Actor Shohreh Aghdashloo from "The Expanse" and Netflix's "Damsel" joins us on Story & Craft.
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Actor Shohreh Aghdashloo from “The Expanse” and Netflix’s “Damsel” joins us on Story & Craft.
Shohreh is an Academy Award nominee and Emmy winner whose work includes “The Expanse,” “24,” “Star Trek,” “Renfield,” “X-Men” and the voice of the dragon in “Damsel.” We talk about her escape from Iran during the 1978 revolution, her husband’s support for her acting, and the expectations placed on Iranian women. She also discusses the backlash to her role on “24” and working with Ben Kingsley and Nicolas Cage.
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
Shohreh Aghdashloo joins Story & Craft
Religion and Power in Film
Escape From Iranian Revolution
The Influence of Western Films
Iranian Women’s Empowerment and Evolution
Audition Experience For Academy Award Winning Role
The Expanse
Praise for TV Show Characters
Acting, Stories, and Future Projects
Portraying Multi-Layered Characters as an Actor
Exploring The Character Avasarala from The Expanse
Cooking Show During COVID
Working With Keanu Reeves and Creativity
Acting, Imagination, and Life Lessons
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Full Transcript
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Acting, especially by women in Iran, was
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Shohreh: frowned upon.
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Shohreh: So that's why every time a gentleman asked
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Shohreh: for my hand, I would have asked him right
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Shohreh: there, and then how would you like me to
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Shohreh: start acting?
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Shohreh: This one said yes, and I married him.
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Announcer: Welcome to Story Craft.
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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.
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Marc: All right, here we go.
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Marc: Another episode of Story Craft.
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Marc: Thank you so much for stopping back by.
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Marc: I sincerely appreciate it.
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Marc: Now, if this is your first episode, my name
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Marc: is Marc Preston and I'm glad to have you
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Marc: along, especially for today's episode.
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Marc: I have been trying to get this guest on for
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Marc: some time now.
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Marc: I've wanted to sit down with Shoray
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Marc: Agadashloo for some time and really am
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Marc: jazzed to bring you this episode because
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Marc: she's got a great story to tell.
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Marc: In fact, we spent a lot of time chatting
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Marc: about her background, being from Iran, and
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Marc: what it was like for her to start there and
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Marc: the path she took to come be an Academy
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Marc: Award-nominated actor, an Emmy
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Marc: Award-winning actor, who has been in all
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Marc: kinds of great projects.
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Marc: You know her from playing Avasarala in the
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Marc: sci-fi show one of my favorite sci-fi shows
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Marc: actually the Expanse.
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Marc: Also been in 24, the Flight Attendant,
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Marc: on-screen movies such as Star Trek Beyond.
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Marc: She was in the X-Men and, of course, the
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Marc: House of Sand and Fog.
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Marc: That's the movie she got the Academy Award
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Marc: nomination for.
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Marc: She also does a lot of voiceover work as
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Marc: well.
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Marc: In fact, right now you can hear her as the
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Marc: voice of the dragon in the Netflix movie
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Marc: Damsel Sho Ray is such a pleasure and I'm
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Marc: All right, let's get after it.
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Marc: Today is Shoray Agadashlu Day, right here
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Marc: on Story Craft.
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Marc: Before we start, I want to say it's Sh
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Marc: Chore, correct?
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Marc: Am I saying it correctly?
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Marc: That's right.
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Shohreh: It's Chore.
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Shohreh: Yeah, you don't have to.
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Shohreh: Yes, kind of drag the E Chore, it's just
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Shohreh: Chore.
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Shohreh: But I have to tell you a story about this
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Shohreh: one.
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Shohreh: I think I have put too many H's in my name
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Shohreh: S-H-O-H-R-E-H.
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Shohreh: And when I was working with Sir Ben
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Shohreh: Kingsley since he's such a gentleman every
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Shohreh: morning he made sure that he would say
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Shohreh: hello to me first.
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Shohreh: He would come to me and say good morning,
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Shohreh: sir.
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Shohreh: I'm like Jesus, how am I going?
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Shohreh: One day, I told him, sir Ben, I think I put
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Shohreh: too many H's in my name.
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Shohreh: You don't have to pronounce each and every
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Shohreh: one of them.
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Shohreh: So yeah, it's.
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Marc: Sori, you know, I've heard him in
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Marc: interviews before.
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Marc: He seems to be kind of a very, has a very
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Marc: kind of a dry, sneaky sense of humor.
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Marc: I don't know, I mean that's the sense I get
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Marc: from him.
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Shohreh: Yes, you're right.
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Marc: But he does seem to have a good sense of
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Marc: humor, amazing sense of humor.
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Shohreh: It's unbelievable.
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Shohreh: And the thing is that he could go on.
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Shohreh: You know making jokes and you know having
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Shohreh: fun and laughing while walking towards the
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Shohreh: set, but the moment he puts his foot on the
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Shohreh: set, the whole world turned into the world
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Shohreh: of the character that he's living in.
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Shohreh: It's just incredible how he does that.
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Shohreh: First day when he started joking tell me
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Shohreh: you know jokes and we were both laughing
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Shohreh: and I was thinking how am I going to work
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Shohreh: with him?
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Shohreh: He's so happy and this is a tragedy.
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Shohreh: And when we got to the set he just entered,
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Shohreh: all of a sudden his chest started going up,
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Shohreh: his head going up, and he said good morning
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Shohreh: everyone.
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Shohreh: And he was Colonel Behrani.
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Shohreh: He was Colonel Behrani.
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Shohreh: It was just incredible.
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Shohreh: Yeah, he's an amazing actor.
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Marc: Yeah, there was a physicality to uh like
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Marc: even at the beginning of um the land.
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Marc: Uh uh, house of sand sand, and fog am I
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Marc: saying it's house of sand and folk?
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Marc: When he was giving a speech?
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Marc: He has a.
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Marc: He has a very proud demeanor about him.
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Marc: You know most certainly very much so.
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Shohreh: and what I love about him and actors like
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Shohreh: him or daniel-Lewis or Sarah Hopkins, it's
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Shohreh: not just the soul of the character that
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Shohreh: they work on.
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Shohreh: They work on the character's physicality as
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Shohreh: well.
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Shohreh: But to me, the most smart questions for the
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Shohreh: first meetings are tell me how my character
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Shohreh: looks like.
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Shohreh: Is she short, Is she tall, Is she
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Shohreh: And Ben Kingsley, Daniel Lewis, they first
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Shohreh: think.
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Shohreh: I have a feeling that they first think
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Shohreh: about the physicality of their character,
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Shohreh: Like when Ben Kingsley is portraying a
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Shohreh: general Iranian general, proud Iranian
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Shohreh: Obviously he turns into a proud general
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Shohreh: with his head held high.
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Shohreh: So Daniel Day-Lewis, I love the way he
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Shohreh: walks.
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Shohreh: In the film it's called what there Will Be
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Shohreh: Blood.
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Shohreh: I think Axis should study his walking only
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Shohreh: I mean his physicality, when he got his
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Shohreh: character from.
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Marc: You know, that's one of the only films I
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Marc: have not seen.
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Marc: I'm trying to think there Will Be Blood,
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Marc: Is that Paul Thomas Sanders, the director,
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Marc: directed that?
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Marc: Yes, of course.
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Marc: Yes, that's the only one of his films I
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Marc: But there will be blood.
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Marc: That is still on my list of things to see.
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Shohreh: Brilliant, brilliant question.
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Shohreh: If you really have a question about mixing
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Shohreh: governments with religions, if you ever
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Shohreh: have a question about bringing religion
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Shohreh: into our conversations and interactions,
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Shohreh: what happens when we do that?
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Shohreh: It's just incredible and I think Daniel
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Shohreh: Day-Lewis has done an amazing job.
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Shohreh: He's turned into this man and it affected
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Shohreh: me so well.
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Shohreh: I called my daughter and I said you have to
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Shohreh: see this film because this is a
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Shohreh: conversation between religion and power.
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Marc: Well, you, of course, probably more than
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Marc: most people in your own life experience
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Marc: most people in your own life experience I
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Marc: don't mean to get too far ahead, but being
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Marc: politics, it seems like there is a in your
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Marc: history and kind of in 1979 was just such a
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Marc: When people think Iran now I feel like it's
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Marc: such a majestic, interesting dynamic, just
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Marc: politics.
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Marc: I just kind of wanted your feedback on that
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Marc: kind of saw things pre and post 1979.
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Marc: Just kind of generally your thoughts and
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Marc: kind of how that affected you and
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Marc: influenced you and I know that's such a
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Marc: broad question but no, you're right, I know
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Marc: exactly where you're coming from.
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Shohreh: You are absolutely right.
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Shohreh: The reason I am more interested in
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Shohreh: political either religious political or
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Shohreh: just pure political films is because of the
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Shohreh: fact that I have seen it firsthand how a
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Shohreh: secular society overnight turns into a
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Shohreh: religious tyranny.
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Shohreh: I have seen how it works and I have seen
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Shohreh: how it ends, usually because of the people.
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Shohreh: The more kind of religious people you have
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Shohreh: in your country, the more susceptible you
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Shohreh: are to a religious tyranny, unfortunately.
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Shohreh: So I've seen it firsthand.
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Marc: Growing up in Iran.
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Marc: What was the experience like?
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Marc: And have you been back since then, in
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Marc: recent years years, have you been able to
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Marc: kind of do the ab comparison and kind of
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Marc: the, the aesthetic, what it felt like to be
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Marc: there?
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Shohreh: I'm afraid not.
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Shohreh: I have not been able to travel back to my
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Shohreh: birth country for almost 45 years now.
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Shohreh: I left right at the time of the turmoil, as
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Shohreh: soon as I heard that there were rumors but
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Shohreh: one wants to stay away from troubles and as
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Shohreh: soon as I heard that Ayatollahs are coming.
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Shohreh: What is this?
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Shohreh: Ayatollah Khomeini is coming from France
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Shohreh: via Air France.
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Shohreh: He has refused to come in with an Iranian
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Shohreh: plane.
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Shohreh: He wants to come in with a French plane.
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Shohreh: And I'm thinking, oh my God, why do I feel
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Shohreh: a conspiracy here, and why shouldn't he not
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Shohreh: come in, you know, in an Iranian plane?
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Shohreh: He's coming in with the help of his allies
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Shohreh: and this looks bad and I don't want to stay
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Shohreh: here.
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Shohreh: I don't want to live here for now.
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Marc: So on February 28th, but you were very
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Marc: young too to be able to make such big
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Marc: decisions at that age.
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Marc: That's a big decision to make.
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Shohreh: Yes, I was 26,.
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Shohreh: To be honest with you, to be honest with
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Shohreh: you, sometimes it surprises myself as well
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Shohreh: that how smart I was at the age of 26 when
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Shohreh: I decided to leave the mayhem behind and
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Shohreh: just go to Europe and try my chance over
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Shohreh: there, because I knew I was an actress and
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Shohreh: I knew that under religious tyranny, under
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Shohreh: mullahs, there wouldn't be a place for an
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Shohreh: outspoken young actress.
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Shohreh: I was back then, but unfortunately I made
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Shohreh: up my mind too late.
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Shohreh: The prime minister at the time had already
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Shohreh: ordered all the airports to shut down and
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Shohreh: for him to have some time to think about
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Shohreh: what to do with the Ayatollah when he
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Shohreh: arrives.
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Shohreh: And as soon as I heard it from the radio
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Shohreh: that airports have been shut down, I
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Shohreh: thought that I told my dog, my beloved dog,
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Shohreh: pasha.
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Shohreh: His name was Pasha in Turkish means sir.
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Marc: I had already won a couple of awards.
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Shohreh: One of the few things I should say, because
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Marc: So were Western films very popular.
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Shohreh: Very much so we dubbed the movies.
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Shohreh: To be honest with you, when I was a
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Shohreh: It's interesting, yeah, and another reason
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Shohreh: They are the best writers, one of the best
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Shohreh: No, I'm afraid I was alone.
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Shohreh: It was the only option.
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Shohreh: It was the only option for me to get out
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Shohreh: I knew that I was going to sell my car, I
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Shohreh: I'm going to start studying politics
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Shohreh: because I wanted to know what was happening
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Shohreh: Why, why the turmoil at such time, three
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Shohreh: He said it, he said it out loud to the
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Marc: Did you have any sense, having grown up
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Marc: Did you feel like for lack of a better way
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Marc: Did you feel any kind of evolution
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Shohreh: If I want to compare it to anything in real
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Shohreh: The clock has turned back 1300 years.
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Shohreh: I swear I wanted to.
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Shohreh: What happened?
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Shohreh: I'm dying to talk to her and find out where
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Shohreh: Where she got the idea from and why is this
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Shohreh: It means that, in my knowledge, it what it
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Shohreh: was your going back when you decided you
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Shohreh: were wanting to act?
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Marc: Was that well received by your family?
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Shohreh: The problem is that I wish they had
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Shohreh: My mother was fine, but my father was not
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Shohreh: I remember when I told my mother when we
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Marc: When did you get to the US and start
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Shohreh: Allow me to tell you something about the
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Shohreh: How I started acting here.
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Shohreh: This is really interesting.
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Shohreh: When they say chance, they really mean it.
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Shohreh: I was traveling when DreamWorks, the
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Shohreh: Sand and Fog, was looking for an actress to
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,081 --> 00:22:34,008
Shohreh: play the role of the general's wife.
544
,670 --> 00:22:36,614
Shohreh: I was traveling, I was on a theatrical tour.
545
,022 --> 00:22:40,627
Shohreh: I had recently back and I was sitting in my
546
,787 --> 00:22:45,295
Shohreh: office and the phone rang and the lady on
547
,315 --> 00:22:48,000
Shohreh: the phone was asking for Suriya Abidasluiya,
548
,761 --> 00:22:50,866
Shohreh: and I said that sounds like my name, but
549
,906 --> 00:22:51,948
Shohreh: it's not my name.
550
,489 --> 00:22:54,694
Shohreh: She goes whatever your name is, would you
551
,760 --> 00:22:56,343
Shohreh: like to come down and sort it out.
552
,185 --> 00:22:57,986
Shohreh: And I said where to?
553
,627 --> 00:23:02,721
Shohreh: She said DreamWorks, and I started shaking
554
,741 --> 00:23:03,524
Shohreh: a little bit and I said, regarding.
555
,544 --> 00:23:04,307
Shohreh: She said the house of sand and fog.
556
,347 --> 00:23:05,210
Shohreh: And I started shaking a little bit and I
557
,230 --> 00:23:05,692
Shohreh: said, regarding.
