Jennifer Morrison | From “House” to Peacock’s “Dr. Death” | Inspiration is Everywhere

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Jennifer: happened to me more than once where, like,

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Jennifer: I've sat in the dentist office and like,

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Jennifer: picked up the coffee table book and like

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Jennifer: the images in that book become inspiration

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Jennifer: for something I'm shooting.

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

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Announcer: Now there's your host, Marc Preston.

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Marc: Alright, here we go another episode of

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Marc: Story and Craft.

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Marc: Thank you so much for stopping back by.

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Marc: Hey, if this is your first episode, hi, I'm

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Marc: Marc Preston and today we're all going to

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Marc: sit down and have a conversation with the

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Marc: lovely, the talented Jennifer Morrison,

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Marc: been acting since she was 13 years old.

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Marc: You probably know her as an adult actor in

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Marc: TV shows like House.

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Marc: This is us once upon a time how I met your

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Marc: mother.

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Marc: But the cool thing about Jennifer she is

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Marc: also a very accomplished TV director Done

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Marc: film as well, but you probably know

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Marc: projects she's worked on like Euphoria, joe

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Marc: Pickett.

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Marc: So right now she's directed a number of

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Marc: episodes for the new season of Doctor Death.

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Marc: Just rolled out the new season on Peacock.

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Marc: She is a blast to speak with about the

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Marc: industry.

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Marc: It's kind of a micro master class in the TV

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Marc: Today it's Jennifer Morrison Day, right

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Marc: here on Story and Craft.

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Marc: Where are you located right now?

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Jennifer: I'm in Los Angeles.

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Marc: Is that where you're originally from?

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Marc: Are you a California kid?

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Jennifer: I mean, I've lived here longer than

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Jennifer: anywhere else, but I grew up in the Chicago

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Jennifer: suburbs and then I moved to Los Angeles in

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Jennifer: 2000.

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Marc: Now, well, I always have to ask people from

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Marc: the Chicago area Lou, malnotti's or

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Marc: Giardano's which one is your place?

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Jennifer: Lou Malnotti's.

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Jennifer: Yeah, malnotti's, for sure.

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Marc: I was looking over a little bit of your

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Marc: obviously wonderful acting career, the

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Marc: directing thing.

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Marc: Was that always like a conscious thing,

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Marc: where you always like I want to direct

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Marc: someday, or is it just kind of a natural

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Marc: evolution over time throughout your career?

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Jennifer: Yeah, I have to say it's a little bit of

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Jennifer: both.

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Jennifer: I started directing theater really young.

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Jennifer: I started directing community theater when

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Jennifer: I was in high school.

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Jennifer: The very first production I ever directed

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Jennifer: was the who's Tommy at the Community

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Jennifer: Theater near me, which was an aggressive

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Jennifer: first production.

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Jennifer: And then when I went to college I directed

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Jennifer: some theater and even when I moved out to

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Jennifer: LA I directed some theater and then I got

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Jennifer: cast on the show House and my life became

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Jennifer: 20 hours a day for six years.

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Jennifer: That was my life and so I wasn't directing

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Jennifer: as much.

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Jennifer: But what I was realizing was that I could

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Jennifer: use set as a way to learn all the technical

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Jennifer: stuff, to potentially be a filmmaker as

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Jennifer: well.

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Jennifer: So I really had that experience of

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Jennifer: directing theater and then used being on

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Jennifer: set for House and Warrior and how I met

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Jennifer: your mother, and once upon a time I kind of

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Jennifer: just used all those sets as my film school

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Jennifer: in terms of asking people questions and

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Jennifer: really studying the technical side of

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Jennifer: things.

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Marc: I look at the director.

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Marc: I mean you're really picking things up from

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Marc: way before the production starts to well

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Marc: after.

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Marc: I mean it's almost like being an actor is

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Marc: way easier of a gig.

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Marc: It seems like, you know, because you show

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Marc: up for your day, you do your thing and you

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Marc: get to go home, you know, and TV is a

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Marc: pretty aggressive production schedule.

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Marc: It seems like it is.

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Marc: Kind of going back to the beginning on

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Marc: origin story type thing.

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Marc: Were you?

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Marc: You said you directed community theater in

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Marc: high school?

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Marc: Were you a theater kid or were you?

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Marc: Was theater always your thing, or were you

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Marc: kind of going I want to be on TV one day,

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Marc: or movies.

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Jennifer: No, theater was my thing.

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Jennifer: You're right, that was a good guess.

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Jennifer: Yes, I was a theater kid.

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Jennifer: I loved being on stage.

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Jennifer: I was going to Saturday school like

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Jennifer: creative Saturday school things that I

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Jennifer: don't remember what it was actually called,

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Jennifer: but we would just call it Saturday school

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Jennifer: where I was doing plays there and then did

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Jennifer: all the school plays and all the plays in

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Jennifer: high school and the musicals and all that

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Jennifer: stuff.

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Jennifer: So that was really where my heart was and

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Jennifer: that's ultimate.

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Jennifer: I majored in theater and English in college,

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Jennifer: so, yeah, so for me my life really sent

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Jennifer: around theater and Loyola in Chicago, which

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Jennifer: ended up being a really great school for me

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Jennifer: to go to.

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Marc: Did they have a pretty robust program?

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Marc: Or when you came out of school, were you?

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Marc: Were you focusing on just doing local

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Marc: Or, again, what were you up to after your

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Marc: Loyola time?

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Jennifer: Well, so part of the reason I ended up at

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Jennifer: Loyola and, like I said, really happy I

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Jennifer: ended up there, I had I really appreciate

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Jennifer: the education I got there was because they

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Jennifer: were willing to let me work as an actor

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Jennifer: while I was there.

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Jennifer: And I was already working as an actor

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Jennifer: because I did my first film when I was 13

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Jennifer: and I already had representation and stuff.

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Jennifer: So I wanted to go to a school that was

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Jennifer: going to let me continue my career, whereas,

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Jennifer: like you know, I'd gotten into Northwestern

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Jennifer: and DePaul and other schools that I really

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Jennifer: admired and thought maybe I'd want to go to,

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Jennifer: but they were conservatory programs where

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Jennifer: they weren't going to let you work

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Jennifer: professionally while you were actually in

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Jennifer: school.

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Jennifer: And Loyola was not a conservatory program

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Jennifer: and they also had really wonderful

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Jennifer: professors there at the time for theater

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Jennifer: and there was no graduate program.

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Jennifer: So it meant that as an undergraduate I

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Jennifer: didn't have to compete with graduate

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Jennifer: students for roles and so it gave me an

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Jennifer: opportunity to really be actually on stage

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Jennifer: acting a lot more.

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Jennifer: And, like I said, because I had an agent

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Jennifer: and had already sort of gotten into the

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Jennifer: industry before that, I did three films.

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Jennifer: I was in three films while I was in college

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Jennifer: and they really accommodated the schedule

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Jennifer: to help me do that.

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Jennifer: And so when I graduated I really didn't

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Jennifer: make a decision because my heart was that I

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Jennifer: really wanted to go to New York and try to

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Jennifer: be on stage.

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Jennifer: But I also knew how lucky I was that I had

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Jennifer: an agent in Los Angeles and that I sort of

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Jennifer: had, you know, a little bit of a head start,

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Jennifer: having been a kid actor, and I was like I

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Jennifer: think I need to do LA while I'm young and

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Jennifer: hope that, you know, whatever success comes

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Jennifer: from that, or experience comes from that,

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Jennifer: will also lend me the opportunity to

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Jennifer: eventually go to New York.

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Jennifer: And so, luckily, that is what happened.

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Jennifer: I mean, I ended up having a place in New

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Jennifer: York for 12 years and I've done plays in

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Jennifer: New York as well now, but I just did it a

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Jennifer: little bit later.

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Jennifer: You know, I went to LA first once I

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Jennifer: graduated.

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Marc: When you were 13.

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Marc: What kind of role was this?

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Marc: Was this a movie or was it a TV show?

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Jennifer: Yeah, so I played Richard Geer and Sharon

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Jennifer: Stone's daughter in the film Intersection

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Jennifer: and Marc Rydell was the director and Vilmos

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Jennifer: Zygman was the cinematographer.

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Jennifer: It was like a really wild, amazing group of

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Jennifer: just veteran everything to be introduced to

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Jennifer: that world through.

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Jennifer: I think Marc Rydell had just come off of

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Jennifer: directing on Golden Pond and you know

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Jennifer: Vilmos Zygman has shot all he you know,

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Jennifer: shot some of the most epic movies ever.

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Jennifer: But yeah, so I and I got that from making a

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Jennifer: tape in Chicago and sending that in and

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Jennifer: then they flew me out to Vancouver where we

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Jennifer: shot the movie and I met with Marc Rydell

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Jennifer: and had auditions there and then ultimately

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Jennifer: got cast.

