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June 7, 2022

George Stevens, Jr. | A Place in The Sun

George Stevens, Jr. | A Place in The Sun

On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with Hollywood legend, George Stevens, Jr.  He has enjoyed a seventy year career as a writer, producer and director.  He also founded the American Film Institute (AFI) and co-created the Kennedy Center Honors.  He has been friends with and consulted presidents from John F. Kennedy, through President Obama, who appointed him as Co-Chairman of the President's Committee on the Arts and Humanities.  He has received numerous Emmy, Writers Guild and Peabody awards, as well as an Oscar.  He was also awarded an honorary Oscar for his lifelong contributions to the film industry.  He recounts his storied career in his new book, My Place in The Sun.  He is a living legend, and it was a pleasure to sit down with George and talk story.

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

0:09:32 - Hollywood Transition and Filmmaking Legacy

0:24:43 - Cinema's Future and Presidential Filmmaking

0:26:42 - Time, White House Relationships

0:39:06) - Advice for Filmmakers and Actors

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: President Kennedy took an interest in the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: films we were making and I would receive an

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: occasional phone call from him.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: He called me to say I think you ought to

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: enter that film in the Academy Awards.

 

 

 

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

 

 

 

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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.

 

 

 

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Announcer: Well, hello there.

 

 

 

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Announcer: How are?

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: you Good to have you here.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I'm Marc Preston.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Well, gosh, darn it.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Thank you for coming back by, I appreciate

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: it.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I love the fact you're liking the show and

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: checking out my Mischief Today.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: This is a cool episode.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I mean, they're all cool episodes, of

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: course, but this one's special.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I think I'm talking with an actual, bona

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: fide Hollywood legend.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: His name is George Stevens Jr.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: He has spent 70 years working in Hollywood

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: as a writer, a producer, a director.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: He has done all kinds of things that are

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: that in and of themselves would be cool.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I mean, he founded the American Film

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Institute, the AFI.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: He co-created the Kennedy Center Honors.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: He's consulted and been friends with

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: presidents all the way back to John F

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Kennedy, through President Obama, who

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: actually appointed him to be the co-chair

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: of the President's Committee on the Arts

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: and Humanities.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: He's also gotten literally so many awards.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I don't have time to list them all here,

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: but just generally he's won numerous Emmys,

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: writers Guild, peabody Awards, even got an

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Oscar and an honorary Oscar for his

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: lifelong contributions to the film industry.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: This was an absolutely wonderful chat.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I had a great time talking with George.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: He's got a new book, by the way, recounting

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: all of the great things he's done, all the

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: stories he has to tell.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: It is called my Place in the Sun.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: It is in bookstores and on Amazon and all

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: that jazz.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: And thank you so much again for being here.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: It means a lot to me and I've been getting

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: some really nice messages.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Also, if I haven't had a chance to reply to

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: you just yet, thank you, I appreciate it.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Okay, let's get after it.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Today it is Hollywood Legend Day.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: It is George Stevens Junior Day, right here

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: on StoryandCraft.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Where are you?

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: joining me from today, washington DC, in my

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: house in Georgetown.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Now, are you from DC or did you grow up

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: somewhere else?

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I was born in the Hollywood Hospital.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I'm a fifth generation Californian.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: You know I did see something that even your

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: grandparents were in the industry.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Now, was this something that was sort of

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: destiny for you or it was always in the DNA?

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Or did you have other aspirations, other

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: things you wanted to do when you were

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I was a great admirer of Grantl and Rice

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: and Red Smith.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I wanted to be a sports writer and I love

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: baseball and basketball and golf.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And then the year I graduated from high

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: school I didn't have a summer job and my

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: father said you can help me.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And he gave me two assignments.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: One was to break down Theodore Dreiser's An

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: American Tragedy, parts 1 and 2, the great,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the classic novel, and put them in

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: notebooks, all the details, because he was

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: about to start the screenplay of A Place in

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the Sun based on that book.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And the other was to read stuff the scripts

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: and books that came from Paramount that

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: they were proposing for movies, and it was

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: pretty much trickly love stories that were

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: not too appealing to a 17-year-old on hot

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: summer afternoons and one afternoon I

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: picked up this book and read it in the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: afternoon.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I went over to see my father that night and

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: he was reading in bed and I held it up and

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I said, dad, this is a great story, you

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: ought to read it.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And he said why don't you tell me the story?

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And so I found myself pacing around his bed

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: trying to tell him the story of Shane,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: which I had read in Jack Schaeffer's novel

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: that afternoon and I realize now that him

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: offering me these two assignments was a way

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: of letting me find out whether I had an

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: aptitude or an interest in his profession.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And by the next summer I was in Jackson

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Hole Wyoming with the job of company clerk

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: on the location for the shooting of Shane.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: It was my first experience on a movie.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Now, of course, your father, george Stevens

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Sr.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: He wasn't the first person in your family

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: who was in this industry.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I think it went, I believe, all the way

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: back, if I'm not mistaken, to your

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: grandparents, who I believe were actors as

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: well, correct?

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: That family history that I really

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: crystallized in my mind in the writing of

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: this book was my great-grandmother was

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Georgia Woodthorpe, and she was a great

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: actress on the stage in San Francisco and

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the youngest Ophelia to the great Edwin

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Booth's Hamlet, the greatest Shakespearean

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: actor of all time, and her daughter was my

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: father's mother.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: But Georgia Woodthorpe started five

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: generations of Stevens as in show business

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: and then my mother's mother, alice Howell,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: was a silent film comedian and big star.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: speak with I mean, when it comes to I

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: pretty much anything in the industry.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: But considering that you had grandparents

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: who were also in the industry, did you have

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: access to them to kind of pick their brain

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: as well on just whatever questions you had,

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: or just kind of to satisfy your curiosities

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: about the film industry?

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: They were around but sadly I never spoke to

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: them about it.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I was really hardly conscious that they

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: were actors.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: But an important experience for me was when

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I graduated from high school again.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I was supposed to go into the Air Force and

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the Korean War ended, so I had an empty

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: dance card and my father invited me to join

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: him with the two writers, and the four of

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: us would sit every morning and work on the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: screenplay of Giant.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: So I spent eight months with kind of a

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: master class in screenwriting, as I

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: listened and pitched in occasionally as

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: this masterful screenplay was developed

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: that supported a film that has really stood

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the test of time.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: It was Rock Hudson and Elizabeth Taylor and

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: James Dean and you know it is a classic

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: that has made it through the years.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: My father always kind of believed in this

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: idea of the test of time, that a picture is

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: really measured by how it lasts rather than

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: how fashionable it might have been in the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: year it came out.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: seat, to see the evolution of film in the

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Just in general terms, I'm curious how do

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: you think film has evolved?

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Or really more to the point, what do you

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Just kind of generally.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: in the United States, film is the most

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: wonderful messenger the United States has

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: had, and I think one of the reasons we were

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: so long thought of as a leading country in

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the world was everybody was seeing American

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: movies.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: My father, I remember him saying he was in

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: combat, led the combat photography during

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the war in Europe, and he said that the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: French people would see these GIs and they

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: all talked like Jimmy Stewart and Henry

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Fonda and they immediately loved them.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And so we have this wonderful calling card,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: not always the most salutary vision of

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: America, but overall for generations people

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: saw and understood the United States

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: through its movies.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: heard that.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Actually, that's kind of a unique way that

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I think people overseas have had insight

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: into American culture, without a doubt.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Now you know, of course, beyond working

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: with your father and spending time and

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: learning from him, when did you actually

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: start collecting a paycheck, working in

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: this industry and creating and doing things,

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: creating your own projects?

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: After I got out of the Air Force and I

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: worked on the editing of Giant with my

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: father and then I was kind of on the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: pavement looking for work and Jack Webb,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: who was the creator and star of Dragnet and

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: also made several movies, gave me a job as

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: an assistant and I started working with

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Jack Webb and after about a year and a half

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: he said I think you ought to be a director

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: and he assigned a pilot for me to direct

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: that starred his colleague Ben Alexander,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: and the pilot was never sold.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: But then I started directing episodic

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: television for Jack Webb and then I had the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: opportunity to direct Alfred Hitchcock

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Presents and Peter Gunn and that was really

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: my start, actually at a very young age, it

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: was 25.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And I started directing those programs.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Now back then, were your contemporaries?

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Were most of them roughly in the same age

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: range as you, or were the people creating

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: and directing and running the show?

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Were they mostly people with gray hair?

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Oh well, I greatly admired the friends of

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: my father, Fred Zenim and Ruben Mamoulian,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: King Vidor, Frank Capra, William Weiler,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: John Ford.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I was tremendously influenced by them, but

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the people running the studios were

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: certainly a generation older Now, in your

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: early career.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I mean that obviously was very advantageous

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: to have your father be who he was.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I'm sure it managed to get some doors open

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: for you.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: That gave you the opportunity to show what

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: you were capable of, and you then evolved

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: throughout the years and created some

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: things which were kind of uniquely your own,

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: like the American Film Institute.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I was hoping you could touch a little bit

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: on your evolution.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: You know how you went from working with

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: your father to creating your own thing, as

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: it were.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Yeah, well, I've written a book called my

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Place in the Sun Life in the Golden Age of

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Hollywood in Washington, in which I talk

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: about the transition in my life, which was

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I was happily enjoying my career in

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Hollywood.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I had finished working with my father as

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the associate producer on the diary of Anne

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Frank and I directed the location scenes

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: and we were about to start the greatest

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: story ever told, and Edward R Murrow had

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: been appointed by President Kennedy to run

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the United States Information Agency.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And Murrow and I met by coincidence really,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: and the next thing I knew he'd invited me

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: to come back and join him and run the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Motion Picture Division of USIA, and that

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: brought me into the world of Kennedy's new

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: frontier.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Well, edward R Murrow.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: He's just definitely on the Mount Rushmore

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: of American journalists.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: I mean that must have been a wonderful

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: connection to make.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: How did you come to meet Edward R Murrow?

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And when Kennedy was elected, a friend of

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: mine and I at 20th Century Fox had an idea

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: as a public service we wanted to make a

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: film of Jacqueline Kennedy's trip to India.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: That had been announced and we wrote to Ed

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Murrow proposing it.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And before we got a reply we learned that

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Murrow was coming to speak to the film

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: industry at Chasen's Restaurant on a Sunday

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: evening and it was all the moguls and the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: big directors and stars.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And we sent a message to Murrow saying well,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: you know, it is the new frontier.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Would you like to meet some younger people?

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And he accepted.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: On a Friday afternoon at the director's

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: guild Paul Newman was there, richard Zanick,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: stuart Stern, writer a group of us about a

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: dozen met with Murrow and we had a

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: conversation about how we thought we might

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: help with the new frontier.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And the next day I got a call from Sam

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Goldwyn Jr.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: He said Ed Murrow is staying at my father's

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: house and he wonders if you could come by

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: and meet with him on Sunday.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And I went by to see Ed Murrow and we had a

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: wonderful talk and he asked me to come take

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: this job running the motion picture

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: operation, making 300 documentaries a year.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Holy cow, that's 300 documentaries a year.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I mean you must have had a nice staff of

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: collaborators or people helping you, to put

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: this together Well and I enlisted unlike

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: World War II, when Frank Capra and my

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: father and William Weiler, john Houston,

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: all left their studios to go work for the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: war.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: I couldn't call on them, but we found

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: wonderful young filmmakers and we were very

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: successful and made Academy Award-winning

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: films and films that really served the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: country abroad.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: Now, for the most part.

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: What was your focus?

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: The subject matter or genre whatever have

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: you of the documentaries that you were

 

 

 

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Marc Preston: producing?

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Well, one area was putting an honest and

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: more informed face of the civil rights

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: movement in the United States.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: The images seen abroad were police dogs

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: attacking African Americans.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And we made films.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: One was called Nine from Little Rock, which

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: is the story of the nine students who went

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: into Little Rock High School and had the

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: National Guard there to get them through

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: the door, and that was directed by Charles

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Guggenheim and told the story of these nine

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: children and where they went after Little

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Rock High and that did win the Academy

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: Award.

 

 

 

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George Stevens, Jr.: And we made another one on the March on

 

 

 

357

 

00:16:08,644 --> 00:16:11,631

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Washington in 1963, who was directed by

 

 

 

358

 

00:16:11,691 --> 00:16:14,624

 

George Stevens, Jr.: James Blue, and that told the story of that

 

 

 

359

 

00:16:15,265 --> 00:16:18,130

 

George Stevens, Jr.: wonderful day when black and white

 

 

 

360

 

00:16:18,170 --> 00:16:20,734

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Americans, hundreds of thousands of them,

 

 

 

361

 

00:16:21,180 --> 00:16:25,611

 

George Stevens, Jr.: came together to call out for jobs and

 

 

 

362

 

00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:25,952

 

George Stevens, Jr.: freedom.

