Fred Melamed | From “A Serious Man” to Hulu’s “Reboot” | Rebooting The Voice

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Fred Melamed: and other foibles that come to my attention

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Fred Melamed: frequently, both my own and other people's,

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Fred Melamed: but I also think that it's beautiful that

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Fred Melamed: people do it, because it's not easy.

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.

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Marc Preston: Hey, how's it going?

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Marc Preston: I'm Marc Preston back, another episode of

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Marc Preston: Story and Craft And I know, i know, i know

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Marc Preston: it's been a few weeks.

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Marc Preston: You're going, Marc, where have you been?

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Marc Preston: I've been working on some very cool, fun

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Marc Preston: projects but also very time consuming

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Marc Preston: projects, so it's been a moment, but we're

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Marc Preston: back.

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Marc Preston: I've been jazzed, i've been looking forward

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Marc Preston: to it because I know I've got like really

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Marc Preston: cool guests coming up.

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Marc Preston: Kind of like today, actor Fred Melamed

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Marc Preston: Little sit down to talk story with one of

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Marc Preston: the most recognizable character actors out

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Marc Preston: there Men in films, kind of like in a world

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Marc Preston: Hale Caesar, the Coen Brothers movie, the

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Marc Preston: Spy Who Dumped Me.

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Marc Preston: Also TV Brooklyn Nine-Nine The Morning Show,

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Marc Preston: barry WandaVision, his new show on Hulu,

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Marc Preston: super Crazy, funny.

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Marc Preston: It is called Reboot.

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Marc Preston: Got Paul Reiser in that one.

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Marc Preston: Johnny Knoxville Cast is awesome, super

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Marc Preston: funny.

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Marc Preston: Again, reboot the show.

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Marc Preston: We'll be talking about it.

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Marc Preston: would be super cool, all right, so let's

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Marc Preston: get after it.

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Marc Preston: Today is Fred Melamed Day, right here on

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Marc Preston: Story and Craft.

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Marc Preston: Thank you so much for taking time out to

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Marc Preston: meet with me today.

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Marc Preston: I so appreciate it.

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Marc Preston: It's my pleasure.

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Marc Preston: Where are you?

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Marc Preston: where are you joining me from?

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Fred Melamed: today I'm in Valley Village, California,

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Fred Melamed: which is in the Valley part of the northern

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Fred Melamed: suburb of Los Angeles.

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Marc Preston: I know you're a New York kid, but are you?

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Marc Preston: is LA your home base now?

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Fred Melamed: It is.

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Fred Melamed: I've lived in LA for about just under 10

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Fred Melamed: years, but you're right that I was born and

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Fred Melamed: spent most of my life in New York.

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Marc Preston: For a New York guy.

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Marc Preston: You had all those great delis.

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Marc Preston: Just a personal question what's it like

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Marc Preston: getting in LA?

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Marc Preston: Where do you like to frequent to grab?

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Marc Preston: is it like Cantors, or is there anywhere

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Marc Preston: else you like to go?

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Fred Melamed: You know Nate Nals was the kind of standard

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Fred Melamed: answer I do like Cantors.

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Fred Melamed: I'm not a huge deli eater actually, but

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Fred Melamed: it's funny.

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Fred Melamed: People often ask me do I miss New York?

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Fred Melamed: And the truth is that New York has changed

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Fred Melamed: so vastly from the time that I lived there

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Fred Melamed: and from the time that I remember growing

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Fred Melamed: up there that there's precious little of it

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Fred Melamed: left to miss anymore.

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Fred Melamed: All the neighborhoods that I was attached

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Fred Melamed: to when I was a kid are gone.

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Fred Melamed: New York has become in many ways like any

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Fred Melamed: other city.

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Fred Melamed: It's just a big homogenous kind of mass.

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Fred Melamed: Also, new York was always expensive, even

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Fred Melamed: when I was a kid, but it was possible for

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Fred Melamed: actors, artists, poets, weirdos of

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Fred Melamed: different stripes to kind of eke out a

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Fred Melamed: Although it was difficult, they could do it

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Fred Melamed: And that added to the intellectual sort of

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Fred Melamed: muscle of the city and also a lot of its

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Fred Melamed: vitality.

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Fred Melamed: But that's really changed.

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Marc Preston: I was surprised that you're hearing about

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Marc Preston: people on Broadway.

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Marc Preston: I think the perception is, if you're on

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Marc Preston: Broadway, you're doing great.

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Marc Preston: I was speaking with Melissa O'Neill.

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Marc Preston: She's on the show the rookie.

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Marc Preston: I was just talking, she was on Broadway.

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Marc Preston: She's like yeah, she's barely eking it out

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Marc Preston: And so maybe it's kind of a misnomer that

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Marc Preston: Broadway means you've made it financially,

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Marc Preston: you've made it professionally, yeah.

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Fred Melamed: I think it's more of a Marc of recognition

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Fred Melamed: than it is actually unless you're kind of a

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Fred Melamed: It's funny I remember I have a good friend,

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Fred Melamed: a woman director, writer, actress named

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Fred Melamed: Lake Bell, and some years back she was

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Fred Melamed: offered the chance to do a show on Broadway

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Fred Melamed: And she was wondering whether she should do

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Fred Melamed: that or take a movie that was coming her

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Fred Melamed: And I made the point that even as a

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Fred Melamed: television, you can work pretty much when

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Fred Melamed: you want to on Broadway.

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Fred Melamed: The reverse is not true.

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Fred Melamed: The power of media is so vast that if

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Fred Melamed: people know you from television or from

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Fred Melamed: movies, it's a much easier jump for you to

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Fred Melamed: do a show on Broadway than it is if you're

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Fred Melamed: a Broadway regular trying to go the other

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Fred Melamed: way.

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Marc Preston: Speaking with someone.

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Marc Preston: The other day and I have always wanted to

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Marc Preston: have an opportunity to sit down with Sam

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Marc Preston: Rockwell, always just enjoyed his work.

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Marc Preston: I'd spoken with two people and they both

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Marc Preston: said, yeah, we're going to go see him.

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Marc Preston: He's on Broadway.

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Marc Preston: It seems like there is a lot of support

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Marc Preston: from the theater folks or the folks that

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Marc Preston: are in film or whatever that came from

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Marc Preston: theater to kind of support their friends

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Marc Preston: who are in performances and will travel to

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Marc Preston: come see that.

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Marc Preston: So, going back real quick, you mentioned

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Marc Preston: Lake Bell.

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Marc Preston: I got to tell you Sam Soto is a voiceover

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Marc Preston: guy, one of my favorite characters ever in

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Marc Preston: the film.

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Marc Preston: It was so thank you.

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Marc Preston: That was so fun, i guess for people that

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Marc Preston: did, i know you do.

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Marc Preston: Vo is part of your ecosystem, without a

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Marc Preston: doubt, but I love the fact Lake Bell took

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Marc Preston: on the side and showcased the characters

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Marc Preston: and voiceover and that whole idea of the

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Marc Preston: thing, or it's back, the idea that

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Marc Preston: voiceover folks are vastly anonymous but we

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Marc Preston: hear them all the time.

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Marc Preston: How did that role come together for you?

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Marc Preston: You just knew her and you're like, hey, we

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Marc Preston: need my dad in this film.

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Marc Preston: How did that come to be?

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Fred Melamed: No, i didn't know her.

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Fred Melamed: I didn't know her at all.

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Fred Melamed: It was an interesting thing.

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Fred Melamed: I had done a film in 2008.

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Fred Melamed: I made a film with the Coen brothers called

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Fred Melamed: A Serious Man, which kind of put me back

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Fred Melamed: For many years.

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Fred Melamed: I won't bore you with the whole trajectory

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Fred Melamed: of my work as an actor, but for about over

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Fred Melamed: 20 years all I did was voice work.

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Fred Melamed: That was all From the early 80s really,

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Fred Melamed: almost until 2000,.

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Fred Melamed: That was practically all I did.

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Fred Melamed: I would do an occasional movie, but I had a

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Fred Melamed: very, very bad experience on Broadway doing

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Fred Melamed: the original medical production of Amadeus

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Fred Melamed: Horrible, crippling, stage fright,

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Fred Melamed: absolutely awful.

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Fred Melamed: I thought, well, i've made this horrible

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Fred Melamed: mistake.

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Fred Melamed: I went to Yale Drama School, i'll be an

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Fred Melamed: actor, but people said it's so hard and I

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Fred Melamed: said I'll show you.

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Fred Melamed: And then I found I really didn't like

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Fred Melamed: acting on stage.

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Fred Melamed: I felt very humiliated because I had

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Fred Melamed: trained to do that.

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Fred Melamed: About what year is this?

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Fred Melamed: roughly, i got out of Drama School in 1981.

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Fred Melamed: This realization is 1983.

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Fred Melamed: End of 1983, and I finished the run of

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Fred Melamed: Amadeus.

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Fred Melamed: End of 83, beginning of 84.

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Fred Melamed: Anyway, i had an agent, harry Abrams, who

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Fred Melamed: was a prominent in the voiceover world.

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Fred Melamed: So I said I'd like to do voiceovers And

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Fred Melamed: this was when the voiceover world was very

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Fred Melamed: different than it is today.

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Fred Melamed: Oh my God, yeah, it was almost 40 years ago.

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Fred Melamed: There weren't the throngs of people

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Fred Melamed: overpowering the gates.

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Fred Melamed: It was a very small coterie of people who

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Fred Melamed: did 90% of the work.

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Fred Melamed: There were about 150 people who did 90% of

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Fred Melamed: the work And everybody knew everybody.

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Marc Preston: back then Nobody knew who was doing the

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Marc Preston: work.

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Fred Melamed: Well, there were no home studios.

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Fred Melamed: So therefore you'd see people either at ad

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Fred Melamed: agencies or movie studios or recording

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Fred Melamed: studios.

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Fred Melamed: You'd see there was a social element to it

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Fred Melamed: because there was no such thing as

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Fred Melamed: internet-based recording in those days.

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Fred Melamed: Anyway, for about 20 years of my life, that

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Fred Melamed: was all I did, and occasionally I would do

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Fred Melamed: a movie.

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Fred Melamed: Like there were a couple of casting

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Fred Melamed: directors who liked me And they would offer

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Fred Melamed: me stuff.

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Fred Melamed: I wouldn't audition, i would get very

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Fred Melamed: spoiled And I made a great deal of money as

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Fred Melamed: a young single guy without responsibilities

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Fred Melamed: in the voiceover world.

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Fred Melamed: I was the voice of MCI, mercedes-benz, sony,

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Fred Melamed: consumer Products, burger King, lots and

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Fred Melamed: lots of advertising and then lots of promos,

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Fred Melamed: as well USA Network as the voice of CBS

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Fred Melamed: Sports.

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Fred Melamed: For many years, anyway, that was all I did.

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Fred Melamed: And then later I got married, i had

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Fred Melamed: children And when I started having

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Fred Melamed: responsibilities there was a big kind of

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Fred Melamed: sea change in the voiceover world And they

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Fred Melamed: started wanting people with real-sounding

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Fred Melamed: voices rather than dramatic James Earl

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Fred Melamed: Jonesy voices.

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Fred Melamed: And all of a sudden I found myself kind of

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Fred Melamed: non-grata after many years of being quite

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Fred Melamed: prominent in the voiceover world, and by

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Fred Melamed: then it was rough because I had a family

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Fred Melamed: and all that stuff.

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Fred Melamed: So my agent called me one day.

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Fred Melamed: This is after.

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Fred Melamed: A serious man came out and said do you know

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Fred Melamed: who Lake Bell is?

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Fred Melamed: And I said well, i know her name, but I

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Fred Melamed: don't really know who she is.

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Fred Melamed: He said well, she's an actress and she's

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Fred Melamed: left a script here for you.

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Fred Melamed: Now this is when I was living in New York.

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Fred Melamed: Lake was already living out in California,

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Fred Melamed: but she had come to New York.

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Fred Melamed: My agent said she's left the script with a

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Fred Melamed: So I went to my agent's office and picked

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Fred Melamed: a lovely handwritten letter saying you know,

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Fred Melamed: my name is Lake Bell.

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Fred Melamed: I don't know if you're familiar with me or

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Fred Melamed: not, but I've written this script and I

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Fred Melamed: Please read it and tell me what you think.

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Fred Melamed: And she didn't know at the time that I had

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Fred Melamed: spent so many years telling those feels,

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Fred Melamed: but she thought that it was plausible that

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Fred Melamed: I would be a voiceover guy.

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Fred Melamed: So I read it and I really liked it.

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Fred Melamed: I really liked the script and I did it.

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Fred Melamed: I came out to California to do it.

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Fred Melamed: This is before I lived in California, but I

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Fred Melamed: You know, this was a shock to me And in

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Fred Melamed: fact when we made the movie the movie was

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Fred Melamed: kind of more about the family, this family

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Fred Melamed: that happens to work in this particular you

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Fred Melamed: It's funny.

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Fred Melamed: I always thought the voiceover world was

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Fred Melamed: kind of this people acted like they were in

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Fred Melamed: was really this adjunct, separate thing.

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Fred Melamed: It was a separate movie business but still,

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Fred Melamed: you know, they drove Maserati's big ones

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Fred Melamed: and they read the box office, you know

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Fred Melamed: But it was kind of a separate, the separate

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Fred Melamed: But it was a great, enjoyable experience

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Fred Melamed: for me because the people in it were great

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Fred Melamed: And it was a great character because he was

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Fred Melamed: and he at the same time, in his own screwy

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Marc Preston: Oh, i love that There is a piece in there

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Marc Preston: where you're trying to say basically and I

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Marc Preston: know it's her words that she wrote but

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Marc Preston: you're basically trying to say there is a

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Marc Preston: reality, this is not the easiest business,

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Marc Preston: this is you're trying to protect her from

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Marc Preston: herself.

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Marc Preston: I think a lot of people who work in the

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Marc Preston: your brakes for a moment.

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Marc Preston: You know you really want to get into this.

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Marc Preston: I love the relationship and just there was

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Marc Preston: that kind of tension there, but you could

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Marc Preston: feel the love.

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Marc Preston: I just love the character.

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Marc Preston: It's, without doubt, my favorite one of the

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Marc Preston: film and actually seeing, like a friend of

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Marc Preston: my, joe Sipriano and the great late, great

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Marc Preston: Marc Elliott.

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Fred Melamed: Oh sure.

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Marc Preston: Marc Elliott, another one of those guys

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Marc Preston: from back in the day, and Marc Grau, who

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Marc Preston: I'm sure you've been in the studio at least

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Marc Preston: a couple of times.

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Fred Melamed: Those guys all became my fast friends Joe

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Fred Melamed: Sipriano, Marc Grau.

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Fred Melamed: We got to know each other well doing that

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Fred Melamed: movie and I've continued to be friends with

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Fred Melamed: them for these many years, which I'm very

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Marc Preston: Now I think that one of the things that's

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Marc Preston: funny is you put, you touched on that.

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Marc Preston: I've been God, i've been doing this like 30,

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Marc Preston: 31 years and coaching talent for about 20.

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Marc Preston: And I've noticed people would come like

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Marc Preston: You know, hey, man, i want to.

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Marc Preston: You know, i got the skills.

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Marc Preston: I want to kind of transfer that to VO and

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Marc Preston: I'm like great, i think.

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Marc Preston: When you got in, i think what a lot of

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Marc Preston: people don't understand movie business.

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Marc Preston: You always needed the agent, you know, And

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Marc Preston: now with VO was like that.

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Marc Preston: But now people, internet, home studio, they

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Marc Preston: can carve out a career.

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Marc Preston: So it is interesting to see how many people

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Marc Preston: just I think a lot of people view it like a

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Fred Melamed: Yeah, it's an utterly different business,

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Fred Melamed: utterly different, i mean it's.

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Fred Melamed: There's no point in belaboring how the

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Fred Melamed: world has changed.

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Fred Melamed: It makes you older than you already are.

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Fred Melamed: But you know, when I was doing a lot of

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Fred Melamed: voiceover work and enjoyed it, it was

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Fred Melamed: entirely different.

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Fred Melamed: First of all, it was all union.

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Fred Melamed: True, there was nobody working on union,

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Fred Melamed: which made an enormous difference I mean, i

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Fred Melamed: was a millionaire when I was in my 30s from

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Fred Melamed: doing it.

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Fred Melamed: Nowadays there's a lot more work, but it's

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Fred Melamed: divided up among many, many, many more

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Fred Melamed: people and the rates are dramatically less.

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Fred Melamed: And there's thousands of people auditioning

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Fred Melamed: for so many jobs And people, because there

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Fred Melamed: are no union standards, there's always

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Fred Melamed: people fighting to do jobs for less and

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Fred Melamed: less and less, and that, you know, that

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Fred Melamed: hasn't, from my perspective, that hasn't

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Fred Melamed: been good for the business at all.

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Fred Melamed: But you know, time marches on and that's

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Fred Melamed: kind of the way it is.

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Fred Melamed: Also, it's also true that I think what

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Fred Melamed: they're looking for has changed and tastes

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Fred Melamed: have changed.

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Fred Melamed: So to me to be worth using, i've always

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Fred Melamed: asked to have some qualities that are

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Fred Melamed: identifiable and that are compelling.

