Actor and writer Chris Baker from "Baker Daily" and Hulu's "The Estate" joins us on Story & Craft.
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Actor and writer Chris Baker from “Baker Daily” and Hulu’s “The Estate” joins us on Story & Craft.
Chris made his name on YouTube, then wrote and starred in his first feature film, “The Estate,” now on Hulu. We talk about making movies, finding inspiration, and carving out your own creative space.
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
Interview With Filmmaker Chris Baker
Web Series Success and Controversial Removal
LGBTQ+ Representation in Young Adult Entertainment
Influential Actors and Pleasing Audiences
Changing Landscape of Film and Streaming
Streaming’s Impact on Movie Viewing
Resurgence of Adult-Oriented Movies
Seven Questions
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Full Transcript
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The Mike First Love was always a movie's
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Chris Baker: end.
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Chris Baker: The amount of entertainment that I derived
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Chris Baker: from the theatrical experience.
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Chris Baker: It was like going to church for me.
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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.
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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.
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Marc Preston: Well, welcome back.
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Marc Preston: How are you?
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Marc Preston: I'm Marc Preston and this is Story and
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Marc Preston: Craft, and I am so jazzed that you are back.
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Marc Preston: If you've checked out previous episodes,
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Marc Preston: thank you for returning and checking out
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Marc Preston: another episode, and if you are new to the
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Marc Preston: show, welcome.
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Marc Preston: I promise I won't stink up the joint.
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Marc Preston: You'll enjoy yourself, I promise.
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Marc Preston: And I tell you, this week we have a great
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Marc Preston: episode a guy named Chris Baker you may
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Marc Preston: know him from YouTube or maybe not, but he
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Marc Preston: has got his very first feature length film
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Marc Preston: It's on Hulu.
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Marc Preston: It's called the Estate and he wrote it and
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Marc Preston: he is the lead actor in it and it's a
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Marc Preston: really cool conversation about movie making
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Marc Preston: And anybody who's an actor or a creative,
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Marc Preston: you know we're living in a very cool era
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Marc Preston: where you can create your thing and get it
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Marc Preston: into the world.
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Marc Preston: The inspiration's right here, with a guy
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Marc Preston: who got it done Again, chris Baker.
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Marc Preston: So glad to have him this week and I'm
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Marc Preston: It's a great conversation and don't forget
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Marc Preston: Story and Craft podcom.
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Marc Preston: Once again, story and Craft podcom.
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Marc Preston: Check it out.
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Marc Preston: All kinds of good stuff about the show.
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Marc Preston: You can learn about me if you so desire.
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Marc Preston: Social media links, of course.
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Marc Preston: You can send me a note if you would like,
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Marc Preston: or you can also leave a voicemail.
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Marc Preston: Kind of cool, once again, story and Craft
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Marc Preston: podcom.
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Marc Preston: And please by all means subscribe like,
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Marc Preston: Very super cool If you do that.
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Marc Preston: High five, five stars.
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Marc Preston: Whatever else you would like to do to kind
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Marc Preston: of spread the word, tell a friend.
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Marc Preston: You know we got some cool episodes in the
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Marc Preston: library already, some very cool episodes on
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Marc Preston: the way, but this week, right now, it's
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Marc Preston: Chris Baker Day, right here on Story and
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Chris Baker: Just so you know, I am in Mammoth right now
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Chris Baker: and my husband and all of his friends at
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Chris Baker: And they're like I don't think when that
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Chris Baker: I will let you know when I hear.
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Chris Baker: You'll let me know if you hear it, and then
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Chris Baker: we'll be good.
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Marc Preston: You know that makes it more interesting.
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Marc Preston: Probably hear my daughter texting me right
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Marc Preston: now, so it's like I got to put that on mute.
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Marc Preston: But, man, congratulations, by the way, on
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Marc Preston: On the film, what an accomplishment.
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Marc Preston: I mean I'm so glad that we're here To write
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Marc Preston: something and to also get it on Now.
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Marc Preston: I mean all the different things that have
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Marc Preston: I mean all along the line.
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Marc Preston: Definitely want to talk about the movie,
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Marc Preston: without a doubt.
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Marc Preston: I watched it the other night.
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Marc Preston: I mean, so it's, it was a lot of fun.
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Marc Preston: I will say that I had a blast.
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Marc Preston: In fact, last night I didn't, you know, I
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Marc Preston: saw you did the your YouTube series, the
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Marc Preston: somebody who is British because it affects
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Marc Preston: So I was like that.
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Marc Preston: It was hilarious.
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Chris Baker: I think that's had a lot of fun with that.
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Chris Baker: I think there's a medical term for that
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Marc Preston: Seriously, though, congratulations, man.
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Marc Preston: I have to say I'm kind of getting
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Marc Preston: it's a.
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Marc Preston: It's a fun introduction because I didn't
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Chris Baker: So, with my web series that was called
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Chris Baker: Baker Daily, what happened there was we did
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Chris Baker: really well and it was on Funny or Die and
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Chris Baker: on YouTube and it was about this very I
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Chris Baker: played up and I wrote it myself and it was.
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Chris Baker: It was about a very inept cable news anchor
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Chris Baker: who stumbles into impeaching Donald Trump
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Chris Baker: with this explosive story that he finds
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Chris Baker: daughters, and it was all it was.
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Chris Baker: I mean, it was right around 2017, 2018 when
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Chris Baker: and people were loving it and then, slowly,
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Chris Baker: there were some Trump people that found it
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Chris Baker: and then I think there was a whole Reddit
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Chris Baker: thread about how they needed to find my
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Chris Baker: address and I started getting death threats
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Chris Baker: and I and my producers we were kind of
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Chris Baker: the best course of action would be to to
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Chris Baker: For now I would hope that it could live,
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Chris Baker: but that that is the story and that is why
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Chris Baker: because I love comedy and I and I I love
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Chris Baker: I do love my life just a little bit.
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Marc Preston: of keep people honest in a way.
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Marc Preston: And going back to even George Carlin boy, I
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Marc Preston: because he got it right, didn't he?
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Marc Preston: But I was curious though, with with the
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Marc Preston: movie and looking at the diversity between
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Marc Preston: A little different, most certainly, but the
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Marc Preston: and I got a kick out of that.
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Marc Preston: But were you when you were coming up?
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Marc Preston: I mean, what were you like watching
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Marc Preston: it came to, you know, inspiration and stuff.
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Chris Baker: Yeah, I.
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Chris Baker: So I grew up basically watching Seinfeld,
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Chris Baker: friends and Sex in the City just about
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Chris Baker: every day and memorizing every single line,
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Chris Baker: every single intonation, every single sort
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Chris Baker: of thing about those characters.
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Chris Baker: I also watched a lot and even now of Family
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Chris Baker: Guy and South Park we talk about satire or
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Chris Baker: parody, or I mean truly ridiculousness,
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Chris Baker: that that just takes it so far and 30 rock
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Chris Baker: as well.
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Chris Baker: So those TV shows are really important for
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Chris Baker: me when I was growing up, but the my first
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Chris Baker: love was always movies and the amount of
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Chris Baker: entertainment that I derived from the
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Chris Baker: theatrical experience.
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Chris Baker: It was like going to church for me and it
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Chris Baker: truly was.
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Chris Baker: It was a religious experience, and the
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Chris Baker: longer I've been around, the longer I see
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Chris Baker: there are less and less movies where their
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Chris Baker: aim is to entertain, and I think right now
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Chris Baker: we have Marvel and we have a lot of I don't
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Chris Baker: know how to put it but like movies with a
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Chris Baker: They're like message movies that are often
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Chris Baker: independently made, that win a lot of
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Chris Baker: awards but no one goes to see, or if people
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Chris Baker: see them, they don't carry the same weight
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Chris Baker: and they don't have that life that can live
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Chris Baker: and be aired on cable forever.
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Chris Baker: I mean the movies that I watched on HBO
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Chris Baker: when I was way too young to see.
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Chris Baker: Them were like my best friend's wedding and
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Chris Baker: the net, and there were just these movies
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Chris Baker: that I thought were just there to divert
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Chris Baker: people for two hours and just entertain you
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Chris Baker: and just transport you.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, there's a Zen to just getting out of
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Marc Preston: your own head?
