On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with James Beard and Emmy award-winning television host, chef, and world traveler, Andrew Zimmern. We know Andrew from his work on Food Network, Cooking Channel, Travel Channel and MSNBC shows, Bizarre Foods, The Zimmern List and What’s Eating America. Listen in as we cover the expanse of his career, his early struggles, and his friendly rivalry with Anthony Bourdain. Andrew shares his insights on creating something special in both his personal and professional life, while also taking us on a journey through his much-loved shows and his fascinating travels around the world.
We also explore the rich tapestry of Andrew's family traditions and cultural experiences. From his son's upbringing to his experience with the Sakalava tribe in Africa, his stories are both engaging and insightful. We even get a glimpse of his new show “Family Dinner” on the Magnolia Network, Discovery+ and Max, and Marc’s quest to recreate his grandmother's kugel recipe.
The conversation takes another interesting turn as we discuss the transformative power of travel and the influences it has had on Andrew's life and career. From his privileged upbringing in Manhattan to his journey to homelessness, addiction, and ultimately sobriety, Andrew's story is truly compelling. Finally, we reflect on the tragic death of Anthony Bourdain, discuss the unique culinary delights of New Orleans, and chat about Andrew's new show on the Outdoor Channel, “Wild Game Kitchen”. Tune in for a delicious and insightful conversation with Andrew Zimmern!
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
0:07:39 - Celebrating Family Through Food
0:13:17 - Learning, Transformation, and Travel Experiences
0:21:32 - Exploring Portland, Maine With Andrew’s Dad
0:24:08 - Finding Passion in the Culinary World
0:30:41 - Storytelling and Cultural Exploration
0:31:51 - The Responsibility of the Camera Person
0:41:29 - Reflecting on Anthony Bourdain's Death
0:48:49 - New Orleans Food and Dining Discussion
1:08:59 - Alternative Career Paths and Public Office
1:13:07 - Decline of Jewish Delis in America
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Andrew Zimmern: Oh no, we were with the von Trapp's in
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Andrew Zimmern: learning something.
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Marc Preston: What did your folks do when you were
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Marc Preston: feel like you have your hands off the
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Marc Preston: steering wheel and whatever evolves in your
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Marc Preston: life, you can empathize with other people
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Marc Preston: much easier.
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Marc Preston: Is that accurate in your experience?
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Andrew Zimmern: I actually think it's an understatement.
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Andrew Zimmern: I think you know and Joseph Campbell wrote
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Andrew Zimmern: about this in the hero's journey.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, a lot of people have, and I'm no
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Andrew Zimmern: hero, I am it, you know.
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Andrew Zimmern: But you know Campbell's theory, and I think
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Andrew Zimmern: it's true and has been widely accepted.
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Andrew Zimmern: Now, as when you've been through the fire,
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Andrew Zimmern: you know, when you have had the Phoenix
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Andrew Zimmern: experience and coming back from tragedy and
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Andrew Zimmern: rising from ashes, If you survive, you have
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Andrew Zimmern: a skill set that other people don't have.
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Andrew Zimmern: It's pure and simple, and I've had this,
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Andrew Zimmern: you know.
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Andrew Zimmern: I've studied this now, for you know,
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Andrew Zimmern: anecdotally, for 30 some odd years, and it
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Andrew Zimmern: is, it's universally true.
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Andrew Zimmern: And I think, for you know, some people have
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Andrew Zimmern: to go through what I did.
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Andrew Zimmern: That was a pretty low bottom.
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Andrew Zimmern: Other people don't need to have as low a
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Andrew Zimmern: bottom, but it is a transformative
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Andrew Zimmern: experience and if it doesn't make you more
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Andrew Zimmern: I'll just use your words empathetic with
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Andrew Zimmern: the human condition around the world, more
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Andrew Zimmern: in tune with the trials and tribulations of
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Andrew Zimmern: your fellow man, I think you've wasted
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Andrew Zimmern: life's greatest lesson.
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Marc Preston: Now, you had all those experiences, but
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Marc Preston: travel was something you were doing even
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Marc Preston: when you were younger.
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Marc Preston: I seem to remember an episode of your
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Marc Preston: father.
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Marc Preston: He went somewhere in France, or it could
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Marc Preston: have been in Spain.
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Marc Preston: It was somewhere and, you see, your father
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Marc Preston: would had taken you there when you were
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Marc Preston: younger and, and I believe you'd even
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Marc Preston: brought him back, if I'm not mistaken on my
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Marc Preston: memory.
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Andrew Zimmern: you're correct that, no, no, no, you're
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Andrew Zimmern: absolutely correct and you know I
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Andrew Zimmern: referenced this a lot.
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Andrew Zimmern: I was lucky enough to travel around the
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Andrew Zimmern: world several times with my dad.
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Andrew Zimmern: He was one of the people responsible for
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Andrew Zimmern: running an international you know
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Andrew Zimmern: advertising agency and we traveled a lot
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Andrew Zimmern: and he loved to travel, to eat and eat to
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Andrew Zimmern: travel.
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Andrew Zimmern: So even when we weren't working although I
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Andrew Zimmern: went on a lot of work trips with him, it
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Andrew Zimmern: was, you know we also went on a lot of fun
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Andrew Zimmern: trips as well.
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Andrew Zimmern: Every year we love to ski, so we would go
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Andrew Zimmern: every year to Europe, ski somewhere for a
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Andrew Zimmern: week or 10 days, then go visit a city for
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Andrew Zimmern: four or five days.
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Andrew Zimmern: So, and yes, very famously, as a five year
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Andrew Zimmern: old, I've sat in you know the place for all
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Andrew Zimmern: the seafood trading where the boats came in
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Andrew Zimmern: in Paris, on the river, you know, picking
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Andrew Zimmern: big or no and drinking pasties.
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Andrew Zimmern: At eight or nine years old, while my dad
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Andrew Zimmern: was doing a, having a business dinner three
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Andrew Zimmern: tables over, reading my book and not
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Andrew Zimmern: understanding why I was so flushed and
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Andrew Zimmern: giddy, I sat with him in a humble taverna
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Andrew Zimmern: outside of Valladolos Cayetos in Spain
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Andrew Zimmern: where, ironically, franco is buried now,
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Andrew Zimmern: but this restaurant under the Roman
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Andrew Zimmern: Aqueduct there, and you know, they walk up
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Andrew Zimmern: to you and they basically ask you lamb or
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Andrew Zimmern: pig, and you pick one and then all the
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Andrew Zimmern: other courses come before it, but at the
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Andrew Zimmern: end out comes a newborn lamb or pig, piglet
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Andrew Zimmern: and cooked, and you eat the whole thing.
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Andrew Zimmern: That's your portion is this small roasted
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Andrew Zimmern: animal.
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Andrew Zimmern: And what preceded it were Angulas, these
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Andrew Zimmern: tiny little Elvers, baby eels that swim
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Andrew Zimmern: from the Sargasso Sea up into the rivers
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Andrew Zimmern: where they will grow and become very large
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Andrew Zimmern: freshwater eels.
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Andrew Zimmern: And you know, this was the experience of my
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Andrew Zimmern: childhood.
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Andrew Zimmern: My father gave that to me on trip after
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Andrew Zimmern: trip after trip after trip.
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Andrew Zimmern: So it's no wonder why I eventually got into
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Andrew Zimmern: doing what I do, because I'm just a paler
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Andrew Zimmern: version of him.
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Andrew Zimmern: And yes, you are.
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Andrew Zimmern: You are also correct, we at one point.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, when you start in television you
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Andrew Zimmern: don't call any shots at all, you just say
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Andrew Zimmern: yes to everything and show up, and then, if
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Andrew Zimmern: the show is successful, it all kind of
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Andrew Zimmern: flips around, everyone's asking you, and I
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Andrew Zimmern: think it was season two or three.
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Andrew Zimmern: I told the producers we're going to do a
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Andrew Zimmern: show in Portland, maine, and we're going to
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Andrew Zimmern: do it with my dad and let him show me his
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Andrew Zimmern: town that he was living in at the at the
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Andrew Zimmern: time and what was that we're from?
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Andrew Zimmern: or that's where he, no he spent the last 12
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Andrew Zimmern: years of his life there.
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Andrew Zimmern: He wanted to move.
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Andrew Zimmern: He was born in Bred, new York City in the
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Andrew Zimmern: late 40s, got a house out in Long Island so
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Andrew Zimmern: he had a summer place out there and then it
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Andrew Zimmern: just became too crowded for him.
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Andrew Zimmern: So in his 70s, you know, he and his partner
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Andrew Zimmern: moved up to Portland, maine, and lived
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Andrew Zimmern: there for 10, 12 years before both of them
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Andrew Zimmern: passed.
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Andrew Zimmern: And it was an amazing time to actually have
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Andrew Zimmern: a show where I got to shoot with him.
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Andrew Zimmern: And at the very end we're at this big party
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Andrew Zimmern: tasting a whole bunch of local strange
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Andrew Zimmern: things that we shot on.
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Andrew Zimmern: A friend of his friend of his has an island
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Andrew Zimmern: there.
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Andrew Zimmern: It sounds very bougie, but you know they're
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Andrew Zimmern: in Maine.
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Andrew Zimmern: There's a lot of little tiny islands and
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Andrew Zimmern: they're passed from family to family.
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Andrew Zimmern: And he knew someone who had a small humble
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Andrew Zimmern: place in the Bay and we shot there and I
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Andrew Zimmern: got my son in the show.
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Andrew Zimmern: So at one point my son, my father and I are
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Andrew Zimmern: all eating and I remember that vividly
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Andrew Zimmern: because I mean, if I got hit by a bus
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Andrew Zimmern: tomorrow, I've immortalized the three of us
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Andrew Zimmern: together chowing down.
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Andrew Zimmern: So I'm pretty happy with that.
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Marc Preston: You know, it kind of brings it back to what
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Marc Preston: you were saying about your Magnolia Channel
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Marc Preston: show.
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Marc Preston: It's it's like you can do all these really
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Marc Preston: wonderful, sometimes extravagant, or really
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Marc Preston: amazing, amazing opportunities.
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Marc Preston: But what re in my, my youngest daughter
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Marc Preston: gets so mad at me because I'm always taking
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Marc Preston: pictures like daddy, really, please, just
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Marc Preston: the one teenager on earth that doesn't post
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Marc Preston: to Instagram.
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Marc Preston: But anyway, the I'm like, I'm like I want
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Marc Preston: this.
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Marc Preston: You know, this is important to me.
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Marc Preston: You know we were on a cruise a few weeks
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Marc Preston: ago.
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Marc Preston: She gave me a little more latitude.
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Marc Preston: I was allowed to take more pictures, you
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Marc Preston: know.
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Marc Preston: But you know, getting the multi generation,
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Marc Preston: the family, together there.
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Marc Preston: Were you noticing that your son was into it,
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Marc Preston: or is he kind of like, oh God, here's dad
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Marc Preston: doing his?
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Andrew Zimmern: thing again.
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Andrew Zimmern: Three.
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, he was like three or four.
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Andrew Zimmern: He loved being in the show when he was
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Andrew Zimmern: little and I think if we tried today he
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Andrew Zimmern: would.
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Andrew Zimmern: He would not be.
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Andrew Zimmern: I said he's 1717.
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Marc Preston: So I got one of those.
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Marc Preston: Also just started his freshman year at
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Marc Preston: Loyola when you were kind of coming around
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Marc Preston: and and you're in Minnesota, you're hitting
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Marc Preston: the reset button.
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Marc Preston: What pulled you into the culinary world?
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Marc Preston: What?
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Marc Preston: What was the genesis of?
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Marc Preston: I mean, was that even your original plan
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Marc Preston: when you're going to college?
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, it had been.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, I went to college because my
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Andrew Zimmern: father said, well, I'll back up.
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Andrew Zimmern: When I was four, I cooked with my
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Andrew Zimmern: grandmother as a young child, with my mom
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Andrew Zimmern: and dad as an older child, and I had an
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Andrew Zimmern: aptitude for it and, you know, my dad
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Andrew Zimmern: taught me what to do.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know that no one called it foraging you.
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Andrew Zimmern: Just, you know it was the 60s.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know you threw a line in the water and
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Andrew Zimmern: caught a striped bass.
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Andrew Zimmern: You went down to the jetty and pulled
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Andrew Zimmern: muscles.
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Andrew Zimmern: You, you raked clams on a cloudy morning.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, we, we, I mean, this was what we
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Andrew Zimmern: did in the summertime.
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Andrew Zimmern: And so I learned how to do and loved food,
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Andrew Zimmern: so that when my father said, you know, when
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Andrew Zimmern: the spring were preceding my 14th birthday,
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Andrew Zimmern: which is in the summer, he said I hope, you
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Andrew Zimmern: know, there's no more allowance.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know what are you going to do for a
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Andrew Zimmern: summer job?
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Andrew Zimmern: And I said work in restaurants.
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Andrew Zimmern: I knew right away what I wanted to do and
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Andrew Zimmern: all my other friends were working at the
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Andrew Zimmern: landscape company or at the gas station or
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Andrew Zimmern: at the superMarcet, and I worked in
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Andrew Zimmern: restaurants.
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Andrew Zimmern: And we were lucky.
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Andrew Zimmern: We had a friend who owned a seafood
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Andrew Zimmern: restaurant who was willing to hire me and
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Andrew Zimmern: that's where I went.
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Andrew Zimmern: It was called the quiet clam on Montauk
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Andrew Zimmern: Highway, just as you entered the village of
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Andrew Zimmern: East Hampton and I worked there summers in
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Andrew Zimmern: high school and begged my parents to work
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Andrew Zimmern: odd nights during the school year in New
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Andrew Zimmern: York to be in restaurants and they let me
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Andrew Zimmern: do that.
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Andrew Zimmern: And so the dye was I knew when I was six
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Andrew Zimmern: years old I wanted to work in food.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, that was accepted by my family.
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Marc Preston: But how lucky, how lucky are you, though,
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Marc Preston: that that because I had the similar
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Marc Preston: experience.
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Marc Preston: I remember going I want to do this thing.
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Marc Preston: For me it was radio or acting or you know,
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Marc Preston: but I knew every time I tried to push and
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Marc Preston: go some other direction.
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Marc Preston: I went to a really good high school and
689
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Marc Preston: maybe medicine.
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Marc Preston: You know Jewish play.
691
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Marc Preston: You know be a good shot, be a Jewish doctor.
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Marc Preston: You know, I was like it just didn't light
693
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Marc Preston: my fire.
694
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Marc Preston: I just knew and I think I consider anybody
695
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Marc Preston: that's got that it can be a bumpy road, but
696
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Marc Preston: it's it's.
697
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Marc Preston: It's really lucky when you can bring that
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Marc Preston: to fruition.
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Andrew Zimmern: New, always knew what I wanted to do and
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Andrew Zimmern: you know, my father encouraged it in a
701
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Andrew Zimmern: sense, but he said don't pass up college.
702
00:26:38,602 --> 00:26:40,766
Andrew Zimmern: He said, even if you want to be the, you
703
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Andrew Zimmern: know the own restaurants, or be a chef or
704
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Andrew Zimmern: whatever you want to do, learning to read,
705
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Andrew Zimmern: write and think critically at a higher
706
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Andrew Zimmern: level is really important.
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Andrew Zimmern: And so I went to.
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Andrew Zimmern: I went to college and he was right because
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Andrew Zimmern: ultimately once I mean I wasted a lot of my
710
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Andrew Zimmern: time in college but ultimately my my
711
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Andrew Zimmern: storytelling capability, my style of
712
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Andrew Zimmern: storytelling, I learned studying art
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Andrew Zimmern: history at Vaster College.
714
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Andrew Zimmern: From the first day of art history 101, when
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Andrew Zimmern: Dr Susan Koretzki put the first slide up of
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Andrew Zimmern: the first class of my freshman year, I
717
00:27:31,814 --> 00:27:34,019
Andrew Zimmern: learned a way of deciphering the world.
718
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Andrew Zimmern: She put up a painting Northern Renaissance,
719
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Andrew Zimmern: late 16th century and she asked everyone in
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Andrew Zimmern: the class to write down what they saw in
721
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Andrew Zimmern: the painting and what it meant.
