Marc Preston: and it was nothing Bad at all.

495

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Marc Preston: But it's not normal Dinner time

496

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Marc Preston: conversation with your parents.

497

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Marc Preston: You know, how did she receive the content?

498

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Marc Preston: I mean, did she ever give you commentary

499

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Marc Preston: like, were they, were they seeing that,

500

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Marc Preston: seeing you in a new way, And were they

501

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Marc Preston: enjoying that like a different side of you?

502

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Dane Cook: Yeah, they loved irreverence.

503

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Dane Cook: They were reverent people themselves,

504

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Dane Cook: especially my mom.

505

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Dane Cook: She could have a, you know it could turn

506

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Dane Cook: into a bit of a pirate's den in the house

507

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Dane Cook: from time to time.

508

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Dane Cook: So we were.

509

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Dane Cook: We were cavalier with the language, but we

510

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Dane Cook: were also lovers of language, so it could

511

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Dane Cook: be an F bomb coupled with, you know, a 15

512

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Dane Cook: point Scrabble word.

513

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Dane Cook: So the content was never an issue.

514

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Dane Cook: My mom was always just very adamant about

515

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Dane Cook: let people know that there's not a modicum

516

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Dane Cook: of Malice in you and you can get away with

517

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Dane Cook: anything, and I don't.

518

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Dane Cook: I'm a person who lives in a positive state

519

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Dane Cook: of mind whenever Possible, and because I

520

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Dane Cook: never take anything negative to the stage,

521

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Dane Cook: i knew I could probably get away with.

522

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Dane Cook: Some topics that were, you know, pretty

523

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Dane Cook: low-brow Sometimes are out there because

524

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Dane Cook: people knew that I wasn't trying to be

525

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Dane Cook: vulgar for the sake of shock value.

526

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Marc Preston: Who is this kind of your disposition as a

527

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Marc Preston: kid, like in school?

528

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Marc Preston: or are you more reserved, you more Gagari

529

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Marc Preston: is what?

530

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Marc Preston: the more you know going back to high school

531

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Marc Preston: or things like junior, junior high, because

532

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Marc Preston: that's usually when the Stuff starts

533

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Marc Preston: happening.

534

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Dane Cook: Yeah, no, junior high for me was a

535

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Dane Cook: introvert, very wallflower very much, so

536

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Dane Cook: more of more of an observer Didn't really

537

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Dane Cook: participate very much, just because of

538

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Dane Cook: social anxiety.

539

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Dane Cook: But I do believe that all those elements

540

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Dane Cook: actually led to me being a more nuanced

541

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Dane Cook: Storyteller because I could see little

542

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Dane Cook: things in human behavior, probably because

543

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Dane Cook: I was only listening you know, my, my

544

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Dane Cook: Daughter, my 17 year old, has always been

545

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Dane Cook: the same way.

546

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Marc Preston: She can.

547

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Marc Preston: She can walk into a room And I used to do a

548

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Marc Preston: PA announcing for a baseball team, just for

549

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Marc Preston: fun, because kids love baseball And I

550

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Marc Preston: thought be fun to do for a summer or two.

551

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Marc Preston: And she could walk into the press box and

552

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Marc Preston: bunch of other people, she could read the

553

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Marc Preston: room, she people would look at her and say,

554

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Marc Preston: gosh, she's so shy.

555

00:19:06,159 --> 00:19:07,863

Marc Preston: It's like no, no, she's studying you right

556

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Marc Preston: now.

557

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Marc Preston: So I totally get that now.

558

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Marc Preston: Now, but when did you feel like Cliche

559

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Marc Preston: phrase came out of your shell?

560

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Marc Preston: when?

561

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Marc Preston: when did you feel that Kind of like when

562

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Marc Preston: you got your feet underneath you and you,

563

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Marc Preston: you were making some choices that you were

564

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Marc Preston: sticking to.

565

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Dane Cook: Yeah it.

566

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Dane Cook: It took a while.

567

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Dane Cook: It certainly even though the first time I

568

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Dane Cook: performed I felt Exhilarated and I felt

569

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Dane Cook: some purpose almost immediately.

570

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Dane Cook: I knew that it I was in the right place,

571

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Dane Cook: right time.

572

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Dane Cook: But it took me probably about three or four

573

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Dane Cook: years Before I could confidently look

574

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Dane Cook: somebody in the eyes and say I'm a

575

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Dane Cook: performer, i'm a comedian.

576

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Dane Cook: I didn't.

577

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Dane Cook: I was, i wasn't ashamed of it, but I didn't

578

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Dane Cook: know how to Present myself.