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Marc Preston: And I think not.
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Marc Preston: And wouldn't that be nice yeah that's where
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Marc Preston: I think Judd Apatow is sort of our.
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Marc Preston: He's a prince of these kind of movies.
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Marc Preston: I remember back when Chris I can't remember,
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Marc Preston: I think it's Chris also, I think it's his
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Marc Preston: name they did the American Pie and all
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Marc Preston: those.
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Chris Baker: I remember seeing an interview back when
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Chris Baker: they oh, I loved those movies, yeah, when
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Chris Baker: they came out.
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Chris Baker: I remember he was being interviewed.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, well, it's somehow like better than
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Marc Preston: But he said listen, there aren't any good
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Marc Preston: You know, and I remember him saying this is
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Marc Preston: an interview, there's not a lot of stuff in
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Chris Baker: I mean, I grew up watching, you know this.
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Chris Baker: This movie, the Estate, which is available
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Chris Baker: on Hulu now, is heavily based on movies
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Chris Baker: like Cruel Intentions and Wild Things, and
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Chris Baker: there was a smaller film but it was still,
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Chris Baker: I think was released by Sony many years ago
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Chris Baker: called Jawbreaker, with Rose McGowan and
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Chris Baker: these very very hippie, like crazy movies,
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Chris Baker: but where the characters were manipulating
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Chris Baker: each other with sex.
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Chris Baker: And now, when I see a lot of movies today
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Chris Baker: there, there's just not a lot of eroticism
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Chris Baker: with movies, with movies, and I think that
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Chris Baker: there's something about the availability of
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Chris Baker: porn and the sort of the politics sort of
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Chris Baker: changing and also China and a lot of movies
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Chris Baker: needing to open there as well as in the
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Chris Baker: States, and we've just become a much more
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Chris Baker: prudish society.
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Marc Preston: It's not kind of ironic because you think
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Marc Preston: we've become more liberal as the years go
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Marc Preston: Yeah, I mean, I grew up in the late 80s,
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Marc Preston: early 90s and that was kind of a thing.
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Marc Preston: I mean all the movies that were coming out
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Marc Preston: were unabashedly the erotic thriller.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, most certainly.
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Marc Preston: It's sort of like you had Ronnie
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Marc Preston: Dangerfield and all that stuff, and when
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Marc Preston: you say cruel intentions, it was not meant
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Marc Preston: to be taken seriously.
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Marc Preston: You're allowed to enjoy, kind of like, grab
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Marc Preston: a bottle of wine, sit down, enjoy these
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Marc Preston: despicable human beings, because it's just
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Marc Preston: a ride and I thought this was kind of.
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Marc Preston: It's not a movie I typically seek out, but
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Marc Preston: one of the things I really.
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Marc Preston: I think it's a sign of great writing and
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Chris Baker: Yeah, no, no, yeah, no.
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Marc Preston: I think the Oscars used to be more of an
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Marc Preston: Yeah, Ricky Gervais got it right when he
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Marc Preston: I think Ricky Gervais is kind of like we're
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Chris Baker: And it wasn't that fun to have people kind
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Marc Preston: Indeed indeed, yeah Well the question I've
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Marc Preston: Were you writing it with the intent of I'm
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Marc Preston: were you always like?
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Chris Baker: Yes, Originally it was written with myself
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Chris Baker: I would not have stood in the way of that
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Chris Baker: But you know, there are no gay movie stars.
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Chris Baker: You know, this film, I think, benefits from
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Marc Preston: You're actually movies back in the 70s, 80s,
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Marc Preston: It seems like they feature gay characters
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Marc Preston: They are definitely part of the fabric of
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Marc Preston: They're not a cliche, you know.
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Marc Preston: So I think there's got to be.
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Marc Preston: Do you think there's a little more progress
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Chris Baker: Absolutely there.
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Chris Baker: There, you know, I mean there's universal
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Chris Baker: Right now is I think they already completed
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Chris Baker: It's called Bros and it's with Billy
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Chris Baker: That's the first film of its kind and
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Chris Baker: there's a movie that was a Christmas film
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Chris Baker: on Netflix that did really well, called
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Chris Baker: Single All the Way, and you know there are
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Chris Baker: with starring roles for gay men that I can
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Chris Baker: think of just off the top of my head that
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Chris Baker: Things are changing and I'm very proud that
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Chris Baker: That that's growing and that's evolving and
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Chris Baker: I think the best part is that people are
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Marc Preston: Did you see the movie Booksmart, bonnie
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Chris Baker: I did yeah.
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Marc Preston: You know that was.
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Marc Preston: I thought that was kind of.
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Marc Preston: It was just sort of like my kids, jen and
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Marc Preston: one who's a sophomore in high school, and I
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Marc Preston: noticed that the when I was in high schools
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Marc Preston: I don't want to use the word novelty, but
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Marc Preston: if somebody is gay is like, oh well, that's
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Marc Preston: Well now, it's just, it's just not even
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Marc Preston: It's just, it's just part of what it you
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Marc Preston: So I think naturally the offshoot is we
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Marc Preston: It's not held up as a cliche.
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Marc Preston: What would you say like in the nineties?
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Marc Preston: We overly flamboyant character, their comic
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Chris Baker: And look, I want to.
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Chris Baker: You know, I should make clear that there is
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Chris Baker: no one that makes me laugh harder than Jack,
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Chris Baker: I mean that type of bitchy, horny, dumb,
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Chris Baker: Common stereotype of gay men is something
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Chris Baker: and those stereotypes usually have some
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Chris Baker: that the way that those things really
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Chris Baker: and two, if they have a kernel of truth in
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Marc Preston: So I think that you know, there are
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Marc Preston: definitely the exception proves a rule, you
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Marc Preston: know well, as far as going back, who were
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Marc Preston: they're either characters Jack, of course,
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Marc Preston: They're kind of like inspiration there's
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Marc Preston: Something about them makes sense to you and
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Marc Preston: it's fun and you like to catch every movie
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Marc Preston: they're in.
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Marc Preston: Who was that when you were growing up?
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Chris Baker: Oh my God, so many people.
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Chris Baker: You know movie stars.
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Chris Baker: I worshiped at the altar of movie stars, I
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Chris Baker: You know Brad Pitt and Gwyneth Paltrow and
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Chris Baker: Oh my gosh, I mean you can't.
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Marc Preston: You can't look at Brad Pitt.
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Marc Preston: He got looks of Brad Pitt Never.
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Marc Preston: He's got a man crush on him.
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Marc Preston: I don't care if you get your now.
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Marc Preston: You know what once upon a time in Hollywood.
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Marc Preston: That's, that's.
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Marc Preston: That's Hollywood, right there in a nutshell.
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Chris Baker: And I, you know, and there's Julia Roberts
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Chris Baker: and Sandra Bullock, and you know, just
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Chris Baker: That were that, were that were made to, I
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Chris Baker: I would watch any movie if there's, and I
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Chris Baker: And you know, I, I, julianne Moore was so
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Chris Baker: You know anyone who was ever in Boogie
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Chris Baker: Robert De Niro too, and there are a lot,
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Chris Baker: And also, you know, they made great films,
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Chris Baker: That was really, you know, that wasn't just
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Chris Baker: It was what they're calling was.
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Marc Preston: As a writer and of course you did the
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Marc Preston: thought that if they don't get all the
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Marc Preston: Is it like I really want this to be, you
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Marc Preston: know, kind of locked in, kind of like I'm
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Marc Preston: But he wrote the West Wing.
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Marc Preston: Oh, aaron Sorkin, yeah, he's very, all the
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Marc Preston: He wants them to be all in there.
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Marc Preston: Are you like more like that or are you more
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Chris Baker: I was into both, I think, our.
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Chris Baker: You know the director of the film, james
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Chris Baker: Kappner, who you know I've known for years,
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Chris Baker: who I collaborated with for so long.
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Chris Baker: I think we both went into this this feeling
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Chris Baker: so lucky with the cast that we had.