 

 

 

363

 

00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,205

 

Marc Preston: Now, of course you kind of carried that

 

 

 

364

 

00:16:28,266 --> 00:16:31,203

 

Marc Preston: theme forward, the film about Thurgood

 

 

 

365

 

00:16:31,243 --> 00:16:34,049

 

Marc Preston: Marshall, the separate but equal with

 

 

 

366

 

00:16:34,109 --> 00:16:34,771

 

Marc Preston: Sidney Poitier.

 

 

 

367

 

00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,264

 

Marc Preston: And that kind of brings me to another point

 

 

 

368

 

00:16:37,725 --> 00:16:38,568

 

Marc Preston: or another question.

 

 

 

369

 

00:16:38,628 --> 00:16:42,464

 

Marc Preston: Rather, when you were kind of coming into

 

 

 

370

 

00:16:42,504 --> 00:16:44,628

 

Marc Preston: your own and directing these films with

 

 

 

371

 

00:16:44,789 --> 00:16:47,233

 

Marc Preston: these stars who would become Hollywood

 

 

 

372

 

00:16:47,313 --> 00:16:50,885

 

Marc Preston: icons, what was it like collaborating early

 

 

 

373

 

00:16:51,145 --> 00:16:55,633

 

Marc Preston: on and creating films with these really

 

 

 

374

 

00:16:55,994 --> 00:16:58,451

 

Marc Preston: talented actors, and did you know at the

 

 

 

375

 

00:16:58,492 --> 00:17:01,446

 

Marc Preston: time that they were going to become who

 

 

 

376

 

00:17:01,707 --> 00:17:02,189

 

Marc Preston: they were?

 

 

 

377

 

00:17:02,661 --> 00:17:04,146

 

Marc Preston: I mean, Sidney Poitier is a wonderful

 

 

 

378

 

00:17:04,186 --> 00:17:04,849

 

Marc Preston: example of that.

 

 

 

379

 

00:17:06,642 --> 00:17:10,148

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I'm so glad you asked, Marc, but Sidney is

 

 

 

380

 

00:17:10,268 --> 00:17:15,035

 

George Stevens, Jr.: one of the great figures of our time and a

 

 

 

381

 

00:17:15,781 --> 00:17:20,744

 

George Stevens, Jr.: wonderful person, and he was really the

 

 

 

382

 

00:17:20,904 --> 00:17:25,991

 

George Stevens, Jr.: only actor who could have the weight to

 

 

 

383

 

00:17:27,913 --> 00:17:31,181

 

George Stevens, Jr.: enable us to do a mini-series about

 

 

 

384

 

00:17:32,123 --> 00:17:34,668

 

George Stevens, Jr.: separate but equal, which was the story of

 

 

 

385

 

00:17:34,688 --> 00:17:36,912

 

George Stevens, Jr.: the desegregation of schools and the

 

 

 

386

 

00:17:36,953 --> 00:17:39,304

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Supreme Court decision that outlawed it,

 

 

 

387

 

00:17:39,425 --> 00:17:41,109

 

George Stevens, Jr.: all engineered by Thurgood Marshall.

 

 

 

388

 

00:17:41,980 --> 00:17:44,662

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And Sidney played Thurgood and I guess from

 

 

 

389

 

00:17:44,742 --> 00:17:47,308

 

George Stevens, Jr.: my standpoint I'd been around my father and

 

 

 

390

 

00:17:47,348 --> 00:17:50,403

 

George Stevens, Jr.: around my father with actors and I kind of

 

 

 

391

 

00:17:50,503 --> 00:17:53,050

 

George Stevens, Jr.: absorbed, I think, a lot of his technique,

 

 

 

392

 

00:17:53,792 --> 00:17:57,342

 

George Stevens, Jr.: which was really to be very straightforward

 

 

 

393

 

00:17:57,382 --> 00:17:59,547

 

George Stevens, Jr.: with the actors, to speak very softly with

 

 

 

394

 

00:17:59,587 --> 00:18:03,002

 

George Stevens, Jr.: them, not talk about them, not talk to them

 

 

 

395

 

00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:05,949

 

George Stevens, Jr.: or correct them in front of other actors,

 

 

 

396

 

00:18:05,969 --> 00:18:07,191

 

George Stevens, Jr.: to always take them aside.

 

 

 

397

 

00:18:08,020 --> 00:18:12,831

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And Sidney was just such a talent.

 

 

 

398

 

00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,364

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And also in that film was Burt Lancaster,

 

 

 

399

 

00:18:17,086 --> 00:18:23,123

 

George Stevens, Jr.: another kind of film icon, and Burt was a

 

 

 

400

 

00:18:23,163 --> 00:18:27,704

 

George Stevens, Jr.: little more temperamental than Sidney, but

 

 

 

401

 

00:18:27,765 --> 00:18:32,246

 

George Stevens, Jr.: we all got along great and we won the Emmy

 

 

 

402

 

00:18:32,286 --> 00:18:34,251

 

George Stevens, Jr.: for the best mini-series for separate but

 

 

 

403

 

00:18:34,311 --> 00:18:34,532

 

George Stevens, Jr.: equal.

 

 

 

404

 

00:18:35,021 --> 00:18:36,805

 

Marc Preston: Well, if I'm not mistaken, didn't you also

 

 

 

405

 

00:18:36,885 --> 00:18:38,969

 

Marc Preston: turn that into a stage play as well?

 

 

 

406

 

00:18:39,851 --> 00:18:43,508

 

George Stevens, Jr.: It's interesting, several years later I was

 

 

 

407

 

00:18:43,548 --> 00:18:45,122

 

George Stevens, Jr.: having dinner my wife and I were having

 

 

 

408

 

00:18:45,163 --> 00:18:47,589

 

George Stevens, Jr.: dinner with Sidney and Joanna, his wife,

 

 

 

409

 

00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,845

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and we sat down at the restaurant and I

 

 

 

410

 

00:18:50,886 --> 00:18:52,871

 

George Stevens, Jr.: said well, you know what's going on.

 

 

 

411

 

00:18:53,660 --> 00:18:56,108

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And Sidney had kind of a princely way of

 

 

 

412

 

00:18:56,168 --> 00:18:58,305

 

George Stevens, Jr.: talking and he looked at me and he said

 

 

 

413

 

00:18:59,207 --> 00:19:02,376

 

George Stevens, Jr.: it's been 40 years since Raisin and the Sun,

 

 

 

414

 

00:19:03,238 --> 00:19:05,286

 

George Stevens, Jr.: the Broadway play that made him.

 

 

 

415

 

00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,480

 

George Stevens, Jr.: He said I want to go back to Broadway and I

 

 

 

416

 

00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:10,623

 

George Stevens, Jr.: don't know where it came from.

 

 

 

417

 

00:19:10,843 --> 00:19:13,810

 

George Stevens, Jr.: But I said how about I write a play about

 

 

 

418

 

00:19:13,850 --> 00:19:14,592

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Thurgood Marshall?

 

 

 

419

 

00:19:15,521 --> 00:19:16,926

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And Sidney looked at me and he said that

 

 

 

420

 

00:19:16,946 --> 00:19:17,648

 

George Stevens, Jr.: would be wonderful.

 

 

 

421

 

00:19:19,322 --> 00:19:22,487

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And so I wrote the play and Sidney and I

 

 

 

422

 

00:19:22,808 --> 00:19:25,693

 

George Stevens, Jr.: rehearsed it in my apartment in Los Angeles

 

 

 

423

 

00:19:25,753 --> 00:19:26,694

 

George Stevens, Jr.: on several occasions.

 

 

 

424

 

00:19:27,741 --> 00:19:31,189

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And then one day he said to me he said you

 

 

 

425

 

00:19:31,209 --> 00:19:34,062

 

George Stevens, Jr.: know, I'm 75 years old, I've been trying to

 

 

 

426

 

00:19:34,142 --> 00:19:36,088

 

George Stevens, Jr.: learn this play and I can't learn it.

 

 

 

427

 

00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,065

 

George Stevens, Jr.: You know, we can do it as a movie.

 

 

 

428

 

00:19:39,141 --> 00:19:40,726

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And I said we've really done the movie.

 

 

 

429

 

00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:45,367

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So we moved on and I next did it with James

 

 

 

430

 

00:19:45,467 --> 00:19:49,013

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Earl Jones at the Newport Playhouse in

 

 

 

431

 

00:19:49,053 --> 00:19:51,124

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Connecticut on our way to Broadway.

 

 

 

432

 

00:19:52,220 --> 00:19:55,027

 

George Stevens, Jr.: But James Earl in that case also had

 

 

 

433

 

00:19:55,147 --> 00:19:56,731

 

George Stevens, Jr.: trouble learning the play.

 

 

 

434

 

00:19:56,811 --> 00:19:58,564

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Although he was able to do plays with

 

 

 

435

 

00:19:58,685 --> 00:20:01,006

 

George Stevens, Jr.: actors, the idea of a solo play was

 

 

 

436

 

00:20:01,066 --> 00:20:03,823

 

George Stevens, Jr.: difficult and we eventually did it with

 

 

 

437

 

00:20:03,863 --> 00:20:06,189

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Lawrence Fishburne, who turned out to be a

 

 

 

438

 

00:20:06,269 --> 00:20:09,464

 

George Stevens, Jr.: perfect Thurgood, and we went to Broadway

 

 

 

439

 

00:20:09,484 --> 00:20:11,189

 

George Stevens, Jr.: with Thurgood and had a wonderful success,

 

 

 

440

 

00:20:12,260 --> 00:20:13,564

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and it's still being played around the

 

 

 

441

 

00:20:13,624 --> 00:20:15,049

 

George Stevens, Jr.: country by different playhouses.

 

 

 

442

 

00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,786

 

Marc Preston: Well, naturally, lawrence Fishburne is

 

 

 

443

 

00:20:18,347 --> 00:20:20,941

 

Marc Preston: exceptionally, exceptionally talented, but

 

 

 

444

 

00:20:21,221 --> 00:20:23,747

 

Marc Preston: night after night to be able to hear James

 

 

 

445

 

00:20:23,807 --> 00:20:25,631

 

Marc Preston: Earl Jones with that commanding voice

 

 

 

446

 

00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:27,985

 

Marc Preston: delivering those lines must have been a

 

 

 

447

 

00:20:28,046 --> 00:20:28,266

 

Marc Preston: treat.

 

 

 

448

 

00:20:29,060 --> 00:20:30,963

 

Marc Preston: It's interesting in that light.

 

 

 

449

 

00:20:31,223 --> 00:20:37,313

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Marc Cindy and James Earl brought enormous

 

 

 

450

 

00:20:37,413 --> 00:20:38,475

 

George Stevens, Jr.: gifts and reputation.

 

 

 

451

 

00:20:39,041 --> 00:20:41,289

 

George Stevens, Jr.: But it turned out that Lawrence, who was in

 

 

 

452

 

00:20:41,329 --> 00:20:44,440

 

George Stevens, Jr.: his 40s, was able to come out playing the

 

 

 

453

 

00:20:44,681 --> 00:20:47,225

 

George Stevens, Jr.: older Thurgood and without any change of

 

 

 

454

 

00:20:47,265 --> 00:20:49,153

 

George Stevens, Jr.: makeup, just taking his glasses and his

 

 

 

455

 

00:20:49,234 --> 00:20:51,703

 

George Stevens, Jr.: attitude, then play the younger Thurgood

 

 

 

456

 

00:20:52,104 --> 00:20:53,789

 

George Stevens, Jr.: through to becoming the Supreme Court

 

 

 

457

 

00:20:53,829 --> 00:20:54,271

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Justice.

 

 

 

458

 

00:20:54,380 --> 00:20:57,690

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So he brought a special quality to it.

 

 

 

459

 

00:20:58,380 --> 00:20:59,944

 

Marc Preston: We've talked about all the different hats

 

 

 

460

 

00:21:00,004 --> 00:21:01,868

 

Marc Preston: you've worn writing and directing,

 

 

 

461

 

00:21:02,309 --> 00:21:02,810

 

Marc Preston: producing.

 

 

 

462

 

00:21:04,060 --> 00:21:05,404

 

Marc Preston: When you're working on a project, do you

 

 

 

463

 

00:21:05,444 --> 00:21:07,930

 

Marc Preston: have a preference on what you would like to

 

 

 

464

 

00:21:07,991 --> 00:21:10,445

 

Marc Preston: do, or do you like to wear as many hats as

 

 

 

465

 

00:21:10,525 --> 00:21:12,830

 

Marc Preston: possible on each project you work on?

 

 

 

466

 

00:21:13,780 --> 00:21:15,186

 

George Stevens, Jr.: It varies case by case.

 

 

 

467

 

00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,329

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I wrote and directed separate but equal.

 

 

 

468

 

00:21:20,580 --> 00:21:23,948

 

George Stevens, Jr.: But in other projects I write or co-write

 

 

 

469

 

00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:25,091

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and produce.

