On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with actor, Lucy DeVito from the film “The Secret Art of Human Flight!” We chat about growing up with her parents, Danny DeVito and Rhea Perlman and her career acting in film and television. We also discuss her latest project, “The Secret Art of Human Flight.” Lucy shares personal anecdotes, including her fondness for theater, her family's influence, and her life as a new mother. This was a fun discussion of craft, career and family with a talented actor and producer.
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
00:48 Growing Up with Famous Parents
01:35 New Motherhood and Family Life
04:14 East Coast vs. West Coast Upbringing
06:19 Pursuing a Career in Acting
09:23 College and Early Career
19:10 Theater Life in New York
21:33 Balancing Life Between New York and LA
22:29 Family Heritage and Roots
23:35 Theater and Acting Journey
25:41 First Big Break in Acting
26:53 Preferences in Acting Mediums
29:45 Memorable Projects and Roles
31:25 The Secret Art of Human Flight
36:47 The Seven Questions
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Glad to have you here.
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Uh, today we are chatting
with Lucy DeVito.
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She's an actor, been in
film and TV for a long time.
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A new movie she has out called
The Secret Art of Human Flight.
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It is available right now.
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Video on demand, uh, VOD.
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Uh, you can check that out.
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Of course, her parents are Danny
DeVito and Rhea Perlman, and it
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was cool to chat with her What it
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Today is Lucy DeVito day
right here on story and craft.
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How are you doing this morning?
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Yeah, I'm good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like I said, I just I had
a baby, um, a month ago.
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And so I've been up for a little
while and, um, everything is good.
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You said you've been up, but,
uh, you know, at one month old,
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you're getting up constantly.
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Yes, exactly.
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The one thing I remember about back
when I was, uh, my first was born
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and my first one is 21 years old now.
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So it's a little, it's been a
minute, but I remember I, I,
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I was like, I work for myself.
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I have my own recording studio.
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I can just go.
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I can stay up all night, so I just
realized that the getting up and
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going back to sleep and I did all the
night feedings except for, I think,
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like three or four and I was like,
I'm just gonna stay up all night.
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So it's me and the dog and the baby
always for all three of my kids.
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So it was a bonding experience.
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I will say that.
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In fact, I, uh.
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I had a golden retriever at the
time and my baby, uh, she was, I
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guess, a couple of three months old.
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She just wanted to go and kind of lay out.
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He would curl up in a little ball and
she'd go lay on him and he just kind
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of like cuddler, you know, so I could
get up and go get a bottle, come back.
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And I've got, I've got a, he's,
he's almost five months old.
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It doesn't compare.
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I know as a golden retriever, he's
in his toddler phase right now.
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We had a golden retriever growing up too.
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Really?
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They were the best.
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His name was Ocean.
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He loved the water, obviously,
but he was, he was like, I get,
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I understand why he would like
take care that your older golden
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retriever would take care of the baby.
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Cause like our ocean would
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And, um, whenever we were at the beach,
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would go in with us to like babysit us.
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Really?
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So do you have a, as a
little boy or a little girl?
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Yeah, boy.
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Um, his name's Carmine.
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So how do you have
things kind of broken up?
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Are you, are you, uh, waking up multiple
times throughout the night or are you?
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And we are, we are, but we're
like multitasking, you know?
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And, um, yeah, right now he's with,
um, his dad, um, in the living room.
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So, you know, we're taking turns
and, um, sort of like getting
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into a routine, which is good.
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And we have a little help.
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A month ago.
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That's that month has probably
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So fast.
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I can't believe it.
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It's been, it's, it's been like in a,
I'm in a fugue state, but a joyful one,
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you know, it's really, really amazing.
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Now, did you grow up West Coast or did
you grow up in, uh, I, every time I think
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of your dad, I always think Jersey, you
know, so where, where did you grow up?
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Yeah, we, I grew up in Los Angeles.
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Yeah, I grew up in Los Angeles, but
we're, um, I grew up also coming
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to the East Coast quite often.
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Like, um, you know, if my parents
were working there or, um, my, you
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know, I mean, my dad's whole side
of the family was, is in Jersey.
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So like we would spend summers
there and Christmas there, you know.
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Um, and I always felt very
connected to the East coast.
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I always loved New York.
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And then, um, so I, but I
grew up like proper in LA.
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So both of your folks, are
they both East coasters?
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My dad's from, uh, my dad's from
Jersey and my mom's from, uh, Brooklyn.
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You're definitely,
definitely East coaster.
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Yeah, I know.
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And, uh, Every, yeah, I feel like very,
like that's ingrained in that, in that
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culture back, you know, the East coast
and then I, I lived in New York and
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I still have a, I go back and forth.
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I was there, um, for like, you
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You know, I, um, I still love it.
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So I'm, uh.
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Trying to keep it bi coastal as
much as I can and we'll see how that
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goes with having a child, but Your
folks are they living in la now?
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Uh, do they live full time there still?
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Yeah So they must be over the
moon having the new baby around.
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Oh, yeah, they're so thrilled and
um Yeah, my sister's around and
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she has a baby who's one and a
half and, um, my brother's nearby.
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And, um, so the, the family's like
in very close proximity, everyone's
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able to see each other a lot.
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And that's been so helpful too.
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And just like, a great comfort.
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Um, so we'll be able to just like
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of time together as a family anyway.
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So it'll, but you have a brother and
a sister or do you have more siblings?
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No, that's it.
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Brother brother and sister.
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Now growing up in LA, did you have
the thing where of course your
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folks are working in the business?
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Is that kind of your ecosystem, you
know, socially, was it other, you
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know, other kids whose folks are
working in the, you know, in the
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entertainment industry or where you
kind of had your own thing going on?
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No, somewhat, you know, I mean
like, of course we're, you're, my
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parents are both in the business.
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So like, uh, we were friendly
with a lot of other actors and
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people in the industry, of course.
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But like, um, you know, I went to, um,
school, private school in the Valley
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and, um, Um, you know, people, different
walks of life, but, you know, coming
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from Los Angeles, like a lot of people
are connected to the, the industry here.
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So, but, um, but yeah, no, I
mean, uh, we got, I got a taste
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of like a lot of different, you
know, walks of life and stuff.