558
,712 --> 00:23:08,721
Shohreh: She said the house of sand and fog and I
559
,762 --> 00:23:11,028
Shohreh: went speechless because I had already read
560
,068 --> 00:23:11,389
Shohreh: the book.
561
,630 --> 00:23:14,628
Shohreh: Oh, okay, and I told, yeah, I'd already
562
,668 --> 00:23:16,501
Shohreh: read the book and while reading it,
563
,143 --> 00:23:21,648
Shohreh: apparently on one occasion I was making
564
,270 --> 00:23:27,154
Shohreh: miserable sounds and my husband asked me
565
,615 --> 00:23:28,516
Shohreh: what's the matter with you?
566
,362 --> 00:23:34,512
Shohreh: And I said if one day they make a movie out
567
,532 --> 00:23:35,480
Shohreh: of this book and do not give me this role,
568
,180 --> 00:23:38,289
Shohreh: then there is no democracy in this country.
569
,380 --> 00:23:39,444
Shohreh: That would be very unfair.
570
,705 --> 00:23:40,508
Marc: How cool is that?
571
,422 --> 00:23:43,529
Marc: To read a book or to see a screenplay,
572
,569 --> 00:23:45,321
Marc: anything and go that's the thing I want to
573
,341 --> 00:23:46,022
Marc: do and get a call.
574
,403 --> 00:23:48,368
Marc: So you're trying probably try not to act
575
,489 --> 00:23:50,842
Marc: too excited, you know, but did you?
576
,942 --> 00:23:52,085
Marc: Uh, how fast did you get down to the
577
,105 --> 00:23:53,308
Marc: casting office or the?
578
,448 --> 00:23:54,671
Marc: Uh, dreamworks the day?
579
,791 --> 00:23:57,264
Shohreh: after the day after, the day after.
580
,745 --> 00:24:00,130
Shohreh: But my mistake was because I thought that
581
Iranian Women's Empowerment and Evolution
,892 --> 00:24:04,285
Shohreh: my character is always coughed up up in the
582
,305 --> 00:24:10,740
Shohreh: story and that's how Iranian women are when
583
,761 --> 00:24:12,107
Shohreh: they wake up, rather than having breakfast
584
,127 --> 00:24:13,876
Shohreh: first, they would just take care of their
585
,896 --> 00:24:16,821
Shohreh: hair and face and put a nice dress on and
586
,841 --> 00:24:18,566
Shohreh: then they come for breakfast.
587
,188 --> 00:24:22,607
Shohreh: That's how she was and that's why I went
588
,687 --> 00:24:23,289
Shohreh: out of my way.
589
,940 --> 00:24:25,607
Shohreh: As soon as I received a call, I went to
590
Audition Experience For Academy Award Winning Role
,667 --> 00:24:27,866
Shohreh: Nordstrom, bought myself some expensive
591
,906 --> 00:24:30,656
Shohreh: pieces, put a lot of makeup on, went to the
592
,697 --> 00:24:34,188
Shohreh: audition and the director, a wedding pair
593
,248 --> 00:24:34,528
Shohreh: man.
594
,411 --> 00:24:37,986
Shohreh: He looked at me and he said oh no, no, no,
595
,067 --> 00:24:38,408
Shohreh: no, no.
596
,043 --> 00:24:41,809
Shohreh: Go home, come back tomorrow without makeup.
597
,660 --> 00:24:44,447
Shohreh: And I said but this woman is always coughed
598
,487 --> 00:24:45,089
Shohreh: up to her teeth.
599
,560 --> 00:24:47,507
Shohreh: He goes, I understand, but I want to do
600
,548 --> 00:24:49,506
Shohreh: this, I want to portray this woman without
601
,566 --> 00:24:49,868
Shohreh: makeup.
602
,861 --> 00:24:57,127
Shohreh: So I came home, I found a pair of black
603
,168 --> 00:25:00,364
Shohreh: jeans very old ones black T-shirt, which
604
,404 --> 00:25:05,387
Shohreh: was almost yellow, and put my hair in a bun
605
,407 --> 00:25:09,458
Shohreh: and I said because I didn't want to use my
606
,498 --> 00:25:12,016
Shohreh: hair as a dramatic tool, and went for the
607
,056 --> 00:25:12,879
Shohreh: audition.
608
,271 --> 00:25:15,498
Marc: But you fundamentally understood who this
609
,558 --> 00:25:16,581
Marc: character was.
610
,296 --> 00:25:21,061
Marc: You already did the homework, as they say.
611
,170 --> 00:25:22,455
Marc: You already knew who she was.
612
,896 --> 00:25:23,499
Shohreh: Inside out.
613
,612 --> 00:25:27,874
Shohreh: When I was reading the book I always
614
,095 --> 00:25:30,556
Shohreh: thought that, my God, I know a woman like
615
,616 --> 00:25:31,299
Shohreh: this in Iran.
616
,870 --> 00:25:34,373
Shohreh: Oh, my God, I came across another woman
617
,774 --> 00:25:37,099
Shohreh: like this in Iran, so I was pretty familiar
618
,119 --> 00:25:37,339
Shohreh: with it.
619
,740 --> 00:25:43,255
Shohreh: So the day after I put a jeans pair of
620
,615 --> 00:25:48,563
Shohreh: black, torn kind of old jeans a black shirt
621
,603 --> 00:25:51,053
Shohreh: that was almost yellow and it was so old
622
,491 --> 00:25:55,858
Shohreh: Put my hair I had a long hair put my hair
623
,878 --> 00:25:57,185
Shohreh: in a bun because I didn't want to use my
624
,205 --> 00:25:57,990
Shohreh: hair as a dramatic tool.
625
,770 --> 00:26:00,477
Shohreh: When I was leaving, the director told me
626
,030 --> 00:26:03,298
Shohreh: come back tomorrow and see if you can make
627
,358 --> 00:26:03,880
Shohreh: me cry.
628
,790 --> 00:26:06,959
Shohreh: And I was determined to make him cry.
629
,891 --> 00:26:09,035
Shohreh: No, makeup, nothing.
630
,196 --> 00:26:11,681
Shohreh: I went to the audition Four scenes I was
631
,702 --> 00:26:12,691
Shohreh: supposed to audition for.
632
,292 --> 00:26:15,757
Shohreh: He asked me if I would like to take a pause
633
,198 --> 00:26:18,963
Shohreh: in between the scenes and I said no, thank
634
,003 --> 00:26:19,104
Shohreh: you.
635
,510 --> 00:26:20,612
Shohreh: And he said why not?
636
,434 --> 00:26:24,640
Shohreh: And I said I want to get to the crescendo
637
,261 --> 00:26:26,103
Shohreh: and make you cry.
638
,824 --> 00:26:27,670
Shohreh: And he said let's try.
639
,271 --> 00:26:30,493
Shohreh: And he cried and gave me the robe.
640
,155 --> 00:26:35,077
Marc: That has to be quite an empowering feeling.
641
,738 --> 00:26:37,199
Marc: You mentioned how she wore makeup.
642
,680 --> 00:26:41,704
Marc: Was there always a sense of, like my
643
,744 --> 00:26:42,685
Marc: grandmother, rest her soul.
644
,705 --> 00:26:43,425
Marc: She would never leave.
645
,545 --> 00:26:44,606
Marc: She wouldn't go to the grocery store.
646
,626 --> 00:26:45,367
Marc: We're from Dallas.
647
,331 --> 00:26:49,159
Marc: You wouldn't leave the house without
648
,179 --> 00:26:49,901
Marc: putting your face on.
649
,831 --> 00:26:52,251
Marc: Was that kind of the same thing to be
650
,372 --> 00:26:53,896
Marc: dressed to have the makeup on, to you know
651
,916 --> 00:26:54,076
Marc: to?
652
,257 --> 00:26:57,352
Marc: Was that kind of the way that ladies more
653
,372 --> 00:26:58,976
Marc: or less operated in iraq?
654
,057 --> 00:27:00,320
Marc: It's not just leaving the house.
655
,440 --> 00:27:03,434
Shohreh: even in the house they're supposed to get
656
,474 --> 00:27:03,755
Shohreh: ready.
657
,456 --> 00:27:07,442
Shohreh: I, my aunt, for example my mother wasn't
658
,482 --> 00:27:08,531
Shohreh: that much, she wasn't there.
659
,571 --> 00:27:12,279
Shohreh: She was always reading or up to some new
660
,640 --> 00:27:14,223
Shohreh: kind of convention or whatever.
661
,650 --> 00:27:18,237
Shohreh: But my aunt would wake up at 5 am, one hour
662
,297 --> 00:27:21,523
Shohreh: before her husband, who was a general that
663
,563 --> 00:27:24,837
Shohreh: was going to wake up Because she was
664
,977 --> 00:27:25,559
Shohreh: beautiful.
665
,152 --> 00:27:27,090
Shohreh: She was beautiful.
666
,291 --> 00:27:30,582
Shohreh: My family side and my mother's side are
667
,683 --> 00:27:32,569
Shohreh: blonde, white and blonde because they're
668
,609 --> 00:27:36,157
Shohreh: coming from the north of Iran, and she was
669
,778 --> 00:27:37,359
Shohreh: like a doll.
670
,439 --> 00:27:40,491
Shohreh: But still she had to wake up at 5 am, comb
671
,511 --> 00:27:43,437
Shohreh: her hair, style it, put a nice lipstick on,
672
,757 --> 00:27:48,995
Shohreh: a little bit of rose on her cheeks, cheeks,
673
,562 --> 00:27:49,927
Shohreh: wear a nice dress.
674
,947 --> 00:27:51,776
Shohreh: And then they had, of course they had
675
,975 --> 00:27:54,697
Shohreh: domestic help.
676
,460 --> 00:27:58,559
Shohreh: She would just start putting everything on
677
,333 --> 00:28:01,273
Shohreh: the table and my aunt would make herself
678
,333 --> 00:28:03,398
Shohreh: like a doll and would sit on the breakfast
679
,842 --> 00:28:05,519
Shohreh: table waiting for her husband.
680
,843 --> 00:28:07,782
Shohreh: So when the husband sees her he would see
681
,822 --> 00:28:12,627
Shohreh: this beautiful lady in a nice dress sitting
682
,687 --> 00:28:14,316
Shohreh: at the table having breakfast with him.
683
,670 --> 00:28:15,713
Marc: You know, to kind of go back to what we
684
,733 --> 00:28:17,177
Marc: were talking about before, you know, in
685
,217 --> 00:28:20,913
Marc: 1978, 79, now, the position women have or
686
,973 --> 00:28:24,541
Marc: don't have in Iran, you know it must warm
687
,561 --> 00:28:26,913
Marc: your heart to see the young people
688
,973 --> 00:28:28,538
Marc: protesting, to kind of see, you know,
689
,558 --> 00:28:30,612
Marc: hopefully fingers crossed, moving the
690
,672 --> 00:28:31,516
Marc: needle, you know.
691
,593 --> 00:28:35,121
Marc: And how do you feel things are moving?
692
,612 --> 00:28:37,227
Marc: Do you feel there's movement in a good
693
,267 --> 00:28:39,383
Marc: direction or do you feel it's stagnated?
694
,423 --> 00:28:41,013
Marc: When you watch the news or you talk to
695
,073 --> 00:28:43,418
Marc: family, what's your perception of Iran in
696
,438 --> 00:28:45,389
Marc: 2024?
697
,011 --> 00:28:50,683
Shohreh: I wouldn't say that it has died down.
698
,691 --> 00:28:53,579
Shohreh: I would say it has gone underground.
699
,532 --> 00:28:59,280
Shohreh: Yes, in general, Iran is a lot quieter than
700
,340 --> 00:29:00,282
Shohreh: it used to be.
701
,343 --> 00:29:02,895
Shohreh: Last year the same time, when 1,500 young
702
,915 --> 00:29:06,583
Shohreh: people were killed on the surface of the
703
,603 --> 00:29:09,386
Shohreh: streets just because of having peaceful
704
,446 --> 00:29:10,050
Shohreh: demonstrations.
705
,070 --> 00:29:13,976
Shohreh: Just because of having a peaceful
706
,457 --> 00:29:15,759
Shohreh: demonstrations, it looks calmer.
707
,839 --> 00:29:25,112
Shohreh: But problem, the huge problem, the real
708
The Expanse
,212 --> 00:29:26,034
Shohreh: problem beneath all of these is the fact
709
,054 --> 00:29:30,683
Shohreh: that not until the whole world agrees with
710
,703 --> 00:29:32,714
Shohreh: the Iranian people, who are asking for
711
,775 --> 00:29:34,495
Shohreh: freedom, who are asking for a secular
712
,535 --> 00:29:38,714
Shohreh: society, would not happen until the whole
713
,774 --> 00:29:43,356
Shohreh: world agrees with them, until the world
714
,597 --> 00:29:49,319
Shohreh: stop buying Iranian oil for one third of
715
,360 --> 00:29:50,202
Shohreh: its real price.
716
,470 --> 00:29:53,739
Shohreh: Who wants to buy the oil for its real price
717
,830 --> 00:29:56,499
Shohreh: when they can buy it for half a price?
718
,210 --> 00:30:02,117
Shohreh: It's all about money, it's about a
719
,157 --> 00:30:06,855
Shohreh: strategic geographic position of Iran in
720
,875 --> 00:30:10,927
Shohreh: the region, and not until the world
721
,967 --> 00:30:14,899
Shohreh: realizes that they need to leave Iran alone.
722
,341 --> 00:30:17,774
Shohreh: Not just Iran, but all the countries that
723
,814 --> 00:30:18,856
Shohreh: have been occupied.
724
,477 --> 00:30:23,371
Shohreh: Leave them alone and let them go through
725
,391 --> 00:30:26,862
Shohreh: the same process as the others did and got
726
,942 --> 00:30:29,471
Shohreh: where we are right now turned into an
727
,531 --> 00:30:31,518
Shohreh: advanced technological country.
728
,052 --> 00:30:34,257
Shohreh: Let it be, let it live.
729
,611 --> 00:30:43,879
Marc: You know your studies in government.
730
,930 --> 00:30:45,275
Marc: You studied government, is what you said,
731
,295 --> 00:30:45,556
Marc: correct.
732
,450 --> 00:30:48,612
Shohreh: International relations, international
733
,632 --> 00:30:50,198
Shohreh: relations, political science, yeah.
734
,491 --> 00:30:52,640
Marc: I had to, I had to.
735
,112 --> 00:30:55,294
Marc: So that was kind of your, your journey to
736
,334 --> 00:30:58,125
Marc: kind of deconstruct and kind of figure out
737
,848 --> 00:31:00,394
Marc: how that makes sense to you, what was going
738
,574 --> 00:31:02,480
Marc: on, you know, or have it, maybe it didn't
739
,500 --> 00:31:02,621
Marc: mean.
