On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with James Beard and Emmy award-winning television host, chef, and world traveler, Andrew Zimmern. We know Andrew from his work on Food Network, Cooking Channel, Travel Channel and MSNBC shows, Bizarre Foods, The Zimmern List and What’s Eating America. Listen in as we cover the expanse of his career, his early struggles, and his friendly rivalry with Anthony Bourdain. Andrew shares his insights on creating something special in both his personal and professional life, while also taking us on a journey through his much-loved shows and his fascinating travels around the world.
We also explore the rich tapestry of Andrew's family traditions and cultural experiences. From his son's upbringing to his experience with the Sakalava tribe in Africa, his stories are both engaging and insightful. We even get a glimpse of his new show “Family Dinner” on the Magnolia Network, Discovery+ and Max, and Marc’s quest to recreate his grandmother's kugel recipe.
The conversation takes another interesting turn as we discuss the transformative power of travel and the influences it has had on Andrew's life and career. From his privileged upbringing in Manhattan to his journey to homelessness, addiction, and ultimately sobriety, Andrew's story is truly compelling. Finally, we reflect on the tragic death of Anthony Bourdain, discuss the unique culinary delights of New Orleans, and chat about Andrew's new show on the Outdoor Channel, “Wild Game Kitchen”. Tune in for a delicious and insightful conversation with Andrew Zimmern!
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
0:07:39 - Celebrating Family Through Food
0:13:17 - Learning, Transformation, and Travel Experiences
0:21:32 - Exploring Portland, Maine With Andrew’s Dad
0:24:08 - Finding Passion in the Culinary World
0:30:41 - Storytelling and Cultural Exploration
0:31:51 - The Responsibility of the Camera Person
0:41:29 - Reflecting on Anthony Bourdain's Death
0:48:49 - New Orleans Food and Dining Discussion
1:08:59 - Alternative Career Paths and Public Office
1:13:07 - Decline of Jewish Delis in America
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This is, this is what's so great about life.
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Andrew Zimmern: Someone says to you oh, have you been to
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Andrew Zimmern: It's like, well, no, I haven't because I
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Andrew Zimmern: don't live there.
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Andrew Zimmern: So whenever I go, I go to R&O's.
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Andrew Zimmern: I'm not going there to go to the place next
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Announcer: Welcome to story and craft.
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Announcer: Now.
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Announcer: There's your host, Marc Preston.
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Marc Preston: Hey, how you doing?
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Marc Preston: Welcome back another episode of story and
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Marc Preston: My name is Marc Preston and today a Great
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Marc Preston: He is a James Beard and Emmy award-winning
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Marc Preston: He's a world traveler.
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Marc Preston: You've seen him in bizarre foods the
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Marc Preston: Zimmern list what's eating America?
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Marc Preston: Really great chat.
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Marc Preston: What are we eating today?
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Marc Preston: when you, when things really you know, you
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Marc Preston: feel like you have your hands off the
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Marc Preston: steering wheel and whatever evolves in your
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Marc Preston: life, you can empathize with other people
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Marc Preston: much easier.
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Marc Preston: Is that accurate in your experience?
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Andrew Zimmern: I actually think it's an understatement.
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Andrew Zimmern: I think you know and Joseph Campbell wrote
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Andrew Zimmern: about this in the hero's journey.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, a lot of people have, and I'm no
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Andrew Zimmern: hero, I am it, you know.
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Andrew Zimmern: But you know Campbell's theory, and I think
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Andrew Zimmern: it's true and has been widely accepted.
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Andrew Zimmern: Now, as when you've been through the fire,
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Andrew Zimmern: you know, when you have had the Phoenix
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Andrew Zimmern: experience and coming back from tragedy and
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Andrew Zimmern: rising from ashes, If you survive, you have
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Andrew Zimmern: a skill set that other people don't have.
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Andrew Zimmern: It's pure and simple, and I've had this,
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Andrew Zimmern: you know.