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So, um, but we were like, you know,
I grew up like going to sets and
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you know being around the film and
tv industry pretty well Growing up.
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Was that something that was kind of
like you got to do this again Was
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it something that you just kind of
got bored with or was it something
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that was turning you on like?
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Oh, wait a minute.
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This is no, I I don't I always enjoyed it.
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I always like I mean, maybe it's
one of the reasons why I'm like
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still, I want, you know, I'm
pursuing the career of an actor is
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I just love, I love being on sets.
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I love, um, I always loved going,
visiting my parents and being around, um,
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you know, the people making the stuff,
um, It's just like a fun atmosphere.
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And I always found it like
really, really interesting.
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Like, uh, my, my grew up, my father ran
car dealerships, you know, so I could
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not stand around car dealerships, you
know, a little different than that.
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I think, I think what you're doing,
uh, growing up was probably a lot
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more fun, but what were you up to when
you're, you're coming up in school
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was, um, where the arts theater was
that on the agenda where you were
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a sporty kid, you know, you're, you
know, what were you up to in school?
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I, uh, I definitely was not sporty.
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Um, I, um, was, uh, but I was
always like, yeah, I was always
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in theater in high school.
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And then, and I did like, you know,
extracurricular theater programs.
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And then I, and then I went to college
and I did theater there and then
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went to New York and did theater.
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So I've kind of like, um, always been.
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Like since high school, always
been, um, really into it.
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And then, and then the arts of in other
ways, I like, I love to draw and paint
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and stuff, and I'm not really musically
inclined, but, um, I appreciate it.
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Now, is your husband, is he, is he an
industry kind of guy or is he a civilian?
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No, no, he's not.
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He's civilian.
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Yeah, lawyer.
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Yeah.
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Oh, really?
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Okay.
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Very good.
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Very good.
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Yeah.
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As you're coming up, you, you said
you went to, uh, uh, you, you spent
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some time in New York after school,
but where'd you go to college?
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Did you go on, uh, no, I went
to Brown in Rhode Island.
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Which was a really,
really cool experience.
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And, um, I loved it there.
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It was, um, you know, I really, I made
some great friends and the teachers were,
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you And just the, the atmosphere there
was like, so, so East Coast College.
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Um, it was.
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Um, it was beautiful.
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And, um, they had like a, like, I
could, I was able to take lots of
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different classes in the theater, um,
in the theater program without actually
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like, um, being a theater major.
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I was, I was like actually
an art history major.
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And, um, and you were able to also
like be in all the school, all the
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plays and you know, all of that stuff.
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So, um, And then, you know, after moving
to New York afterwards, so many people
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from college moved to New York and there's
a great, um, you know, community of people
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there in, in the city and lots of people
I'm still friends with and, and lots
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of people who, um, are in the business
who went, who I went to college with.
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Um, who are still doing,
still doing it question.
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I always have to ask if, if someone has
parents who are in the industry, was
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it something that was, obviously it was
always there, but was it encouraged?
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Was it, did anybody like try to
discourage you from doing this or
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give you lots of cautionary tales?
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Um, coming up, what was the, what
was the angle your folks took on it?
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Um, they were, um,
really supportive of it.
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Um, once like professionally, once I
went to college, so, um, they were,
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I mean, supportive of it, you know,
in school and stuff, but they didn't
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really want, they didn't want me to,
um, pursue acting as a, as a child,
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you know, in a professional sense.
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So, and I, I appreciate that looking back,
you know, that I was like, you know, I
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had this really kind of, I just went to
school and did my thing and didn't try to.
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Um, you know, work as a kid.
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Sometimes you have kids go become
phenomenal, just wonderful adult
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actors and other ones go a whole
different direction, you know, so I
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understand your parents hesitancy there.
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Yeah, certainly.
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Yeah.
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And my, you know, we're, um, the
thing is like my, I, I watched my
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parents go through all, even though
they're like very successful, they do
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have their ups and downs and stuff.
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So like, I wasn't, um, blind to the fact
that it's a difficult career and full of,
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you know, rejection and, you know, it's
a really like tough thing to break into.
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And, um, so like, I think that they were,
and they were very like, you know, Um,
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honest with me about all of those, you
know, pitfalls and stuff, but like at
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the same time, like very supportive, you
know, and we're like, um, we, you know,
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our, at this point we are peers, you
know, we work together and, um, support
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each other and, um, help each other out.
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So, um, they were, you know.
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They were like, spoke to me real talk,
you know, realistically, but, um,
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but, but at the same time, we're very
encouraging and are so encouraging still.
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And just, you know, we're
each other's biggest fans.
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So always supporting each other.
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Are your siblings, are they into the,
are they acting as well or have they
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kind of chosen a little bit different?
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No, they're not acting or, uh,
Gracie's, my sister sometimes acts.
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Um, but she's primarily an,
uh, visual artist, a painter.
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And, um, but my brother
is in the business.
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He's, um, a producer and
we actually work together.
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We run a company together with,
um, with my dad and, um, where
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we develop shows and, and.
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So, um, so we're, we're, I'm
working on, you know, the, the
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producing side of things as well.
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Um, and with him, with family.
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So, and that's been amazing.
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And, uh, you know, Way to,
way to work with our, our
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family and keep it very close.
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Well, that is very cool
that you're able to do that.
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Uh, and, and cause some families when they
work together, don't always, uh, want to
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be around each other that much, you know,
that can be kind of a cool bonding thing.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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When you were coming up, what
things were you watching?
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What was it, uh, as far
as film or TV that was.
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I don't want to say inspiring you,
but what was your thing coming up?
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Did you have a lot of
similarities as far as like kind
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of what your folks were up to?
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Or are you kind of going your own way?
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No, I mean, I was like, they
showed me like all of, you know,
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their favorite movies and stuff.
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Like, you know, I, Watch a lot of like,
you know, the Frank Capra's and, you know,
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the, um, like the classics and stuff.
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And, um, you know, my dad was
really into Fellini, you know?
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So like, I, there was a period of
time when I like became obsessed
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with Giulietta Messina and, you know.
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Nights of Cabiria was
like my favorite movie.
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Um, but then, you know, I was also like,
um, like, I guess it was WB at the time.
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WB.