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Marc: I'm trying to remember that the wife was

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Marc: cheating on him, or it was.

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Marc: Am I thinking the right movie?

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Jennifer: It opens with a car crash, so it was like a

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Jennifer: big car crash, yeah.

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Jennifer: And then he's pulled between Lelita

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Jennifer: Dvidevic and Sharon Stone's character and

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Jennifer: he's sort of honestly, I would have to go

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Jennifer: back and watch it to tell you the whole

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Jennifer: story, because I don't think I've seen it

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Jennifer: since I was like 15.

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Jennifer: But yeah, it was Sharon and Lelita and

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Jennifer: Richard and me.

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Marc: Being 13 and doing that.

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Marc: What were your folks thinking?

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Marc: Were they supportive of this thing their

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Marc: daughter was diving into, or were they kind

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Marc: of I don't know about this?

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Jennifer: I was really lucky.

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Jennifer: You know, my parents are both teachers and

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Jennifer: I think for them they're both music

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Jennifer: teachers, so they understood that I was

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Jennifer: interested in being creative and their

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Jennifer: attitude was always you know, if you're

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Jennifer: doing well in school and you're paying

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Jennifer: attention to your studies, you can do this

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Jennifer: for fun, and I think that was a great way

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Jennifer: to be introduced to it, because I never had

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Jennifer: that pressure.

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Jennifer: You know, I didn't have stage parents, I

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Jennifer: didn't have someone forcing me to do it and

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Jennifer: I also didn't have someone fighting me

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Jennifer: terribly.

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Jennifer: It was just if this is something you enjoy,

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Jennifer: then it's something that you love and we

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Jennifer: can make it work while you're still also

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Jennifer: taking your studies seriously, then you can

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Jennifer: do it, and so I think that was a really

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Jennifer: nice way for me to be introduced to all

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Jennifer: that.

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Jennifer: It kept a nice balance in my life.

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Marc: Yeah, you know, whenever I speak to young

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Marc: actors the kid actors it's always nice.

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Jennifer: And so I was really cutting my teeth on all

513

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Jennifer: these things like the way that you normally

514

17:15 ,180 --> 00:17:17,395

Jennifer: would, and then I really fought very hard

515

17:17 ,435 --> 00:17:20,748

Jennifer: to put my feature together and found that

516

17:20 ,808 --> 00:17:22,614

Jennifer: financing for that made that film sold it

517

17:22 ,655 --> 00:17:25,973

Jennifer: to Netflix, and so it was really important

518

17:26 ,013 --> 00:17:29,140

Jennifer: to me to kind of climb through that process

519

17:29 ,802 --> 00:17:34,918

Jennifer: organically and not be perceived as like,

520

17:35 ,118 --> 00:17:37,082

Jennifer: oh well, she was just given this favor of

521

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Jennifer: an episode.

522

17:38 ,110 --> 00:17:39,514

Jennifer: It's not a fair thing because, no matter

523

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Jennifer: what, you still have to direct.

524

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Marc: That's interesting.

525

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Marc: So you really drew a line of delineation

526

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Marc: between you and camera, because I wonder

527

17:45 ,529 --> 00:17:48,508

Marc: what it's like to direct yourself and be in

528

17:48 ,528 --> 00:17:50,042

Marc: an episode that's got to be really rough.

529

17:50 ,083 --> 00:17:50,830

Marc: To have that objectivity.

530

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Marc: You got to trust, I guess, your DP to give

531

17:54 ,439 --> 00:17:55,903

Marc: you a good you know, got to trust somebody

532

17:55 ,950 --> 00:17:57,294

Marc: on the set to give you feedback on your own

533

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Marc: performance.

534

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Marc: I guess Is there any genre that you kind of

535

18:00 ,713 --> 00:18:04,740

Marc: wanted to focus on, indirecting, because

536

18:04 ,760 --> 00:18:07,812

Marc: you've covered some interesting like

537

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Marc: euphoria and you're dealing with young folk,

538

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Marc: you know.

539

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Marc: And then is there any specific genre you

540

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Marc: like to stick to, if you, or do you like to

541

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Marc: do it all?

542

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Jennifer: Not necessarily.

543

18:18 ,991 --> 00:18:20,575

Jennifer: I mean, I really looked at television as an

544

18:20 ,636 --> 00:18:22,401

Jennifer: opportunity to try every genre.

545

18:22 ,610 --> 00:18:28,361

Jennifer: You know, my feature Sun Dogs is very much

546

18:28 ,381 --> 00:18:29,463

Jennifer: like an underdog story.

547

18:30 ,872 --> 00:18:32,496

Jennifer: It's a very traditional American film.

548

18:32 ,557 --> 00:18:35,211

Jennifer: I feel like, you know, on purpose, I grew

549

18:35 ,291 --> 00:18:37,415

Jennifer: up loving things like the Graduate and

550

18:37 ,455 --> 00:18:41,743

Jennifer: loving things like Miracle, groundhog Day.

551

18:43 ,592 --> 00:18:44,354

Jennifer: What About Bob?

552

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Jennifer: You know, like just those, like you know,

553

18:46 ,058 --> 00:18:47,882

Jennifer: kind of all American, heartfelt.

554

18:48 ,350 --> 00:18:51,855

Jennifer: You know movies and I wanted to find

555

18:51 ,876 --> 00:18:53,159

Jennifer: something that had that energy to it,

556

18:54 ,030 --> 00:18:56,462

Jennifer: whereas with television I felt like here's

557

18:56 ,482 --> 00:18:58,110

Jennifer: a chance to go work on all different levels

558

18:58 ,190 --> 00:18:59,614

Jennifer: of budgets with all different kind of

559

18:59 ,674 --> 00:19:01,479

Jennifer: technical requirements, with all different

560

19:01 ,499 --> 00:19:04,015

Jennifer: kinds of casts, and really just get the

561

19:04 ,055 --> 00:19:05,279

Jennifer: experience of trying all of it.

562

19:05 ,430 --> 00:19:07,657

Jennifer: And so you know euphoria, I got to work

563

19:07 ,677 --> 00:19:08,700

Jennifer: with PT Anderson's crew.

564

19:09 ,110 --> 00:19:10,114

Jennifer: I got to work with Sam Levinson, who's a

565

19:10 ,175 --> 00:19:12,196

Jennifer: genius, like it was just all movement.

566

19:12 ,250 --> 00:19:14,256

Jennifer: It was a master class in movement and how

567

19:14 ,276 --> 00:19:15,920

Jennifer: to achieve really difficult shots.

568

19:16 ,530 --> 00:19:17,979

Jennifer: And then you know to go and work on, like

569

19:18 ,019 --> 00:19:19,709

Jennifer: Joe Pickett, which is a western, and be

570

19:19 ,729 --> 00:19:21,758

Jennifer: able to really like work with horses and

571

19:21 ,939 --> 00:19:23,687

Jennifer: animals and out in the wilderness and like

572

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Jennifer: with landscape, and then do a grease rise

573

19:25 ,594 --> 00:19:27,259

Jennifer: of the pink ladies and direct a musical and

574

19:27 ,299 --> 00:19:28,895

Jennifer: figure out what that looks like and all the

575

19:28 ,935 --> 00:19:30,543

Jennifer: technical things that go into accomplishing

576

19:30 ,604 --> 00:19:32,794

Jennifer: a musical and then do surface, which is a

577

19:32 ,854 --> 00:19:33,236

Jennifer: thriller.

578

19:33 ,830 --> 00:19:35,698

Jennifer: So it was like what my team and I were

579

19:35 ,718 --> 00:19:38,228

Jennifer: really looking for from a directing

580

19:38 ,288 --> 00:19:39,994

Jennifer: perspective on television in the last few

581

19:40 ,034 --> 00:19:42,381

Jennifer: years has been how do I do as many

582

19:42 ,461 --> 00:19:45,450

Jennifer: different genres as aggressively as

583

19:45 ,531 --> 00:19:47,495

Jennifer: possible, just because I really wanted to

584

19:47 ,555 --> 00:19:49,580

Jennifer: be inside those worlds and really

585

19:49 ,660 --> 00:19:52,696

Jennifer: experience what was required of those

586

19:52 ,756 --> 00:19:53,499

Jennifer: different genres.

587

19:53 ,690 --> 00:19:56,263

Jennifer: And so I think that I'm always I think Sun

588

19:56 ,283 --> 00:19:57,670

Jennifer: Dogs is always going to look like a North

589

19:57 ,790 --> 00:19:59,456

Jennifer: Star for the kind of films that I make.

590

20:00 ,390 --> 00:20:02,300

Jennifer: But what excites me is kind of moving from

591

20:02 ,341 --> 00:20:03,990

Jennifer: genre to genre on television.