740
,417 --> 00:31:07,382
Shohreh: Back to your question about the expense.
741
,931 --> 00:31:08,974
Shohreh: It's really interesting.
742
,636 --> 00:31:11,462
Shohreh: You were saying that deconstructing.
743
,170 --> 00:31:14,831
Shohreh: Had I not studied politics, I would have
744
,972 --> 00:31:18,253
Shohreh: never been able to put it off as well as
745
,393 --> 00:31:21,956
Shohreh: they say I did, because what I did the
746
,996 --> 00:31:25,497
Shohreh: first episode, when it arrived, I started
747
,538 --> 00:31:30,060
Shohreh: reading it and I started decoding it.
748
,290 --> 00:31:33,979
Shohreh: That's how I can portray my characters
749
,279 --> 00:31:39,697
Shohreh: decode what people say, decode the cities
750
,837 --> 00:31:42,042
Shohreh: or the names that have been put there
751
,951 --> 00:31:44,856
Shohreh: Fictional of course.
752
,250 --> 00:31:47,697
Shohreh: Try to find out what the writers or the
753
,757 --> 00:31:49,341
Shohreh: novelists are trying to tell you.
754
,697 --> 00:31:52,861
Shohreh: Where is this coming from?
755
,976 --> 00:31:58,302
Shohreh: This Martians, who could they stand for?
756
,402 --> 00:32:02,260
Shohreh: Martians, belters, earthers.
757
,950 --> 00:32:06,720
Shohreh: So when I started decoding them, I realized
758
,760 --> 00:32:08,874
Shohreh: what was going on, and then I started
759
,777 --> 00:32:11,712
Shohreh: working on my character, one of the things
760
,792 --> 00:32:12,935
Shohreh: I think was captured very well.
761
,975 --> 00:32:14,901
Marc: I'm not a Trekkie, I'm not a Star Trek guy,
762
,150 --> 00:32:16,713
Marc: but I appreciate Star Trek because it
763
,794 --> 00:32:20,261
Marc: really addressed real core human issues
764
,702 --> 00:32:24,115
Marc: through the spectrum of the sci-fi stuff
765
,957 --> 00:32:26,680
Marc: and that's something that I think you could
766
,781 --> 00:32:29,573
Marc: see the expanse many moons from now
767
,014 --> 00:32:31,739
Marc: actually being a real thing.
768
,839 --> 00:32:33,772
Marc: You know, colonizing Mars, people on Mars
769
,792 --> 00:32:33,992
Marc: going?
770
,032 --> 00:32:35,055
Marc: Wait a minute, why don't we have our
771
,437 --> 00:32:35,958
Marc: autonomy?
772
,018 --> 00:32:36,861
Marc: Why are we beholden?
773
,110 --> 00:32:40,399
Marc: And then for you it seemed like, as you
774
,419 --> 00:32:41,662
Marc: said, it made a lot of sense.
775
,830 --> 00:32:43,557
Marc: You know everybody's struggle, their
776
,577 --> 00:32:44,099
Marc: desires.
777
,690 --> 00:32:47,540
Marc: Would you say that the beginning of
778
,720 --> 00:32:48,343
Marc: Avasarala?
779
,423 --> 00:32:50,490
Marc: She was very political.
780
,871 --> 00:32:52,717
Marc: You know she was more of a political animal
781
,898 --> 00:32:54,573
Marc: early on and then evolved from there.
782
,593 --> 00:32:56,440
Marc: Would you say that's accurate, absolutely?
783
,183 --> 00:32:57,966
Shohreh: It's her journey.
784
,649 --> 00:33:00,312
Shohreh: I believe it's the journey of every
785
,372 --> 00:33:01,033
Shohreh: politician.
786
,776 --> 00:33:04,739
Shohreh: Let's take Margaret Thatcher for that
787
,180 --> 00:33:10,175
Shohreh: reason, and let's see how she started, what
788
,216 --> 00:33:14,094
Shohreh: she was trying to do, how she represented
789
,836 --> 00:33:18,091
Shohreh: the crown and where she ended up being, and
790
,151 --> 00:33:23,162
Shohreh: how once she was not liked by many but now
791
,322 --> 00:33:24,004
Shohreh: she's a hero.
792
,732 --> 00:33:28,230
Shohreh: It all depends on the politician's journey
793
,093 --> 00:33:30,478
Shohreh: and the way the novelists did it.
794
,790 --> 00:33:33,656
Shohreh: They did an amazing job because she takes a
795
,756 --> 00:33:36,135
Shohreh: real arc, as in real life.
796
,657 --> 00:33:38,753
Shohreh: She is a politician but at the same time
797
,013 --> 00:33:40,838
Shohreh: she's a mother, she's a wife.
798
,359 --> 00:33:43,518
Marc: Well, at the end of the day, the fact that
799
,539 --> 00:33:46,356
Marc: the mother aspect seemed to color, really,
800
,396 --> 00:33:47,199
Marc: that was what was.
801
,270 --> 00:33:48,161
Marc: Everything was floating on.
802
,181 --> 00:33:50,396
Marc: That experience, or the experience of your
803
,416 --> 00:33:53,136
Marc: son, by the way, if anybody hasn't seen the
804
,196 --> 00:33:55,708
Marc: expanse, if you're listening to this, uh,
805
,868 --> 00:33:59,196
Marc: spoilers everywhere but uh, but your, but
806
,216 --> 00:34:02,543
Marc: your son, but your son dying, really, I
807
,583 --> 00:34:04,294
Marc: think that not only influenced you but also
808
,334 --> 00:34:05,920
Marc: helped you connect to the other characters.
809
,311 --> 00:34:08,375
Marc: It was so well-written, you know it was so
810
,395 --> 00:34:10,319
Marc: because there was, there was an easy, was
811
,359 --> 00:34:12,223
Marc: an easy empathy that your character seemed
812
,243 --> 00:34:15,616
Marc: to have with even Frankie Adams' character.
813
,657 --> 00:34:19,235
Marc: You know, here's somebody who's a military
814
,296 --> 00:34:22,178
Marc: grunt, but you made a connection and you
815
,198 --> 00:34:24,936
Marc: know, ultimately, the relationship you had
816
,158 --> 00:34:27,494
Marc: with Wes Chatham's character was arguably
817
,534 --> 00:34:28,077
Marc: my favorite.
818
,097 --> 00:34:29,969
Marc: You know, I'm kind of wondering, you know.
819
,090 --> 00:34:33,552
Marc: Just, you know, calling you Chrissy, you
820
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Marc: know, like, how it evolved is such a Well
821
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Marc: written.
822
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Marc: Did you have any input?
823
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Marc: It seems like whoever was involved in
824
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Marc: wardrobe it seems like that kind of evolved.
825
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Marc: And there was more.
826
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Marc: It almost seemed like they were.
827
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Marc: Were they hooking into your own lineage,
828
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Marc: your own history and trying to?
829
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Marc: It seems like you were the, the, the
830
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Marc: jewelry, the wardrobe.
831
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Marc: It was bigger, it was.
832
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Marc: It was not loud that that vibrant, vibrant
833
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Marc: and larger.
834
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Marc: Yeah, did you have any discussion with them
835
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Marc: about that, about the way you were wanting
836
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Marc: to look and the way you were wanting to
837
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Marc: present?
838
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Shohreh: day one, when I went for a fitting with
839
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Shohreh: Joanne Hansen, our designer, the series
840
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Shohreh: designer, costume designer.
841
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Shohreh: As soon as I opened the door, the dress was
842
,518 --> 00:35:24,084
Shohreh: on the mannequin, the costume.
843
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Shohreh: I looked at it and I just bowed to her and
844
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Shohreh: I said what an amazing job you have done,
845
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Shohreh: what an amazing job.
846
,951 --> 00:35:37,874
Shohreh: East meets west here and this is what I
847
,075 --> 00:35:39,380
Shohreh: love about this costume.
848
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Shohreh: She looks at me and, very humble, she says
849
,873 --> 00:35:46,000
Shohreh: is there anything you'd like to add to it?
850
,750 --> 00:35:49,520
Shohreh: I'm like, oh boy, what a humble designer.
851
,210 --> 00:35:53,378
Shohreh: And I said, well, honestly, yeah, every
852
,418 --> 00:35:55,833
Shohreh: time, every single time, she was like what
853
,873 --> 00:35:56,295
Shohreh: would you like?
854
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Shohreh: If there's anything you would like to
855
,317 --> 00:36:01,622
Shohreh: change or add, please let me know.
856
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Shohreh: We'll do it by all means.
857
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Shohreh: And I looked at the outfit and I thought
858
,958 --> 00:36:07,720
Shohreh: the costume.
859
,780 --> 00:36:18,492
Shohreh: And I thought and I thought, well, with
860
,512 --> 00:36:19,873
Shohreh: this costume I am going to enter a pretty
861
,913 --> 00:36:20,353
Shohreh: dangerous area.
862
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Shohreh: And what I remember from Hitchcock's,
863
,115 --> 00:36:26,400
Shohreh: alfred Hitchcock's movies was that every
864
,440 --> 00:36:28,742
Shohreh: time there was going to be, a scene was
865
,762 --> 00:36:31,926
Shohreh: going to be dangerous or danger was about
866
,026 --> 00:36:44,492
Shohreh: to come, he would use the color red.
867
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Shohreh: He would use red.
868
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Shohreh: And I said I talked to Jordan about Alfred
869
,617 --> 00:36:49,319
Shohreh: Hitchcock's use of colors in his movies and
870
,339 --> 00:36:50,821
Shohreh: I said do you think we can just make her
871
,881 --> 00:36:54,206
Shohreh: cufflinks red or give her a red necklace
872
,810 --> 00:36:58,602
Shohreh: Because she's about to enter a dangerous
873
,703 --> 00:37:01,010
Shohreh: zone and I'd like to give the audience.
874
,351 --> 00:37:03,577
Shohreh: If the audience are familiar with
875
,597 --> 00:37:05,751
Shohreh: Hitchcock's movies, they would say why is
876
,771 --> 00:37:06,555
Shohreh: she wearing red?
877
,192 --> 00:37:09,317
Shohreh: Is this going to be dangerous?
878
,490 --> 00:37:10,977
Shohreh: Is this scene going to be dangerous, or
879
,017 --> 00:37:11,157
Shohreh: what?
880
,590 --> 00:37:14,634
Shohreh: She was always all the time and, to be
881
,694 --> 00:37:17,515
Shohreh: honest with you, I haven't seen anything
882
,756 --> 00:37:18,880
Shohreh: like her yet.
883
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Shohreh: I've worked almost 50 years now, half a
884
,659 --> 00:37:22,020
Shohreh: century.
885
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Shohreh: She is really one of a kind.
886
Praise for TV Show Characters
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Marc: I have to say, the whole show and they're
887
,952 --> 00:37:30,783
Marc: wonderful characters, such an incredible
888
,864 --> 00:37:31,310
Marc: ensemble.
889
,851 --> 00:37:33,496
Marc: It seems like there was a lot of love and
890
,556 --> 00:37:38,289
Marc: care put into your character by, like you
891
,309 --> 00:37:39,873
Marc: mentioned just the wardrobe and things like.
892
,893 --> 00:37:43,381
Marc: It's such an aesthetically interesting show
893
,441 --> 00:37:43,942
Marc: to watch.
894
,263 --> 00:37:45,372
Marc: It's so funny because there's a couple of
895
,412 --> 00:37:47,498
Marc: years ago I just happened upon it expanse.
896
,519 --> 00:37:48,991
Marc: I was like I'm gonna watch it one day, one
897
,011 --> 00:37:51,016
Marc: day and it's it grabbed me immediately and
898
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Marc: I have to say Officer Allah is the one,
899
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Marc: you're one of the main reasons I was pulled
900
,010 --> 00:37:58,033
Marc: into that ecosystem.
901
,394 --> 00:37:59,637
Marc: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
902
,098 --> 00:38:02,163
Shohreh: Thank you so much, but I have to tell you
903
,210 --> 00:38:02,551
Shohreh: something.
904
,111 --> 00:38:04,093
Shohreh: It's really interesting.
905
,153 --> 00:38:07,818
Shohreh: This show has received a lot of great
906
,979 --> 00:38:08,379
Shohreh: reviews.
907
,539 --> 00:38:11,263
Shohreh: I haven't even received one bad one, but my
908
,343 --> 00:38:17,039
Shohreh: favorite of them all is a real scientist
909
,041 --> 00:38:19,143
Shohreh: review and this show.
910
,631 --> 00:38:22,914
Shohreh: In two and a half pages he proves to you as
911
,974 --> 00:38:29,246
Shohreh: to why expense is the most accurate version
912
,367 --> 00:38:29,910
Shohreh: of the future.
913
,432 --> 00:38:33,253
Shohreh: If you're not being careful, keep polluting
914
,333 --> 00:38:34,739
Shohreh: our air and our oceans.
915
,471 --> 00:38:36,375
Shohreh: This is the end.
916
,631 --> 00:38:40,738
Shohreh: And you're right, because every time I read
917
,778 --> 00:38:43,012
Shohreh: the script I felt like my God, it sounds
918
,593 --> 00:38:45,941
Shohreh: supposedly 200 years, 300 years from now,
919
,570 --> 00:38:48,839
Shohreh: but it relatively speaks for today.
920
,611 --> 00:38:50,156
Shohreh: It is already happening.
921
,176 --> 00:38:51,085
Shohreh: Indeed, indeed, it's already happening.
922
,105 --> 00:38:52,834
Marc: Indeed, indeed, it's such a wonderful
923
,874 --> 00:38:55,417
Marc: analogy and metaphors and all, and I spoke
924
,437 --> 00:38:57,835
Marc: with Neil deGrasse Tyson about a little
925
,855 --> 00:38:58,478
Marc: over a year ago.
926
,951 --> 00:39:00,247
Marc: We're talking about our favorite sci-fi
927
,288 --> 00:39:02,859
Marc: shows, which one we thought got it right,
928
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Marc: and of course, neil deGrasse Tyson doesn't
929
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Marc: bite his tongue.
930
,651 --> 00:39:08,035
Marc: We were talking about the movie the Martian
931
,196 --> 00:39:11,153
Marc: with Matt Damon, but I mentioned the Ex,
932
,173 --> 00:39:12,558
Marc: the expanse, and I was wanting to get his
933
,578 --> 00:39:12,960
Marc: feedback.
934
,271 --> 00:39:14,876
Marc: He said it's on his list of things to see.
935
,278 --> 00:39:15,719
Marc: He hadn't seen it.
936
,810 --> 00:39:17,275
Marc: He was like you got to watch it, you got to
937
,295 --> 00:39:17,535
Marc: watch it.