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Um, I watched, you know, Buffy the vampire
slayer and party of five and then, you
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know, must see TV friends and Seinfeld
and all of that, you know, so, um, Like
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getting home to, you know, and by at my,
when I was that age, you know, we would,
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if we couldn't be home at the time that it
was shown and we would record it on VCR.
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Yeah.
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My kids unfortunately do, they just don't
know the struggle that was involved.
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Yeah.
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In A VCR and pro, you're the
last generation that knew how to
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program the VCR, you know, so.
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Yeah.
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And it, it was, you know, it was fun.
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Like, you know, we would.
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Watch things and talk about them the
next day at school, you know, so, um,
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That was always that was always fun.
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Um, but yeah, no, I I um I'm trying
to think, you know, I, I love like, I
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love like the, you know, I love like
Chinatown and, you know, movies of the
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70s, um, you know, obviously like The
Godfather and all of that, um, but I,
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uh, and then, and, and, you know, I
like a lot of like goofy 80s movies.
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Um, I'm the same way the other,
the other night I watched, uh,
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what did I watch the other night?
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It was a John Candy
movie, uh, summer rental.
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I don't know if you remember that.
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Oh yeah.
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Well, we, I really liked, um, great
at the great outdoors, the one with
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him, him and Dan Aykroyd in the woods
and the bear and everything that
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when we had on VHS, you know, that
like, um, what else did we have?
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We had princess bride
watched so many times.
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Um, the Goonies.
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Um, just, you know, all of
those, uh, like 16, 16 candles.
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I have all these videotapes and my
kids were looking at me like, why
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don't you get rid of all those?
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You know, it's like, no, I cannot.
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It's like, it's like some kind
of relic from a bygone era.
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We had so many and I wish,
I wish we had kept them.
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Even the DVDs we got rid of.
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And I'm like, Oh God,
it would be so great.
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Really?
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Yeah, nobody's got my DVDs from me.
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I'm those are definitely in
storage and a storage unit.
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No, I know.
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I, I, we are kicking ourselves now that
we, that we did that because now I, you
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try to look for a movie and you can't even
find it streaming sometimes or you know,
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you can't, like, I loved like browsing,
you know, seeing like what it is we had
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and you know, the, the special collection
that an individual has and then, but
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You know, nowadays you're browsing and
it's like what the algorithm gives you.
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Yeah, you know, the thing that sucks
about it is that you don't get all
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the features you do on a DVD, all the
outtakes, all the, uh, the commentary.
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I always thought that was cool, watching
a movie when you have somebody giving
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commentary of what it was like to
make it and all that kind of stuff.
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I thought that was such a cool
thing that, uh, I don't know,
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maybe it'll be like vinyl.
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It'll come back around, you know,
maybe my kids, when they get a
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little older, it'll be a thing.
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No, I think it will.
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I think it, I think that.
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Um, people are, um, are doing that more,
uh, and, uh, well, what was the path
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for you after you got out of school?
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Uh, when you left Brown, was
it, was, were you on the path?
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Like, I'm going to go do this thing.
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Or did you have some detours, uh,
doing other kinds of vocational.
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No, I, I sort of was one set mind.
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I went to, I, I spent one year in
LA, um, living at home after college
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and, um, and then, uh, and then moved
to New York and, um, immediately
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started doing theater there.
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Um, I, My first job was, um,
at the ensemble studio theater.
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It was, um, a play called Lucy actually.
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And, um, and I played the character Lucy.
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Um, and that was, it was my first,
like, you know, real off, it was off,
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off Broadway, you know, but like my
first like real professional job.
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And, um, That place, Ensemble Studio
Theater, became like a home for me
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and this creative source and social
network of other actors and writers
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and directors and, you know, this sort
of like hub of like just, you know,
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you know, young people, older people,
people, it had been around since the 60s.
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So there were like older members who
were like had, you know, so much wisdom.
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And then the young ones like
us who were like just hungry
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and trying to get things going.
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And, um, you know, it was a
really like wonderful, um,
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meeting of like these artists.
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And, um, and yeah, I just like
really respected everyone there.
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And we got to, you know, make,
put on plays, you know, there was
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a young writers group there that,
um, would constantly put on plays.
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Put up their work and you could,
you know, be a part of that.
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And, um, was this in New York?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Well, so that's kind of the place to be.
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If you're doing that, I think, uh, God,
years and years and years ago, I'd seen an
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interview and somebody said, New Yorkers,
where you go learn the craft and then you
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move to LA to actually apply it when it
comes to working on camera or whatever.
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But, um, yeah, yeah.
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But to me, it'd be so fun to be young,
to be in New York with a lot of,
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uh, fellow, uh, theater weirdo kids.
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It was the best.
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How many years were you out there for?
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Uh, I mean, I was there for
like on and off, like 12 years.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, there were a few
like stints back in LA.
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Um, Like I got, I got a job out here,
you know, for a little bit and then, um,
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was here and then went back to New York.
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And, um, and then, um, yeah, it was, I,
I feel, I still, I feel like torn still,
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like I still love, love New York and
we'll, you know, take any opportunity
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to, to work there and, and also go just
visit and live there for, you know,
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stints of, yeah, you got a big extended
family out there, I'm assuming, don't you?
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Yeah.
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So were your folks calling you up going,
Hey, you need to go see your aunt.
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So and so or the, you know, did
they ever give you those calls?
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Like you got to go see the family.
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No, no, not really.
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They're great.
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But they, they, it was great.
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Like I, um, it was a great excuse for
them to come out, you know, to, and to.
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For all of us to spend more
time in the city or like, you
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know, Jersey or wherever it was.
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Now your, your dad's family, of
course, Italy, you know, uh, and then
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your mother's family, Jewish, where,
where's your, where's your mother,
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where are your mother's people from?
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They're from, um, Poland and Russia.
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00:22:41,439 --> 00:22:48,850
Yeah, so, um, yeah, my grandpa came
over when he was like one from Poland.
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Oh, really?
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So your mother was first
generation born here.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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My grandma, my grandma was born here.
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Um, but her, so my great grandma
came over, um, from Russia.
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Um, yeah.
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And they, they, her side of the family
all grew up in or lived in Coney Island.
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And, um, and then.