592

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Marc: You know it sounds like you don't have any

593

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Marc: free time.

594

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Marc: I'm like thinking of the timeline of these

595

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Marc: projects.

596

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Marc: I'm like you don't have a lot of time off.

597

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Marc: Do you have, like, do you want to carve out

598

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Marc: space?

599

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Marc: You know I'm gonna.

600

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Marc: I want to do some time on camera.

601

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Marc: I want to work on some projects and then

602

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Marc: come back to directing.

603

20:16 ,770 --> 00:20:18,915

Marc: Are you kind of, is there like a pendulum

604

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Marc: that swings for you, or is it just sort of

605

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Marc: whatever?

606

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Jennifer: You know it's a good question and I think

607

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Jennifer: it's probably depends on what moment you

608

20:25 ,265 --> 00:20:26,732

Jennifer: asked me that question what the answer was

609

20:26 ,773 --> 00:20:27,014

Jennifer: to it.

610

20:28 ,430 --> 00:20:32,983

Jennifer: But really, the sort of grounding force

611

20:33 ,003 --> 00:20:35,490

Jennifer: that I feel I look to when I'm trying to

612

20:35 ,510 --> 00:20:37,374

Jennifer: make a decision about whether I'm acting or

613

20:37 ,414 --> 00:20:39,859

Jennifer: directing or what projects next is really,

614

20:39 ,999 --> 00:20:40,781

Jennifer: who am I working with?

615

20:41 ,790 --> 00:20:43,135

Jennifer: You know, we we all get to do the coolest

616

20:43 ,156 --> 00:20:43,617

Jennifer: thing in the world.

617

20:43 ,690 --> 00:20:45,276

Jennifer: We get to, like, do what we love all day,

618

20:45 ,316 --> 00:20:47,294

Jennifer: every day, and unfortunately, that doesn't

619

20:47 ,314 --> 00:20:48,839

Jennifer: mean you're always in a great environment.

620

20:48 ,970 --> 00:20:51,554

Jennifer: It should mean that, but not every set is a

621

20:51 ,594 --> 00:20:54,315

Jennifer: happy set, and so what's really important

622

20:54 ,355 --> 00:20:55,678

Jennifer: to me is looking at the team of people that

623

20:55 ,698 --> 00:20:56,300

Jennifer: I'm gonna work with.

624

20:57 ,370 --> 00:20:58,957

Jennifer: So, you know, if a job comes up or an

625

20:58 ,977 --> 00:21:01,206

Jennifer: opportunity comes up as an actor where I'm

626

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Jennifer: really inspired by the showrunner and the

627

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Jennifer: writers and the other actors and the whole

628

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Jennifer: group, like I will jump at that.

629

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Jennifer: That was, this is us for me.

630

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Jennifer: You know, I was dying to work with Dan

631

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Jennifer: Fogelman and I loved all those actors and I

632

21:12 ,040 --> 00:21:14,113

Jennifer: loved the show, and so that was a no

633

21:14 ,133 --> 00:21:15,096

Jennifer: brainer of like.

634

21:15 ,136 --> 00:21:16,741

Jennifer: Yes, I will carve out the time to do this,

635

21:16 ,830 --> 00:21:18,515

Jennifer: and I feel very lucky to be here and to

636

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Jennifer: even be asked to be here.

637

21:20 ,871 --> 00:21:22,776

Jennifer: And then same thing with with directing,

638

21:22 ,796 --> 00:21:24,100

Jennifer: you know, it's like who's the showrunner,

639

21:24 ,311 --> 00:21:25,683

Jennifer: who's the cinematographer, what's the

640

21:25 ,805 --> 00:21:27,214

Jennifer: creative team, who's the production

641

21:27 ,254 --> 00:21:29,055

Jennifer: designer Like, what's this cast look like?

642

21:29 ,510 --> 00:21:31,255

Jennifer: So, for me, the decisions right now are a

643

21:31 ,315 --> 00:21:32,618

Jennifer: lot more about not.

644

21:32 ,779 --> 00:21:34,392

Jennifer: It's not so much am I gonna act or am I

645

21:34 ,413 --> 00:21:34,875

Jennifer: gonna direct.

646

21:35 ,190 --> 00:21:37,295

Jennifer: It's what opportunities are available to me

647

21:37 ,336 --> 00:21:38,819

Jennifer: and what's the ecosystem that I might be

648

21:38 ,860 --> 00:21:41,336

Jennifer: joining, and so I'm really like looking at

649

21:41 ,377 --> 00:21:43,868

Jennifer: that kind of creative collaboration and I

650

21:44 ,028 --> 00:21:46,016

Jennifer: and I move toward, like the places where

651

21:46 ,036 --> 00:21:46,979

Jennifer: I'm really inspired.

652

21:47 ,270 --> 00:21:48,855

Marc: I just feel like you have so much more

653

21:48 ,895 --> 00:21:49,978

Marc: energy than I do.

654

21:51 ,611 --> 00:21:53,957

Marc: You have a great collage of things you're

655

21:53 ,977 --> 00:21:56,183

Marc: working on, but you're constantly active.

656

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Marc: I mean, what are you doing when you, you

657

21:58 ,415 --> 00:22:00,721

Marc: know, when you are not doing something

658

22:00 ,761 --> 00:22:03,934

Marc: creative on or behind the camera, what are

659

22:03 ,954 --> 00:22:05,078

Marc: you doing to kind of fill up your days

660

22:05 ,198 --> 00:22:05,459

Marc: usually?

661

22:05 ,731 --> 00:22:08,158

Jennifer: Um, I mean, I feel like I am just sort of a

662

22:08 ,198 --> 00:22:10,234

Jennifer: creative being, so much of my life is just

663

22:10 ,274 --> 00:22:12,099

Jennifer: kind of accumulating inspiration.

664

22:12 ,160 --> 00:22:15,602

Jennifer: Right, you know it's like I feel like I

665

22:15 ,663 --> 00:22:16,948

Jennifer: joke about this, but it's literally

666

22:16 ,988 --> 00:22:18,315

Jennifer: happened to me more than once where, like

667

22:18 ,375 --> 00:22:19,964

Jennifer: I've sat in the dentist office and like

668

22:20 ,005 --> 00:22:21,772

Jennifer: picked up the coffee table book and like

669

22:21 ,852 --> 00:22:24,098

Jennifer: the images in that book become inspiration

670

22:24 ,139 --> 00:22:24,961

Jennifer: for something I'm shooting.

671

22:25 ,470 --> 00:22:27,134

Jennifer: You know, it's just, I feel like if you're

672

22:27 ,234 --> 00:22:28,137

Jennifer: open to it, you can.

673

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Jennifer: You can sort of collage inspiration in your

674

22:31 ,234 --> 00:22:31,415

Jennifer: life.

675

22:31 ,610 --> 00:22:33,879

Jennifer: And so I think a lot of the time spent for

676

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Jennifer: me when I'm not on a set, you know, even if

677

22:36 ,611 --> 00:22:38,700

Jennifer: I am trying to take care of errands or

678

22:38 ,740 --> 00:22:40,729

Jennifer: whatever, is also just trying to stay open

679

22:40 ,749 --> 00:22:42,777

Jennifer: to those different influences and and and

680

22:42 ,858 --> 00:22:45,408

Jennifer: letting things accumulate inside of me so

681

22:45 ,428 --> 00:22:47,556

Jennifer: that I have that well of creativity to use

682

22:47 ,576 --> 00:22:48,198

Jennifer: when I'm working.

683

22:48 ,910 --> 00:22:50,758

Jennifer: But I also, you know, like I work out and I

684

22:50 ,799 --> 00:22:51,944

Jennifer: spend time with my family.

685

22:52 ,506 --> 00:22:53,310

Jennifer: I love hiking.

686

22:53 ,651 --> 00:22:55,216

Jennifer: You know it's great to live in LA because

687

22:55 ,236 --> 00:22:56,861

Jennifer: there's always a, you know, a pretty decent

688

22:56 ,890 --> 00:22:57,713

Jennifer: hike nearby.

689

23:00 ,110 --> 00:23:01,395

Jennifer: It's nice when there's time that I can

690

23:01 ,435 --> 00:23:02,599

Jennifer: travel with my family.

691

23:02 ,750 --> 00:23:03,894

Jennifer: Like that's something that's always really

692

23:03 ,954 --> 00:23:04,195

Jennifer: nice.

693

23:06 ,010 --> 00:23:08,617

Jennifer: But yeah, I would say, like you know, my

694

23:08 ,677 --> 00:23:10,202

Jennifer: husband and I love watching stuff together.

695

23:10 ,270 --> 00:23:11,475

Jennifer: We always have shows that we're watching

696

23:11 ,495 --> 00:23:11,736

Jennifer: together.