 

 

 

470

 

00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:29,527

 

George Stevens, Jr.: It varies from case to case, but always one

 

 

 

471

 

00:21:29,607 --> 00:21:31,552

 

George Stevens, Jr.: is interested in the construction of the

 

 

 

472

 

00:21:31,592 --> 00:21:35,526

 

George Stevens, Jr.: story, because that's the heart of any of

 

 

 

473

 

00:21:35,586 --> 00:21:37,350

 

George Stevens, Jr.: these visual mediums.

 

 

 

474

 

00:21:44,488 --> 00:21:45,310

 

Marc Preston: Now going forward.

 

 

 

475

 

00:21:45,630 --> 00:21:47,513

 

Marc Preston: We're talking about the other things you've

 

 

 

476

 

00:21:47,533 --> 00:21:49,341

 

Marc Preston: done in addition to writing, producing,

 

 

 

477

 

00:21:49,562 --> 00:21:52,586

 

Marc Preston: directing the AFI, or American Film

 

 

 

478

 

00:21:52,646 --> 00:21:53,128

 

Marc Preston: Institute.

 

 

 

479

 

00:21:53,570 --> 00:21:55,518

 

Marc Preston: For those that are not as acquainted with

 

 

 

480

 

00:21:55,579 --> 00:21:57,800

 

Marc Preston: it, could you kind of touch on it what

 

 

 

481

 

00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,369

 

Marc Preston: exactly its job is or the functions of the

 

 

 

482

 

00:22:02,429 --> 00:22:05,194

 

Marc Preston: AFI, as well as how you got involved in

 

 

 

483

 

00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:06,365

 

Marc Preston: helping to create it?

 

 

 

484

 

00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,469

 

George Stevens, Jr.: The AFI was established to advance the art

 

 

 

485

 

00:22:10,509 --> 00:22:11,752

 

George Stevens, Jr.: of film in the United States.

 

 

 

486

 

00:22:12,020 --> 00:22:16,352

 

George Stevens, Jr.: What that meant in those days was film

 

 

 

487

 

00:22:16,392 --> 00:22:18,577

 

George Stevens, Jr.: preservation and film restoration, because

 

 

 

488

 

00:22:19,179 --> 00:22:21,524

 

George Stevens, Jr.: half of the films that had been made were

 

 

 

489

 

00:22:21,865 --> 00:22:25,492

 

George Stevens, Jr.: on nitrate, all were on nitrate stock and a

 

 

 

490

 

00:22:25,672 --> 00:22:27,464

 

George Stevens, Jr.: great proportion of them were lost or

 

 

 

491

 

00:22:27,524 --> 00:22:27,825

 

George Stevens, Jr.: missing.

 

 

 

492

 

00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,608

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So, working with other archives, we did a

 

 

 

493

 

00:22:31,688 --> 00:22:32,831

 

George Stevens, Jr.: restoration project.

 

 

 

494

 

00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,768

 

George Stevens, Jr.: There are now 45,000 films in the AFI

 

 

 

495

 

00:22:37,828 --> 00:22:39,611

 

George Stevens, Jr.: collection in the Library of Congress.

 

 

 

496

 

00:22:41,740 --> 00:22:43,765

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Also, the advancement of filmmakers,

 

 

 

497

 

00:22:43,825 --> 00:22:46,531

 

George Stevens, Jr.: helping filmmakers be trained and make

 

 

 

498

 

00:22:46,551 --> 00:22:46,952

 

George Stevens, Jr.: their way.

 

 

 

499

 

00:22:47,180 --> 00:22:51,109

 

George Stevens, Jr.: We started the AFI Center for Advanced Film

 

 

 

500

 

00:22:51,149 --> 00:22:55,138

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Studies in Beverly Hills in 1969 at the

 

 

 

501

 

00:22:55,619 --> 00:22:56,662

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Greystone Mansion.

 

 

 

502

 

00:22:56,702 --> 00:22:59,648

 

George Stevens, Jr.: There it's now called the AFI Conservatory,

 

 

 

503

 

00:23:00,281 --> 00:23:02,925

 

George Stevens, Jr.: but in that first class at AFI were

 

 

 

504

 

00:23:03,346 --> 00:23:07,333

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Terrence Malick, Paul Schrader, Caleb

 

 

 

505

 

00:23:07,373 --> 00:23:09,965

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Deschanel, the great cinematographer and

 

 

 

506

 

00:23:09,985 --> 00:23:11,349

 

George Stevens, Jr.: the next year David Lynch.

 

 

 

507

 

00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:16,328

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So for 50 years the AFI Conservatory has

 

 

 

508

 

00:23:16,388 --> 00:23:21,698

 

George Stevens, Jr.: been a training ground for new filmmakers,

 

 

 

509

 

00:23:22,139 --> 00:23:24,347

 

George Stevens, Jr.: writers, directors, cinematographers,

 

 

 

510

 

00:23:24,427 --> 00:23:24,889

 

George Stevens, Jr.: cameramen.

 

 

 

511

 

00:23:24,940 --> 00:23:27,423

 

Marc Preston: Now, of course, beyond the AFI, you also

 

 

 

512

 

00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:29,487

 

Marc Preston: were very instrumental in getting the

 

 

 

513

 

00:23:29,605 --> 00:23:31,287

 

Marc Preston: Kennedy Center honors off the ground.

 

 

 

514

 

00:23:31,780 --> 00:23:33,885

 

Marc Preston: Can you discuss a little bit about the

 

 

 

515

 

00:23:33,925 --> 00:23:35,569

 

Marc Preston: genesis of that project?

 

 

 

516

 

00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,642

 

George Stevens, Jr.: The AFI.

 

 

 

517

 

00:23:37,703 --> 00:23:40,773

 

George Stevens, Jr.: When I was running it had its Eastern

 

 

 

518

 

00:23:40,873 --> 00:23:42,860

 

George Stevens, Jr.: office in the John F Kennedy Center for the

 

 

 

519

 

00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,487

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Performing Arts, which was Kennedy's

 

 

 

520

 

00:23:45,808 --> 00:23:49,304

 

George Stevens, Jr.: memorial, and I had done an event for AFI's

 

 

 

521

 

00:23:49,344 --> 00:23:52,250

 

George Stevens, Jr.: 10th anniversary for CBS television.

 

 

 

522

 

00:23:52,290 --> 00:23:54,802

 

George Stevens, Jr.: That was very successful and I went down

 

 

 

523

 

00:23:55,103 --> 00:23:57,571

 

George Stevens, Jr.: the next day and said to the head of the

 

 

 

524

 

00:23:57,631 --> 00:24:00,642

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Kennedy Center you ought to have your own

 

 

 

525

 

00:24:00,682 --> 00:24:00,903

 

George Stevens, Jr.: show.

 

 

 

526

 

00:24:02,681 --> 00:24:04,288

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And he said do you have any ideas?

 

 

 

527

 

00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,648

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And I said the idea is carved in marble on

 

 

 

528

 

00:24:07,668 --> 00:24:09,653

 

George Stevens, Jr.: the wall of this building in the words of

 

 

 

529

 

00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,623

 

George Stevens, Jr.: President Kennedy.

 

 

 

530

 

00:24:11,881 --> 00:24:15,231

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And President Kennedy had said I look

 

 

 

531

 

00:24:15,271 --> 00:24:17,278

 

George Stevens, Jr.: forward to an America that won't be afraid

 

 

 

532

 

00:24:17,659 --> 00:24:20,168

 

George Stevens, Jr.: of grace and beauty, that will reward

 

 

 

533

 

00:24:20,208 --> 00:24:22,777

 

George Stevens, Jr.: achievement in the arts the way we reward

 

 

 

534

 

00:24:22,837 --> 00:24:25,105

 

George Stevens, Jr.: achievement in business and statecraft.

 

 

 

535

 

00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:28,685

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And therein was the idea for honoring

 

 

 

536

 

00:24:29,286 --> 00:24:31,870

 

George Stevens, Jr.: America's finest performing artists.

 

 

 

537

 

00:24:35,002 --> 00:24:39,326

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And we began that and I co-wrote and

 

 

 

538

 

00:24:39,867 --> 00:24:42,840

 

George Stevens, Jr.: produced that for 37 years Now.

 

 

 

539

 

00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,785

 

Marc Preston: speaking of President Kennedy, you had

 

 

 

540

 

00:24:44,845 --> 00:24:48,393

 

Marc Preston: mentioned that you were part of a project

 

 

 

541

 

00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,702

 

Marc Preston: to shoot a documentary or some film of

 

 

 

542

 

00:24:53,062 --> 00:24:54,903

 

Marc Preston: Jacqueline Kennedy's trip to India.

 

 

 

543

 

00:24:55,540 --> 00:24:58,328

 

Marc Preston: Did you go along with the first lady on

 

 

 

544

 

00:24:58,349 --> 00:24:58,710

 

Marc Preston: that trip?

 

 

 

545

 

00:24:59,407 --> 00:25:01,593

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I didn't go on the trip, but we sent a film

 

 

 

546

 

00:25:01,613 --> 00:25:03,891

 

George Stevens, Jr.: crew on the trip and made the film.

 

 

 

547

 

00:25:04,205 --> 00:25:05,610

 

Marc Preston: Now I'm curious did you have any

 

 

 

548

 

00:25:06,092 --> 00:25:07,627

 

Marc Preston: relationship with, or did you interact

 

 

 

549

 

00:25:08,108 --> 00:25:10,234

 

Marc Preston: regularly with, the Kennedy family?

 

 

 

550

 

00:25:10,495 --> 00:25:10,836

 

Marc Preston: I did.

 

 

 

551

 

00:25:11,245 --> 00:25:12,509

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Making films for Ed Murrow.

 

 

 

552

 

00:25:12,610 --> 00:25:14,808

 

George Stevens, Jr.: President Kennedy took an interest in the

 

 

 

553

 

00:25:14,849 --> 00:25:18,090

 

George Stevens, Jr.: films we were making and I would receive an

 

 

 

554

 

00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:21,228

 

George Stevens, Jr.: occasional phone call from him, reacting to

 

 

 

555

 

00:25:21,308 --> 00:25:24,490

 

George Stevens, Jr.: one of the films we made and asking where

 

 

 

556

 

00:25:24,530 --> 00:25:27,971

 

George Stevens, Jr.: it was being shown and how many countries,

 

 

 

557

 

00:25:28,071 --> 00:25:28,853

 

George Stevens, Jr.: what languages.

 

 

 

558

 

00:25:29,846 --> 00:25:32,534

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And on another occasion he called about a

 

 

 

559

 

00:25:32,574 --> 00:25:34,986

 

George Stevens, Jr.: film called the Five Cities of June, which

 

 

 

560

 

00:25:36,189 --> 00:25:39,527

 

George Stevens, Jr.: included his trip to Berlin where he made

 

 

 

561

 

00:25:39,587 --> 00:25:43,286

 

George Stevens, Jr.: his famous Ich bin Einbrenner speech beside

 

 

 

562

 

00:25:43,326 --> 00:25:46,656

 

George Stevens, Jr.: the Berlin Wall in 1963.

 

 

 

563

 

00:25:50,872 --> 00:25:53,247

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And he called me to say I think you ought

 

 

 

564

 

00:25:53,267 --> 00:25:55,494

 

George Stevens, Jr.: to enter that film in the Academy Awards,

 

 

 

565

 

00:25:56,265 --> 00:25:58,472

 

George Stevens, Jr.: which showed kind of that President Kennedy

 

 

 

566

 

00:25:58,532 --> 00:26:01,332

 

George Stevens, Jr.: had all sorts of interests and appetites,

 

 

 

567

 

00:26:01,725 --> 00:26:01,886

 

George Stevens, Jr.: you know.

 

 

 

568

 

00:26:01,946 --> 00:26:03,506

 

Marc Preston: I'm thinking back to what you said about

 

 

 

569

 

00:26:03,546 --> 00:26:06,534

 

Marc Preston: how your father believed that films should

 

 

 

570

 

00:26:06,594 --> 00:26:07,076

 

Marc Preston: endure.

 

 

 

571

 

00:26:07,385 --> 00:26:09,914

 

Marc Preston: You know, and you've had the opportunity to

 

 

 

572

 

00:26:10,054 --> 00:26:13,292

 

Marc Preston: interact with a wide range of folks and

 

 

 

573

 

00:26:13,914 --> 00:26:15,518

 

Marc Preston: actors like Sidney Poitier.

 

 

 

574

 

00:26:16,886 --> 00:26:19,493

 

Marc Preston: You know the films he's in definitely

 

 

 

575

 

00:26:19,553 --> 00:26:22,472

 

Marc Preston: endure and even for myself I look back at

 

 

 

576

 

00:26:22,492 --> 00:26:24,490

 

Marc Preston: films I enjoy with, let's say, like Cary

 

 

 

577

 

00:26:24,510 --> 00:26:26,772

 

Marc Preston: Grant, you know, watching things he was in.