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Chris Baker: You know, eric Roberts plays my father, and
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Chris Baker: you know Eliza Koop from Happy Endings and
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Chris Baker: and Greg Finley, who's, you know, been on
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Chris Baker: all of these hunky TV shows for years,
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Chris Baker: Madarato, who is, you know, part of the
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Chris Baker: We were just so lucky to have these people
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Chris Baker: We sort of, without even saying anything,
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Chris Baker: So if there were things in the moment that
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Chris Baker: Eliza and I were playing off of each other,
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Marc Preston: I think watching this it's worth watching
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Marc Preston: just to see the relationship with the two
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Marc Preston: of you.
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Marc Preston: Just, it's just.
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Marc Preston: It is a, it's a, it's a well executed hot
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Marc Preston: So we'll say that that is.
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Marc Preston: You're all biased.
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Chris Baker: Yeah, I'm biased, obviously, but the we
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Chris Baker: knew that we had something really special,
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Chris Baker: comedically, when we would have to stop
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Chris Baker: You know the fact that that Eliza and I
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Chris Baker: before this and we, you know, we met about
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Chris Baker: She didn't audition, you know, we were just
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Chris Baker: talking about the role with her and the
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Chris Baker: chemistry that we had within literally 10
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Chris Baker: seconds of her sitting down was just so
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Chris Baker: plainly evident that people were like this
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Chris Baker: is it?
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Chris Baker: The role is hers and and she owned it.
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Chris Baker: So back to your question.
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Chris Baker: I, you know it depended on the person and I
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Chris Baker: think what we wanted was to make sure that
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Chris Baker: the information in each scene came out,
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Chris Baker: because it is structured as a mystery and
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Chris Baker: you want each piece to guide the audience
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Chris Baker: along.
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Chris Baker: But if there's no, we'll say there is.
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Marc Preston: There's a lot of.
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Marc Preston: There's at least a good handful of times
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Marc Preston: I'm like I don't know where this is, though.
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Marc Preston: I didn't know what's going there.
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Marc Preston: And how often do you watch a movie?
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Marc Preston: Now You're like you can just see the
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Marc Preston: trailer and go.
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Marc Preston: I know basically what's going to happen in
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Marc Preston: this movie.
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Marc Preston: You know a lot of romantic comedies like
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Marc Preston: this.
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Marc Preston: If somebody watches this, they say, oh, I
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Marc Preston: know where this is going.
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Marc Preston: They're wrong.
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Marc Preston: You know which is kind of fun.
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Marc Preston: You know to to be taken on, that, like I
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Marc Preston: said at the outset, you're kind of going to
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Marc Preston: ride in this movie.
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Chris Baker: So not easy to do, you know.
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Chris Baker: I think that we we really made sure and and
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Chris Baker: it took, it took a while to kind of it took
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Chris Baker: a while to find that magic where we were
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Chris Baker: not kind of like showing so much exposition
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Chris Baker: and and you know, detailing so much for,
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Chris Baker: for for the audience, that we were just
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Chris Baker: kind of, you know, talking at them rather
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Chris Baker: than making them feel where this story was
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Chris Baker: going and feel where the actors and the
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Chris Baker: characters would show on screen that they
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Chris Baker: had to make these decisions, that they had
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Chris Baker: to go to those places.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, you know, anytime Eric Roberts shows
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Marc Preston: up in a movie, it's just like you know it's
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Marc Preston: going to get good in a moment, not that it
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Marc Preston: wasn't good already, it's just.
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Marc Preston: You know, eric Roberts brings kind of his
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Marc Preston: own kind of special sauce to things.
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Marc Preston: You know, which was you know and I'm so.
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Marc Preston: There are things I want to discuss like but
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Marc Preston: if I do it'll be a spoiler.
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Marc Preston: Don't want to do that.
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Marc Preston: But when you, as far as the inspiration for
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Marc Preston: this was there, you talked about the like
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Marc Preston: cruel intentions and things like that had,
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Marc Preston: had you sat down and thought I want to make
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Marc Preston: a movie in that tone, in that vibe, or were
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Marc Preston: you just kind of like blank slate?
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Marc Preston: Or what inspired you to kind of sit down in
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Marc Preston: front of your editor or your your word
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Marc Preston: processor and start typing this up?
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Chris Baker: I had.
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Chris Baker: That's a good question.
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Chris Baker: The best way I can answer it is this I
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Chris Baker: thought that something was lost in movies
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Chris Baker: and I wanted to create a movie that I wish
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Chris Baker: existed and it was.
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Chris Baker: It would be something that was campy and
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Chris Baker: fun, but kind of dirty and sexy and a
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Chris Baker: little perverted and naughty and violent
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Chris Baker: and all of these sort of things that I felt
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Chris Baker: like really weren't a part of movies very
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Chris Baker: often anymore.
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Chris Baker: And the best way that I thought that could
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Chris Baker: make these characters do all of these
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Chris Baker: horrible things is money, because when you
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Chris Baker: look at our society today, people are less
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Chris Baker: and less religious, people are more
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Chris Baker: politically, you know, identified, but
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Chris Baker: after my experience with the web series, I
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Chris Baker: definitely didn't want to touch anything
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Chris Baker: political.
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Marc Preston: After after that, it's probably like you're
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Marc Preston: staying not even in the same zip code of
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Marc Preston: anything.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah.
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Chris Baker: So so the thing that people seem to worship,
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Chris Baker: no matter who they are, no matter where
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Chris Baker: they're from, no matter what their gender
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Chris Baker: identity is, no matter what their sexuality
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Chris Baker: is, no matter what their race is, our
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Chris Baker: classes is money White people, black people,
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Chris Baker: rich people, poor people.
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Marc Preston: Okay, Well, you also touched on the whole
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Marc Preston: status thing.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, again, it's not a family movie, but I
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Marc Preston: mean, come on, this is a pure like date
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Marc Preston: night bottle of wine, just kick back.
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Marc Preston: And I mean it's on Hulu, it's easily
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Marc Preston: accessible, of course.
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Changing Landscape of Film and Streaming
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Marc Preston: But when you were you coming, did you come
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Marc Preston: from a family that was creatively inclined,
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Marc Preston: or are you kind of the first one in the
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Marc Preston: family to kind of jump into this pool?
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Chris Baker: The very, very first one.
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Chris Baker: Yeah, I was a little good student and I
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Chris Baker: worked really hard in school and I ended up
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Chris Baker: going to great college and I was, but I was
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Chris Baker: studying film while I was there and so I
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Chris Baker: think it was always a foregone conclusion
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Chris Baker: that I would be doing this.
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Chris Baker: But it it took these different turns, but
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Chris Baker: my family was always very appreciative of
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Chris Baker: the arts and loved loved, so you had the
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Chris Baker: support.
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Marc Preston: In other words, this was not like what are
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Marc Preston: you doing?
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Marc Preston: Yeah, choose a more sensible gig.
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Marc Preston: What are you doing?
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Marc Preston: They were, they were getting behind you.
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Chris Baker: No, yeah, To know me is to know that there
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Chris Baker: was no other path for me.
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Chris Baker: So I think my parents and my older sister,
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Chris Baker: they looked at me and they're like this is
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Chris Baker: it?
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Chris Baker: He's not going to flip the script and go to
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Chris Baker: dental school, it's just not in the cards.
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Chris Baker: So if he's going to do this, then we just
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Chris Baker: really wish him the best.
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Chris Baker: They had no idea how to help me and I moved
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Chris Baker: here with no connections or to LA with no
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Chris Baker: like anything in my wheelhouse that could
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Chris Baker: help me.
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Marc Preston: Where are you from originally, though?
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Chris Baker: New York City.
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Marc Preston: Oh, okay, Well, that's still.
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Marc Preston: You're not coming from Topeka Kansas.
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Chris Baker: No, no, no, it was a long long stage and
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Chris Baker: sort of musical theater type people, which
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Chris Baker: was not my bag, Even though I'm gay, I
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Chris Baker: don't know why.
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Chris Baker: Musical theater just I can appreciate it,
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Chris Baker: but it's not something that you know just
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Chris Baker: works for me, it was always just movies.