938
,555 --> 00:39:18,278
Marc: We're going to talk again.
939
,318 --> 00:39:20,271
Marc: I want to get your feedback, what you think
940
,311 --> 00:39:20,711
Marc: about the.
941
,132 --> 00:39:23,515
Marc: You know, yes, some things there's creative
942
,575 --> 00:39:26,359
Marc: license taken, but the the show 24, but it
943
,379 --> 00:39:27,620
Marc: was about your son having a, the son thing.
944
,270 --> 00:39:33,613
Marc: I guess there's a through line.
945
,653 --> 00:39:35,838
Marc: But I I am curious about the 24 thing.
946
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Marc: I've spoken with, I think two, um, I've
947
,753 --> 00:39:42,979
Marc: spoken to folks who were on 24 that show.
948
,019 --> 00:39:45,384
Marc: I don't think people realize who a little
949
,424 --> 00:39:48,915
Marc: bit younger, how big 24 was for its time
950
,236 --> 00:39:50,017
Marc: unbelievable.
951
,037 --> 00:39:51,660
Shohreh: Unbelievable it was unbelievable.
952
,920 --> 00:39:53,623
Shohreh: We even had some problems with Iran.
953
,211 --> 00:40:00,541
Shohreh: Some politicians in Iran spoke against 24,
954
,670 --> 00:40:03,998
Shohreh: saying that where do they get these names
955
,099 --> 00:40:04,279
Shohreh: from?
956
,850 --> 00:40:07,760
Shohreh: I do remember there was a name involved.
957
,611 --> 00:40:11,536
Shohreh: One of the terrorists' name was Mansouri
958
,358 --> 00:40:15,071
Shohreh: and apparently there was one in Iran, and
959
,191 --> 00:40:16,794
Shohreh: they were like where did they get their
960
,875 --> 00:40:17,436
Shohreh: names from?
961
,897 --> 00:40:20,823
Shohreh: Why are they trying to make us look bad?
962
,491 --> 00:40:25,514
Shohreh: I remember they were very, very angry with
963
,574 --> 00:40:25,654
Shohreh: it.
964
,095 --> 00:40:29,740
Shohreh: But recently I heard that Gasem Soleimani,
965
,800 --> 00:40:33,004
Shohreh: the general who was killed in Iraq, used to
966
,585 --> 00:40:34,446
Shohreh: watch 24.
967
,630 --> 00:40:36,859
Shohreh: Apparently he was a fan of 24.
968
,471 --> 00:40:40,675
Shohreh: But most probably he realized while
969
,695 --> 00:40:43,279
Shohreh: watching that this Mansourie is for real
970
,339 --> 00:40:46,524
Shohreh: and who's given the US a tip that Mansourie
971
,604 --> 00:40:47,565
Shohreh: is in charge of this.
972
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Shohreh: So yeah, 24 was huge.
973
,411 --> 00:40:52,898
Shohreh: It has a cult in Japan.
974
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Marc: Yeah, still, you know, it's one of those
975
,897 --> 00:40:56,800
Marc: shows that you watched.
976
,272 --> 00:40:59,179
Marc: It was, you know, after 9-11.
977
,213 --> 00:41:02,230
Shohreh: It came on right about the right time.
978
,331 --> 00:41:03,991
Marc: People were thinking about terrorism being
979
,052 --> 00:41:04,935
Marc: a thing and not.
980
,955 --> 00:41:06,714
Marc: You know I've heard stories when they were
981
,774 --> 00:41:07,175
Marc: filming.
982
,195 --> 00:41:08,539
Marc: It was such a popular show it was kind of
983
,580 --> 00:41:09,221
Marc: hard to get you know.
984
,450 --> 00:41:15,931
Marc: Film on location.
985
,951 --> 00:41:17,013
Shohreh: There's so many people wanting to come
986
,033 --> 00:41:17,133
Shohreh: watch.
987
,153 --> 00:41:19,138
Shohreh: I am curious how did the 24 come to you?
988
,157 --> 00:41:21,622
Shohreh: I received an offer for 24 and they only
989
,642 --> 00:41:23,426
Shohreh: sent me the first two episodes.
990
,871 --> 00:41:28,341
Shohreh: I called my agent and I said I don't want
991
,361 --> 00:41:30,728
Shohreh: to get myself involved with something that
992
,768 --> 00:41:32,953
Shohreh: I have no idea how it is going to end.
993
,674 --> 00:41:36,279
Shohreh: Especially if I'm going to portray a
994
,339 --> 00:41:39,794
Shohreh: terrorist, I need to know what happens next.
995
,560 --> 00:41:43,687
Shohreh: The answer was they're not going to tell
996
,727 --> 00:41:45,690
Shohreh: you because they usually don't do that, and
997
,751 --> 00:41:46,431
Shohreh: I passed on it.
998
,511 --> 00:41:48,632
Shohreh: I said send my love and regards to them and
999
,652 --> 00:41:50,513
Shohreh: tell them I cannot get myself involved with
Speaker:1000
,733 --> 00:41:50,973
Shohreh: this.
Speaker:1001
,954 --> 00:41:57,617
Shohreh: Then they asked me to go in in person so
Speaker:1002
,657 --> 00:41:58,677
Shohreh: they can tell me the story.
Speaker:1003
,777 --> 00:42:02,119
Shohreh: I went in, they told me the story and how
Speaker:1004
,179 --> 00:42:04,240
Shohreh: it's going to end and I accepted it.
Speaker:1005
,720 --> 00:42:07,002
Marc: Which had to be difficult at that time to
Speaker:1006
Acting, Stories, and Future Projects
,082 --> 00:42:09,623
Marc: portray I mean in not a very savory way
Speaker:1007
,663 --> 00:42:11,124
Marc: people from that part of the world.
Speaker:1008
,204 --> 00:42:13,345
Marc: Did you ever get any?
Speaker:1009
,745 --> 00:42:14,806
Marc: I don't see backlash.
Speaker:1010
,826 --> 00:42:16,627
Marc: Did you get any people saying why are you
Speaker:1011
,667 --> 00:42:18,107
Marc: portraying, why are you maintaining
Speaker:1012
,147 --> 00:42:19,168
Marc: stereotypes or anything?
Speaker:1013
,208 --> 00:42:20,309
Marc: Did you ever get any of that?
Speaker:1014
,731 --> 00:42:25,421
Shohreh: Oh my God, a lot of those, a lot of those.
Speaker:1015
,461 --> 00:42:27,769
Shohreh: But the worst one of them all was Radio
Speaker:1016
,789 --> 00:42:30,375
Shohreh: Iran, kirn 6, 70 AM.
Speaker:1017
,856 --> 00:42:32,460
Shohreh: Every single morning, when I used to take
Speaker:1018
,500 --> 00:42:35,613
Shohreh: my daughter to school, I used to listen to
Speaker:1019
,794 --> 00:42:38,512
Shohreh: the news from Iran on this radio and all of
Speaker:1020
,532 --> 00:42:43,542
Shohreh: a sudden it started talking about the 24
Speaker:1021
,582 --> 00:42:44,724
Shohreh: that I'm playing a terrorist.
Speaker:1022
,431 --> 00:42:46,837
Shohreh: And they received calls.
Speaker:1023
,410 --> 00:42:49,337
Shohreh: The Iranians were saying that this is such
Speaker:1024
,377 --> 00:42:50,060
Shohreh: a stereotype.
Speaker:1025
,330 --> 00:42:52,736
Shohreh: She's making us look bad, blah, blah, blah,
Speaker:1026
,756 --> 00:42:53,076
Shohreh: blah.
Speaker:1027
,197 --> 00:42:54,881
Shohreh: To the point that I had to call them.
Speaker:1028
,950 --> 00:42:56,131
Shohreh: One day.
Speaker:1029
,171 --> 00:42:57,959
Shohreh: I took my daughter to school, came back
Speaker:1030
,019 --> 00:43:00,851
Shohreh: home, called them, asked them to put me on
Speaker:1031
,951 --> 00:43:01,111
Shohreh: air.
Speaker:1032
,212 --> 00:43:03,137
Shohreh: I said by law, you need to put me on air.
Speaker:1033
,578 --> 00:43:04,981
Shohreh: You keep talking behind my back.
Speaker:1034
,570 --> 00:43:06,091
Shohreh: Put me on air.
Speaker:1035
,731 --> 00:43:07,152
Shohreh: They did.
Speaker:1036
Portraying Multi-Layered Characters as an Actor
,232 --> 00:43:10,796
Shohreh: And I said first off, iranians, please do
Speaker:1037
,377 --> 00:43:13,880
Shohreh: realize that I'm an actress, I'm an actor.
Speaker:1038
,521 --> 00:43:17,284
Shohreh: The more multi-layered the character is,
Speaker:1039
,344 --> 00:43:19,426
Shohreh: the more I want to portray the character.
Speaker:1040
,110 --> 00:43:34,252
Shohreh: Stereotype is when there is a type out
Speaker:1041
,272 --> 00:43:35,074
Shohreh: there and you are the stereo.
Speaker:1042
,094 --> 00:43:35,815
Shohreh: There is no such type out there.
Speaker:1043
,835 --> 00:43:38,380
Shohreh: I created this woman from zilch, from zero.
Speaker:1044
,400 --> 00:43:40,363
Shohreh: We don't even have one out there that I
Speaker:1045
,424 --> 00:43:42,372
Shohreh: could take an example from.
Speaker:1046
,453 --> 00:43:45,636
Shohreh: I created this woman, I created this
Speaker:1047
,697 --> 00:43:50,542
Shohreh: character, the multi-layered character, the
Speaker:1048
,582 --> 00:43:52,725
Shohreh: terrorist, who is a woman, who is a wife,
Speaker:1049
,765 --> 00:43:57,235
Shohreh: who is a mother, who is, also, uh, believed
Speaker:1050
,275 --> 00:43:59,699
Shohreh: so much in her, in her mission and what
Speaker:1051
,719 --> 00:44:00,721
Shohreh: she's supposed to do.
Speaker:1052
,142 --> 00:44:03,471
Shohreh: So don't, don't do this to me.
Speaker:1053
,373 --> 00:44:05,977
Marc: And they stopped yeah, I think that's
Speaker:1054
,017 --> 00:44:07,481
Marc: difficult for some folks to see the
Speaker:1055
,581 --> 00:44:09,074
Marc: abstract that you know, I think some
Speaker:1056
,114 --> 00:44:12,791
Marc: characters are so vibrant and their badness
Speaker:1057
,932 --> 00:44:15,077
Marc: or whatever that, that people don't that
Speaker:1058
,097 --> 00:44:16,721
Marc: think that they forget you're an actor.
Speaker:1059
,142 --> 00:44:18,272
Marc: Maybe that's a good thing they forget
Speaker:1060
,292 --> 00:44:21,238
Marc: you're acting, you know, maybe that's a
Speaker:1061
,258 --> 00:44:23,731
Marc: good thing um, yeah, it reminds me of one
Speaker:1062
,751 --> 00:44:25,298
Marc: of the first books I read on acting, like
Speaker:1063
,318 --> 00:44:27,769
Marc: 25 years ago, michael cain's book acting in
Speaker:1064
,829 --> 00:44:28,030
Marc: film.
Speaker:1065
,230 --> 00:44:29,613
Marc: It's a small book and he said something
Speaker:1066
,633 --> 00:44:31,677
Marc: that it's always good if one of the PAs on
Speaker:1067
,717 --> 00:44:33,100
Marc: a set walks over to you and you're
Speaker:1068
,120 --> 00:44:35,124
Marc: rehearsing with another character and they
Speaker:1069
,170 --> 00:44:36,213
Marc: say, oh, I don't mean to interrupt your
Speaker:1070
,233 --> 00:44:36,915
Marc: conversation.
Speaker:1071
,437 --> 00:44:38,159
Marc: He said that's a good thing.
Speaker:1072
,199 --> 00:44:39,432
Marc: If they come over and they say, hey, I
Speaker:1073
,472 --> 00:44:41,157
Marc: don't mean to interrupt your rehearsal,
Speaker:1074
,899 --> 00:44:45,694
Marc: that's not as good because they know you're
Speaker:1075
,714 --> 00:44:45,874
Marc: acting.
Speaker:1076
,894 --> 00:44:50,922
Marc: But the experience of acting in 24 it was
Speaker:1077
,962 --> 00:44:52,624
Marc: it a fast-paced shooting schedule?
Speaker:1078
,664 --> 00:44:54,853
Marc: Just because it's the show, is it like at a
Speaker:1079
,893 --> 00:44:55,655
Marc: frenetic pace?
Speaker:1080
,856 --> 00:44:57,039
Marc: I mean, for lack of better way of putting
Speaker:1081
,079 --> 00:44:59,355
Marc: it, was it a fun show to shoot.
Speaker:1082
,475 --> 00:45:01,983
Shohreh: it was a fun show to shoot because every
Speaker:1083
,044 --> 00:45:04,892
Shohreh: single moment something new would happen in
Speaker:1084
,932 --> 00:45:08,238
Shohreh: 24 hours thousand, more than thousand
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Shohreh: things.
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Shohreh: So it was pretty fun 12 hours a day.
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Shohreh: We started 6 am sharp until 6 pm, and
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Shohreh: producers, they were all on the same page.
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Shohreh: We have to go home have dinner with our
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Shohreh: family, so should you.
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Shohreh: No matter what, we would stop at seven,
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Shohreh: even if we went overtime 10 to seven.
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Shohreh: Everyone had to put whatever they had in
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Shohreh: their hands down and leave.
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Shohreh: Yeah, that's how.
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Marc: that's how dedicated is Nestor Serrano is
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Marc: one of my Facebook friends, you know, so I
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Marc: always want to have a bunch.
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Shohreh: I love Nestor, I love Nestor.
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Shohreh: I kept telling him you're one of my
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Shohreh: favorite favorite uh film husbands, you
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Shohreh: know uh.
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Shohreh: So husbands, you're my, you're my favorite,
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Shohreh: you're one of the best, you're the best,
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Shohreh: you're the best.
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Shohreh: And then when they decided to kill him and
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Shohreh: have me carry on with with the mission, he
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Shohreh: came in, he goes.
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Marc: You loved me so much you had to kill me
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Marc: there was so much tension in that
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Marc: relationship because you knew the mission
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Marc: but you know the relationship, the husband
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Marc: wife, but you're the mother first and
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Marc: foremost it was.
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Marc: It was such a like.
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Marc: It's one of those shows.
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Marc: I've watched it.
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Marc: I watch it by myself, the whole series
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Marc: twice and at once with my kids.
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Marc: And during covid I mean we went through the
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Marc: whole lost series, we I don.