579

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Dane Cook: I think I was bashful still and I was

580

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Dane Cook: certainly just afraid of my own voice for a

581

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Dane Cook: long time.

582

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Dane Cook: You know, unless I had the mic in my hand,

583

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Dane Cook: i didn't.

584

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Dane Cook: I felt more like the Clark Kent, but on

585

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Dane Cook: stage I had a bit of a Superman moment and

586

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Dane Cook: it took me probably about four or five

587

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Dane Cook: years before I realized, in an aha moment,

588

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Dane Cook: i Am the person I become on stage.

589

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Dane Cook: I am that guy.

590

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Dane Cook: I just need to allow myself to love myself

591

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Dane Cook: a little more and be confident and let go

592

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Dane Cook: with some of the fear.

593

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Marc Preston: And that we're the way that happens,

594

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Marc Preston: because you think you're going and putting

595

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Marc Preston: on a show, but really what you're doing is

596

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Marc Preston: you're stripping things away more than

597

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Marc Preston: anything.

598

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Dane Cook: Yeah, yeah, it's funny.

599

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Dane Cook: My whole philosophy is life is, you know,

600

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Dane Cook: removing the obstacles and the hurdles that

601

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Dane Cook: you probably already have set in front of

602

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Dane Cook: you.

603

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Dane Cook: You know, those things sometimes aren't

604

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Dane Cook: things that appear, it's actually obstacles

605

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Dane Cook: We run towards and and maybe the sole

606

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Dane Cook: purpose isn't be what's beyond it, but for

607

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Dane Cook: you to work on removing that element so

608

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Dane Cook: that you can enjoy everything beyond it.

609

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Marc Preston: No, when did you start touring?

610

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Marc Preston: How old were you?

611

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Marc Preston: Oh?

612

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Dane Cook: Boy touring.

613

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Dane Cook: Well, i started touring around New England,

614

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Dane Cook: you know, tooling around in my little Chevy

615

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Dane Cook: Cavalier in 90, 91, 92, and then I wasn't.

616

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Marc Preston: wasn't Marc Marin kind of bouncing around

617

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Marc Preston: up there as well right about that same time?

618

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Marc Preston: I know he went school up there, yeah.

619

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Dane Cook: Yeah, marin was the graduating class ahead

620

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Dane Cook: of us So he didn't pal around with us

621

00:21:12,535 --> 00:21:13,057

Dane Cook: because we were.

622

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Dane Cook: You know we were the noobs, but he was

623

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Dane Cook: already kind of staking his claim, i think,

624

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Dane Cook: outside of Boston in New York.

625

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Dane Cook: But I was just roaming around New England

626

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Dane Cook: looking for college gigs, looking for Heaps

627

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Dane Cook: of places or Chinese food restaurants that

628

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Dane Cook: we're offering open mics for me to.

629

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Dane Cook: You know, get better.

630

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Marc Preston: When it comes to the lifestyle of touring,

631

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Marc Preston: i've always been kind of like that seems

632

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Marc Preston: like it's really cool, but then I like I

633

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Marc Preston: don't know if I could live that lifestyle.

634

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Marc Preston: What was that like when you're actually out

635

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Marc Preston: on the road and it's?

636

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Marc Preston: you know?

637

00:21:49,487 --> 00:21:51,414

Marc Preston: I hear that the, the owners of some of the

638

00:21:51,454 --> 00:21:53,539

Marc Preston: clubs can be their own, like peculiar

639

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Marc Preston: ecosystem.

640

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Marc Preston: And what was that like early on for you

641

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Marc Preston: when you were kind of getting some momentum?

642

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Dane Cook: Yeah, it was lonely, it was hard because

643

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Dane Cook: there was a lot of yeah, there was a lot of

644

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Dane Cook: people and kind of in power that would not

645

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Dane Cook: always pay you or, you know, would try to

646

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Dane Cook: kind of take advantage of your time or

647

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Dane Cook: efforts.

648

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Dane Cook: So you're kind of learning in a very small

649

00:22:13,761 --> 00:22:16,049

Dane Cook: pond, like what the business itself is,

650

00:22:16,109 --> 00:22:18,100

Dane Cook: which is, you know, you got to, you got a

651

00:22:18,140 --> 00:22:19,709

Dane Cook: load of the legalese and you got to be able

652

00:22:19,729 --> 00:22:21,255

Dane Cook: to know how to you know protect yourself in

653

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Dane Cook: those moments.

654

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Dane Cook: But I think that before the internet

655

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Dane Cook: because I'm the old bull I can talk about

656

00:22:28,409 --> 00:22:30,797

Dane Cook: that, you know, transfer moment it was very

657

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Dane Cook: lonely.