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Chris Baker: So the idea that I would start from scratch
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Chris Baker: happened with my first opportunity, which
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Chris Baker: was reading scripts and watching films that
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Chris Baker: didn't have distribution yet, as an intern
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Chris Baker: for the Weinstein Company, which was quite
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Chris Baker: an eye-opening experience.
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Marc Preston: Oh, I'm sure, at many, many levels yeah.
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Chris Baker: Yeah, and I did retail for years and in
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Chris Baker: that in of itself was sort of a performance
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Chris Baker: for a first person.
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Marc Preston: That's my 16-year-old daughter.
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Marc Preston: Whenever I go to eat, she's seems enamored
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Marc Preston: by working at a restaurant.
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Marc Preston: I'm like you know, do what you want.
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Marc Preston: I think everyone should work in the service
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Marc Preston: industry or retail, at least once you know
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Marc Preston: 100%.
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Marc Preston: What do you think about the transition to
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Marc Preston: people watching more at home?
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Marc Preston: Naturally over the last couple of years
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Marc Preston: that's.
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Marc Preston: I mean, that's got to be where it's at, but
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Marc Preston: used to be.
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Marc Preston: If you were a TV actor.
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Marc Preston: You're a TV actor.
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Marc Preston: You're not crossing over in the film.
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Marc Preston: Back in the area you're talking about,
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Marc Preston: you'd rarely see that happen.
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Marc Preston: Now nobody cares.
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Marc Preston: You're going film TV and the blur is the
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Marc Preston: lines of what TV is anymore.
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Marc Preston: What do you think about that kind of change
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Marc Preston: and things being consumable at home without
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Marc Preston: having to go to the theater?
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Marc Preston: Or do you miss the big releases on a big
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Marc Preston: screen?
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Chris Baker: It's a complicated question.
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Chris Baker: I'm afraid it has a complicated answer.
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Chris Baker: I think change like this for this industry
744
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Chris Baker: is neither good nor bad.
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Chris Baker: It just is.
746
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Chris Baker: The most important thing is that people are
747
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Chris Baker: watching.
748
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Chris Baker: I do think that movies suffered and because
749
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Chris Baker: people, in my opinion, were burned over and
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Chris Baker: over and over and over again, paying single
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Chris Baker: tickets to watch a film, either in the
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Chris Baker: theater or on demand.
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Marc Preston: It's kind of a sell-out.
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Marc Preston: It's kind of good You're buying CDs back in
755
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Marc Preston: the day, spending $25 on a CD.
756
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Marc Preston: Only one song is good.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, that feeling.
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Chris Baker: Yeah absolutely.
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Chris Baker: In my opinion, it wasn't just the ease and
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Chris Baker: the streaming giants, the tech giants
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Chris Baker: trying to squeeze out the theatrical
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Chris Baker: experience.
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Chris Baker: I also think that the public soured on the
764
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Chris Baker: movies because the movies were not as
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Chris Baker: entertaining as they were before, and the
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Chris Baker: movies that are really there with the huge
767
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Chris Baker: budgets, that are there to entertain solely,
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Chris Baker: are the ones that are doing the best now.
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Marc Preston: Would you say it's more of the safe choices
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Marc Preston: they're taking the safe way out.
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Chris Baker: Yes, and the family films where it's a
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Chris Baker: whole outing for the whole family, that
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Chris Baker: makes a lot of sense, the four quadrant
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Chris Baker: ones.
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Chris Baker: But the movies that had smaller audiences,
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Chris Baker: even before COVID, were finding their
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Chris Baker: audiences when they arrived on a streamer,
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Chris Baker: not when they were released day in date on
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Chris Baker: demand in theaters or once they won awards.
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Chris Baker: It was always when they were on a streamer
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Chris Baker: people were scrolling through.
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Marc Preston: So you think kind of the COVID maybe
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Marc Preston: changed, kind of accelerated something that
784
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Marc Preston: was already in play, do you think?
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Chris Baker: people were moving that direction anyway.
786
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Chris Baker: Yes, there's no doubt, and I also think
787
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Chris Baker: that if you're going to have everything
788
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Chris Baker: available for everyone forever, there is a
789
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Chris Baker: lot of older stuff that many people haven't
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Chris Baker: seen.
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Chris Baker: Still that can be better than what's
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Chris Baker: currently available now.
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Chris Baker: So when you're at a theater, you see the
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Chris Baker: marquee and they're like five names, and so
795
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Chris Baker: more or less in that area where the theater
796
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Chris Baker: is serving, the public is sort of choosing
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Chris Baker: between those five movies.
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Chris Baker: When you're on your couch, you have a
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Chris Baker: hundred different apps with thousands of
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Chris Baker: movies and thousands of TV shows to choose
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Chris Baker: from, not to mention your phone, which has
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Chris Baker: multiple social media networks and constant
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Chris Baker: video content as well.
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Chris Baker: So if someone is actually getting your
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Chris Baker: attention enough for you to click on the
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Chris Baker: thing and then you're actually watching it
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Chris Baker: long enough, all the way through in one
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Chris Baker: sitting, I mean that's a miracle in and of
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Chris Baker: itself.
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Chris Baker: It really is.
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Chris Baker: So I prefer still to this day if a movie is
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Chris Baker: worth my time.
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Chris Baker: Although it's always a gamble, let's be
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Chris Baker: honest.
815
Streaming's Impact on Movie Viewing
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Chris Baker: If you're going to take a chance on a film,
816
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Chris Baker: I would rather have the phone away, I would
817
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Chris Baker: rather have the popcorn, and I'd either go
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Chris Baker: alone or with some friends or with my
819
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Chris Baker: family or something, and sit and watch it
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Chris Baker: and be enveloped by the screen and kind of
821
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Chris Baker: have it wash over you and sort of be
822
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Chris Baker: transported.
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Marc Preston: It's a strangely communal kind of a thing.
824
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Marc Preston: I just it's seeing movies in a theater and
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Marc Preston: I think it's Spielberg said something that
826
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Marc Preston: we're entering an era where the only movies
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Marc Preston: that will show up in theaters are going to
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Marc Preston: be the big blockbusters, are going to be
829
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Marc Preston: hanging out in theaters for a long time.
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Marc Preston: Now it's like something's in the theater.
831
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Marc Preston: I'm like I got to see that.
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Marc Preston: Oh, it's already out of the theater.
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Marc Preston: But I think streaming for me it's.
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Marc Preston: I like being able to find those gyms, it's
835
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Marc Preston: like things that I never would have found
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Marc Preston: otherwise and I think it's almost gets into
837
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Marc Preston: not a niche necessarily, but things that
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Marc Preston: are like I know I can watch this and I'll
839
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Marc Preston: really like it, and probably my kids may or
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Marc Preston: may not, or it's a little bit more of a
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Marc Preston: personal kind of a relationship because you
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Marc Preston: can access, like you said, thousands of
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Marc Preston: movies.
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Marc Preston: So if you can't find something you like,
845
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Marc Preston: maybe go make it.
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Marc Preston: But that's kind of the thing also, that you
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Marc Preston: think that what you did, which I mean again
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Marc Preston: congratulations, because getting writing
849
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Marc Preston: something, getting it, getting all those
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Marc Preston: little pieces to fall into place, to get
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Marc Preston: something bought, to get something out
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Marc Preston: there is.
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Marc Preston: It's not an easy task, but you represent.
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Marc Preston: To me, it represents what?
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Marc Preston: I hope more people will glean from it.
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Marc Preston: If something's not out there, you don't
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Marc Preston: think you're getting cast or you know,
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Marc Preston: whatever God there creates something on
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Marc Preston: your own, and that's that.
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Marc Preston: That's easier said than done, I know, as
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Marc Preston: I'm sure you know better than anybody, but
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Marc Preston: do you?
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Marc Preston: By the way, I'm sorry, my we have a little
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Marc Preston: audience member back here, my golden
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Marc Preston: retriever.
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Marc Preston: Oh, he's a sweetheart, yeah, but what do
867
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Marc Preston: you think about the idea of for those who
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Marc Preston: are kind of in that cycle?
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Marc Preston: You know, I've acted on camera a number of
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Marc Preston: times and I was talking with somebody the
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Marc Preston: other day.
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Marc Preston: I said I would love to do stuff on camera.