697

23:11 ,850 --> 00:23:13,235

Jennifer: We always have a list of movies that we're

698

23:13 ,275 --> 00:23:13,978

Jennifer: working our way through.

699

23:14 ,230 --> 00:23:17,035

Jennifer: Like our life is really very much centered

700

23:17 ,095 --> 00:23:19,720

Jennifer: around either working or finding

701

23:19 ,760 --> 00:23:21,844

Jennifer: inspiration for work, and we just love it

702

23:22 ,270 --> 00:23:22,571

Jennifer: Like it's.

703

23:22 ,792 --> 00:23:24,338

Jennifer: It doesn't feel like work when you love it.

704

23:24 ,630 --> 00:23:25,392

Marc: Now who's your husband?

705

23:25 ,432 --> 00:23:26,333

Marc: In the industry as well.

706

23:26 ,413 --> 00:23:28,497

Jennifer: He is yeah, yeah, no, he's an.

707

23:28 ,537 --> 00:23:29,259

Jennifer: He's an actor.

708

23:29 ,719 --> 00:23:30,421

Jennifer: He's an actor, yeah.

709

23:32 ,470 --> 00:23:33,380

Marc: Do you all try to work in such a way where

710

23:33 ,400 --> 00:23:34,270

Marc: you're both not working on a pretty intense

711

23:34 ,370 --> 00:23:37,357

Marc: project at the same time, or do you just

712

23:37 ,378 --> 00:23:39,128

Marc: kind of take it as it comes to you?

713

23:40 ,453 --> 00:23:43,381

Jennifer: No, I mean so far it's worked out really

714

23:43 ,421 --> 00:23:43,561

Jennifer: well.

715

23:45 ,794 --> 00:23:48,059

Jennifer: I think it's part of the joy of both being

716

23:48 ,099 --> 00:23:49,381

Jennifer: in the industry is that you really

717

23:49 ,421 --> 00:23:51,672

Jennifer: understand we would never take it

718

23:51 ,712 --> 00:23:54,019

Jennifer: personally and we would never be offended

719

23:54 ,079 --> 00:23:55,893

Jennifer: by the time that needs to be spent on a

720

23:55 ,933 --> 00:23:58,575

Jennifer: project, and we do really try to be there

721

23:58 ,615 --> 00:23:59,097

Jennifer: for each other.

722

23:59 ,510 --> 00:24:00,834

Jennifer: It's like there's different things that we

723

24:00 ,874 --> 00:24:02,479

Jennifer: need from each other on different projects,

724

24:03 ,351 --> 00:24:05,116

Jennifer: and I think that that's been a really

725

24:05 ,156 --> 00:24:07,381

Jennifer: beautiful part of our partnership is just

726

24:07 ,542 --> 00:24:08,915

Jennifer: it's like okay, what do you need from me on

727

24:08 ,935 --> 00:24:09,256

Jennifer: this one?

728

24:09 ,350 --> 00:24:11,260

Jennifer: You need me to like give you space so that

729

24:11 ,280 --> 00:24:13,230

Jennifer: you can think and be alone, or you need me

730

24:13 ,270 --> 00:24:14,575

Jennifer: to be there to run lines with you every

731

24:14 ,615 --> 00:24:14,816

Jennifer: night.

732

24:15 ,530 --> 00:24:17,595

Jennifer: So we really we have found creative ways to

733

24:17 ,635 --> 00:24:19,460

Jennifer: do that for each other, even when we can't

734

24:19 ,480 --> 00:24:20,162

Jennifer: be in the same city.

735

24:20 ,631 --> 00:24:23,002

Jennifer: Thank God for Zoom and FaceTime and all the

736

24:23 ,043 --> 00:24:24,530

Jennifer: things, because now I think you could be a

737

24:24 ,610 --> 00:24:25,253

Jennifer: lot more present.

738

24:27 ,753 --> 00:24:29,096

Jennifer: But I'm sure it'll continue to get more

739

24:29 ,136 --> 00:24:31,000

Jennifer: complicated as our lives continue and

740

24:31 ,020 --> 00:24:31,982

Jennifer: different jobs come up.

741

24:33 ,993 --> 00:24:36,017

Jennifer: But it's like if I'm directing something

742

24:36 ,037 --> 00:24:37,901

Jennifer: and he's acting on something, oftentimes

743

24:37 ,961 --> 00:24:40,476

Jennifer: he's the one who's like I get it.

744

24:40 ,570 --> 00:24:42,578

Jennifer: I know you're basically working 24 seven,

745

24:42 ,750 --> 00:24:44,856

Jennifer: so like he'll ask for a Friday off so he

746

24:44 ,896 --> 00:24:47,333

Jennifer: can fly to me, and then vice versa.

747

24:49 ,053 --> 00:24:51,538

Jennifer: It's like, if I'm not, if I'm in prep and

748

24:51 ,598 --> 00:24:53,683

Jennifer: I'm not actually on set at that moment, I

749

24:53 ,703 --> 00:24:55,053

Jennifer: have a little bit more time, but he's got a

750

24:55 ,073 --> 00:24:56,658

Jennifer: really intense role, then I'll try to fly

751

24:56 ,698 --> 00:24:56,959

Jennifer: to him.

752

24:58 ,170 --> 00:24:59,314

Jennifer: And there's also been times where we've

753

24:59 ,334 --> 00:25:01,480

Jennifer: just it's turned out that he's had time off

754

25:01 ,500 --> 00:25:02,674

Jennifer: while I was directing something and he's

755

25:02 ,694 --> 00:25:03,958

Jennifer: been able to come and stay with me for a

756

25:03 ,978 --> 00:25:04,279

Jennifer: stretch.

757

25:04 ,430 --> 00:25:07,451

Jennifer: So we just make the best of it and, like I

758

25:07 ,471 --> 00:25:09,557

Jennifer: said, it's the lucky part of both being in

759

25:09 ,577 --> 00:25:10,901

Jennifer: the industry is that we do at least

760

25:10 ,990 --> 00:25:12,738

Jennifer: understand what each other is going through.

761

25:13 ,031 --> 00:25:14,797

Marc: Is he down with you directing him in a

762

25:14 ,837 --> 00:25:15,259

Marc: project?

763

25:15 ,350 --> 00:25:16,774

Marc: Is that something he's kind of like?

764

25:17 ,035 --> 00:25:18,659

Marc: You know, I don't know about that or is he

765

25:18 ,679 --> 00:25:19,361

Marc: kind of cool with it?

766

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Jennifer: No, he would love that Like he's actually.

767

25:21 ,953 --> 00:25:24,720

Jennifer: He's yeah, he's like my husband's the best

768

25:24 ,780 --> 00:25:25,342

Jennifer: he really is.

769

25:25 ,850 --> 00:25:26,995

Jennifer: He's an incredible human being and like

770

25:27 ,377 --> 00:25:27,839

Jennifer: he's just.

771

25:27 ,899 --> 00:25:30,511

Jennifer: He's such a I mean he's an incredible human

772

25:30 ,531 --> 00:25:33,304

Jennifer: being and like a great talent and he's

773

25:33 ,559 --> 00:25:36,647

Jennifer: incredibly egoless with me when I direct

774

25:36 ,902 --> 00:25:39,436

Jennifer: him, which is which is incredible, because

775

25:39 ,476 --> 00:25:40,919

Jennifer: I think that that's a really tough thing to

776

25:40 ,959 --> 00:25:43,312

Jennifer: do in a partnership, but he really trusts

777

25:43 ,372 --> 00:25:47,523

Jennifer: me and and yeah, we've I mean, a lot of the

778

25:47 ,543 --> 00:25:49,050

Jennifer: directing has just been on like self tapes

779

25:49 ,130 --> 00:25:51,100

Jennifer: to get jobs and things like that, but it

780

25:51 ,120 --> 00:25:51,823

Jennifer: goes really well.

781

25:51 ,984 --> 00:25:52,708

Jennifer: You know like we're.

782

25:52 ,889 --> 00:25:54,516

Jennifer: We make a good team when it comes to that

783

25:54 ,556 --> 00:25:56,034

Jennifer: stuff, so it's been.

784

25:56 ,095 --> 00:25:56,536

Jennifer: Oh, there he is.

785

25:57 ,753 --> 00:26:00,212

Jennifer: I was just bragging about here, so I might.

786

26:00 ,273 --> 00:26:00,936

Jennifer: He just walked through.

787

26:01 ,831 --> 00:26:04,578

Marc: You know it's funny the well not funny.

788

26:04 ,638 --> 00:26:06,823

Marc: But I've talked with folks that now you had

789

26:06 ,850 --> 00:26:08,757

Marc: this kind of three month gap during the

790

26:08 ,797 --> 00:26:09,138

Marc: strike.