658

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Dane Cook: And then, once the computer came in and

659

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Dane Cook: there was a bit more of a closeness to even

660

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Dane Cook: the people that were back home, that

661

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Dane Cook: alleviated a lot of that stress.

662

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Dane Cook: But the first five to seven years was

663

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Dane Cook: really really lonely, really hard out there.

664

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Marc Preston: I don't know.

665

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Marc Preston: Like I said, it seems like it would be cool

666

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Marc Preston: to be in different cities, meet different

667

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Marc Preston: people, but it's I don't know, it could be

668

00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:52,792

Marc Preston: rough also, but it's funny.

669

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Marc Preston: you mentioned the internet.

670

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Marc Preston: I'm sitting there, going like I.

671

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Marc Preston: you know I'll prepare sometimes for for

672

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Marc Preston: folks like Dan Cook.

673

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Marc Preston: I know Dan Cook, but I saw something that

674

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Marc Preston: you're one of the first people to really

675

00:23:02,937 --> 00:23:05,973

Marc Preston: embrace MySpace, if we're going OG, as a

676

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Marc Preston: means of kind of, you know, forging direct

677

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Marc Preston: connections for folks.

678

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Marc Preston: Was that just some?

679

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Marc Preston: were you just immediately when you saw

680

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Marc Preston: MySpace and internet like I'm going to

681

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Marc Preston: embrace this?

682

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Marc Preston: or did somebody give you some advice and

683

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Marc Preston: say, dude, you need to jump on this?

684

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Dane Cook: Yeah, it was like I now I like to call

685

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Dane Cook: MySpace TikTok 1.0.

686

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Dane Cook: Myspace was the very first place where, you

687

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Dane Cook: know, ideas were culminated.

688

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Dane Cook: But I looked at as a immediately as hey,

689

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Dane Cook: people are congregating here.

690

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Dane Cook: This is like comedy in the park.

691

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Dane Cook: This is like when I used to walk through

692

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Dane Cook: Fanguil Hall in Boston and somebody could

693

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Dane Cook: be performing there their actor, you know

694

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Dane Cook: magic or comedy or music and gathering a

695

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Dane Cook: little crowd on the street.

696

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Dane Cook: And I looked at the internet as man, that

697

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Dane Cook: is one big crowd on the street that you

698

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Dane Cook: have the opportunity to to, you know, pal

699

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Dane Cook: around with and hopefully build up your

700

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Dane Cook: clientele.

701

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Dane Cook: You know your fans, your business, and I

702

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Dane Cook: would say within the first month and I mean

703

00:24:02,997 --> 00:24:05,511

Dane Cook: this, this is going to sound flowery and a

704

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Dane Cook: little bit like a bad movie scene I was

705

00:24:09,071 --> 00:24:12,941

Dane Cook: languishing in LA on my computer finding

706

00:24:12,981 --> 00:24:15,654

Dane Cook: MySpace And within a month I went from that

707

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Dane Cook: that guy who was doing this a lot Hmm, How

708

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Dane Cook: do I make my career to a month later saying

709

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Dane Cook: I'm about to take over the world with this.

710

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Marc Preston: Really.

711

00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:28,513

Dane Cook: Oh, a month, A month later after I started,

712

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Dane Cook: i had my first 2,500 followers from zero,

713

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Dane Cook: from sharing links of my comedy.

714

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Dane Cook: And when I hit that 2,500 and then I hit

715

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Dane Cook: 5,000 within six weeks I sat at that

716

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Dane Cook: computer and I said I'm going to sit here

717

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Dane Cook: 23 hours a day until that number is 5

718

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Dane Cook: million people.

719

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Dane Cook: And we got there within about two years I

720

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Dane Cook: had 5 million people and I didn't have to

721

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Dane Cook: wait for Hollywood or industry or anybody

722

00:24:53,980 --> 00:24:54,300

Dane Cook: anymore.

723

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Dane Cook: I could do it myself.

724

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Marc Preston: And one of the things that is so

725

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Marc Preston: fascinating to me.

726

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Marc Preston: there is a young lady.

727

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Marc Preston: I say young lady, she's 23.

728

00:25:01,770 --> 00:25:04,652

Marc Preston: She's one of the superhero people And I

729

00:25:05,013 --> 00:25:07,378

Marc Preston: look just kind of generally looking around,

730

00:25:07,418 --> 00:25:09,923

Marc Preston: i'm like, oh, instagram, 1.5 million.