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Marc: It's probably unhealthy how many series we
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Marc: went through during COVID.
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Marc: But as far as your choices now, what you're
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Marc: looking to do because you've had iconic,
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Marc: very recognizable things you've done when
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Marc: you say, from this point forward, what kind
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Marc: of things are you looking for?
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Marc: What turns you on and grabs you, be it a
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Marc: film or TV or your decision-making process.
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Shohreh: From day one when I started acting, when I
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Shohreh: wanted to become an actor, was for the fact
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Shohreh: that I wanted to tell a story.
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Shohreh: I'm really a storyteller.
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Shohreh: It's the story that grabs me, no matter how
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Shohreh: small or big my role or my character's
Speaker:1137
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Shohreh: portrayal is in this film or that TV series.
Speaker:1138
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Shohreh: What's important to me is the story, if
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Shohreh: it's meaningful.
Speaker:1140
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Shohreh: With all due respect to all entertaining
Speaker:1141
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Shohreh: films and TV series, I watch them a lot and
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Shohreh: they make me feel good.
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Shohreh: But when I want to work, when I want to be
Speaker:1144
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Shohreh: a part of a movie or a film or a TV series,
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Shohreh: I would rather do something meaningful that
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Shohreh: at least makes sense to my own self,
Speaker:1147
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Shohreh: because sometimes when I'm watching a movie
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Shohreh: or series, I realize that actor is running
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Shohreh: his line but does not really know what he's
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Shohreh: talking about.
Speaker:1151
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Shohreh: I want to know what I'm talking about.
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Shohreh: That's why I'm looking for which?
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Shohreh: Mostly it's independent films Our hands are
Speaker:1154
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Shohreh: open to go for as deep as possible.
Speaker:1155
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Shohreh: Go for meaningful films.
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Shohreh: But I'm looking for meaningful, somewhat
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Shohreh: entertaining or even bizarre films.
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Shohreh: I remember that Christopher Walken was
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Shohreh: given an interview and the interviewer
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Shohreh: asked him as to why he likes to play all
Speaker:1161
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Shohreh: these weirdos, weird characters, and he
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Shohreh: takes a pause, a long pause, looks into the
Speaker:1163
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Shohreh: interviewer's eyes and he says young man, I
Speaker:1164
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Shohreh: started acting when I was six years old.
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Shohreh: Who would you like me to play now?
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Shohreh: The guy next door is absolutely right.
Speaker:1167
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Shohreh: We've been there, we've done that, we've
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Shohreh: tried it and now we're looking for
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Shohreh: something different.
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Marc: Well, as far as different was the expanse,
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Marc: was that your first foray into sci-fi, like
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Marc: I mean outside of voiceover and outside
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Marc: like see?
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Shohreh: no, actually the first one was, was x-men,
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Shohreh: x-men, the last stand oh, okay, okay, yeah,
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Shohreh: who was I speaking with the other day?
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Marc: we were discussing, like how everybody
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Marc: wanted the expanse to continue.
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Marc: It's.
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Marc: You know, it's one of those shows that
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Marc: ended definitely on a high note.
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Marc: You know, like we were talking about it is
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Marc: something you can conceive of being a real
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Marc: progression of society and what would be
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Marc: like a couple hundred years or how far in
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Marc: the future it is.
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Exploring The Character Avasarala from The Expanse
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Marc: But just generally, what was your favorite
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Marc: aspect of playing that character, avasarala?
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Marc: What was it that you really, if you look
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Marc: back and go, this is what made it really
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Marc: worthwhile to play her.
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Shohreh: What really attracted me to her was the
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Shohreh: fact that she was this powerful, strong
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Shohreh: woman, highly educated politician who also
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Shohreh: had a soft spot for humanity.
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Shohreh: The mixture of them both made me because,
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Shohreh: although Margaret Thatcher is one of my
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Shohreh: favorite politicians of all times, but
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Shohreh: still I wish that she had that soft spot
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Shohreh: for for when, when, when, when, when the
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Shohreh: right time comes to use it.
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Shohreh: But she didn't.
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Shohreh: She didn't have that soft spot.
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Marc: And that's something that really was
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Marc: interesting the empathy that kind of grew
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Marc: over time and the relationships and the,
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Marc: even the I mean there was a point in time
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Marc: there was a lot of physicality.
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Marc: Oh my God.
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Marc: Yes, you know you're no longer in these
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Marc: beautiful gowns and all this you're, I
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Marc: think, one episode you're being, you're in
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Marc: the spacesuit.
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Shohreh: Spacesuit, spacesuit, spacesuit.
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Shohreh: My God, all the crew loved me in the space
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Shohreh: suit Soon as I walked onto the set,
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Shohreh: everyone, everybody is saying that, wow,
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Shohreh: where space suit from now on?
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Shohreh: This suits you so well.
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Shohreh: And I loved it because I was a bit
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Shohreh: uncomfortable Leaving sorry, you know
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Shohreh: traditional Indian dresses that nearly
Speaker:1223
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Shohreh: covers all your body and changing into a
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Shohreh: spacesuit that shows every fine line in
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Shohreh: your body.
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Marc: But when they said when they cheered and
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Marc: they said it suits you, my problem was
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Marc: solved.
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Marc: You're looking at that and I think you were
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Marc: at that last time I was trying to.
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Marc: It suits you, my problem was solved.
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Shohreh: You're looking at that and I think you were
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Shohreh: at that Last time I was trying to speak
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Shohreh: with you.
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Shohreh: I think you were filming Renfield, I think,
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Shohreh: renfield, renfield.
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Shohreh: Where did y'all shoot that?
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Shohreh: New Orleans, it's the best place that this
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Shohreh: movie could have been made.
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Shohreh: At my first day off, I went out to buy some
Speaker:1241
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Shohreh: souvenirs for my daughter and friends and
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Shohreh: guess what?
Speaker:1243
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Shohreh: I found a beautiful box with a rosary in it,
Speaker:1244
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Shohreh: small Bible and a small bottle of water.
Speaker:1245
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Shohreh: Perhaps it was to shoo away the devil.
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Shohreh: And I thought do people still believe in
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Shohreh: this?
Speaker:1248
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Shohreh: And the shopkeeper said yes, in the
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Shohreh: audience we do.
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Marc: And I said bravo, we had to make this film
Speaker:1251
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Marc: here because people do believe in it where
Speaker:1252
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Marc: were you staying and, uh, when you were
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Marc: there, because I actually I that's where
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Marc: most of the acting I did, actually it was.
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Marc: I'm from dallas originally, but I've lived
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Marc: there for like on and off for about 25
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Marc: years, and then my youngest daughter
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Marc: graduated high school.
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Marc: Now we're in South Padre Island, texas.
Speaker:1260
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Marc: I need to get the beach life going on, but
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Marc: New Orleans is.
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Marc: It's so funny because I lived in the
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Marc: suburbs.
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Marc: But you know, people don't know there's
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Marc: really it's got a bunch of little areas,
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Marc: little micro pockets.
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Marc: Yeah, exactly, um, where were you staying
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Marc: when you were down there four seasons?
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Shohreh: hotel, but the problem was that it's it's
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Shohreh: one of the best four seasons is obviously
Speaker:1271
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Shohreh: hotels are the best.
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Shohreh: First night I go to sleep I, because the
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Shohreh: call is at 6 am and I go and I go to bed at
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Shohreh: 10 pm and I do all the ceremonial stuff
Speaker:1275
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Shohreh: that I need to do before going to sleep.
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Shohreh: And I try to sleep and all of a sudden I
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Shohreh: hear, you know, the roll drums and then the
Speaker:1278
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Shohreh: songs and I'm like what the hell is going
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Shohreh: on?
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Shohreh: I call the concierge and they said, oh,
Speaker:1281
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Shohreh: it's Magadie, we are having a festival, and
Speaker:1282
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Shohreh: I'm like three nights of that and then one
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Shohreh: night was calm and then the night after
Speaker:1284
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Shohreh: again drum rolls and stuff.
Speaker:1285
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Shohreh: They're singing.
Speaker:1286
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Shohreh: What's going on?
Speaker:1287
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Shohreh: It's March Madness, oh my God.
Speaker:1288
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Shohreh: They're so close Every single night and
Speaker:1289
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Shohreh: every day I went out, people, thousands of
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Shohreh: them, crowded streets, bustling, you know,
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Shohreh: and people are having fun.
Speaker:1292
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Shohreh: They're drinking on the face of the streets,
Speaker:1293
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Shohreh: they're smoking and going up and down
Speaker:1294
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Shohreh: having fun and I'm thinking, do these
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Shohreh: people work at all?
Speaker:1296
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Shohreh: Because they party at night, they go, what
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Shohreh: do they do?
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Shohreh: What do they do?
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Shohreh: But I loved it.
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Marc: I loved, loved it.
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Marc: One of the greatest places in the world to
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Marc: go for a long weekend.
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Marc: But living there it's a whole different
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Marc: story.
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Marc: It will say love, hate, we'll put it like
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Marc: that, but the food is good, can't complain
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Marc: about the food at all.
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Marc: But didn't you, during COVID, didn't you do
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Cooking Show During COVID
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Marc: a food web series, a cooking show of some
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Marc: sort, correct?
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Shohreh: Yes, yes, I was working still during the
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Shohreh: COVID.
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Shohreh: We did season six during the COVID.
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Shohreh: I remember every single morning we had to
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Shohreh: go for a poke.
Speaker:1316
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Shohreh: And then I thought I told a friend of mine.
Speaker:1317
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Shohreh: I said if they had told us that one day you
Speaker:1318
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Shohreh: need to do this before you go to work,
Speaker:1319
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Shohreh: somebody has to put something in up your
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Shohreh: nose I would have said no, thank you, I'm
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Shohreh: not going to do this.
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Marc: Yeah, I can't tell you the amount of
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Marc: interviews I've done when, at least a
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Marc: couple of times, somebody said oh, hang on,
Speaker:1325
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Marc: I got to go to my door.
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Marc: Somebody showed up to their front door in
Speaker:1327
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Marc: LA to give them their COVID test for the
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Marc: day.
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Marc: It was so funny because that was like a
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Marc: regular feature on my show that I had to
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Marc: edit out.
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Marc: You know, your cooking thing you did on the
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Marc: web.
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Marc: Now, is that mostly?
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Marc: What kind of food were you cooking?
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Marc: Persian.
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Shohreh: It wasn't.
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Shohreh: I only did three because I didn't have time
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Shohreh: as much.
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Shohreh: I only did three All Persian food and
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Shohreh: mostly rice-based, because Americans have
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Shohreh: recently discovered rice and they're loving
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Shohreh: it.
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Shohreh: They started loving it I remember 30 years
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Shohreh: ago.
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Shohreh: Every time I put rice on my table for my
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Shohreh: American friends, they weren't very happy
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Shohreh: about it.
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Shohreh: They were more happy with chickens and, you
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Shohreh: know, kebabs and stuff.
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Shohreh: But now it's the rice that finishes first.
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Shohreh: So yeah, it was mostly rice-based.
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Marc: Well, that actually brings me to something
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Marc: I like to ask.
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Marc: I call it my seven questions, which is just
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Marc: a little extra fun I like to have, and I
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Marc: got to know.
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Marc: The first question I always like to ask my
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Marc: guests because I'm a food nerd, I love food,
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Marc: love cooking is what is your favorite
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Marc: comfort food?
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Marc: What is for you that thing?
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Marc: That's just.
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Marc: If you have an amazing day, you want it.
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Marc: If you've had a bad day, it makes you feel
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Marc: better.
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Marc: What is that food?
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Marc: Pasta, any kind of pasta.
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Marc: Yeah, I'd say that's a pretty high batting
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Marc: average.
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Marc: Most people like a pasta of some sort.
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Marc: I do have to ask, though, as far as Persian
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Marc: food, what is kind of the like an iconic?
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Marc: If you were to go and have Persian food,
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Marc: you gotta have.
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Marc: Like, if you say Greek food, souvlaki or
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Marc: pasticcio or whatever.
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Marc: But if I said Persian food, what is
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Marc: something that's on the Mount Rushmore of
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Marc: Persian food?
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Marc: You've gotta try.
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Shohreh: Something that my friends, my American
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Shohreh: friends, love, British and American gourmet
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Shohreh: sabzi.
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Shohreh: Gourmet is gourmet, Sabzi is vegetable.
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Shohreh: Gourmet sabzi means a celebration of all
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Shohreh: kind of vegetables, many kind of vegetables.
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Shohreh: Gourmet sabzi this is.
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Shohreh: I mean.
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Shohreh: Westerners love it.
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Shohreh: They love it.
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Shohreh: Where do you live?
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Shohreh: Maybe I can cook it for you.
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Shohreh: Where are you?
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Shohreh: Where do you live?
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Shohreh: Maybe I can cook it for you.
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Shohreh: Where are you, when do you live?
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Marc: That's so sweet.
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Marc: I'm actually on South Padre Island, texas,
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Marc: right at the very tip, just a matter of a
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Marc: few miles from Mexico, actually.
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Marc: So, no, I've been looking for my Jimmy
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Marc: Buffett lifestyle.
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Marc: God bless you.
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Marc: But that's so sweet, you know, maybe I
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Marc: could get a recipe from you.
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Marc: I love the challenge of new recipes, and
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Marc: then I always do them by the book at first,
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Marc: but I always play with it after that.
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Marc: I always kind of like put my little spin on
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Marc: it.
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Marc: You know, of course no matter what.
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Shohreh: Of course, it's really interesting.
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Shohreh: I keep learning myself.
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Shohreh: The other day I was trying to make a
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Shohreh: dessert which very much like Persian
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Shohreh: dessert and the instructions said that I
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Shohreh: had to put one and a half glass of sugar in
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Shohreh: it, which I did At the beginning.
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Shohreh: When I try to copy them, I go exactly what
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Shohreh: they tell me to do.
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Shohreh: I do that, but then I noticed it was too
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Shohreh: sweet.
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Shohreh: Next time I make it I would use only one
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Shohreh: cup of sugar, not one and a half cups.
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Shohreh: You're right, we need to have our own
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Shohreh: modifications, no matter what.
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Marc: It's improvisation, the way I look at it,
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Marc: when you're right, we need to have our own
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Marc: modifications, no matter what.
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Marc: It's improvisation in the way I look at it
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Marc: when you're cooking.
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Marc: That's the reason why I'm not a baker I
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Marc: can't do the baking thing because it's too
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Marc: reggie but I like the free form of just a
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Marc: little, this little, that One of the
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Marc: questions I had.