 

 

 

578

 

00:26:27,466 --> 00:26:29,307

 

Marc Preston: I still very much enjoy them and I think

 

 

 

579

 

00:26:29,447 --> 00:26:32,506

 

Marc Preston: they were, you know, great commentaries on

 

 

 

580

 

00:26:32,526 --> 00:26:34,787

 

Marc Preston: the time and just, I think, wonderful works

 

 

 

581

 

00:26:35,289 --> 00:26:36,213

 

Marc Preston: of art most certainly.

 

 

 

582

 

00:26:36,405 --> 00:26:40,896

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Can I tell you a story that relates to this?

 

 

 

583

 

00:26:42,325 --> 00:26:46,195

 

George Stevens, Jr.: In 1951 I went to the Academy Awards with

 

 

 

584

 

00:26:46,256 --> 00:26:52,720

 

George Stevens, Jr.: my father and I sat next to him and Joseph

 

 

 

585

 

00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,273

 

George Stevens, Jr.: L Manckowitz, a writer, producer, director,

 

 

 

586

 

00:26:57,314 --> 00:26:59,226

 

George Stevens, Jr.: had won last year's award and he was

 

 

 

587

 

00:26:59,286 --> 00:27:02,266

 

George Stevens, Jr.: presenting it and he read the nominees John

 

 

 

588

 

00:27:02,346 --> 00:27:04,193

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Houston, the asphalt jungle.

 

 

 

589

 

00:27:05,825 --> 00:27:07,611

 

George Stevens, Jr.: William Weiler, detective story.

 

 

 

590

 

00:27:08,385 --> 00:27:11,093

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Vincent Minnelli, an American in Paris.

 

 

 

591

 

00:27:11,945 --> 00:27:15,695

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Elia Kazan, a streetcar named Desire.

 

 

 

592

 

00:27:16,265 --> 00:27:18,373

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And George Stevens, a place in the sun

 

 

 

593

 

00:27:19,705 --> 00:27:21,752

 

George Stevens, Jr.: quite an array in one year.

 

 

 

594

 

00:27:22,665 --> 00:27:27,056

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And driving home the car, the Oscar was on

 

 

 

595

 

00:27:27,096 --> 00:27:29,746

 

George Stevens, Jr.: the seat between us in the car and I

 

 

 

596

 

00:27:29,947 --> 00:27:32,233

 

George Stevens, Jr.: remember my father looking over at me and

 

 

 

597

 

00:27:32,293 --> 00:27:35,411

 

George Stevens, Jr.: saying we'll have a better idea what kind

 

 

 

598

 

00:27:35,431 --> 00:27:37,650

 

George Stevens, Jr.: of a film this is in about 25 years.

 

 

 

599

 

00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:41,673

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And he was talking about the test of time.

 

 

 

600

 

00:27:42,245 --> 00:27:44,693

 

George Stevens, Jr.: You know he, having come from the theater,

 

 

 

601

 

00:27:45,405 --> 00:27:50,369

 

George Stevens, Jr.: knew the importance of art lasting, and now

 

 

 

602

 

00:27:50,409 --> 00:27:54,028

 

George Stevens, Jr.: he I'm certain he did not know that on that

 

 

 

603

 

00:27:54,108 --> 00:27:57,469

 

George Stevens, Jr.: night in 1951 he was talking to the future

 

 

 

604

 

00:27:57,550 --> 00:27:59,388

 

George Stevens, Jr.: founding director of the American Film

 

 

 

605

 

00:27:59,449 --> 00:28:02,551

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Institute, but he was giving me an idea

 

 

 

606

 

00:28:03,053 --> 00:28:05,449

 

George Stevens, Jr.: that was at the core of everything AFI did

 

 

 

607

 

00:28:05,871 --> 00:28:08,732

 

George Stevens, Jr.: the test of time when it comes to movies.

 

 

 

608

 

00:28:10,385 --> 00:28:13,013

 

Marc Preston: You know that's wonderful, you know that's

 

 

 

609

 

00:28:13,054 --> 00:28:13,495

 

Marc Preston: so true.

 

 

 

610

 

00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:15,813

 

Marc Preston: I mean, there are so many movies that maybe

 

 

 

611

 

00:28:15,925 --> 00:28:19,275

 

Marc Preston: didn't even win an award that not only

 

 

 

612

 

00:28:19,335 --> 00:28:21,912

 

Marc Preston: stand the test of time but become even more

 

 

 

613

 

00:28:21,932 --> 00:28:23,690

 

Marc Preston: appreciated as the years go on.

 

 

 

614

 

00:28:25,426 --> 00:28:27,392

 

Marc Preston: And you know you had mentioned the

 

 

 

615

 

00:28:27,433 --> 00:28:28,989

 

Marc Preston: relationship you had to the Kennedy White

 

 

 

616

 

00:28:29,030 --> 00:28:31,531

 

Marc Preston: House and you, from what I understand, you

 

 

 

617

 

00:28:32,153 --> 00:28:34,831

 

Marc Preston: had relationships with other White House

 

 

 

618

 

00:28:34,851 --> 00:28:35,513

 

Marc Preston: administrations.

 

 

 

619

 

00:28:35,965 --> 00:28:37,627

 

Marc Preston: Now you did have a relationship with the

 

 

 

620

 

00:28:37,747 --> 00:28:39,554

 

Marc Preston: Obama administration as well, correct?

 

 

 

621

 

00:28:39,765 --> 00:28:40,086

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I did.

 

 

 

622

 

00:28:40,246 --> 00:28:43,936

 

Marc Preston: I was a very early supporter of President

 

 

 

623

 

00:28:43,996 --> 00:28:49,132

 

Marc Preston: Obama and we did eight years of Kennedy

 

 

 

624

 

00:28:49,153 --> 00:28:51,831

 

Marc Preston: Center honors together and eight years of

 

 

 

625

 

00:28:51,871 --> 00:28:53,550

 

Marc Preston: another show that I did called Christmas in

 

 

 

626

 

00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:58,817

 

Marc Preston: Washington, so I had the pleasure of being

 

 

 

627

 

00:28:58,837 --> 00:29:01,728

 

Marc Preston: associated with him Now that's such a

 

 

 

628

 

00:29:01,809 --> 00:29:04,568

 

Marc Preston: wonderful opportunity, I mean for someone

 

 

 

629

 

00:29:04,588 --> 00:29:07,067

 

Marc Preston: who makes movies and creates to be able to

 

 

 

630

 

00:29:08,552 --> 00:29:10,545

 

Marc Preston: put some notches along the timeline, to

 

 

 

631

 

00:29:10,606 --> 00:29:14,816

 

Marc Preston: document American film and to be a part of

 

 

 

632

 

00:29:15,177 --> 00:29:17,893

 

Marc Preston: you know, to some degree being a part of

 

 

 

633

 

00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:22,627

 

Marc Preston: writing the creative history of the US Now

 

 

 

634

 

00:29:22,708 --> 00:29:23,109

 

Marc Preston: coming up.

 

 

 

635

 

00:29:23,270 --> 00:29:24,173

 

Marc Preston: What were you watching?

 

 

 

636

 

00:29:24,546 --> 00:29:27,874

 

Marc Preston: What movies or entertainment really

 

 

 

637

 

00:29:27,914 --> 00:29:28,696

 

Marc Preston: captivated you?

 

 

 

638

 

00:29:29,485 --> 00:29:29,686

 

Marc Preston: That?

 

 

 

639

 

00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:31,854

 

Marc Preston: you know I don't know if they necessarily

 

 

 

640

 

00:29:31,925 --> 00:29:33,571

 

Marc Preston: inspired you, but what did you like?

 

 

 

641

 

00:29:33,591 --> 00:29:35,408

 

Marc Preston: To grab some popcorn, sit down and watch

 

 

 

642

 

00:29:35,809 --> 00:29:36,491

 

Marc Preston: when you were coming up.

 

 

 

643

 

00:29:37,645 --> 00:29:39,552

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I had become acquainted with my father's

 

 

 

644

 

00:29:39,613 --> 00:29:43,495

 

George Stevens, Jr.: work and was admiring of the work of his

 

 

 

645

 

00:29:43,575 --> 00:29:48,857

 

George Stevens, Jr.: colleagues and on the waterfront and from

 

 

 

646

 

00:29:48,897 --> 00:29:50,808

 

George Stevens, Jr.: here to eternity, and pictures like that

 

 

 

647

 

00:29:51,451 --> 00:29:55,093

 

George Stevens, Jr.: were, you know, I favored the ones that

 

 

 

648

 

00:29:55,133 --> 00:29:56,586

 

George Stevens, Jr.: were going to be classics, although I

 

 

 

649

 

00:29:56,626 --> 00:29:58,252

 

George Stevens, Jr.: didn't know they were going to be classics.

 

 

 

650

 

00:29:58,885 --> 00:30:02,035

 

George Stevens, Jr.: But my first kind of we're looking back,

 

 

 

651

 

00:30:02,105 --> 00:30:04,272

 

George Stevens, Jr.: where I realized I had my first instincts

 

 

 

652

 

00:30:04,332 --> 00:30:04,893

 

George Stevens, Jr.: about film.

 

 

 

653

 

00:30:05,845 --> 00:30:07,812

 

George Stevens, Jr.: We lived in Toluca Lake in North Hollywood

 

 

 

654

 

00:30:09,328 --> 00:30:12,265

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and dad had a 16 millimeter projector and

 

 

 

655

 

00:30:12,305 --> 00:30:14,091

 

George Stevens, Jr.: he taught me to thread it when I was 12

 

 

 

656

 

00:30:14,132 --> 00:30:17,272

 

George Stevens, Jr.: years old and set up the screen on tripods

 

 

 

657

 

00:30:18,125 --> 00:30:20,734

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and he had prints of the movies that he'd

 

 

 

658

 

00:30:20,794 --> 00:30:21,035

 

George Stevens, Jr.: made.

 

 

 

659

 

00:30:21,145 --> 00:30:23,452

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And I'd looked at some of the Wheeler and

 

 

 

660

 

00:30:23,472 --> 00:30:24,475

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Woolsey comedies.

 

 

 

661

 

00:30:24,625 --> 00:30:30,287

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And along came in 1939, gunga Dean, a film

 

 

 

662

 

00:30:30,327 --> 00:30:33,145

 

George Stevens, Jr.: with Victor McLaughlin and Carrie Grant and

 

 

 

663

 

00:30:33,506 --> 00:30:37,456

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Douglas Fairbanks Jr, a classic adventure

 

 

 

664

 

00:30:37,977 --> 00:30:39,549

 

George Stevens, Jr.: comedy that took place in India.

 

 

 

665

 

00:30:40,605 --> 00:30:45,051

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And I would thread that movie up and I

 

 

 

666

 

00:30:45,271 --> 00:30:48,831

 

George Stevens, Jr.: sensed a dimension in it and at the center

 

 

 

667

 

00:30:48,851 --> 00:30:51,229

 

George Stevens, Jr.: of it was Gunga Dean, the water bearer, the

 

 

 

668

 

00:30:51,309 --> 00:30:53,829

 

George Stevens, Jr.: regimental beastie, and he wanted to be a

 

 

 

669

 

00:30:53,889 --> 00:30:57,052

 

George Stevens, Jr.: soldier and, you know, toward the end of

 

 

 

670

 

00:30:57,072 --> 00:31:00,354

 

George Stevens, Jr.: the movie he saves the regiment and then

 

 

 

671

 

00:31:00,394 --> 00:31:02,970

 

George Stevens, Jr.: his funeral with wonderful Alfred Newman

 

 

 

672

 

00:31:03,492 --> 00:31:04,375

 

George Stevens, Jr.: music playing.

 

 

 

673

 

00:31:04,905 --> 00:31:07,092

 

George Stevens, Jr.: They have his burial and the British

 

 

 

674

 

00:31:07,152 --> 00:31:09,649

 

George Stevens, Jr.: commander says you're a better man than I

 

 

 

675

 

00:31:09,790 --> 00:31:14,114

 

George Stevens, Jr.: am, Gunga Dean, and it was touching to a 12

 

 

 

676

 

00:31:14,154 --> 00:31:16,912

 

George Stevens, Jr.: year old and I think I started to develop a

 

 

 

677

 

00:31:17,393 --> 00:31:20,493

 

George Stevens, Jr.: sensibility for films at that time.

 

 

 

678

 

00:31:20,905 --> 00:31:23,452

 

Marc Preston: Now, as we kind of bring it forward a

 

 

 

679

 

00:31:23,492 --> 00:31:26,009

 

Marc Preston: little bit, going from the things you

 

 

 

680

 

00:31:26,049 --> 00:31:29,446

 

Marc Preston: enjoyed, things that inspired you and when

 

 

 

681

 

00:31:29,467 --> 00:31:31,488

 

Marc Preston: you developed your sensibility for what

 

 

 

682

 

00:31:31,528 --> 00:31:32,291

 

Marc Preston: good film was.