731

00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:12,838

Marc Preston: I'm like, gee, many Christmas, are you

732

00:25:12,859 --> 00:25:13,220

Marc Preston: kidding me?

733

00:25:13,690 --> 00:25:14,573

Marc Preston: I was like, how is that even?

734

00:25:15,196 --> 00:25:16,340

Marc Preston: what would I do with that?

735

00:25:16,842 --> 00:25:19,792

Marc Preston: you know, that is I was already working

736

00:25:19,812 --> 00:25:21,736

Marc Preston: successful in radio in Dallas, you know.

737

00:25:22,218 --> 00:25:23,621

Marc Preston: but I'm making 1.5 million.

738

00:25:24,190 --> 00:25:26,272

Marc Preston: That's a pretty big thing And that, those

739

00:25:26,312 --> 00:25:29,780

Marc Preston: kind of numbers back circa my space days,

740

00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:31,992

Marc Preston: that's a big, that's even bigger of a deal,

741

00:25:32,092 --> 00:25:34,338

Marc Preston: because people really hadn't embraced it

742

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Marc Preston: quite the same way.

743

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Dane Cook: You would think of it almost like I

744

00:25:37,775 --> 00:25:39,901

Dane Cook: describe it when I, when I mentor young

745

00:25:40,081 --> 00:25:43,117

Dane Cook: people that are building their you know,

746

00:25:43,157 --> 00:25:44,340

Dane Cook: building their online presence.

747

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Dane Cook: Even today, i tell them think of it like

748

00:25:46,335 --> 00:25:48,994

Dane Cook: this If you had a brick and mortar and

749

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Dane Cook: suddenly on day, one ribbon cut, a thousand

750

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Dane Cook: people walked into your widget shop, you

751

00:25:55,901 --> 00:25:58,669

Dane Cook: would say I need to do anything and

752

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Dane Cook: everything possible to make sure the

753

00:26:00,513 --> 00:26:03,728

Dane Cook: experience for these thousand people that

754

00:26:03,768 --> 00:26:05,972

Dane Cook: they go and tell one or two or three other

755

00:26:06,032 --> 00:26:08,698

Dane Cook: people this is the shop you want to come to.

756

00:26:09,245 --> 00:26:11,031

Dane Cook: I looked at it and I still, to this day,

757

00:26:11,432 --> 00:26:12,194

Dane Cook: look at it like this.

758

00:26:12,485 --> 00:26:15,272

Dane Cook: If you have 20, 50 people that come in, are

759

00:26:15,353 --> 00:26:17,366

Dane Cook: interested in what you do, if you can get

760

00:26:17,607 --> 00:26:19,834

Dane Cook: 50 people onto your page, guess what?

761

00:26:20,365 --> 00:26:22,653

Dane Cook: You can get 50,000 people.

762

00:26:22,965 --> 00:26:26,208

Dane Cook: You can get 5 million people, it's all the

763

00:26:26,268 --> 00:26:26,670

Dane Cook: same.

764

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Dane Cook: It's really the response to what it is that

765

00:26:29,551 --> 00:26:31,216

Dane Cook: you're putting the effort, the heart and

766

00:26:31,256 --> 00:26:33,552

Dane Cook: soul you put into your digital brick and

767

00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:33,893

Dane Cook: mortar.

768

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Marc Preston: That's so funny to say mentor.

769

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Marc Preston: It's kind of being at that age.

770

00:26:37,525 --> 00:26:39,572

Marc Preston: I think you literally are only a few months

771

00:26:39,692 --> 00:26:40,415

Marc Preston: older than I am.

772

00:26:40,485 --> 00:26:42,874

Marc Preston: I think I was born February 73.

773

00:26:42,945 --> 00:26:44,271

Marc Preston: I think you're just a few months older.

774

00:26:45,166 --> 00:26:47,774

Marc Preston: I'm at that phase where the mentoring thing

775

00:26:48,918 --> 00:26:51,345

Marc Preston: it's cool because I look back at the people

776

00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:52,410

Marc Preston: that I looked at.

777

00:26:52,450 --> 00:26:54,620

Marc Preston: these old radio dudes who were rocking in

778

00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,327

Marc Preston: the 60s and 70s had the good stories to

779

00:26:56,367 --> 00:26:58,888

Marc Preston: tell When it came to mentoring.

780

00:26:59,149 --> 00:27:03,922

Marc Preston: Who were you looking at, either just from

781

00:27:03,982 --> 00:27:06,108

Marc Preston: afar or people directly that were saying,

782

00:27:06,168 --> 00:27:08,435

Marc Preston: okay, Dane, let's check it.