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Andrew Zimmern: I've studied this now, for you know,
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Andrew Zimmern: anecdotally, for 30 some odd years, and it
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Andrew Zimmern: is, it's universally true.
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Andrew Zimmern: And I think, for you know, some people have
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Andrew Zimmern: to go through what I did.
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Andrew Zimmern: That was a pretty low bottom.
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Andrew Zimmern: Other people don't need to have as low a
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Andrew Zimmern: bottom, but it is a transformative
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Andrew Zimmern: experience and if it doesn't make you more
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Andrew Zimmern: I'll just use your words empathetic with
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Andrew Zimmern: the human condition around the world, more
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Andrew Zimmern: in tune with the trials and tribulations of
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Andrew Zimmern: your fellow man, I think you've wasted
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Andrew Zimmern: life's greatest lesson.
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Marc Preston: Now, you had all those experiences, but
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Marc Preston: travel was something you were doing even
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Marc Preston: when you were younger.
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Marc Preston: I seem to remember an episode of your
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Marc Preston: father.
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Marc Preston: He went somewhere in France, or it could
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Marc Preston: have been in Spain.
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Marc Preston: It was somewhere and, you see, your father
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Marc Preston: would had taken you there when you were
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Marc Preston: younger and, and I believe you'd even
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Marc Preston: brought him back, if I'm not mistaken on my
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Marc Preston: memory.
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Andrew Zimmern: you're correct that, no, no, no, you're
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Andrew Zimmern: absolutely correct and you know I
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Andrew Zimmern: referenced this a lot.
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Andrew Zimmern: I was lucky enough to travel around the
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Andrew Zimmern: world several times with my dad.
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Andrew Zimmern: He was one of the people responsible for
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Andrew Zimmern: running an international you know
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Andrew Zimmern: advertising agency and we traveled a lot
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Andrew Zimmern: and he loved to travel, to eat and eat to
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Andrew Zimmern: travel.
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Andrew Zimmern: So even when we weren't working although I
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Andrew Zimmern: went on a lot of work trips with him, it
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Andrew Zimmern: was, you know we also went on a lot of fun
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Andrew Zimmern: trips as well.
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Andrew Zimmern: Every year we love to ski, so we would go
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Andrew Zimmern: every year to Europe, ski somewhere for a
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Andrew Zimmern: week or 10 days, then go visit a city for
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Andrew Zimmern: four or five days.
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Andrew Zimmern: So, and yes, very famously, as a five year
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Andrew Zimmern: old, I've sat in you know the place for all
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Andrew Zimmern: the seafood trading where the boats came in
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Andrew Zimmern: in Paris, on the river, you know, picking
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Andrew Zimmern: big or no and drinking pasties.
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Andrew Zimmern: At eight or nine years old, while my dad
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Andrew Zimmern: was doing a, having a business dinner three
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Andrew Zimmern: tables over, reading my book and not
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Andrew Zimmern: understanding why I was so flushed and
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Andrew Zimmern: giddy, I sat with him in a humble taverna
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Andrew Zimmern: outside of Valladolos Cayetos in Spain
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Andrew Zimmern: where, ironically, franco is buried now,
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Andrew Zimmern: but this restaurant under the Roman
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Andrew Zimmern: Aqueduct there, and you know, they walk up
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Andrew Zimmern: to you and they basically ask you lamb or
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Andrew Zimmern: pig, and you pick one and then all the
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Andrew Zimmern: other courses come before it, but at the
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Andrew Zimmern: end out comes a newborn lamb or pig, piglet
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Andrew Zimmern: and cooked, and you eat the whole thing.
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Andrew Zimmern: That's your portion is this small roasted
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Andrew Zimmern: animal.