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Marc: The second question of my seven is if you
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Marc: could sit down with three people and talk
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Marc: story over coffee uh, living or not who
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Marc: would those three people be that you would
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Marc: love to sit down and have conversation and
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Marc: coffee for hours?
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Shohreh: um, check out, antoine, check off.
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Shohreh: This man had so much, so much to tell, and
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Shohreh: I love the way he looks at life, his
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Shohreh: stories are so human.
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Marc: It all kind of started with him, chekhov
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Marc: kind of started the whole Stanislavski,
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Marc: even Meisner.
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Shohreh: Yeah indeed, and what I love about him is
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Shohreh: that in his stories, everybody is innocent,
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Shohreh: but yet, at the same time, everybody could
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Shohreh: be blamed for their wrongdoings.
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Shohreh: Just in real life.
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Shohreh: They invented the Antoine Chacov and who
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Shohreh: else Sadhguru?
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Shohreh: Sadhguru is an Indian philosopher.
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Shohreh: I keep watching his clips, listening to his
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Shohreh: podcasts and I learn a lot from him.
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Marc: Okay, I think I might know who that is
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Marc: actually.
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Shohreh: Tell you who else here in Hollywood, he has
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Shohreh: a lot of fans, but the one who is very,
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Shohreh: very much all the time with him or tries to
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Shohreh: be with him is Will Smith.
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Shohreh: Oh, okay, okay, because of Will, he even
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Shohreh: came to Los Angeles to visit him.
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Shohreh: He rides a motorbike.
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Shohreh: He travels with a motorbike around the
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Shohreh: world.
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Shohreh: He's an amazing, amazing person, a
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Shohreh: philosopher.
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Shohreh: Philosophy of life.
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Shohreh: If you want to hear real, real stuff, uh,
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Shohreh: it's either him or uh rajnish, those two.
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Shohreh: But guru, sadguru is to me it's more
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Shohreh: relative I know who you're talking about.
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Marc: Yeah, he's, he's, he's uh, I want to say a
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Marc: young guy, but he's probably in his 60s,
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Marc: maybe so you know roughly yes, 65, 66.
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Shohreh: Yeah, he is okay.
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Shohreh: And the third person would definitely be
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Shohreh: tarkovsky.
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Shohreh: I never got to talk to him.
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Shohreh: I went to his uh, he had a uh, what was it?
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Shohreh: It was when I was studying back in London,
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Shohreh: it was I don't remember the college that he
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Shohreh: was giving a speech at, but I went to see
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Shohreh: him and everybody got to ask their
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Shohreh: questions.
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Shohreh: But as soon as I started asking questions,
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Shohreh: time was up.
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Shohreh: So I need to see him again and talk to him
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Shohreh: and ask him a couple of great questions
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Shohreh: that I have.
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Shohreh: So what about you?
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Shohreh: I'm dying to see the three, the three
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Shohreh: people that you would oh, you know it's.
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Marc: You're the first person I ever asked,
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Marc: because I?
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Marc: Uh, tuesday is, I'm taking my cup of coffee.
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Marc: Now I would love to talk to Sheree
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Marc: Agdashloo.
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Marc: Oh, I'm, I'm doing that.
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Marc: No, um, the?
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Marc: Uh, you know I was.
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Marc: I've always been a fan.
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Marc: When I when I worked on the radio in LA, I
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Marc: would.
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Marc: I lived in Encinitas, the North County of
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Marc: San Diego, and I would always do the same
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Marc: thing.
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Marc: I'd always go through In-N-Out Burger, get
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Marc: a chocolate shake and just head South and
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Marc: I'd always listen to Alan Watts.
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Marc: Uh, on a radio, I think Radio Pacifica.
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Marc: You know the philosopher, alan Watts, I
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Marc: think he died like roughly 1973 or so.
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Marc: He was kind of a pop culture philosopher,
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Marc: for lack of a better way of putting it.
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Marc: I would like, you know, I would love to sit
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Marc: down with my grandfather, who passed back
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Marc: about actually almost exactly 20 years ago.
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Marc: I'm just I'm just realizing that and just
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Marc: kind of catch up, bring them up to speed,
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Marc: because it's always when people, you know,
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Marc: it's one of those things about growing up
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Marc: you don't realize the questions you should
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Marc: ask until they're gone sometimes.
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Marc: You know those questions, those poor family,
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Marc: yes, yes, yes, but not just questions.
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Shohreh: Take pictures of them.
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Shohreh: Every time I think about the good moments
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Shohreh: that I had with them and I did not preserve
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Shohreh: it by either taking a picture or taking a
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Shohreh: note or something.
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Shohreh: Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
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Shohreh: Okay, second one.
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Marc: But there's a following Nolan Ryan, who is
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Marc: the pitcher for the Texas Ranger.
Speaker:1542
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Marc: He's asking somebody you know, someone who
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Marc: has performed at the highest level you can
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Marc: reach, and those people that make it
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Marc: somehow seem effortless.
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Marc: Those are the interesting ones to speak
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Marc: with, because you know they're still
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Marc: putting in work.
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Marc: They just make it look effortless.
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Marc: Yes, the thinkers, you know.
Speaker:1551
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Marc: It's so funny.
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Marc: I was thinking about this the other day and
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Marc: now I can't think of the, of who it was I
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Marc: was thinking of as I was putting this
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Marc: together, and I always ask this question
Speaker:1556
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Marc: it's the philosophers, the people who maybe
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Marc: give you, have you think a different way
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Marc: than you have before, that kind of help you
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Marc: grow and remind you, no matter your age,
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Marc: you can still grow.
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Marc: Yeah, no, no, those kinds of people are
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Marc: always fascinating.
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Marc: I gotta, I gotta think about that, cause I
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Marc: always ask this question.
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Marc: Uh, I know my grandfather's always on there.
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Marc: Alan Watts and, of course, the sports thing.
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Marc: I'm going to have to think about that for a
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Marc: moment.
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Marc: I should be able to answer my own questions
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Marc: better.
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Marc: Um, but, uh, but the oh, thank you, thank
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Marc: you.
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Marc: The next question.
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Marc: And when you were young, who was your very
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Marc: first celebrity crush?
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Marc: You know someone you saw as like oh you
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Marc: know, they stole your heart, they
Speaker:1578
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Marc: captivated you, they had you intrigued.
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Marc: Who would that be?
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Marc: I would say Richard Burton.
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Marc: Richard Burton, oh, okay, of course.
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Marc: Well, that begs the question was there
Speaker:1583
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Marc: anybody that you ever in Iran, or you came
Speaker:1584
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Marc: over here that you would like?
Speaker:1585
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Marc: You just admired them and you just, you
Speaker:1586
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Marc: just adore them and you had the opportunity
Speaker:1587
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Marc: to work with them, besides Sir Ben Kingsley,
Speaker:1588
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Marc: of course.
Speaker:1589
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Marc: But was there anybody else you got a chance
Speaker:1590
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Marc: to work with and you were like you had been
Speaker:1591
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Marc: admiring them from afar for a long time of?
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Shohreh: course, first and foremost, is Sandra
Speaker:1593
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Shohreh: Bullock.
Speaker:1594
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Shohreh: Loved working with her when I came here.
Speaker:1595
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Shohreh: Uh, they kept referring to her as the girl
Speaker:1596
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Shohreh: next door and I was wondering what does it
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Shohreh: mean?
Speaker:1598
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Shohreh: She is the girl next.
Speaker:1599
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Shohreh: As soon as I started working with her, we
Speaker:1600
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Shohreh: were all the time together because she
Speaker:1601
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Shohreh: believes in interacting as well, because
Speaker:1602
,005 --> 01:05:42,252
Shohreh: real actors do not believe in acting only.
Speaker:1603
,981 --> 01:05:45,481
Shohreh: It's about although we call it acting, but
Speaker:1604
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Shohreh: it's about interacting.
Speaker:1605
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Shohreh: It takes two to tango.
Speaker:1606
,200 --> 01:05:50,727
Shohreh: We are having a conversation here.
Speaker:1607
,082 --> 01:05:51,966
Shohreh: I am not on my own.
Speaker:1608
,600 --> 01:05:55,189
Shohreh: Therefore, you need to work with me.
Speaker:1609
,340 --> 01:05:57,808
Shohreh: You need to give me something so I can give
Speaker:1610
,848 --> 01:05:58,530
Shohreh: you something back.
Speaker:1611
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Marc: They say acting is reacting.
Speaker:1612
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Shohreh: Acting is reacting and she's the one I mean
Speaker:1613
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Shohreh: it's in her DNA.
Speaker:1614
Working With Keanu Reeves and Creativity
,221 --> 01:06:09,186
Shohreh: And also Keanu Reeves.
Speaker:1615
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Shohreh: Loved working with that gentleman.
Speaker:1616
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Shohreh: Loved working with him.
Speaker:1617
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Shohreh: It's unbelievable, incredible working with
Speaker:1618
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Shohreh: him.
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Marc: Yeah, well, you know that's actually to
Speaker:1620
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Marc: answer.
Speaker:1621
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Marc: He's on a short list, the three people to
Speaker:1622
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Marc: sit down with you.
Speaker:1623
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Marc: Look at the arc of his career but also the
Speaker:1624
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Marc: way he's chosen to live his life and he
Speaker:1625
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Marc: does have kind of an interesting way of
Speaker:1626
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Marc: living, by example and kind of his.
Speaker:1627
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Marc: You know, I never had a chance to work or
Speaker:1628
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Marc: meet, meet him, work with or meet him, but
Speaker:1629
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Marc: he seems like he'd be a wonderful person to
Speaker:1630
,963 --> 01:06:40,247
Marc: sit down with and just kind of pick his
Speaker:1631
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Marc: brain.
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Shohreh: Um, incredible incredible, no matter what.
Speaker:1633
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Shohreh: Inside out, what I loved about him?
Speaker:1634
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Shohreh: Uh, obviously he's a star, but he doesn't
Speaker:1635
,553 --> 01:06:52,477
Shohreh: consider himself as a star, he considers
Speaker:1636
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Shohreh: himself as a humble actor.
Speaker:1637
,903 --> 01:06:56,709
Shohreh: I could say that from the way he behaves.
Speaker:1638
,502 --> 01:07:00,723
Shohreh: He never dashed in with his entourage,
Speaker:1639
,405 --> 01:07:03,546
Shohreh: never was late, always on time, if not
Speaker:1640
,686 --> 01:07:06,542
Shohreh: early, never dashed out with his entourage,
Speaker:1641
,602 --> 01:07:10,370
Shohreh: even during the change of lights.
Speaker:1642
,782 --> 01:07:12,443
Shohreh: He would just grab a chair, take it to a
Speaker:1643
,483 --> 01:07:14,322
Shohreh: corner, sit there, wait for the lights to
Speaker:1644
,382 --> 01:07:14,682
Shohreh: change.
Speaker:1645
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Shohreh: He wouldn't just make a huge exit and he
Speaker:1646
,652 --> 01:07:21,461
Shohreh: was just incredible to work with.
Speaker:1647
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Marc: You know you've had the opportunity to see
Speaker:1648
,807 --> 01:07:24,228
Marc: some things.
Speaker:1649
,489 --> 01:07:25,921
Marc: You know you said the huge exit.
Speaker:1650
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Marc: I've only been on a handful of sets but
Speaker:1651
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Marc: I've never seen the big exit before.
Speaker:1652
,191 --> 01:07:32,403
Marc: I kind of want to be on a movie set now and
Speaker:1653
,443 --> 01:07:33,325
Marc: see this big exit.
Speaker:1654
,347 --> 01:07:37,252
Marc: I'm sure you've seen people who will remain
Speaker:1655
,312 --> 01:07:39,722
Marc: nameless, but I didn't realize that was a
Speaker:1656
,802 --> 01:07:42,469
Marc: thing to create a spectacle on your way out.
Speaker:1657
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Shohreh: I've seen a couple of those, and now I am
Speaker:1658
,982 --> 01:07:46,963
Shohreh: leaving.
Speaker:1659
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Marc: With a flourish yes.
Speaker:1660
,990 --> 01:07:52,913
Marc: Now the next question I've got for you is
Speaker:1661
,953 --> 01:07:54,375
Marc: if you're going to be on an exotic island,
Speaker:1662
,460 --> 01:07:55,543
Marc: somewhere that you actually want to be
Speaker:1663
,564 --> 01:07:57,470
Marc: you're not a castaway, but there's no
Speaker:1664
,530 --> 01:08:01,469
Marc: internet you can bring a CD of an album, a
Speaker:1665
,509 --> 01:08:02,532
Marc: DVD of a movie.
Speaker:1666
,860 --> 01:08:05,768
Marc: So an album and a movie, something you can
Speaker:1667
,808 --> 01:08:06,972
Marc: watch for a full year.
Speaker:1668
,560 --> 01:08:08,946
Marc: You're going to be on an island for a year.
Speaker:1669
,006 --> 01:08:09,548
Marc: What would that be?
Speaker:1670
,660 --> 01:08:11,526
Marc: Something you could watch and listen to
Speaker:1671
,627 --> 01:08:12,430
Marc: over and over again?
Speaker:1672
,220 --> 01:08:14,084
Shohreh: Frank Sinatra.
Speaker:1673
,566 --> 01:08:15,349
Shohreh: I did it my way.
Speaker:1674
,341 --> 01:08:18,982
Shohreh: I can listen to that song for hours because
Speaker:1675
,166 --> 01:08:21,630
Shohreh: I can relate to it really well.
Speaker:1676
,940 --> 01:08:23,146
Shohreh: I did it my way.
Speaker:1677
,361 --> 01:08:25,366
Shohreh: Indeed, you did yes.
Speaker:1678
,964 --> 01:08:31,022
Shohreh: And for a movie that I can watch not
Speaker:1679
,042 --> 01:08:34,030
Shohreh: year-round, but every couple of times a
Speaker:1680
,070 --> 01:08:34,271
Shohreh: week.
Speaker:1681
,002 --> 01:08:38,846
Shohreh: My Beautiful Life.
Speaker:1682
,120 --> 01:08:39,642
Marc: Now real quick.
Speaker:1683
,662 --> 01:08:40,827
Marc: I didn't ask you about your daughter.
Speaker:1684
,721 --> 01:08:45,107
Marc: Little side note is she in acting as well,
Speaker:1685
,187 --> 01:08:47,071
Marc: or is she in the industry, or she went a
Speaker:1686
,091 --> 01:08:47,653
Marc: different direction?
Speaker:1687
,180 --> 01:08:49,205
Shohreh: She's in the industry.
Speaker:1688
,300 --> 01:08:51,762
Shohreh: She started directing at Chapman University
Speaker:1689
,702 --> 01:08:54,364
Shohreh: and now she's doing minimal jobs.