722
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Andrew Zimmern: And everyone wrote down chair, table, dog,
723
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Andrew Zimmern: bowl of fruit, window, hat, scarf, dress,
724
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Andrew Zimmern: necklace.
725
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Andrew Zimmern: And then she asked for everyone to read
726
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Andrew Zimmern: their list, three or four.
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Andrew Zimmern: Everyone had the same thing and you could
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Andrew Zimmern: tell halfway through.
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Andrew Zimmern: This was her class one slide, one setup for
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Andrew Zimmern: the year.
731
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Andrew Zimmern: And she then stepped back and spent a half
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Andrew Zimmern: an hour telling us everything about late to
733
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Andrew Zimmern: 16th century Flemish life there.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, no one had noticed that in the
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Andrew Zimmern: fruit bowl was a banana.
736
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Andrew Zimmern: But bananas don't grow in what is now
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Andrew Zimmern: Holland, so it had to have come from
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Andrew Zimmern: somewhere else, right?
739
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Andrew Zimmern: And so it indicated the wealth of the
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Andrew Zimmern: family.
741
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Andrew Zimmern: And she just went on and on and on Sherlock
742
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Andrew Zimmern: Holmes.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, it was like a locked room.
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Marc Preston: I was literally about to say that.
745
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Marc Preston: Yeah.
746
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, you know, it's like Hercules Poirot
747
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Andrew Zimmern: couldn't have done a better job.
748
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Andrew Zimmern: And I found myself 45, 40 years later, 40
749
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Andrew Zimmern: years later, no less, 35 years, whatever.
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Andrew Zimmern: I'm in a jungle in Nicaragua.
751
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Andrew Zimmern: I'm shooting the second season of Bizarre
752
00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:03,926
Andrew Zimmern: Foods and I'm in a jungle Marcet and
753
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Andrew Zimmern: someone puts a bowl of very rustic chanfina,
754
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Andrew Zimmern: which is a chopped stew made of organ meat,
755
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Andrew Zimmern: in my hands.
756
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Andrew Zimmern: And we're in a jungle, so I know that it's
757
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Andrew Zimmern: bush meat.
758
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Andrew Zimmern: It's not goat or chicken or whatever.
759
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Andrew Zimmern: It's made with animals that live in the
760
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Andrew Zimmern: forest.
761
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Andrew Zimmern: And these jungle Marcets spring up once a
762
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Andrew Zimmern: week where vendors are bringing all their
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Andrew Zimmern: wares or tribal people convene, and once a
764
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Andrew Zimmern: week or once every two weeks, people can
765
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Andrew Zimmern: trade, exchange news of the day, and
766
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Andrew Zimmern: there's always people cooking so that folks
767
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Andrew Zimmern: can buy food.
768
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Andrew Zimmern: And I started very naturally telling it was
769
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Andrew Zimmern: a real turning point for me in my career.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, I'm not saying that I sucked the
771
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Andrew Zimmern: first year, but I was nowhere near the
772
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Andrew Zimmern: storyteller I was prior to my experience
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Andrew Zimmern: with that bowl of chanfina that I am now.
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Marc Preston: Well, of course, if you think you're just
775
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Marc Preston: as good now as you were back then, or you
776
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Marc Preston: haven't grown at all, so now you can
777
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Marc Preston: actually recognize the growth, that's a
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Marc Preston: good thing.
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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, and you see, I held up the soup and I
780
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Andrew Zimmern: said if you look at the soup, you can tell
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Andrew Zimmern: everything about the people here buy it.
782
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Andrew Zimmern: And I started to do what Dr Koretsky did in
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Andrew Zimmern: that art history class long ago, which was
784
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Andrew Zimmern: tell my audience, look into the camera and
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Andrew Zimmern: tell them everything about this people and
786
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Andrew Zimmern: this time and this place in this country
787
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Andrew Zimmern: through this bowl of stew.
788
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Andrew Zimmern: And it was a real turning point for me and
789
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Andrew Zimmern: it still is.
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Andrew Zimmern: My favorite form of storytelling is being
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Andrew Zimmern: able to, even if it's a cheeseburger at a
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Andrew Zimmern: local shop, you can tell a lot about a
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Andrew Zimmern: place and a culture.
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Andrew Zimmern: I have famously said this.
795
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Andrew Zimmern: It's been quoted a lot.
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Andrew Zimmern: I love museums, but I can learn more about
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Andrew Zimmern: a country by going to a local Marcet and
798
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Andrew Zimmern: eating and talking to people that I can by
799
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Andrew Zimmern: going into their local museum.
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Andrew Zimmern: That's for sure.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, one of the things I think you're a
802
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Marc Preston: Jedi knight doing which is, I mean, for
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Marc Preston: your vocation is essential is communicating
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Marc Preston: the moment, what it's like aesthetically,
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Marc Preston: what it tastes like.
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Marc Preston: I remember you got the little shelfish, the
807
00:31:20,573 --> 00:31:22,889
Marc Preston: OPI, I think, kind of like a salty
808
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Marc Preston: something, gummy bear.
809
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Marc Preston: How have you described it?
810
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Marc Preston: I'm like, OK, I get a feeling for what?
811
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Marc Preston: That it's the most random description.
812
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Marc Preston: But I think what you do wonderfully is
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Marc Preston: really transport people and I think that
814
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Marc Preston: kind of going back to where you're
815
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Marc Preston: discussing before, is how much is it moving
816
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Marc Preston: the needle culturally on, kind of opening
817
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Marc Preston: people up to other people and ideas?
818
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Marc Preston: I think it certainly helps.
819
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Marc Preston: I think being able to be a very capable
820
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Marc Preston: storyteller is your part and parcel.
821
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Marc Preston: That's what you do.
822
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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, but a lot of people do.
823
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Andrew Zimmern: This is what's fascinating to me.
824
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Andrew Zimmern: So many other folks forget that there is
825
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Andrew Zimmern: someone on the other side of the camera
826
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Andrew Zimmern: watching six months later and they're not
827
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Andrew Zimmern: going to hear the rain in the distance or
828
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Andrew Zimmern: smell the loamy, earthy, mildewy smell of
829
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Andrew Zimmern: that jungle.
830
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Andrew Zimmern: They're not going to taste the food,
831
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Andrew Zimmern: they're not going to see the smile on every
832
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Andrew Zimmern: person who's in there.
833
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Andrew Zimmern: So you have to, it's your responsibility to
834
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Andrew Zimmern: tell them You're the avatar for the
835
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Andrew Zimmern: audience.
836
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Andrew Zimmern: I think a lot of people forget that.
837
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Andrew Zimmern: I really do and, by the way, I'm lucky to
838
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Andrew Zimmern: have had amazing mentors and great teachers
839
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Andrew Zimmern: and folks who told me to pay attention to
840
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Andrew Zimmern: that stuff.
841
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Andrew Zimmern: And, yes, is a certain part of it Dye's
842
00:32:45,806 --> 00:32:47,472
Andrew Zimmern: already cast by the time they picked up the
843
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Andrew Zimmern: first camera, because of what happened to
844
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Andrew Zimmern: be the first 33, 34 years of my life.
845
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Andrew Zimmern: Yes, to a certain degree, but some of it's
846
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Andrew Zimmern: actually learned.
847
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Andrew Zimmern: Some of it is paying attention, having
848
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Andrew Zimmern: someone remind you that not only is there
849
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Andrew Zimmern: someone who one day and it could be the
850
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Andrew Zimmern: same viewer.
851
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Andrew Zimmern: So one day, Marc, you're coming to the show
852
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Andrew Zimmern: I make, whatever it is.
853
00:33:13,965 --> 00:33:15,873
Andrew Zimmern: You just had a tough day and you pop a beer
854
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Andrew Zimmern: and you just want to sit down and be
855
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Andrew Zimmern: entertained.
856
00:33:18,065 --> 00:33:20,431
Andrew Zimmern: And then some days you're eager to like,
857
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Andrew Zimmern: hey, whoever's in the house, come take a
858
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Andrew Zimmern: look at this.
859
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Andrew Zimmern: And you sit down and you learn something,
860
00:33:26,845 --> 00:33:28,732
Andrew Zimmern: because it's just really cool and
861
00:33:28,812 --> 00:33:30,872
Andrew Zimmern: fascinating, or maybe just beautiful.
862
00:33:30,985 --> 00:33:32,933
Andrew Zimmern: And you learn a lot about the Faroe Islands,
863
00:33:32,945 --> 00:33:35,013
Andrew Zimmern: because I'm about to die in freezing water
864
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Andrew Zimmern: while Orca's circle our Zodiac boat.
865
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Andrew Zimmern: But no matter what it is, you have to be
866
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Andrew Zimmern: there for all people all the time and not
867
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Andrew Zimmern: ostracize members of your audience.
868
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Marc Preston: Oh, certainly, but I think, with the way
869
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Marc Preston: people come, like you said, the guys just
870
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Marc Preston: maybe pop in a beer, maybe another day
871
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Marc Preston: watch the same episode, maybe he's more
872
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Marc Preston: actively watching it and he's going to pick
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Marc Preston: up on something I know for myself.
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Marc Preston: I think and I don't want to conflate, I
875
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Marc Preston: know I mentioned Anthony Bourdain before, I
876
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Marc Preston: don't want to conflate y'all have two very
877
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Marc Preston: unique voices, but there are so many
878
00:34:09,831 --> 00:34:12,168
Marc Preston: parallels that I think had y'all not had
879
00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:14,647
Marc Preston: the life y'all had, I don't think y'all
880
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Marc Preston: would be as effective and as memorable.
881
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Marc Preston: And I think that you're making all these
882
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Marc Preston: jewel boxes of experiences for people, for
883
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Marc Preston: even the future.
884
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Marc Preston: And I just I always sat down as, like
885
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Marc Preston: thinking I truly enjoy both these guys for
886
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Marc Preston: their own special sauce.
887
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Marc Preston: You know what you have to offer, but there
888
00:34:34,308 --> 00:34:36,728
Marc Preston: are beautiful, wonderful parallels in what
889
00:34:36,748 --> 00:34:37,591
Marc Preston: you're kind of like.
890
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Marc Preston: Did you ever ever speak with Anthony
891
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Marc Preston: Bourdain and go, ok, how are we going to
892
00:34:41,409 --> 00:34:42,393
Marc Preston: differentiate our shows?
893
00:34:42,465 --> 00:34:44,492
Marc Preston: We're out there sort of doing something
894
00:34:44,552 --> 00:34:46,669
Marc Preston: similar and he gives you these wonderful
895
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Marc Preston: gentle ribs going OK, and then I show you
896
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Marc Preston: he's like god, this is something more for
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Marc Preston: Zimmern.
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Marc Preston: You know, you can tell Kind of Kind of.
899
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Andrew Zimmern: It was actually even better than that.
900
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, we both grew up in New York.
901
00:34:58,825 --> 00:35:03,510
Andrew Zimmern: We both were smartasses, we both had, you
902
00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:07,057
Andrew Zimmern: know, different types of addiction issues.
903
00:35:08,365 --> 00:35:10,230
Andrew Zimmern: We both worked in New York at the same time
904
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Andrew Zimmern: as Line Cooks.
905
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Andrew Zimmern: We had both gone to Vassar College.
906
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Andrew Zimmern: He was there a couple years.
907
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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, he was there a couple years before I
908
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Andrew Zimmern: was Well.
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Marc Preston: I know even his father.
910
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Marc Preston: I remember he used to travel with his
911
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Marc Preston: family when he was younger, you know.
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Announcer: I know there was this that's right.
913
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Marc Preston: So please don't.
914
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Marc Preston: I'm certainly not saying y'all are just
915
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Marc Preston: alike.
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Marc Preston: I'm not saying that, no, we're very
917
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Marc Preston: different.
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Andrew Zimmern: We're very, very different.
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Andrew Zimmern: This is what was fantastic.
920
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Andrew Zimmern: We became friends, but he loved I mean, I
921
00:35:36,329 --> 00:35:39,486
Andrew Zimmern: think he took more pleasure giving me a ton
922
00:35:39,526 --> 00:35:40,449
Andrew Zimmern: of shit about stuff.
923
00:35:42,325 --> 00:35:44,733
Andrew Zimmern: That was his favorite thing because, as he
924
00:35:44,873 --> 00:35:47,429
Andrew Zimmern: often would say, he said, you know, we go,
925
00:35:48,191 --> 00:35:50,797
Andrew Zimmern: you know we both go to the Congo.
926
00:35:51,625 --> 00:35:55,875
Andrew Zimmern: We both eat the same Warthog meal with two
927
00:35:55,915 --> 00:35:56,757
Andrew Zimmern: different tribes.
928
00:35:57,145 --> 00:35:58,810
Andrew Zimmern: I don't know how he does it, because at
929
00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:02,908
Andrew Zimmern: least I get to drink Right, the implication
930
00:36:02,948 --> 00:36:04,785
Andrew Zimmern: being it's easier to eat that stuff if
931
00:36:04,825 --> 00:36:05,548
Andrew Zimmern: you've had a few.
932
00:36:07,986 --> 00:36:09,430
Andrew Zimmern: And you know.
933
00:36:09,471 --> 00:36:11,787
Andrew Zimmern: We explored the world telling our stories
934
00:36:11,807 --> 00:36:17,528
Andrew Zimmern: in much different styles, but we basically
935
00:36:17,568 --> 00:36:21,390
Andrew Zimmern: did the same job and he would sometimes
936
00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:25,645
Andrew Zimmern: call me or send me a text or an email with
937
00:36:25,685 --> 00:36:28,956
Andrew Zimmern: like, yep, I'm going to such and such,
938
00:36:29,025 --> 00:36:30,550
Andrew Zimmern: because he knew that we were trying to get
939
00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:33,967
Andrew Zimmern: in to that country too, and he took
940
00:36:34,308 --> 00:36:38,169
Andrew Zimmern: tremendous pleasure it actually became an
941
00:36:38,269 --> 00:36:41,891
Andrew Zimmern: epic part of his story in landing the
942
00:36:41,972 --> 00:36:44,966
Andrew Zimmern: Beirut show while we were trying to, and I
943
00:36:45,027 --> 00:36:47,374
Andrew Zimmern: took great pleasure in beating him to Cuba
944
00:36:48,006 --> 00:36:51,310
Andrew Zimmern: and to Syria, and he took great pleasure in
945
00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:55,731
Andrew Zimmern: beating me into Iran, and then it closed
946
00:36:55,771 --> 00:36:56,052
Andrew Zimmern: down.
947
00:36:56,185 --> 00:36:57,550
Andrew Zimmern: We were actually on our way.
948
00:36:58,225 --> 00:36:59,990
Andrew Zimmern: We're using the same fixer there, jason
949
00:37:00,031 --> 00:37:02,367
Andrew Zimmern: Rezaian, who is now with the Washington
950
00:37:02,428 --> 00:37:06,430
Andrew Zimmern: Post, and three weeks before we were
951
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:11,447
Andrew Zimmern: leaving for Tehran, the country closed to
952
00:37:11,468 --> 00:37:16,408
Andrew Zimmern: Americans and Jason was imprisoned, so we
953
00:37:16,449 --> 00:37:17,774
Andrew Zimmern: had a lot to talk about.
954
00:37:17,825 --> 00:37:20,854
Andrew Zimmern: Then we were both parents of kids the same
955
00:37:21,094 --> 00:37:23,169
Andrew Zimmern: age who traveled and never saw our kids.
956
00:37:25,105 --> 00:37:26,852
Andrew Zimmern: We both had experienced divorce.
957
00:37:27,005 --> 00:37:28,952
Andrew Zimmern: We both had experienced so many of the same
958
00:37:29,032 --> 00:37:29,333
Andrew Zimmern: things.
959
00:37:29,845 --> 00:37:32,755
Andrew Zimmern: So as the years went by, we became closer.
960
00:37:32,965 --> 00:37:35,653
Andrew Zimmern: He was an amazing person, the most
961
00:37:35,673 --> 00:37:37,367
Andrew Zimmern: charismatic human being I've ever met.