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Andrew Zimmern: And what preceded it were Angulas, these
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Andrew Zimmern: tiny little Elvers, baby eels that swim
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Andrew Zimmern: from the Sargasso Sea up into the rivers
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Andrew Zimmern: where they will grow and become very large
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Andrew Zimmern: freshwater eels.
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Andrew Zimmern: And you know, this was the experience of my
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Andrew Zimmern: childhood.
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Andrew Zimmern: My father gave that to me on trip after
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Andrew Zimmern: trip after trip after trip.
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Andrew Zimmern: So it's no wonder why I eventually got into
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Andrew Zimmern: doing what I do, because I'm just a paler
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Andrew Zimmern: version of him.
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Andrew Zimmern: And yes, you are.
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Andrew Zimmern: You are also correct, we at one point.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, when you start in television you
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Andrew Zimmern: don't call any shots at all, you just say
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Andrew Zimmern: yes to everything and show up, and then, if
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Andrew Zimmern: the show is successful, it all kind of
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Andrew Zimmern: flips around, everyone's asking you, and I
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Andrew Zimmern: think it was season two or three.
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Andrew Zimmern: I told the producers we're going to do a
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Andrew Zimmern: show in Portland, maine, and we're going to
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Andrew Zimmern: do it with my dad and let him show me his
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Andrew Zimmern: town that he was living in at the at the
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Andrew Zimmern: time and what was that we're from?
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Andrew Zimmern: or that's where he, no he spent the last 12
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Andrew Zimmern: years of his life there.
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Andrew Zimmern: He wanted to move.
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Andrew Zimmern: He was born in Bred, new York City in the
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Andrew Zimmern: late 40s, got a house out in Long Island so
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Andrew Zimmern: he had a summer place out there and then it
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Andrew Zimmern: just became too crowded for him.
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Andrew Zimmern: So in his 70s, you know, he and his partner
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Andrew Zimmern: moved up to Portland, maine, and lived
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Andrew Zimmern: there for 10, 12 years before both of them
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Andrew Zimmern: passed.
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Andrew Zimmern: And it was an amazing time to actually have
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Andrew Zimmern: a show where I got to shoot with him.
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Andrew Zimmern: And at the very end we're at this big party
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Andrew Zimmern: tasting a whole bunch of local strange
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Andrew Zimmern: things that we shot on.
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Andrew Zimmern: A friend of his friend of his has an island
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Andrew Zimmern: there.
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Andrew Zimmern: It sounds very bougie, but you know they're
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Andrew Zimmern: in Maine.
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Andrew Zimmern: There's a lot of little tiny islands and
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Andrew Zimmern: they're passed from family to family.
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Andrew Zimmern: And he knew someone who had a small humble
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Andrew Zimmern: place in the Bay and we shot there and I
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Andrew Zimmern: got my son in the show.
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Andrew Zimmern: So at one point my son, my father and I are
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Andrew Zimmern: all eating and I remember that vividly
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Andrew Zimmern: because I mean, if I got hit by a bus
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Andrew Zimmern: tomorrow, I've immortalized the three of us
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Andrew Zimmern: together chowing down.
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Andrew Zimmern: So I'm pretty happy with that.
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Marc Preston: You know, it kind of brings it back to what
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Marc Preston: you were saying about your Magnolia Channel
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Marc Preston: show.
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Marc Preston: It's it's like you can do all these really
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Marc Preston: wonderful, sometimes extravagant, or really
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Marc Preston: amazing, amazing opportunities.
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Marc Preston: But what re in my, my youngest daughter
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Marc Preston: gets so mad at me because I'm always taking
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Marc Preston: pictures like daddy, really, please, just
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Marc Preston: the one teenager on earth that doesn't post
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Marc Preston: to Instagram.
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Marc Preston: But anyway, the I'm like, I'm like I want
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Marc Preston: this.
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Marc Preston: You know, this is important to me.
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Marc Preston: You know we were on a cruise a few weeks
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Marc Preston: ago.
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Marc Preston: She gave me a little more latitude.