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Fred Melamed: An awful lot of what I hear on television

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Fred Melamed: anyway seems to not distinguish itself.

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Fred Melamed: It seems like everybody sounds like

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Fred Melamed: everybody else.

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Fred Melamed: Look, obviously, some people of whom that

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Fred Melamed: isn't true, but an awful lot of, it seems

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Fred Melamed: very, very, very homogenized and not as

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Fred Melamed: interesting to me.

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Marc Preston: You know it's funny you say that because I

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Marc Preston: think that a lot of people do chase after

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Marc Preston: that the homogenized sound, of which

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Marc Preston: there's a pendulum that swings between the

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Marc Preston: big voices to the unpolished sound, and

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Marc Preston: it's funny.

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Marc Preston: I was speaking with the director, ariel

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Marc Preston: Vroman, and he said on film that's one of

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Marc Preston: the first things he pays attention to is

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Marc Preston: the voice, the sound of the character.

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Marc Preston: He said I don't care how beautiful they are

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Marc Preston: if the way they sound doesn't fit the

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Marc Preston: character, he doesn't really think they're

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Marc Preston: going to fit.

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Marc Preston: But I'm curious though you did mention, to

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Marc Preston: kind of hit rewind on the origin stories

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Marc Preston: you mentioned, you went to Yale.

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Marc Preston: You had a pretty substantial stage bit of

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Marc Preston: stage training.

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Marc Preston: Am I accurate in saying that?

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Fred Melamed: You are absolutely.

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Fred Melamed: I'm not sure how much good it did, but I

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Fred Melamed: was trained in the theater as people In

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Fred Melamed: fact, when I went to Yale.

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Fred Melamed: I went to Yale, which is a graduate program,

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Fred Melamed: drama program from 1978 to 1981, so I got

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Fred Melamed: out in 81, there was absolutely no training

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Fred Melamed: offered whatsoever for television or movies

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Fred Melamed: as part of your training.

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Fred Melamed: The presumption probably arrogant and

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Fred Melamed: incorrect presumption was that if you were

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Fred Melamed: a competent stage actor you would have no

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Fred Melamed: problem transitioning over to other media.

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Fred Melamed: But I don't really think that's true.

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Marc Preston: Now you mentioned the stage fright thing,

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Marc Preston: though How did?

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Marc Preston: it seems almost exceptionally ironic that

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Marc Preston: you would have this training from a great

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Marc Preston: school.

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Marc Preston: What kind of fire that up?

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Marc Preston: Or in 83, you said gosh, this is just not

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Marc Preston: my thing.

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Marc Preston: you know the stage.

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Fred Melamed: My own neuroses, my own inner conflicts.

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Fred Melamed: I think, like many people, i had chosen the

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Fred Melamed: profession that I chose with some partially

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Fred Melamed: unhealthy pretty unhealthy reasons, and I

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Fred Melamed: think that it became clear to me.

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Fred Melamed: Well, i'll explain it a little more

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Fred Melamed: personally.

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Fred Melamed: So I think there are some people who feel

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Fred Melamed: innately lovable They have the good fortune

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Fred Melamed: of feeling innately lovable And there are

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Fred Melamed: other people and I count myself among the

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Fred Melamed: secondary camp of people who feel at some

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Fred Melamed: level that it always must be earned that

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Fred Melamed: they must in some respect be extremely

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Fred Melamed: beautiful, extremely intelligent, extremely

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Fred Melamed: articulate, extremely talented, extremely

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Fred Melamed: charming, extremely compelling in some way.

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Fred Melamed: Otherwise they're more or less

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Fred Melamed: indispensable.

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Fred Melamed: I think that was a kind of a dynamic of my

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Fred Melamed: upbringing And I think I chose to be an

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Fred Melamed: I was very close to my father growing up.

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Fred Melamed: My father was a lovely guy.

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Fred Melamed: He was a producer, early television

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Fred Melamed: producer, very sweet, nice man.

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Fred Melamed: But there was a quality of depression about

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Fred Melamed: him always And I kind of thought that it

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Fred Melamed: was my life's work to make life seem like a

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Fred Melamed: I thought that's what I'm here on earth for.

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Marc Preston: You think the depression, the feeling that

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Marc Preston: he had, the way you interpreted it, do you

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Marc Preston: think that was because of the success with

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Marc Preston: work, wasn't enough?

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Marc Preston: It was just this generalized sense.

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Marc Preston: That's what you're saying.

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Fred Melamed: Yeah, i don't think you.

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Fred Melamed: I think people who have not accomplished

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Fred Melamed: what they want work-wise tend to assign

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Fred Melamed: that threshold as being the thing.

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Fred Melamed: There's always a thing that you're going to

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Fred Melamed: get, that's going to make you happy, that's

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Fred Melamed: going to complete you.

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Fred Melamed: I'm going to finally get married, i'm going

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Fred Melamed: to finally become a millionaire, i'm going

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Fred Melamed: to finally get on Broadway, i'm going to

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Fred Melamed: finally admit that I'm gay, i'm going to

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Fred Melamed: finally do this or that And then, finally,

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Fred Melamed: i will be happy.

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Fred Melamed: Well, the truth is that there is no signal

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Fred Melamed: point like that.

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Fred Melamed: Whatever you achieve, the sense of

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Fred Melamed: emptiness that people have most people have

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Fred Melamed: doesn't derive from a lack of

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Fred Melamed: accomplishment and therefore accomplishing

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Fred Melamed: things doesn't actually ameliorate it.

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Fred Melamed: It has to do with other things Early

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Fred Melamed: psychodynamic forces on you as a child

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Fred Melamed: usually, and how they bounce off the way

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Fred Melamed: So I don't think his depression, the

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Fred Melamed: depressed sort of outlook that he had,

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Fred Melamed: derived from the fact that he wasn't

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Fred Melamed: successful enough.

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Fred Melamed: I think it had to do with deeper things in

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Fred Melamed: his upbringing that I can only guess at.

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Marc Preston: Well, he's from that generation where he

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Marc Preston: probably didn't discuss that stuff too much.

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Marc Preston: He didn't really discuss, And he in

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Marc Preston: particular, yeah, Yeah, I'll talk with my

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Marc Preston: for you, with you, because this is what

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Marc Preston: happened when I was a kid and I was like

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Marc Preston: that's not going to work really well.

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Marc Preston: So when I have kids, I'm not going to do

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Marc Preston: that.

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Marc Preston: So I try to explain to them some of the you

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Marc Preston: know they're mature, they're a couple of

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Marc Preston: them are college kids now, But back then

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Marc Preston: your father probably I'm assuming the

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Marc Preston: generation probably just didn't discuss

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Marc Preston: those internal things too much.

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Fred Melamed: Well, especially.

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Fred Melamed: I mean I think you're right that in general,

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Fred Melamed: in his generation you know he was World War

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Fred Melamed: II generation such things were not openly

521

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Fred Melamed: discussed, and I think he was particularly

522

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Fred Melamed: elusive, secretive about some of his

523

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Fred Melamed: internal life.

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Fred Melamed: I think that was just his nature, anyway,

525

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Fred Melamed: to bring this back around.

526

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Fred Melamed: So I think I took a lot of that into my

527

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Fred Melamed: acting and I thought it's the actor's job

528

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Fred Melamed: to be kind of superhuman.

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Fred Melamed: And I remember going to the theater and

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Fred Melamed: feeling this great weight that I had this

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Fred Melamed: responsibility, and I began to resent the

532

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Fred Melamed: audience, which is something you sure don't

533

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Fred Melamed: want to do, right?

534

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Fred Melamed: And I felt horrible because I thought you

535

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Fred Melamed: know here, you know I've trained to do this

536

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Fred Melamed: and I said it's what I want to do and

537

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Fred Melamed: people are paying a lot of money for these

538

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Fred Melamed: tickets and it's a great work, it's a great

539

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Fred Melamed: play, and yet all my effort is going to

540

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Fred Melamed: just getting myself through this play

541

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Fred Melamed: instead of being great at it, because it's

542

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Fred Melamed: so hard for me to just do it.

543

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Fred Melamed: And when I finished the run of it, i

544

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Fred Melamed: finished the show and then I thought, well,

545

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Fred Melamed: i don't want to set foot on stage again, i

546

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Fred Melamed: really don't.

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Fred Melamed: And I felt extremely defeated by it and

548

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Fred Melamed: very upset by it.

549

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Fred Melamed: But I needed to make a living and so I got

550

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Fred Melamed: lucky in the voice of a world.

551

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Fred Melamed: I got a couple of big accounts.

552

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Fred Melamed: I got Conoco Oil right out of the chute,

553

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Fred Melamed: which at the time was a big oil company,

554

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Fred Melamed: and then I got MCI, which nobody remembers,

555

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Fred Melamed: which was a phone company.

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Marc Preston: My first big national actually was GTE with

557

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Marc Preston: Patrick Stewart back in 93.

558

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Marc Preston: I say GTE as I could try to explain to my

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Marc Preston: kids.

560

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Marc Preston: You had to actually get your own separate

561

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Marc Preston: long distance service and they're like

562

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Marc Preston: what's long distance?

563

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Marc Preston: But yeah, that was a big deal back then to

564

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Marc Preston: have that kind of an account.

565

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Fred Melamed: Yeah, no, it was great.

566

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Fred Melamed: I was very lucky and I did very well,

567

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Fred Melamed: especially for a person with no response.

568

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Fred Melamed: I was a single guy, a Dinemini, major

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Fred Melamed: financial responsibilities, so it was from

570

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Fred Melamed: that point of view it was great.

571

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Fred Melamed: It was artistically, i was writing and

572

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Fred Melamed: doing some other things which kind of

573

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Fred Melamed: satisfied some of my needs.

574

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Fred Melamed: But I was more concerned that I was making

575

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Fred Melamed: a living and that I was, within that small

576

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Fred Melamed: world, kind of a big player.

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Fred Melamed: But then around the early 2000s that

578

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Fred Melamed: suddenly ceased to be.

579

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Fred Melamed: There was this massive change.

580

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Fred Melamed: But to go back to what we were saying,

581

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Fred Melamed: talking about Lake and that movie, i really

582

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Fred Melamed: didn't understand when that movie was made

583

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Fred Melamed: quite how much the ranks were swollen with

584

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Fred Melamed: people trying to get in.

585

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Fred Melamed: So I started to do it.

586

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Fred Melamed: Every two or three years there'd be an

587

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Fred Melamed: article in TV Guide that said the

588

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Fred Melamed: millionaire voices you never see, and then

589

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Fred Melamed: for maybe a month there'd be people trying

590

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Fred Melamed: to get into it and then it would quiet down.

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Fred Melamed: But it's become this kind of entirely

592

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Fred Melamed: different thing now.

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Fred Melamed: I often wonder why people are so attracted

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Fred Melamed: to it.

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Fred Melamed: I think part of it is because there are

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Fred Melamed: people who are intimidated by the way that

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Fred Melamed: they look.

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Fred Melamed: They don't feel very confident about how

599

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Fred Melamed: they look, but they know that they can do

600

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Fred Melamed: different things with their voices And some

601

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Fred Melamed: people, including me, feel freer orally

602

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Fred Melamed: than they do AU orally than they do

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Fred Melamed: physically.

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Fred Melamed: I think that's also part of it.

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Fred Melamed: Also, i think people like the idea this

606

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Fred Melamed: kind of probably incorrect idea that it's

607

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Fred Melamed: not so hard.

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Fred Melamed: You know you can be your own boss and wear

609

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Fred Melamed: pajamas and stuff like that.

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Fred Melamed: I think any career where you're responsible

611

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Fred Melamed: for being hired by yourself is a lot of

612

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Fred Melamed: work You wind up having to do.

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Fred Melamed: You know the job becomes about getting jobs.

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Marc Preston: Well, what I tell my students and the

615

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Marc Preston: people that approach me on occasion I say,

616

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Marc Preston: listen, there was an.

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Marc Preston: I even wrote a little article about it once

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Marc Preston: and I said you know, the equipment is so

619

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Marc Preston: much less to buy it The ability to get on

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Marc Preston: the internet and find out people to hire

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Marc Preston: you.

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Marc Preston: You can actually carve a career out without

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Marc Preston: having one of the big agents, and I think

624

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Marc Preston: it's just a creative thing that I think

625

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Marc Preston: people perceive as it being within reach.

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Marc Preston: You know, especially like you mentioned,

627

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Marc Preston: the nature of the voices that people want,

628

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Marc Preston: and advertising, or in promos or in

629

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Marc Preston: different genres, is different.

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Marc Preston: But I don't know where it came from.

631

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Marc Preston: And I tell folks, unless you're really

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Marc Preston: willing to commit yourself emotionally,

633

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Marc Preston: artistically and everything and really put

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Marc Preston: in the time, sell baskets on Etsy or

635

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Marc Preston: something.

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Marc Preston: You know this is not a side hustle.

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Marc Preston: You know you're going to be very

638

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Marc Preston: discouraged very quickly.

639

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Marc Preston: And then there are people out there like

640

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Marc Preston: yourself or Joseph Riano and those guys we

641

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Marc Preston: mentioned, that they're around for decades

642

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Marc Preston: because they adapt and they're.

643

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Marc Preston: You know they got that a special sauce.

644

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Marc Preston: You know if you will.

645

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Fred Melamed: And most of those guys actually are now

646

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Fred Melamed: doing a lot of teaching because even they,

647

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Fred Melamed: even their diet of work, has been much

648

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Fred Melamed: reduced because the work has been so spread

649

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Fred Melamed: out And there are major companies now big

650

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Fred Melamed: major companies that don't want to pay

651

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Fred Melamed: union rates.

652

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Fred Melamed: So therefore they're hiring people, you

653

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Fred Melamed: know, who are working out of a garage

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Fred Melamed: somewhere.

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Fred Melamed: You know, i don't begrudge people's desire

656

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Fred Melamed: to make a living, however they want to do

657

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Fred Melamed: it, but for me, you know, somebody says,

658

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Fred Melamed: well, i'm a professional voiceover artist.

659

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Fred Melamed: Well, they're telling the truth.

660

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Fred Melamed: But that's like saying I'm a professional

661

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Fred Melamed: musician and I play in a band every night

662

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Fred Melamed: and we play bar mitzvahs or weddings, or,

663

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Fred Melamed: you know, maybe once a while we play in a

664

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Fred Melamed: bar.

665

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Fred Melamed: Well, that guy's a professional musician

666

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Fred Melamed: and he can even be a very good musician,

667

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Fred Melamed: but that's a slogging life that I wouldn't

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Fred Melamed: want.

669

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Fred Melamed: So, you know, is it better to work in a

670

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Fred Melamed: dentist's office, you know, and make

671

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Fred Melamed: $50,000 a year, $60,000 a year?

672

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Fred Melamed: or is it better to be a voiceover artist

673

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Fred Melamed: and do that?

674

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Fred Melamed: I don't know.

675

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Fred Melamed: It's, you know, but for me, i always I

676

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Fred Melamed: don't think I would feel satisfied unless I

677

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Fred Melamed: had the larger stage to work on.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, it was funny.

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Marc Preston: I think I started in voiceover roughly

680

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Marc Preston: about $92, $93, somewhere in there, and my

681

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Marc Preston: mentor, a gentleman at Dallas University at

682

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Marc Preston: the time, was a voice of American Airlines.

683

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Marc Preston: Back then you could just do regional work

684

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Marc Preston: or even in a big metropolitan area you can

685

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Marc Preston: carve out an amazing career.

686

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Marc Preston: He I remember he was just talking about how

687

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Marc Preston: in the 80s it was money hand over fist And

688

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Marc Preston: we're talking about early 90s, which was

689

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Marc Preston: still going pretty well back then.

690

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Marc Preston: But that's really interesting to have a

691

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Marc Preston: chance to speak with someone who did have a

692

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Marc Preston: chance to enjoy a career early on doing

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Marc Preston: just voiceover.

694

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Marc Preston: But you're to say it's a success story.

695

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Marc Preston: It's a grotesque understatement, but you've

696

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Marc Preston: had equal success, i feel, on camera.

697

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Marc Preston: I mean, anytime you show up.

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Marc Preston: This is not meant to stroke you at all, but

699

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Marc Preston: anytime you show up in something, i'm like,

700

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Marc Preston: oh, okay, it's going to get good.

701

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Marc Preston: Just in some way, one division.

702

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Marc Preston: I had no idea you were on the show, my son,

703

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Marc Preston: he's getting me all schooled up on the

704

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Marc Preston: Marvel universe And I was like, wait,

705

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Marc Preston: there's Fred right.

706

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Marc Preston: I was like, okay, this is going to get good,

707

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Marc Preston: this is going to get interesting, you know,

708

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Marc Preston: or you know you're, oh gosh, the spy who

709

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Marc Preston: dumped me.

710

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Marc Preston: You being a bad guy is like, yes, okay,

711

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Marc Preston: more of this, it's, it's.

712

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Marc Preston: I do adore seeing you show up, because

713

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Marc Preston: there's always going to be a leveling up in

714

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Marc Preston: that moment, i think And again, i'm not

715

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Marc Preston: trying to stroke you, i'm just, like always,

716

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Marc Preston: happy to see you arrive on screen.

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Fred Melamed: Well, i appreciate you saying that.

718

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Fred Melamed: I mean, my whole thing is I want people, i

719

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Fred Melamed: want, i want to be, i want people to be

720

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Fred Melamed: entertained by what I do.