 

 

 

683

 

00:31:33,765 --> 00:31:35,106

 

Marc Preston: If we were to look at, let's say, the last

 

 

 

684

 

00:31:35,246 --> 00:31:38,767

 

Marc Preston: five to 10 years in theaters, what have you

 

 

 

685

 

00:31:38,808 --> 00:31:41,651

 

Marc Preston: liked to go see, what kind of movies, or

 

 

 

686

 

00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:44,249

 

Marc Preston: the performers, directors, who do you like

 

 

 

687

 

00:31:44,289 --> 00:31:44,630

 

Marc Preston: to watch?

 

 

 

688

 

00:31:44,725 --> 00:31:45,830

 

Marc Preston: What kind of films do you enjoy?

 

 

 

689

 

00:31:46,786 --> 00:31:49,633

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I certainly like the Christopher Nolan

 

 

 

690

 

00:31:50,595 --> 00:31:50,976

 

George Stevens, Jr.: films.

 

 

 

691

 

00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:57,373

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I loved Jane Campion's picture this year

 

 

 

692

 

00:31:58,286 --> 00:32:02,496

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and also I was very attracted to Will

 

 

 

693

 

00:32:02,536 --> 00:32:07,335

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Smith's performance and the story in the

 

 

 

694

 

00:32:07,355 --> 00:32:10,493

 

George Stevens, Jr.: picture about the Venus Williams and her

 

 

 

695

 

00:32:10,513 --> 00:32:10,834

 

George Stevens, Jr.: sister.

 

 

 

696

 

00:32:12,547 --> 00:32:14,172

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So there's an awful lot of fine work being

 

 

 

697

 

00:32:14,212 --> 00:32:14,373

 

George Stevens, Jr.: done.

 

 

 

698

 

00:32:15,245 --> 00:32:17,493

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I think too much of the investment in film

 

 

 

699

 

00:32:18,145 --> 00:32:23,667

 

George Stevens, Jr.: is being devoted to the tent poles and the

 

 

 

700

 

00:32:23,788 --> 00:32:26,768

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Marvel comics pictures, and so the

 

 

 

701

 

00:32:27,009 --> 00:32:30,385

 

George Stevens, Jr.: filmmakers who are making more original and

 

 

 

702

 

00:32:30,546 --> 00:32:33,406

 

George Stevens, Jr.: individual works sometimes are working with

 

 

 

703

 

00:32:33,446 --> 00:32:36,809

 

George Stevens, Jr.: lesser budgets in fact, always are working

 

 

 

704

 

00:32:36,850 --> 00:32:39,267

 

George Stevens, Jr.: with lesser budgets than my father and

 

 

 

705

 

00:32:39,308 --> 00:32:42,275

 

George Stevens, Jr.: David Lean and Alfred Hitchcock were.

 

 

 

706

 

00:32:43,105 --> 00:32:46,686

 

Marc Preston: Now I think it was Steven Spielberg, some

 

 

 

707

 

00:32:46,726 --> 00:32:49,133

 

Marc Preston: time ago, had said, or had alluded to

 

 

 

708

 

00:32:50,285 --> 00:32:52,654

 

Marc Preston: movies that will be coming out in theaters,

 

 

 

709

 

00:32:52,785 --> 00:32:54,886

 

Marc Preston: that there will probably be less, and the

 

 

 

710

 

00:32:55,027 --> 00:32:56,507

 

Marc Preston: ones that are going to show up are gonna be

 

 

 

711

 

00:32:56,567 --> 00:32:58,207

 

Marc Preston: the really big movies that will be in

 

 

 

712

 

00:32:58,247 --> 00:33:01,313

 

Marc Preston: theaters, have a little bit longer run time,

 

 

 

713

 

00:33:03,226 --> 00:33:04,972

 

Marc Preston: and that means less movies and theaters,

 

 

 

714

 

00:33:05,585 --> 00:33:08,495

 

Marc Preston: more movies being released and streaming

 

 

 

715

 

00:33:09,207 --> 00:33:11,534

 

Marc Preston: and for people to be able to watch at home.

 

 

 

716

 

00:33:12,446 --> 00:33:16,436

 

Marc Preston: Do you have an opinion as far as where

 

 

 

717

 

00:33:16,456 --> 00:33:17,999

 

Marc Preston: movies are released?

 

 

 

718

 

00:33:18,045 --> 00:33:20,113

 

Marc Preston: Do you think that there's something special

 

 

 

719

 

00:33:20,225 --> 00:33:23,186

 

Marc Preston: about keeping more films in the theater, or

 

 

 

720

 

00:33:23,367 --> 00:33:24,592

 

Marc Preston: does it even make a difference?

 

 

 

721

 

00:33:24,905 --> 00:33:27,773

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Well, I'm torn because I love the big

 

 

 

722

 

00:33:27,834 --> 00:33:28,195

 

George Stevens, Jr.: screen.

 

 

 

723

 

00:33:28,885 --> 00:33:30,251

 

George Stevens, Jr.: That's what I was raised on.

 

 

 

724

 

00:33:31,885 --> 00:33:35,506

 

George Stevens, Jr.: We just did a restoration premiere that

 

 

 

725

 

00:33:35,586 --> 00:33:37,773

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Steven Spielberg and I presented together

 

 

 

726

 

00:33:38,645 --> 00:33:42,568

 

George Stevens, Jr.: at Grommins Chinese of Giant and we were

 

 

 

727

 

00:33:42,608 --> 00:33:46,704

 

George Stevens, Jr.: showing a film that premiered 65 years

 

 

 

728

 

00:33:46,744 --> 00:33:49,663

 

George Stevens, Jr.: earlier in the same theater, now with a new

 

 

 

729

 

00:33:49,683 --> 00:33:52,424

 

George Stevens, Jr.: audience, and Steven and I to watch this

 

 

 

730

 

00:33:52,444 --> 00:33:56,364

 

George Stevens, Jr.: audience respond on an IMAX screen to this

 

 

 

731

 

00:33:56,384 --> 00:33:59,802

 

George Stevens, Jr.: film was really kind of a proof of that

 

 

 

732

 

00:33:59,822 --> 00:34:00,485

 

George Stevens, Jr.: test of time.

 

 

 

733

 

00:34:00,769 --> 00:34:04,176

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So I like the big screen, but I also see

 

 

 

734

 

00:34:04,939 --> 00:34:07,115

 

George Stevens, Jr.: what streaming is doing and providing

 

 

 

735

 

00:34:07,175 --> 00:34:10,235

 

George Stevens, Jr.: different opportunities for independent

 

 

 

736

 

00:34:10,255 --> 00:34:12,285

 

George Stevens, Jr.: filmmakers and a diversity of filmmakers,

 

 

 

737

 

00:34:13,518 --> 00:34:14,245

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and I think that's very valuable.

 

 

 

738

 

00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:18,141

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So I hope that the big screen will restore

 

 

 

739

 

00:34:18,843 --> 00:34:22,518

 

George Stevens, Jr.: its place in our lives and that we can

 

 

 

740

 

00:34:22,558 --> 00:34:26,755

 

George Stevens, Jr.: continue to have the films made for

 

 

 

741

 

00:34:26,795 --> 00:34:30,493

 

George Stevens, Jr.: streaming and more modest budgets that give

 

 

 

742

 

00:34:30,553 --> 00:34:32,945

 

George Stevens, Jr.: opportunity to new filmmakers.

 

 

 

743

 

00:34:34,292 --> 00:34:36,040

 

Marc Preston: You know, I think there is something about

 

 

 

744

 

00:34:36,161 --> 00:34:38,055

 

Marc Preston: the convenience of being able to watch

 

 

 

745

 

00:34:38,173 --> 00:34:41,538

 

Marc Preston: something at home, the ability to see more

 

 

 

746

 

00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:47,548

 

Marc Preston: films, to expose more people to a film, but

 

 

 

747

 

00:34:47,568 --> 00:34:48,972

 

Marc Preston: there is something about that communal

 

 

 

748

 

00:34:49,033 --> 00:34:51,911

 

Marc Preston: experience about being in a theater, and

 

 

 

749

 

00:34:52,292 --> 00:34:55,050

 

Marc Preston: some movies I think are designed to be seen

 

 

 

750

 

00:34:55,672 --> 00:34:57,608

 

Marc Preston: and appreciated even more on a big screen,

 

 

 

751

 

00:34:57,668 --> 00:35:00,010

 

Marc Preston: like Top Gun I know it's kind of a popcorn

 

 

 

752

 

00:35:00,051 --> 00:35:02,212

 

Marc Preston: film, but anything James Cameron does.

 

 

 

753

 

00:35:02,252 --> 00:35:05,193

 

Marc Preston: You know the Avatar movies, you know seeing

 

 

 

754

 

00:35:05,233 --> 00:35:07,068

 

Marc Preston: them in a theater is.

 

 

 

755

 

00:35:07,229 --> 00:35:09,665

 

Marc Preston: I think it's a very cool experience and

 

 

 

756

 

00:35:09,685 --> 00:35:13,696

 

Marc Preston: hopefully one that holds on for some time.

 

 

 

757

 

00:35:13,785 --> 00:35:16,814

 

Marc Preston: Now, going forward, I'm curious about your

 

 

 

758

 

00:35:16,854 --> 00:35:20,074

 

Marc Preston: opinion about current trends, things that

 

 

 

759

 

00:35:20,154 --> 00:35:22,713

 

Marc Preston: you like or things that maybe you would

 

 

 

760

 

00:35:22,753 --> 00:35:26,869

 

Marc Preston: like to see change, or something that maybe

 

 

 

761

 

00:35:26,889 --> 00:35:29,007

 

Marc Preston: you're not a big fan of when it comes to

 

 

 

762

 

00:35:30,111 --> 00:35:32,430

 

Marc Preston: making films, and things you think maybe

 

 

 

763

 

00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:33,133

 

Marc Preston: need an update.

 

 

 

764

 

00:35:33,626 --> 00:35:35,052

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I'll tell you one, Marc.

 

 

 

765

 

00:35:36,946 --> 00:35:39,573

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I was just saying how many benefits

 

 

 

766

 

00:35:40,545 --> 00:35:45,698

 

George Stevens, Jr.: streaming Netflix and Disney Plus or

 

 

 

767

 

00:35:45,738 --> 00:35:50,266

 

George Stevens, Jr.: whatever they call it it brings, but now

 

 

 

768

 

00:35:50,828 --> 00:35:53,214

 

George Stevens, Jr.: they're talking about putting advertising

 

 

 

769

 

00:35:54,165 --> 00:35:56,653

 

George Stevens, Jr.: into Netflix and Disney Plus.

 

 

 

770

 

00:35:57,625 --> 00:36:00,493

 

George Stevens, Jr.: What I had to struggle against throughout

 

 

 

771

 

00:36:00,553 --> 00:36:04,072

 

George Stevens, Jr.: my career was advertising, the mentality of

 

 

 

772

 

00:36:04,192 --> 00:36:07,552

 

George Stevens, Jr.: advertising that governed the thinking of

 

 

 

773

 

00:36:07,632 --> 00:36:10,329

 

George Stevens, Jr.: commercial television, which was the best

 

 

 

774

 

00:36:10,389 --> 00:36:14,686

 

George Stevens, Jr.: place for me to do certain of my work, and

 

 

 

775

 

00:36:15,107 --> 00:36:18,087

 

George Stevens, Jr.: one of the blessings of streaming is that

 

 

 

776

 

00:36:18,648 --> 00:36:21,195

 

George Stevens, Jr.: filmmakers have been doing wonderful work

 

 

 

777

 

00:36:21,865 --> 00:36:25,374

 

George Stevens, Jr.: without interruption long, sometimes

 

 

 

778

 

00:36:25,815 --> 00:36:29,731

 

George Stevens, Jr.: 10-part dramas, and I think it's really a

 

 

 

779

 

00:36:29,791 --> 00:36:32,871

 

George Stevens, Jr.: danger if we're now gonna start letting the

 

 

 

780

 

00:36:32,972 --> 00:36:36,149

 

George Stevens, Jr.: advertising world control and influence

 

 

 

781

 

00:36:37,493 --> 00:36:38,696

 

George Stevens, Jr.: that form of filmmaking.

 

 

 

782

 

00:36:39,025 --> 00:36:40,750

 

Marc Preston: It does seem to be a more symbiotic or a

 

 

 

783

 

00:36:40,811 --> 00:36:44,011

 

Marc Preston: better relationship to just pay a

 

 

 

784

 

00:36:44,051 --> 00:36:46,450

 

Marc Preston: subscription fee than receive your

 

 

 

785

 

00:36:46,490 --> 00:36:48,806

 

Marc Preston: entertainment, your content, commercial

 

 

 

786

 

00:36:48,867 --> 00:36:49,248

 

Marc Preston: free.

 

 

 

787

 

00:36:49,268 --> 00:36:50,372

 

Marc Preston: That does make a lot of sense.

 

 

 

788

 

00:36:50,705 --> 00:36:52,746

 

George Stevens, Jr.: It took us a long way to get there and I

 

 

 

789

 

00:36:53,248 --> 00:36:54,593

 

George Stevens, Jr.: don't wanna see us turn back.