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Yeah, my grandpa, I'm not exactly
sure, but they ended up, like, I
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think meeting in Coney Island also.
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I'm not, I'm, I'm a little fuzzy on the
details of where they met and stuff,
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but, um, Her side of the family is, yeah,
uh, Jewish, Poland, Polish, Russian.
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So was, was theater a performance on
either side of your parents family?
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Were, was this already something
there or were your folks, the first
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ones out of the gate that decided,
Hey, we're going to go do this thing?
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They weren't, no, they were, um,
they were the first ones, you know?
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Um, my, my grandpa, he was,
um, well, he was, In the war.
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And he worked in a doll factory
afterwards and actually, but, uh, he
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had always wanted to, like, he always
loved, um, the business and everything
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he loved and, um, he became like a
staple on, um, like a, a regular on.
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At the guy at the bar at
Cheers, um, . Oh, really?
427
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Yeah, my mom got him and he would just,
he was an extra and then sometimes
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they would like start to give him lines
and stuff and, um, yeah, they ended up
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moving, my grandparents moved out here.
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Um, when, um, I think right
around when my parents.
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work.
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Did you have a fair amount of
time with your grandparents?
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Yeah, I did.
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Yeah, I was very lucky.
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Um, yeah, they, they passed away.
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Um, you know, about maybe 10 years
ago or a little less than that.
437
00:24:55,820 --> 00:25:00,190
Um, so they were there, but they
were there through my childhood.
438
00:25:00,190 --> 00:25:04,460
You know, they came to all the school
events, you know, they saw me in school
439
00:25:04,460 --> 00:25:11,565
plays and You know, we got to, you know,
celebrate holidays and all of that.
440
00:25:11,764 --> 00:25:14,414
So I was, I was really like, I'm envious.
441
00:25:14,414 --> 00:25:18,025
You have, you have both the Italian food
and a Jewish, uh, Eastern European food.
442
00:25:18,335 --> 00:25:22,665
Yeah, no, we knew we know how to eat lips.
443
00:25:22,665 --> 00:25:26,534
That's so I got, I got to know
like who's doing the cooking and
444
00:25:26,544 --> 00:25:28,084
the family mostly is your mother.
445
00:25:28,084 --> 00:25:29,264
Your dad, can they both cook?
446
00:25:29,455 --> 00:25:30,104
They both can cook.
447
00:25:30,495 --> 00:25:30,774
Yeah.
448
00:25:30,774 --> 00:25:31,925
They both can cook.
449
00:25:32,415 --> 00:25:34,425
Um, and they're both really good at it.
450
00:25:34,425 --> 00:25:34,735
Yeah.
451
00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:40,550
My dad, my dad really like, you know,
he's, he's really good at good at pasta.
452
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,719
I'm really good at pasta.
453
00:25:41,919 --> 00:25:44,479
Now, when did you kind of
shift things into gear?
454
00:25:44,479 --> 00:25:46,689
You know, you're out of, you're, you're
in New York, you're doing your thing.
455
00:25:46,689 --> 00:25:48,309
You are having your stints in LA.
456
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:52,060
Uh, but when did it kind of shift into
gear where you're really, you know, you
457
00:25:52,060 --> 00:25:56,469
could call yourself, I'm a working actor
about, yeah, I would say like around,
458
00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:04,750
um, my mid twenties, um, you know, I,
I, I'd, I'd, done some plays, I'd done
459
00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:11,779
regional theater, um, and then, um, you
know, little bit parts here and there.
460
00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:19,699
And then, um, I, I got a, um, I was
doing a show off Broadway and, um,
461
00:26:19,719 --> 00:26:25,310
worked with some really great people
and, um, and ended up getting a part
462
00:26:25,330 --> 00:26:35,025
on an, um, ABC family show, um, Melissa
and Joey and, um, yeah, so I did.
463
00:26:35,305 --> 00:26:40,745
Um, and that was like a great, great
first job, you know, it was not my first
464
00:26:40,745 --> 00:26:46,495
job, but it was the first like regular,
I was, I was there all the time and
465
00:26:46,495 --> 00:26:49,155
really got to like, um, be a part of it.
466
00:26:49,165 --> 00:26:50,685
I was like a big part of it.
467
00:26:50,785 --> 00:26:53,065
And, um, for a couple of years.
468
00:26:53,215 --> 00:26:55,095
Well, did you have any kind of preference?
469
00:26:55,145 --> 00:26:58,525
Uh, did you develop any preference
when it came to being on camera?
470
00:26:58,525 --> 00:27:03,530
It was like film or TV to, was there
any, um, Genre you liked the best?
471
00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:07,760
Well, not genre, but I mean, did you
like the process of shooting TV or
472
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,360
film or did, what did you even have?
473
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,639
No, I, I, I didn't at the time.
474
00:27:11,639 --> 00:27:17,569
I mean, I, I felt like, and I still
don't know which one I'm, if I like
475
00:27:17,619 --> 00:27:22,889
one or the other more, but, um,
I think they're all really fun.
476
00:27:22,910 --> 00:27:30,379
I, I most recently did, um, a
play, which is, was amazing.
477
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,504
Um, And that process, you
know, is so different.
478
00:27:34,514 --> 00:27:39,155
That's like with all the rehearsal
and, you know, getting up and doing
479
00:27:39,155 --> 00:27:45,425
the show eight times a week, you
know, is, is a, is a really like, um,
480
00:27:45,614 --> 00:27:53,365
demanding and, but like, Exhilarating,
you know, way to perform, but I guess
481
00:27:53,365 --> 00:27:56,405
when you're doing something multiple
times throughout the week, you got
482
00:27:56,405 --> 00:27:57,625
to find a way to keep it fresh.
483
00:27:57,645 --> 00:28:00,445
I'm assuming, you know, because
you're doing this every day.
484
00:28:00,465 --> 00:28:05,175
Was that ever a challenge or did it ever
get to be like, you know, uh, not boring,
485
00:28:05,185 --> 00:28:10,984
but yeah, I mean, it depended on the, it
depends on the play and the people, but
486
00:28:10,984 --> 00:28:13,124
like for the most part, it's, um, yeah.
487
00:28:13,574 --> 00:28:15,995
Yeah, I mean, sometimes you wake
up in the morning, you're like,
488
00:28:16,044 --> 00:28:17,175
I don't want to do this again.