721

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Fred Melamed: I want I want it to be enjoyable.

722

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Fred Melamed: Now, what constitutes entertainment is, you

723

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Fred Melamed: know, different for different people.

724

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Fred Melamed: I'm on a show now called Barry I'm, i'm, we

725

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Fred Melamed: just started working this week on the

726

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Fred Melamed: second, my second season, therefore, season,

727

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Fred Melamed: but my second season on it, and that's a

728

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Fred Melamed: show It's on HBO or HBO Max, for those

729

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Fred Melamed: people that have streaming where it veers

730

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Fred Melamed: wildly between funny and harrowing.

731

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Fred Melamed: Yes, it's, you know, but but, but Bill

732

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Fred Melamed: Hader, the guy who is the lead and also the

733

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Fred Melamed: writer, director of it, is able to walk

734

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Fred Melamed: that line with, to me, unbelievable skill.

735

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Fred Melamed: So I always, you know, i to me, i, i, i,

736

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Fred Melamed: it's important to to that I be entertained

737

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Fred Melamed: when I watch something.

738

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Fred Melamed: So I'm always, i'm always, i'm always

739

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Fred Melamed: hoping to sort of haunt the audience.

740

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Fred Melamed: That's, you know, when something's really

741

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Fred Melamed: good, when I see a movie or a TV show or

742

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Fred Melamed: play or even read a book even read a book,

743

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Fred Melamed: that's really good.

744

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Fred Melamed: It keeps replaying through my head, i keep

745

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Fred Melamed: thinking about it.

746

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Fred Melamed: That's how I know that it's good.

747

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Fred Melamed: Yeah.

748

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Marc Preston: I'm the exact same way.

749

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Marc Preston: If I see a movie that affects me some way,

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Marc Preston: the whole next day it just pops into my

751

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Marc Preston: mind.

752

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Marc Preston: There's something about it, a performance

753

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Marc Preston: or a line or something like that.

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Marc Preston: That's funny.

755

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Marc Preston: I'm the same way as you, Yeah.

756

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Fred Melamed: And for me characters are the whole, are

757

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Fred Melamed: really the most interesting thing For me.

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Fred Melamed: The characters are what really

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Fred Melamed: distinguishes something Like you know I've

760

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Fred Melamed: seen The Godfather God A Zillion Times.

761

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Fred Melamed: You know I that's one of those movies where,

762

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Fred Melamed: even if it just happens to come on

763

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Fred Melamed: television, you know I'll just watch it.

764

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Fred Melamed: I'll just stop whatever I'm doing and just

765

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Fred Melamed: watch it, even though I've seen it so many

766

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Fred Melamed: times.

767

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Fred Melamed: But if you ask me to tell you the plot of

768

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Fred Melamed: The Godfather, i could only give you kind

769

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Fred Melamed: of a very general idea of the plot, of what

770

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Fred Melamed: actually happens.

771

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Fred Melamed: But there are so many things, moments of

772

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Fred Melamed: characters, things that happen that I

773

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Fred Melamed: remember so vividly, and that's the

774

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Fred Melamed: characters.

775

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Fred Melamed: So for me the story, the plot is kind of

776

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Fred Melamed: like this clothesline on which the

777

30:33 ,475 --> 00:30:35,280

Fred Melamed: characters are hung, But it's the

778

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Fred Melamed: characters that make that bring me back to

779

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Fred Melamed: things.

780

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Fred Melamed: You know.

781

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Fred Melamed: It's the kind of human element of things.

782

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Marc Preston: Yeah, It's being a character.

783

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Marc Preston: I mean I, I have only gotten through one

784

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Marc Preston: season of Barry so far, but Henry Winkler,

785

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Marc Preston: it is so nice to see him be an unpleasant

786

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Marc Preston: person for once.

787

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Fred Melamed: It's so interesting, isn't it?

788

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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's.

789

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Marc Preston: It's like wait, that's not, that's not the

790

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Marc Preston: Henry Winkler.

791

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Marc Preston: But you know it's almost for him to pull

792

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Marc Preston: that off and everybody knows he's a mens.

793

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Marc Preston: You know is, is is a trick, but that's,

794

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Marc Preston: that's a great show.

795

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Fred Melamed: Yeah, i play his agent Did you come in at

796

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Fred Melamed: season three or, yes, this past season, the

797

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Fred Melamed: season.

798

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Fred Melamed: That's the latest season and we just

799

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Fred Melamed: started the next season, just began it.

800

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Fred Melamed: I knew Henry from before because we had

801

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Fred Melamed: done a show together called Children's

802

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Fred Melamed: Hospital.

803

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Fred Melamed: And there was another man, alec Berg, that

804

31:21 ,287 --> 00:31:23,112

Fred Melamed: was one of the creators of Barry.

805

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Fred Melamed: That I also knew because I had worked with

806

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Fred Melamed: him on Caribbean enthusiasm and some of the

807

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Fred Melamed: Sacha Baronan con films.

808

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Fred Melamed: So it was very wonderful for me because I

809

31:33 ,869 --> 00:31:35,292

Fred Melamed: already knew a bunch of the people and it

810

31:35 ,332 --> 00:31:35,713

Fred Melamed: was great.

811

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Fred Melamed: You're right that Henry is known you know

812

31:41 ,722 --> 00:31:43,968

Fred Melamed: aptly for being one of the sweetest, nicest

813

31:44 ,008 --> 00:31:46,253

Fred Melamed: people you'll ever encounter anywhere.

814

31:47 ,401 --> 00:31:49,347

Fred Melamed: But it is great to see him play this kind

815

31:49 ,387 --> 00:31:52,723

Fred Melamed: of demi-jerk acting teacher with all of his

816

31:52 ,784 --> 00:31:53,666

Fred Melamed: selfishness and all that.

817

31:53 ,786 --> 00:31:55,350

Fred Melamed: And I don't want to ruin it for people that

818

31:55 ,370 --> 00:31:56,092

Fred Melamed: may not have seen it.

819

31:56 ,621 --> 00:31:58,326

Fred Melamed: But some other people who start off very

820

31:58 ,426 --> 00:32:00,953

Fred Melamed: nice or you might think they're very nice,

821

32:02 ,981 --> 00:32:05,142

Fred Melamed: notably Sally.

822

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Fred Melamed: The character of Sally has a big.

823

32:08 ,090 --> 00:32:11,023

Fred Melamed: As you go on she changes and one of the

824

32:11 ,043 --> 00:32:12,507

Fred Melamed: things that the writers of that show love

825

32:12 ,527 --> 00:32:14,872

Fred Melamed: to do is to confound the audience's

826

32:14 ,932 --> 00:32:17,426

Fred Melamed: expectations, but in a ways that actually

827

32:17 ,466 --> 00:32:18,069

Fred Melamed: makes sense.

828

32:20 ,009 --> 00:32:21,316

Fred Melamed: So I have high praise for that show.

829

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Fred Melamed: I really love that show.

830

32:22 Choosing Roles Based on Contradictions (114 Seconds)

32:22 ,401 --> 00:32:23,824

Marc Preston: You always seem to get on really

831

32:23 ,984 --> 00:32:25,066

Marc Preston: interesting ensembles.

832

32:25 ,126 --> 00:32:27,752

Marc Preston: I mean part of the story of your career

833

32:27 ,772 --> 00:32:29,922

Marc Preston: that I enjoy so much is where you find you

834

32:29 ,943 --> 00:32:31,346

Marc Preston: know you've had a chance to work with Woody

835

32:31 ,427 --> 00:32:34,702

Marc Preston: Allen more than once, the Coen Brothers Do

836

32:34 ,742 --> 00:32:37,191

Marc Preston: you make decisions on projects based upon

837

32:38 ,081 --> 00:32:38,603

Marc Preston: What do you?

838

32:38 ,864 --> 00:32:40,649

Marc Preston: what is your criteria when you're looking

839

32:40 ,669 --> 00:32:41,331

Marc Preston: to take a role?

840

32:42 ,221 --> 00:32:43,627

Marc Preston: What are the criteria you look at before

841

32:43 ,667 --> 00:32:44,189

Marc Preston: you say yes?

842

32:45 ,141 --> 00:32:46,647

Fred Melamed: Well, there are a few different criteria.

843

32:48 ,304 --> 00:32:50,970

Fred Melamed: One thing that's important to me is the

844

32:51 ,010 --> 00:32:54,364

Fred Melamed: people that I'm working with, so it was an

845

32:54 ,424 --> 00:32:56,611

Fred Melamed: opportunity to work with the Coens again,

846

32:57 ,754 --> 00:33:03,063

Fred Melamed: or somebody like Bill Hader or Paul Thomas

847

33:03 ,124 --> 00:33:05,775

Fred Melamed: Anderson, for example, who I love Now his

848

33:05 ,835 --> 00:33:06,960

Fred Melamed: father was a big VO guy.

849

33:07 ,702 --> 00:33:08,423

Marc Preston: He was indeed.

850

33:08 ,704 --> 00:33:11,490

Marc Preston: Ernie Anderson has a great for people that

851

33:11 ,510 --> 00:33:12,291

Marc Preston: haven't had chance to listen.

852

33:12 ,552 --> 00:33:15,305

Marc Preston: The Outtake Real Ernie Anderson's Outtake

853

33:15 ,365 --> 00:33:18,567

Marc Preston: Real is so satisfying to listen to,

854

33:18 ,768 --> 00:33:20,172

Marc Preston: especially her voice over the talent.

855

33:20 ,702 --> 00:33:23,271

Marc Preston: It's just like oh, yes, yes, you know that

856

33:23 ,291 --> 00:33:24,636

Marc Preston: anyway, ernie Anderson was.

857

33:24 ,937 --> 00:33:25,920

Marc Preston: But yeah, i didn't mean to wrap you, i'm

858

33:25 ,940 --> 00:33:27,424

Marc Preston: sorry, but you said Paul Thomas Anderson.

859

33:27 ,444 --> 00:33:29,309

Marc Preston: I'm thinking you know what a, what a nice

860

33:29 ,329 --> 00:33:30,292

Marc Preston: dad I'd like to grow up with Ernie.

861

33:31 ,701 --> 00:33:33,464

Marc Preston: So your decision is who you get to work

862

33:33 ,484 --> 00:33:33,945

Marc Preston: with.

863

33:34 ,006 --> 00:33:34,847

Fred Melamed: That's one thing.

864

33:35 ,248 --> 00:33:39,761

Fred Melamed: Then there is the character, and in

865

33:39 ,842 --> 00:33:41,967

Fred Melamed: characters I'm always interested in people

866

33:42 ,227 --> 00:33:42,608

Fred Melamed: that are.

867

33:42 ,929 --> 00:33:44,432

Fred Melamed: I'm interested in the opposites within

868

33:44 ,472 --> 00:33:44,773

Fred Melamed: people.

869

33:45 ,362 --> 00:33:47,006

Fred Melamed: I'm interested in people who are, who have

870

33:47 ,046 --> 00:33:49,032

Fred Melamed: contradictory things within them.

871

33:50 ,102 --> 00:33:53,544

Fred Melamed: To give you an example the guy that you

872

33:53 ,584 --> 00:33:56,242

Fred Melamed: mentioned, sam Soto like Bill's character's

873

33:56 ,383 --> 00:34:00,110

Fred Melamed: father in In a World, is obviously, you

874

34:00 ,150 --> 00:34:03,144

Fred Melamed: know, vain and kind of narcissistic, but

875

34:03 ,205 --> 00:34:05,501

Fred Melamed: his feet are so clearly made of clay, he's

876

34:05 ,562 --> 00:34:07,450

Fred Melamed: so threatened that he can't even compete

877

34:07 ,471 --> 00:34:09,319

Fred Melamed: with his own daughter and he loves his

878

34:09 ,359 --> 00:34:09,540

Fred Melamed: daughter.

879

34:10 ,102 --> 00:34:12,208

Fred Melamed: So it's interesting to me when people have

880

34:12 ,308 --> 00:34:14,275

Fred Melamed: inconsistencies, that's always a great

881

34:14 ,335 --> 00:34:15,980

Fred Melamed: thing to play a character that like that.

882

34:16 ,681 --> 00:34:18,164

Fred Melamed: And then there's money to be considered.

883

34:18 ,765 --> 00:34:21,611

Fred Melamed: Now I have two no longer teenage 20 year

884

34:21 ,671 --> 00:34:25,284

Fred Melamed: old boys, twins and college and all that is

885

34:25 ,344 --> 00:34:27,650

Fred Melamed: going on, and I just got divorced about a

886

34:27 ,751 --> 00:34:28,332

Fred Melamed: year ago.

887

34:29 ,122 --> 00:34:31,530

Fred Melamed: So money is not to be sneered at either.

888

34:33 ,842 --> 00:34:34,747

Marc Preston: Sorry, i don't mean to laugh.

889

34:34 ,847 --> 00:34:36,395

Marc Preston: I'm kind of like the been there done that

890

34:36 ,455 --> 00:34:36,898

Marc Preston: thing Yeah.

891

34:37 ,199 --> 00:34:37,320

Fred Melamed: Yeah.

892

34:38 ,423 --> 00:34:41,071

Fred Melamed: So there's different piles and most actors

893

34:42 ,001 --> 00:34:44,330

Fred Melamed: have a pile of stuff that they do because

894

34:44 ,370 --> 00:34:45,454

Fred Melamed: they want to do it, because there's

895

34:45 ,474 --> 00:34:46,658

Fred Melamed: somebody they want to work with or it's a

896

34:46 ,698 --> 00:34:48,347

Fred Melamed: great script, and they have a pile of

897

34:48 ,488 --> 00:34:49,716

Fred Melamed: things that they do because they need to

898

34:49 ,777 --> 00:34:52,224

Fred Melamed: make some money And, if you're really lucky,

899

34:52 ,665 --> 00:34:54,489

Fred Melamed: you get a kind of a confluence between them

900

34:54 ,529 --> 00:34:56,553

Fred Melamed: and there's some projects that cover more

901

34:56 ,573 --> 00:34:57,214

Fred Melamed: than one base.

902

34:58 ,041 --> 00:34:59,445

Fred Melamed: But I think most people are not aware of

903

34:59 ,485 --> 00:35:02,704

Fred Melamed: the fact that in movies, for example, you

904

35:02 ,744 --> 00:35:04,597

Fred Melamed: do a lot of a lot of people do a lot of

905

35:04 ,658 --> 00:35:07,890

Fred Melamed: movies for very little money, even very big

906

35:07 ,950 --> 00:35:11,960

Fred Melamed: stars, because the movies just can't afford.

907

35:12 ,703 --> 00:35:13,907

Fred Melamed: I'm not talking about, you know, marvel

908

35:13 ,968 --> 00:35:16,563

Fred Melamed: movies, but I'm talking about movies that

909

35:16 ,983 --> 00:35:21,232

Fred Melamed: appeal to a more kind of artsy side of

910

35:22 ,113 --> 00:35:23,035

Fred Melamed: those artists.

911

35:25 ,123 --> 00:35:26,427

Fred Melamed: They do them because they want to do them

912

35:26 ,527 --> 00:35:28,272

Fred Melamed: and they can't support big salaries.

913

35:29 ,146 --> 00:35:30,637

Fred Melamed: And then they do other movies on which they

914

35:30 ,657 --> 00:35:31,060

Fred Melamed: get a big payday.

915

35:31 ,060 --> 00:35:33,211

Fred Melamed: But even really big, famous actors do a lot

916

35:33 ,292 --> 00:35:34,338

Fred Melamed: of stuff for very little.

917

35:34 ,419 --> 00:35:36,419

Fred Melamed: Also, you're speaking of those life changes.

918

35:38 ,331 --> 00:35:39,317

Marc Preston: That's got to be an interesting time in

919

35:39 ,338 --> 00:35:39,740

Marc Preston: your life right now.

920

35:41 ,206 --> 00:35:42,853

Marc Preston: And I've got two kids at Loyola in New

921

35:42 ,934 --> 00:35:44,340

Marc Preston: Orleans and she's 19.

922

35:44 ,380 --> 00:35:46,488

Marc Preston: My son's turning 18 shortly I'm going God,

923

35:46 ,508 --> 00:35:47,319

Marc Preston: they're going to be 20.

924

35:47 ,461 --> 00:35:49,133

Marc Preston: And my youngest is still 16, so I still got

925

35:49 ,153 --> 00:35:49,697

Marc Preston: a little bit of time.

926

35:52 ,067 --> 00:35:53,675

Marc Preston: And of course, i have a divorce and I know

927

35:53 ,715 --> 00:35:54,218

Marc Preston: that's not where you are.

928

35:54 ,238 --> 00:35:54,560

Marc Preston: That's not easy.

929

35:56 ,046 --> 00:35:57,632

Fred Melamed: Now, when you say, of course I have a

930

35:57 ,672 --> 00:35:58,656

Fred Melamed: divorce, why do you say of course you have

931

35:58 ,676 --> 00:35:58,917

Fred Melamed: a divorce?

932

35:58 ,977 --> 00:35:59,861

Fred Melamed: I mean, of course you have a divorce, you

933

35:59 ,881 --> 00:36:00,506

Fred Melamed: have to be divorced.