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Marc Preston: I'm just so busy doing what I'm doing I
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Marc Preston: don't have a chance to come block off three
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Marc Preston: hours that I'm a day to get to the casting
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Marc Preston: director's office, do the thing, come back,
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Marc Preston: or.
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Marc Preston: You know, he's a man and this is a pretty
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Marc Preston: successful actor.
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Marc Preston: He said, dude, everything's, everything's
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Marc Preston: being recorded, everything's being self
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Marc Preston: taped at home.
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Marc Preston: Now I was like another COVID thing that
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Marc Preston: maybe worked to the advantage of our
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Marc Preston: industry.
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Marc Preston: But for people that want to kind of get out
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Marc Preston: of that cycle of just auditioning, just
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Marc Preston: asking for gigs, what would your advice be?
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Marc Preston: As far as creating, you know, as far as
890
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Marc Preston: somebody's got an idea, how would you
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Marc Preston: suggest they approach that if they want to
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Marc Preston: make something of their own?
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Chris Baker: I would say one you have to find people
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Chris Baker: that are going to be honest with you and
895
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Chris Baker: you have to have a really thick skin for
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Chris Baker: when you perform for the first time and
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Chris Baker: send that to someone, or if you write
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Chris Baker: something for the first time or direct
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Chris Baker: something for the first time and send it
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Chris Baker: off to someone or have a, you know, exhibit
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Chris Baker: it to people.
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Chris Baker: You have to be willing to know that this is
903
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Chris Baker: a journey and you're going to get better.
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Chris Baker: My first script was not good at all and
905
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Chris Baker: even after multiple drafts it was still
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Chris Baker: kind of middling to understand the
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Chris Baker: structure and how I wanted an audience to
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Chris Baker: feel when I was writing the estate.
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Chris Baker: That took a few years and to you know, pull
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Chris Baker: the rug out from under an audience for that
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Chris Baker: twist ending.
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Chris Baker: That kind of flips the script and sort of
913
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Chris Baker: informs and answers every question that
914
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Chris Baker: people may have had while they were
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Chris Baker: watching the film the whole time.
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Chris Baker: That takes a long time to kind of develop.
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Chris Baker: And I think that sometimes people have a
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Chris Baker: story about their childhood or about their
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Chris Baker: life experience that when they write it it
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Chris Baker: just sort of comes out fully formed.
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Chris Baker: And then other times people when if they're
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Chris Baker: thinking about science fiction or something
923
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Chris Baker: more fantastical, that those that world
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Chris Baker: building and stuff all of that takes time.
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Chris Baker: So I think patience is really important too.
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Chris Baker: And the other thing is, in independent film,
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Chris Baker: the number one thing I can say from all the
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Chris Baker: talks that I had with producers for the
929
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Chris Baker: film over the years and you know how many
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Chris Baker: calls need to be made or whatever is Make
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Chris Baker: sure you have access to money.
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Marc Preston: Easier said than done.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, that's well, I mean, of course,
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Marc Preston: the other thing I think I've noticed is
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Marc Preston: just, I was right.
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Marc Preston: I remember reading the book.
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Marc Preston: Actually, listen to the audiobook of save
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Marc Preston: the cat.
939
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Marc Preston: Yeah, you have.
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Marc Preston: You read the book on screen, right?
941
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Marc Preston: And this idea that you gotta get rid of if
942
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Marc Preston: not, find it.
943
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Marc Preston: So just don't marry yourself so much to an
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Marc Preston: idea.
945
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Marc Preston: If it doesn't work, be okay, throwing it
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Marc Preston: away, starting over.
947
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Marc Preston: You know, I remember a story the writer was
948
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Marc Preston: talking about that.
949
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Marc Preston: Some people come to him for advice and him
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Marc Preston: break down the script.
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Marc Preston: Here's all the things that work, here's
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Marc Preston: things don't work, and it's gonna involve
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Marc Preston: basically tearing that whole script up and
954
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Marc Preston: Starting for and how many people are not
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Marc Preston: willing to do that.
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Marc Preston: You got to be willing to do that, you know
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Marc Preston: if you believe right, but this is the first
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Marc Preston: time you've done something as far as the
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Marc Preston: creative input and of this scale.
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Marc Preston: What is?
961
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Marc Preston: What are a couple of biggest lessons?
962
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Marc Preston: You learn Epiphanies like you thought it
963
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Marc Preston: was gonna be like this, and then you're
964
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Marc Preston: like, oh well, it didn't quite go that way.
965
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Marc Preston: Maybe it's a happy accent.
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Marc Preston: What did you learn in this process?
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Chris Baker: the best lesson that I learned throughout
968
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Chris Baker: the process, even though I was the sole
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Chris Baker: screenwriter and the you know I was the
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Chris Baker: main character in the film, is that Film
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Chris Baker: itself is the most collaborative art form
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Chris Baker: that exists.
973
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Chris Baker: The number of people and the number of
974
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Chris Baker: different points of view, from the gaffer
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Chris Baker: to the prop master, to all the different
976
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Chris Baker: one-line parts that we had in the film, to
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Chris Baker: the weather that day, you know which, I
978
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Chris Baker: guess, is if you believe in God is just you
979
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Chris Baker: know, all were a part of making a movie,
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Chris Baker: the movie that it ends up being, and no
981
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Chris Baker: matter how good Intentioned or how
982
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Chris Baker: important one person's voice or one
983
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Chris Baker: person's point of view is, it has to be a
984
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Chris Baker: collaboration and I think everyone has to
985
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Chris Baker: have the same goal.
986
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Chris Baker: So everyone on set and in the editing room
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Chris Baker: and and Everyone that worked on this film
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Chris Baker: and worked really hard for not a lot of
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Chris Baker: money Everyone had the goal of entertaining
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Chris Baker: an audience and creating this neon, soaked,
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Chris Baker: naughty kind of truly you know Fairy tale
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Chris Baker: nightmare.
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Marc Preston: I love that neon soaked thing, that's so.
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Marc Preston: It's like if I can encapsulate the 80s for
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Marc Preston: my kids.
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Marc Preston: It's so funny they, you know, you know that
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Marc Preston: whole, I Don't know, but neon soaked, I
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Marc Preston: gotta remember that one.
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Marc Preston: But yeah, you know, like we're watching
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Marc Preston: stranger things, the music, the vibe it was,
Speaker:1001
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Marc Preston: is a lot more like you said movies,
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Marc Preston: comedians, things like that.
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Marc Preston: That could happen.
Speaker:1004
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Marc Preston: Then, ironically, you couldn't bring a lot
Speaker:1005
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Marc Preston: of that back now.
Speaker:1006
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Marc Preston: That's why this is, this is kind of a, this
Speaker:1007
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Marc Preston: is a fun ride.
Speaker:1008
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Marc Preston: That's why I think this does bring forward
Speaker:1009
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Marc Preston: that kind of thing that we don't see too
Speaker:1010
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Marc Preston: much anymore.
Speaker:1011
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Marc Preston: Hopefully we'll see it more.
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Resurgence of Adult-Oriented Movies
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Marc Preston: I mean, I'd like to see kind of resurgence
Speaker:1013
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Marc Preston: of movies that are quite frankly made for
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Marc Preston: adults, you know yes, absolutely.
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Chris Baker: I think that they're.
Speaker:1016
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Chris Baker: I I choose to believe that there's a real
Speaker:1017
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Chris Baker: hunger for it.
Speaker:1018
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Chris Baker: There are a lot of TV shows that are, you
Speaker:1019
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Chris Baker: know, a longer form Movie, honestly, but
Speaker:1020
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Chris Baker: it's like a 10 hour movie and a lot of
Speaker:1021
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Chris Baker: people don't have that much time.
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Chris Baker: Or, you know, when you're making a 10 hour
Speaker:1023
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Chris Baker: film, that's that's a 10-part mini series
Speaker:1024
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Chris Baker: instead of a 90 minute feature.
Speaker:1025
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Chris Baker: Sometimes to fill all of that time you have
Speaker:1026
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Chris Baker: to add in back store Side characters and
Speaker:1027
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Chris Baker: they're sort of storylines that sometimes
Speaker:1028
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Chris Baker: don't work as well as the main storyline.