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Marc Preston: I was allowed to take more pictures, you
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Marc Preston: know.
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Marc Preston: But you know, getting the multi generation,
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Marc Preston: the family, together there.
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Marc Preston: Were you noticing that your son was into it,
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Marc Preston: or is he kind of like, oh God, here's dad
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Marc Preston: doing his?
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Andrew Zimmern: thing again.
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Andrew Zimmern: Three.
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, he was like three or four.
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Andrew Zimmern: He loved being in the show when he was
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Andrew Zimmern: little and I think if we tried today he
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Andrew Zimmern: would.
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Andrew Zimmern: He would not be.
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Andrew Zimmern: I said he's 1717.
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Marc Preston: So I got one of those.
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Marc Preston: Also just started his freshman year at
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Marc Preston: Loyola when you were kind of coming around
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Marc Preston: and and you're in Minnesota, you're hitting
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Marc Preston: the reset button.
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Marc Preston: What pulled you into the culinary world?
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Marc Preston: What?
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Marc Preston: What was the genesis of?
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Marc Preston: I mean, was that even your original plan
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Marc Preston: when you're going to college?
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, it had been.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, I went to college because my
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Andrew Zimmern: father said, well, I'll back up.
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Andrew Zimmern: When I was four, I cooked with my
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Andrew Zimmern: grandmother as a young child, with my mom
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Andrew Zimmern: and dad as an older child, and I had an
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Andrew Zimmern: aptitude for it and, you know, my dad
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Andrew Zimmern: taught me what to do.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know that no one called it foraging you.
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Andrew Zimmern: Just, you know it was the 60s.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know you threw a line in the water and
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Andrew Zimmern: caught a striped bass.
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Andrew Zimmern: You went down to the jetty and pulled
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Andrew Zimmern: muscles.
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Andrew Zimmern: You, you raked clams on a cloudy morning.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, we, we, I mean, this was what we
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Andrew Zimmern: did in the summertime.
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Andrew Zimmern: And so I learned how to do and loved food,
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Andrew Zimmern: so that when my father said, you know, when
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Andrew Zimmern: the spring were preceding my 14th birthday,
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Andrew Zimmern: which is in the summer, he said I hope, you
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Andrew Zimmern: know, there's no more allowance.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know what are you going to do for a
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Andrew Zimmern: summer job?
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Andrew Zimmern: And I said work in restaurants.
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Andrew Zimmern: I knew right away what I wanted to do and
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Andrew Zimmern: all my other friends were working at the
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Andrew Zimmern: landscape company or at the gas station or
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Andrew Zimmern: at the superMarcet, and I worked in
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Andrew Zimmern: restaurants.
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Andrew Zimmern: And we were lucky.
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Andrew Zimmern: We had a friend who owned a seafood
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Andrew Zimmern: restaurant who was willing to hire me and
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Andrew Zimmern: that's where I went.
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Andrew Zimmern: It was called the quiet clam on Montauk
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Andrew Zimmern: Highway, just as you entered the village of
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Andrew Zimmern: East Hampton and I worked there summers in
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Andrew Zimmern: high school and begged my parents to work
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Andrew Zimmern: odd nights during the school year in New
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Andrew Zimmern: York to be in restaurants and they let me
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Andrew Zimmern: do that.
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Andrew Zimmern: And so the dye was I knew when I was six
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Andrew Zimmern: years old I wanted to work in food.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, that was accepted by my family.
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Marc Preston: But how lucky, how lucky are you, though,
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Marc Preston: that that because I had the similar
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Marc Preston: experience.
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Marc Preston: I remember going I want to do this thing.
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Marc Preston: For me it was radio or acting or you know,
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Marc Preston: but I knew every time I tried to push and
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Marc Preston: go some other direction.
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Marc Preston: I went to a really good high school and
689
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Marc Preston: maybe medicine.
690
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Marc Preston: You know Jewish play.