962
00:37:38,165 --> 00:37:39,350
Marc Preston: I think that the things we talk about
963
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:41,268
Marc Preston: storytelling and I always kind of reference
964
00:37:41,309 --> 00:37:42,826
Marc Preston: him as sort of like one of those guys would
965
00:37:42,846 --> 00:37:44,728
Marc Preston: be a big brother, one guy it's always
966
00:37:44,748 --> 00:37:46,354
Marc Preston: trying to there's wisdom.
967
00:37:46,665 --> 00:37:48,812
Marc Preston: There is that kind of like storytelling
968
00:37:48,912 --> 00:37:49,695
Marc Preston: referencing books.
969
00:37:49,845 --> 00:37:52,669
Marc Preston: I've never read With you.
970
00:37:52,689 --> 00:37:54,595
Marc Preston: There's this infectious enthusiasm.
971
00:37:55,267 --> 00:37:56,691
Marc Preston: It's a definitely have your own brand,
972
00:37:56,752 --> 00:37:58,909
Marc Preston: without a doubt, but I found so many
973
00:37:58,989 --> 00:38:00,869
Marc Preston: parallels and I think that your shows and
974
00:38:00,889 --> 00:38:03,087
Marc Preston: this is not just, in fact, I know your
975
00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:06,090
Marc Preston: shows are important Because if somebody
976
00:38:06,110 --> 00:38:09,167
Marc Preston: sits down and watches it and goes, oh yeah,
977
00:38:09,207 --> 00:38:10,753
Marc Preston: the food is the common denominator, no
978
00:38:10,793 --> 00:38:13,829
Marc Preston: matter what the culture and the irony is.
979
00:38:13,849 --> 00:38:17,408
Marc Preston: You've done US-based shows, but you've been
980
00:38:17,428 --> 00:38:18,706
Marc Preston: all over the world, but I really think
981
00:38:18,787 --> 00:38:22,846
Marc Preston: right now doing the family dinner idea, I
982
00:38:22,906 --> 00:38:24,031
Marc Preston: think that people watch that.
983
00:38:24,105 --> 00:38:25,801
Marc Preston: I think there needs to be a lot more of
984
00:38:25,841 --> 00:38:27,149
Marc Preston: that right now, at least in the US.
985
00:38:28,166 --> 00:38:29,510
Andrew Zimmern: I agree 100%.
986
00:38:31,006 --> 00:38:32,129
Andrew Zimmern: We've never been.
987
00:38:33,191 --> 00:38:36,448
Andrew Zimmern: I don't hide my age at all, I'm 61.
988
00:38:37,726 --> 00:38:40,395
Andrew Zimmern: And there's never been a time in my life
989
00:38:40,465 --> 00:38:42,612
Andrew Zimmern: where I've been more scared about the
990
00:38:42,672 --> 00:38:44,808
Andrew Zimmern: divisive nature of our culture, our
991
00:38:44,888 --> 00:38:48,206
Andrew Zimmern: politics, every factor of American life, or
992
00:38:48,246 --> 00:38:50,113
Andrew Zimmern: the divide between haves and have nots.
993
00:38:50,165 --> 00:38:52,605
Andrew Zimmern: I mean, it's just division and divide, or
994
00:38:52,646 --> 00:38:54,573
Andrew Zimmern: words I could use so much.
995
00:38:54,625 --> 00:38:58,386
Andrew Zimmern: So anything that I can do, I think it's my
996
00:38:58,446 --> 00:38:59,751
Andrew Zimmern: responsibility in a sense.
997
00:39:00,526 --> 00:39:02,446
Andrew Zimmern: When Magnolia came to us and said we want
998
00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:04,493
Andrew Zimmern: an intuitive content show.
999
00:39:04,533 --> 00:39:06,269
Andrew Zimmern: That's my production company, I immediately
00:39:06,329 --> 00:39:07,193
Andrew Zimmern: said family dinner.
00:39:07,265 --> 00:39:10,032
Andrew Zimmern: Because we put a family dinner in every
00:39:10,112 --> 00:39:11,255
Andrew Zimmern: episode of Bizarre Foods.
00:39:12,465 --> 00:39:14,392
Andrew Zimmern: We didn't label it or circle it, but we put
00:39:14,532 --> 00:39:16,049
Andrew Zimmern: one in there Because I felt it was
00:39:16,089 --> 00:39:17,850
Andrew Zimmern: important and I knew it worked.
00:39:17,885 --> 00:39:19,091
Andrew Zimmern: So I said let's do family dinner.
00:39:19,125 --> 00:39:20,149
Andrew Zimmern: And then they came back to me a couple
00:39:20,169 --> 00:39:21,887
Andrew Zimmern: weeks later and said well, we can't imagine
00:39:21,907 --> 00:39:23,793
Andrew Zimmern: this being hosted by anyone other than you.
00:39:23,833 --> 00:39:24,435
Andrew Zimmern: Would you do it?
00:39:24,885 --> 00:39:29,353
Andrew Zimmern: And I said, sure, and it's a fantastic show
00:39:29,393 --> 00:39:29,775
Andrew Zimmern: that way.
00:39:31,549 --> 00:39:33,434
Andrew Zimmern: And is it at times a little bit saccharine?
00:39:33,635 --> 00:39:38,815
Andrew Zimmern: Sure, is it at times extremely revelatory
00:39:39,416 --> 00:39:41,850
Andrew Zimmern: about who we are and why we do what we do
00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:44,487
Andrew Zimmern: as human beings, absolutely, and everything
00:39:44,527 --> 00:39:45,110
Andrew Zimmern: in between.
00:39:45,525 --> 00:39:48,111
Andrew Zimmern: But I do think it's a show that's ideally
00:39:48,211 --> 00:39:50,436
Andrew Zimmern: suited for now.
00:39:51,665 --> 00:39:54,092
Marc Preston: And speaking of the creation, and of course
00:39:54,172 --> 00:39:57,450
Marc Preston: I narrate TV shows and I understand a lot
00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:58,434
Marc Preston: of the production process.
00:39:58,525 --> 00:39:59,946
Marc Preston: I understand the other sizzle reels Trying
00:39:59,966 --> 00:40:02,849
Marc Preston: to get a show off the ground how many ideas
00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:04,908
Marc Preston: do you sit down, I mean throughout?
00:40:04,928 --> 00:40:07,867
Marc Preston: They'll say the span of a year, and I don't
00:40:07,887 --> 00:40:09,672
Marc Preston: want to say the Marcet's saturated with
00:40:09,813 --> 00:40:11,990
Marc Preston: food programming, it's just there is a lot
00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:13,615
Marc Preston: of options and a lot of different flavors
00:40:13,685 --> 00:40:14,730
Marc Preston: no pun intended out there.
00:40:15,265 --> 00:40:16,691
Marc Preston: How do you come up with your ideas on the
00:40:16,711 --> 00:40:17,233
Marc Preston: span of a year?
00:40:17,325 --> 00:40:18,870
Marc Preston: How many ideas are you coming up with for a
00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:19,994
Marc Preston: concept for a show?
00:40:20,685 --> 00:40:22,773
Marc Preston: And how do you know, like, yes, this one's
00:40:22,825 --> 00:40:24,068
Marc Preston: where I'm going to put my heart into this
00:40:24,189 --> 00:40:24,570
Marc Preston: one thing.
00:40:30,311 --> 00:40:33,458
Andrew Zimmern: Well, I'm blessed to own a production
00:40:33,478 --> 00:40:35,510
Andrew Zimmern: company that's a real screen international
00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:36,413
Andrew Zimmern: 100 company.
00:40:37,365 --> 00:40:41,334
Andrew Zimmern: The development team that is overt
00:40:41,394 --> 00:40:45,712
Andrew Zimmern: intuitive, churns ideas on a weekly basis.
00:40:47,725 --> 00:40:50,347
Andrew Zimmern: Some weeks it's three or four, some weeks
00:40:50,427 --> 00:40:50,990
Andrew Zimmern: it's 10.
00:40:51,565 --> 00:40:54,093
Andrew Zimmern: Because a network has asked for a bunch of
00:40:54,153 --> 00:40:56,850
Andrew Zimmern: log lines on a certain type of show by
00:40:56,930 --> 00:41:01,411
Andrew Zimmern: request, and so we will come up.
00:41:02,805 --> 00:41:04,873
Andrew Zimmern: I mean, look, some get discarded the day
00:41:04,945 --> 00:41:07,908
Andrew Zimmern: after you come up with them, but they will
00:41:08,048 --> 00:41:12,175
Andrew Zimmern: develop 200 ideas across the course of a
00:41:12,235 --> 00:41:17,453
Andrew Zimmern: year beyond someone in a meeting saying,
00:41:17,473 --> 00:41:18,336
Andrew Zimmern: hey, what about this?
00:41:18,545 --> 00:41:20,392
Andrew Zimmern: I mean, science is just one step further
00:41:20,432 --> 00:41:25,690
Andrew Zimmern: than that, but it's discussed and we're
00:41:25,790 --> 00:41:28,557
Andrew Zimmern: lucky if five or six of those become shows.
00:41:29,385 --> 00:41:34,305
Andrew Zimmern: No-transcript.
00:41:36,572 --> 00:41:38,356
Marc Preston: Just one last question regarding Anthony
00:41:38,396 --> 00:41:38,817
Marc Preston: Bourdain.
00:41:39,046 --> 00:41:41,615
Marc Preston: I was curious and naturally, of course, it
00:41:41,656 --> 00:41:42,619
Marc Preston: was sad, it was difficult.
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,470
Marc Preston: But how did you find out and how did it
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:46,313
Marc Preston: initially land?
00:41:46,525 --> 00:41:47,788
Marc Preston: Because I know my daughter called me and
00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:49,974
Marc Preston: told me I was like it was a very odd day,
00:41:50,375 --> 00:41:51,687
Marc Preston: to say the very least.
00:41:51,727 --> 00:41:53,914
Marc Preston: But how did that affect you that day?
00:41:54,525 --> 00:41:58,334
Andrew Zimmern: Oh, it was, I mean, horrific.
00:41:59,785 --> 00:42:01,909
Andrew Zimmern: So the night beforehand we had been
00:42:01,989 --> 00:42:06,097
Andrew Zimmern: shooting until 11 midnight in Philadelphia
00:42:07,847 --> 00:42:10,233
Andrew Zimmern: and you know we have to give the crew a
00:42:10,253 --> 00:42:11,396
Andrew Zimmern: certain number of hours off.
00:42:12,045 --> 00:42:16,514
Andrew Zimmern: So my call time, instead of being 7am, was
00:42:16,894 --> 00:42:20,389
Andrew Zimmern: 11.30 or noon and so I was sleeping in.
00:42:21,885 --> 00:42:23,529
Andrew Zimmern: And you know, my alarm goes off at 10,
00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:24,351
Andrew Zimmern: 10.30.
00:42:27,227 --> 00:42:30,576
Andrew Zimmern: And you know you hit your, you know my
00:42:30,676 --> 00:42:31,097
Andrew Zimmern: iPhone.
00:42:31,158 --> 00:42:33,925
Andrew Zimmern: I hit the off button and up pops my home
00:42:34,066 --> 00:42:40,313
Andrew Zimmern: screen and there are what appear to be
00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:45,046
Andrew Zimmern: hundreds of alerts and messages and I
00:42:45,106 --> 00:42:49,187
Andrew Zimmern: immediately panicked Because the only
00:42:49,248 --> 00:42:50,734
Andrew Zimmern: reason I could think of that there would be
00:42:50,854 --> 00:42:54,086
Andrew Zimmern: that much traffic on my phone would be if
00:42:54,126 --> 00:42:55,510
Andrew Zimmern: something had happened to my child and
00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:56,653
Andrew Zimmern: people were trying to get a hold of me.
00:42:59,007 --> 00:43:02,294
Andrew Zimmern: And I grabbed it and there's like phone
00:43:02,314 --> 00:43:04,185
Andrew Zimmern: message, phone message, phone message, and
00:43:04,386 --> 00:43:05,854
Andrew Zimmern: some of them were friends of mine that were
00:43:05,914 --> 00:43:08,105
Andrew Zimmern: reporters, and I was, but they were food
00:43:08,346 --> 00:43:12,134
Andrew Zimmern: side, and then I saw that, then the see it,
00:43:12,174 --> 00:43:13,801
Andrew Zimmern: then the alerts from the news.
00:43:13,925 --> 00:43:15,169
Marc Preston: And your brain's trying to put together
00:43:15,229 --> 00:43:16,853
Marc Preston: quickly what is going on in this.
00:43:16,874 --> 00:43:17,475
Marc Preston: What's going on?
00:43:18,446 --> 00:43:21,310
Andrew Zimmern: And I saw that you know I think I forget
00:43:21,631 --> 00:43:26,699
Andrew Zimmern: which news group I subscribed to so many
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,909
Andrew Zimmern: came up, were the first line, because you
00:43:28,929 --> 00:43:31,796
Andrew Zimmern: only see a little snippet said Anthony
00:43:31,836 --> 00:43:33,228
Andrew Zimmern: Bourdain, dead at age.
00:43:34,726 --> 00:43:39,566
Andrew Zimmern: And I, I just I was in shock and so I
00:43:39,726 --> 00:43:42,893
Andrew Zimmern: opened up my phone and I saw that several
00:43:44,075 --> 00:43:45,619
Andrew Zimmern: reporters that I knew had called me.
00:43:45,725 --> 00:43:52,516
Andrew Zimmern: I called one of them back and I said you,
00:43:52,677 --> 00:43:54,059
Andrew Zimmern: you left me a message.
00:43:54,926 --> 00:43:56,952
Andrew Zimmern: I said I just woke up what happened.
00:43:58,165 --> 00:44:01,587
Andrew Zimmern: And they filled me in and I wound up.
00:44:03,091 --> 00:44:05,055
Andrew Zimmern: I then called our producers who were with
00:44:05,135 --> 00:44:05,957
Andrew Zimmern: me in Philadelphia.
00:44:06,285 --> 00:44:07,491
Andrew Zimmern: They had, they knew it.
00:44:07,605 --> 00:44:09,313
Andrew Zimmern: They had found out an hour earlier when
00:44:09,334 --> 00:44:11,364
Andrew Zimmern: they got up and they were like, look, if
00:44:11,404 --> 00:44:13,350
Andrew Zimmern: you want to take the day off, we'll just,
00:44:14,212 --> 00:44:15,576
Andrew Zimmern: we'll just cancel today's shoot.
00:44:15,685 --> 00:44:16,869
Andrew Zimmern: And I'm like, absolutely not.
00:44:20,047 --> 00:44:21,210
Andrew Zimmern: And he had given.
00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:22,994
Andrew Zimmern: I gave him a lot of shit about some of his
00:44:23,054 --> 00:44:25,591
Andrew Zimmern: shoes and he had given me a pair of shoes.
00:44:25,645 --> 00:44:27,912
Marc Preston: I actually had them in my bag and I wore
00:44:27,952 --> 00:44:29,791
Marc Preston: the shoes he gave me Were the shoes in the
00:44:29,811 --> 00:44:31,283
Marc Preston: cowboy boots Because I know he had loved
00:44:31,303 --> 00:44:31,565
Marc Preston: cowboy boots.
00:44:31,565 --> 00:44:32,909
Andrew Zimmern: They weren't, they were desert, they were
00:44:32,949 --> 00:44:37,424
Andrew Zimmern: Clark's desert boots, which he had
00:44:37,464 --> 00:44:38,588
Andrew Zimmern: developed an affection for.
00:44:40,687 --> 00:44:44,494
Andrew Zimmern: And I, I called a lot of people back
00:44:44,614 --> 00:44:48,631
Andrew Zimmern: because we delayed our start and I, you
00:44:48,651 --> 00:44:51,043
Andrew Zimmern: know, I checked in with his, with his
00:44:51,123 --> 00:44:54,813
Andrew Zimmern: family, I mean, I was, I knew his wife, his
00:44:54,874 --> 00:44:58,050
Andrew Zimmern: daughter and then, of course, the you know,
00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:01,742
Andrew Zimmern: at 11 o'clock, 10 o'clock that night, we're
00:45:01,822 --> 00:45:03,308
Andrew Zimmern: shooting at Zahav restaurant in
00:45:03,368 --> 00:45:05,931
Andrew Zimmern: Philadelphia At the end of the day, where I
00:45:05,971 --> 00:45:07,580
Andrew Zimmern: was like half paying attention.