489
00:28:17,835 --> 00:28:22,415
But then, you know, I always, once
it's, and it's also like, I found
490
00:28:22,415 --> 00:28:26,675
sometimes you're like, the moment
before is like the moment where
491
00:28:26,675 --> 00:28:27,905
you're like, Oh, I don't know.
492
00:28:27,905 --> 00:28:31,185
And then once I'm out there,
I'm, I'm enjoying it, you know?
493
00:28:31,705 --> 00:28:37,825
Um, but yeah, I mean, and, uh,
but like schedule wise, you know,
494
00:28:37,825 --> 00:28:41,254
doing TV and film can be really.
495
00:28:42,074 --> 00:28:48,355
a lot, a lot, um, less demanding,
but, um, but, and also I love
496
00:28:48,355 --> 00:28:50,965
like the intimacy of, of film.
497
00:28:51,194 --> 00:28:58,144
And, um, you know, just like being,
you know, having the camera close
498
00:28:58,144 --> 00:29:04,584
up and, and, you know, not having to
project and, you know, having, you
499
00:29:04,584 --> 00:29:10,990
know, vulnerable intimate moments or
quiet moments and, um, You know, and,
500
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,340
and lots of TVs like that at times too.
501
00:29:14,590 --> 00:29:17,320
Have you directed or do you
have any aspirations to direct?
502
00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:18,570
You said you produce, but.
503
00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:24,000
Yeah, I think maybe one day I think
that like the, if the right thing came.
504
00:29:24,490 --> 00:29:27,980
came along, I would definitely
be interested in that.
505
00:29:28,439 --> 00:29:34,150
Um, I haven't been like proactive
about seeking that out at the
506
00:29:34,150 --> 00:29:39,860
moment, but like, I think that,
um, there's, there's possibility.
507
00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:40,310
Yeah.
508
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:44,760
In my future, I would, I would
like to, um, test out directing.
509
00:29:45,425 --> 00:29:45,705
Yeah.
510
00:29:45,755 --> 00:29:50,475
As far as your folks library of stuff,
they did, uh, what, what kind of
511
00:29:50,485 --> 00:29:53,185
sticks out in your mind is like that.
512
00:29:53,215 --> 00:29:55,285
I love that project or that thing.
513
00:29:55,295 --> 00:29:59,025
My mom and my dad did, you know,
or, or, cause I always wonder what
514
00:29:59,025 --> 00:30:01,085
it's like because you know, your
parents intimately they're your
515
00:30:01,085 --> 00:30:02,915
parents, you know, but you watch them.
516
00:30:03,455 --> 00:30:07,215
What project sticks out like, Oh,
this is, this is, I love this thing.
517
00:30:07,405 --> 00:30:10,655
I mean, I'll, I'll go to
the obvious one is Matilda.
518
00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:14,910
Um, cause they're, well,
they're both in it.
519
00:30:14,970 --> 00:30:23,360
And that was like, we read Roald Dahl
books together and, um, me and Gracie
520
00:30:23,380 --> 00:30:28,730
brought, we, we were the ones that
introduced my parents to Matilda.
521
00:30:28,750 --> 00:30:29,270
Really?
522
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:30,080
Yeah.
523
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,380
Watching your father play a not
nice guy, you know, is that, was
524
00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:35,860
that, what was that like for you?
525
00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:39,805
Were you like, Well, I mean, That wasn't,
that wasn't anything strange to me.
526
00:30:39,805 --> 00:30:46,185
I mean, cause I grew up with him as the
penguin and, you know, Louie De Palma.
527
00:30:47,745 --> 00:30:53,665
He's, uh, he, I know him
as this lovable, wonderful.
528
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,070
Mench of a guy, but like his
characters can be, um, you know,
529
00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:01,740
grotesque or evil or whatever.
530
00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:04,920
And, but I, I like that, you know,
there's always like a sense of like,
531
00:31:05,550 --> 00:31:10,399
um, fun in, in the way that he, um,
portrays those, those characters.
532
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:11,890
Villainous characters.
533
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:12,260
Yeah.
534
00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:14,950
I think the first thing outside of, I
thought first thing I've ever watched
535
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:16,880
your father was, it was gotta be taxi.
536
00:31:16,930 --> 00:31:19,990
Uh, but I was too young to really
watch it, but it was, it was one of
537
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:23,360
those things that was on, I think
in reruns and quick question on the,
538
00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:25,820
uh, the secret art of human flight.
539
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:26,680
That's the name of the film.
540
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:27,000
Yeah.
541
00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:30,719
It's, uh, uh, how did this
project come, come your way?
542
00:31:31,030 --> 00:31:39,200
Yeah, um, well, I just kind of stumbled
into it, um, and I, uh, I just auditioned
543
00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:47,290
for the role, um, and, um, was lucky
enough to make a strong impression
544
00:31:47,290 --> 00:31:56,460
on the, the, the team, and, um, I
immediately really bonded with, um, H.
545
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:56,700
P.
546
00:31:56,700 --> 00:32:01,380
Mendoza as the director and Grant
Rosenmeier who's the producer and star
547
00:32:01,380 --> 00:32:06,850
of the movie, um, who he played, we
played brother and sister in it, um,
548
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:14,165
and, um, Yeah, it was just kind of
like this, um, really wonderful, like,
549
00:32:14,615 --> 00:32:16,875
collaboration that fell into place.
550
00:32:16,885 --> 00:32:22,275
It was not something I had, I had,
I just, I feel very lucky to have,
551
00:32:22,995 --> 00:32:28,435
um, You know, been there the right
time, you know, and be a part of it.
552
00:32:28,445 --> 00:32:31,065
And, um, yeah, it's a beautiful movie.
553
00:32:31,185 --> 00:32:34,015
Um, the secret art of human flight.
554
00:32:34,015 --> 00:32:39,965
It's very quirky and, but emotional
and, um, you know, deals with them
555
00:32:40,765 --> 00:32:45,885
with these big themes of grief and
loss and, you know, family and, um,
556
00:32:46,515 --> 00:32:53,610
you know, Paul Racey, obviously is, he
plays, um, an amazing character in it.