691
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Marc Preston: You know be a good shot, be a Jewish doctor.
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Marc Preston: You know, I was like it just didn't light
693
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Marc Preston: my fire.
694
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Marc Preston: I just knew and I think I consider anybody
695
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Marc Preston: that's got that it can be a bumpy road, but
696
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Marc Preston: it's it's.
697
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Marc Preston: It's really lucky when you can bring that
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Marc Preston: to fruition.
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Andrew Zimmern: New, always knew what I wanted to do and
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Andrew Zimmern: you know, my father encouraged it in a
701
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Andrew Zimmern: sense, but he said don't pass up college.
702
00:26:38,602 --> 00:26:40,766
Andrew Zimmern: He said, even if you want to be the, you
703
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Andrew Zimmern: know the own restaurants, or be a chef or
704
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Andrew Zimmern: whatever you want to do, learning to read,
705
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Andrew Zimmern: write and think critically at a higher
706
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Andrew Zimmern: level is really important.
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Andrew Zimmern: And so I went to.
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Andrew Zimmern: I went to college and he was right because
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Andrew Zimmern: ultimately once I mean I wasted a lot of my
710
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Andrew Zimmern: time in college but ultimately my my
711
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Andrew Zimmern: storytelling capability, my style of
712
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Andrew Zimmern: storytelling, I learned studying art
713
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Andrew Zimmern: history at Vaster College.
714
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Andrew Zimmern: From the first day of art history 101, when
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Andrew Zimmern: Dr Susan Koretzki put the first slide up of
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Andrew Zimmern: the first class of my freshman year, I
717
00:27:31,814 --> 00:27:34,019
Andrew Zimmern: learned a way of deciphering the world.
718
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Andrew Zimmern: She put up a painting Northern Renaissance,
719
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Andrew Zimmern: late 16th century and she asked everyone in
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Andrew Zimmern: the class to write down what they saw in
721
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Andrew Zimmern: the painting and what it meant.
722
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Andrew Zimmern: And everyone wrote down chair, table, dog,
723
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Andrew Zimmern: bowl of fruit, window, hat, scarf, dress,
724
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Andrew Zimmern: necklace.
725
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Andrew Zimmern: And then she asked for everyone to read
726
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Andrew Zimmern: their list, three or four.
727
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Andrew Zimmern: Everyone had the same thing and you could
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Andrew Zimmern: tell halfway through.
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Andrew Zimmern: This was her class one slide, one setup for
730
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Andrew Zimmern: the year.
731
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Andrew Zimmern: And she then stepped back and spent a half
732
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Andrew Zimmern: an hour telling us everything about late to
733
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Andrew Zimmern: 16th century Flemish life there.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, no one had noticed that in the
735
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Andrew Zimmern: fruit bowl was a banana.
736
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Andrew Zimmern: But bananas don't grow in what is now
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Andrew Zimmern: Holland, so it had to have come from
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Andrew Zimmern: somewhere else, right?
739
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Andrew Zimmern: And so it indicated the wealth of the
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Andrew Zimmern: family.
741
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Andrew Zimmern: And she just went on and on and on Sherlock
742
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Andrew Zimmern: Holmes.
743
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, it was like a locked room.
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Marc Preston: I was literally about to say that.
745
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Marc Preston: Yeah.
746
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, you know, it's like Hercules Poirot
747
00:28:43,989 --> 00:28:45,052
Andrew Zimmern: couldn't have done a better job.
748
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Andrew Zimmern: And I found myself 45, 40 years later, 40
749
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Andrew Zimmern: years later, no less, 35 years, whatever.
750
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Andrew Zimmern: I'm in a jungle in Nicaragua.