00:45:07,620 --> 00:45:09,168
Andrew Zimmern: Every other second I'm on the phone with a
00:45:09,208 --> 00:45:11,267
Andrew Zimmern: reporter or tech me, and part of the
00:45:11,307 --> 00:45:15,015
Andrew Zimmern: responsibility I felt was so many people
00:45:15,035 --> 00:45:17,348
Andrew Zimmern: are going to give the wrong impression, say
00:45:17,388 --> 00:45:20,536
Andrew Zimmern: the wrong thing, do the wrong thing.
00:45:21,185 --> 00:45:22,610
Marc Preston: But you're in a unique position to give
00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:23,673
Marc Preston: wonderful context.
00:45:24,866 --> 00:45:30,154
Andrew Zimmern: Well, and so so I I felt that it was okay
00:45:30,235 --> 00:45:33,079
Andrew Zimmern: for me to to respond to a lot of these.
00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:36,294
Andrew Zimmern: You know, everyone wanted my take on it.
00:45:36,425 --> 00:45:38,550
Andrew Zimmern: Now, you have to remember he's Tony's
00:45:38,590 --> 00:45:40,835
Andrew Zimmern: traveling with his best friend, eric Repair.
00:45:40,955 --> 00:45:41,938
Andrew Zimmern: Eric's not available.
00:45:42,486 --> 00:45:43,992
Andrew Zimmern: Eric, I mean, it's just, it's just horrific
00:45:45,548 --> 00:45:47,534
Andrew Zimmern: so, and the family's non responsive.
00:45:47,725 --> 00:45:49,028
Andrew Zimmern: So it it it.
00:45:49,469 --> 00:45:53,179
Andrew Zimmern: Then it falls to tier two, friends to sort
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,147
Andrew Zimmern: of like put the kibosh in the right thing,
00:45:58,525 --> 00:46:00,369
Andrew Zimmern: you know, and do the, you know, make sure
00:46:00,429 --> 00:46:04,838
Andrew Zimmern: that that the right thing is done.
00:46:05,685 --> 00:46:08,375
Andrew Zimmern: And so, and I wound up going on a couple
00:46:08,415 --> 00:46:09,399
Andrew Zimmern: CNN shows.
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:11,407
Andrew Zimmern: You know, that night they sent a live truck
00:46:11,467 --> 00:46:13,054
Andrew Zimmern: over to the restaurant that we were at and
00:46:13,115 --> 00:46:15,465
Andrew Zimmern: you know, I did a couple of a couple of
00:46:15,505 --> 00:46:19,895
Andrew Zimmern: those shows and it was just, it was a very,
00:46:19,976 --> 00:46:21,098
Andrew Zimmern: very, very sad night.
00:46:21,406 --> 00:46:23,310
Andrew Zimmern: I I can certainly say that not only was he
00:46:23,330 --> 00:46:25,135
Andrew Zimmern: the most charismatic human being I ever met,
00:46:26,125 --> 00:46:27,989
Andrew Zimmern: but I think he's one of the most important
00:46:28,050 --> 00:46:33,108
Andrew Zimmern: voices of of my generation and I think, you
00:46:33,148 --> 00:46:35,352
Andrew Zimmern: know, 50, 100 years from now, they will
00:46:35,392 --> 00:46:40,769
Andrew Zimmern: still be selling his books and talking
00:46:40,809 --> 00:46:42,254
Andrew Zimmern: about him in the same way that we do now.
00:46:43,107 --> 00:46:45,309
Marc Preston: I couldn't agree more and I think that it
00:46:45,409 --> 00:46:47,215
Marc Preston: will have to be, with time, that people can
00:46:47,235 --> 00:46:47,616
Marc Preston: look back.
00:46:47,957 --> 00:46:49,750
Marc Preston: Like I said, there were the same thing with
00:46:49,790 --> 00:46:50,533
Marc Preston: the shows you create.
00:46:50,565 --> 00:46:53,131
Andrew Zimmern: They do create not only insight, but it's
00:46:53,191 --> 00:46:55,356
Andrew Zimmern: also a time capsule and to a degree, I
00:46:55,416 --> 00:46:59,290
Andrew Zimmern: think that so he he wanted to craft art
00:46:59,370 --> 00:47:02,035
Andrew Zimmern: pieces out of a lot of his shows you know,
00:47:02,055 --> 00:47:05,071
Andrew Zimmern: and you know the black and white show and
00:47:05,112 --> 00:47:06,560
Andrew Zimmern: he let me know like all the different
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,429
Andrew Zimmern: things that he would do to try to be
00:47:09,569 --> 00:47:12,977
Andrew Zimmern: creative was fantastic.
00:47:13,725 --> 00:47:15,371
Marc Preston: Did you think the Roadrunner documentary
00:47:16,777 --> 00:47:18,905
Marc Preston: for the, for the layperson, do you think
00:47:18,925 --> 00:47:20,829
Marc Preston: them watching that that they got it pretty
00:47:20,949 --> 00:47:21,230
Marc Preston: right?
00:47:21,310 --> 00:47:24,377
Marc Preston: As far as articulating the Anthony Borden
00:47:24,417 --> 00:47:26,909
Marc Preston: experience, Did the Roadrunner documentary
00:47:26,929 --> 00:47:27,511
Marc Preston: got that done?
00:47:29,525 --> 00:47:30,833
Andrew Zimmern: To be honest with you, and I've tried a
00:47:30,874 --> 00:47:32,323
Andrew Zimmern: couple of times, I've not been able to get
00:47:32,363 --> 00:47:33,428
Andrew Zimmern: more than halfway through it.
00:47:35,285 --> 00:47:39,635
Andrew Zimmern: I mean the and and and part of that is and
00:47:39,715 --> 00:47:39,935
Andrew Zimmern: I have.
00:47:40,376 --> 00:47:41,786
Andrew Zimmern: I'm not one of those people who has a, who
00:47:41,806 --> 00:47:43,048
Andrew Zimmern: has a problem with them.
00:47:44,731 --> 00:47:49,679
Andrew Zimmern: You know, using AI to have him narrate,
00:47:49,739 --> 00:47:51,670
Andrew Zimmern: hear his voice, narrating things he wrote.
00:47:52,926 --> 00:47:55,693
Andrew Zimmern: I, you know, I, you know I don't have
00:47:55,753 --> 00:47:57,878
Andrew Zimmern: quibbles with that kind of thing.
00:47:58,025 --> 00:48:03,791
Andrew Zimmern: I, I just, you know I knew him, I, I, he
00:48:03,811 --> 00:48:08,413
Andrew Zimmern: was my friend, I and so other people have
00:48:08,453 --> 00:48:09,656
Andrew Zimmern: to decide for themselves.
00:48:10,265 --> 00:48:14,854
Andrew Zimmern: My understanding is from a lot of people.
00:48:14,914 --> 00:48:16,336
Andrew Zimmern: For the most part, they did get it right
00:48:17,885 --> 00:48:21,053
Andrew Zimmern: and certainly gave enough of a taste of it.
00:48:23,126 --> 00:48:25,871
Andrew Zimmern: I you know, but I've not been able to to
00:48:26,512 --> 00:48:29,578
Andrew Zimmern: make it through it and I've tried several
00:48:29,598 --> 00:48:29,779
Andrew Zimmern: times.
00:48:29,945 --> 00:48:33,645
Andrew Zimmern: I just I run out of of emotional energy for
00:48:33,665 --> 00:48:33,725
Andrew Zimmern: it.
00:48:33,765 --> 00:48:35,451
Andrew Zimmern: It's not that I get upset and have to turn
00:48:35,512 --> 00:48:35,753
Andrew Zimmern: it off.
00:48:36,286 --> 00:48:39,305
Andrew Zimmern: I, I just I have no desire to watch and I
00:48:39,326 --> 00:48:42,317
Andrew Zimmern: know it's only one of a handful of people
00:48:42,337 --> 00:48:44,485
Andrew Zimmern: that may be able to, to say that, just like,
00:48:44,565 --> 00:48:47,366
Andrew Zimmern: I've no interest in in seeing it and it's
00:48:47,526 --> 00:48:48,571
Andrew Zimmern: not a knock against them.
00:48:49,045 --> 00:48:51,213
Marc Preston: There's only one episode of parts unknown I
00:48:51,253 --> 00:48:51,594
Marc Preston: haven't seen.
00:48:51,745 --> 00:48:52,865
Marc Preston: It's the New Orleans episode.
00:48:53,186 --> 00:48:55,373
Marc Preston: I guess I, you know I'm Texas boy but I
00:48:55,393 --> 00:48:56,015
Marc Preston: live in New Orleans.
00:48:56,095 --> 00:48:58,233
Marc Preston: Now I've been here for quite some time and
00:48:58,374 --> 00:49:00,705
Marc Preston: and I remember one of his episodes he went
00:49:00,725 --> 00:49:02,531
Marc Preston: to a restaurant that was the best muff lot
00:49:02,551 --> 00:49:03,114
Marc Preston: in New Orleans.
00:49:03,265 --> 00:49:05,573
Marc Preston: You know he, he was like you do the same
00:49:05,613 --> 00:49:05,754
Marc Preston: thing.
00:49:06,005 --> 00:49:07,771
Marc Preston: You're not doing the travel guide way of
00:49:07,831 --> 00:49:09,527
Marc Preston: doing things, you know, and I remember
00:49:09,547 --> 00:49:11,112
Marc Preston: thinking that's I just can't bring myself
00:49:11,132 --> 00:49:13,609
Marc Preston: to watch that episode, just the most.
00:49:13,649 --> 00:49:15,433
Marc Preston: The most recent episode on the the no
00:49:15,473 --> 00:49:16,215
Marc Preston: reservation show.
00:49:16,255 --> 00:49:17,277
Marc Preston: I watched the New Orleans.
00:49:17,866 --> 00:49:19,392
Marc Preston: He always got it right, and you do as well,
00:49:19,785 --> 00:49:23,097
Marc Preston: and when we were, you know, when I travel
00:49:23,138 --> 00:49:25,325
Marc Preston: somewhere I inevitably I'm going to look up
00:49:25,345 --> 00:49:26,409
Marc Preston: what did Andrew go there?
00:49:26,529 --> 00:49:27,572
Marc Preston: Let me go watch that episode.
00:49:27,592 --> 00:49:30,133
Marc Preston: Thank God for streaming and I've got
00:49:30,154 --> 00:49:31,079
Marc Preston: Discovery, which I'm a big fan of.
00:49:31,099 --> 00:49:32,989
Marc Preston: The Discovery Plus app I made five bucks a
00:49:33,029 --> 00:49:35,099
Marc Preston: month is not trying to sell them, but it's
00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:37,289
Marc Preston: it's, of all the streamers out there really
00:49:37,309 --> 00:49:39,075
Marc Preston: has got a lot of content.
00:49:39,205 --> 00:49:41,816
Andrew Zimmern: Well, massive, massive library, and now
00:49:41,836 --> 00:49:43,744
Andrew Zimmern: that they've added you know, now the Warner
00:49:43,764 --> 00:49:46,487
Andrew Zimmern: Brothers side is on there the movies and I,
00:49:46,808 --> 00:49:50,045
Andrew Zimmern: I I'm not going to disagree with you, of
00:49:50,125 --> 00:49:52,791
Andrew Zimmern: course, as someone who made four or five
00:49:52,851 --> 00:49:56,258
Andrew Zimmern: shows in New Orleans, I'm dying to know
00:49:56,298 --> 00:49:57,348
Andrew Zimmern: you're you're going to have to watch some
00:49:57,388 --> 00:49:58,953
Andrew Zimmern: of mine and tell me if I got any of it
00:49:59,013 --> 00:50:00,106
Andrew Zimmern: right, but I will.
00:50:00,286 --> 00:50:02,252
Andrew Zimmern: I will say this there is a restaurant that
00:50:03,736 --> 00:50:07,045
Andrew Zimmern: I subs, after being taken there and getting
00:50:07,165 --> 00:50:09,651
Andrew Zimmern: turned on to it by a chef friend, have
00:50:09,771 --> 00:50:12,557
Andrew Zimmern: visited on every time that I've gone back
00:50:12,617 --> 00:50:16,552
Andrew Zimmern: there and that's R and O's out on the levy
00:50:16,612 --> 00:50:17,213
Andrew Zimmern: and mettery.
00:50:17,513 --> 00:50:17,734
Marc Preston: What?
00:50:18,034 --> 00:50:18,776
Marc Preston: Okay, see now.
00:50:18,876 --> 00:50:19,537
Marc Preston: Now you're a local.
00:50:20,705 --> 00:50:22,065
Marc Preston: If you know R and O's, it's not sexy, it's.
00:50:22,085 --> 00:50:24,711
Marc Preston: You know it's not, you know it it.
00:50:24,811 --> 00:50:29,188
Andrew Zimmern: but it is a local's place, it's incredible
00:50:29,369 --> 00:50:32,399
Andrew Zimmern: that I actually, in an episode that I shot
00:50:32,459 --> 00:50:34,386
Andrew Zimmern: there, I got up and stood in the middle of
00:50:34,426 --> 00:50:35,591
Andrew Zimmern: the dining room at lunch.
00:50:35,965 --> 00:50:37,686
Andrew Zimmern: There's 200 people in there, it's mobbed,
00:50:38,368 --> 00:50:40,513
Andrew Zimmern: lined of people out the door and I stood up
00:50:40,613 --> 00:50:44,129
Andrew Zimmern: all local, by the way and I and I stood up
00:50:44,209 --> 00:50:45,573
Andrew Zimmern: and I quieted everyone down.
00:50:45,693 --> 00:50:48,227
Andrew Zimmern: Cameras are rolling and I said is there
00:50:48,428 --> 00:50:52,274
Andrew Zimmern: anyone here who's not a local and a regular?
00:50:52,835 --> 00:50:55,847
Andrew Zimmern: And not a single hand went up and I just
00:50:55,868 --> 00:50:57,845
Andrew Zimmern: like raised my hand and everyone laughed.
00:50:57,986 --> 00:51:00,086
Andrew Zimmern: It was a great moment in the show but just
00:51:00,126 --> 00:51:02,091
Andrew Zimmern: to, there was no other way to illustrate to
00:51:02,131 --> 00:51:04,097
Andrew Zimmern: my audience how much of kind of like an
00:51:04,305 --> 00:51:09,278
Andrew Zimmern: insider's place it was and it's great.
00:51:09,465 --> 00:51:12,533
Andrew Zimmern: I mean fried seafood and gumbo and a beef,
00:51:12,914 --> 00:51:13,596
Andrew Zimmern: an unha.
00:51:14,305 --> 00:51:16,475
Andrew Zimmern: It's never on anyone's list of best po-boys,
00:51:16,957 --> 00:51:18,704
Andrew Zimmern: but they have a fried oyster po-boy, a
00:51:18,724 --> 00:51:22,095
Andrew Zimmern: fried shrimp po-boy, but their beef po-boy
00:51:22,175 --> 00:51:24,784
Andrew Zimmern: is what all my chef friends go there for
00:51:24,864 --> 00:51:28,248
Andrew Zimmern: because of their gravy, and I have one
00:51:28,328 --> 00:51:30,935
Andrew Zimmern: friend who does an oyster and it's a surf
00:51:30,976 --> 00:51:33,279
Andrew Zimmern: and turf, he does fried oysters and beef
00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:38,355
Andrew Zimmern: with beef gravy and I'm just it's mind
00:51:38,395 --> 00:51:39,378
Andrew Zimmern: bogglingly good.
00:51:39,606 --> 00:51:41,692
Andrew Zimmern: I just, I love everything about R&O.
00:51:41,732 --> 00:51:42,765
Marc Preston: Yeah, that is.
00:51:43,187 --> 00:51:45,314
Marc Preston: It's every ages in there too.
00:51:45,445 --> 00:51:46,871
Marc Preston: You know it's, you can tell it's a local
00:51:46,891 --> 00:51:47,012
Marc Preston: sport.
00:51:47,125 --> 00:51:48,791
Marc Preston: There's a place next to it called Deenies.