791

26:09 ,270 --> 00:26:10,635

Marc: How did you fill up your time during that?

792

26:11 ,076 --> 00:26:12,191

Jennifer: Oh, yeah, I mean that's.

793

26:12 ,211 --> 00:26:14,097

Jennifer: It's obviously a whole other thing.

794

26:14 ,117 --> 00:26:18,782

Jennifer: Yeah, I mean, the thing is I, a lot of it

795

26:18 ,822 --> 00:26:20,428

Jennifer: was just us being able to have time

796

26:20 ,448 --> 00:26:21,773

Jennifer: together and with our family, which is

797

26:21 ,814 --> 00:26:22,296

Jennifer: incredible.

798

26:22 ,991 --> 00:26:26,440

Jennifer: And we, we, we try to take advantage of

799

26:26 ,500 --> 00:26:27,042

Jennifer: things like that.

800

26:27 ,190 --> 00:26:28,674

Jennifer: You know, obviously we wouldn't wish the

801

26:28 ,694 --> 00:26:30,440

Jennifer: strike on the industry or on us or on

802

26:30 ,520 --> 00:26:33,217

Jennifer: anyone, and we really want to be back to

803

26:33 ,257 --> 00:26:36,897

Jennifer: work too, but but you know, we, we did try

804

26:36 ,937 --> 00:26:38,321

Jennifer: to take advantage of the fact that we could

805

26:38 ,341 --> 00:26:40,254

Jennifer: be home together, living in our house and

806

26:40 ,735 --> 00:26:43,462

Jennifer: and being a family and really enjoying that,

807

26:44 ,371 --> 00:26:45,694

Jennifer: and it was a blessing, you know.

808

26:45 ,915 --> 00:26:47,318

Jennifer: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

809

26:49 ,070 --> 00:26:50,715

Jennifer: And also, you know there's so many things

810

26:51 ,156 --> 00:26:52,320

Jennifer: that I have had plates, I mean so many

811

26:52 ,380 --> 00:26:54,514

Jennifer: plates spinning that I have as a director,

812

26:54 ,595 --> 00:26:57,742

Jennifer: that didn't necessarily stop during that

813

26:57 ,782 --> 00:26:59,213

Jennifer: time, you know, I mean we couldn't cast

814

26:59 ,253 --> 00:27:00,598

Jennifer: anything and it couldn't actually go into

815

27:00 ,638 --> 00:27:01,039

Jennifer: production.

816

27:01 ,310 --> 00:27:03,555

Jennifer: But you know there's, there's all sorts of

817

27:03 ,735 --> 00:27:07,082

Jennifer: other things that were being asked of my

818

27:07 ,143 --> 00:27:09,175

Jennifer: mind creatively for some of the projects

819

27:09 ,195 --> 00:27:10,640

Jennifer: that I'm attached to as a filmmaker.

820

27:10 ,790 --> 00:27:13,096

Jennifer: So so that did fill some of it.

821

27:13 ,296 --> 00:27:14,940

Jennifer: And you know, traveling a little bit and

822

27:14 ,960 --> 00:27:15,462

Jennifer: all that stuff.

823

27:15 ,830 --> 00:27:18,818

Marc: Well, on Dr Death, you know, like in movies

824

27:16 An Insightful Conversation on TV Directing

27:19 ,279 --> 00:27:20,991

Marc: it's really a director's medium and they

825

27:21 ,011 --> 00:27:22,235

Marc: say on TV it's a writer's medium.

826

27:22 ,255 --> 00:27:23,419

Marc: But you look at some of these shows and

827

27:23 ,439 --> 00:27:24,992

Marc: kind of the way things are done, and

828

27:25 ,012 --> 00:27:26,259

Marc: especially if you're directing multiple

829

27:26 ,360 --> 00:27:27,969

Marc: episodes, you really get to kind of put

830

27:27 ,990 --> 00:27:28,873

Marc: your own thumbprint on that.

831

27:29 ,790 --> 00:27:31,356

Marc: What was kind of your idea and kind of like

832

27:31 ,376 --> 00:27:32,118

Marc: how did it come to you?

833

27:32 ,270 --> 00:27:33,994

Marc: And also kind of how did you kind of put

834

27:34 ,014 --> 00:27:35,699

Marc: your own thumbprint on what this was all

835

27:35 ,739 --> 00:27:36,821

Marc: about this season?

836

27:37 ,250 --> 00:27:38,054

Jennifer: Yeah, it's a great question.

837

27:38 ,990 --> 00:27:41,719

Jennifer: So yeah, dr Death is an anthology series,

838

27:41 ,910 --> 00:27:44,077

Jennifer: so each season is a different cast and a

839

27:44 ,097 --> 00:27:45,360

Jennifer: different story that's being told.

840

27:45 ,550 --> 00:27:48,480

Jennifer: So it's exciting because, even though there

841

27:48 ,580 --> 00:27:50,868

Jennifer: is this kind of like heartbeat of a

842

27:50 ,908 --> 00:27:52,877

Jennifer: throughline of each season, is a doctor

843

27:52 ,897 --> 00:27:54,645

Jennifer: that has done something terrible within the

844

27:54 ,686 --> 00:27:56,232

Jennifer: system and kind of gotten away with it.

845

27:57 ,395 --> 00:27:58,779

Jennifer: Each year it really starts over.

846

27:59 ,270 --> 00:28:01,758

Jennifer: So the first year was about this Dr, dr

847

28:01 ,798 --> 00:28:03,676

Jennifer: Dunge and I actually directed episodes

848

28:03 ,716 --> 00:28:05,766

Jennifer: three and four of the first season when

849

28:05 ,847 --> 00:28:08,034

Jennifer: Patrick Big Manus was the showrunner for

850

28:08 ,054 --> 00:28:10,359

Jennifer: that season and worked with, you know, alec

851

28:10 ,379 --> 00:28:12,492

Jennifer: Baldwin, christian Slater, josh Jackson

852

28:12 ,632 --> 00:28:16,703

Jennifer: great cast Grace Gummer, and, and I got two

853

28:16 ,763 --> 00:28:19,489

Jennifer: episodes where it was sort of a really big

854

28:19 ,589 --> 00:28:21,373

Jennifer: visual concept for those two episodes

855

28:21 ,393 --> 00:28:23,704

Jennifer: because a huge section of it was like this

856

28:23 ,764 --> 00:28:25,468

Jennifer: fantasy sequence that needed to feel like

857

28:25 ,508 --> 00:28:29,482

Jennifer: it wasn't real and so I really got to Put a

858

28:29 ,542 --> 00:28:32,012

Jennifer: visual stamp on that because of the fantasy

859

28:32 ,072 --> 00:28:34,039

Jennifer: sequence of it all and and that went really

860

28:34 ,079 --> 00:28:35,988

Jennifer: well and I got along so well with Patrick.

861

28:36 ,049 --> 00:28:38,198

Jennifer: And then when season two was being

862

28:38 ,218 --> 00:28:40,105

Jennifer: conceived and they decided to do the Paolo

863

28:40 ,125 --> 00:28:41,831

Jennifer: Macchiarini story and they needed someone

864

28:41 ,871 --> 00:28:43,778

Jennifer: to pilot the second season and do the first

865

28:43 ,798 --> 00:28:44,400

Jennifer: four episodes.

866

28:45 ,622 --> 00:28:47,947

Jennifer: You know, I think because of how sort of

867

28:48 ,007 --> 00:28:50,372

Jennifer: visual those episodes were, that I ended up

868

28:50 ,512 --> 00:28:53,184

Jennifer: directing in the first Go around of the

869

28:53 ,245 --> 00:28:54,148

Jennifer: anthology series.

870

28:55 ,061 --> 00:28:56,746

Jennifer: They thought of me for this and I met with

871

28:56 ,806 --> 00:28:58,310

Jennifer: Ashley Michael Holbin, who's a showrunner

872

28:58 ,370 --> 00:29:01,211

Jennifer: on this one, and she was just incredible

873

29:01 ,292 --> 00:29:03,584

Jennifer: and we had a great collaboration and and I

874

29:03 ,604 --> 00:29:05,349

Jennifer: just attribute both Patrick and Ashley

875

29:05 ,389 --> 00:29:07,762

Jennifer: Michael as just being Just such

876

29:07 ,843 --> 00:29:09,466

Jennifer: collaborative partners like you were saying

877

29:09 ,487 --> 00:29:10,890

Jennifer: like sometimes the director is a little bit

878

29:10 ,910 --> 00:29:12,785

Jennifer: minimalized on television and I don't think

879

29:12 ,885 --> 00:29:14,839

Jennifer: either of them would ever allow that, you

880

29:14 ,859 --> 00:29:14,940

Jennifer: know.