783

00:27:08,565 --> 00:27:09,629

Marc Preston: Here's what we need to be thinking about.

784

00:27:10,845 --> 00:27:11,807

Marc Preston: Who are some of those people?

785

00:27:12,228 --> 00:27:14,815

Marc Preston: comedy, even outside of comedy, early on.

786

00:27:16,006 --> 00:27:16,608

Dane Cook: Well, i had.

787

00:27:16,669 --> 00:27:19,097

Dane Cook: My first and probably most influential

788

00:27:19,358 --> 00:27:21,405

Dane Cook: person in my life was my high school drama

789

00:27:21,525 --> 00:27:22,489

Dane Cook: teacher, frank Roberts.

790

00:27:23,565 --> 00:27:25,515

Dane Cook: Frank was the first person outside of my

791

00:27:25,575 --> 00:27:27,444

Dane Cook: home to look at me and say something that I

792

00:27:27,505 --> 00:27:29,612

Dane Cook: never thought I'd hear, which is you have

793

00:27:29,692 --> 00:27:30,073

Dane Cook: talent.

794

00:27:31,227 --> 00:27:32,452

Dane Cook: I didn't even know what to do with that.

795

00:27:33,267 --> 00:27:35,693

Dane Cook: I was thrilled and terrified.

796

00:27:36,175 --> 00:27:36,796

Dane Cook: I said I do.

797

00:27:37,085 --> 00:27:39,271

Dane Cook: He said I've been teaching class here for

798

00:27:39,352 --> 00:27:40,254

Dane Cook: 20-some odd years.

799

00:27:40,925 --> 00:27:42,509

Dane Cook: I tell you, when you took that stage today

800

00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:44,895

Dane Cook: and did A, b and C, he said you have

801

00:27:44,975 --> 00:27:45,897

Dane Cook: natural ability.

802

00:27:46,325 --> 00:27:47,409

Dane Cook: Then he said something which I really

803

00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:47,911

Dane Cook: needed to hear.

804

00:27:48,245 --> 00:27:49,852

Dane Cook: He said but you have a lot of fear in you.

805

00:27:50,506 --> 00:27:52,594

Dane Cook: I'd like to help you to understand your

806

00:27:52,635 --> 00:27:55,084

Dane Cook: fear, but I really want to help you to get

807

00:27:55,144 --> 00:27:57,531

Dane Cook: on that stage and to be able to expand upon

808

00:27:57,571 --> 00:27:59,836

Dane Cook: what I'm seeing when you stand up there.

809

00:28:00,586 --> 00:28:02,629

Dane Cook: I could not have asked for a better angel

810

00:28:03,211 --> 00:28:06,777

Dane Cook: to come down and help me on my way.

811

00:28:06,837 --> 00:28:07,839

Dane Cook: In terms of the arts.

812

00:28:08,165 --> 00:28:09,448

Dane Cook: My family could be supportive, but they

813

00:28:09,469 --> 00:28:11,815

Dane Cook: didn't understand the business side of

814

00:28:11,855 --> 00:28:12,176

Dane Cook: things.

815

00:28:12,605 --> 00:28:14,349

Dane Cook: I mean, frank really instilled a lot of

816

00:28:14,409 --> 00:28:16,414

Dane Cook: values in me that I use to this day.

817

00:28:17,885 --> 00:28:19,369

Marc Preston: That is something when somebody that you

818

00:28:19,409 --> 00:28:21,154

Marc Preston: respect, that you think actually is in the

819

00:28:21,194 --> 00:28:23,205

Marc Preston: game, or they just know something, when

820

00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:26,395

Marc Preston: they recognize and say you can do this, or

821

00:28:26,558 --> 00:28:27,265

Marc Preston: just kind of.

822

00:28:27,428 --> 00:28:29,964

Marc Preston: I know my grandfather, always with a wink

823

00:28:29,984 --> 00:28:31,147

Marc Preston: in his eye, would say you're the most

824

00:28:31,248 --> 00:28:33,686

Marc Preston: hardheaded person I've ever met, because he

825

00:28:33,706 --> 00:28:35,373

Marc Preston: knew fundamentally you got to be hardheaded,

826

00:28:35,445 --> 00:28:37,612

Marc Preston: you got to be just have that torque and

827

00:28:37,652 --> 00:28:38,415

Marc Preston: push through things.

828

00:28:38,585 --> 00:28:40,008

Marc Preston: He knew that's what it was going to take

829

00:28:40,029 --> 00:28:41,512

Marc Preston: for me to achieve whatever I did.

830

00:28:41,592 --> 00:28:43,718

Marc Preston: I think I I'm sorry, go ahead.