Speaker:1029
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Chris Baker: And you know, building out a world doesn't
Speaker:1030
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Chris Baker: necessarily have to be maximalist, to to to
Speaker:1031
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Chris Baker: in terms of time and volume.
Speaker:1032
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Chris Baker: Sometimes it is about really zeroing in and
Speaker:1033
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Chris Baker: Making something that is a sub two-hour
Speaker:1034
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Chris Baker: experience for people that they can really
Speaker:1035
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Chris Baker: enjoy and get in and get out.
Speaker:1036
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Marc Preston: Was this something you would do?
Speaker:1037
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Marc Preston: You're wanting to do again writing a movie,
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Marc Preston: acting it, or you know it's a lot of work.
Speaker:1039
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Marc Preston: You know, are you kind of more wanting to
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Marc Preston: go through just being in someone else's
Speaker:1041
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Marc Preston: project?
Speaker:1042
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Marc Preston: If you had a Good situation like I, want my
Speaker:1043
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Marc Preston: next project to be this, this Kind of
Speaker:1044
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Marc Preston: project, this kind of thing, this kind of
Speaker:1045
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Marc Preston: director, you know, or co-stars, what, what?
Speaker:1046
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Marc Preston: How would you envision that?
Speaker:1047
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Chris Baker: Well, my next script is already finished.
Speaker:1048
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Chris Baker: I actually wrote it with a Another writer
Speaker:1049
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Chris Baker: who's so incredibly hilarious.
Speaker:1050
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Chris Baker: His name is Jared Groty and it is a wedding
Speaker:1051
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Chris Baker: themed rom-com and it is.
Speaker:1052
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Chris Baker: You know, it's definitely not as dark as as
Speaker:1053
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Chris Baker: the estate, but it has there.
Speaker:1054
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Chris Baker: It has a more, I think, more commercial
Speaker:1055
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Chris Baker: appeal, but also still very much for adults,
Speaker:1056
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Chris Baker: and it has elements of all of my favorite
Speaker:1057
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Chris Baker: romantic comedies growing up and also
Speaker:1058
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Chris Baker: movies like American Pie and the birdcage
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Chris Baker: and just these films that just, also, like
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Chris Baker: many others, really influenced me, and so
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Chris Baker: it was kind of put it in the blender and
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Chris Baker: that's what this romantic comedy is, and
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Chris Baker: it's in development right now.
Speaker:1064
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Chris Baker: I'm sure you know pretty well that in
Speaker:1065
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Chris Baker: development it can mean a whole range of
Speaker:1066
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Chris Baker: things, so we're so we can change it,
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Chris Baker: moments notice, yeah absolutely so I'm.
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Chris Baker: I'm of the headspace, that I Would love to
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Chris Baker: see that project get made next.
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Chris Baker: I have other projects as well that I'm
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Chris Baker: working on, but that is the thing that's
Speaker:1072
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Chris Baker: furthest along and that I'm so so proud of,
Speaker:1073
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Chris Baker: and I and I just as far as like a director,
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Chris Baker: who would you love to work with?
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Marc Preston: who would you love to direct you based on
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Marc Preston: the movies you've seen?
Speaker:1077
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Marc Preston: And if you'd, I you know A script came in
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Marc Preston: and said, hey, so, and so is attached as
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Marc Preston: the director.
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Chris Baker: David Fincher.
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Chris Baker: Oh, really oh look at you go yeah, that's
Speaker:1082
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Chris Baker: so you're, you're good.
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Marc Preston: That is very much down the middle of what
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Marc Preston: we're talking about here.
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Chris Baker: Yeah, my number one of all time.
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Chris Baker: Yeah, I love, of course, daisy.
Speaker:1087
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Chris Baker: Obviously as well.
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Chris Baker: I love I, you know, I love PTA, I love
Speaker:1089
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Chris Baker: Tarantino, I love.
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Marc Preston: I was gonna ask you about Quentin Tarantino,
Speaker:1091
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Marc Preston: because something about like his
Speaker:1092
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Marc Preston: sensibility and what he does seems like it
Speaker:1093
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Marc Preston: would resonate with you.
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Chris Baker: Absolutely.
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Chris Baker: And you know there are people like Adrian
Speaker:1096
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Chris Baker: Lyne and Brian De Palma who you know, I
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Chris Baker: know that Decades ago had such a you know
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Chris Baker: with where they're Paul Verhoeven, you know.
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Chris Baker: But I think there's something about David
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Chris Baker: Fincher that the first film of his that I
Speaker:1101
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Chris Baker: saw, I think, was the game.
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Chris Baker: And then I was desperate, desperate, to see
Speaker:1103
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Chris Baker: Fight Club when it was in theaters, but I
Speaker:1104
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Chris Baker: was way too young and my parents just
Speaker:1105
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Chris Baker: plainly refused.
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Marc Preston: But I went to Sam you talk about the game,
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Marc Preston: the Michael Douglas movie with the game.
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Chris Baker: Douglas and Sean Penn.
Speaker:1109
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Marc Preston: Oh, that was great.
Speaker:1110
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Chris Baker: And just a really, really great cast and
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Chris Baker: there's no one, that I think there's no
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Chris Baker: American filmmaker.
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Chris Baker: That I think it encapsulates what film is
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Chris Baker: and what, what a person can be truthful to
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Chris Baker: about themselves and with the world and how
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Chris Baker: they reckon with the modern world.
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Chris Baker: I think that His films a gone girl is was
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Chris Baker: hugely influential on me when I was, when I
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Chris Baker: was making, you know, the estates and how I
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Chris Baker: thought about how terrible characters can
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Chris Baker: treat each other and how they can
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Chris Baker: manipulate each other and the plans that
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Chris Baker: they can have to sort of thwart people.
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Chris Baker: But a lot of it is out of love they're, you
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Chris Baker: know, seven is just, you know, just a
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Chris Baker: perfectly encapsulated, tight film.
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Chris Baker: You know I fight club literally taught, all
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Chris Baker: you know, an entire generation of
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Chris Baker: Millennial men how to Go from being boys to
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Chris Baker: men, and I'm seeing Brad Pitt show up a
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Chris Baker: couple times in the movies You're
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Chris Baker: mentioning here yeah, yes, you know it's.
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Marc Preston: You know it's nice to see somebody at his
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Marc Preston: level that's got the goods.
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Marc Preston: You know it's not just, you know, mr.
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Marc Preston: You know, handsome Hollywood star.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, he's got the stuff.
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Chris Baker: You know, he brings it everything when I,
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Chris Baker: when I read things about him, you know, I
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Chris Baker: think at Astro up before, once upon a time
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Chris Baker: in Hollywood.
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Chris Baker: At Astro was the last movie, I think, that
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Chris Baker: he produced that was released in theaters.
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Chris Baker: He just Really, really, really loves movies
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Chris Baker: and he respects the art form.
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Chris Baker: And you know, de Niro is the same, and that
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Chris Baker: those people, they're very few of those
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Chris Baker: people.
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Chris Baker: I think Russell Crowe is one of them, I
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Chris Baker: think Harrison Ford was one of them for
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Chris Baker: like 50 years.
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Chris Baker: You know, just just hitting it out of the
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Chris Baker: park over and over and over again, the
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Chris Baker: fugitive is one of my favorite films of all
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Chris Baker: time.
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Chris Baker: And you know I could go on and on and on
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Chris Baker: about Harrison Ford.
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Chris Baker: My dog is named Dr Richard Kimball, soi
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Chris Baker: Think that there are, you know, there are
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Chris Baker: these, there, just these people that I
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Chris Baker: would, you know I would die to work with.
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Marc Preston: But in terms of directors, david Fincher is,
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Marc Preston: is the number one, top, top, top, top, top
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Marc Preston: top but if you look at the tone of the
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Marc Preston: movie of Of the estate let's say you were
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Marc Preston: to craft another movie similar tone like
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Marc Preston: these these movies were talking about.
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Marc Preston: Yeah who would be kind of kind of a short,
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Marc Preston: very, very, very short list of actors that
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Marc Preston: you think would be great and fun to Kind of
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Marc Preston: play with for you know a few months making
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Marc Preston: a film like that.