00:51:50,687 --> 00:51:52,293
Marc Preston: I think you may have gone to Deenies.
00:51:52,766 --> 00:51:54,873
Marc Preston: I seem to remember I did not.
00:51:55,245 --> 00:51:57,171
Andrew Zimmern: But if there's a place next, this is what's
00:51:57,191 --> 00:51:57,993
Andrew Zimmern: so great about life.
00:51:58,985 --> 00:52:00,009
Andrew Zimmern: Someone says to you oh, have you been to
00:52:00,029 --> 00:52:00,873
Andrew Zimmern: the place next door?
00:52:01,005 --> 00:52:02,571
Andrew Zimmern: It's like, well, no, I haven't because I
00:52:02,611 --> 00:52:03,233
Andrew Zimmern: don't live there.
00:52:03,525 --> 00:52:04,931
Andrew Zimmern: So whenever I go, I go to R&Os.
00:52:05,285 --> 00:52:06,952
Andrew Zimmern: I'm not going there to go to the place next
00:52:06,972 --> 00:52:07,112
Andrew Zimmern: door.
00:52:07,285 --> 00:52:09,413
Andrew Zimmern: And now I'm like check out the place next
00:52:09,433 --> 00:52:09,554
Andrew Zimmern: door.
00:52:09,605 --> 00:52:12,232
Marc Preston: I will tell you that very few things turn
00:52:12,252 --> 00:52:12,332
Marc Preston: me.
00:52:12,352 --> 00:52:13,415
Marc Preston: I mean living in New Orleans.
00:52:13,476 --> 00:52:15,188
Marc Preston: I will say this, being a Dallas boy, having
00:52:15,249 --> 00:52:17,034
Marc Preston: lived and worked in Los Angeles as well,
00:52:17,885 --> 00:52:19,435
Marc Preston: having been here about on and off about 20
00:52:19,475 --> 00:52:20,844
Marc Preston: years, I can tell you that two things.
00:52:20,865 --> 00:52:22,829
Marc Preston: I'm tired of seeing them open up or po-boy
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:24,574
Marc Preston: places and daiquiri shops, because they're
00:52:24,654 --> 00:52:26,566
Marc Preston: everywhere, everybody does it, and once you
00:52:26,586 --> 00:52:28,189
Marc Preston: have a place that starts doing something
00:52:28,249 --> 00:52:30,896
Marc Preston: really well, it's, I imagine, philadelphia
00:52:30,956 --> 00:52:33,108
Marc Preston: cheese steaks A lot everybody starts doing
00:52:33,129 --> 00:52:35,355
Marc Preston: them, but they're the kind of elite few.
00:52:36,225 --> 00:52:37,408
Marc Preston: And there's this place, dinis, they do
00:52:37,469 --> 00:52:37,769
Marc Preston: something.
00:52:37,809 --> 00:52:40,525
Marc Preston: They do a barbecue shrimp po-boy and it's
00:52:40,686 --> 00:52:43,325
Marc Preston: not barbecue like barbecue sauce, it's a
00:52:43,346 --> 00:52:45,152
Marc Preston: buttload of butter, and oh yeah.
00:52:46,125 --> 00:52:48,248
Marc Preston: And you go there, and you go just take a
00:52:48,352 --> 00:52:50,486
Marc Preston: bottle of Lipitor, go to town on it,
00:52:50,590 --> 00:52:52,249
Marc Preston: because if you don't, you're missing out.
00:52:52,389 --> 00:52:55,432
Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, and I love, I love New Orleans style
00:52:55,773 --> 00:52:58,041
Andrew Zimmern: barbecue shrimp and a cast iron pan with
00:52:58,062 --> 00:52:59,755
Andrew Zimmern: lots of rosemary and butter.
00:52:59,917 --> 00:53:01,187
Andrew Zimmern: And you know, you know that's one of the
00:53:01,207 --> 00:53:02,511
Andrew Zimmern: things I wanted to ask you about is that
00:53:02,551 --> 00:53:03,233
Andrew Zimmern: you've been to New Orleans.
00:53:03,925 --> 00:53:05,189
Marc Preston: They cannot replicate what's in New Orleans
00:53:05,389 --> 00:53:06,894
Marc Preston: anywhere else on earth the way it is in New
00:53:06,934 --> 00:53:07,174
Marc Preston: Orleans.
00:53:07,805 --> 00:53:08,848
Marc Preston: But the thing is, if you want something
00:53:08,868 --> 00:53:10,433
Marc Preston: besides the unique fine dining the
00:53:10,533 --> 00:53:13,869
Marc Preston: Antoine's, galatois, things like that it's
00:53:13,929 --> 00:53:17,175
Marc Preston: a little bit more of a challenge to find
00:53:17,215 --> 00:53:20,147
Marc Preston: those ethnic kind of places that are not
00:53:20,428 --> 00:53:21,792
Marc Preston: and I don't know the phrase for it.
00:53:21,832 --> 00:53:23,035
Marc Preston: Maybe you can help me out, but I can't.
00:53:23,365 --> 00:53:26,697
Marc Preston: It's almost like gentrified food where,
00:53:26,737 --> 00:53:28,163
Marc Preston: yeah, oh, they have I'm not saying this
00:53:28,383 --> 00:53:30,010
Marc Preston: necessarily the case, but let's say African.
00:53:30,605 --> 00:53:31,794
Marc Preston: Well, it's going to be a little bit out of
00:53:31,814 --> 00:53:33,124
Marc Preston: the reach for the average person because
00:53:33,144 --> 00:53:34,007
Marc Preston: it's going to be a little bit more on the
00:53:34,068 --> 00:53:34,670
Marc Preston: fancy side.
00:53:34,690 --> 00:53:36,355
Marc Preston: Where you go to New York you want great
00:53:36,425 --> 00:53:38,110
Marc Preston: Indian to ask your cab driver, you're going
00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:39,835
Marc Preston: to go spend five bucks and have a full meal,
00:53:40,205 --> 00:53:40,426
Marc Preston: you know.
00:53:42,125 --> 00:53:43,391
Marc Preston: But that's the one thing about New Orleans.
00:53:43,465 --> 00:53:46,033
Marc Preston: I wish we had more stuff from elsewhere,
00:53:46,254 --> 00:53:46,555
Marc Preston: you know.
00:53:46,805 --> 00:53:49,491
Andrew Zimmern: Well, but people, new Orleans is the.
00:53:50,132 --> 00:53:52,377
Andrew Zimmern: There's only a couple cities in the world
00:53:52,617 --> 00:53:54,029
Andrew Zimmern: that I believe fit this bill.
00:53:54,685 --> 00:53:56,732
Andrew Zimmern: When you shut your eyes and you say the
00:53:56,752 --> 00:54:00,564
Andrew Zimmern: word New Orleans twice out loud, you can
00:54:00,644 --> 00:54:03,010
Andrew Zimmern: smell it and taste it, and you cannot say
00:54:03,050 --> 00:54:04,072
Andrew Zimmern: that about other cities.
00:54:04,553 --> 00:54:09,292
Andrew Zimmern: And the reason is is because the food is
00:54:09,553 --> 00:54:10,074
Andrew Zimmern: its own.
00:54:10,806 --> 00:54:13,771
Andrew Zimmern: I don't, you know, nobody goes to.
00:54:14,393 --> 00:54:17,158
Andrew Zimmern: I've had friends go to Beijing and ask me
00:54:17,278 --> 00:54:19,830
Andrew Zimmern: for a great place for a hamburger, because
00:54:19,851 --> 00:54:21,255
Andrew Zimmern: they don't want to eat Chinese food all the
00:54:21,275 --> 00:54:22,226
Andrew Zimmern: time, and I said why?
00:54:22,266 --> 00:54:23,709
Andrew Zimmern: The first of all?
00:54:23,730 --> 00:54:25,193
Andrew Zimmern: I think it's a ridiculous question,
00:54:25,334 --> 00:54:29,946
Andrew Zimmern: ridiculous supposition, and I personally am
00:54:30,146 --> 00:54:31,872
Andrew Zimmern: so offended when anyone I know asked me
00:54:31,892 --> 00:54:32,313
Andrew Zimmern: that question.
00:54:33,086 --> 00:54:34,650
Andrew Zimmern: But no one goes down to New Orleans and
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:36,555
Andrew Zimmern: says, geez, do you know a good Japanese
00:54:36,615 --> 00:54:39,469
Andrew Zimmern: place for you know now, I'm sure, locals
00:54:39,549 --> 00:54:42,575
Andrew Zimmern: down there like you just expressed wished
00:54:42,636 --> 00:54:43,377
Andrew Zimmern: you had God.
00:54:44,385 --> 00:54:45,850
Andrew Zimmern: Sometimes I just feel like a great
00:54:45,890 --> 00:54:46,893
Andrew Zimmern: schnitzel, you know.
00:54:47,747 --> 00:54:49,414
Marc Preston: But God, that is almost like weird.
00:54:49,454 --> 00:54:51,082
Marc Preston: You say that I literally was watching
00:54:51,202 --> 00:54:53,389
Marc Preston: something a couple days ago of you you had.
00:54:53,550 --> 00:54:55,094
Marc Preston: It was some kind of a German thing where
00:54:55,114 --> 00:54:58,363
Marc Preston: they had oh God it was, I don't mean to
00:54:58,383 --> 00:54:59,569
Marc Preston: interrupt the schnitzel sandwich at the
00:54:59,609 --> 00:55:00,112
Marc Preston: State Fair.
00:55:00,787 --> 00:55:02,353
Andrew Zimmern: No, it was on my Instagram.
00:55:02,545 --> 00:55:08,018
Marc Preston: No, it was bits and pieces of shit.
00:55:08,385 --> 00:55:10,230
Marc Preston: Okay, I can't remember, but it was.
00:55:10,331 --> 00:55:11,273
Marc Preston: I was thinking schnitzel and.
00:55:11,293 --> 00:55:12,456
Marc Preston: Spatula and things like that.
00:55:12,485 --> 00:55:13,791
Marc Preston: I'm like, oh, those are kind of things.
00:55:13,925 --> 00:55:18,154
Andrew Zimmern: My point is my point is that you know New
00:55:18,214 --> 00:55:20,378
Andrew Zimmern: Orleans, like Portland Maine, where my dad
00:55:20,745 --> 00:55:22,150
Andrew Zimmern: retires, one of those cities that has a
00:55:22,211 --> 00:55:26,105
Andrew Zimmern: very small population yet has I mean, what
00:55:26,125 --> 00:55:26,867
Andrew Zimmern: does New Orleans get?
00:55:26,987 --> 00:55:28,491
Andrew Zimmern: 24 million?
00:55:28,531 --> 00:55:29,373
Marc Preston: visitors a year.
00:55:30,725 --> 00:55:31,710
Andrew Zimmern: It's an ungodly thing.
00:55:32,005 --> 00:55:35,793
Andrew Zimmern: And so, relative to the residential
00:55:35,853 --> 00:55:38,097
Andrew Zimmern: population, new Orleans has the most number
00:55:38,117 --> 00:55:38,699
Andrew Zimmern: of restaurants.
00:55:38,845 --> 00:55:42,011
Andrew Zimmern: This is, pre-covid, the most number of
00:55:42,051 --> 00:55:44,296
Andrew Zimmern: restaurants in any city in America per
00:55:44,356 --> 00:55:47,330
Andrew Zimmern: capita, because, just like Portland Maine,
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:49,117
Andrew Zimmern: it fills up with people.
00:55:49,157 --> 00:55:51,345
Andrew Zimmern: Except New Orleans fills up 10 months a
00:55:51,385 --> 00:55:53,471
Andrew Zimmern: year, portland Maine only three months,
00:55:53,531 --> 00:55:56,367
Andrew Zimmern: four months a year, and so, consequently,
00:55:56,628 --> 00:56:01,147
Andrew Zimmern: everybody wants to eat there, and you also
00:56:01,167 --> 00:56:03,272
Andrew Zimmern: have to remember that even you know America
00:56:03,312 --> 00:56:06,986
Andrew Zimmern: is some of the most beloved food in America,
00:56:07,026 --> 00:56:08,248
Andrew Zimmern: which is Italian food.
00:56:08,989 --> 00:56:13,958
Andrew Zimmern: I mean globally a favorite has developed
00:56:13,998 --> 00:56:16,391
Andrew Zimmern: its own hybridized style.
00:56:16,565 --> 00:56:20,772
Andrew Zimmern: There is a unique aspect to the New Orleans
00:56:20,832 --> 00:56:22,495
Andrew Zimmern: Italian restaurants that can be certain
00:56:22,575 --> 00:56:22,715
Andrew Zimmern: style.
00:56:26,006 --> 00:56:29,313
Andrew Zimmern: And there's a lot of the Creole tinge,
00:56:29,333 --> 00:56:33,662
Andrew Zimmern: which is different than Cajun, has sort of
00:56:33,742 --> 00:56:36,849
Andrew Zimmern: flown in there, and you know it's.
00:56:39,193 --> 00:56:41,056
Andrew Zimmern: You take someone who says, oh, are we going
00:56:41,076 --> 00:56:42,098
Andrew Zimmern: to eat Italian food tonight?
00:56:42,138 --> 00:56:46,735
Andrew Zimmern: Sure, and you take them to Chujox and it's.
00:56:46,956 --> 00:56:48,541
Andrew Zimmern: You watch their eyes roll back in their
00:56:48,581 --> 00:56:50,251
Andrew Zimmern: head and they're like this isn't Italian.
00:56:50,565 --> 00:56:53,132
Andrew Zimmern: And you're like, well, right, but it's New
00:56:53,212 --> 00:56:54,786
Andrew Zimmern: Orleans, right, I mean.
00:56:54,806 --> 00:56:56,136
Andrew Zimmern: So there's so many places like that.
00:56:57,288 --> 00:56:58,633
Andrew Zimmern: I'm a big fan of that town.
00:56:58,885 --> 00:57:00,175
Marc Preston: People understand Jefferson Parish.
00:57:01,226 --> 00:57:04,193
Marc Preston: Yeah, jefferson Parish is very.
00:57:05,635 --> 00:57:07,179
Marc Preston: They even have the Irish Italian parade
00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:07,319
Marc Preston: here.
00:57:07,345 --> 00:57:09,697
Marc Preston: I mean Italian, a lot of influences.
00:57:09,737 --> 00:57:11,164
Marc Preston: But I will tell you the next time you're in
00:57:11,184 --> 00:57:11,325
Marc Preston: there is.
00:57:11,345 --> 00:57:12,549
Marc Preston: We're kind of wrapping up here, but I do
00:57:12,589 --> 00:57:13,673
Marc Preston: have to tell you next time you're in New
00:57:13,733 --> 00:57:14,987
Marc Preston: Orleans I wouldn't be a.
00:57:15,689 --> 00:57:17,674
Marc Preston: Well, I think I've been through Katrina and
00:57:17,775 --> 00:57:18,456
Marc Preston: all the hurricanes.
00:57:18,565 --> 00:57:19,969
Marc Preston: I feel like I've earned my stripes here.
00:57:20,009 --> 00:57:23,828
Marc Preston: You know, sure, anthony Bourdain went there
00:57:24,249 --> 00:57:25,351
Marc Preston: and I knew he got.
00:57:25,933 --> 00:57:27,436
Marc Preston: He did what the smart people do in New
00:57:27,476 --> 00:57:29,327
Marc Preston: Orleans and get a cab driver.
00:57:29,367 --> 00:57:30,810
Marc Preston: It's kind of old, maybe a little crusty.
00:57:30,931 --> 00:57:32,715
Marc Preston: Ask them where they eat, because it's
00:57:32,755 --> 00:57:33,156
Marc Preston: always great.
00:57:33,176 --> 00:57:35,150
Marc Preston: Sure, I mean, there's a lot of sandwich
00:57:35,210 --> 00:57:36,177
Marc Preston: place called Norgeo.
00:57:36,197 --> 00:57:37,204
Marc Preston: It's an old metteried.
00:57:37,606 --> 00:57:39,169
Marc Preston: Everybody goes to the French Quarter to get
00:57:39,209 --> 00:57:39,249
Marc Preston: it.
00:57:39,891 --> 00:57:43,318
Marc Preston: But this is just, it is unique.