 

 

 

790

 

00:36:55,005 --> 00:36:55,608

 

Marc Preston: Absolutely.

 

 

 

791

 

00:36:56,425 --> 00:36:59,507

 

Marc Preston: Now talking about your new book, a Place in

 

 

 

792

 

00:36:59,527 --> 00:37:03,551

 

Marc Preston: the Sun, the Memoir, I'm curious what got

 

 

 

793

 

00:37:03,571 --> 00:37:04,654

 

Marc Preston: you to sit down and decide?

 

 

 

794

 

00:37:04,725 --> 00:37:06,412

 

Marc Preston: You know, I wanna write my own book.

 

 

 

795

 

00:37:06,685 --> 00:37:08,932

 

Marc Preston: I wanna put this together and kind of

 

 

 

796

 

00:37:09,012 --> 00:37:12,932

 

Marc Preston: recount stories and kind of put it all out

 

 

 

797

 

00:37:12,992 --> 00:37:14,717

 

Marc Preston: there for people to read.

 

 

 

798

 

00:37:14,865 --> 00:37:17,426

 

Marc Preston: What was the impetus for you deciding to

 

 

 

799

 

00:37:17,567 --> 00:37:18,771

 

Marc Preston: write A Place in the Sun?

 

 

 

800

 

00:37:19,185 --> 00:37:23,516

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I was aware that I lived an exceptional

 

 

 

801

 

00:37:23,597 --> 00:37:25,931

 

George Stevens, Jr.: life in many respects, and with me it was

 

 

 

802

 

00:37:26,893 --> 00:37:29,450

 

George Stevens, Jr.: mainly a question of whether I could be

 

 

 

803

 

00:37:29,511 --> 00:37:33,976

 

George Stevens, Jr.: successful in making it a compelling book

 

 

 

804

 

00:37:34,466 --> 00:37:37,675

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and with stories that interested people.

 

 

 

805

 

00:37:38,405 --> 00:37:39,308

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And so it was.

 

 

 

806

 

00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:45,492

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And writing it, I became aware that I have

 

 

 

807

 

00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:50,071

 

George Stevens, Jr.: lived this blessed life where I've been

 

 

 

808

 

00:37:50,111 --> 00:37:53,206

 

George Stevens, Jr.: involved with so many interesting and

 

 

 

809

 

00:37:53,246 --> 00:37:55,966

 

George Stevens, Jr.: accomplished friends and colleagues, and

 

 

 

810

 

00:37:56,528 --> 00:37:57,431

 

George Stevens, Jr.: the fact that they're from the

 

 

 

811

 

00:37:57,471 --> 00:38:00,330

 

George Stevens, Jr.: entertainment world, from government, from

 

 

 

812

 

00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:02,176

 

George Stevens, Jr.: politics, from sports.

 

 

 

813

 

00:38:04,526 --> 00:38:08,923

 

George Stevens, Jr.: There's a richness that made me wanna tell

 

 

 

814

 

00:38:08,963 --> 00:38:11,109

 

George Stevens, Jr.: these stories, and many of them are

 

 

 

815

 

00:38:11,571 --> 00:38:13,717

 

George Stevens, Jr.: revealing, about very interesting people.

 

 

 

816

 

00:38:15,186 --> 00:38:17,273

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So it's nice to have it between two covers

 

 

 

817

 

00:38:18,126 --> 00:38:18,246

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Now.

 

 

 

818

 

00:38:18,326 --> 00:38:20,032

 

Marc Preston: earlier you had mentioned something about

 

 

 

819

 

00:38:20,473 --> 00:38:23,230

 

Marc Preston: sports writing and being intrigued by

 

 

 

820

 

00:38:24,553 --> 00:38:27,747

 

Marc Preston: following sports and baseball, and

 

 

 

821

 

00:38:27,887 --> 00:38:30,268

 

Marc Preston: naturally I've gotta ask you who is your

 

 

 

822

 

00:38:30,288 --> 00:38:31,071

 

Marc Preston: team growing up?

 

 

 

823

 

00:38:31,306 --> 00:38:33,754

 

Marc Preston: I'm assuming you're a Nationals fan right

 

 

 

824

 

00:38:33,794 --> 00:38:33,954

 

Marc Preston: now.

 

 

 

825

 

00:38:34,426 --> 00:38:38,783

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Well, I grew up on the Hollywood stars in

 

 

 

826

 

00:38:38,823 --> 00:38:40,850

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Los Angeles that became the Brooklyn

 

 

 

827

 

00:38:40,890 --> 00:38:44,680

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Dodgers and, living in Washington, I've had

 

 

 

828

 

00:38:44,861 --> 00:38:46,729

 

George Stevens, Jr.: some very good years with the Nationals.

 

 

 

829

 

00:38:46,809 --> 00:38:51,454

 

George Stevens, Jr.: That seem to have ended, but we won that

 

 

 

830

 

00:38:51,514 --> 00:38:54,089

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Nationals the World Series and that was a

 

 

 

831

 

00:38:54,149 --> 00:38:57,551

 

George Stevens, Jr.: great experience for people who have been

 

 

 

832

 

00:38:57,591 --> 00:38:59,605

 

George Stevens, Jr.: mostly baseball starved in Washington.

 

 

 

833

 

00:38:59,828 --> 00:39:01,968

 

Marc Preston: Well, I'm a Texas Rangers fan, so I'm

 

 

 

834

 

00:39:02,008 --> 00:39:03,774

 

Marc Preston: pretty used to being disappointed.

 

 

 

835

 

00:39:05,889 --> 00:39:09,578

 

Marc Preston: You know, I was curious about what your

 

 

 

836

 

00:39:09,638 --> 00:39:12,893

 

Marc Preston: advice would be To somebody who is looking

 

 

 

837

 

00:39:13,234 --> 00:39:16,268

 

Marc Preston: to become a filmmaker actor or, let's say

 

 

 

838

 

00:39:16,308 --> 00:39:19,851

 

Marc Preston: they already are the piece of advice or

 

 

 

839

 

00:39:19,931 --> 00:39:21,395

 

Marc Preston: guidance that you would offer up.

 

 

 

840

 

00:39:22,825 --> 00:39:24,572

 

Marc Preston: I'm going back to what you mentioned about

 

 

 

841

 

00:39:24,592 --> 00:39:26,505

 

Marc Preston: your father and watching him on a set and

 

 

 

842

 

00:39:26,526 --> 00:39:29,345

 

Marc Preston: the way he interacted with the actors and

 

 

 

843

 

00:39:29,365 --> 00:39:32,508

 

Marc Preston: the way he treated them, and that informed

 

 

 

844

 

00:39:32,548 --> 00:39:35,649

 

Marc Preston: the way you approached interacting with

 

 

 

845

 

00:39:35,769 --> 00:39:36,091

 

Marc Preston: actors.

 

 

 

846

 

00:39:36,805 --> 00:39:38,932

 

Marc Preston: What piece of advice or what pieces of

 

 

 

847

 

00:39:38,993 --> 00:39:43,254

 

Marc Preston: advice would you think are of value to a

 

 

 

848

 

00:39:43,314 --> 00:39:47,452

 

Marc Preston: modern day filmmaker or an actor and how

 

 

 

849

 

00:39:47,492 --> 00:39:49,097

 

Marc Preston: they can best approach their career?

 

 

 

850

 

00:39:49,405 --> 00:39:53,556

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I would say someone who wants to make films,

 

 

 

851

 

00:39:54,425 --> 00:39:57,935

 

George Stevens, Jr.: to look at the great films, the classic

 

 

 

852

 

00:39:57,975 --> 00:40:00,750

 

George Stevens, Jr.: films and also the new films that are

 

 

 

853

 

00:40:02,334 --> 00:40:05,050

 

George Stevens, Jr.: carving new ground, because all of the

 

 

 

854

 

00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:07,748

 

George Stevens, Jr.: lessons for filmmaking, about filmmaking,

 

 

 

855

 

00:40:07,849 --> 00:40:14,117

 

George Stevens, Jr.: are in those films and for both actors and

 

 

 

856

 

00:40:14,157 --> 00:40:14,659

 

George Stevens, Jr.: directors.

 

 

 

857

 

00:40:15,205 --> 00:40:17,445

 

George Stevens, Jr.: You just have to believe in yourself and

 

 

 

858

 

00:40:17,485 --> 00:40:20,068

 

George Stevens, Jr.: keep knocking on doors, because the

 

 

 

859

 

00:40:20,128 --> 00:40:23,165

 

George Stevens, Jr.: resistance to getting in a position to

 

 

 

860

 

00:40:23,246 --> 00:40:26,785

 

George Stevens, Jr.: making films you mentioned in passing that

 

 

 

861

 

00:40:28,430 --> 00:40:32,048

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I had a well-known father and it was much

 

 

 

862

 

00:40:32,128 --> 00:40:34,535

 

George Stevens, Jr.: easier for me to get in to see Jack Webb,

 

 

 

863

 

00:40:34,965 --> 00:40:37,647

 

George Stevens, Jr.: who gave me my opportunity because I was

 

 

 

864

 

00:40:37,708 --> 00:40:38,450

 

George Stevens, Jr.: George Stevens Jr.

 

 

 

865

 

00:40:39,385 --> 00:40:44,351

 

George Stevens, Jr.: But whoever you are, and once I'd had that

 

 

 

866

 

00:40:44,411 --> 00:40:47,531

 

George Stevens, Jr.: opportunity, I was knocking on doors to try

 

 

 

867

 

00:40:47,571 --> 00:40:49,587

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and get the things made that I wanted to

 

 

 

868

 

00:40:49,628 --> 00:40:50,050

 

George Stevens, Jr.: get made.

 

 

 

869

 

00:40:50,685 --> 00:40:53,372

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So believe in yourself and just keep

 

 

 

870

 

00:40:53,733 --> 00:40:57,872

 

George Stevens, Jr.: pushing your ideas and hoping that someday

 

 

 

871

 

00:40:58,313 --> 00:41:01,149

 

George Stevens, Jr.: someone will open their eyes and say, yes,

 

 

 

872

 

00:41:01,229 --> 00:41:03,389

 

George Stevens, Jr.: we want to do that, we're going to get the

 

 

 

873

 

00:41:03,409 --> 00:41:09,725

 

George Stevens, Jr.: things made we're going to be in the film.

 

 

 

874

 

00:41:09,765 --> 00:41:13,494

 

Marc Preston: I'm curious who right now you're enjoying

 

 

 

875

 

00:41:14,356 --> 00:41:17,489

 

Marc Preston: watching actors New actors, established,

 

 

 

876

 

00:41:18,132 --> 00:41:22,072

 

Marc Preston: either one who you'd like to watch on the

 

 

 

877

 

00:41:22,092 --> 00:41:22,574

 

Marc Preston: big screen?

 

 

 

878

 

00:41:25,327 --> 00:41:27,126

 

George Stevens, Jr.: There's so many, but I don't think there's

 

 

 

879

 

00:41:27,186 --> 00:41:31,968

 

George Stevens, Jr.: that handful of stars, and it's interesting

 

 

 

880

 

00:41:31,988 --> 00:41:33,752

 

George Stevens, Jr.: because with so many independent films

 

 

 

881

 

00:41:34,293 --> 00:41:35,175

 

George Stevens, Jr.: there are new people.

 

 

 

882

 

00:41:36,685 --> 00:41:40,633

 

George Stevens, Jr.: There used to be what nine major movie

 

 

 

883

 

00:41:40,653 --> 00:41:42,437

 

George Stevens, Jr.: stars or the ten top movie stars.

 

 

 

884

 

00:41:43,025 --> 00:41:46,371

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Now it's all across the board and lesser

 

 

 

885

 

00:41:46,412 --> 00:41:50,319

 

George Stevens, Jr.: known people are doing great work.

 

 

 

886

 

00:41:50,926 --> 00:41:52,270

 

Marc Preston: Yeah, it's kind of like what you mentioned

 

 

 

887

 

00:41:52,290 --> 00:41:53,754

 

Marc Preston: before with streaming.

 

 

 

888

 

00:41:54,985 --> 00:41:56,309

 

Marc Preston: There are just simply more opportunities

 

 

 

889

 

00:41:56,469 --> 00:42:01,164

 

Marc Preston: for people to get projects out and it's

 

 

 

890

 

00:42:01,505 --> 00:42:03,190

 

Marc Preston: pretty much impossible to see everything

 

 

 

891

 

00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:04,594

 

Marc Preston: that's coming out now.

 

 

 

892

 

00:42:05,005 --> 00:42:08,735

 

Marc Preston: So there are so many great projects and I

 

 

 

893

 

00:42:08,815 --> 00:42:12,765

 

Marc Preston: think that it's not like the days gone by

 

 

 

894

 

00:42:13,086 --> 00:42:15,553

 

Marc Preston: when there were bigger barriers to getting

 

 

 

895

 

00:42:15,594 --> 00:42:16,055

 

Marc Preston: into film.