831

00:28:44,026 --> 00:28:45,249

Dane Cook: No, i was going to say, i think what I took

832

00:28:45,289 --> 00:28:47,234

Dane Cook: from Frank and probably a little bit of my

833

00:28:48,165 --> 00:28:52,437

Dane Cook: dad and mom and put all these assembled,

834

00:28:52,497 --> 00:28:54,583

Dane Cook: all these traits, what you would call a

835

00:28:54,784 --> 00:28:57,269

Dane Cook: person's character, and I think what I

836

00:28:57,410 --> 00:28:59,459

Dane Cook: realized and what I continue to try to grow

837

00:28:59,660 --> 00:29:01,366

Dane Cook: on and what I really like to share with

838

00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:04,032

Dane Cook: young people that I talk to, is it was the

839

00:29:04,072 --> 00:29:10,186

Dane Cook: ability to be no bullshit, tough as nails,

840

00:29:10,246 --> 00:29:12,852

Dane Cook: assertive, with as much tenderness and

841

00:29:12,912 --> 00:29:15,417

Dane Cook: heart as you could ever expect or want from

842

00:29:15,477 --> 00:29:15,798

Dane Cook: somebody.

843

00:29:16,225 --> 00:29:19,191

Dane Cook: And if you can find that ability to be that

844

00:29:19,512 --> 00:29:21,977

Dane Cook: honest and give people your power in some

845

00:29:22,057 --> 00:29:23,952

Dane Cook: sense, because you know you're tough enough

846

00:29:23,992 --> 00:29:26,284

Dane Cook: to take it back or stand up for it, i think

847

00:29:26,324 --> 00:29:28,390

Dane Cook: that's a nice way to be able to pivot and

848

00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:30,876

Dane Cook: move with the world that's ever changing

849

00:29:30,936 --> 00:29:31,317

Dane Cook: around you.

850

00:29:31,405 --> 00:29:33,490

Dane Cook: You got to be tough, but you got to have a

851

00:29:33,531 --> 00:29:35,496

Dane Cook: lot of love in you and a lot of heart.

852

00:29:38,011 --> 00:29:39,114

Marc Preston: I could not agree more.

853

00:29:39,745 --> 00:29:40,628

Marc Preston: I saw there's this quote.

854

00:29:40,729 --> 00:29:43,248

Marc Preston: I like I'm mangling it, but it says you

855

00:29:43,368 --> 00:29:45,995

Marc Preston: know, basically make decisions from love,

856

00:29:46,115 --> 00:29:46,556

Marc Preston: not fear.

857

00:29:47,325 --> 00:29:48,550

Marc Preston: One of the things that's funny when Emma

858

00:29:48,631 --> 00:29:51,785

Marc Preston: I'm sorry, my daughter, my 17, almost 17

859

00:29:51,805 --> 00:29:53,646

Marc Preston: year old was in her appointment, i'm

860

00:29:53,666 --> 00:29:55,291

Marc Preston: sitting there just where's Dane showing up,

861

00:29:56,045 --> 00:29:59,931

Marc Preston: like in a podcast, and how cool it was that

862

00:30:00,011 --> 00:30:02,417

Marc Preston: you were Bob Saget's last interview on his

863

00:30:02,457 --> 00:30:07,119

Marc Preston: podcast And I'm like that was such a great

864

00:30:07,159 --> 00:30:08,644

Marc Preston: thing to hear because nobody said anything

865

00:30:08,665 --> 00:30:09,945

Marc Preston: ever bad about Bob Saget.

866

00:30:10,166 --> 00:30:11,933

Marc Preston: You know, i mean to have that reputation.

867

00:30:13,398 --> 00:30:14,683

Marc Preston: Just touching on that for a moment.

868

00:30:14,764 --> 00:30:17,588

Marc Preston: I spoke right after he passed away Another

869

00:30:17,608 --> 00:30:19,435

Marc Preston: comedian, craig Shoemaker.

870

00:30:19,455 --> 00:30:21,804

Marc Preston: I spoke with him and because it was right

871

00:30:21,844 --> 00:30:23,626

Marc Preston: after he had passed away, what was your

872

00:30:23,766 --> 00:30:26,272

Marc Preston: feeling sitting down talking with him and

873

00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:28,177

Marc Preston: just your opinion of Bob Saget, just in

874

00:30:28,237 --> 00:30:28,598

Marc Preston: general.