881

29:15 ,060 --> 00:29:17,345

Jennifer: So I was really grateful to feel like a

882

29:17 ,386 --> 00:29:19,711

Jennifer: real partner in that situation, with in

883

29:19 ,731 --> 00:29:22,685

Jennifer: both situations and and Ashley and Michael

884

29:22 ,705 --> 00:29:26,362

Jennifer: and I were just like so close and Just in.

885

29:26 ,863 --> 00:29:29,709

Jennifer: We also had very similar taste and and saw

886

29:29 ,749 --> 00:29:31,112

Jennifer: the show in such a similar way.

887

29:31 ,172 --> 00:29:34,762

Jennifer: So it was a great partnership and I've

888

29:34 ,843 --> 00:29:37,748

Jennifer: learned over the years like it's really

889

29:37 ,809 --> 00:29:40,043

Jennifer: important to find that right partnership

890

29:40 ,103 --> 00:29:40,966

Jennifer: with your showrunners.

891

29:41 ,006 --> 00:29:42,390

Jennifer: You know every showrunner is different.

892

29:42 ,450 --> 00:29:44,383

Jennifer: Every showrunner Operates a little bit

893

29:44 ,403 --> 00:29:44,805

Jennifer: differently.

894

29:44 ,885 --> 00:29:47,267

Jennifer: Every showrunner is Differently generous in

895

29:47 ,287 --> 00:29:48,816

Jennifer: terms of how much they let you put your

896

29:48 ,877 --> 00:29:50,889

Jennifer: stamp on things, but no matter what,

897

29:51 ,190 --> 00:29:52,458

Jennifer: they're the ones who conceived of it in

898

29:52 ,478 --> 00:29:54,404

Jennifer: their brain, so I'm doing the best I can to

899

29:54 ,444 --> 00:29:56,449

Jennifer: kind of climb inside their heads and try to

900

29:56 ,489 --> 00:29:58,073

Jennifer: bring to life this thing that they've been,

901

29:58 ,701 --> 00:30:00,586

Jennifer: they've been working on for sometimes years,

902

30:00 ,667 --> 00:30:02,512

Jennifer: before I even come to the project, you know.

903

30:03 ,806 --> 00:30:07,304

Jennifer: And so with with the Second season of dr

904

30:07 ,365 --> 00:30:09,429

Jennifer: Death, you know, it was just exciting to do

905

30:09 ,449 --> 00:30:11,032

Jennifer: the pilot, is exciting to be a part of the

906

30:11 ,072 --> 00:30:11,934

Jennifer: casting process.

907

30:12 ,801 --> 00:30:15,149

Jennifer: It was wild because we shot all four

908

30:15 ,209 --> 00:30:17,384

Jennifer: episodes at once, so it was basically like

909

30:17 ,404 --> 00:30:19,470

Jennifer: making a four-hour movie and we had to cast,

910

30:19 ,550 --> 00:30:22,645

Jennifer: you know, 120 actors or something before we

911

30:22 ,705 --> 00:30:23,888

Jennifer: even started, because we were

912

30:23 ,908 --> 00:30:25,291

Jennifer: cross-boarding everything, which meant

913

30:25 ,351 --> 00:30:26,874

Jennifer: everybody had to be there and available.

914

30:28 ,702 --> 00:30:30,345

Jennifer: And it was really important to me that I

915

30:30 ,446 --> 00:30:32,389

Jennifer: wanted, I I wanted to still have the

916

30:32 ,429 --> 00:30:33,872

Jennifer: heartbeat, in essence, of what was

917

30:33 ,952 --> 00:30:35,221

Jennifer: established in the first season, but I

918

30:35 ,301 --> 00:30:36,927

Jennifer: wanted it to have its own look in its own

919

30:36 ,967 --> 00:30:39,585

Jennifer: vibe, and the story was so different that

920

30:39 ,605 --> 00:30:41,370

Jennifer: it was asking for a different energy.

921

30:41 ,450 --> 00:30:45,905

Jennifer: And so you know, the dog, the Palo Macchi

922

30:45 ,945 --> 00:30:48,812

Jennifer: Rini character, is kind of swirling people

923

30:49 ,012 --> 00:30:51,950

Jennifer: into Misconceptions at all times and he

924

30:52 ,050 --> 00:30:53,500

Jennifer: spins the truth all the time.

925

30:53 ,680 --> 00:30:55,605

Jennifer: And so there were just there were times

926

30:55 ,645 --> 00:30:58,152

Jennifer: where movement was really important to keep

927

30:58 ,352 --> 00:31:00,398

Jennifer: the audience in a place of feeling that

928

31:00 ,418 --> 00:31:01,300

Jennifer: kind of whirlwind of energy.

929

31:02 ,243 --> 00:31:03,708

Jennifer: And then there were times where, because

930

31:03 ,788 --> 00:31:06,376

Jennifer: that was happening, stillness really meant

931

31:06 ,457 --> 00:31:07,480

Jennifer: something, you know.

932

31:07 ,700 --> 00:31:09,605

Jennifer: So you you'll feel that there's a push and

933

31:09 ,645 --> 00:31:11,209

Jennifer: pull between movement and stillness in the

934

31:11 ,249 --> 00:31:13,013

Jennifer: show and that was very much in the design.

935

31:13 ,681 --> 00:31:15,245

Marc: Are you naturally a person who likes to

936

31:15 ,326 --> 00:31:17,070

Marc: prepare a lot, because that's what seems

937

31:17 ,090 --> 00:31:20,144

Marc: like TV and I don't know if I could ever

938

31:20 ,204 --> 00:31:22,630

Marc: direct, because I'm so like sometimes if I

939

31:22 ,670 --> 00:31:24,281

Marc: go to a restaurant with a big menu I'm like

940

31:24 ,321 --> 00:31:26,128

Marc: a pain in the ass, I mean, like I'm, I

941

31:26 ,168 --> 00:31:27,734

Marc: can't make my mind, and being a director,

942

31:27 ,794 --> 00:31:29,240

Marc: it's all about the choices, you know.

943

31:30 ,083 --> 00:31:31,529

Marc: So are you naturally somebody who just kind

944

31:31 ,569 --> 00:31:34,040

Marc: of really prepare is a lot, so you walk in,

945

31:34 ,060 --> 00:31:35,988

Marc: that it's, you're ready to go day off.

946

31:36 ,149 --> 00:31:37,314

Jennifer: Yeah, I mean here's.

947

31:37 ,334 --> 00:31:39,101

Jennifer: The thing is like I am a big prepper, but

948

31:39 ,322 --> 00:31:41,108

Jennifer: that preparation is so that I can be

949

31:41 ,168 --> 00:31:41,609

Jennifer: flexible.

950

31:42 ,111 --> 00:31:43,696

Jennifer: You know it's like I always look at the

951

31:43 ,736 --> 00:31:44,940

Jennifer: preparation as the safety net.

952

31:45 ,121 --> 00:31:46,732

Jennifer: You know it's like there's always, there's

953

31:46 ,772 --> 00:31:47,819

Jennifer: always something you don't expect on the

954

31:47 ,860 --> 00:31:47,920

Jennifer: day.

955

31:48 ,000 --> 00:31:49,104

Jennifer: There's always a crisis that you don't

956

31:49 ,144 --> 00:31:50,287

Jennifer: expect on the day that you're gonna have to

957

31:50 ,307 --> 00:31:54,361

Jennifer: pivot and solve, and you can't be so Stuck

958

31:54 ,401 --> 00:31:56,286

Jennifer: in your prep that you can't let go of it to

959

31:56 ,426 --> 00:31:57,589

Jennifer: adjust to the circumstances.

960

31:57 ,669 --> 00:31:59,012

Jennifer: But also there's oh there's gonna be a

961

31:59 ,072 --> 00:32:00,545

Jennifer: moment of Inspiration that you may not have

962

32:00 ,565 --> 00:32:01,047

Jennifer: seen coming.

963

32:01 ,401 --> 00:32:02,865

Jennifer: But as long as you have that preparation

964

32:02 ,905 --> 00:32:05,392

Jennifer: and you know you have a plan that can work

965

32:06 ,322 --> 00:32:08,089

Jennifer: If you so choose to go with it.

966

32:08 ,903 --> 00:32:11,196

Jennifer: It gives you an efficiency to the way that

967

32:11 ,236 --> 00:32:12,642

Jennifer: you move through your day and I think that

968

32:12 ,662 --> 00:32:15,149

Jennifer: that's the greatest gift a director can

969

32:15 ,189 --> 00:32:17,114

Jennifer: give themselves is efficiency, because that

970

32:17 ,154 --> 00:32:19,662

Jennifer: means you have time for that shot, that's a

971

32:19 ,722 --> 00:32:21,552

Jennifer: new inspiration, or you have time to have

972

32:21 ,593 --> 00:32:22,920

Jennifer: that extra take with the actor.