934

36:01 ,240 --> 00:36:02,763

Marc Preston: Of course, with your divorce added into the

935

36:02 ,823 --> 00:36:04,206

Marc Preston: equation.

936

36:04 ,427 --> 00:36:05,048

Fred Melamed: My divorce.

937

36:05 ,068 --> 00:36:06,010

Fred Melamed: Oh yeah, yeah, I thought you were saying

938

36:06 ,030 --> 00:36:06,572

Fred Melamed: your divorce?

939

36:06 ,692 --> 00:36:08,604

Marc Preston: Oh yeah, that too, but but no, i know that

940

36:08 ,644 --> 00:36:10,370

Marc Preston: it's of course that's never easy.

941

36:10 ,460 --> 00:36:12,508

Marc Preston: I'm sorry I probably did not enunciate

942

36:12 ,548 --> 00:36:14,546

Marc Preston: properly, but the thing is you have all

943

36:14 ,566 --> 00:36:16,624

Marc Preston: these life changes, so that's kind of a

944

36:16 ,745 --> 00:36:18,550

Marc Preston: probably in a growth spot for you a little

945

36:18 ,610 --> 00:36:18,771

Marc Preston: bit.

946

36:18 ,820 --> 00:36:20,407

Marc Preston: You know things are a little different.

947

36:20 ,701 --> 00:36:22,368

Marc Preston: Are you looking at anything differently now?

948

36:22 ,500 --> 00:36:25,006

Marc Preston: Is it what kind of projects or experiences

949

36:25 ,067 --> 00:36:26,310

Marc Preston: you want to be having right now in your

950

36:26 ,330 --> 00:36:27,192

Marc Preston: career or personally?

951

36:27 ,721 --> 00:36:28,062

Marc Preston: Sure?

952

36:28 ,644 --> 00:36:30,891

Fred Melamed: I'm looking at several things different.

953

36:31 ,201 --> 00:36:33,028

Fred Melamed: I'm looking at women differently, certainly

954

36:33 ,221 --> 00:36:37,882

Fred Melamed: Now that I'm unattached ogling might be the

955

36:37 ,922 --> 00:36:41,652

Fred Melamed: right, wrong word, but certainly a

956

36:41 ,692 --> 00:36:42,053

Fred Melamed: different.

957

36:42 ,360 --> 00:36:43,262

Fred Melamed: Yeah, and I have a.

958

36:43 ,562 --> 00:36:47,389

Fred Melamed: You know I have some interest in particular.

959

36:47 ,610 --> 00:36:52,183

Fred Melamed: you know one, but I won't bore the audience

960

36:52 ,203 --> 00:36:52,544

Fred Melamed: with that.

961

36:53 ,567 --> 00:36:55,200

Fred Melamed: Yes, so that has changed.

962

36:56 ,287 --> 00:36:57,656

Fred Melamed: Of course divorces change things,

963

36:57 ,676 --> 00:36:58,949

Fred Melamed: financially certainly, and emotionally,

964

36:58 ,969 --> 00:36:59,820

Fred Melamed: there's no doubt about it.

965

37:00 ,542 --> 00:37:07,884

Fred Melamed: You know I I'm a person who had certain

966

37:01 Adjusting to Family Changes (79 Seconds)

37:08 ,125 --> 00:37:10,411

Fred Melamed: problems, deficits in my early

967

37:10 ,431 --> 00:37:12,709

Fred Melamed: relationships with my parents, some

968

37:12 ,729 --> 00:37:14,985

Fred Melamed: problems in there, and I kind of thought

969

37:15 ,547 --> 00:37:19,207

Fred Melamed: when I'd have my own family I would strive,

970

37:19 ,649 --> 00:37:21,759

Fred Melamed: do my best to remedy those things and not,

971

37:21 ,779 --> 00:37:25,148

Fred Melamed: you know, and I felt like for a while I was

972

37:25 ,549 --> 00:37:27,634

Fred Melamed: successful at that and I was very gratified

973

37:27 ,674 --> 00:37:33,640

Fred Melamed: by it, and then it fell apart.

974

37:34 ,788 --> 00:37:36,097

Fred Melamed: So it's a big adjustment to, you know, have

975

37:36 ,118 --> 00:37:36,460

Fred Melamed: to deal with it.

976

37:36 ,864 --> 00:37:38,097

Fred Melamed: I mean, obviously my children are still my

977

37:38 ,117 --> 00:37:42,767

Fred Melamed: children, my ex-wife is still around, but

978

37:42 ,888 --> 00:37:44,476

Fred Melamed: we were a happy family for a long time and

979

37:44 ,496 --> 00:37:46,846

Fred Melamed: it's quite an adjustment to have to have to

980

37:46 ,867 --> 00:37:49,960

Fred Melamed: have that, see that kind of fall away.

981

37:51 ,206 --> 00:37:52,915

Fred Melamed: And you know we're still a family of sorts

982

37:52 ,995 --> 00:37:53,940

Fred Melamed: but we're much more dislocated than we were.

983

37:56 ,770 --> 00:37:59,019

Fred Melamed: And you know I'm 66 years old and you know

984

37:59 ,039 --> 00:38:02,808

Fred Melamed: I didn't the idea of dragging my 66 year

985

38:02 ,868 --> 00:38:04,552

Fred Melamed: old ass out into the cold winds of the

986

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Fred Melamed: dating world did not particularly welcome

987

38:07 ,398 --> 00:38:07,519

Fred Melamed: me.

988

38:07 ,559 --> 00:38:10,007

Marc Preston: No laughing, believe me, i am, i'm here,

989

38:10 ,047 --> 00:38:11,573

Marc Preston: with you speaking with a good friend who

990

38:11 ,593 --> 00:38:14,808

Marc Preston: was going through the exact same thing And

991

38:14 ,829 --> 00:38:16,178

Marc Preston: I said it's like getting back to a place

992

38:16 ,198 --> 00:38:19,216

Marc Preston: you've never been And it's ironic because

993

38:19 ,236 --> 00:38:19,940

Marc Preston: you're still a family of sorts.

994

38:19 ,940 --> 00:38:20,421

Marc Preston: You're single.

995

38:20 ,461 --> 00:38:22,367

Marc Preston: You've been single before you've, but now

996

38:22 ,407 --> 00:38:23,991

Marc Preston: you have kids, you have life experiences,

997

38:24 ,020 --> 00:38:25,466

Marc Preston: so there's no, like I say, you can never go

998

38:25 ,546 --> 00:38:25,767

Marc Preston: home.

999

38:25 ,840 --> 00:38:28,167

Marc Preston: I think that the concept of being single

Speaker:1000

38:28 ,729 --> 00:38:29,411

Marc Preston: does change.

Speaker:1001

38:30 ,081 --> 00:38:31,565

Marc Preston: I was reading an article yesterday about

Speaker:1002

38:31 ,585 --> 00:38:33,309

Marc Preston: people doing online dating and how that's

Speaker:1003

38:33 ,389 --> 00:38:35,341

Marc Preston: changed the paradigm, and they said that

Speaker:1004

38:35 ,362 --> 00:38:38,690

Marc Preston: there are more single guys now because more

Speaker:1005

38:38 ,750 --> 00:38:40,421

Marc Preston: relationship, more people are seeking

Speaker:1006

38:40 ,501 --> 00:38:42,205

Marc Preston: healthier relationships and they're a

Speaker:1007

38:42 ,246 --> 00:38:44,872

Marc Preston: longer term or something to that effect.

Speaker:1008

38:45 ,300 --> 00:38:47,228

Marc Preston: You know you just it's Carpe Diem.

Speaker:1009

38:47 ,340 --> 00:38:48,727

Fred Melamed: You still have to enjoy the day in some

Speaker:1010

38:48 ,748 --> 00:38:50,779

Fred Melamed: shape, former fashion and well, certainly,

Speaker:1011

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Fred Melamed: but I do think that I think that the

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Fred Melamed: challenges of the last few years have not

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Fred Melamed: been good for the marriage Marcet.

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Fred Melamed: When I had to at the end of the beginning

Speaker:1015

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Fred Melamed: of 2021, i had to find a divorce attorney,

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Fred Melamed: so I got myself a very good woman divorce

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Fred Melamed: attorney And when I first decided to hire

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Fred Melamed: her, she said just so, you know, you're our

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Fred Melamed: last case.

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Fred Melamed: We have books full for like five years

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Fred Melamed: ahead.

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Fred Melamed: There have been so many divorces since the

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Fred Melamed: lock the COVID lockdown that we literally

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39:22 ,660 --> 00:39:23,986

Fred Melamed: can't take any more people.

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Marc Preston: That is, you know, but I feel for you, you

Speaker:1026

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Marc Preston: know, much love too, because I know that,

Speaker:1027

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Marc Preston: no matter how you carve it up, it's, it's

Speaker:1028

39:30 ,526 --> 00:39:31,781

Marc Preston: an odyssey, but you know you come.

Speaker:1029

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Marc Preston: you always come out on the back end

Speaker:1030

39:34 ,228 --> 00:39:35,741

Marc Preston: learning more about yourself, and I think

Speaker:1031

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Marc Preston: that's that's the way I've tried to look at

Speaker:1032

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Marc Preston: things.

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Marc Preston: you know, you know that's actually a

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Marc Preston: question.

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Marc Preston: you were, you know you had a family, i

Speaker:1036

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Marc Preston: believe.

Speaker:1037

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Marc Preston: if I read something, or maybe you heard you

Speaker:1038

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Marc Preston: at one point in time, your sons, they were

Speaker:1039

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Marc Preston: on the spectrum.

Speaker:1040

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Marc Preston: Am I, am I correct in saying that?

Speaker:1041

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Marc Preston: And you've been a big advocate for that?

Speaker:1042

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Fred Melamed: Yes, Yes, that's a that was a big, big part

Speaker:1043

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Fred Melamed: of of my life and our lives together.

Speaker:1044

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Fred Melamed: I have twin sons that are will be 20 this

Speaker:1045

39:59 ,488 --> 00:40:02,788

Fred Melamed: year, one of whom has quite severe autism.

Speaker:1046

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Fred Melamed: The other was was diagnosed with autism

Speaker:1047

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Fred Melamed: when he was younger, when he was quite

Speaker:1048

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Fred Melamed: young, but functionally it hardly affects

Speaker:1049

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Fred Melamed: him at all in any discernible way anymore

Speaker:1050

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Fred Melamed: And he's very, very high achiever and also

Speaker:1051

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Fred Melamed: very personable, very smart.

Speaker:1052

40:18 ,732 --> 00:40:20,205

Fred Melamed: You know he really is doing great.

Speaker:1053

40:20 ,900 --> 00:40:23,727

Fred Melamed: So we had both ends of the spectrum in our

Speaker:1054

40:23 ,948 --> 00:40:24,630

Fred Melamed: in our family.

Speaker:1055

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Fred Melamed: So that's, you know, that was a major

Speaker:1056

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Fred Melamed: factor in my, in me and my wife's life and

Speaker:1057

40:31 ,633 --> 00:40:33,285

Fred Melamed: decisions about where to live and all that

Speaker:1058

40:33 ,345 --> 00:40:35,222

Fred Melamed: stuff, and so we.

Speaker:1059

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Marc Preston: so you were living somewhere where you had

Speaker:1060

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Marc Preston: great resources for the, for the, for your,

Speaker:1061

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Marc Preston: son?

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Fred Melamed: No, as a matter of no, we did not.

Speaker:1063

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Fred Melamed: What happened was we were living in

Speaker:1064

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Fred Melamed: Manhattan, in New York city, and we had a

Speaker:1065

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Fred Melamed: country house.

Speaker:1066

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Fred Melamed: This is in the in the glory days of my my

Speaker:1067

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Fred Melamed: glory days of voiceover business, when I

Speaker:1068

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Fred Melamed: was the voice of CBS Sports.

Speaker:1069

40:53 ,203 --> 00:40:56,290

Fred Melamed: I was the person who said the NFL on CBS,

Speaker:1070

40:56 ,430 --> 00:40:57,092

Fred Melamed: that guy.

Speaker:1071

40:57 ,620 --> 00:40:59,525

Fred Melamed: So I had that job, that unbelievably good

Speaker:1072

40:59 ,565 --> 00:41:03,882

Fred Melamed: job, for about seven years I think, and I

Speaker:1073

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Fred Melamed: bought a house, a really nice house, out in

Speaker:1074

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Fred Melamed: Montauk, in the Hamptons, in the east end

Speaker:1075

41:08 ,121 --> 00:41:10,620

Fred Melamed: of on the east end of Long Island, and we

Speaker:1076

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Fred Melamed: had that as a country house and we had our,

Speaker:1077

41:12 ,785 --> 00:41:14,770

Fred Melamed: our, our apartment in Manhattan.

Speaker:1078

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Fred Melamed: We'd go back and forth And I built a little.

Speaker:1079

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Fred Melamed: By this time people were building home

Speaker:1080

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Fred Melamed: studios, so I built a little studio into

Speaker:1081

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Fred Melamed: the house.

Speaker:1082

41:20 ,980 --> 00:41:22,584

Fred Melamed: I had a studio both in New York and in the

Speaker:1083

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Fred Melamed: house in in Hamptons, and when our kids

Speaker:1084

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Fred Melamed: were diagnosed which was 2000, the

Speaker:1085

41:29 ,449 --> 00:41:34,360

Fred Melamed: beginning of 2004, there was such an

Speaker:1086

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Fred Melamed: avalanche of cases of autism in New York

Speaker:1087

41:36 ,566 --> 00:41:39,172

Fred Melamed: city that even though we were entitled to

Speaker:1088

41:39 ,200 --> 00:41:41,326

Fred Melamed: be able to get services for them, you

Speaker:1089

41:41 ,366 --> 00:41:42,008

Fred Melamed: couldn't get them.

Speaker:1090

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Marc Preston: Really.

Speaker:1091

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Fred Melamed: Um, there were just not enough people, Yeah,

Speaker:1092

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Fred Melamed: So, uh, we couldn't.

Speaker:1093

41:48 ,065 --> 00:41:50,029

Fred Melamed: we were told to get one particular form of

Speaker:1094

41:50 ,070 --> 00:41:52,223

Fred Melamed: therapy called ABA therapy, a behaviorally

Speaker:1095

41:52 ,283 --> 00:41:52,986

Fred Melamed: oriented therapy.

Speaker:1096

41:53 ,488 --> 00:41:55,517

Fred Melamed: that was the only one that was shown to

Speaker:1097

41:55 ,577 --> 00:41:58,506

Fred Melamed: really have, you know, significant positive

Speaker:1098

41:58 ,707 --> 00:41:59,108

Fred Melamed: effects.

Speaker:1099

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Fred Melamed: But there weren't therapists available

Speaker:1100

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Fred Melamed: because in New York there were so many

Speaker:1101

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Fred Melamed: cases of autism.

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Marc Preston: I'd be so frustrating where you're, you're,

Speaker:1103

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Marc Preston: you know you're sitting there.

Speaker:1104

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Marc Preston: You know I'm an actor.

Speaker:1105

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Marc Preston: What am I?

Speaker:1106

42:09 ,186 --> 00:42:09,649

Marc Preston: you know you're?

Speaker:1107

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Marc Preston: you want somebody's professional to be able

Speaker:1108

42:11 ,620 --> 00:42:12,885

Marc Preston: to guide you on what to do.

Speaker:1109

42:13 ,647 --> 00:42:15,106

Fred Melamed: Right, and also for them to have a certain

Speaker:1110

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Fred Melamed: number of hours of therapy.

Speaker:1111

42:16 ,414 --> 00:42:18,002

Fred Melamed: because we were told, you must get this and

Speaker:1112

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Fred Melamed: it's absolutely of of of prime importance

Speaker:1113

42:20 ,248 --> 00:42:21,010

Fred Melamed: that you get it quickly.

Speaker:1114

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Fred Melamed: So we had this other house out on Long

Speaker:1115

42:24 ,105 --> 00:42:26,331

Fred Melamed: Island and there, in that county, which was

Speaker:1116

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Fred Melamed: a different county, suffolk County uh, the

Speaker:1117

42:29 ,246 --> 00:42:30,309

Fred Melamed: services were available.

Speaker:1118

42:31 ,460 --> 00:42:34,389

Fred Melamed: So we moved full time out to that other

Speaker:1119

42:34 ,449 --> 00:42:37,839

Fred Melamed: house and raised our children there, uh,

Speaker:1120

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Fred Melamed: for the first 10 years of their lives.

Speaker:1121

42:40 ,330 --> 00:42:42,218

Fred Melamed: um, precisely because we found a school out

Speaker:1122

42:42 ,238 --> 00:42:45,061

Fred Melamed: there that was great for both of them, uh,

Speaker:1123

42:45 ,202 --> 00:42:47,347

Fred Melamed: it, it served both kids that had

Speaker:1124

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Fred Melamed: developmental disabilities and also kids

Speaker:1125

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Fred Melamed: that were on the sort of genius scale.

Speaker:1126

42:51 ,820 --> 00:42:54,126

Fred Melamed: So both of our, both of our ends, were

Speaker:1127

42:54 ,166 --> 00:42:55,350

Fred Melamed: covered by that school and they did

Speaker:1128

42:55 ,390 --> 00:42:56,882

Fred Melamed: wonderfully well there, but it only went,

Speaker:1129

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Fred Melamed: uh, as far as fifth grade, so, which

Speaker:1130

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Fred Melamed: prompted our move to California.