875

00:30:29,286 --> 00:30:31,449

Dane Cook: Well, the conversation working back from

876

00:30:31,469 --> 00:30:37,058

Dane Cook: there was spirited and unbridled and very

877

00:30:37,138 --> 00:30:41,673

Dane Cook: loving And he shared stories with his

878

00:30:41,893 --> 00:30:45,141

Dane Cook: viewers and myself that I thought were so I

879

00:30:45,201 --> 00:30:45,422

Dane Cook: would.

880

00:30:45,622 --> 00:30:47,813

Dane Cook: I would even say poetic, beautiful

881

00:30:48,294 --> 00:30:50,884

Dane Cook: sentiment about Robin Williams, stories

882

00:30:50,904 --> 00:30:53,247

Dane Cook: that he never shared before And it really

883

00:30:53,507 --> 00:30:54,952

Dane Cook: touched my heart that he was, you know,

884

00:30:54,972 --> 00:30:55,554

Dane Cook: sharing those stories.

885

00:30:55,605 --> 00:30:56,748

Marc Preston: Yeah, it was, by the way.

886

00:30:56,768 --> 00:30:58,593

Marc Preston: For those who haven't heard it yet, by all

887

00:30:58,633 --> 00:30:59,476

Marc Preston: means go listen to it.

888

00:30:59,945 --> 00:31:01,811

Marc Preston: But he's talked about he was on the set of

889

00:31:02,212 --> 00:31:02,733

Marc Preston: what was the movie.

890

00:31:02,773 --> 00:31:03,756

Marc Preston: It was a big ship.

891

00:31:04,779 --> 00:31:05,140

Marc Preston: What was that?

892

00:31:05,461 --> 00:31:08,169

Marc Preston: Hook, hook, yeah, and then Steven Spielberg,

893

00:31:08,189 --> 00:31:09,855

Marc Preston: of course, and so he just played around.

894

00:31:10,727 --> 00:31:12,594

Marc Preston: I'm like that was such a cool story.

895

00:31:12,765 --> 00:31:14,009

Marc Preston: It's cool whenever somebody's like you know,

896

00:31:14,029 --> 00:31:15,273

Marc Preston: i've never told the story of him before,

897

00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:18,032

Marc Preston: but and like you know to have Bob Saget

898

00:31:18,052 --> 00:31:20,712

Marc Preston: tell you that, but had you spent time with

899

00:31:20,752 --> 00:31:22,468

Marc Preston: him before, i mean leading up to that, or

900

00:31:22,488 --> 00:31:24,173

Marc Preston: had he been in your ecosystem?

901

00:31:24,414 --> 00:31:26,621

Dane Cook: Yeah, he's been in my life for so many

902

00:31:26,662 --> 00:31:28,068

Dane Cook: years And he was actually.

903

00:31:28,168 --> 00:31:31,056

Dane Cook: I met him in Boston in the mid-90s when I

904

00:31:31,096 --> 00:31:32,889

Dane Cook: was coming up, and I actually got to say to

905

00:31:32,949 --> 00:31:36,803

Dane Cook: him when he was on top of the entertainment

906

00:31:36,843 --> 00:31:38,588

Dane Cook: world in terms of Full House and he had

907

00:31:38,628 --> 00:31:41,094

Dane Cook: America's Funniest Videos and we all knew

908

00:31:41,194 --> 00:31:43,667

Dane Cook: that as a stand-up he'd not only broken

909

00:31:43,687 --> 00:31:48,010

Dane Cook: through but he was wealthy, he was popular,

910

00:31:48,485 --> 00:31:50,072

Dane Cook: he had taken comedy to this place.

911

00:31:50,165 --> 00:31:51,390

Dane Cook: We all wanted to be.

912

00:31:52,105 --> 00:31:53,449

Dane Cook: And I remember saying to him you know,

913

00:31:53,489 --> 00:31:55,516

Dane Cook: you're a real inspiration to me.

914

00:31:55,605 --> 00:31:57,390

Dane Cook: And this is when I was, just you know, wet

915

00:31:57,430 --> 00:32:00,225

Dane Cook: behind the ears back in Beantown When I

916

00:32:00,245 --> 00:32:03,393

Dane Cook: finally landed in LA at 98, we bumped into

917

00:32:03,413 --> 00:32:05,318

Dane Cook: each other at the Comedy Club Live Factory,

918

00:32:05,465 --> 00:32:08,153

Dane Cook: probably two weeks later and he just became

919

00:32:08,193 --> 00:32:10,568

Dane Cook: a fast friend And we just continued over

920

00:32:10,589 --> 00:32:12,955

Dane Cook: the years to have that rapport.