973

32:23 ,624 --> 00:32:26,943

Jennifer: So I really do believe in prep, but I also

974

32:27 ,204 --> 00:32:28,829

Jennifer: it's it's very similar to how I think as an

975

32:28 ,909 --> 00:32:30,088

Jennifer: actor, which is you prep, you prep, you,

976

32:30 ,128 --> 00:32:31,358

Jennifer: prep, you prep, and as soon as you're there

977

32:31 ,378 --> 00:32:32,605

Jennifer: on the day You've got to let it all go and

978

32:32 ,646 --> 00:32:35,622

Jennifer: just be, and it's a similar thing, I think,

979

32:35 ,662 --> 00:32:37,353

Jennifer: is a filmmaker, which is like you prep, you

980

32:37 ,373 --> 00:32:38,683

Jennifer: prep, you prep, you're prepared, you're

981

32:38 ,703 --> 00:32:40,342

Jennifer: ready to go, you have that safety net, but

982

32:40 ,382 --> 00:32:42,512

Jennifer: you also have to let go and just be and let

983

32:42 ,653 --> 00:32:44,040

Jennifer: let inspiration in the moment come.

984

32:44 ,120 --> 00:32:45,625

Jennifer: There's got to be a balance between

985

32:45 ,665 --> 00:32:47,010

Jennifer: preparation and inspiration.

986

32:47 Current and Future Projects and Preferences

32:47 ,482 --> 00:32:49,733

Marc: What is the next thing on your agenda?

987

32:49 ,773 --> 00:32:51,040

Marc: Is it gonna be a directing project?

988

32:51 ,181 --> 00:32:52,186

Marc: It's gonna be on camera.

989

32:52 ,246 --> 00:32:54,197

Marc: Do you already have something lined up that

990

32:54 ,217 --> 00:32:54,760

Marc: you're wanting to do?

991

32:55 ,201 --> 00:32:57,428

Jennifer: You know, I don't know, because I

992

32:57 ,528 --> 00:33:00,845

Jennifer: originally was Asked to be the producing

993

33:00 ,885 --> 00:33:02,669

Jennifer: director for grease rise of the pink ladies

994

33:02 ,710 --> 00:33:05,567

Jennifer: for the second season and then, with all of

995

33:05 ,627 --> 00:33:07,032

Jennifer: the stuff that happened with the strike and

996

33:07 ,052 --> 00:33:08,316

Jennifer: all the complexities of all that stuff,

997

33:08 ,336 --> 00:33:09,540

Jennifer: that show ended up getting cancelled.

998

33:09 ,741 --> 00:33:11,971

Jennifer: So the job I had lined up is no longer

999

33:12 ,031 --> 00:33:12,292

Jennifer: there.

Speaker:1000

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Jennifer: So I'm right now.

Speaker:1001

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Jennifer: I mean I have, I'm attached to a Netflix

Speaker:1002

33:16 ,406 --> 00:33:18,011

Jennifer: movie that just isn't greenlit yet to

Speaker:1003

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Jennifer: direct, and I have two projects that I'm

Speaker:1004

33:21 ,704 --> 00:33:24,947

Jennifer: about to take to Marcet as a director and

Speaker:1005

33:25 ,901 --> 00:33:27,646

Jennifer: and I'm writing a script that I'm hoping to

Speaker:1006

33:27 ,666 --> 00:33:29,610

Jennifer: direct as well, that has producers already

Speaker:1007

33:29 ,691 --> 00:33:32,145

Jennifer: on board and and Financing and all that.

Speaker:1008

33:32 ,206 --> 00:33:34,016

Jennifer: So I have all these things that are sort of

Speaker:1009

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Jennifer: percolating, but I don't have, like, the

Speaker:1010

33:35 ,625 --> 00:33:37,837

Jennifer: next doctor death job that I can say for

Speaker:1011

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Jennifer: sure is coming.

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Jennifer: So it's just a matter of like which thing

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Jennifer: actually falls into place, hopefully early

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Jennifer: next year.

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Marc: Maybe a vacation?

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Marc: Maybe I'm hearing all the stuff you're

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Marc: doing going gosh.

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Marc: I knew need to be more efficient with my

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Marc: time.

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Jennifer: I did just have a strike.

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Jennifer: I had, I had, plenty of vacation on this

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Jennifer: strike, so I'm, I'm, I'm ready, I'm ready

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Jennifer: to work in January.

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Marc: Well, as we kind of wrap up here, I do a

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Marc: little something I call my seven questions,

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Marc: kind of my favorite, one of my favorite

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Marc: parts of the little shindig I do every week,

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Marc: just kind of a little extra get to know you.

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Marc: One of the questions I like to always ask

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Marc: is I'm a big food.

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Marc: I kind of started off with the Giordano's

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Marc: little malnadi's question but what is your

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Marc: favorite comfort food?

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Jennifer: I love pasta, like I love like a great

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Jennifer: bolognese, and I'm not picky.

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Jennifer: It could be probably from anywhere I'm fine

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Jennifer: with, like you know, like one of our

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Jennifer: favorite restaurants in New York is Rosdora,

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Jennifer: which is like this extraordinary Michelin

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Jennifer: star Italian restaurant.

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Jennifer: So, like, you can take me there and give me,

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Jennifer: you know, a ragu, or you could also take me

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Jennifer: to Olive Garden and I'm either way, you

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Jennifer: give me pasta and it's, it's my comfort.

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Marc: You know, sometimes you just need is to big

Speaker:1046

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Marc: bowl of pasta, some just average wine and

Speaker:1047

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Marc: just you know, olive Garden sometimes

Speaker:1048

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Marc: satisfies that, you know.

Speaker:1049

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Marc: But if you just need to carb overload, you

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Marc: know it's scoos as a soul.

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Marc: Now the next question I got is if you're

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Marc: going to sit down, you got like a few hours

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Marc: to sit down with three people to sit down

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Marc: talk story.

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Marc: Who would those three people be at the

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Marc: table, with you living or not?

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Marc: Actually, who would you like to sit down?

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Jennifer: with.

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Jennifer: I think one of the people I would love to

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Jennifer: sit down with is Greta Gerwig.

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Jennifer: I think she's so brilliant and just so has

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Jennifer: her finger on the pulse of really

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Jennifer: interesting, unique work right now as a

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Jennifer: filmmaker.

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Jennifer: So I'd say Greta Gerwig for sure, and like

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Jennifer: maybe Lois Weber, she was like so she's not

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Jennifer: alive, but she was in the early days, was

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Jennifer: writing, directing, producing all her own

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Jennifer: stuff.

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Jennifer: She was the first woman to start her own

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Jennifer: studio, really just like a pioneer in the

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Jennifer: industry and was just like a force as a

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Jennifer: filmmaker and I think had she been a male

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Jennifer: who did what she did, we'd all be talking

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Jennifer: about her differently.

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Jennifer: But like she was just a really, really

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Jennifer: fascinating it was kind of like a Lucille

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Jennifer: Ball sort of.

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Jennifer: Yes, yeah, very much so.

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Marc: Now, who would the third person be?

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Marc: Maybe Martin Scorsese, you know?

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Jennifer: Oh sorry, three.

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Jennifer: You said three, I was thinking I was yeah

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Jennifer: yeah.

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Jennifer: Yeah, scorsese, I'll take.

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Jennifer: Yeah, exactly, I would say Scorsese Greta

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Jennifer: Gerwig and Lois Weber.

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Jennifer: Those that'll be a great conversation.

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Marc: It would be quite educational, without a

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Marc: doubt.

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Marc: Now I do want to go to the third question,

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Marc: which is when you were a kid, who was your

Speaker:1093

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Marc: first celebrity crush, first person that,

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Marc: just like just captivated you?

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Jennifer: It was.

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Jennifer: There was that movie, the ladybug movie.

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Jennifer: It was like a soccer movie.

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Jennifer: I think Cura Knightley was maybe in it and

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Jennifer: I think his name was Jonathan Brandis.

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Jennifer: I don't think he's actually alive anymore,

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Jennifer: sadly.

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Jennifer: But like blonde hair cute kid like I just

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Jennifer: remember having a crush on him His birthday

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Jennifer: was the day after mine.

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Jennifer: His birthday was April 13th, and I somehow

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Jennifer: thought that meant, like you know, it was

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Jennifer: fate for sure.

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Marc: Yeah, and I was like, oh, did we share a

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Marc: birthday?

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Marc: I'm, you know, it's always funny like the

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Marc: people you share birthdays with somehow,

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Marc: like you should all get a convention going

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Marc: with each other If you were to live on.

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Marc: The next question if you're live on an

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Marc: exotic island, it's not like a you know

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Marc: some castaway.