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Marc Preston: I had a good friend who, who?

Speaker:1132

43:03 ,625 --> 00:43:05,089

Marc Preston: or I have a good friend whose uh son of

Speaker:1133

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Marc Preston: guy's son's almost 30 now, uh, but when he

Speaker:1134

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Marc Preston: was younger, one of the things that I

Speaker:1135

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Marc Preston: remember her telling me that they wanted uh

Speaker:1136

43:11 ,843 --> 00:43:13,628

Marc Preston: the people in the know had her do was have

Speaker:1137

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Marc Preston: him watch older, uh, sit family, sit comp

Speaker:1138

43:17 ,186 --> 00:43:17,648

Marc Preston: family.

Speaker:1139

43:18 ,240 --> 00:43:20,066

Marc Preston: I don't know where you could see families

Speaker:1140

43:20 ,146 --> 00:43:21,370

Marc Preston: modeling behavior.

Speaker:1141

43:21 ,560 --> 00:43:23,585

Marc Preston: So that was a big thing for the, for the

Speaker:1142

43:23 ,625 --> 00:43:25,910

Marc Preston: children, for him, for him to see is what

Speaker:1143

43:25 ,930 --> 00:43:27,273

Marc Preston: are kind of a traditional family.

Speaker:1144

43:27 ,320 --> 00:43:29,725

Marc Preston: You know it's uh, it's it's different

Speaker:1145

43:29 ,745 --> 00:43:32,972

Marc Preston: challenges, but you know it's um, you know

Speaker:1146

43:33 ,012 --> 00:43:33,781

Marc Preston: I know different people.

Speaker:1147

43:33 ,821 --> 00:43:35,067

Marc Preston: As they say it's it's a spectrum.

Speaker:1148

43:35 ,220 --> 00:43:37,088

Marc Preston: So people like even in your own home you

Speaker:1149

43:37 ,128 --> 00:43:39,338

Marc Preston: had a spectrum of experiences, most

Speaker:1150

43:39 ,378 --> 00:43:40,983

Marc Preston: certainly is, but are some of it?

Speaker:1151

43:41 ,003 --> 00:43:42,487

Marc Preston: you said they're doing the college thing or

Speaker:1152

43:42 ,507 --> 00:43:44,292

Marc Preston: are they going for advanced education right

Speaker:1153

43:44 ,312 --> 00:43:44,432

Marc Preston: now?

Speaker:1154

43:44 ,660 --> 00:43:46,605

Fred Melamed: Well, one of them, uh, goes to Chapman

Speaker:1155

43:46 ,685 --> 00:43:48,549

Fred Melamed: University here in California and he's

Speaker:1156

43:48 ,590 --> 00:43:51,707

Fred Melamed: studying psychology, uh and and acting both.

Speaker:1157

43:51 ,820 --> 00:43:52,582

Fred Melamed: He's been in a couple of movies.

Speaker:1158

43:52 ,602 --> 00:43:54,107

Fred Melamed: He's quite a good actor, but he decided he

Speaker:1159

43:54 ,147 --> 00:43:55,210

Fred Melamed: wants to be a psychologist.

Speaker:1160

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Marc Preston: He'll be working with some actors.

Speaker:1161

43:58 ,901 --> 00:44:00,343

Fred Melamed: I think he wanted to work with mentally ill

Speaker:1162

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Fred Melamed: people because it was a healthier

Speaker:1163

44:01 ,364 --> 00:44:01,965

Fred Melamed: population.

Speaker:1164

44:11 ,661 --> 00:44:13,385

Fred Melamed: He's doing great and my other son the one

Speaker:1165

44:13 ,425 --> 00:44:15,410

Fred Melamed: who has autism is you know as much more

Speaker:1166

44:15 ,490 --> 00:44:18,781

Fred Melamed: serious goes to a special school strictly

Speaker:1167

44:18 ,841 --> 00:44:21,410

Fred Melamed: four people with autism and he graduated

Speaker:1168

44:21 ,430 --> 00:44:22,813

Fred Melamed: high school but now he's in kind of like

Speaker:1169

44:23 ,535 --> 00:44:26,141

Fred Melamed: post high school kind of vocational

Speaker:1170

44:26 ,181 --> 00:44:27,633

Fred Melamed: training, although he doesn't actually get

Speaker:1171

44:27 ,774 --> 00:44:31,067

Fred Melamed: too much vocation job preparation because I

Speaker:1172

44:31 ,107 --> 00:44:32,571

Fred Melamed: don't, he probably will not be able to

Speaker:1173

44:32 ,672 --> 00:44:35,758

Fred Melamed: handle a regular job, but he gets schooling

Speaker:1174

44:35 ,979 --> 00:44:38,311

Fred Melamed: in life skills, self-help, that kind of

Speaker:1175

44:38 ,331 --> 00:44:40,798

Fred Melamed: stuff, and he can continue there, i think,

Speaker:1176

44:40 ,838 --> 00:44:41,661

Fred Melamed: until he's 22.

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Marc Preston: You have a family member who went through

Speaker:1178

44:43 ,796 --> 00:44:44,558

Marc Preston: something like that.

Speaker:1179

44:46 ,010 --> 00:44:47,755

Marc Preston: They've learned, you know the skills just

Speaker:1180

44:48 ,056 --> 00:44:49,901

Marc Preston: interpersonal skills and like things like

Speaker:1181

44:49 ,941 --> 00:44:51,875

Marc Preston: that and I know those programs really can

Speaker:1182

44:51 ,895 --> 00:44:53,620

Marc Preston: work wonders because she feels great

Speaker:1183

44:53 ,660 --> 00:44:55,153

Marc Preston: satisfaction with what she does.

Speaker:1184

44:57 ,130 --> 00:44:57,913

Marc Preston: Just a real quick question.

Speaker:1185

44:58 ,033 --> 00:44:59,558

Marc Preston: One last question about kind of the origin

Speaker:1186

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Marc Preston: stories.

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Marc Preston: So now you grew up, is your family more on

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Marc Preston: the?

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45:02 ,862 --> 00:45:05,312

Marc Preston: were they more orthodox maybe to the reform

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Marc Preston: side of things?

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Marc Preston: growing up in New?

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Fred Melamed: York City.

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45:08 ,472 --> 00:45:09,858

Fred Melamed: They completely made fun of it.

Speaker:1194

45:09 ,930 --> 00:45:11,154

Fred Melamed: They thought it was a lot of hooey.

Speaker:1195

45:13 ,510 --> 00:45:16,876

Fred Melamed: My parents were old enough to have grown up

Speaker:1196

45:16 ,896 --> 00:45:20,864

Fred Melamed: in the Depression and they were, you know,

Speaker:1197

45:21 ,030 --> 00:45:23,477

Fred Melamed: lefties from the Depression era and then

Speaker:1198

45:24 ,099 --> 00:45:25,302

Fred Melamed: grownups in World War II.

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Fred Melamed: So they were quite skeptical about religion.

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Fred Melamed: Maybe I'm overstating it, but I mean I had

Speaker:1201

45:33 ,959 --> 00:45:34,721

Fred Melamed: no religious training.

Speaker:1202

45:35 ,071 --> 00:45:38,004

Fred Melamed: I was at the age of 11, which is when you

Speaker:1203

45:38 ,025 --> 00:45:39,210

Fred Melamed: have to start Hebrew school if you're going

Speaker:1204

45:39 ,230 --> 00:45:40,052

Fred Melamed: to get Bar Mitzvah.

Speaker:1205

45:40 ,272 --> 00:45:44,500

Fred Melamed: Usually I was asked do I want to have

Speaker:1206

45:44 ,560 --> 00:45:46,264

Fred Melamed: another day of school a week?

Speaker:1207

45:46 ,410 --> 00:45:49,419

Fred Melamed: and Jesus five was more than I could handle

Speaker:1208

45:49 ,459 --> 00:45:49,720

Fred Melamed: anyway.

Speaker:1209

45:50 ,210 --> 00:45:51,175

Fred Melamed: So I said no, i didn't.

Speaker:1210

45:51 ,290 --> 00:45:52,673

Fred Melamed: So I was never Bar Mitzvah, never had any

Speaker:1211

45:52 ,754 --> 00:45:54,458

Fred Melamed: religious education at all.

Speaker:1212

45:56 ,290 --> 00:46:01,400

Fred Melamed: And I remember once asking my mother is God

Speaker:1213

46:01 ,480 --> 00:46:01,741

Fred Melamed: real?

Speaker:1214

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Fred Melamed: And she said if you think God is real, then

Speaker:1215

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Fred Melamed: God is real.

Speaker:1216

46:07 ,450 --> 00:46:09,237

Fred Melamed: If you don't think God is real, then God is

Speaker:1217

46:09 ,277 --> 00:46:09,538

Fred Melamed: not real.

Speaker:1218

46:09 ,890 --> 00:46:12,178

Fred Melamed: At the time I think I misunderstood.

Speaker:1219

46:12 ,310 --> 00:46:14,018

Fred Melamed: I think I thought I thought what she meant

Speaker:1220

46:14 ,079 --> 00:46:16,169

Fred Melamed: then was that God is just something in

Speaker:1221

46:16 ,209 --> 00:46:16,912

Fred Melamed: people's heads.

Speaker:1222

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Fred Melamed: But what I later came to feel about it was

Speaker:1223

46:22 ,299 --> 00:46:24,664

Fred Melamed: what she was saying was it doesn't matter

Speaker:1224

46:25 ,211 --> 00:46:27,777

Fred Melamed: if God actually is real, if there is a kind

Speaker:1225

46:27 ,817 --> 00:46:30,023

Fred Melamed: of God, if you don't think there is a kind

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46:30 ,090 --> 00:46:31,656

Fred Melamed: of God, then God's existence won't matter

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46:31 ,737 --> 00:46:32,018

Fred Melamed: anyway.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's so funny.

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46:33 ,470 --> 00:46:35,957

Marc Preston: I look at it as more of a cultural thing

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Marc Preston: for my family.

Speaker:1231

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Marc Preston: Even my great-grandfather came over from

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Marc Preston: Odessa, ukraine.

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Marc Preston: A lot of the people there were very learned,

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Marc Preston: very intelligent.

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Marc Preston: They were not skeptical.

Speaker:1236

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Marc Preston: They knew the Torah backwards and forwards

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Marc Preston: and everything, but they looked at it as

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Marc Preston: it's their culture.

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Marc Preston: That's why they're learning it.

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Marc Preston: It's not that they're taking you to some

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Marc Preston: you have to do this thing, but they were

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Marc Preston: very.

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Marc Preston: A lot of them were more surprisingly, more

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Marc Preston: even than the agnostic realm, if you will.

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Marc Preston: But the culture, of course, it was there.

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Marc Preston: The food.

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Fred Melamed: The culture.

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Fred Melamed: I was well-uncoocated with The culture.

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Fred Melamed: I don't mean the religious elements of the

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Fred Melamed: culture, but Yiddishism's in my behavior, a

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Fred Melamed: kind of Jewish.

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Fred Melamed: I was once asked what to you is Jewish?

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Fred Melamed: The way I answered that was that to me, not

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Fred Melamed: being able to be quiet about everything in

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Fred Melamed: life that's ridiculous or unfair is Jewish.

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Fred Melamed: Not being able to keep your mouth shut is

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Fred Melamed: what I think of as Jewish.

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Fred Melamed: And having to react to all that is unfair,

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Fred Melamed: difficult, painful in life vociferously,

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Fred Melamed: that seems Jewish to me.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, one thing I miss about being my age

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Marc Preston: is all the.

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Marc Preston: I mean, most of the elder folks are passing

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Marc Preston: on or have passed on and I used to love as

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Marc Preston: a kid being at a bar mitzvah or a wedding

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Marc Preston: or something and some of the old guys be

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Marc Preston: sitting around just chewing the fat with

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Marc Preston: each other and just listening to, like my

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Marc Preston: people, my grandfather's age that anything

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Marc Preston: that lacked common sense drove them nuts.

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Marc Preston: They kind of tore into each other.

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Marc Preston: I remember one thing my grandfather liked

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Marc Preston: the real close shave and I remember his

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Marc Preston: friends, somebody in famous like Harry.

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Marc Preston: But how long does a close shave last?

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Marc Preston: Why are you so worried about a close shave

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Marc Preston: at last?

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Marc Preston: Because the arguments these older Jewish

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Marc Preston: guys would have warmed my heart.

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Marc Preston: That's all I'm saying In tech.

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Marc Preston: My family immigrated through Galveston,

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Marc Preston: texas.

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Marc Preston: A lot of people did.

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Marc Preston: They come along the coast.

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Marc Preston: Galveston, new Orleans, you know, so you

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Marc Preston: run up in New York had to be readily

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Marc Preston: available bagels.

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Marc Preston: It had to have been really nice, you know.

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Fred Melamed: Yes, there was all that stuff There was.

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Fred Melamed: I grew up thinking most people must be

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Fred Melamed: Jewish, because most people that I knew

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Fred Melamed: were Jewish, so I assumed that was the case.

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Fred Melamed: I went to a special school.

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Fred Melamed: I went to a sort of genius school called

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Fred Melamed: Hunter College Elementary School a model

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Fred Melamed: school for gifted children, and two-thirds

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Fred Melamed: of the people there were Jewish.

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Fred Melamed: So I said, well, most people must be Jewish.

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Fred Melamed: I learned, i think, in my second year of

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Fred Melamed: college, that no, it didn't take me that

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Fred Melamed: long that most people were not Jewish.

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Fred Melamed: But I, you know, strong feelings is what I

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Fred Melamed: think about Judaism.

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Fred Melamed: That's my real association with it.

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Marc Preston: That's a wonderful articulation.

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Marc Preston: I think that's perfect.

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Fred Melamed: Yeah, Who was it?

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Fred Melamed: Oh God, what's her name?

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Fred Melamed: She was a famous wit from the Algonquin

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Fred Melamed: Roundtable.

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Fred Melamed: I can't think of her name.

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Fred Melamed: One of your listeners will know, Oh God.

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Fred Melamed: Anyway, she was half Jewish And this was in

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Fred Melamed: the 20s, when the Jews were a relatively

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Fred Melamed: smaller part of the Jewish community, The

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Fred Melamed: makeup of the New York intelligentsia.

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Fred Melamed: And she was asked what are Jews actually

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Fred Melamed: like?

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Fred Melamed: And she said Jews are just like everybody

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Fred Melamed: else, only more so.

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Marc Preston: That's exactly the truth.

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Marc Preston: You know, whenever that phrase people use

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Marc Preston: now the kids use a lot, now going oh, she's

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Marc Preston: a lot.

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Marc Preston: You know that phrase is like what I was

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Marc Preston: like yeah, that's my phrase, or extra.

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Announcer: She's extra.

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Marc Preston: That's what it is.

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Marc Preston: That's my family right there.

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Marc Preston: There's a whole lot of extra.

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Marc Preston: There is a recovery time I need after any

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Marc Preston: kind of family get together, But that you

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Marc Preston: know to go back.

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Marc Preston: You're mentioning something in the way you

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Marc Preston: grew up, Do you think?

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Marc Preston: I think we maybe had similarities in the

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Marc Preston: way we grew up And I think it kind of

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Marc Preston: breeds a people pleaser muscle.

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Marc Preston: It gets, start, starts building in you, And

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Marc Preston: I find that all the actors I know, the ones

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Marc Preston: I speak with, the ones I chat with here I

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Marc Preston: think that a lot of people go into

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Marc Preston: entertainment have that people pleaser

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Marc Preston: muscle pretty well developed And I don't

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Marc Preston: know what came first chicken or the egg, I

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Marc Preston: don't know But there are a lot of people in

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Marc Preston: this business that do put, sometimes

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Marc Preston: inordinately so, a lot of stock in what

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Marc Preston: other people think.

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Marc Preston: Do you notice that as well, or do you

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Marc Preston: concur?

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Fred Melamed: Yes, I do think that's endemic to our

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Fred Melamed: profession.

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Fred Melamed: I mean, think about it.

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Fred Melamed: You have to have people, strangers make you

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Fred Melamed: feel that you're okay.

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Fred Melamed: Right, they're all strangers in the

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Fred Melamed: audience.

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Fred Melamed: I mean, i don't think everybody has that,

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Fred Melamed: but I do think it's a common trait among

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Fred Melamed: people that are drawn to this profession.

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Fred Melamed: I also think that it's a noble profession.

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Fred Melamed: I think examining life in an artistic

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Fred Melamed: milieu is a worthwhile pursuit and it's not

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Fred Melamed: easy as well, you know.

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Fred Melamed: So I think both, in some ways it's very

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Fred Melamed: silly, and I think there's a lot of vanity

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Fred Melamed: and other foibles that come to my attention

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Fred Melamed: frequently, both my own and other people's.

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Fred Melamed: But I also think that it's beautiful that

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Fred Melamed: people do it, because it's not easy and

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Fred Melamed: it's.

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Fred Melamed: You know, when you see a great work of art

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Fred Melamed: of any kind, you go yeah, that's so true

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Fred Melamed: about something or other in life.

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Fred Melamed: To me there's a test, a three-prong test,

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Fred Melamed: to establish whether there's greatness in a

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Fred Melamed: work of art.