557
00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:56,010
And it's just a wonderful
actor and human being.
558
00:32:56,010 --> 00:32:59,330
And we all just had a really
wonderful time shooting it.
559
00:32:59,550 --> 00:33:01,200
Where did y'all shoot this?
560
00:33:01,690 --> 00:33:07,030
We shot it in the Berkshires
in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.
561
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:15,260
Um, Yeah, it was, uh, um, still during
like, you know, uh, the height of COVID.
562
00:33:15,330 --> 00:33:22,640
So we were all, um, basically everyone
on the cast and crew, we were all
563
00:33:22,650 --> 00:33:28,710
living on this, um, They put us
up in like a, at an old like camp.
564
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,530
So with cabins and, um, we were like,
yeah, y'all were doing like summer
565
00:33:33,530 --> 00:33:35,389
camp moviemaking kind of a thing.
566
00:33:35,390 --> 00:33:35,750
Basically.
567
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:36,210
Yeah.
568
00:33:36,340 --> 00:33:36,850
Yeah.
569
00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:38,770
And it was the most fun ever.
570
00:33:38,770 --> 00:33:44,800
We had bonfires, we, you know, we
ate together, we went to and from
571
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,459
work together and, um, and I think
it just made for like a really,
572
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,550
Wonderful working environment.
573
00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:59,820
We were all just like became very
close and I'm still very close with a
574
00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:01,540
lot of the people who I worked with.
575
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,970
And, and, you know, it was
kind of a rare situation.
576
00:34:03,970 --> 00:34:08,760
Cause like, you know, when you go do
a movie, you're like, you stop in,
577
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,460
you say, hi, you do your thing and
then you go home and, you know, it
578
00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:18,260
was really nice to have that, um,
Sort of that camaraderie everyone.
579
00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:22,220
Yeah, that that's the thing was just like
it was a whole it was just a group group
580
00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:30,620
group of great people and you know, we
There wasn't a lot of money involved.
581
00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:35,640
It was just sort of like, you know,
let's like make this big Let's let's come
582
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,070
together and make this generally kind
of kind of where do you fit into the uh,
583
00:34:40,140 --> 00:34:41,930
The puzzle of of the characters here.
584
00:34:42,490 --> 00:34:50,480
Yeah, so i'm um, the the movie starts
off with uh, ben who is played by grant
585
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:57,962
rosenmeier, um, who's the lead of our
film he has Recently lost his wife and
586
00:34:57,962 --> 00:35:06,895
um, I play his Sister, who it turns out,
or you sort of get the sense that they
587
00:35:07,795 --> 00:35:16,665
are each other's only family and, um, so
like my, my character's name is Gloria
588
00:35:17,065 --> 00:35:27,745
and Gloria is, um, kind of this very sort
of practical, caring, older sister, um,
589
00:35:28,345 --> 00:35:30,975
who, you know, really loves her brother.
590
00:35:31,485 --> 00:35:35,275
Um, and worries about him a lot.
591
00:35:35,355 --> 00:35:41,985
Um, and you know, really tries to take
care of him because he's been going,
592
00:35:41,995 --> 00:35:48,565
he's going through this like incredible
loss and then, um, trying to keep him,
593
00:35:48,905 --> 00:35:52,765
um, you know, from going off the rails.
594
00:35:54,040 --> 00:36:02,120
Ben's character, he, um, is, you know,
thinking of, you know, having thoughts
595
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,840
of suicide and, you know, it's pretty
dark, but, um, he comes across, you
596
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:15,470
know, this Paul Raci's character,
Mealworm, who, um, has, who claims
597
00:36:15,470 --> 00:36:17,700
that he can teach him how to fly.
598
00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:29,240
Um, and, um, so, you know, in, in the
weirdest way, he And Ben is so, you
599
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:35,830
know, distraught and, you know, he'll
do anything at this moment to like,
600
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,610
you know, even if it's ridiculous.
601
00:36:46,010 --> 00:36:47,700
Before we get going, I
got something real quick.
602
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:49,010
I call my seven questions.
603
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:52,310
First question I always,
I always ask cause food.
604
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:55,770
Typically I end up talking about at
least a few times every, every episode.
605
00:36:56,190 --> 00:37:00,310
Um, What, what is your
favorite comfort food?
606
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200
That thing you always land on,
like you having a killer day.
607
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:03,880
It sounds great.
608
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,200
Or if you just a bummer day,
it just makes you happy.
609
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:15,690
Um, like spaghetti marinara, like
just, yeah, put pomodoro sauce with
610
00:37:15,690 --> 00:37:18,870
like , you know, cheese very, very good.
611
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:19,770
You know, keeping it simple.
612
00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:19,890
Yeah.
613
00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:22,460
My daughter was in Italy
and uh, she got back.
614
00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:26,600
She's like, I can't do pasta anymore,
. She said, I was like, I was so envious.
615
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,205
I was like, you're the one, I wanna cut
you a pepe from the place, you know?
616
00:37:29,225 --> 00:37:29,645
Mm-Hmm.
617
00:37:29,785 --> 00:37:32,390
. Mm-Hmm . Now, if you were to sit
down with three folks, you're gonna,
618
00:37:32,420 --> 00:37:36,860
uh, have, uh, uh, coffee talk story
for a few hours, living or not,
619
00:37:36,860 --> 00:37:38,180
who would those three people be?
620
00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:41,420
You would like to sit down with and
have a, uh, have a cup of coffee with?
621
00:37:41,830 --> 00:37:42,550
Oh gosh.
622
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,270
Um.
623
00:37:44,115 --> 00:37:51,655
Well, I think I would go with, um, my
aunt Gigi, who, um, is my dad's sister.
624
00:37:52,055 --> 00:37:57,155
She passed away, um, a little
while ago and I just, um, I miss
625
00:37:57,155 --> 00:38:03,355
her to death and would, um, just
love to have her, uh, at coffee.
626
00:38:03,755 --> 00:38:11,240
Um, but, uh, I think, uh, Going back to,
yeah, I think like maybe someone like
627
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:16,480
Julietta Messina, that would be awesome
to see her, to meet her and talk to her.
628
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,470
Um, and, uh, who would the third one be?
629
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:21,820
I don't know.