Speaker:1690
,464 --> 01:08:56,205
Shohreh: Of course, you know how long it takes for a
Speaker:1691
,166 --> 01:09:02,549
Shohreh: female to become directors in Hollywood, so
Speaker:1692
,130 --> 01:09:04,391
Shohreh: she's taking her sweet time.
Speaker:1693
,272 --> 01:09:09,114
Shohreh: Yeah, she's making short films, inexpensive
Speaker:1694
,134 --> 01:09:13,717
Shohreh: short films, music videos, whatever she can
Speaker:1695
,757 --> 01:09:14,598
Shohreh: do to get there.
Speaker:1696
,061 --> 01:09:16,526
Marc: It's got to be nice, though you know where
Speaker:1697
,546 --> 01:09:17,389
Marc: you can compare notes.
Speaker:1698
,282 --> 01:09:19,785
Marc: You know I don't think any of my kids are
Speaker:1699
,805 --> 01:09:22,431
Marc: going to choose what I do you know anything
Speaker:1700
,491 --> 01:09:24,663
Marc: remotely like that, but it's got to be kind
Speaker:1701
,703 --> 01:09:25,786
Marc: of nice to be able to have.
Speaker:1702
,007 --> 01:09:27,511
Marc: I'm assuming she lives in LA as well.
Speaker:1703
,221 --> 01:09:28,602
Shohreh: She does.
Speaker:1704
,662 --> 01:09:31,268
Shohreh: Yes, not with me, but yeah, she's in LA.
Speaker:1705
,328 --> 01:09:33,413
Shohreh: Yes, to be honest with you, I didn't want
Speaker:1706
,320 --> 01:09:36,324
Shohreh: my daughter, I didn't want to force her to
Speaker:1707
,384 --> 01:09:40,553
Shohreh: follow up my life or do similar stuff that
Speaker:1708
,613 --> 01:09:44,144
Shohreh: I did in life, but obviously daughters go
Speaker:1709
,265 --> 01:09:47,329
Shohreh: after their mothers no matter what.
Speaker:1710
,070 --> 01:09:53,259
Shohreh: So she was 16 when she said that she wanted
Speaker:1711
,299 --> 01:09:55,806
Shohreh: to study directing and I told her my
Speaker:1712
,967 --> 01:09:56,349
Shohreh: reasons.
Speaker:1713
,480 --> 01:09:58,086
Shohreh: I said you won't have a life.
Speaker:1714
,166 --> 01:09:58,648
Shohreh: You know that.
Speaker:1715
,100 --> 01:10:00,706
Shohreh: You know how many times I missed your
Speaker:1716
,747 --> 01:10:01,309
Shohreh: birthdays.
Speaker:1717
,980 --> 01:10:04,687
Shohreh: You know how many times I missed going to
Speaker:1718
,707 --> 01:10:06,392
Shohreh: the reunions with my parents.
Speaker:1719
,161 --> 01:10:09,887
Shohreh: There's a lot that you have to sacrifice
Speaker:1720
,948 --> 01:10:10,128
Shohreh: for.
Speaker:1721
,100 --> 01:10:12,925
Marc: Plus, being a director, you're married to
Speaker:1722
,985 --> 01:10:15,321
Marc: something for a full year at least, whereas
Speaker:1723
,722 --> 01:10:17,822
Marc: actors, you know, got it easy you show up
Speaker:1724
,882 --> 01:10:19,408
Marc: for your thing and you're done.
Speaker:1725
,005 --> 01:10:23,929
Marc: Where directors, that's a marriage almost
Speaker:1726
,989 --> 01:10:24,591
Marc: for a year.
Speaker:1727
,851 --> 01:10:27,568
Marc: At least a year it is, it is no matter what.
Speaker:1728
,346 --> 01:10:29,621
Marc: The next question I got for you if you were
Speaker:1729
,641 --> 01:10:31,684
Marc: to define from the time you get up until
Speaker:1730
,785 --> 01:10:33,728
Marc: the time you put your head on the pillow at
Speaker:1731
,808 --> 01:10:36,613
Marc: night, if you were to define a perfect day
Speaker:1732
,954 --> 01:10:38,544
Marc: you know the component parts, the things
Speaker:1733
,784 --> 01:10:40,529
Marc: that make up a perfect day for you what
Speaker:1734
,569 --> 01:10:41,392
Marc: would those things be?
Speaker:1735
,220 --> 01:10:47,167
Shohreh: A perfect day If I'm not working, I'm at
Speaker:1736
,227 --> 01:10:47,447
Shohreh: home.
Speaker:1737
,048 --> 01:10:50,511
Shohreh: Perfect day for me is when nobody needs me.
Speaker:1738
,032 --> 01:10:51,833
Shohreh: I'm not needed.
Speaker:1739
,574 --> 01:10:55,342
Shohreh: I'm not supposed to be anywhere at a
Speaker:1740
,382 --> 01:10:56,204
Shohreh: certain time.
Speaker:1741
,489 --> 01:10:58,789
Marc: You know what.
Speaker:1742
,070 --> 01:11:00,372
Marc: You're the first person to ever say that,
Speaker:1743
,392 --> 01:11:02,906
Marc: but I feel that so much, Thank you.
Speaker:1744
,528 --> 01:11:05,575
Marc: I'm going to remember that idea where you
Speaker:1745
,595 --> 01:11:07,681
Marc: were not obligated to anything and you can
Speaker:1746
,722 --> 01:11:07,922
Marc: just.
Speaker:1747
,343 --> 01:11:10,007
Marc: Yes, I appreciate that Exactly.
Speaker:1748
,549 --> 01:11:11,491
Shohreh: I can live my life.
Speaker:1749
,073 --> 01:11:15,361
Shohreh: Have you ever noticed that while walking on
Speaker:1750
,421 --> 01:11:17,526
Shohreh: a street, you see people who are walking
Speaker:1751
,827 --> 01:11:19,852
Shohreh: towards a certain direction and then all of
Speaker:1752
,892 --> 01:11:20,701
Shohreh: a sudden, they stop?
Speaker:1753
,981 --> 01:11:24,027
Shohreh: They turn around and stop walking back
Speaker:1754
,648 --> 01:11:27,914
Shohreh: backward uh, going back to where they were
Speaker:1755
,974 --> 01:11:31,928
Shohreh: before and you wonder, my god, you are so
Speaker:1756
,108 --> 01:11:33,672
Shohreh: lucky, you don't have to do anything,
Speaker:1757
,732 --> 01:11:35,884
Shohreh: you're just wandering around exploring
Speaker:1758
,984 --> 01:11:37,808
Shohreh: ideas, going up the street.
Speaker:1759
,849 --> 01:11:39,673
Shohreh: Now, down the street is scrolling down.
Speaker:1760
,360 --> 01:11:42,748
Shohreh: You have the luxury to do that, but I don't
Speaker:1761
,809 --> 01:11:43,370
Shohreh: have the luxury.
Speaker:1762
,431 --> 01:11:46,461
Shohreh: I have to be somewhere at 11, 30 am, no
Speaker:1763
,481 --> 01:11:47,684
Shohreh: matter what, and I don't want to be but
Speaker:1764
,724 --> 01:11:49,549
Shohreh: isn't that the most creative that you can
Speaker:1765
,649 --> 01:11:49,790
Shohreh: be?
Speaker:1766
,910 --> 01:11:51,927
Marc: I, I know I had a golden retriever who
Speaker:1767
,007 --> 01:11:53,656
Marc: actually passed about a year ago, and we
Speaker:1768
,696 --> 01:11:55,962
Marc: would go for walks and some of my best
Speaker:1769
,103 --> 01:11:59,689
Marc: thinking ideas I'd come up with and just go
Speaker:1770
,729 --> 01:12:01,031
Marc: for meandering.
Speaker:1771
,372 --> 01:12:02,594
Marc: You know, no real plan.
Speaker:1772
,914 --> 01:12:03,155
Shohreh: Yes.
Speaker:1773
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Marc: And that's kind of an analogy for kind of
Speaker:1774
,804 --> 01:12:05,964
Marc: like.
Speaker:1775
,044 --> 01:12:08,368
Marc: I find I'm the most creative when I'm not
Speaker:1776
,568 --> 01:12:11,493
Marc: on the clock, when I don't have a you know
Speaker:1777
,513 --> 01:12:12,094
Marc: a regimen.
Speaker:1778
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Marc: I can kind of daydream, if you will, of
Speaker:1779
,243 --> 01:12:16,127
Marc: course, because you allow yourself.
Speaker:1780
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Shohreh: You allow yourself to sit down and pay
Speaker:1781
,503 --> 01:12:23,409
Shohreh: attention to your thoughts, inner thoughts,
Speaker:1782
,509 --> 01:12:24,331
Shohreh: what is going on.
Speaker:1783
,972 --> 01:12:27,602
Shohreh: But when you're working, your attention is
Speaker:1784
,702 --> 01:12:28,183
Shohreh: scattered.
Speaker:1785
,223 --> 01:12:29,446
Shohreh: You're not able to do that.
Speaker:1786
,568 --> 01:12:32,913
Shohreh: Obviously, we're far more creative when we
Speaker:1787
,000 --> 01:12:34,946
Shohreh: are on our own and we're not in a hurry,
Speaker:1788
,749 --> 01:12:38,557
Shohreh: we're not under pressure or stress and we
Speaker:1789
,598 --> 01:12:40,484
Shohreh: can freely explore ideas.
Speaker:1790
,664 --> 01:12:43,132
Marc: Yeah, so the day starts for you with no
Speaker:1791
,192 --> 01:12:44,316
Marc: real obligations.
Speaker:1792
,838 --> 01:12:46,804
Marc: What are you liking to fill your day with?
Speaker:1793
,825 --> 01:12:49,695
Marc: Not fill your day, but what are those
Speaker:1794
,775 --> 01:12:51,622
Marc: component things that are making it a great
Speaker:1795
,662 --> 01:12:52,205
Marc: day for you?
Speaker:1796
,245 --> 01:12:54,263
Marc: Besides not, you know, you can actually
Speaker:1797
,323 --> 01:12:56,167
Marc: turn your phone off if you want, you know
Speaker:1798
,490 --> 01:12:59,561
Marc: and that that I am afraid I cannot do.
Speaker:1799
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Shohreh: Maybe none of us can do that, but, uh, an
Speaker:1800
,827 --> 01:13:07,833
Shohreh: ideal day would be, uh, for me to walk.
Speaker:1801
,154 --> 01:13:11,465
Shohreh: I I walk a lot here around our house.
Speaker:1802
,545 --> 01:13:14,250
Shohreh: It's beautiful, it has really nice steps,
Speaker:1803
,270 --> 01:13:16,054
Shohreh: you know, up and down, up and down.
Speaker:1804
,980 --> 01:13:21,103
Shohreh: It helps a lot, you know, when I start
Speaker:1805
,124 --> 01:13:23,187
Shohreh: working and if the weather allows, I would
Speaker:1806
,227 --> 01:13:23,948
Shohreh: love to swim.
Speaker:1807
,289 --> 01:13:27,474
Shohreh: I'm a swimmer really like an hour a day, 45
Speaker:1808
,514 --> 01:13:34,362
Shohreh: minutes a day, and I think that's the best,
Speaker:1809
,422 --> 01:13:35,404
Shohreh: best, best thing that one can do for
Speaker:1810
,424 --> 01:13:37,448
Shohreh: themselves, because when you swim from head
Speaker:1811
,488 --> 01:13:38,891
Shohreh: to toe, you just try to, you know, move
Speaker:1812
,931 --> 01:13:40,234
Shohreh: your body in every which way.
Speaker:1813
,441 --> 01:13:44,628
Shohreh: And I could read a couple of pages of my
Speaker:1814
,668 --> 01:13:48,301
Shohreh: favorite book that is next to my bed, or
Speaker:1815
,321 --> 01:13:52,892
Shohreh: play solitaire, which I love, and that's my
Speaker:1816
,912 --> 01:13:53,513
Shohreh: guilty pleasure.
Speaker:1817
,600 --> 01:13:55,466
Marc: I'm getting a feeling you really appreciate
Speaker:1818
,506 --> 01:13:57,563
Marc: your alone time, you appreciate being in
Speaker:1819
,583 --> 01:13:59,470
Marc: your own bubble when you can be.
Speaker:1820
,421 --> 01:14:02,307
Marc: I gather you appreciate that a lot because
Speaker:1821
,367 --> 01:14:05,165
Marc: you are working so much that you do savor
Speaker:1822
,205 --> 01:14:05,787
Marc: those moments.
Speaker:1823
,827 --> 01:14:06,630
Shohreh: Maybe that's why.
Speaker:1824
,301 --> 01:14:09,627
Shohreh: Maybe that's why because I work a lot when
Speaker:1825
,687 --> 01:14:11,211
Shohreh: I'm alone, when I'm home, when I'm not
Speaker:1826
,231 --> 01:14:14,608
Shohreh: doing anything, I try to savor as much as I
Speaker:1827
,689 --> 01:14:18,743
Shohreh: can, and I usually do and I have a feeling
Speaker:1828
,763 --> 01:14:21,830
Shohreh: that while you have a zest for life, I have
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Shohreh: a zest for life, no matter what.
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Shohreh: Whether I'm on the stage set or at home,
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Shohreh: you want to be kind of alert, pay attention
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Shohreh: to everything that is going on in your own
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Shohreh: small world and to be able to just sit down
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Shohreh: and discover and talk you know, explore
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Shohreh: ideas.
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Shohreh: It's a lot easier to do that rather than
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Shohreh: when you're working.
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Marc: Well, we're talking about those people that
Speaker:1839
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Marc: I would love to sit down with, and I
Speaker:1840
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Marc: mentioned alan watts and he I remember one
Speaker:1841
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Marc: of the things he talked about.
Speaker:1842
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Marc: He says if we're talking about living in
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Marc: the moment and how, how we don't do that,
Speaker:1844
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Marc: we're always planning for the next thing.
Speaker:1845
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Marc: He said, if you're always planning, you are
Speaker:1846
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Marc: never in this moment, and so that's one of
Speaker:1847
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Marc: those things I tried to, for myself, do is
Speaker:1848
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Marc: just kind of stop even the decision of
Speaker:1849
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Marc: living.
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Marc: You know, just taking a walk on the beach.
Speaker:1851
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Marc: It's like you push everything else to the
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Marc: side and you're just there.
Speaker:1853
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Marc: And you mentioned taking a walk and that's
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Marc: still one of my favorite things to do.
Speaker:1855
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Marc: I don't, you know, I got it which means I
Speaker:1856
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Marc: have to get another puppy or another dog,
Speaker:1857
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Marc: because without a dog, I don't walk nearly
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Marc: as much dog because without a dog I don't
Speaker:1859
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Marc: walk nearly as much you have to, you have
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Marc: to.