 

 

 

896

 

00:42:16,405 --> 00:42:18,151

 

Marc Preston: Now there are simply so many venues that

 

 

 

897

 

00:42:18,211 --> 00:42:21,823

 

Marc Preston: it's a little easier for, I think, people

 

 

 

898

 

00:42:21,843 --> 00:42:24,851

 

Marc Preston: to percolate up and show up on screen that

 

 

 

899

 

00:42:24,892 --> 00:42:25,714

 

Marc Preston: really have the talent.

 

 

 

900

 

00:42:26,945 --> 00:42:29,692

 

Marc Preston: Now, as far as your book goes, it's

 

 

 

901

 

00:42:29,732 --> 00:42:30,354

 

Marc Preston: available now.

 

 

 

902

 

00:42:30,635 --> 00:42:32,510

 

Marc Preston: I'm assuming it's already been released.

 

 

 

903

 

00:42:33,345 --> 00:42:35,893

 

Marc Preston: My place in the sun is available right now,

 

 

 

904

 

00:42:35,953 --> 00:42:36,274

 

Marc Preston: correct?

 

 

 

905

 

00:42:36,845 --> 00:42:36,925

 

Marc Preston: In?

 

 

 

906

 

00:42:36,965 --> 00:42:39,871

 

George Stevens, Jr.: bookstores and you can find it on the

 

 

 

907

 

00:42:39,911 --> 00:42:42,977

 

George Stevens, Jr.: internet and we've been having a wonderful

 

 

 

908

 

00:42:43,037 --> 00:42:43,518

 

George Stevens, Jr.: response.

 

 

 

909

 

00:42:44,786 --> 00:42:49,314

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I did an event at Politics and Pros last

 

 

 

910

 

00:42:49,335 --> 00:42:51,238

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Tuesday with Michael Beschloss, the great

 

 

 

911

 

00:42:51,278 --> 00:42:51,839

 

George Stevens, Jr.: historian.

 

 

 

912

 

00:42:52,566 --> 00:42:55,192

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I'm moderating it and Thomas Friedman

 

 

 

913

 

00:42:55,212 --> 00:42:55,693

 

George Stevens, Jr.: interviewed it.

 

 

 

914

 

00:42:56,354 --> 00:42:59,266

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And I'm going to be doing the 92nd Street Y

 

 

 

915

 

00:42:59,667 --> 00:43:02,312

 

George Stevens, Jr.: in New York with Tom Brokaw on June 5th,

 

 

 

916

 

00:43:02,713 --> 00:43:04,997

 

George Stevens, Jr.: which will be both in-person and virtual.

 

 

 

917

 

00:43:05,685 --> 00:43:08,593

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So I'm having a very good time kind of

 

 

 

918

 

00:43:08,633 --> 00:43:12,063

 

George Stevens, Jr.: telling these stories and getting the

 

 

 

919

 

00:43:12,103 --> 00:43:14,690

 

George Stevens, Jr.: reaction from people to this book that I

 

 

 

920

 

00:43:15,111 --> 00:43:16,776

 

George Stevens, Jr.: spent a good deal of time putting together.

 

 

 

921

 

00:43:17,186 --> 00:43:17,727

 

Marc Preston: You know something.

 

 

 

922

 

00:43:18,189 --> 00:43:21,760

 

Marc Preston: I so appreciate you taking time out to chat

 

 

 

923

 

00:43:21,821 --> 00:43:23,726

 

Marc Preston: with me and sharing your stories.

 

 

 

924

 

00:43:25,149 --> 00:43:28,756

 

Marc Preston: And as we wrap up, I always love asking my

 

 

 

925

 

00:43:28,796 --> 00:43:30,907

 

Marc Preston: seven questions, just kind of a little

 

 

 

926

 

00:43:30,987 --> 00:43:33,866

 

Marc Preston: extra get to know you and the first

 

 

 

927

 

00:43:33,926 --> 00:43:36,452

 

Marc Preston: question I always like to ask is what is

 

 

 

928

 

00:43:36,472 --> 00:43:37,855

 

Marc Preston: your favorite comfort food?

 

 

 

929

 

00:43:39,485 --> 00:43:41,870

 

Marc Preston: That thing that you just really enjoy just

 

 

 

930

 

00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:42,992

 

Marc Preston: doesn't have to be good for you.

 

 

 

931

 

00:43:43,594 --> 00:43:45,598

 

Marc Preston: You know what do you like to eat.

 

 

 

932

 

00:43:45,885 --> 00:43:47,612

 

Marc Preston: What is that kind of go-to comfort food for

 

 

 

933

 

00:43:47,652 --> 00:43:47,732

 

Marc Preston: you?

 

 

 

934

 

00:43:48,045 --> 00:43:51,033

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Yes, well, I'm trying to avoid all of that

 

 

 

935

 

00:43:51,113 --> 00:43:51,374

 

George Stevens, Jr.: stuff.

 

 

 

936

 

00:43:52,825 --> 00:43:58,272

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I guess I like a little popcorn with my

 

 

 

937

 

00:43:58,732 --> 00:43:59,233

 

George Stevens, Jr.: streaming.

 

 

 

938

 

00:44:01,436 --> 00:44:03,220

 

Marc Preston: Well, absolutely, that's still pretty

 

 

 

939

 

00:44:03,260 --> 00:44:03,661

 

Marc Preston: healthy.

 

 

 

940

 

00:44:03,822 --> 00:44:06,488

 

Marc Preston: I know that anytime I have any and I'm

 

 

 

941

 

00:44:06,528 --> 00:44:08,920

 

Marc Preston: watching a movie, my golden retriever finds

 

 

 

942

 

00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,987

 

Marc Preston: a way next to me because he always gets at

 

 

 

943

 

00:44:12,027 --> 00:44:12,837

 

Marc Preston: least a few kernels.

 

 

 

944

 

00:44:14,082 --> 00:44:15,850

 

Marc Preston: Now the next question I have for you if

 

 

 

945

 

00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:17,437

 

Marc Preston: you're going to sit down and have a cup of

 

 

 

946

 

00:44:17,477 --> 00:44:19,125

 

Marc Preston: coffee, let's say you've got three people

 

 

 

947

 

00:44:19,185 --> 00:44:21,295

 

Marc Preston: who are going to be sitting down having

 

 

 

948

 

00:44:21,395 --> 00:44:23,980

 

Marc Preston: coffee with you and it can be anybody.

 

 

 

949

 

00:44:24,621 --> 00:44:27,848

 

Marc Preston: Who would you like to sit down and share a

 

 

 

950

 

00:44:27,928 --> 00:44:29,498

 

Marc Preston: conversation with for a few hours?

 

 

 

951

 

00:44:30,020 --> 00:44:31,084

 

Marc Preston: Who are those three people?

 

 

 

952

 

00:44:31,456 --> 00:44:33,623

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Sidney Poitier, Robert Kennedy and Martin

 

 

 

953

 

00:44:33,663 --> 00:44:33,924

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Luther.

 

 

 

954

 

00:44:33,964 --> 00:44:34,265

 

Marc Preston: King.

 

 

 

955

 

00:44:34,656 --> 00:44:35,918

 

Marc Preston: Very good, that sounds like actually a

 

 

 

956

 

00:44:35,999 --> 00:44:38,164

 

Marc Preston: wonderful, wonderful conversation.

 

 

 

957

 

00:44:38,705 --> 00:44:40,737

 

Marc Preston: Now I'm curious with your time in

 

 

 

958

 

00:44:40,798 --> 00:44:43,889

 

Marc Preston: Washington and with John F Kennedy, did you

 

 

 

959

 

00:44:43,929 --> 00:44:46,277

 

Marc Preston: have an opportunity to spend time with or

 

 

 

960

 

00:44:46,498 --> 00:44:47,803

 

Marc Preston: converse with Robert Kennedy?

 

 

 

961

 

00:44:48,055 --> 00:44:50,619

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Yes, I've read a great deal in the book

 

 

 

962

 

00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:55,206

 

George Stevens, Jr.: about Robert Kennedy, who I was close to

 

 

 

963

 

00:44:55,307 --> 00:45:01,561

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and I admired greatly, and I would say that,

 

 

 

964

 

00:45:02,201 --> 00:45:05,506

 

George Stevens, Jr.: having endured the tragedy of President

 

 

 

965

 

00:45:05,546 --> 00:45:10,017

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Kennedy's murder, I think that Bobby's

 

 

 

966

 

00:45:10,137 --> 00:45:13,303

 

George Stevens, Jr.: death was of even more consequence because

 

 

 

967

 

00:45:13,383 --> 00:45:19,019

 

George Stevens, Jr.: we had survived John Kennedy assassination

 

 

 

968

 

00:45:19,481 --> 00:45:21,911

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and I really think Bobby was the person who

 

 

 

969

 

00:45:21,951 --> 00:45:23,376

 

George Stevens, Jr.: could have brought this country together

 

 

 

970

 

00:45:23,436 --> 00:45:29,024

 

George Stevens, Jr.: his comfort with working people, with

 

 

 

971

 

00:45:29,345 --> 00:45:33,296

 

George Stevens, Jr.: minorities, with young people, and he was

 

 

 

972

 

00:45:33,336 --> 00:45:37,729

 

George Stevens, Jr.: just such an accomplished and had great

 

 

 

973

 

00:45:38,411 --> 00:45:39,114

 

George Stevens, Jr.: ideals.

 

 

 

974

 

00:45:40,257 --> 00:45:41,982

 

Marc Preston: You know, that's so wonderful that you have

 

 

 

975

 

00:45:42,022 --> 00:45:44,168

 

Marc Preston: had the opportunity to speak with and

 

 

 

976

 

00:45:44,208 --> 00:45:49,726

 

Marc Preston: interact with a number of just really key

 

 

 

977

 

00:45:50,087 --> 00:45:53,173

 

Marc Preston: cultural political figures in history, and

 

 

 

978

 

00:45:53,394 --> 00:45:55,761

 

Marc Preston: I'm very much looking forward to reading

 

 

 

979

 

00:45:55,781 --> 00:45:59,454

 

Marc Preston: your book, because hearing more of these or

 

 

 

980

 

00:45:59,474 --> 00:46:01,460

 

Marc Preston: reading more about these stories has got to

 

 

 

981

 

00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,102

 

Marc Preston: be a real treat.

 

 

 

982

 

00:46:02,975 --> 00:46:05,647

 

Marc Preston: Now the next question I have for you and

 

 

 

983

 

00:46:05,667 --> 00:46:07,494

 

Marc Preston: this is, of course, interesting because

 

 

 

984

 

00:46:07,514 --> 00:46:09,300

 

Marc Preston: you've had the opportunity to work with

 

 

 

985

 

00:46:09,380 --> 00:46:12,108

 

Marc Preston: such a constellation of people and meet

 

 

 

986

 

00:46:12,148 --> 00:46:16,722

 

Marc Preston: them Coming up who was your celebrity crush?

 

 

 

987

 

00:46:18,235 --> 00:46:23,386

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I was asked this on another discussion and

 

 

 

988

 

00:46:23,887 --> 00:46:28,055

 

George Stevens, Jr.: having seen my first time on a sound stage

 

 

 

989

 

00:46:28,235 --> 00:46:33,163

 

George Stevens, Jr.: was at RKO when I was 12 years old, seeing

 

 

 

990

 

00:46:33,604 --> 00:46:36,549

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Irene Dunn and Carrie Grant getting on a

 

 

 

991

 

00:46:36,609 --> 00:46:38,637

 

George Stevens, Jr.: train in Penny's Aranaid.

 

 

 

992

 

00:46:39,278 --> 00:46:42,944

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So seeing movie stars never kind of gave

 

 

 

993

 

00:46:43,004 --> 00:46:47,257

 

George Stevens, Jr.: that rush to me, even though you know Jimmy

 

 

 

994

 

00:46:47,297 --> 00:46:49,886

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Dean, elizabeth Taylor and all these people

 

 

 

995

 

00:46:49,947 --> 00:46:50,689

 

George Stevens, Jr.: became friends.

 

 

 

996

 

00:46:51,371 --> 00:46:54,678

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And I was asked, you know, and I said I

 

 

 

997

 

00:46:54,929 --> 00:46:58,043

 

George Stevens, Jr.: didn't have a good answer for what movie

 

 

 

998

 

00:46:58,294 --> 00:47:00,547

 

George Stevens, Jr.: star affected me with that tickle on my

 

 

 

999

 

00:47:00,647 --> 00:47:00,848

 

George Stevens, Jr.: neck.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:01,728 --> 00:47:03,691

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And then I came back three minutes later

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:04,331 --> 00:47:07,741

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and I said I will tell you who my person

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:07,761 --> 00:47:10,586

 

George Stevens, Jr.: for that was and it was John Fitzgerald

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:10,627 --> 00:47:10,987

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Kennedy.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:11,648 --> 00:47:14,721

 

George Stevens, Jr.: The first time I saw him in a room up close,

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:15,362 --> 00:47:17,006

 

George Stevens, Jr.: it was the era of black and white

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:17,347 --> 00:47:20,040

 

George Stevens, Jr.: television and to see him come through the

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,393

 

George Stevens, Jr.: door in black tie on a wintry night and he

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:25,574 --> 00:47:28,299

 

George Stevens, Jr.: just walked within three feet of me but we

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:28,339 --> 00:47:29,000

 

George Stevens, Jr.: didn't talk.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:29,801 --> 00:47:34,930

 

George Stevens, Jr.: But that was as charismatic a figure as I

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:35,295 --> 00:47:40,547

 

George Stevens, Jr.: have met and Muhammad Ali is somewhere in

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:40,587 --> 00:47:41,148

 

George Stevens, Jr.: that class.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:41,355 --> 00:47:43,359

 

Marc Preston: You know, that's such a very interesting

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:43,459 --> 00:47:43,840

 

Marc Preston: point.