630
00:38:21,820 --> 00:38:28,150
Someone like, um, I don't know,
like Ingrid Bergman or Oh, okay.
631
00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:28,450
Yeah.
632
00:38:28,510 --> 00:38:29,380
You know, yeah.
633
00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:32,350
somebody who was an icon at,
at there during their time.
634
00:38:32,980 --> 00:38:33,160
Yeah.
635
00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:33,280
Yeah.
636
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,390
You know, fabulous ladies, you
know, who, uh, who could give
637
00:38:37,390 --> 00:38:39,930
me, um, you know, sound advice.
638
00:38:40,910 --> 00:38:43,210
Talk about their, you know experiences.
639
00:38:43,660 --> 00:38:48,690
The next question I got for you is
Going back to when you were young.
640
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:51,180
Who's the first celebrity
crush that you had?
641
00:38:54,590 --> 00:38:55,400
I don't know.
642
00:38:55,490 --> 00:38:57,750
Um, let's see.
643
00:38:57,820 --> 00:39:03,240
I think that I really liked uh, I think of
644
00:39:05,950 --> 00:39:12,310
gosh, I guess it was someone, you know,
it was like Leonardo DiCaprio or Keanu
645
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:19,020
Reeves or, um, yeah, I think it was
those are the guys that had the hits
646
00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:22,190
out back when you were growing up, you
know, the big, the big blockbusters.
647
00:39:22,190 --> 00:39:26,740
So now the next question, now, if
you're going to be on an Island, you
648
00:39:26,750 --> 00:39:29,950
love being on the, it's a beautiful,
wonderful resort type situation.
649
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,599
You gotta be there for a whole year.
650
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:33,760
There's no streaming, no internet.
651
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,570
So you got to bring a DVD for like
one movie and a CD, uh, or I'll
652
00:39:38,570 --> 00:39:40,060
even give you a box set, whatever.
653
00:39:40,060 --> 00:39:42,470
But you know, you want to have
something to listen to and something
654
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:45,120
to watch that you could watch and
listen to over and over again.
655
00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:46,710
What would that DVD be?
656
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:48,899
What would that CD be for you?
657
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:49,960
These are hard questions.
658
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,010
Um, uh, gosh, I don't know.
659
00:39:54,010 --> 00:39:56,709
Um, I think, uh,
660
00:39:59,950 --> 00:40:02,980
you know, well, I'm going to go
with, I'm going to go with Notorious.
661
00:40:03,235 --> 00:40:05,425
my favorite movies.
662
00:40:06,135 --> 00:40:09,615
Um, and then, um, yeah,
I guess it would be.
663
00:40:10,235 --> 00:40:11,355
Music wise.
664
00:40:12,315 --> 00:40:19,075
Um, I think it would probably be like
the Beatles, like, you know, Revolver.
665
00:40:19,225 --> 00:40:19,445
Yeah.
666
00:40:19,445 --> 00:40:21,235
I always feel like a box
set with somebody like that.
667
00:40:21,235 --> 00:40:24,624
You'll never run out of music, you know?
668
00:40:24,625 --> 00:40:25,585
Um, okay.
669
00:40:25,585 --> 00:40:26,005
Very good.
670
00:40:26,005 --> 00:40:26,275
Very good.
671
00:40:26,275 --> 00:40:30,645
Now, if you were to define, uh, from
the time you get up to the time you
672
00:40:30,645 --> 00:40:34,945
go to bed, the component parts of a
perfect day for you, what would that
673
00:40:34,945 --> 00:40:36,765
be or what would those things be?
674
00:40:37,545 --> 00:40:45,540
It would be, um, you know, uh,
Great cup of coffee and, you know,
675
00:40:45,540 --> 00:40:47,990
a delicious scone or something.
676
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:55,420
Um, and it would be spending time
with, you know, My family with my
677
00:40:55,420 --> 00:41:03,460
husband, with, um, my kid now, my baby,
my parents, my sister, my brother.
678
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:10,630
Um, it would be being outside at some
point, you know, taking a walk or seeing,
679
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:16,290
seeing nature of some sort, um, and
doing something like a little bit active.
680
00:41:16,330 --> 00:41:22,500
Like I, um, you know, I like
to do yoga or, um, just taking
681
00:41:22,910 --> 00:41:24,610
a good long walk is great.
682
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:32,460
Um, And then, um, eating, eating some
really good food, eating, you know,
683
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:40,890
some great pasta or pizza, um, you know,
having, um, maybe like a glass of wine
684
00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:45,500
and, uh, yeah, and watching a movie.
685
00:41:46,005 --> 00:41:48,665
That's taking it easy throughout the day.
686
00:41:48,705 --> 00:41:49,915
That's exactly right.
687
00:41:50,115 --> 00:41:50,275
Yeah.
688
00:41:50,485 --> 00:41:53,545
And I'm sure, I'm sure sooner than
later be like, you know, some, a whole
689
00:41:53,585 --> 00:41:55,325
full night of uninterrupted sleep.
690
00:41:55,445 --> 00:41:56,075
That would be glorious.
691
00:41:57,925 --> 00:42:01,665
Now if, next question, if you weren't
doing this for a living, if you weren't,
692
00:42:01,965 --> 00:42:06,715
uh, this wasn't your vocation, what,
Else, could you see yourself doing that
693
00:42:06,715 --> 00:42:11,025
would bring you joy that you, that it
would be the number two choice for you?
694
00:42:11,105 --> 00:42:11,935
What would that be?
695
00:42:12,825 --> 00:42:19,355
Um, I think it would be,
um, gosh, it would be, um,
696
00:42:21,425 --> 00:42:21,855
I don't know.
697
00:42:22,205 --> 00:42:25,735
I think it would be
something like artistic.
698
00:42:25,805 --> 00:42:34,735
Like, uh, if I, if I could, um, you
know, paint or draw and, um, Do that.
699
00:42:34,885 --> 00:42:36,125
That's what I would love to do.
700
00:42:36,195 --> 00:42:36,835
Very good.
701
00:42:36,835 --> 00:42:42,125
And the last question I got for you is,
uh, If you were to jump in that to that
702
00:42:42,125 --> 00:42:47,895
delorean, um, go back to you know, 16
year old you and you got a piece of advice
703
00:42:48,015 --> 00:42:53,490
uh, either to put yourself on a a little
bit different path or To make that moment
704
00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:54,940
of your life just a little bit better.