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Chris Baker: Oh, my gosh dream scenario.
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Chris Baker: I, I love and halfway I think that she's a
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Chris Baker: genius and I'm just obsessed with her.
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Chris Baker: I Really really love starleys.
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Chris Baker: I think that on and I think that everything
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Chris Baker: she does is so interesting.
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Chris Baker: I I've probably seen young adults she's a
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Chris Baker: great comedic actress also Movie, should it
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Chris Baker: with Seth?
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Marc Preston: Rogen, where she played a oh right policy.
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Chris Baker: She just, it's just, her timing is just on
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Chris Baker: point, you know yeah, and, and you know Mad
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Chris Baker: Max and when she was in Prometheus, I mean
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Chris Baker: these roles where her looks inform her
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Chris Baker: characters in just I don't know if she's
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Chris Baker: just really really good at picking roles
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Chris Baker: for herself, but she just understands her
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Chris Baker: arsenal of you know Tricks and and whatever
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Chris Baker: so well I'm, I'm just continually impressed
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Chris Baker: by her and I would Really really love to
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Chris Baker: work with.
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Chris Baker: I love Mindy Kaling.
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Chris Baker: I like her new show a lot.
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Chris Baker: There.
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Chris Baker: There's a lot of people out there I mean I
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Chris Baker: named all women but obviously Brad Pitt is
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Chris Baker: just the number one of all time, because I
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Chris Baker: think you know to feel like I just learned
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Chris Baker: a lot from him.
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Chris Baker: I think that he's just he's lived a very
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Chris Baker: interesting life but he's also made a lot
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Chris Baker: of great movies.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, he never phones it in without a doubt,
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Marc Preston: and we can probably.
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Marc Preston: You cannot be a David.
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Chris Baker: Fincher fan, without being a Brad Pitt fan
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Chris Baker: as well.
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Chris Baker: Well, yeah, as we wrap up, I'm just kind of
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Chris Baker: curious, what are you watching right now,
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Chris Baker: like TV wise?
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Marc Preston: What are you consuming on a that you're
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Marc Preston: just like that's your entertainment?
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Marc Preston: Well, in terms, of Scripted.
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Chris Baker: I saw there's a film called the Card
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Chris Baker: Counter with Oscar Isaac that I really
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Chris Baker: enjoyed.
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Chris Baker: I thought it was a very strange and
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Chris Baker: beautiful and kind of stoic meditation on,
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Chris Baker: like the state of the modern man you know.
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Chris Baker: I thought it was fantastic.
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Chris Baker: And I saw the lost daughter with Olivia
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Chris Baker: Coleman.
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Chris Baker: That was.
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Chris Baker: It was really, really good.
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Chris Baker: I love, loved Yellow jackets, which I'm
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Chris Baker: almost done with that.
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Chris Baker: That showtime, oh, I've been meaning to
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Chris Baker: catch that I've been.
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Chris Baker: I just kept being Recommended it and I was
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Chris Baker: finally like you know what, I'm just gonna
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Chris Baker: start it and my husband and I just can't,
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Chris Baker: can't, stop devouring it.
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Chris Baker: Ozark is one of our favorite shows and
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Chris Baker: we're very happy that that's back on.
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Chris Baker: But the thing, unfortunately, that I watch
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Chris Baker: the most or maybe not unfortunately anymore,
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Chris Baker: but are the housewives.
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Chris Baker: Vanderpump rules, summer house below deck
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Chris Baker: every iteration of below deck, I am, you
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Chris Baker: know, the bottom line is you need that
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Chris Baker: departure.
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Marc Preston: I mean there it's a lot of stuff I don't
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Marc Preston: watch but it's.
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Marc Preston: But I have my own escapism and that's
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Marc Preston: something that we and I think that's been
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Marc Preston: very clarified At least in this country, in
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Marc Preston: the US, over the last handful of years of
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Marc Preston: we've needed that escapism, you know.
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Chris Baker: I turn off the news.
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Chris Baker: You know I'm watching a scripted show
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Chris Baker: unless it's really really, really really
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Chris Baker: good, like Ozark or Yellow Jackets, or you
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Chris Baker: know I love Mara Vistown.
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Chris Baker: That was fabulous.
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Chris Baker: The it as a writer watching most scripted
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Chris Baker: stuff in.
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Chris Baker: I'm usually watching the gears shift as
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Chris Baker: this as each scene plays out, and if it's
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Chris Baker: not very good it kind of I can't get into
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Chris Baker: it, I'm just watching the machinations.
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Chris Baker: So the thing about reality television is
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Chris Baker: that, even though it is sort of just as
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Chris Baker: scripted as many other things, there's just
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Chris Baker: a Strangeness about the human condition
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Chris Baker: that is truly revealed by by these people
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Chris Baker: that decide to open up their homes and
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Chris Baker: lives to All of the world.
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Chris Baker: And and it does feel when I'm watching
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Chris Baker: those shows like Brain Cleaner.
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Chris Baker: But I really don't have to think a lot and
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Chris Baker: I can, I could just kind of check out and,
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Chris Baker: yeah, just just just read into the human
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Chris Baker: experience and a you know there was a show.
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Marc Preston: You're probably gonna know what I'm talking
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Marc Preston: about.
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Marc Preston: There was a show may have been, I Don't
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Marc Preston: know when I caught it it was.
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Marc Preston: It was a scripted show about making
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Marc Preston: something like the Bachelorette.
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Marc Preston: It was a drama Unreal.
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Marc Preston: I gotta be honest with that.
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Marc Preston: That pulled me on.
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Marc Preston: That was it.
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Marc Preston: I was kind of when you really, because when
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Marc Preston: you've worked on sets and you just even the
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Marc Preston: PAs with their Walking around with a
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Marc Preston: walkie-talkie, you get a sense of like
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Marc Preston: twists and turns.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, oh yeah, indeed, so it's.
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Marc Preston: It's like you start realizing that a lot of
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Marc Preston: these shows they went from calling reality.
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Marc Preston: Now they're called, whether they call them
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Marc Preston: unscripted shows, you know.
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Marc Preston: There is still, there is still theater to
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Marc Preston: them, but it's just a different kind of
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Marc Preston: theater, you know.
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Marc Preston: But what I'm gonna go as we wrap up, here
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Marc Preston: and again, thank you for being generous
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Marc Preston: with your time.
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Marc Preston: I certainly appreciate it.
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Seven Questions
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Marc Preston: But I got something I call it Preston's
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Marc Preston: Lucky Seven.
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Marc Preston: I like to ask seven questions.
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Marc Preston: I like to ask questions.
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Marc Preston: I used to do this when I had a syndicator
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Marc Preston: radio show many moons ago on ABC.
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Marc Preston: But what is your favorite comfort food?
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Chris Baker: Anything chocolate.
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Marc Preston: You know, my oldest daughter get along very,
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Marc Preston: very well.
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Marc Preston: If there's nothing in the house, chocolate
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Marc Preston: there's.
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Marc Preston: There's a collective sigh like oh no.
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Marc Preston: Now, who are three people.
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Marc Preston: If you could sit down for a cup of coffee,
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Marc Preston: it could be a lot.
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Marc Preston: It could be living or dead.
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Marc Preston: Who would you want to sit down with?
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Marc Preston: And at that table of four people you and
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Marc Preston: three others who would you like to sit down
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Marc Preston: with and chat?
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Chris Baker: You know Barry, barack Obama, david Sideris
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Chris Baker: and Michelle Pfeiffer.
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Marc Preston: That's an interesting table, you know.
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Marc Preston: I'd be more fun actually.
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Marc Preston: Instead coffee, have some beers, you know
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Marc Preston: kind of cut lies, something.
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Marc Preston: Something tells me you know the president
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Marc Preston: would be down with that.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, now who is your celebrity crush when
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Marc Preston: you were a kid?
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Chris Baker: Oh, Well, you know and and and and there
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Chris Baker: was a guy on the OC that I think his no, I
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Chris Baker: know his name is Chris Carmack.
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Chris Baker: I don't know.
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Chris Baker: I think he's on Grey's Anatomy now, but I
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Chris Baker: don't watch Grey's Anatomy.