921

00:32:13,405 --> 00:32:16,312

Dane Cook: He was nice enough to invite me to this

922

00:32:16,352 --> 00:32:19,507

Dane Cook: Sclerodorm charity events And I would try

923

00:32:19,527 --> 00:32:21,411

Dane Cook: to help him out and do some shows with him

924

00:32:21,491 --> 00:32:24,157

Dane Cook: to bring some attention to that.

925

00:32:25,105 --> 00:32:28,256

Dane Cook: I mean, i was so proud to be able to help

926

00:32:28,337 --> 00:32:30,665

Dane Cook: him when he needed me, but even more so to

927

00:32:30,765 --> 00:32:33,830

Dane Cook: say he was my buddy and that after he'd

928

00:32:33,890 --> 00:32:37,256

Dane Cook: passed, of course, i was so like gobsmacked

929

00:32:37,296 --> 00:32:40,427

Dane Cook: and shocked, but to have had that last

930

00:32:40,488 --> 00:32:42,754

Dane Cook: conversation was such a beautiful gift.

931

00:32:43,516 --> 00:32:45,289

Marc Preston: Yeah, it was in fact.

932

00:32:45,309 --> 00:32:46,893

Marc Preston: I think Bill Burr did the intro to it.

933

00:32:46,933 --> 00:32:49,170

Marc Preston: if I'm not mistaken, it was kind of the

934

00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:49,612

Marc Preston: intro to the show.

935

00:32:49,685 --> 00:32:51,328

Marc Preston: Hey, by the way, i guess that's a spot

936

00:32:51,448 --> 00:32:55,797

Marc Preston: normally where Bob Saga would have done his

937

00:32:55,857 --> 00:32:56,478

Marc Preston: intro to the show.

938

00:32:57,526 --> 00:33:00,352

Dane Cook: I think Bill's company was running the

939

00:33:00,453 --> 00:33:02,257

Dane Cook: podcast at the time.

940

00:33:03,488 --> 00:33:05,937

Dane Cook: I never saw the intro, but that would make

941

00:33:06,037 --> 00:33:06,318

Dane Cook: sense.

942

00:33:06,358 --> 00:33:09,548

Dane Cook: That maybe Bill had recorded something for

943

00:33:09,748 --> 00:33:12,473

Dane Cook: his comedy podcast company is to say we're

944

00:33:12,493 --> 00:33:13,115

Dane Cook: presenting this.

945

00:33:13,475 --> 00:33:14,698

Marc Preston: Yeah, i mean it was a wonder.

946

00:33:15,325 --> 00:33:16,233

Marc Preston: I still haven't had a chance to hear the

947

00:33:16,273 --> 00:33:17,565

Marc Preston: whole thing because my daughter got in the

948

00:33:17,625 --> 00:33:19,271

Marc Preston: car and she of course wants music on.

949

00:33:20,005 --> 00:33:21,510

Marc Preston: Just one more note on the comedy thing in

950

00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:24,409

Marc Preston: the background Who are the guys that you

951

00:33:24,449 --> 00:33:25,654

Marc Preston: were when you started?

952

00:33:26,467 --> 00:33:28,331

Marc Preston: Okay, when you put it in fifth gear and

953

00:33:28,351 --> 00:33:29,834

Marc Preston: you're really going, who are the guys that

954

00:33:29,854 --> 00:33:31,338

Marc Preston: you were checking in with?

955

00:33:31,565 --> 00:33:34,192

Marc Preston: Who was kind of your tribe that you were

956

00:33:34,232 --> 00:33:35,936

Marc Preston: either looking up to, or guys that you were

957

00:33:35,956 --> 00:33:37,268

Marc Preston: like you know you wanted to go see their

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Marc Preston: shows?

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Dane Cook: Wow.

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Dane Cook: Well, there was absolutely a lot of comics.

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Dane Cook: Once I landed in New York City that I was

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Dane Cook: seeing around me in real time were fast

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Dane Cook: becoming the next superstars in comedy.

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Dane Cook: You name a comic, whether it's Dice or

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Dane Cook: Seinfeld or Roseanne.

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Dane Cook: Everybody from that era that really 80s,

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Dane Cook: 90s was blowing up.

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Marc Preston: It wasn't that amazing.

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Marc Preston: Do you think we're going to get an era like

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Marc Preston: that again?

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Marc Preston: I don't mean to cut you off, but you

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Marc Preston: mentioned something.

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Marc Preston: Do you think that's going to take a swing

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Marc Preston: back?

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Marc Preston: We're going to see an era like that in

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Marc Preston: comedy come back?

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Dane Cook: I think we will.

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Dane Cook: I just think it's probably going to be in

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