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Fred Melamed: Thing one is that it has to be true.

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Fred Melamed: You have to look at it and go, oh, that's

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Fred Melamed: really true.

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Fred Melamed: Thing two is it has to be surprising.

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Fred Melamed: Even though it's true, it has to be

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Fred Melamed: something that you haven't really thought

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Fred Melamed: of or seen in that way before.

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Fred Melamed: And thing three is that even though it

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Fred Melamed: surprises you, it has to have its own

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Fred Melamed: internal logic.

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Fred Melamed: It can't be quirky for the sake of being

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Fred Melamed: quirky.

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Fred Melamed: It has to have.

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Fred Melamed: There has to be something innately right

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Fred Melamed: about it, even though it has surprised you.

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Fred Melamed: So any great work to me has those kind of

Speaker:1395

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Fred Melamed: three simultaneous qualities.

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Fred Melamed: I love that.

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Marc Preston: That kind of leads to why something may

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Marc Preston: stick with you when you watch a great

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Marc Preston: performance.

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Marc Preston: And my daughter and I were watching.

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Marc Preston: Going back to Sam Rockwell, there was a

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Marc Preston: film he was in Steve Carell was in it as

Speaker:1403

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Marc Preston: well The Way, Way Back, And basically it's

Speaker:1404

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Marc Preston: really about a kid whose mother is dating

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Marc Preston: Steve Carell.

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Marc Preston: It's kind of a coming of age kind of a

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Marc Preston: thing And I looked at it as like and one

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Marc Preston: thing I loved is any kid that grows up and

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Marc Preston: things are a little tumultuous at that age.

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Marc Preston: You're kind of looking for a mentor or

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Marc Preston: someone that is quirky and off-center, as

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Marc Preston: they happen to be.

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Marc Preston: They kind of give you kind of a beacon or a

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Marc Preston: north star to follow, And he was this

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Marc Preston: really great character.

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Marc Preston: It kind of invigorated this kid, got the

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Marc Preston: kid come out of his shell.

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Marc Preston: I'm going that's the character he played.

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Marc Preston: I was like that's when I was that age who I

Speaker:1420

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Marc Preston: wish I would have met somebody with that.

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Marc Preston: So the truth in that, I think that's the

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Marc Preston: other side.

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Marc Preston: I think great performance It resonates with

Speaker:1424

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Marc Preston: different people in different ways, But

Speaker:1425

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Marc Preston: they all love it for a different thing.

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Marc Preston: Like you said, the Godfather, Some people

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Marc Preston: are just like the aesthetic of it or just

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Marc Preston: the way you feel watching it, And some

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Marc Preston: people are really into the dialogue, but

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Marc Preston: they all you know, you all appreciate it.

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Marc Preston: Talking about the quirkiness of the people

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Marc Preston: in our industry and going, excuse me, into

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Marc Preston: reboot.

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Marc Preston: I know the general premise of it, but could

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Marc Preston: you explain what is reboot exactly?

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Marc Preston: Because this has a great cast and I kind of

Speaker:1437

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Marc Preston: want to know what we're going to expect and

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Marc Preston: checking it out.

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Fred Melamed: The idea is that there was a show that was

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Fred Melamed: popular in the early aughts kind of a la

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Fred Melamed: friends kind of show that you know, a show

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Fred Melamed: with a large cast And it's successful for

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Fred Melamed: quite a long time and then it goes off the

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Fred Melamed: air And then Hulu tries to get all these

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Fred Melamed: people back together to relaunch the show

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Fred Melamed: And of course, many years have elapsed and

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Fred Melamed: some of them had affairs with each other,

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Fred Melamed: some of them can't stand each other.

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Fred Melamed: You know there's all these different forces

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Fred Melamed: at work with these people that have known

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Fred Melamed: each other for this length of time.

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Fred Melamed: So they try and remount the show.

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Fred Melamed: That's what that show is all about.

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54:44 TV Show With a Great Cast (91 Seconds)

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Fred Melamed: It has a wonderful cast.

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Fred Melamed: Paul Reiser is in it, judy Greer, rachel

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Fred Melamed: Bloom, keegan-michael Key lots of really

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Fred Melamed: good people, rose Abdu many, many friends

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Fred Melamed: of mine.

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Marc Preston: And Paul Reiser, by the way.

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Marc Preston: what a great guy to see showing up more and

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Marc Preston: more.

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Marc Preston: God, he was on something I think it was

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Marc Preston: called Red.

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Marc Preston: it was an, i think an Amazon show Red Oaks

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Marc Preston: or something.

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Marc Preston: Oh God, i should have looked this up, but

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Marc Preston: Oh, i know what you mean.

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Fred Melamed: Oh, gosh, jennifer Gray was on it.

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Marc Preston: I can't remember the name of it, but I know.

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Fred Melamed: Yes, i know the show you're talking about.

Speaker:1471

55:19 ,271 --> 00:55:20,435

Fred Melamed: I can't remember the name of it, but yes,

Speaker:1472

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Fred Melamed: he does a lot of stuff.

Speaker:1473

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Fred Melamed: Now I've known him for a while.

Speaker:1474

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Fred Melamed: He's a great guy.

Speaker:1475

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Fred Melamed: I really enjoy him.

Speaker:1476

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Fred Melamed: He plays on the show.

Speaker:1477

55:27 ,470 --> 00:55:30,276

Fred Melamed: One of the conceits of the show is that

Speaker:1478

55:30 ,657 --> 00:55:32,862

Fred Melamed: they hire two generations of writers.

Speaker:1479

55:33 ,830 --> 00:55:36,861

Fred Melamed: There's an older generation, and I'm one of

Speaker:1480

55:36 ,901 --> 00:55:38,407

Fred Melamed: those older generation of writers And then

Speaker:1481

55:38 ,447 --> 00:55:39,290

Fred Melamed: there's a younger generation.

Speaker:1482

55:39 ,330 --> 00:55:41,616

Fred Melamed: They hire three very young writers, kind of

Speaker:1483

55:41 ,676 --> 00:55:44,312

Fred Melamed: just out of school writers, and we don't.

Speaker:1484

55:44 ,754 --> 00:55:47,164

Fred Melamed: We come from entirely different realities

Speaker:1485

55:47 ,626 --> 00:55:48,991

Fred Melamed: and kind of don't understand each other at

Speaker:1486

55:49 ,031 --> 00:55:49,151

Fred Melamed: all.

Speaker:1487

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Fred Melamed: But the network wants to keep the show

Speaker:1488

55:51 ,898 --> 00:55:54,632

Fred Melamed: current, even though it features a somewhat

Speaker:1489

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Fred Melamed: older cast.

Speaker:1490

55:56 ,130 --> 00:56:01,269

Fred Melamed: So Paul Reiser plays the sort of head of

Speaker:1491

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Fred Melamed: the older writers And so I get to do a lot

Speaker:1492

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Fred Melamed: with him.

Speaker:1493

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Fred Melamed: So you know, for me that was I've known him

Speaker:1494

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Fred Melamed: for a while Very enjoyable for me to work

Speaker:1495

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Fred Melamed: with him.

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Marc Preston: I mean the cast, i mean it looks like so

Speaker:1497

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Marc Preston: much fun to watch.

Speaker:1498

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Marc Preston: And I know again WandaVision for my son.

Speaker:1499

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Marc Preston: We had such One thing I loved about that

Speaker:1500

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Marc Preston: show.

Speaker:1501

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Marc Preston: It was I don't have any real background

Speaker:1502

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Marc Preston: with the Marvel thing.

Speaker:1503

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Marc Preston: I had zero idea where that show was going,

Speaker:1504

56:25 ,151 --> 00:56:25,894

Marc Preston: none whatsoever.

Speaker:1505

56:26 ,325 --> 00:56:28,871

Marc Preston: So having It was kind of nice to see,

Speaker:1506

56:29 ,593 --> 00:56:33,553

Marc Preston: almost in a Kind of like you know, i love

Speaker:1507

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Marc Preston: Lucy-ish kind of that era of TV And have

Speaker:1508

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Marc Preston: you show up black and white.

Speaker:1509

56:37 ,526 --> 00:56:38,850

Marc Preston: It's like this is I just want to keep

Speaker:1510

56:38 ,890 --> 00:56:39,171

Marc Preston: watching.

Speaker:1511

56:39 ,191 --> 00:56:40,235

Marc Preston: This is so cool, you know.

Speaker:1512

56:41 ,168 --> 00:56:42,974

Marc Preston: And then the show evolved into what it was.

Speaker:1513

56:43 ,325 --> 00:56:45,412

Marc Preston: But it's, i know that whole Marvel Universe

Speaker:1514

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Marc Preston: thing is a.

Speaker:1515

56:47 ,012 --> 00:56:48,305

Marc Preston: You know, you've now got your stripes.

Speaker:1516

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Marc Preston: You're officially in the Marvel Universe.

Speaker:1517

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Fred Melamed: Yes, And I have to say I admire Kevin Feige.

Speaker:1518

56:55 ,968 --> 00:56:57,032

Fred Melamed: You know that was a risky.

Speaker:1519

56:58 ,168 --> 00:57:02,144

Fred Melamed: You know Marvel has its own very loyal fan

Speaker:1520

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Fred Melamed: base And to do something kind of that kind

Speaker:1521

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Fred Melamed: of way out, so risky for that fan base, i

Speaker:1522

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Fred Melamed: admire him doing that And I think My

Speaker:1523

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Fred Melamed: impression was that he succeeded at it.

Speaker:1524

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Fred Melamed: You know, i think he did a really good job

Speaker:1525

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Fred Melamed: with it And you know I'm proud of that show

Speaker:1526

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Fred Melamed: and I like that show.

Speaker:1527

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Marc Preston: Again, i really appreciate you spending

Speaker:1528

57:21 ,071 --> 00:57:22,034

Marc Preston: time with me here.

Speaker:1529

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Marc Preston: I always wrap up all interviews.

Speaker:1530

57:24 ,411 --> 00:57:25,815

Marc Preston: I call my seven questions Just a quick

Speaker:1531

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Marc Preston: seven.

Speaker:1532

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Marc Preston: Kind of It's a little fun to get to know

Speaker:1533

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Marc Preston: you, kind of in addition to what we've been

Speaker:1534

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Marc Preston: doing.

Speaker:1535

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Marc Preston: But I always ask the first question in.

Speaker:1536

57:32 ,666 --> 00:57:34,526

Marc Preston: I'm a food guy so I always ask it is what

Speaker:1537

57:34 ,646 --> 00:57:37,193

Marc Preston: is your favorite comfort food?

Speaker:1538

57:37 ,454 --> 00:57:39,510

Marc Preston: That thing that just You maybe had a bad

Speaker:1539

57:39 ,530 --> 00:57:40,293

Marc Preston: day or an amazing day.

Speaker:1540

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Marc Preston: You've got to sit down and have some of it.

Speaker:1541

57:42 ,325 --> 00:57:42,907

Fred Melamed: I'll tell you the truth.

Speaker:1542

57:42 ,968 --> 00:57:44,012

Fred Melamed: You know I have a.

Speaker:1543

57:44 ,807 --> 00:57:46,616

Fred Melamed: I've been eating too much and had a problem

Speaker:1544

57:46 ,737 --> 00:57:48,245

Fred Melamed: controlling my weight for many, many years,

Speaker:1545

57:48 ,746 --> 00:57:51,014

Fred Melamed: and for the last two and a half years or so,

Speaker:1546

57:51 ,810 --> 00:57:53,042

Fred Melamed: i've been doing not keto but something

Speaker:1547

57:53 ,063 --> 00:57:53,305

Fred Melamed: close to it.

Speaker:1548

57:53 ,948 --> 00:57:57,285

Fred Melamed: So I don't eat bread, potatoes, pasta.

Speaker:1549

57:58 ,174 --> 00:58:01,094

Fred Melamed: I haven't eaten sugar in 17 years, so a lot

Speaker:1550

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Fred Melamed: of the things that I would say are my real

Speaker:1551

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Fred Melamed: comfort favorite foods I have no longer eat.

Speaker:1552

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Fred Melamed: But yeah, but in a perfect world, in a

Speaker:1553

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Fred Melamed: world where I didn't have to worry Meaning

Speaker:1554

58:14 ,408 --> 00:58:16,374

Fred Melamed: I didn't have to worry about how fat I was.

Speaker:1555

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Fred Melamed: I like crap.

Speaker:1556

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Announcer: I like to eat.

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Fred Melamed: Doritos with dip.

Speaker:1558

58:24 ,649 --> 00:58:26,153

Fred Melamed: No, i like you know some people like real

Speaker:1559

58:26 ,213 --> 00:58:27,036

Fred Melamed: food, i like junk.

Speaker:1560

58:27 ,648 --> 00:58:29,063

Fred Melamed: I like to eat Doritos with dip.

Speaker:1561

58:30 ,315 --> 00:58:31,224

Fred Melamed: I love brownies.

Speaker:1562

58:32 ,194 --> 00:58:33,143

Fred Melamed: I love Rocky Road ice cream.

Speaker:1563

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Fred Melamed: I'd say my most delightful thing that I

Speaker:1564

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Fred Melamed: could eat, that I can imagine eating, is

Speaker:1565

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Fred Melamed: Rocky Road ice cream with bananas and hot

Speaker:1566

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Fred Melamed: fudge in it.

Speaker:1567

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Marc Preston: Oh my God that does sound good.

Speaker:1568

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Marc Preston: Now I'm curious what's your favorite deli

Speaker:1569

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Marc Preston: item, though?

Speaker:1570

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Marc Preston: Because I got to ask because you know Well,

Speaker:1571

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Marc Preston: do you mean strictly deli?

Speaker:1572

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Marc Preston: Oh like, if you're going to go into deli,

Speaker:1573

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Marc Preston: let's say you're only going to Katz's in

Speaker:1574

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Marc Preston: New York, at Cantor's on Fairfax, what are

Speaker:1575

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Marc Preston: you ordering there?

Speaker:1576

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Marc Preston: Let's say that somebody's given you a pass,

Speaker:1577

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Marc Preston: a massive cheat day.

Speaker:1578

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Fred Melamed: What would you get?

Speaker:1579

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Fred Melamed: Well, because, okay, that's important,

Speaker:1580

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Fred Melamed: because I can't eat rye bread anymore.

Speaker:1581

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Marc Preston: So without rye bread, delis, are you know?

Speaker:1582

59:09 ,546 --> 00:59:11,112

Marc Preston: Yeah, I feel for you on that.

Speaker:1583

59:11 ,325 --> 00:59:14,175

Fred Melamed: So let's say that I don't know.

Speaker:1584

59:15 ,409 --> 00:59:17,094

Fred Melamed: There's an asteroid heading for planet

Speaker:1585

59:17 ,134 --> 00:59:17,275

Fred Melamed: Earth.

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Marc Preston: You would dark on that but okay, if I get

Speaker:1587

59:20 ,875 --> 00:59:22,509

Marc Preston: your deli, then we're going to do that,

Speaker:1588

59:22 ,529 --> 00:59:22,690

Marc Preston: yeah.

Speaker:1589

59:24 ,807 --> 00:59:26,974

Fred Melamed: So in that case, not only are we all going

Speaker:1590

59:26 ,994 --> 00:59:27,988

Fred Melamed: to die, but I could probably get what I

Speaker:1591

59:28 ,048 --> 00:59:29,032

Fred Melamed: wanted in the deli for free.

Speaker:1592

59:29 ,454 --> 00:59:37,809

Fred Melamed: Okay, so I would order a sandwich that is

Speaker:1593

59:38 ,331 --> 00:59:43,706

Fred Melamed: part pastrami, part corned beef, with

Speaker:1594

59:45 ,209 --> 00:59:50,470

Fred Melamed: coleslaw on it, grilled Grilled, failing

Speaker:1595

59:50 ,510 --> 00:59:53,446

Fred Melamed: that, something that's not so deli, but I

Speaker:1596

59:53 ,526 --> 00:59:55,174

Fred Melamed: love grilled cheese with bacon.

Speaker:1597

59:55 ,275 --> 00:59:56,601

Fred Melamed: Also not whole foods food, but I really

Speaker:1598

59:56 ,622 --> 00:59:57,285

Fred Melamed: like grilled cheese with bacon.

Speaker:1599

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Marc Preston: Yeah, i'd say I've.

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Marc Preston: I'm just like I need My daughters my

Speaker:1601

1:00:02 ,629 --> 01:00:03,793

Marc Preston: youngest is just like me We're not.

Speaker:1602

1:00:04 ,325 --> 01:00:06,466

Marc Preston: Pasta shows up on our menu occasionally but

Speaker:1603

1:00:06 ,506 --> 01:00:08,520

Marc Preston: it's like, yeah, pastas, breads, trying to

Speaker:1604

1:00:08 ,540 --> 01:00:09,305

Marc Preston: get away from all that.

Speaker:1605

1:00:09 ,507 --> 01:00:11,907

Marc Preston: But when I am at Cantor's I'm always.

Speaker:1606

1:00:11 ,927 --> 01:00:13,826

Marc Preston: They got that mishmash, matzbal soup,

Speaker:1607

1:00:13 ,866 --> 01:00:15,250

Marc Preston: krapeluch and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker:1608

1:00:15 ,490 --> 01:00:16,673

Marc Preston: Oh, yes, and I always get the.