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Chris Baker: I was in love with him and I mean I love
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Chris Baker: that show, I just ate that show up, but I I
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Chris Baker: couldn't believe someone like that
Speaker:1343
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Chris Baker: physically could exist and he played a very
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Chris Baker: stupid character and I always found that
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Chris Baker: very attractive.
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Chris Baker: Yeah, that's.
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Marc Preston: It's funny.
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Marc Preston: You mentioned Grey's Anatomy, the.
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Marc Preston: I remember sitting down with Patrick
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Marc Preston: Dempsey for a movie God it was called, was
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Marc Preston: it with honors?
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Marc Preston: It was years ago With the.
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Marc Preston: Brendan Fraser was in it and so I sat down
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Marc Preston: with him.
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Marc Preston: I'm sitting, look at this guy going.
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Marc Preston: This guy is on the process, man, he's this
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Marc Preston: guy, he's, he's this nicest guy.
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Marc Preston: He's got this cool about him.
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Marc Preston: And here is dr McDreamy years later, you
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Marc Preston: know so.
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Marc Preston: Now, if you were to find next question,
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Marc Preston: what would be Perfect day for you?
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Marc Preston: Get up, day starts great from stem to stern.
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Marc Preston: What would be a perfect day for you?
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Marc Preston: What would be the component parts of that?
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Chris Baker: Every day is waking up real like right
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Chris Baker: after sunrise, walking my dog, then doing a
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Chris Baker: workout of some kind and kind of getting
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Chris Baker: all those Although all that stress and
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Chris Baker: whatever I drank the night before out of my
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Chris Baker: system and sweating that out and then
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Chris Baker: Writing some really really, really great,
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Chris Baker: great Scenes with great crackling dialogue
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Chris Baker: that there's just no better jug than that,
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Chris Baker: and then going out for pasta with my
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Chris Baker: husband.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's gotta get those carbs and nuts.
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Marc Preston: That's, that's, that's.
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Marc Preston: Hey, man, am I?
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Marc Preston: I'm getting a little older man, I got to
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Marc Preston: keep an eye out for that, but I'll do it
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Marc Preston: still.
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Marc Preston: Hey, you know I don't mind a couple pounds,
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Marc Preston: sure, why not Now, if you were gonna be On
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Marc Preston: an island and you're bringing one album,
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Marc Preston: you're bringing one movie, what are you
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Marc Preston: taking with you?
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Marc Preston: Well you know you're gonna be there for a
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Marc Preston: while.
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Marc Preston: You're gonna be there for a few months and
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Marc Preston: that's the only thing you can listen to,
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Marc Preston: only thing you can watch, and you're not
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Marc Preston: gonna get tired of it.
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Chris Baker: So the album this is kind of a cheap, but
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Chris Baker: the oh no, yeah, I'm gonna say the album
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Chris Baker: that I would take is Madonna's immaculate
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Chris Baker: collection, because I'm gay and that's what
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Chris Baker: I've, that's just, that's what I have, no
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Chris Baker: other choice.
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Marc Preston: It's a pretty diverse album.
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Marc Preston: There's a lot going on.
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Chris Baker: Yeah, a lot going on.
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Chris Baker: And then the one movie I would take, uh, is
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Chris Baker: probably my best friend's wedding.
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Chris Baker: And then what was the other thing?
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Marc Preston: Just the album and the movie and the movie,
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Marc Preston: that's it.
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Marc Preston: You know, keep yourself entertained.
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Marc Preston: Now, last couple questions.
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Marc Preston: You got a DeLorean, your cruise of back 16
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Marc Preston: year old Chris.
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Marc Preston: What are you going to tell him?
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Marc Preston: If you have, if you've got, you know, an
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Marc Preston: hour to sit down with younger you, where do
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Marc Preston: you got to tell him?
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Chris Baker: Oh, Words of advice start sooner.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, that's great advice for anybody kind
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Marc Preston: of kind of together with that is the idea
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Marc Preston: that you know.
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Marc Preston: Start now at least get going, do it.
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Chris Baker: Don't be afraid, don't.
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Chris Baker: Don't listen to, to what people don't you
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Chris Baker: know.
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Chris Baker: I think things worked out the way they were
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Chris Baker: supposed to.
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Chris Baker: But yeah, I would tell my 16 year old self
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Chris Baker: to start now.
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Chris Baker: Yeah, very nice.
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Marc Preston: And then the last question Now we catch up
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Marc Preston: with years from now and if they, they get
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Marc Preston: the documentary of your life coming out,
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Marc Preston: because you're fabulously Famous, wealthy,
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Marc Preston: hopefully, and you remember, remember a
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Marc Preston: small people down the line, of course, but
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Marc Preston: who would you, who would you like to have
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Marc Preston: narrate the documentary of your life?
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Chris Baker: Oh, I have to because I really love both of
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Chris Baker: their voices, for different reasons.
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Chris Baker: So whoever made it to the voiceover booth
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Chris Baker: and that was still around, because they're
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Chris Baker: both older than me, giovanni Robisi and
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Chris Baker: Delroy lendo I I'm obsessed with nice
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Chris Baker: choices Very good, yeah, actually I think.
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Marc Preston: Giovanni Robisi, he's he's narrated a
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Marc Preston: couple things I've heard before.
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Marc Preston: I narrated the version suicides, which is a
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Marc Preston: very I knew there was something he did,
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Marc Preston: yeah, yep, and you know, actually, one of
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Marc Preston: my favorite characters he ever did.
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Marc Preston: It's one of my favorite movies, sophia
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Marc Preston: Copeland, drawn a blank here in Japan.
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Marc Preston: Oh, lots of translation, lots of
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Marc Preston: translations my favorite movies ever, Uh.
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Marc Preston: I love.
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Marc Preston: His character was just like he wasn't in a
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Marc Preston: big part of the movie.
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Marc Preston: But it's just something.
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Marc Preston: Anything he's in, I'm gonna watch yeah but
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Marc Preston: hey my friend.
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Marc Preston: Thank you, I want to thank you for taking
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Marc Preston: the time to just sit down and chat a little
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Marc Preston: talking story Again, the movie the estate
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Marc Preston: on hulu, I gotta you gotta catch it's fun.
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Marc Preston: I recommend a nice bottle of wine, maybe
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Marc Preston: some, you know, maybe some carbs, sure you
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Marc Preston: know, just make an evening of it certainly.
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Marc Preston: But I want to thank you as really kind of
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Marc Preston: you to take some time with me on a Friday
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Marc Preston: nonetheless.
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Marc Preston: But I I wish you nothing but health,
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Marc Preston: happiness, prosperity.
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Marc Preston: I know great things are coming from you and
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Marc Preston: uh, and hopefully we'll have a chance to
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Marc Preston: catch up down the line.
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Chris Baker: I appreciate this so much and thank you for
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Chris Baker: your support and thank you for taking the
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Chris Baker: time.
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Chris Baker: I really appreciate it.
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Marc Preston: Well, there you go, chris Baker.
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Marc Preston: What a what a cool chat.
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Marc Preston: Really enjoyed it.
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Marc Preston: Uh, you know the people that are out there
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Marc Preston: in the world creating their thing, getting
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Marc Preston: it out there, it's very inspirational,
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Marc Preston: whether it be writing a book, a song, uh,
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Marc Preston: screenplay, a movie, whatever.
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Marc Preston: If you are a creative type, I don't care
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Marc Preston: what you're doing, keep on doing it.
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Marc Preston: And you know, chris is a prime example.
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Marc Preston: If you do it and you just kind of stick to
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Marc Preston: it, cool things can happen, without a doubt.
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Marc Preston: Once again, the movie is called the estate.
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Marc Preston: It is on hulu, a little something different
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Marc Preston: than you're probably used to seeing.
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Marc Preston: Once again, the estate on hulu.
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Marc Preston: The next few episodes oh man, we got some
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Marc Preston: cool, cool guests coming up.
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Marc Preston: Hey, I'm gonna get on out of here.
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Marc Preston: You have yourself a killer.
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Marc Preston: Rest of the week, be safe.
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Marc Preston: And, uh, we'll check you out next week
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Marc Preston: right here on story and craft.
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