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Marc: The next question I got is if you weren't
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Marc: doing this, if this was not your career or
Speaker:1863
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Marc: vocation, what else could you see yourself?
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Shohreh: doing Teacher From day one.
Speaker:1865
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Shohreh: I wanted to be a teacher.
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Marc: Yeah, Anything in particular, that you
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Marc: would like to teach or discuss.
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Shohreh: Not necessarily.
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Shohreh: It depends on where I am, what I'm doing,
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Shohreh: what's necessary to teach, because I have
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Shohreh: this urge in me that whatever I have
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Shohreh: learned, I need to pass it on.
Speaker:1873
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Shohreh: I gave my first Farsi-speaking masterclass
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Shohreh: in Toronto last week and I always do it for
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Shohreh: free because I learned acting for free, and
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Shohreh: that's why I think it depends on who you
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Shohreh: are, where you are, uh, and you know kind
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Shohreh: of how you would like to be in life.
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Marc: Yeah, I think that probably evolves over
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Marc: time, based on what you've learned and what
Speaker:1881
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Marc: you know you can share and who you meet and
Speaker:1882
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Marc: who you think you can benefit from.
Speaker:1883
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Marc: Exactly because they swear they say about
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Marc: acting it's like everybody that I don't
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Marc: really.
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Marc: They say steals, you don't really steal.
Speaker:1887
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Marc: But it's all kind of a constant evolution.
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Marc: You know you're learning from others who
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Marc: learn from people before them.
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Shohreh: Oh my god if, when we get to that, we
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Shohreh: really have to mention that most of the
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Shohreh: Western literature is based on Bible.
Speaker:1893
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Shohreh: It's been inspired by Bible.
Speaker:1894
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Shohreh: Look at Inmar Bergman's works.
Speaker:1895
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Shohreh: They're all, each and every one of them is
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Shohreh: inspired by the Bible, so that is totally
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Shohreh: understandable.
Speaker:1898
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Shohreh: It doesn't matter.
Speaker:1899
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Shohreh: We learn from one another.
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Shohreh: We're not copying one another, we just
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Shohreh: learn from one another.
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Marc: Yeah, and Sherry, and I think that helps
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Marc: you to be a more empathetic person and
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Marc: appreciate the people around you.
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Shohreh: But it's just.
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Acting, Imagination, and Life Lessons
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Shohreh: You know small stuff that they don't teach
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Shohreh: you at universities, at colleges,
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Shohreh: universities at colleges, like, for example,
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Shohreh: in this Masterclass what I said to my
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Shohreh: pupils were the fact that acting, creating
Speaker:1911
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Shohreh: at the time of creation, all you need to do
Speaker:1912
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Shohreh: is to be honest with yourself, is to think
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Shohreh: thoroughly, is to go in and bring it from
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Shohreh: within.
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Shohreh: You cannot just pretend that you know the
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Shohreh: answer to the question you're asking
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Shohreh: yourself.
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Shohreh: Give yourself some time and then come up
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Shohreh: with.
Speaker:1920
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Shohreh: Then you can come up with something
Speaker:1921
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Shohreh: tangible, something that you can pass on.
Speaker:1922
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Shohreh: Pass on, Like, for example, I told him that
Speaker:1923
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Shohreh: staying in the moment all depends on
Speaker:1924
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Shohreh: listening and watching.
Speaker:1925
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Shohreh: We say I watched a movie and we say I saw a
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Shohreh: movie.
Speaker:1927
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Shohreh: When we say I saw, meaning that I didn't
Speaker:1928
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Shohreh: watch it.
Speaker:1929
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Shohreh: For example, I tell you, do you remember
Speaker:1930
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Shohreh: the scene where he slaps his wife and you
Speaker:1931
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Shohreh: say, nah, is there such a scene?
Speaker:1932
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Shohreh: I don't remember Because you weren't paying
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Shohreh: attention entirely to this.
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Marc: I think that's why a lot of people do say
Speaker:1935
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Marc: that going to the theater you really want
Speaker:1936
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Marc: to watch something because you're not at
Speaker:1937
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Marc: home distracted as much.
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Marc: So there's a zen to going to the theater as
Speaker:1939
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Marc: opposed to being at home and you're less
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Marc: distracted from other stuff.
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Shohreh: And you're less distracted from other stuff
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Shohreh: and you're really watching it.
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Shohreh: Yeah and again, if you're disciplined and
Speaker:1944
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Shohreh: if you have a lot of imagination at your
Speaker:1945
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Shohreh: disposal as actors have, no matter what you
Speaker:1946
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Shohreh: just sit down, watch television and you,
Speaker:1947
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Shohreh: you think that you are in, uh, in a cinema
Speaker:1948
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Shohreh: watching this, and everywhere is dark.
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Shohreh: That's the power of imagination that we
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Shohreh: have at our disposal.
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Marc: It's funny whenever we watch a movie, my
Speaker:1952
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Marc: son, he's the one that's like can we turn
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Marc: the lights off?
Speaker:1954
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Marc: You know he's like yeah that does create a
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Marc: focus.
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Marc: You know, yes, yes.
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Marc: Now, the last question I've got for you is
Speaker:1958
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Marc: if you were to jump back to the future, the
Speaker:1959
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Marc: DeLorean, and you go back in time to 16
Speaker:1960
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Marc: year old you you've got a few minutes with
Speaker:1961
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Marc: you what's a piece of advice that you would
Speaker:1962
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Marc: offer yourself to either put you on a
Speaker:1963
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Marc: better path or maybe make the moment you're
Speaker:1964
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Marc: in better in some way?
Speaker:1965
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Marc: But what would be that piece of advice that
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Marc: you'd like to offer yourself, 16 year old
Speaker:1967
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Marc: you?
Speaker:1968
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Shohreh: Be brave, but be careful.
Speaker:1969
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Shohreh: Be a strong, but don't be a stupid.
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Shohreh: Be understanding, but don't get yourself
Speaker:1971
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Shohreh: involved with people's stories.
Speaker:1972
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Shohreh: Try to understand them.
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Shohreh: Try not to get involved.
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Shohreh: Do not stop.
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Marc: I think that's what your 20s is for.
Speaker:1976
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Marc: Your 20s is a lesson to those things you
Speaker:1977
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Marc: just mentioned to really try and master
Speaker:1978
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Marc: that.
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Marc: Which I did with myself.
Speaker:1980
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Marc: Well, I think that's part of growing.
Speaker:1981
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Marc: I saw something the other day that, for a
Speaker:1982
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Marc: guy, if you don't look back on yourself in
Speaker:1983
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Marc: your early 20s and think what an idiot, you
Speaker:1984
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Marc: haven't grown at all.
Speaker:1985
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Marc: I don't know how true that is.
Speaker:1986
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Marc: I have those intermittent cringe moments.
Speaker:1987
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Marc: I'm like, did I do that?
Speaker:1988
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Marc: Did I say that, god, I was knucklehead Marc.
Speaker:1989
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Shohreh: I saw a clip.
Speaker:1990
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Shohreh: I saw a clip last night.
Speaker:1991
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Shohreh: It's a picture of a young man with his
Speaker:1992
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Shohreh: shirt open too much open with hair and
Speaker:1993
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Shohreh: stuff, stuff, and a medallion right here
Speaker:1994
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Shohreh: with a lot of hair, and the guy, who is now
Speaker:1995
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Shohreh: in his 60s, says antony.
Speaker:1996
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Shohreh: The caption said I wish I was, I wish this
Speaker:1997
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Shohreh: guy was still alive.
Speaker:1998
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Shohreh: I, I wish I could visit myself back then
Speaker:1999
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Shohreh: and give him a good slap for this style
Speaker:2000
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Shohreh: it's also the times you lived in.
Speaker:2001
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Marc: You know, like I know that it's so funny.
Speaker:2002
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Marc: My grandmother always said that she held on
Speaker:2003
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Marc: all of her fashions.
Speaker:2004
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Marc: She was my grandfather.
Speaker:2005
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Marc: You know women's fashions as well.
Speaker:2006
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Marc: You know he worked in that industry and she
Speaker:2007
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Marc: said if you hold on to it long enough, the
Speaker:2008
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Marc: style comes back around she's right, she's
Speaker:2009
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Marc: right.
Speaker:2010
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Marc: I so adore you and I appreciate you taking
Speaker:2011
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Marc: time out to just spend some time with me
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Marc: today.
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Marc: That means so much to me.
Speaker:2014
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Marc: I know you're so busy.
Speaker:2015
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Marc: I wanted to connect with you over the last
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Marc: year and a half, I think, since I started
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Marc: this show, but I know you're fortunate in
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Marc: being so busy with fun work, so I'm very
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Marc: just elated for you.
Speaker:2020
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Marc: It's so ironic that we spoke Majority of my
Speaker:2021
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Marc: day spent doing voiceover and I know you do
Speaker:2022
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Marc: wonderful voiceover and characters and
Speaker:2023
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Marc: stuff we didn't have.
Speaker:2024
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Marc: Maybe, maybe for another day we'll have a
Speaker:2025
,261 --> 01:22:05,209
Marc: chance to discuss that, but now you know I
Speaker:2026
,470 --> 01:22:05,952
Marc: have a mission.
Speaker:2027
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Marc: I'm going to go try to find a good recipe
Speaker:2028
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Marc: for gourmet Sabzi.
Speaker:2029
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Marc: Is that how you?
Speaker:2030
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Shohreh: say it.
Speaker:2031
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Shohreh: Yes, gourmet sabzi.
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Shohreh: If you need anything, you have my email.
Speaker:2033
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Shohreh: Drop me an email, please, and I send you
Speaker:2034
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Shohreh: the ingredients.
Speaker:2035
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Shohreh: I mean, I send you the recipe.
Speaker:2036
,672 --> 01:22:26,374
Shohreh: There may not be certain kind of
Speaker:2037
,714 --> 01:22:28,856
Shohreh: ingredients there, I can always post it for
Speaker:2038
,896 --> 01:22:31,358
Shohreh: you, but first let me send it to you.
Speaker:2039
,518 --> 01:22:34,228
Marc: Sure, again, I appreciate your time.
Speaker:2040
,620 --> 01:22:36,566
Marc: I know you're very busy and I'm glad we
Speaker:2041
,586 --> 01:22:38,652
Marc: finally have a chance to connect Me too.
Speaker:2042
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Marc: But have a wonderful day, enjoy a nice swim,
Speaker:2043
,044 --> 01:22:45,809
Marc: a cup of coffee or tea, and I look forward
Speaker:2044
,829 --> 01:22:47,853
Marc: to catching up with you down the line Me
Speaker:2045
,873 --> 01:22:48,514
Marc: too, Marc.
Speaker:2046
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Shohreh: You take care of yourself.
Speaker:2047
,600 --> 01:22:51,866
Shohreh: My love and regards to the family.
Speaker:2048
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Marc: All right, there you go.
Speaker:2049
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Marc: The lovely, the talented Shoray Agadashloo
Speaker:2050
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Marc: Really enjoyed chatting with her.
Speaker:2051
,903 --> 01:23:03,168
Marc: I've wanted to have Shoray on for some time
Speaker:2052
,110 --> 01:23:05,942
Marc: and finally got a chance to sit down and
Speaker:2053
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Marc: chat with her, and it got a great recipe
Speaker:2054
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Marc: out of the deal.
Speaker:2055
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Marc: I mean, how can you go wrong?
Speaker:2056
,901 --> 01:23:11,444
Marc: You know me love doing some cooking.
Speaker:2057
,185 --> 01:23:14,509
Marc: Hey, by the way, again, if you would cruise
Speaker:2058
,589 --> 01:23:17,334
Marc: right on over to whatever podcast app you
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Marc: use, make sure you subscribe to the show.
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Marc: That way you get notified every single time
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Marc: we have a new episode.
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Marc: Pop up Also, like, leave a review, throw
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Marc: some stars at me.
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Marc: Whatever you want to do, depending on your
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Marc: platform you use to listen to the show,
Speaker:2066
,345 --> 01:23:35,670
Marc: Don't forget storyandcraftpod.com.
Speaker:2067
,091 --> 01:23:38,334
Marc: Once again, storyandcraftpod.com.
Speaker:2068
,374 --> 01:23:40,282
Marc: It's how you find out everything you could
Speaker:2069
,322 --> 01:23:41,745
Marc: possibly want to know about the show.
Speaker:2070
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Marc: So pop on over there and just check it out.
Speaker:2071
,681 --> 01:23:46,864
Marc: All right, so I'm going to get on out of
Speaker:2072
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Marc: here.
Speaker:2073
,064 --> 01:23:48,547
Marc: I'm going to go hit the beach, do a little
Speaker:2074
,607 --> 01:23:50,991
Marc: walk, and I want you to have yourself a
Speaker:2075
,232 --> 01:23:51,753
Marc: rock star.
Speaker:2076
,813 --> 01:23:53,522
Marc: Rest of your day, rest of your week,
Speaker:2077
,602 --> 01:23:55,026
Marc: weekend, whatever you're doing.
Speaker:2078
,126 --> 01:23:57,532
Marc: Thank you for sharing some time with me
Speaker:2079
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Shohreh Aghdashloo
Actress | Author | Activist | Voiceover Artist
Academy Award Nominee · Emmy Award Winner
Shohreh Aghdashloo is an Emmy Award-winning, Oscar-nominated actress. Her prolific work on stage and screen has been lauded for decades in both her native Iran and worldwide, especially in her adopted home, the United States. American audiences know her best from her Oscar-nominated performance in “House Of Sand And Fog” and her Emmy-winning role in HBO’s acclaimed “House Of Saddam.”
As a diverse talent and voice-over artist, Shohreh has moved between television, film, and theatre with much ease. In 2012, Shohreh dazzled critics while portraying the title character in the legendary Federico Garcia Lorca’s final theatrical play, “House Of Bernarda Alba,” in London at the famed Almeida Theatre.
Shohreh has voiced characters for the video games Mass Effect, Destiny, and animated TV series like Arcane. She also has narrated audiobooks like "The Bible of Clay" by Julia Navarro, "And the Mountains Echoed" by Khaled Hosseini, and "Until We Are Free: My Fight for Human Rights in Iran" by Shirin Ebadi.
Aghdashloo’s prestigious TV credits include: “The Expanse”, “24”, “The Flight Attendant,” “Grimm,” “Grey’s Anatomy,” “House MD,” “Law & Order: SVU,” “Will & Grace,” among many others. Shohreh’s work in film includes blockbusters such as: “Star Trek: Beyond,” “X-Men - The Last Stand,” and “The Lake House.”