Speaker:1609

1:00:17 ,195 --> 01:00:21,591

Marc Preston: Nobody ever gets The harder salami sandwich,

Speaker:1610

1:00:21 ,631 --> 01:00:22,973

Marc Preston: the lobster On rye.

Speaker:1611

1:00:23 ,194 --> 01:00:23,534

Fred Melamed: I'm sorry.

Speaker:1612

1:00:23 ,815 --> 01:00:25,538

Fred Melamed: Oh yes, that's good, That's very good.

Speaker:1613

1:00:26 ,305 --> 01:00:27,127

Fred Melamed: I think I see nobody ever orders the

Speaker:1614

1:00:27 ,167 --> 01:00:28,170

Fred Melamed: lobster at Cantor's.

Speaker:1615

1:00:28 ,230 --> 01:00:28,932

Marc Preston: They have lobster.

Speaker:1616

1:00:28 ,952 --> 01:00:30,054

Marc Preston: Yes, that's.

Speaker:1617

1:00:31 ,767 --> 01:00:33,091

Fred Melamed: Dead at the end of the menu.

Speaker:1618

1:00:33 ,352 --> 01:00:34,034

Fred Melamed: Nobody orders it.

Speaker:1619

1:00:34 ,386 --> 01:00:36,103

Marc Preston: Same lobsters in there for 20 years from

Speaker:1620

1:00:36 ,123 --> 01:00:36,285

Marc Preston: the tank.

Speaker:1621

1:00:36 ,385 --> 01:00:39,830

Marc Preston: It's got great hair now, yeah, But yeah,

Speaker:1622

1:00:39 ,991 --> 01:00:40,693

Marc Preston: that's now.

Speaker:1623

1:00:40 ,713 --> 01:00:42,770

Marc Preston: I'm hungry Now, if you're going to sit down,

Speaker:1624

1:00:42 ,790 --> 01:00:43,894

Marc Preston: next question Oh, let me.

Speaker:1625

1:00:44 ,586 --> 01:00:46,213

Fred Melamed: No, i'm sorry to make my answers so long.

Speaker:1626

1:00:46 ,486 --> 01:00:48,292

Fred Melamed: So, given my current thing, the way they

Speaker:1627

1:00:48 ,352 --> 01:00:49,154

Fred Melamed: actually do eat.

Speaker:1628

1:00:49 ,305 --> 01:00:51,250

Fred Melamed: My favorite food to eat is Greek salad.

Speaker:1629

1:00:51 ,491 --> 01:00:52,795

Marc Preston: I love Greek salad Yeah, i like that too.

Speaker:1630

1:00:52 ,835 --> 01:00:53,457

Marc Preston: We do a.

Speaker:1631

1:00:53 ,657 --> 01:00:54,239

Marc Preston: Well, you can't do it.

Speaker:1632

1:00:54 ,279 --> 01:00:56,305

Marc Preston: We do something with like a orzo pasta.

Speaker:1633

1:00:56 ,445 --> 01:00:58,646

Marc Preston: We make a Greek salad like that, but yeah,

Speaker:1634

1:00:58 ,666 --> 01:01:00,012

Marc Preston: again, it's pasta, so you can't do that.

Speaker:1635

1:01:01 ,230 --> 01:01:02,596

Marc Preston: Now, if you are going to, let's say, go to

Speaker:1636

1:01:02 ,737 --> 01:01:03,742

Marc Preston: your favorite coffee place, you're going to

Speaker:1637

1:01:03 ,762 --> 01:01:05,513

Marc Preston: sit down with three people, living or not,

Speaker:1638

1:01:05 ,533 --> 01:01:07,184

Marc Preston: and you're going to talk story for a few

Speaker:1639

1:01:07 ,204 --> 01:01:07,305

Marc Preston: hours.

Speaker:1640

1:01:08 ,174 --> 01:01:09,285

Marc Preston: Who would you like to sit down with?

Speaker:1641

1:01:09 ,948 --> 01:01:10,531

Marc Preston: Three people?

Speaker:1642

1:01:11 ,114 --> 01:01:12,159

Marc Preston: just for great conversation.

Speaker:1643

1:01:12 ,179 --> 01:01:13,204

Marc Preston: Now, when you say talk story.

Speaker:1644

1:01:13 ,972 --> 01:01:16,110

Fred Melamed: Are we living in our conversation to

Speaker:1645

1:01:16 ,171 --> 01:01:17,560

Fred Melamed: strictly things about story?

Speaker:1646

1:01:17 ,681 --> 01:01:18,265

Marc Preston: Oh, no, no, no, no.

Speaker:1647

1:01:18 ,666 --> 01:01:19,728

Marc Preston: I mean kind of like you're just talking

Speaker:1648

1:01:19 ,749 --> 01:01:20,250

Marc Preston: about life.

Speaker:1649

1:01:20 ,310 --> 01:01:21,272

Marc Preston: You're talking about what?

Speaker:1650

1:01:21 ,333 --> 01:01:22,696

Marc Preston: Anybody I could meet Yeah anybody you could

Speaker:1651

1:01:22 ,716 --> 01:01:23,197

Marc Preston: sit down with.

Speaker:1652

1:01:23 ,305 --> 01:01:25,399

Marc Preston: You feel like it would be just a great

Speaker:1653

1:01:25 ,862 --> 01:01:26,224

Marc Preston: conversation.

Speaker:1654

1:01:26 ,305 --> 01:01:28,143

Marc Preston: Three people maybe there's the chemistry of

Speaker:1655

1:01:28 ,164 --> 01:01:30,470

Marc Preston: those everybody being together you think

Speaker:1656

1:01:30 ,651 --> 01:01:32,415

Marc Preston: would be educational and fun.

Speaker:1657

1:01:32 ,576 --> 01:01:35,214

Fred Melamed: Well can they be If they can be disparate.

Speaker:1658

1:01:35 ,275 --> 01:01:36,461

Fred Melamed: entirely different people.

Speaker:1659

1:01:36 ,903 --> 01:01:37,305

Marc Preston: Oh yeah.

Speaker:1660

1:01:37 ,770 --> 01:01:40,875

Fred Melamed: I would say from the modern world, my three

Speaker:1661

1:01:40 ,956 --> 01:01:42,063

Fred Melamed: favorite people that are the most

Speaker:1662

1:01:42 ,084 --> 01:01:44,171

Fred Melamed: interesting and have affected my life the

Speaker:1663

1:01:44 ,231 --> 01:01:44,532

Fred Melamed: most.

Speaker:1664

1:01:45 ,990 --> 01:01:48,265

Fred Melamed: One is an author called Patrick O'Brien.

Speaker:1665

1:01:49 ,292 --> 01:01:50,721

Fred Melamed: Wrote a series of books about the

Speaker:1666

1:01:50 ,741 --> 01:01:53,204

Fred Melamed: Napoleonic Wars, my favorite author of all

Speaker:1667

1:01:53 ,224 --> 01:01:55,204

Fred Melamed: time, my favorite artist of any kind of all

Speaker:1668

1:01:55 ,224 --> 01:01:55,305

Fred Melamed: time.

Speaker:1669

1:01:55 ,727 --> 01:01:56,811

Fred Melamed: Patrick O'Brien was one.

Speaker:1670

1:01:57 ,687 --> 01:01:59,727

Fred Melamed: The other would be Donald Fagan, who I've

Speaker:1671

1:01:59 ,787 --> 01:02:01,807

Fred Melamed: actually met, of Steely Dan, my favorite

Speaker:1672

1:02:02 ,429 --> 01:02:05,891

Fred Melamed: producer and composer and producer of music.

Speaker:1673

1:02:06 ,706 --> 01:02:09,134

Fred Melamed: And the third would probably be Steve Jobs,

Speaker:1674

1:02:10 ,029 --> 01:02:11,737

Fred Melamed: who fascinates me as an individual and

Speaker:1675

1:02:11 ,757 --> 01:02:12,642

Fred Melamed: because of his accomplishments.

Speaker:1676

1:02:12 ,702 --> 01:02:13,305

Fred Melamed: Now, none of these people.

Speaker:1677

1:02:14 ,130 --> 01:02:17,009

Fred Melamed: These are all sticky individuals that are

Speaker:1678

1:02:17 ,109 --> 01:02:20,024

Fred Melamed: not warm and fuzzy or fun to be with for a

Speaker:1679

1:02:20 ,044 --> 01:02:21,932

Fred Melamed: lot of people, but they're all fascinating

Speaker:1680

1:02:21 ,972 --> 01:02:22,172

Fred Melamed: to me.

Speaker:1681

1:02:22 ,807 --> 01:02:24,332

Fred Melamed: If we're allowed to go back further,

Speaker:1682

1:02:28 ,415 --> 01:02:31,165

Fred Melamed: einstein fascinates me, although I don't

Speaker:1683

1:02:31 ,185 --> 01:02:31,265

Fred Melamed: know.

Speaker:1684

1:02:32 ,168 --> 01:02:33,412

Fred Melamed: I wouldn't be able to understand him.

Speaker:1685

1:02:35 ,930 --> 01:02:46,169

Fred Melamed: Let's see Aristotle, einstein and I don't

Speaker:1686

1:02:46 ,209 --> 01:02:47,255

Fred Melamed: know who the third one would be.

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Fred Melamed: I have to think about it more.

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Marc Preston: I like that.

Speaker:1689

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Marc Preston: Aristotle, a Warner Earhart from Est.

Speaker:1690

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Marc Preston: There we go.

Speaker:1691

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Marc Preston: Who again?

Speaker:1692

1:02:52 ,675 --> 01:02:52,995

Marc Preston: I'm sorry.

Speaker:1693

1:02:54 ,389 --> 01:02:56,275

Fred Melamed: Warner Earhart, the guy who invented Est.

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Marc Preston: Okay, yeah, you know it's funny.

Speaker:1695

1:02:57 ,860 --> 01:02:59,285

Marc Preston: When you said Aristotle, i started thinking

Speaker:1696

1:02:59 ,466 --> 01:03:00,992

Marc Preston: I was talking with my daughter.

Speaker:1697

1:03:01 ,305 --> 01:03:04,428

Marc Preston: We were in line getting a coffee and I said

Speaker:1698

1:03:05 ,732 --> 01:03:07,887

Marc Preston: something about a nickname that somebody

Speaker:1699

1:03:07 ,947 --> 01:03:09,732

Marc Preston: used to call me, marcus Aurelius kind of

Speaker:1700

1:03:09 ,772 --> 01:03:11,296

Marc Preston: joking, because she thought it'd be funny

Speaker:1701

1:03:12 ,088 --> 01:03:13,706

Marc Preston: if I was at the drive-through at the coffee

Speaker:1702

1:03:13 ,746 --> 01:03:13,926

Marc Preston: place.

Speaker:1703

1:03:13 ,946 --> 01:03:16,490

Marc Preston: That said Marco, and then she said maybe

Speaker:1704

1:03:16 ,510 --> 01:03:17,251

Marc Preston: they'll say Polo.

Speaker:1705

1:03:17 ,411 --> 01:03:18,673

Marc Preston: And I was like what's your name, should we

Speaker:1706

1:03:18 ,693 --> 01:03:19,314

Marc Preston: put on the coffee?

Speaker:1707

1:03:19 ,354 --> 01:03:20,716

Marc Preston: And I'm like I said let me tell you the

Speaker:1708

1:03:20 ,756 --> 01:03:22,238

Marc Preston: nicknames, we're just talking about it.

Speaker:1709

1:03:22 ,258 --> 01:03:23,740

Marc Preston: And she said who's Marcus Aurelius?

Speaker:1710

1:03:24 ,505 --> 01:03:26,247

Marc Preston: I said you've taken philosophy at the

Speaker:1711

1:03:26 ,287 --> 01:03:27,909

Marc Preston: college level and you don't know who that

Speaker:1712

1:03:27 ,930 --> 01:03:27,970

Marc Preston: is.

Speaker:1713

1:03:28 ,030 --> 01:03:28,851

Marc Preston: And she said you know, i'm not a coffee

Speaker:1714

1:03:28 ,871 --> 01:03:29,692

Marc Preston: maker, you can't be, so I'm just giving her

Speaker:1715

1:03:29 ,712 --> 01:03:29,992

Marc Preston: a hard time.

Speaker:1716

1:03:30 ,052 --> 01:03:32,235

Marc Preston: So it's like my college kids are going to

Speaker:1717

1:03:32 ,255 --> 01:03:33,817

Marc Preston: be smarter, that like more educated than me

Speaker:1718

1:03:33 ,837 --> 01:03:34,458

Marc Preston: very shortly.

Speaker:1719

1:03:34 ,498 --> 01:03:36,080

Marc Preston: So it's like I'm like, oh, i know something

Speaker:1720

1:03:36 ,100 --> 01:03:38,262

Marc Preston: they don't Just to backtrack for a second.

Speaker:1721

1:03:38 ,322 --> 01:03:39,864

Fred Melamed: So when I go to the coffee place they ask

Speaker:1722

1:03:39 ,884 --> 01:03:40,305

Fred Melamed: for your name.

Speaker:1723

1:03:40 ,425 --> 01:03:44,556

Fred Melamed: You know you go to the famous coffee place

Speaker:1724

1:03:44 ,596 --> 01:03:45,137

Fred Melamed: which I won't mention.

Speaker:1725

1:03:45 ,746 --> 01:03:47,190

Fred Melamed: So I always say my name is Hansen and they

Speaker:1726

1:03:47 ,230 --> 01:03:48,354

Fred Melamed: go, hansen, and everybody turns around.

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Marc Preston: I'm going to do that Because my youngest

Speaker:1728

1:03:53 ,830 --> 01:03:56,537

Marc Preston: she it's like this battle, like I don't try

Speaker:1729

1:03:56 ,578 --> 01:03:58,871

Marc Preston: to humiliate her ever, but I try to be like

Speaker:1730

1:03:59 ,092 --> 01:04:00,409

Marc Preston: you know, do something goofy where she just

Speaker:1731

1:04:00 ,469 --> 01:04:01,011

Marc Preston: rolls her eyes.

Speaker:1732

1:04:01 ,051 --> 01:04:03,067

Marc Preston: If she rolls her eyes, it's like a mission

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1:04:03 ,087 --> 01:04:03,990

Marc Preston: accomplished for me.

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Announcer: You win.

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Fred Melamed: Exactly.

Speaker:1736

1:04:06 ,325 --> 01:04:07,952

Marc Preston: Now, if now let's go back when you were

Speaker:1737

1:04:08 ,012 --> 01:04:10,285

Marc Preston: younger, who was your first celebrity crush?

Speaker:1738

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Marc Preston: You know someone.

Speaker:1739

1:04:11 ,250 --> 01:04:12,838

Marc Preston: You just were like Haley.

Speaker:1740

1:04:12 ,858 --> 01:04:16,083

Fred Melamed: Mills No Love Haley Mills.

Speaker:1741

1:04:17 ,332 --> 01:04:18,882

Marc Preston: She's on a top three next to Olivia

Speaker:1742

1:04:18 ,902 --> 01:04:21,727

Marc Preston: Newton-John, who just my heart breaks, and

Speaker:1743

1:04:22 ,128 --> 01:04:22,911

Marc Preston: I tell my daughters.

Speaker:1744

1:04:22 ,972 --> 01:04:24,962

Marc Preston: I said Haley and Olivia were on the list

Speaker:1745

1:04:24 ,982 --> 01:04:25,305

Marc Preston: for girls' names.

Speaker:1746

1:04:25 ,807 --> 01:04:28,901

Marc Preston: I went with Lily and Emma, but Haley Mills

Speaker:1747

1:04:28 ,921 --> 01:04:29,285

Marc Preston: oh my God.

Speaker:1748

1:04:29 ,887 --> 01:04:32,494

Fred Melamed: Haley Mills and Haley Mills and Maureen

Speaker:1749

1:04:33 ,345 --> 01:04:35,976

Fred Melamed: Maureen O'Sullivan from the early Tarzan

Speaker:1750

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Fred Melamed: movies.

Speaker:1751

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Fred Melamed: I used to watch Tarzan.

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Marc Preston: She played Jane No but what was your

Speaker:1753

1:04:39 ,578 --> 01:04:39,739

Marc Preston: favorite?

Speaker:1754

1:04:39 ,760 --> 01:04:40,265

Fred Melamed: Haley Mills movie though.

Speaker:1755

1:04:41 ,214 --> 01:04:43,332

Marc Preston: I think that's kind of like what phase was

Speaker:1756

1:04:43 ,352 --> 01:04:45,184

Marc Preston: she like a parent trap, or was it a parent

Speaker:1757

1:04:45 ,204 --> 01:04:45,285

Marc Preston: trap?

Speaker:1758

1:04:46 ,614 --> 01:04:47,057

Marc Preston: I got you.

Speaker:1759

1:04:47 ,661 --> 01:04:49,453

Marc Preston: I've never heard somebody say yay, you're

Speaker:1760

1:04:49 ,473 --> 01:04:51,043

Marc Preston: my mishpocha, i like that.

Speaker:1761

1:04:51 ,446 --> 01:04:53,580

Marc Preston: So now, if you're going to be going on an

Speaker:1762

1:04:53 ,641 --> 01:04:56,171

Marc Preston: exotic island for a year, it's somewhere

Speaker:1763

1:04:56 ,191 --> 01:04:57,054

Marc Preston: you're going to enjoy being.