00:57:44,148 --> 00:57:46,562
Marc Preston: It's got that olive dress, all of salad,
00:57:46,582 --> 00:57:48,614
Marc Preston: the kind of thing it's just I'm thinking
00:57:48,634 --> 00:57:48,754
Marc Preston: about.
00:57:48,815 --> 00:57:50,021
Marc Preston: I mean, you tell I haven't had anything to
00:57:50,062 --> 00:57:50,645
Marc Preston: eat today so far.
00:57:50,867 --> 00:57:51,877
Marc Preston: So, because I'm now I'm thinking about
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,974
Marc Preston: eating one of those, but it is truly the
00:57:55,335 --> 00:57:57,384
Marc Preston: one of the best sandwiches I've ever had,
00:57:57,584 --> 00:57:57,745
Marc Preston: you know.
00:57:57,926 --> 00:58:00,177
Marc Preston: So my, actually, in the way they New
00:58:00,217 --> 00:58:01,986
Marc Preston: Orleans makes it unique is the street I
00:58:02,006 --> 00:58:02,910
Marc Preston: used to live on an old man.
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:04,597
Marc Preston: It was like the three doors down from it
00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:07,187
Marc Preston: and literally down the street is Is
00:58:07,247 --> 00:58:09,293
Marc Preston: somebody converted their garage into an
00:58:09,413 --> 00:58:10,557
Marc Preston: actual functioning bar.
00:58:11,226 --> 00:58:12,370
Marc Preston: So that's one of the things you find in New
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:12,811
Marc Preston: Orleans.
00:58:12,831 --> 00:58:15,287
Marc Preston: You know you're gonna have somebody In
00:58:15,308 --> 00:58:17,075
Marc Preston: there and their garage is converted.
00:58:17,216 --> 00:58:18,481
Marc Preston: Now people come and drink there.
00:58:18,521 --> 00:58:21,430
Marc Preston: It's just bizarre, yeah, but um, it was a
00:58:21,470 --> 00:58:22,853
Marc Preston: wrap up, one of the things I love to do as
00:58:22,893 --> 00:58:24,737
Marc Preston: my my my quick seven questions.
00:58:24,837 --> 00:58:28,012
Marc Preston: As to the first one, I'm talking probably
00:58:28,032 --> 00:58:29,816
Marc Preston: number one person on planet Earth right now
00:58:29,836 --> 00:58:31,734
Marc Preston: when I ask this question what is your
00:58:31,795 --> 00:58:32,825
Marc Preston: favorite comfort food?
00:58:33,467 --> 00:58:35,934
Andrew Zimmern: It's my grandmother's roast chicken that I
00:58:36,014 --> 00:58:36,295
Andrew Zimmern: make.
00:58:36,816 --> 00:58:39,383
Andrew Zimmern: Now that my father made it, then I make it,
00:58:39,664 --> 00:58:43,134
Andrew Zimmern: and I Still eat it twice a week really a
00:58:43,194 --> 00:58:46,529
Andrew Zimmern: whole chicken mm-hmm, with pan gravy and
00:58:47,151 --> 00:58:49,076
Andrew Zimmern: it's I mean, it's chicken, little two and a
00:58:49,116 --> 00:58:52,132
Andrew Zimmern: half pounder, you know, but it feeds two or
00:58:52,172 --> 00:58:52,754
Andrew Zimmern: three people.
00:58:52,815 --> 00:58:54,482
Andrew Zimmern: But I have to make my grandmother's onion
00:58:54,522 --> 00:58:55,185
Andrew Zimmern: pan gravy.
00:58:55,807 --> 00:58:58,136
Andrew Zimmern: It has to be done her way, seasoned, her
00:58:58,197 --> 00:58:58,478
Andrew Zimmern: way.
00:58:58,558 --> 00:59:00,104
Andrew Zimmern: Now have I refined it a little bit?
00:59:00,204 --> 00:59:05,171
Andrew Zimmern: Sure, but I haven't chef-y did up, as some
00:59:05,211 --> 00:59:07,140
Andrew Zimmern: people like to say, it's still her chicken.
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,526
Marc Preston: Where are your people from, though I've
00:59:08,546 --> 00:59:10,474
Marc Preston: always been curious about that Germany,
00:59:10,534 --> 00:59:11,117
Marc Preston: germany, okay.
00:59:11,157 --> 00:59:13,145
Andrew Zimmern: Well, they came over here in the 1840s, so
00:59:14,126 --> 00:59:16,132
Andrew Zimmern: you know it's it long time ago.
00:59:16,312 --> 00:59:19,008
Marc Preston: Okay, cuz my word, the Ukrainians, actually
00:59:19,028 --> 00:59:20,799
Marc Preston: everybody, they say, you know, jews from
00:59:20,980 --> 00:59:21,201
Marc Preston: Europe.
00:59:21,221 --> 00:59:21,905
Marc Preston: They all came through New York.
00:59:21,985 --> 00:59:23,690
Marc Preston: No, there's a big contingent.
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:25,615
Andrew Zimmern: Came through New Orleans or a mobile
00:59:25,675 --> 00:59:28,061
Andrew Zimmern: Alabama, or you know mine came through
00:59:28,102 --> 00:59:30,647
Andrew Zimmern: Charleston, south Carolina, and that's why
00:59:30,688 --> 00:59:32,771
Andrew Zimmern: they wound up in Atlanta and then, after
00:59:32,852 --> 00:59:34,475
Andrew Zimmern: the Civil War, walked to New York.
00:59:35,016 --> 00:59:35,497
Marc Preston: Yeah, we were.
00:59:35,817 --> 00:59:36,939
Marc Preston: We came through Galveston.
00:59:37,005 --> 00:59:37,828
Marc Preston: So yeah, that's it's.
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:40,256
Marc Preston: It's an interesting documentary called
00:59:40,965 --> 00:59:41,847
Marc Preston: Shalom y'all.
00:59:41,968 --> 00:59:43,231
Marc Preston: The Odyssey is sometimes kind of funny
00:59:43,251 --> 00:59:43,772
Marc Preston: about all these.
00:59:43,993 --> 00:59:45,296
Marc Preston: Oh yeah, no, love it.
00:59:45,456 --> 00:59:47,109
Marc Preston: Second question I got, you got a table,
00:59:47,209 --> 00:59:50,048
Marc Preston: four seats, you, three other people you
00:59:50,068 --> 00:59:51,375
Marc Preston: want to talk story for a few hours.
00:59:51,455 --> 00:59:53,325
Marc Preston: Who are those three people, living or not?
00:59:53,666 --> 00:59:55,172
Marc Preston: Who would you love to kind of get together
00:59:55,855 --> 00:59:57,822
Marc Preston: and just talk about life with for a while?
00:59:58,484 --> 01:00:00,492
Andrew Zimmern: Wow, well, I'm just gonna.
01:00:00,693 --> 01:00:02,278
Andrew Zimmern: I have to give myself boundaries, otherwise
01:00:02,339 --> 01:00:03,463
Andrew Zimmern: it's an endless.
01:00:03,884 --> 01:00:05,670
Andrew Zimmern: You know I'm one of those people who has
01:00:05,730 --> 01:00:07,475
Andrew Zimmern: collected detail for so long.
01:00:07,535 --> 01:00:07,996
Andrew Zimmern: I can't.
01:00:09,167 --> 01:00:12,347
Andrew Zimmern: It would be staggering, because I do have a
01:00:12,407 --> 01:00:14,552
Andrew Zimmern: historical set, but I'll just go with a
01:00:14,592 --> 01:00:15,434
Andrew Zimmern: contemporary set.
01:00:16,015 --> 01:00:19,609
Andrew Zimmern: I'd like to have dinner with David Simon,
01:00:21,327 --> 01:00:26,577
Andrew Zimmern: who created the wire, amongst other, in in
01:00:27,005 --> 01:00:31,367
Andrew Zimmern: Incredible, incredible shows, james
01:00:31,428 --> 01:00:44,115
Andrew Zimmern: Carville and David Simon, james Carville
01:00:45,259 --> 01:00:49,892
Andrew Zimmern: and I'll go with.
01:00:53,792 --> 01:00:55,936
Andrew Zimmern: I'll go with Tony Blair really okay.
01:00:56,236 --> 01:00:57,318
Andrew Zimmern: Well, here's why.
01:00:57,659 --> 01:01:02,510
Andrew Zimmern: Here's why Simon from Baltimore and and
01:01:02,530 --> 01:01:05,155
Andrew Zimmern: brilliant, by the way is his finest social,
01:01:05,255 --> 01:01:07,239
Andrew Zimmern: my favorite social commentator perhaps,
01:01:07,299 --> 01:01:07,840
Andrew Zimmern: with his work.
01:01:08,726 --> 01:01:09,107
Marc Preston: We did it.
01:01:09,147 --> 01:01:11,192
Andrew Zimmern: He did from a, also, I think, on HBO,
01:01:11,212 --> 01:01:17,788
Andrew Zimmern: didn't oh yeah, phenomenal, yeah, and you
01:01:17,828 --> 01:01:21,776
Andrew Zimmern: know James Carville because I adore him and
01:01:22,036 --> 01:01:23,659
Andrew Zimmern: I just would like to be able to break bread
01:01:24,766 --> 01:01:25,167
Andrew Zimmern: With him.
01:01:25,567 --> 01:01:28,513
Andrew Zimmern: But I need someone for all of us to ask
01:01:28,593 --> 01:01:31,218
Andrew Zimmern: questions of who would fill in blank spots
01:01:31,458 --> 01:01:36,627
Andrew Zimmern: and from an international, a non American
01:01:36,708 --> 01:01:37,390
Andrew Zimmern: perspective.
01:01:37,832 --> 01:01:43,149
Andrew Zimmern: And I'm lucky enough to work Sometimes with
01:01:43,189 --> 01:01:45,274
Andrew Zimmern: David Miliband, because I do work with the
01:01:45,294 --> 01:01:46,937
Andrew Zimmern: International Rescue Committee and he was
01:01:46,997 --> 01:01:49,451
Andrew Zimmern: Blair's secretary you know, foreign
01:01:49,491 --> 01:01:53,191
Andrew Zimmern: secretary and you know I get chance to talk
01:01:53,211 --> 01:01:55,562
Andrew Zimmern: to him sometimes and Tony Blair is just a
01:01:55,663 --> 01:01:57,148
Andrew Zimmern: fascinating guy but he knows where all the
01:01:57,188 --> 01:01:57,891
Andrew Zimmern: bodies are buried.
01:01:57,911 --> 01:02:00,809
Andrew Zimmern: I want to talk to him about Then and now
01:02:00,889 --> 01:02:02,293
Andrew Zimmern: you know Tony Blair is great because he was
01:02:02,334 --> 01:02:02,354
Andrew Zimmern: a.
01:02:02,895 --> 01:02:04,942
Marc Preston: He was the prime minister when we were
01:02:04,982 --> 01:02:06,005
Marc Preston: going through from.
01:02:06,466 --> 01:02:08,731
Marc Preston: You know different political swings in the
01:02:08,852 --> 01:02:09,954
Marc Preston: US but he did.
01:02:09,974 --> 01:02:11,458
Marc Preston: He come in right after Margaret Thatcher.
01:02:11,545 --> 01:02:12,933
Marc Preston: I'm trying to remember my okay.
01:02:13,436 --> 01:02:14,965
Announcer: So he, you know she had her thing.
01:02:15,046 --> 01:02:17,809
Marc Preston: She was a Reagan era, you know, but he he
01:02:17,849 --> 01:02:20,317
Marc Preston: kind of wrote a lot of our modern history.
01:02:20,397 --> 01:02:22,524
Marc Preston: You know, I could definitely but a James
01:02:22,564 --> 01:02:22,885
Marc Preston: Carville.
01:02:23,326 --> 01:02:24,208
Marc Preston: I saw him the other day.
01:02:24,809 --> 01:02:26,192
Marc Preston: I wish more note news folks would be
01:02:26,212 --> 01:02:28,578
Marc Preston: getting him on giving commentary because I
01:02:28,598 --> 01:02:31,612
Marc Preston: mean it's Theatrical common sense, you know
01:02:31,632 --> 01:02:32,034
Marc Preston: he's guys.
01:02:32,074 --> 01:02:34,163
Marc Preston: Just I love the way he articulates himself.
01:02:34,283 --> 01:02:34,705
Andrew Zimmern: He's the best.
01:02:35,947 --> 01:02:38,051
Marc Preston: Now next question who is your first when
01:02:38,071 --> 01:02:38,432
Marc Preston: you were kid?
01:02:38,452 --> 01:02:39,835
Marc Preston: Who was your first celebrity crush?
01:02:40,316 --> 01:02:47,289
Andrew Zimmern: My first celebrity crush, oh my gosh.
01:02:48,266 --> 01:02:52,327
Andrew Zimmern: Well, I mean not to not to put two Fine a
01:02:52,387 --> 01:02:56,189
Andrew Zimmern: point on it, but you know I'm 61, so the
01:02:56,350 --> 01:02:59,604
Andrew Zimmern: first celebrities that I ever saw that I
01:02:59,684 --> 01:03:03,634
Andrew Zimmern: was Attracted to were in the Playboy
01:03:03,714 --> 01:03:10,627
Andrew Zimmern: magazine's annual movies issue, and Movies
01:03:10,767 --> 01:03:14,575
Andrew Zimmern: you know the sex in movies issue, and so
01:03:14,655 --> 01:03:18,769
Andrew Zimmern: they, they always had, you know, incredible.
01:03:19,110 --> 01:03:21,375
Andrew Zimmern: You know that it was, and they were screen
01:03:21,395 --> 01:03:25,469
Andrew Zimmern: grabs of topless actresses and and, and so
01:03:25,630 --> 01:03:27,236
Andrew Zimmern: there were, and there were.
01:03:28,179 --> 01:03:28,982
Andrew Zimmern: I mean this was.
01:03:29,002 --> 01:03:30,728
Andrew Zimmern: I mean you have to see, this is through the
01:03:30,788 --> 01:03:34,887
Andrew Zimmern: lens of a 13 year old boy, right, it was
01:03:35,248 --> 01:03:36,851
Andrew Zimmern: which is a very vibrant lens.
01:03:36,992 --> 01:03:38,154
Andrew Zimmern: Yes, it is.
01:03:38,415 --> 01:03:44,327
Andrew Zimmern: It is a very vibrant lens and 1974
01:03:44,347 --> 01:03:48,516
Andrew Zimmern: Jacqueline Bissette was about as as good as
01:03:48,596 --> 01:03:50,059
Andrew Zimmern: it got for me at that time.
01:03:50,486 --> 01:03:51,590
Marc Preston: Yeah, I, yeah.
01:03:51,610 --> 01:03:53,015
Marc Preston: Somebody the other day brought up something
01:03:53,035 --> 01:03:54,681
Marc Preston: which I don't think many guys might.
01:03:54,721 --> 01:03:56,148
Marc Preston: I'm a little younger than you are, but I,
01:03:56,251 --> 01:03:57,990
Marc Preston: but somebody brought up Haley Mills.
01:03:58,093 --> 01:03:59,821
Marc Preston: I was like, oh man, but anyway, I was
01:03:59,924 --> 01:04:01,604
Marc Preston: thinking as when I was young, well, I
01:04:01,624 --> 01:04:03,491
Marc Preston: didn't realize shows that were shot in the
01:04:03,672 --> 01:04:04,194
Marc Preston: 60s.
01:04:05,507 --> 01:04:06,933
Marc Preston: You know, before you get a little older,
01:04:07,726 --> 01:04:09,010
Marc Preston: you know 9, 10, 11, you know you start
01:04:09,050 --> 01:04:10,755
Marc Preston: realizing, oh, wait a minute, this person's
01:04:10,795 --> 01:04:11,216
Marc Preston: much older.
01:04:12,586 --> 01:04:13,931
Marc Preston: One last questions is if you're gonna be on
01:04:13,972 --> 01:04:15,678
Marc Preston: an island for a year, an island you love
01:04:15,738 --> 01:04:17,505
Marc Preston: being on, but there is no streaming.