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Marc: It's maybe a nice resort or whatever, but

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Marc: there's no streaming, there's no internet.

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Marc: You have to bring a DVD of a movie and a CD

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Marc: of your favorite album or something to

Speaker:1121

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Marc: listen to over and over and watch over.

Speaker:1122

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Marc: So what would that DVD and what would that

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Marc: CD be for you?

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Jennifer: I think the DVD would probably be the

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Jennifer: graduate.

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Jennifer: I feel like I go back to that movie a lot

Speaker:1127

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Jennifer: for a lot of different reasons.

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Jennifer: I really liked that film, yeah, and I feel

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Jennifer: I love the way that it's, I love the

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Jennifer: craftsmanship of it, but I also love the

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Jennifer: story and I love the characters and, yeah,

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Jennifer: I feel like there's just always, I feel

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Jennifer: like every time I watch that something new

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Jennifer: presents itself to me and I really, I

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Jennifer: really enjoy that.

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Jennifer: And in terms of a CD, I would take Beck's

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Jennifer: Morning Face, which is just a beautiful

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Jennifer: album.

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Jennifer: That, I feel like, is.

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Jennifer: I feel like a lot of albums now are not

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Jennifer: like complete, they're not like start to

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Jennifer: finish, where you need to hear the whole

Speaker:1143

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Jennifer: thing together to feel its experience.

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Jennifer: Right right and that's.

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Jennifer: That's one of the few albums, I think in

Speaker:1146

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Jennifer: the last, you know, 10 years.

Speaker:1147

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Jennifer: That is like very much like an album.

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Jennifer: That is a complete thought, you know.

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Marc: Yeah, yeah, that's a really good point.

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Marc: After spending some time in radio, you know,

Speaker:1151

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Marc: last time was my heyday and radio was like

Speaker:1152

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Marc: the nineties, but music radio that is.

Speaker:1153

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Marc: And the thing is it seems like they would

Speaker:1154

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Marc: always put out an album with only really

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Marc: two songs that were that great and then the

Speaker:1156

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Marc: rest was kind of fluff and they just were

Speaker:1157

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Marc: wanting to move CDs.

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Marc: You know the record industry, you know, but

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Marc: you're right, the ones that kind of have

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Marc: this whole arc of a story really kind of

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Marc: make it special.

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Marc: If you were in a question five here, if you

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Marc: were to say perfect day, how would you

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Marc: define that?

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Marc: From time you get up to time you go to bed,

Speaker:1166

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Marc: what would be the component parts of a

Speaker:1167

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Marc: perfect day for you?

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Jennifer: I think, a little bit of balance, you know.

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Jennifer: I think if I, you know, you get up, you

Speaker:1170

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Jennifer: have your coffee, have a quiet morning

Speaker:1171

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Jennifer: where you're not rushed, be able to go to

Speaker:1172

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Jennifer: the gym, work out, maybe go for a hike or

Speaker:1173

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Jennifer: something If you don't want to go to the

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Jennifer: gym, spend time with my husband and family

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Jennifer: in there, maybe have lunch with everybody

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Jennifer: and then spend some time on set.

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Jennifer: You know, it's like if you could, if you

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Jennifer: would be on set for maybe four hours a day,

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Jennifer: you know, and then, like you know, have a

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Jennifer: nice dinner at a nice restaurant, watch

Speaker:1181

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Jennifer: maybe a great episode of Welcome to Rexham

Speaker:1182

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Jennifer: or something, and go to bed at 10,.

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Jennifer: You know I'm a person of simple pleasures,

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Jennifer: clearly.

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Marc: That's a very aspirational go to bed at 10.

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Marc: I don't know the last time I actually did

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Marc: that, but that would be wonderful.

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Marc: Now, last couple of questions.

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Marc: If you weren't doing what you were doing

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Marc: right now, what you know, if you're in some

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Marc: cosmic universe?

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Marc: You were not able to do this, what would be

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Marc: your second choice?

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Marc: What would you be doing for a living and

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Marc: how would you be occupying your day?

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Jennifer: I think I would be an interior designer.

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Jennifer: I'm pretty sure I really love it, like I've

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Jennifer: decorated so many homes and apartments over

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Jennifer: the years and I you know my love of that

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Jennifer: kind of overflows into like working with

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Jennifer: production designers and stuff.

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Jennifer: So I think if I had to not be in the

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Jennifer: industry, I think I would definitely go to

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Jennifer: school for interior design.

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Marc: Well, they're going.

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Marc: Instead of actors, it would be sofas.

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Jennifer: Right, exactly.

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Marc: So, josh, if you were to jump in your

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Marc: DeLorean and travel back in time to the to

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Marc: when you were 16, you had a piece of advice

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Marc: or a bit of guidance or something to 16

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Marc: year old you to make your in that moment,

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Marc: make your life better or set you on a

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Marc: different path.

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Marc: What would that piece of advice be?

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Jennifer: I would just say have more fun.

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Jennifer: I was a really serious kid Like I was.

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Jennifer: I was always kind of serious and worried

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Jennifer: about everything adding up and I think I

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Jennifer: would have just told myself to give myself

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Jennifer: a little bit of a break.

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Jennifer: But I wouldn't want to change my trajectory,

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Jennifer: like.

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Jennifer: I definitely feel very grateful for the

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Jennifer: life that I have and I do love my life, but

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Jennifer: I do think I could have relaxed a little

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Jennifer: bit, a little bit younger.

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Marc: Fantastic, Fantastic.

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Marc: Well, I really appreciate you taking time

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Marc: out with me and you know it's being it's

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Marc: Friday, you know you're kind of looking at

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Marc: the weekend.

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Marc: I appreciate you taking time out.

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Marc: Of course, See you next week.

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Marc: You do a podcast as well.

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Jennifer: I do, yeah, so I have a book club through

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Jennifer: my production company, apartment 3C, and

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Jennifer: it's called Jen's Bookshelf and the podcast

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Jennifer: is called the Bookshelf with Jennifer

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Jennifer: Morrison and I pick 10 books a year and we

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Jennifer: highlight them and I post quotes from the

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Jennifer: podcast is my interviews with the authors

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Marc: You're a reader.

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Marc: Very good, I need to do more of that.

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Marc: I listen to audiobooks, because regular

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Marc: books just put me to sleep, you know.

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Marc: So I got to do the audiobook thing while

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Marc: I'm driving.

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Marc: But again, I do appreciate your time and

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Marc: have a wonderful, hopefully relaxing,

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Marc: weekend.

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Marc: Hopefully we'll have a chance to catch up

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Marc: down the line.

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Jennifer: Thanks so much, Marc.

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Jennifer: Thank you, have a great weekend.

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Jennifer: Bye.

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Marc: All right, there you go, jennifer Morrison.

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Marc: Enjoy this chat quite a bit.

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Marc: I told you it was going to be kind of one

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Marc: of those crafty episodes talking about how

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Marc: the sausage gets made, as it were Insta

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Marc: sausage.

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Marc: It's television, of course, but it was a

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Marc: blast.

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Marc: Speaking with her, I mean she's been acting

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Marc: since she was 13, so it's you know she's

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Marc: had a good majority of her life in this

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Marc: industry.

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Marc: Don't forget to check out Jennifer's latest

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Marc: work directed a number of episodes Doctor

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Marc: Death Streaming right now on Peacock.

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Marc: The new season, season two, just kicked off.

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Marc: Again, I want to thank you for stopping by.

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Marc: It means a lot to me that you pop in each

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Marc: week and if this is your first episode,

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Marc: again, hey, thanks for sticking with me and

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Marc: hanging out.

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Marc: And you know great episodes to come.

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Marc: It's still a little bit up in the air.

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Marc: Maybe not an episode next week, we don't

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Marc: know.

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Marc: We're planning on it, making a big move

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Marc: down to the South Texas coast, going to be

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Marc: planting our studios on South Padre Island

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Marc: in Texas.

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Marc: That's where all this fun is going to

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Marc: emanate from going forward, so trying to

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Marc: live that Jimmy Buffett lifestyle.

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Marc: By the way, much love to Jimmy Buffett.

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Marc: I don't know if I ever sent out a little

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Marc: But you know going to try to keep that vibe

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Marc: going Flip flops, you know it goes All

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Marc: right.

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Marc: So I'll tell you what we will be back If

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Marc: not next week, it'll be the week after and

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Marc: I want to thank you again for being a part

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Marc: Don't forget StoryandCraftPod.com, the

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Marc: Hey, have a great weekend Again.

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Marc: Thank you so much.

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Marc: Be safe.

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Marc: By the way.

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Marc: I said weekend.

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Marc: You may be listening to this during the

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Marc: week.

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Marc: Who knows Whatever you're doing.

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Marc: Thank you for making Story and Craft a part

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