Speaker:1764

1:04:57 ,305 --> 01:04:58,589

Marc Preston: But you're there for a year no streaming,

Speaker:1765

1:04:58 ,649 --> 01:05:00,906

Marc Preston: no ability to watch anything but you can

Speaker:1766

1:05:00 ,926 --> 01:05:07,174

Marc Preston: bring a DVD of a movie, cd of an album, and

Speaker:1767

1:05:07 ,194 --> 01:05:09,050

Marc Preston: some people I speak with they don't really

Speaker:1768

1:05:09 ,110 --> 01:05:10,862

Marc Preston: watch movies that much, ironically, but

Speaker:1769

1:05:10 ,882 --> 01:05:11,305

Marc Preston: they read a lot.

Speaker:1770

1:05:11 ,666 --> 01:05:14,426

Marc Preston: So if you'd prefer a book, go for it, but

Speaker:1771

1:05:14 ,446 --> 01:05:16,204

Marc Preston: basically an album and a movie or a book

Speaker:1772

1:05:17 ,416 --> 01:05:18,305

Marc Preston: that you would like to bring with you.

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Fred Melamed: Well, i would bring I'm cheating, but I

Speaker:1774

1:05:20 ,426 --> 01:05:21,941

Fred Melamed: would bring the collected works of Patrick

Speaker:1775

1:05:22 ,002 --> 01:05:25,478

Fred Melamed: O'Brien, which is 21 novels which I have

Speaker:1776

1:05:25 ,518 --> 01:05:26,703

Fred Melamed: been reading and listening to.

Speaker:1777

1:05:28 ,088 --> 01:05:29,534

Fred Melamed: I've listened to the recorded versions of

Speaker:1778

1:05:29 ,554 --> 01:05:31,301

Fred Melamed: them since 1990.

Speaker:1779

1:05:31 ,321 --> 01:05:32,305

Fred Melamed: So what is that now?

Speaker:1780

1:05:32 ,990 --> 01:05:35,305

Fred Melamed: Whatever that is, since 19, that's 32 years.

Speaker:1781

1:05:36 ,493 --> 01:05:38,305

Fred Melamed: I've listened to them all and read them all

Speaker:1782

1:05:38 ,871 --> 01:05:39,901

Fred Melamed: at least a dozen times each one.

Speaker:1783

1:05:39 ,921 --> 01:05:41,795

Fred Melamed: but they're so rich, they're so full of

Speaker:1784

1:05:41 ,835 --> 01:05:43,305

Fred Melamed: great stuff that I never tire of them.

Speaker:1785

1:05:44 ,448 --> 01:05:48,077

Fred Melamed: So that would be my literary pick for music.

Speaker:1786

1:05:50 ,189 --> 01:05:51,733

Fred Melamed: I would pick either.

Speaker:1787

1:05:51 ,833 --> 01:05:53,837

Fred Melamed: I would probably pick.

Speaker:1788

1:05:57 ,044 --> 01:05:57,265

Fred Melamed: It's tough.

Speaker:1789

1:05:57 ,526 --> 01:06:00,175

Fred Melamed: I would either say Blue by Joni Mitchell,

Speaker:1790

1:06:00 ,568 --> 01:06:02,103

Fred Melamed: which to me is probably one of the greatest

Speaker:1791

1:06:02 ,123 --> 01:06:08,598

Fred Melamed: albums I've ever recorded, or I guess Asia

Speaker:1792

1:06:08 ,861 --> 01:06:09,224

Fred Melamed: by Steely Dan.

Speaker:1793

1:06:09 ,929 --> 01:06:11,359

Marc Preston: I was gonna say Steely Dan has to be in

Speaker:1794

1:06:11 ,379 --> 01:06:12,305

Marc Preston: there somewhere, like you mentioned.

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1:06:12 ,687 --> 01:06:15,682

Fred Melamed: My favorite movie of all time is an obscure

Speaker:1796

1:06:15 ,722 --> 01:06:16,285

Fred Melamed: movie to most people.

Speaker:1797

1:06:17 ,093 --> 01:06:18,305

Fred Melamed: It's a movie called Great Expectations,

Speaker:1798

1:06:18 ,669 --> 01:06:20,305

Fred Melamed: made by David Lean in 1946.

Speaker:1799

1:06:21 ,453 --> 01:06:22,520

Fred Melamed: Absolutely the greatest movie I've ever

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1:06:22 ,560 --> 01:06:23,305

Fred Melamed: made to me, really.

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Marc Preston: I love when people answer these questions

Speaker:1802

1:06:25 ,305 --> 01:06:27,164

Marc Preston: because it gives me things to go watch and

Speaker:1803

1:06:27 ,184 --> 01:06:29,298

Marc Preston: stream or things to cook.

Speaker:1804

1:06:29 ,520 --> 01:06:31,820

Marc Preston: Also, sometimes people would be able to

Speaker:1805

1:06:31 ,861 --> 01:06:33,194

Marc Preston: favorite comfort food is that thing?

Speaker:1806

1:06:33 ,457 --> 01:06:35,315

Marc Preston: speaking with someone the other day that it

Speaker:1807

1:06:35 ,356 --> 01:06:36,305

Marc Preston: was a thing when they were a poor actor

Speaker:1808

1:06:37 ,090 --> 01:06:39,023

Marc Preston: off-Broadway, and it was that thing that

Speaker:1809

1:06:39 ,043 --> 01:06:40,719

Marc Preston: they made with very little money, but they

Speaker:1810

1:06:40 ,760 --> 01:06:42,751

Marc Preston: still love eating, i was like I need to

Speaker:1811

1:06:42 ,791 --> 01:06:45,285

Marc Preston: make that, so I get educated here as well.

Speaker:1812

1:06:45 ,951 --> 01:06:47,184

Marc Preston: You get some ramen and you put some ketchup

Speaker:1813

1:06:47 ,204 --> 01:06:47,305

Marc Preston: in it.

Speaker:1814

1:06:48 ,416 --> 01:06:49,103

Marc Preston: Oh, he was like exotic.

Speaker:1815

1:06:50 ,734 --> 01:06:52,245

Marc Preston: It was cheap though, but he threw beans in

Speaker:1816

1:06:52 ,265 --> 01:06:55,976

Marc Preston: it and it turned into just something that

Speaker:1817

1:06:56 ,057 --> 01:06:57,305

Marc Preston: my inner college kid was down with it.

Speaker:1818

1:06:59 ,077 --> 01:07:00,830

Marc Preston: Now next question if you're gonna be From

Speaker:1819

1:07:00 ,850 --> 01:07:02,204

Marc Preston: the time you get up to the time you get to

Speaker:1820

1:07:02 ,224 --> 01:07:04,204

Marc Preston: bed, if you're gonna say this is a perfect

Speaker:1821

1:07:04 ,224 --> 01:07:07,501

Marc Preston: day, what component parts of that day would

Speaker:1822

1:07:07 ,521 --> 01:07:08,225

Marc Preston: you like to see occur?

Speaker:1823

1:07:09 ,815 --> 01:07:11,285

Marc Preston: What's part of a perfect day for you?

Speaker:1824

1:07:12 ,795 --> 01:07:14,305

Fred Melamed: Well, first of all, it can't be summertime.

Speaker:1825

1:07:15 ,032 --> 01:07:17,128

Marc Preston: I hate the summer it's too hot Really, even

Speaker:1826

1:07:17 ,168 --> 01:07:18,152

Marc Preston: where you live, where it's not.

Speaker:1827

1:07:18 ,646 --> 01:07:18,988

Fred Melamed: Really.

Speaker:1828

1:07:19 ,128 --> 01:07:22,709

Marc Preston: No, okay, okay, Where I live is a hot hell.

Speaker:1829

1:07:22 ,729 --> 01:07:24,224

Fred Melamed: I live in the San Fernando Valley.

Speaker:1830

1:07:24 ,951 --> 01:07:26,164

Fred Melamed: It's 104 years away.

Speaker:1831

1:07:27 ,088 --> 01:07:28,253

Fred Melamed: 104 is awful.

Speaker:1832

1:07:29 ,795 --> 01:07:36,305

Fred Melamed: Okay, get up, have a wonderful breakfast,

Speaker:1833

1:07:36 ,325 --> 01:07:41,690

Fred Melamed: not too heavy though lightish breakfast.

Speaker:1834

1:07:42 ,887 --> 01:07:46,530

Fred Melamed: Do my 10 miles on my bike, which I do most

Speaker:1835

1:07:46 ,590 --> 01:07:46,891

Fred Melamed: days.

Speaker:1836

1:07:47 ,385 --> 01:07:48,509

Fred Melamed: I don't exercise bike, i do 10 miles.

Speaker:1837

1:07:48 ,529 --> 01:07:50,608

Marc Preston: Well, a stationary bike, or you actually

Speaker:1838

1:07:50 ,628 --> 01:07:52,204

Marc Preston: get up right around the neighborhood.

Speaker:1839

1:07:53 ,308 --> 01:07:55,295

Fred Melamed: I do not get out when it's 104.

Speaker:1840

1:07:55 ,325 --> 01:07:57,707

Fred Melamed: Okay, yeah, true, true, i'm going a little

Speaker:1841

1:07:57 ,727 --> 01:07:59,807

Fred Melamed: stationary bike in my and looking at movies

Speaker:1842

1:07:59 ,827 --> 01:08:00,590

Fred Melamed: or television shows.

Speaker:1843

1:08:01 ,466 --> 01:08:02,470

Fred Melamed: I do that exercising.

Speaker:1844

1:08:03 ,305 --> 01:08:05,827

Fred Melamed: Then, if it were perfect day, I would be

Speaker:1845

1:08:05 ,887 --> 01:08:09,412

Fred Melamed: with my kids and I would drive them to a.

Speaker:1846

1:08:10 ,526 --> 01:08:11,891

Fred Melamed: I would drive them to where there's water.

Speaker:1847

1:08:12 ,305 --> 01:08:13,911

Fred Melamed: Either there's a beautiful lake by where we

Speaker:1848

1:08:13 ,972 --> 01:08:16,132

Fred Melamed: live, or maybe we go to the beach somewhere.

Speaker:1849

1:08:16 ,506 --> 01:08:18,686

Fred Melamed: We'd like to go to Malibu, if it's not hot,

Speaker:1850

1:08:18 ,707 --> 01:08:19,249

Fred Melamed: hang out there.

Speaker:1851

1:08:21 ,993 --> 01:08:24,305

Fred Melamed: Or sometimes we go to museums.

Speaker:1852

1:08:24 ,445 --> 01:08:25,851

Fred Melamed: I love to go to museums too.

Speaker:1853

1:08:27 ,389 --> 01:08:30,328

Fred Melamed: Part of my family is English the cousin

Speaker:1854

1:08:30 ,348 --> 01:08:32,807

Fred Melamed: who's a countess, who lives in England, and

Speaker:1855

1:08:32 ,867 --> 01:08:34,233

Fred Melamed: we love to visit her also.

Speaker:1856

1:08:34 ,345 --> 01:08:36,150

Fred Melamed: So maybe we would spend a day in England

Speaker:1857

1:08:37 ,213 --> 01:08:37,574

Fred Melamed: with her.

Speaker:1858

1:08:40 ,791 --> 01:08:43,037

Fred Melamed: I love to be in nature for part of the time.

Speaker:1859

1:08:44 ,087 --> 01:08:46,715

Fred Melamed: And then what would we do?

Speaker:1860

1:08:47 ,305 --> 01:08:50,849

Fred Melamed: We would come back, we would have a

Speaker:1861

1:08:50 ,970 --> 01:08:55,858

Fred Melamed: sumptuous dinner with good wine, and then I

Speaker:1862

1:08:55 ,898 --> 01:08:57,305

Fred Melamed: would play some video games with my kids,

Speaker:1863

1:08:57 ,747 --> 01:08:59,766

Fred Melamed: which I enjoy tremendously, and then we'd

Speaker:1864

1:08:59 ,786 --> 01:09:04,569

Fred Melamed: end off watching a great movie, maybe the

Speaker:1865

1:09:04 ,790 --> 01:09:09,702

Fred Melamed: movie that I mentioned to you, and then my

Speaker:1866

1:09:09 ,742 --> 01:09:14,216

Fred Melamed: kids would go off to sleep and I would

Speaker:1867

1:09:14 ,657 --> 01:09:17,406

Fred Melamed: retire to the bedroom with my beautiful and

Speaker:1868

1:09:17 ,426 --> 01:09:19,244

Fred Melamed: accommodating girlfriend.

Speaker:1869

1:09:19 ,728 --> 01:09:20,976

Fred Melamed: That sounds absolutely.

Speaker:1870

1:09:21 ,345 --> 01:09:23,258

Fred Melamed: That sounds more than delightful.

Speaker:1871

1:09:23 ,278 --> 01:09:24,305

Marc Preston: I'm very much the same way.

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1:09:25 Advice for 16-Year-Old Self (98 Seconds)

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Marc Preston: Now the last question I got.

Speaker:1873

1:09:26 ,258 --> 01:09:28,591

Marc Preston: Let's say you've got a DeLorean, you can go

Speaker:1874

1:09:28 ,612 --> 01:09:30,199

Marc Preston: back in time 16-year-old you, you're gonna

Speaker:1875

1:09:30 ,380 --> 01:09:32,993

Marc Preston: go back for a few minutes and have a little

Speaker:1876

1:09:33 ,013 --> 01:09:35,813

Marc Preston: chat with 16-year-old What piece of advice

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1:09:35 ,893 --> 01:09:38,506

Marc Preston: or wisdom or knowledge or guidance would

Speaker:1878

1:09:38 ,567 --> 01:09:39,654

Marc Preston: you give yourself at 16?

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1:09:41 ,392 --> 01:09:45,741

Fred Melamed: Gosh, i think I would say the same thing

Speaker:1880

1:09:45 ,761 --> 01:09:47,855

Fred Melamed: that everybody else says, or most other

Speaker:1881

1:09:47 ,936 --> 01:09:49,305

Fred Melamed: people say, which is have faith in yourself,

Speaker:1882

1:09:49 ,305 --> 01:09:49,808

Fred Melamed: you're gonna be okay.

Speaker:1883

1:09:52 ,486 --> 01:09:56,377

Fred Melamed: You're headed for good things.

Speaker:1884

1:09:58 ,547 --> 01:10:03,715

Fred Melamed: Trust your own instincts about things And

Speaker:1885

1:10:04 ,859 --> 01:10:05,642

Fred Melamed: try and be kind.

Speaker:1886

1:10:07 ,209 --> 01:10:08,074

Fred Melamed: Try and be kind.

Speaker:1887

1:10:09 ,670 --> 01:10:12,361

Fred Melamed: The world is full of people striving with

Speaker:1888

1:10:12 ,381 --> 01:10:13,185

Fred Melamed: all kinds of problems.

Speaker:1889

1:10:15 ,335 --> 01:10:17,044

Fred Melamed: And be kind to yourself and be kind to

Speaker:1890

1:10:17 ,064 --> 01:10:19,318

Fred Melamed: other people Might get your business to be

Speaker:1891

1:10:19 ,359 --> 01:10:19,540

Fred Melamed: kind.

Speaker:1892

1:10:19 ,580 --> 01:10:20,285

Fred Melamed: That's what I would tell myself.

Speaker:1893

1:10:20 ,747 --> 01:10:21,853

Fred Melamed: And you're gonna be okay.

Speaker:1894

1:10:22 ,174 --> 01:10:22,596

Fred Melamed: That's wonderful.

Speaker:1895

1:10:24 ,048 --> 01:10:25,915

Fred Melamed: I've heard many people say that.

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1:10:25 ,935 --> 01:10:28,064

Marc Preston: Another thing I love is people say don't

Speaker:1897

1:10:28 ,084 --> 01:10:28,285

Marc Preston: wait, do it.

Speaker:1898

1:10:29 ,654 --> 01:10:31,546

Marc Preston: You know you're gonna be okay, do it That

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1:10:31 ,606 --> 01:10:32,349

Marc Preston: thing you wanna do.

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1:10:33 ,385 --> 01:10:35,011

Marc Preston: But kindness is something I've really tried

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1:10:35 ,031 --> 01:10:35,954

Marc Preston: to instill in my kids.

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Marc Preston: You really just don't know, and I think

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Marc Preston: that, being a little older and you speak to

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Marc Preston: those people in high school, they thought,

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Marc Preston: oh, they had a perfect life, everything was

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Marc Preston: great, Everything was on paper.

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Fred Melamed: You go to high school.

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Fred Melamed: You're just a net.

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Fred Melamed: The people, yeah, The guys who go to high

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Fred Melamed: school.

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Fred Melamed: You're just a guy that owns a dodge

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Fred Melamed: dealership in town, All the people you

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Fred Melamed: think are gonna be the big successes.

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Fred Melamed: and never, it's never that way.

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Marc Preston: It's a strange peculiarity of life.

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Marc Preston: Again, i sincerely appreciate you, such a

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Marc Preston: mensch, by sharing your time with me.

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Marc Preston: I've wanted to chat for some time and I'm

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Marc Preston: so glad you have a new project coming out I

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Marc Preston: can talk about.

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Marc Preston: Have really a wonderful weekend And I look