01:04:17,826 --> 01:04:20,252
Marc Preston: You can only bring one DVD to watch a movie,
01:04:20,552 --> 01:04:24,027
Marc Preston: one movie, and you can only bring one CD or
01:04:24,047 --> 01:04:24,428
Marc Preston: an album.
01:04:24,769 --> 01:04:25,531
Marc Preston: You know what?
01:04:25,671 --> 01:04:26,914
Marc Preston: What's that movie, what's that album I'm
01:04:26,934 --> 01:04:28,778
Marc Preston: gonna be for you to hang on to for a year?
01:04:28,825 --> 01:04:32,877
Andrew Zimmern: the movies gotta be Godfather parts one and
01:04:32,994 --> 01:04:35,635
Andrew Zimmern: two, because they are sold together on a
01:04:35,753 --> 01:04:37,068
Andrew Zimmern: single DVD set.
01:04:37,185 --> 01:04:39,249
Andrew Zimmern: So I'm going to, I'm gonna twist, I'm gonna
01:04:39,269 --> 01:04:40,192
Andrew Zimmern: tweak that a little bit.
01:04:41,786 --> 01:04:43,692
Marc Preston: Have you seen the offer on a Paramount Plus
01:04:43,712 --> 01:04:44,233
Marc Preston: by chance?
01:04:44,273 --> 01:04:44,614
Andrew Zimmern: brilliant.
01:04:45,035 --> 01:04:45,517
Andrew Zimmern: It's brilliant.
01:04:47,007 --> 01:04:51,774
Andrew Zimmern: So you know, I think that's the movie.
01:04:52,055 --> 01:04:56,671
Andrew Zimmern: And then For music, that is just.
01:04:56,911 --> 01:04:59,577
Andrew Zimmern: That's painful for someone who is such a
01:04:59,717 --> 01:05:03,389
Andrew Zimmern: music geek Like I'll see the guitar behind
01:05:03,409 --> 01:05:03,529
Andrew Zimmern: you.
01:05:03,609 --> 01:05:05,233
Marc Preston: Is that for decoration or do you play?
01:05:05,453 --> 01:05:06,095
Andrew Zimmern: I do play.
01:05:06,536 --> 01:05:08,967
Andrew Zimmern: That's actually a Paul McCartney Signed
01:05:09,027 --> 01:05:12,235
Andrew Zimmern: guitar that I got four or five years ago
01:05:12,255 --> 01:05:13,277
Andrew Zimmern: when he was in Minneapolis.
01:05:14,187 --> 01:05:16,291
Andrew Zimmern: Um yeah, it's a nice flex, right?
01:05:16,892 --> 01:05:18,937
Andrew Zimmern: Oh yeah, that's my, that's my Paul
01:05:19,217 --> 01:05:25,892
Andrew Zimmern: McCartney autographed Guitar very nice,
01:05:25,972 --> 01:05:27,617
Andrew Zimmern: which I which, which I'm a big.
01:05:28,986 --> 01:05:30,089
Andrew Zimmern: I'm a big fan of that one.
01:05:30,310 --> 01:05:32,375
Marc Preston: Well, it's a baseball bat, so I'm imagining
01:05:32,455 --> 01:05:32,616
Marc Preston: it's.
01:05:32,636 --> 01:05:34,270
Marc Preston: You got the music, you got the sports you
01:05:34,290 --> 01:05:35,979
Marc Preston: know I got that, I've got the whole thing.
01:05:36,019 --> 01:05:39,470
Andrew Zimmern: But you can see I I Think well, it's hard
01:05:39,510 --> 01:05:42,316
Andrew Zimmern: to pick up, but he signed it in silver on
01:05:42,336 --> 01:05:43,579
Andrew Zimmern: the black edging there.
01:05:45,346 --> 01:05:47,153
Andrew Zimmern: So I think I'll tell you the.
01:05:50,666 --> 01:05:54,314
Andrew Zimmern: This is gonna sound a little goofy, but I
01:05:54,354 --> 01:05:58,107
Andrew Zimmern: would go with the band's last waltz Because
01:05:58,127 --> 01:06:00,334
Andrew Zimmern: it's got a lot of the music that I love and
01:06:00,394 --> 01:06:02,662
Andrew Zimmern: I can sing along with every song and it.
01:06:02,983 --> 01:06:04,988
Andrew Zimmern: It's got quiet, tender moments and it
01:06:05,068 --> 01:06:06,832
Andrew Zimmern: stomps like a son of a bitch when you
01:06:06,872 --> 01:06:07,373
Andrew Zimmern: wanted to.
01:06:07,854 --> 01:06:09,538
Andrew Zimmern: So I'll go with the band's last waltz.
01:06:10,186 --> 01:06:11,672
Marc Preston: Well, yeah, I'm thinking with the area
01:06:11,692 --> 01:06:12,314
Marc Preston: you're going up in.
01:06:13,126 --> 01:06:15,533
Marc Preston: You were like I was born in 73.
01:06:15,794 --> 01:06:16,336
Announcer: Yeah, now so.
01:06:18,586 --> 01:06:22,036
Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, well, I noticed that the 70s kind of
01:06:22,056 --> 01:06:23,567
Andrew Zimmern: passed me by a little bit, but you were
01:06:23,808 --> 01:06:25,435
Andrew Zimmern: right in the thick of it, you know, as far
01:06:25,475 --> 01:06:27,563
Andrew Zimmern: as music, oh, I was we would go on weekends
01:06:27,644 --> 01:06:30,553
Andrew Zimmern: to see you know Pink Floyd, one weekend Led
01:06:30,593 --> 01:06:32,439
Andrew Zimmern: Zeppelin, the next weekend at the garden,
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,390
Andrew Zimmern: and then on Thursday night You'd go see the
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:39,956
Andrew Zimmern: Ramones or you know whatever other punk
01:06:39,976 --> 01:06:40,137
Andrew Zimmern: music.
01:06:40,177 --> 01:06:42,144
Marc Preston: I'm married when I saw you're, you're,
01:06:42,164 --> 01:06:43,975
Marc Preston: that's right, you're all the nights I saw
01:06:44,136 --> 01:06:45,183
Marc Preston: all the night around zero.
01:06:45,203 --> 01:06:46,917
Andrew Zimmern: Oh yeah, I saw all the nights of you know
01:06:46,937 --> 01:06:49,833
Andrew Zimmern: the clash at bonds, I mean, I mean just on
01:06:49,873 --> 01:06:50,556
Andrew Zimmern: and on and on.
01:06:50,656 --> 01:06:53,206
Andrew Zimmern: It was so you're a CBGB once or twice yeah
01:06:53,326 --> 01:06:55,551
Andrew Zimmern: no many, because all our older brothers and
01:06:55,611 --> 01:06:58,416
Andrew Zimmern: sisters of my friends would take us to
01:06:58,456 --> 01:07:02,011
Andrew Zimmern: those places when we were 10, 12, 13, 14.
01:07:02,747 --> 01:07:05,807
Andrew Zimmern: So first first Concert I saw without my
01:07:05,867 --> 01:07:08,773
Andrew Zimmern: parents was 72, the brown sugar tour that
01:07:08,833 --> 01:07:10,116
Andrew Zimmern: the Stones did.
01:07:10,176 --> 01:07:12,967
Andrew Zimmern: Because my friend's older sister took us In
01:07:13,007 --> 01:07:15,154
Andrew Zimmern: where Mick was riding the giant inflatable
01:07:15,215 --> 01:07:18,353
Andrew Zimmern: tongue On stage and I thought I died and
01:07:18,373 --> 01:07:18,855
Andrew Zimmern: went to heaven.
01:07:19,326 --> 01:07:20,931
Marc Preston: I do envy folks a little bit.
01:07:21,192 --> 01:07:22,896
Marc Preston: You know the folks are a little bit older
01:07:25,285 --> 01:07:27,471
Marc Preston: Gen X, you know, to a little bit older than
01:07:27,491 --> 01:07:27,993
Marc Preston: that they got.
01:07:28,073 --> 01:07:29,457
Marc Preston: They got a good musical hit there.
01:07:30,446 --> 01:07:32,592
Marc Preston: Now the next question is if you're gonna be
01:07:33,053 --> 01:07:34,296
Marc Preston: from the time you wake up, time you go to
01:07:34,337 --> 01:07:36,188
Marc Preston: sleep, definition of a perfect day, or the
01:07:36,228 --> 01:07:37,451
Marc Preston: component parts for you.
01:07:38,153 --> 01:07:39,376
Marc Preston: You're like this was a good day.
01:07:39,777 --> 01:07:40,378
Marc Preston: What's that for you?
01:07:44,217 --> 01:07:46,163
Andrew Zimmern: Well, I had one Friday I went to.
01:07:46,203 --> 01:07:48,219
Andrew Zimmern: I went to work, had a decent morning,
01:07:48,865 --> 01:07:49,809
Andrew Zimmern: bugged out and did something I really
01:07:51,095 --> 01:07:51,497
Andrew Zimmern: wanted to do.
01:07:51,557 --> 01:07:53,003
Andrew Zimmern: It spent a couple hours at the State Fair
01:07:53,044 --> 01:07:54,848
Andrew Zimmern: but doing Something to help advance a cause
01:07:54,868 --> 01:07:55,932
Andrew Zimmern: and was stumping with a candidate here and
01:08:00,665 --> 01:08:01,770
Andrew Zimmern: Went home, took a nap on the couch because
01:08:01,810 --> 01:08:05,223
Andrew Zimmern: I don't interrupt you, but can we get Al
01:08:05,283 --> 01:08:05,564
Andrew Zimmern: Franken back?
01:08:07,321 --> 01:08:07,705
Marc Preston: Is that my friend?
01:08:07,986 --> 01:08:09,308
Marc Preston: I don't interrupt you, but can we get Al
01:08:09,348 --> 01:08:09,930
Marc Preston: Franken back?
01:08:10,190 --> 01:08:11,272
Marc Preston: Is that possible?
01:08:11,292 --> 01:08:11,914
Marc Preston: We're gonna try.
01:08:11,954 --> 01:08:13,738
Andrew Zimmern: I just interviewed him this morning for my
01:08:13,798 --> 01:08:14,319
Andrew Zimmern: sub stack.
01:08:16,246 --> 01:08:17,993
Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, andrew Zimmer dot sub stack.
01:08:18,034 --> 01:08:20,283
Andrew Zimmern: Calm, we're starting to do a lot of video
01:08:20,323 --> 01:08:20,845
Andrew Zimmern: interviews now.
01:08:20,925 --> 01:08:21,868
Andrew Zimmern: I just talked to Al.
01:08:21,948 --> 01:08:23,653
Andrew Zimmern: He's a friend of mine, so we just we just
01:08:23,693 --> 01:08:24,997
Andrew Zimmern: spent some time with him this morning.
01:08:25,727 --> 01:08:28,350
Andrew Zimmern: One of our first guests Took a little nap
01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:30,239
Andrew Zimmern: with the dogs and woke up to find out that
01:08:30,299 --> 01:08:32,107
Andrew Zimmern: some musician friends of mine we're coming
01:08:32,167 --> 01:08:35,580
Andrew Zimmern: into town and landing at seven and I just
01:08:35,620 --> 01:08:37,106
Andrew Zimmern: convinced them to come over for dinner and
01:08:37,166 --> 01:08:39,994
Andrew Zimmern: I made everyone a big meal and sat around
01:08:40,094 --> 01:08:42,690
Andrew Zimmern: bullshitting with them till Midnight and it
01:08:42,730 --> 01:08:42,850
Andrew Zimmern: was.
01:08:43,293 --> 01:08:44,760
Andrew Zimmern: I went to bed that night just thinking well,
01:08:44,781 --> 01:08:46,090
Andrew Zimmern: that was a perfect day, what's not?
01:08:46,192 --> 01:08:48,913
Marc Preston: great in the great, it's just you, just
01:08:49,074 --> 01:08:50,320
Marc Preston: when you can stop and go.
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:51,164
Marc Preston: Okay, this is I.
01:08:52,367 --> 01:08:53,632
Marc Preston: When I was out of town with my kids few
01:08:53,653 --> 01:08:53,994
Marc Preston: weeks ago.
01:08:54,014 --> 01:08:55,602
Marc Preston: I just had one of those moments, just like
01:08:55,642 --> 01:08:56,325
Marc Preston: this is just perfect.
01:08:56,527 --> 01:08:56,951
Marc Preston: I'm loving.
01:08:56,991 --> 01:08:58,926
Marc Preston: I want to kind of breathe this in Now.
01:08:58,966 --> 01:08:59,608
Marc Preston: Last two questions.
01:08:59,689 --> 01:09:01,694
Marc Preston: And if you weren't doing this, doing things
01:09:01,754 --> 01:09:03,407
Marc Preston: like what you said, the United Nations, or
01:09:03,448 --> 01:09:06,394
Marc Preston: with all the things you do and with
01:09:06,675 --> 01:09:08,427
Marc Preston: creatively what you're doing, what would
01:09:08,487 --> 01:09:09,350
Marc Preston: your gig be?
01:09:09,471 --> 01:09:11,439
Marc Preston: What do you think would bring you
01:09:11,900 --> 01:09:13,125
Marc Preston: satisfaction if you weren't doing what
01:09:13,245 --> 01:09:13,828
Marc Preston: you're doing now?
01:09:14,290 --> 01:09:16,458
Andrew Zimmern: Teaching history or art history.
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:17,965
Andrew Zimmern: I thought that's what I wanted to do at one
01:09:17,985 --> 01:09:18,085
Andrew Zimmern: point.
01:09:18,185 --> 01:09:19,128
Marc Preston: Oh, don't you think you're doing that
01:09:19,168 --> 01:09:20,371
Marc Preston: indirectly right now?
01:09:20,671 --> 01:09:23,807
Andrew Zimmern: You know, yeah no for sure, but that I
01:09:23,827 --> 01:09:26,116
Andrew Zimmern: would have done it formerly A lot of people.
01:09:26,156 --> 01:09:27,843
Andrew Zimmern: But I only came to this later in life.
01:09:27,944 --> 01:09:29,932
Andrew Zimmern: So people say, well, wouldn't it be serving,
01:09:29,952 --> 01:09:30,895
Andrew Zimmern: you know, public office?
01:09:31,437 --> 01:09:33,345
Andrew Zimmern: And the fact of the matter is that I've
01:09:33,485 --> 01:09:36,451
Andrew Zimmern: said on many interviews many times that at
01:09:36,511 --> 01:09:40,558
Andrew Zimmern: whatever time this career of mine enters a
01:09:40,618 --> 01:09:45,610
Andrew Zimmern: different phase, you know I would like to
01:09:45,670 --> 01:09:46,732
Andrew Zimmern: run for public office.
01:09:47,835 --> 01:09:48,717
Andrew Zimmern: I talk about it all the time.
01:09:48,757 --> 01:09:51,089
Andrew Zimmern: Then, privately, all of my advisors and my
01:09:51,690 --> 01:09:53,734
Andrew Zimmern: politician friends tell me well, you can
01:09:53,754 --> 01:09:57,231
Andrew Zimmern: make as much influence from not being in
01:09:57,291 --> 01:09:59,079
Andrew Zimmern: public office, but you know doing what you
01:09:59,099 --> 01:10:00,104
Andrew Zimmern: do from the sideline.
01:10:00,124 --> 01:10:01,509
Marc Preston: I think you can make people think.
01:10:01,610 --> 01:10:04,441
Marc Preston: So, most certainly, we'll see, and I think
01:10:04,461 --> 01:10:05,445
Marc Preston: you've done a wonderful job of that.
01:10:05,525 --> 01:10:06,691
Marc Preston: I mean, you make people think, they
01:10:06,731 --> 01:10:09,243
Marc Preston: contemplate, they put, they put themselves
01:10:09,283 --> 01:10:10,589
Marc Preston: in the shoes of the people, because that's
01:10:10,670 --> 01:10:12,620
Marc Preston: one of the things I think you're I love in
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:13,363
Marc Preston: your storytelling.