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:44,862 --> 00:47:47,487

 

Marc Preston: In an era where everything on film, on

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:47,527 --> 00:47:49,797

 

Marc Preston: television, it's going to be black and

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:49,877 --> 00:47:53,185

 

Marc Preston: white, everybody you meet through there,

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:53,285 --> 00:47:55,076

 

Marc Preston: not only in person, but in full living

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:55,157 --> 00:47:59,225

 

Marc Preston: color, that it's like seeing them really

 

 


Speaker:

00:47:59,265 --> 00:48:00,428

 

Marc Preston: for the first time in a way.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:00,628 --> 00:48:03,260

 

Marc Preston: You know, growing up in an era of color

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,047

 

Marc Preston: television and film, you know, didn't it

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:07,087 --> 00:48:09,338

 

Marc Preston: probably is not as poignant of an

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:09,378 --> 00:48:11,623

 

Marc Preston: experience as you probably had a number of

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:11,683 --> 00:48:13,046

 

Marc Preston: times Now.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:13,066 --> 00:48:14,817

 

Marc Preston: The next question is now if you're going to

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:14,857 --> 00:48:16,742

 

Marc Preston: go, let's say, for a full year, to a

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:16,782 --> 00:48:19,536

 

Marc Preston: beautiful exotic island but you don't have

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:19,576 --> 00:48:23,123

 

Marc Preston: internet, no streaming, and you do have a

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:23,163 --> 00:48:25,997

 

Marc Preston: DVD player and a CD player and you can

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:26,037 --> 00:48:28,385

 

Marc Preston: bring one album with you and you can bring

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:28,566 --> 00:48:31,437

 

Marc Preston: one movie on DVD with you, what would that

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:31,597 --> 00:48:33,824

 

Marc Preston: album be and what would that movie be for

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:33,864 --> 00:48:33,965

 

Marc Preston: you?

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:34,636 --> 00:48:36,282

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Well, I'm going to be alone on the island.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:36,342 --> 00:48:39,353

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I think I'll bring the the, the the

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:39,453 --> 00:48:42,739

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Lientine Prices collection of arias,

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,324

 

George Stevens, Jr.: because I think it will be very soothing

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:46,384 --> 00:48:47,005

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and moving.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:49,449 --> 00:48:53,686

 

George Stevens, Jr.: And boy, you put one on the spot with a DVD,

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:53,766 --> 00:48:55,774

 

George Stevens, Jr.: because it is something I want to see over

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:55,814 --> 00:48:56,576

 

George Stevens, Jr.: and over again.

 

 


Speaker:

00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,387

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I'm afraid that that would have to be my

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:01,467 --> 00:49:02,930

 

George Stevens, Jr.: father's film Shane.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:04,334 --> 00:49:06,839

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I can watch it from beginning to end and

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,466

 

George Stevens, Jr.: never, never, not want to go back and see

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:10,507 --> 00:49:10,847

 

George Stevens, Jr.: it again.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:12,438 --> 00:49:14,204

 

Marc Preston: Speaking of those older movies, especially

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:14,244 --> 00:49:16,452

 

Marc Preston: when they made the transition to color,

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:17,075 --> 00:49:17,898

 

Marc Preston: there was something about the

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:17,918 --> 00:49:21,692

 

Marc Preston: cinematography that was unique to the era.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:21,853 --> 00:49:24,099

 

Marc Preston: You know, thinking of films kind of like

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:25,121 --> 00:49:26,705

 

Marc Preston: Lawrence of Arabia, for instance.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:27,126 --> 00:49:28,856

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Just there was something kind of grand and

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:28,997 --> 00:49:32,824

 

George Stevens, Jr.: unique and Lawrence of Arabia would would

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:32,864 --> 00:49:34,488

 

George Stevens, Jr.: be on my list for that island.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:36,297 --> 00:49:37,580

 

Marc Preston: Oh, that would definitely be a good one.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:38,241 --> 00:49:41,828

 

Marc Preston: Now the next question I have for you is if,

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:42,409 --> 00:49:45,768

 

Marc Preston: from the moment you wake up until you put

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:45,808 --> 00:49:47,374

 

Marc Preston: your head down on the pillow at night, if

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:47,394 --> 00:49:49,559

 

Marc Preston: you were to define what a perfect day would

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,846

 

Marc Preston: be for you, you know what are the component

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:52,907 --> 00:49:54,957

 

Marc Preston: parts of that perfect day.

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:56,238 --> 00:49:58,742

 

George Stevens, Jr.: To get up to have something challenging to

 

 


Speaker:

00:49:58,782 --> 00:50:06,237

 

George Stevens, Jr.: do that I'm working on to give my best

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:06,358 --> 00:50:09,727

 

George Stevens, Jr.: effort to that through the day and at four

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:09,767 --> 00:50:13,517

 

George Stevens, Jr.: o'clock go play nine holes of golf,

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:14,980 --> 00:50:18,727

 

George Stevens, Jr.: preferably at the national golf links in

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:18,788 --> 00:50:22,495

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Southampton, and have dinner with my wife

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:22,715 --> 00:50:24,499

 

George Stevens, Jr.: of 57 years.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:25,340 --> 00:50:29,689

 

George Stevens, Jr.: The last line in my book is that I have

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:30,090 --> 00:50:33,636

 

George Stevens, Jr.: lived a glorious life in the company of a

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:33,696 --> 00:50:36,221

 

George Stevens, Jr.: woman who, in the Stevens vernacular,

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:36,963 --> 00:50:39,187

 

George Stevens, Jr.: stands the test of time with grace and

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:39,227 --> 00:50:42,221

 

George Stevens, Jr.: beauty, and having dinner with Liz is my

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:42,342 --> 00:50:43,405

 

George Stevens, Jr.: enduring prize.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:44,167 --> 00:50:44,970

 

Marc Preston: That is wonderful.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:45,211 --> 00:50:45,752

 

Marc Preston: We should all.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:45,773 --> 00:50:47,418

 

Marc Preston: We should all be so lucky.

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:49,163 --> 00:50:51,029

 

Marc Preston: Now the next question you use somewhat

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:51,049 --> 00:50:53,838

 

Marc Preston: alluded to it earlier, but if you were not

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:53,919 --> 00:50:56,370

 

Marc Preston: doing what you're doing for a living and if

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:56,430 --> 00:50:58,999

 

Marc Preston: you didn't have the career you had, what

 

 


Speaker:

00:50:59,681 --> 00:51:03,211

 

Marc Preston: would be the alternate vocation for you?

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:03,331 --> 00:51:04,815

 

Marc Preston: What would be the other thing that you

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:04,856 --> 00:51:06,481

 

Marc Preston: would have liked to have done or that you

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:06,501 --> 00:51:07,524

 

Marc Preston: would like to do for a living?

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:09,358 --> 00:51:09,959

 

George Stevens, Jr.: Well, I don't.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:10,260 --> 00:51:12,164

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I am a person of high aspiration and I

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:12,224 --> 00:51:12,625

 

George Stevens, Jr.: don't know.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:13,286 --> 00:51:15,077

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I certainly know I don't have the talent to

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:15,137 --> 00:51:19,566

 

George Stevens, Jr.: be a tour golfer or an opera singer.

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:20,968 --> 00:51:25,137

 

George Stevens, Jr.: So I think I would disappoint you by saying

 

 


Speaker:

00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,286

 

George Stevens, Jr.: I really think I found my path and I'm very

 

 


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George Stevens, Jr.: fortunate that I ended up on a road where I

 

 


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George Stevens, Jr.: had some capacity to achieve and excel.

 

 


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Marc Preston: I mean, that's the goal and aspiration I

 

 


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Marc Preston: think we all have is to end up doing that

 

 


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Marc Preston: thing, especially if we can do it for a

 

 


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Marc Preston: living that we love and that we have an

 

 


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Marc Preston: aptitude to do.

 

 


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Marc Preston: Now the last question I have for you, going

 

 


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Marc Preston: to make a back to the future reference.

 

 


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Marc Preston: Let's say you jumped into a DeLorean and

 

 


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Marc Preston: you have two minutes with 16 year old you.

 

 


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Marc Preston: You have an opportunity to convey some

 

 


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Marc Preston: advice, some wisdom, guidance to put you

 

 


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Marc Preston: younger, you want a better path or to make

 

 


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Marc Preston: life even a notch better.

 

 


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Marc Preston: What is that bit of advice you would want

 

 


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Marc Preston: to offer to your 16 year old self?

 

 


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George Stevens, Jr.: I would have liked to have been advised in

 

 


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George Stevens, Jr.: a persuasive way to concentrate more and

 

 


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George Stevens, Jr.: study more in school and have more

 

 


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George Stevens, Jr.: curiosity.

 

 


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George Stevens, Jr.: I developed it later, but that would have

 

 


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George Stevens, Jr.: advice would have been very helpful to me

 

 


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George Stevens, Jr.: when I was 14.

 

 


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Marc Preston: You know it's funny.

 

 


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Marc Preston: I think that applies to all of us that

 

 


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Marc Preston: entered into a creative field, or many of

 

 


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Marc Preston: us.

 

 


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Marc Preston: I think the thing that makes us thrive

 

 


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Marc Preston: creatively isn't the thing that necessarily

 

 


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Marc Preston: helps an algebra class.

 

 


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Marc Preston: But, george, thank you so much for taking

 

 


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Marc Preston: time to talk story and this has been a real

 

 


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Marc Preston: pleasure and treat.

 

 


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Marc Preston: Without a doubt, the new book again is my

 

 


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Marc Preston: Place in the Sun and I think everybody

 

 


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Marc Preston: should go pick it up.

 

 


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Marc Preston: I'm looking forward to being able to tap

 

 


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Marc Preston: into more of your history and the

 

 


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Marc Preston: experiences you've had and just generally

 

 


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Marc Preston: kind of walk in your shoes for a brief

 

 


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Marc Preston: moment.

 

 


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Marc Preston: I wish you nothing but the best and best of

 

 


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Marc Preston: luck with the release of your book.

 

 


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Marc Preston: Great Marc, my pleasure.

 

 


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Marc Preston: Well, there you go.

 

 


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00:53:34,421 --> 00:53:37,750

 

Marc Preston: Hollywood legend George Stevens Jr.

 

 


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Marc Preston: What an interesting gentleman to speak with

 

 


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Marc Preston: and his new book, my Place in the Sun, well

 

 


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Marc Preston: worth picking up.

 

 


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Marc Preston: I mean, we had what is this about?

 

 


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Marc Preston: An hour chatting and we only, I feel,

 

 


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Marc Preston: scratched the surface on the stories he has

 

 


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Marc Preston: to tell Again, my Place in the Sun.

 

 


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Marc Preston: I'm going to be reading this because after

 

 


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Marc Preston: today I've got a real appetite for the

 

 


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Marc Preston: stories Mr Stevens has to tell Again.

 

 


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Marc Preston: Thank you, by the way for coming and

 

 


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George Stevens, Jr.

Producer | Writer | Director | Author

The son of a celebrated Hollywood director emerges from his father's shadow to claim his own place as a major force in American culture. George Stevens, Jr. tells an intimate and moving tale of his relationship with his Oscar-winning father and his own exciting career in Hollywood and Washington. Fascinating people, priceless stories and a behind-the-scenes view of some of America's major cultural and political events grace this riveting memoir.

George Stevens, Jr. grew up in Hollywood working on film classics with his father and writes vividly of his experience on the sets of A Place in the Sun (1951), Shane (1953), Giant (1956) and The Diary of Anne Frank (1958). He explores how the magnitude of his father's talent and achievements left him with questions about his own abilities and future. The younger Stevens began to forge his unique career when the legendary broadcaster Edward R. Murrow recruited him to work at the United States Information Agency in John F. Kennedy's Washington. He began his service in government by initiating what has been called the Golden Age of USIA filmmaking. In 1967 he became the founding director of the American Film Institute, placing him at the leading edge of culture and politics, shepherding the rescue of thousands of endangered motion pictures, and training a new generation of filmmakers. He created the Kennedy Center Honors and began making distinguished films and television programs that celebrated American culture and explored social justice. He earned an Oscar and other accolades, including fifteen Emmy… Read More