705
00:42:55,150 --> 00:42:56,660
What would that piece of advice be?
706
00:42:56,670 --> 00:42:59,400
You have a couple of minutes with
16 year old you, uh, what, what kind
707
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,710
of advice are you passing along?
708
00:43:00,990 --> 00:43:07,250
Yeah, I think I would, um, just
say like to trust myself and to be
709
00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:16,650
myself and to, you know, have, um,
confidence in, um, in who I am.
710
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:22,240
You know, I felt like, I think that
when at that age, you know, if like, I
711
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:26,920
dealt with a lot of insecurities and so
that's, that's part of the rule book.
712
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,820
You have to be insecure.
713
00:43:27,820 --> 00:43:31,390
You're coming right out of, I guess,
junior high, middle school age range.
714
00:43:31,390 --> 00:43:33,910
Now you're trying to find
your, you know, your handle.
715
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,600
I, I would say that's probably
80 percent of the time.
716
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,350
I'd say it's the folks say the
exact same thing, you know,
717
00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:40,690
that it's going to be okay.
718
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:41,280
Stop stressing.
719
00:43:41,830 --> 00:43:42,020
Yeah.
720
00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:43,780
Lots of words of affirmation.
721
00:43:43,950 --> 00:43:46,430
Before we wrap up, you know,
you're talking about advice you
722
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:52,070
give yourself given that you have,
you can tap the well of knowledge
723
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,420
and experience your folks have.
724
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:59,570
What piece of advice from both of
them has really throughout the years
725
00:43:59,570 --> 00:44:03,000
really resonated with you that you
thought was just fantastic advice
726
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,130
for doing this gig for a living?
727
00:44:05,470 --> 00:44:05,940
Yeah.
728
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:09,269
Well, um, to
729
00:44:11,930 --> 00:44:20,420
I think to have thick skin, try to have,
build up the thick skin, but to, to really
730
00:44:20,420 --> 00:44:29,080
like listen to people and really, um, You
know, give, give people, um, space to,
731
00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:36,210
so that they could, you could bounce
off of them, you know, to, to really,
732
00:44:36,810 --> 00:44:40,690
um, uh, yeah, just be a good listener.
733
00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:43,890
Well, I, I so appreciate you sharing
time with me and having a one
734
00:44:43,890 --> 00:44:46,179
month old baby or God bless you.
735
00:44:46,180 --> 00:44:49,300
Well, congratulations on, on
the film, on the baby, and, uh,
736
00:44:49,310 --> 00:44:52,620
hopefully we'll have a chance, uh,
down the line, uh, connect again.
737
00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:53,600
That would be great.
738
00:44:53,650 --> 00:44:54,770
Thank you so much, Marc.
739
00:44:56,810 --> 00:44:57,580
All right, there you go.
740
00:44:57,580 --> 00:44:58,730
Lucy DeVito.
741
00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:01,150
Really enjoyed this conversation with her.
742
00:45:01,190 --> 00:45:03,750
Uh, the new movie you
can check out right now.
743
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,120
Video on Demand or VOD.
744
00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:09,410
It is called The Secret
Art of Human Flight.
745
00:45:09,490 --> 00:45:10,250
Uh, check it out.
746
00:45:10,450 --> 00:45:13,760
And, uh, tell you what, I want to
thank you very much for coming by
747
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,490
today, spending some time with me.
748
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:19,790
Uh, make sure to leave a review,
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00:45:19,790 --> 00:45:21,440
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750
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,280
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00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,490
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752
00:45:27,730 --> 00:45:29,390
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753
00:45:29,450 --> 00:45:30,985
As always, That's storyandcraftpod.
754
00:45:30,985 --> 00:45:32,500
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755
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:35,575
And that's it for me today.
756
00:45:35,605 --> 00:45:37,445
We will be back together soon.
757
00:45:37,795 --> 00:45:42,815
And you have yourself a great rest of your
day or weekend, whatever you got planned.
758
00:45:43,185 --> 00:45:46,595
Thank you for making this show
part of whatever you got going on.
759
00:45:47,005 --> 00:45:47,915
It is appreciated.
760
00:45:48,225 --> 00:45:51,584
And we'll see you next time
right here on Story and Craft.
761
00:45:51,585 --> 00:45:54,195
That's it for this episode
of Story and Craft.
762
00:45:54,405 --> 00:45:58,745
Join Marc next week for more conversation
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763
00:45:59,295 --> 00:46:03,105
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764
00:46:04,045 --> 00:46:06,445
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765
00:46:06,815 --> 00:46:09,245
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766
00:46:09,605 --> 00:46:12,915
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Actor
After becoming involved in high school theatrics in Los Angeles, actress Lucy DeVito confirmed her study of theater at Brown University. She later moved to New York, where she was cast as the title character in the new play “Lucy,” by Damien Atkins, at the Ensemble Studio Theatre.
DeVito was most recently seen in the critically-acclaimed “The Secret Art of Human Flight,” alongside Paul Raci, which released in theaters in July 2024 in the US,.
In 2023 Lucy made her Broadway debut in a play called I NEED THAT, which she performed at the Roundabout Theatre. The play was written by American playwright Theresa Rebeck, specifically for Lucy and her father Danny DeVito. On stage, DeVito worked with Nora Ephron and Delia Ephron in the original readings of their play LOVE, LOSS, AND WHAT WORE. She performed the play many times in New York at the Westside Theater and in Los Angeles at the Geffen Playhouse. Among her other plays are Stefanie Zadravec's THE ELECTRIC BABY (directed by May Adrales), Bruce Graham's ANY GIVEN MONDAY, THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK, in which she played Anne, and David Grimm’s THE MIRACLE AT NAPLES directed by Peter Dubois, BUMP, HOT MESS, HOW MY GRANDPARENTS FELL IN LOVE, and STEEL MAGNOLIAS.
In television, she was most recently heard voicing the lead character in FXX’s “Little Demon,” for which she also served as one of the executive producers, through production company Jersey Films 2nd Ave. Real life father Danny DeVito voiced the role of her character’s father, and also served as an executive producer.
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