01:10:13,404 --> 01:10:14,909
Marc Preston: This is not it sounds like I'm stroking you,
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:18,623
Marc Preston: I'm certainly not but you putting someone
01:10:18,683 --> 01:10:20,369
Marc Preston: who's sitting on their sofa drinking a beer
01:10:21,051 --> 01:10:22,657
Marc Preston: as close as you can to being in the
01:10:22,697 --> 01:10:25,125
Marc Preston: situation you're in, so there could be that
01:10:25,225 --> 01:10:28,153
Marc Preston: kind of kind of indirect experience.
01:10:28,313 --> 01:10:29,476
Marc Preston: You know, and I think that that's.
01:10:30,278 --> 01:10:32,668
Marc Preston: I think you can wield a lot more influence,
01:10:32,688 --> 01:10:34,454
Marc Preston: because I just think you can.
01:10:34,755 --> 01:10:35,037
Marc Preston: I would.
01:10:36,020 --> 01:10:37,184
Marc Preston: I'm selfish, I don't want you to stop
01:10:37,224 --> 01:10:39,951
Marc Preston: making your show, so, but the last question
01:10:39,991 --> 01:10:41,935
Marc Preston: I got for you, if you were to jump in your
01:10:41,955 --> 01:10:45,149
Marc Preston: DeLorean cruise back, there's 16 year old
01:10:45,250 --> 01:10:45,511
Marc Preston: Andrew.
01:10:45,611 --> 01:10:47,419
Marc Preston: You got a piece of advice wisdom.
01:10:48,021 --> 01:10:49,587
Marc Preston: It could either get you on a better track
01:10:49,648 --> 01:10:52,035
Marc Preston: in that moment or maybe to make life even
01:10:52,316 --> 01:10:53,641
Marc Preston: better for 16 year old you.
01:10:53,661 --> 01:10:56,028
Marc Preston: But regardless, what is that piece of
01:10:56,068 --> 01:10:58,917
Marc Preston: advice you're going to offer yourself at 16?
01:11:04,425 --> 01:11:06,510
Andrew Zimmern: The most important thing that I've learned
01:11:06,650 --> 01:11:10,197
Andrew Zimmern: in the last 45 years of my life is the
01:11:10,318 --> 01:11:13,774
Andrew Zimmern: following sentence I don't know to the
01:11:13,974 --> 01:11:14,275
Andrew Zimmern: answer.
01:11:14,756 --> 01:11:16,542
Andrew Zimmern: I don't know the answer to that.
01:11:16,903 --> 01:11:17,685
Andrew Zimmern: Can you help me?
01:11:20,349 --> 01:11:23,434
Andrew Zimmern: I spent the first 30 years of my life,
01:11:23,794 --> 01:11:27,760
Andrew Zimmern: first 40 years of my life, so obsessed with
01:11:27,820 --> 01:11:30,453
Andrew Zimmern: self, so sure that I knew the answer to
01:11:30,553 --> 01:11:30,994
Andrew Zimmern: everything.
01:11:31,095 --> 01:11:33,804
Andrew Zimmern: And in the last 20 years of my sobriety and
01:11:33,904 --> 01:11:36,615
Andrew Zimmern: I've been sober 30 plus years, but it's
01:11:36,715 --> 01:11:38,402
Andrew Zimmern: really the last 20 years I have learned the
01:11:38,422 --> 01:11:43,414
Andrew Zimmern: most valuable sentence in the in my life is
01:11:44,617 --> 01:11:45,218
Andrew Zimmern: I don't know.
01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:46,361
Andrew Zimmern: Can you help me?
01:11:47,343 --> 01:11:47,944
Marc Preston: I really like that.
01:11:47,964 --> 01:11:50,072
Marc Preston: I think being able to ask questions you
01:11:50,112 --> 01:11:51,418
Marc Preston: have to kind of put your ego to the side,
01:11:51,478 --> 01:11:54,348
Marc Preston: but when you talked about your history and
01:11:54,409 --> 01:11:58,581
Marc Preston: substance abuse, the odds were not stacked
01:11:58,601 --> 01:11:59,504
Marc Preston: in your favor at all.
01:11:59,544 --> 01:12:01,250
Marc Preston: And again I look like Anthony Bourdain the
01:12:01,290 --> 01:12:04,020
Marc Preston: same thing and I had a unique perspective
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,749
Marc Preston: because I grew up in Dallas as a kid and
01:12:06,789 --> 01:12:08,675
Marc Preston: the latchkey kid in the 80s.
01:12:09,377 --> 01:12:11,744
Marc Preston: There is a lot of high roll and you know,
01:12:11,785 --> 01:12:13,910
Marc Preston: let's say I was like I definitely don't
01:12:13,931 --> 01:12:15,776
Marc Preston: want that it's life record Now, that kind
01:12:15,796 --> 01:12:16,197
Marc Preston: of a thing.
01:12:16,906 --> 01:12:18,293
Marc Preston: Then I ended up working in radio and
01:12:18,333 --> 01:12:19,800
Marc Preston: entertainment and I found a lot of my
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,230
Marc Preston: favorite people had had a story arc where,
01:12:22,250 --> 01:12:24,379
Marc Preston: yeah, they're okay now, like a got him
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,366
Marc Preston: shadow Stevens you remember it was American
01:12:26,407 --> 01:12:26,948
Marc Preston: Top 40.
01:12:27,109 --> 01:12:28,553
Marc Preston: Oh, sure you know and I look at where
01:12:28,573 --> 01:12:32,245
Marc Preston: they're at now and there's, there's so much
01:12:32,245 --> 01:12:34,525
Marc Preston: wisdom, there's so much to be learned by
01:12:34,650 --> 01:12:34,991
Marc Preston: somebody.
01:12:35,116 --> 01:12:37,755
Marc Preston: When you have seen, you know bookends of
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,310
Marc Preston: what things could be like in life, and I
01:12:40,350 --> 01:12:42,975
Marc Preston: had an extra appreciation, enhanced
01:12:42,995 --> 01:12:45,168
Marc Preston: appreciation, for those that could tell a
01:12:45,339 --> 01:12:47,966
Marc Preston: story about their recovery, Because I think
01:12:48,137 --> 01:12:50,854
Marc Preston: they were some of the most wise people that
01:12:50,915 --> 01:12:51,617
Marc Preston: I ever met.
01:12:52,178 --> 01:12:53,442
Marc Preston: Some of the best wisdom I've ever gotten
01:12:53,482 --> 01:12:54,405
Marc Preston: has been through people that have been
01:12:54,505 --> 01:12:55,329
Marc Preston: through it, you know.
01:12:55,409 --> 01:12:57,860
Marc Preston: So I think that that's that's one of those
01:12:57,900 --> 01:12:59,045
Marc Preston: things that I really have come to
01:12:59,146 --> 01:13:00,614
Marc Preston: appreciate over the years is like I didn't
01:13:00,654 --> 01:13:02,143
Marc Preston: have to take the ride, but I most certainly
01:13:02,163 --> 01:13:02,906
Marc Preston: appreciate yours.
01:13:03,086 --> 01:13:04,850
Marc Preston: You know if that makes any sense, hopefully.
01:13:05,071 --> 01:13:06,133
Andrew Zimmern: Yep absolutely.
01:13:06,875 --> 01:13:08,747
Marc Preston: One last question before we go what's going
01:13:08,767 --> 01:13:10,011
Marc Preston: on with delis in America?
01:13:10,532 --> 01:13:11,555
Marc Preston: Is it my imagination?
01:13:11,736 --> 01:13:13,971
Marc Preston: Or everywhere I go is like they're less and
01:13:14,051 --> 01:13:15,276
Marc Preston: less Jewish delis.
01:13:16,039 --> 01:13:17,786
Andrew Zimmern: There are and the ones that are being
01:13:17,906 --> 01:13:20,911
Andrew Zimmern: opened are our modernist takes on them.
01:13:21,191 --> 01:13:23,535
Andrew Zimmern: Some excellent, some excellent.
01:13:24,457 --> 01:13:28,309
Andrew Zimmern: However we are, we have lost during covid
01:13:28,429 --> 01:13:31,776
Andrew Zimmern: so many and we continue to lose so many
01:13:31,816 --> 01:13:33,659
Andrew Zimmern: delis all the time, and they are.
01:13:33,905 --> 01:13:37,636
Andrew Zimmern: They will be a thing of eras past.
01:13:37,716 --> 01:13:38,458
Marc Preston: I mean, you think so.
01:13:38,879 --> 01:13:39,782
Marc Preston: Do you really think like?
01:13:40,042 --> 01:13:42,568
Andrew Zimmern: yeah, I think places like Katz's will hang
01:13:42,849 --> 01:13:46,416
Andrew Zimmern: on, and you know, you know like canter is a
01:13:46,436 --> 01:13:48,506
Andrew Zimmern: lot of other yeah exactly.
01:13:48,587 --> 01:13:50,331
Andrew Zimmern: I mean, you know that will still be there,
01:13:51,734 --> 01:13:54,026
Andrew Zimmern: but we were losing a lot of those, those
01:13:54,066 --> 01:13:57,195
Andrew Zimmern: little delis around the country that are
01:13:57,255 --> 01:13:59,762
Andrew Zimmern: exquisite and I just think it's.
01:13:59,802 --> 01:14:01,889
Andrew Zimmern: They can't compete and people don't want to
01:14:01,929 --> 01:14:02,110
Andrew Zimmern: pay.
01:14:03,014 --> 01:14:04,239
Andrew Zimmern: They don't want to pay $30.
01:14:04,319 --> 01:14:05,685
Andrew Zimmern: Well, they don't want to pay $30 for a
01:14:05,805 --> 01:14:07,530
Andrew Zimmern: sandwich, and I'm not talking about, you
01:14:07,570 --> 01:14:08,553
Andrew Zimmern: know, overstuffed.
01:14:08,593 --> 01:14:10,526
Andrew Zimmern: It's just that the quality of the product
01:14:11,027 --> 01:14:15,135
Andrew Zimmern: has to be very, very high and it takes just
01:14:15,215 --> 01:14:17,599
Andrew Zimmern: as much labor, if not more, to create that.
01:14:17,685 --> 01:14:20,658
Andrew Zimmern: Then I mean, look, every these days, with
01:14:20,678 --> 01:14:22,244
Andrew Zimmern: the restaurant economy and the economy in
01:14:22,264 --> 01:14:24,190
Andrew Zimmern: general being the way it is, every famous
01:14:24,230 --> 01:14:25,954
Andrew Zimmern: chef in the world wants to open a pizzeria.
01:14:26,235 --> 01:14:26,556
Andrew Zimmern: Why?
01:14:26,816 --> 01:14:28,710
Andrew Zimmern: It's the best food cost item that you can
01:14:28,750 --> 01:14:32,141
Andrew Zimmern: make, you know, and delis are not the best
01:14:32,683 --> 01:14:33,806
Andrew Zimmern: food cost items you can make.
01:14:34,067 --> 01:14:36,352
Marc Preston: Well, andrew, again your generosity, your
01:14:36,372 --> 01:14:36,692
Marc Preston: time.
01:14:36,713 --> 01:14:39,686
Marc Preston: I so enjoy this chat and I wish you nothing
01:14:39,726 --> 01:14:41,070
Marc Preston: but the best next time you're in New
01:14:41,170 --> 01:14:41,531
Marc Preston: Orleans.
01:14:42,132 --> 01:14:43,997
Andrew Zimmern: R&O's and then Diney's next door.
01:14:44,466 --> 01:14:45,873
Marc Preston: You hit the local note right there Double
01:14:45,994 --> 01:14:47,260
Marc Preston: up Lunch one, lunch two?
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:48,405
Marc Preston: It would definitely be on me.
01:14:48,505 --> 01:14:49,267
Marc Preston: It'd be my pleasure.
01:14:49,287 --> 01:14:51,072
Marc Preston: But, my friend, all the best to you and
01:14:51,092 --> 01:14:52,977
Marc Preston: looking forward to your new show.
01:14:53,097 --> 01:14:54,389
Marc Preston: On is the outdoor channel.
01:14:54,730 --> 01:14:57,579
Andrew Zimmern: Yep Wild Game Kitchen Premieres September
01:14:57,659 --> 01:14:59,325
Andrew Zimmern: 19th at nine o'clock Eastern.
01:14:59,506 --> 01:15:02,036
Marc Preston: Family dinner, of course, on Magnolia,
01:15:02,498 --> 01:15:04,044
Marc Preston: loving your stuff, my friend, have yourself
01:15:04,104 --> 01:15:04,826
Marc Preston: a killer rest of day.
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Andrew Zimmern: Hopefully this is another one of those
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Andrew Zimmern: great days for you, me too Take it easy,
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Andrew Zimmern: and for you as well.
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Marc Preston: Well, there you go, andrew Zimmer.
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Marc Preston: That was.
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Marc Preston: That was a lot of fun.
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Marc Preston: As I mentioned at the beginning of the show,
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Marc Preston: I didn't have anything to eat, so you know,
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Marc Preston: talking food for an hour with Andrew was.
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Marc Preston: It was fun, but, man, I was hungry when I
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Marc Preston: was done Really enjoyed the opportunity to
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Marc Preston: sit down with him.
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Marc Preston: The new show's Magnolia Network you can
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Marc Preston: catch family dinner, as well as the show
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Marc Preston: Wild Game Kitchen, which is on the outdoor
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Marc Preston: channel, and, of course, the Netflix reboot
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Marc Preston: of Iron Chef.
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Marc Preston: You can check out Andrew as he's one of the
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Marc Preston: judges A gig.
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Marc Preston: I've always wanted to have A judge on Iron
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Marc Preston: Chef.
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Marc Preston: That seems like it would be a lot of fun.
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Marc Preston: Also got to throw a quick happy birthday to
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Marc Preston: my son, zachary Just turned 18.
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Marc Preston: So so incredibly proud of him.
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Marc Preston: Now I got two of those adult type offspring.
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Marc Preston: So that means that to college kids they're
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Marc Preston: getting older.
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Marc Preston: I somehow miraculously stay the same age.
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Marc Preston: That's what I'm telling myself.
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Marc Preston: All right, don't forget to subscribe and
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Marc Preston: like the show on your favorite podcast app.
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Marc Preston: A little review, if you would Apple
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Marc Preston: podcasts or whatever app that you use.
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Marc Preston: Of course, going to be back with another
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Marc Preston: great episode soon with somebody very
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Marc Preston: interesting.
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Marc Preston: Just going to throw it out there.
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Marc Preston: If you are a big Ghostbusters fan, check
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Marc Preston: out the next episode.
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Marc Preston: Just a little tease, if you will.
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Marc Preston: All right, that's it for me today.
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Marc Preston: I'm going to run out and grab myself a bite
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Marc Preston: to eat.
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Marc Preston: You have a very safe and awesome rest of
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Marc Preston: your day.
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Marc Preston: We'll see you next time right here on Story
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Marc Preston: and Craft.
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TV Personality | Chef | Writer | Social Justice Advocate
Andrew Zimmern is an Emmy-winning and four-time James Beard Award-winning TV personality, chef, writer and social justice advocate. As the creator, executive producer and host of the Bizarre Foods franchise, Andrew Zimmern’s Driven by Food and Emmy-winning The Zimmern List, he has devoted his life to exploring and promoting cultural acceptance, tolerance and understanding through food. In 2020, Andrew returned to television with MSNBC’s What's Eating America, and in 2021, he premiered Family Dinner on Magnolia Network. This year, you can find him judging the epic culinary battle Iron Chef: Quest for an Iron Legend on Netflix and on Outdoor Channel’s Andrew Zimmern’s Wild Game Kitchen.
A Taste of the Good—and Bad— Life
Andrew knew from a young age he wanted a career in food. After attending The Dalton School and Vassar College, he cooked in New York City restaurants for Anne Rosenzweig, Joachim Splichal and Thomas Keller, amongst others. Andrew helped open and run a dozen restaurants, and at the same time was also an addict spiraling out of control. After a year spent living on the streets, an intervention by close friends brought him to the Hazelden Foundation in Minnesota. Transforming his life around sobriety, Andrew took a job washing dishes at Minneapolis’ Café Un Deux Trois. In 1992, he was named executive chef and during his six-year tenure, turned Un Deux Trois into an awarded, national caliber restaurant.
Making Moves in the Media
Andrew's menu at Un Deux Trois drew the attention of media. Local news appearances led to regular TV…
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