751
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Andrew Zimmern: I'm shooting the second season of Bizarre
752
00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:03,926
Andrew Zimmern: Foods and I'm in a jungle Marcet and
753
00:29:03,986 --> 00:29:08,397
Andrew Zimmern: someone puts a bowl of very rustic chanfina,
754
00:29:08,525 --> 00:29:10,871
Andrew Zimmern: which is a chopped stew made of organ meat,
755
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Andrew Zimmern: in my hands.
756
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Andrew Zimmern: And we're in a jungle, so I know that it's
757
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Andrew Zimmern: bush meat.
758
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Andrew Zimmern: It's not goat or chicken or whatever.
759
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Andrew Zimmern: It's made with animals that live in the
760
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Andrew Zimmern: forest.
761
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Andrew Zimmern: And these jungle Marcets spring up once a
762
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Andrew Zimmern: week where vendors are bringing all their
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Andrew Zimmern: wares or tribal people convene, and once a
764
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Andrew Zimmern: week or once every two weeks, people can
765
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Andrew Zimmern: trade, exchange news of the day, and
766
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Andrew Zimmern: there's always people cooking so that folks
767
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Andrew Zimmern: can buy food.
768
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Andrew Zimmern: And I started very naturally telling it was
769
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Andrew Zimmern: a real turning point for me in my career.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, I'm not saying that I sucked the
771
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Andrew Zimmern: first year, but I was nowhere near the
772
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Andrew Zimmern: storyteller I was prior to my experience
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Andrew Zimmern: with that bowl of chanfina that I am now.
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Marc Preston: Well, of course, if you think you're just
775
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Marc Preston: as good now as you were back then, or you
776
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Marc Preston: haven't grown at all, so now you can
777
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Marc Preston: actually recognize the growth, that's a
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Marc Preston: good thing.
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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, and you see, I held up the soup and I
780
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Andrew Zimmern: said if you look at the soup, you can tell
781
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Andrew Zimmern: everything about the people here buy it.
782
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Andrew Zimmern: And I started to do what Dr Koretsky did in
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Andrew Zimmern: that art history class long ago, which was
784
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Andrew Zimmern: tell my audience, look into the camera and
785
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Andrew Zimmern: tell them everything about this people and
786
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Andrew Zimmern: this time and this place in this country
787
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Andrew Zimmern: through this bowl of stew.
788
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Andrew Zimmern: And it was a real turning point for me and
789
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Andrew Zimmern: it still is.
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Andrew Zimmern: My favorite form of storytelling is being
791
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Andrew Zimmern: able to, even if it's a cheeseburger at a
792
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Andrew Zimmern: local shop, you can tell a lot about a
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Andrew Zimmern: place and a culture.
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Andrew Zimmern: I have famously said this.
795
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Andrew Zimmern: It's been quoted a lot.
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Andrew Zimmern: I love museums, but I can learn more about
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Andrew Zimmern: a country by going to a local Marcet and
798
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Andrew Zimmern: eating and talking to people that I can by
799
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Andrew Zimmern: going into their local museum.
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Andrew Zimmern: That's for sure.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, one of the things I think you're a
802
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Marc Preston: Jedi knight doing which is, I mean, for
803
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Marc Preston: your vocation is essential is communicating
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Marc Preston: the moment, what it's like aesthetically,
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Marc Preston: what it tastes like.
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Marc Preston: I remember you got the little shelfish, the
807
00:31:20,573 --> 00:31:22,889
Marc Preston: OPI, I think, kind of like a salty
808
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Marc Preston: something, gummy bear.
809
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Marc Preston: How have you described it?
810
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Marc Preston: I'm like, OK, I get a feeling for what?
811
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Marc Preston: That it's the most random description.
812
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Marc Preston: But I think what you do wonderfully is
813
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Marc Preston: really transport people and I think that
814
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Marc Preston: kind of going back to where you're
815
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Marc Preston: discussing before, is how much is it moving
816
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Marc Preston: the needle culturally on, kind of opening
817
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Marc Preston: people up to other people and ideas?
818
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Marc Preston: I think it certainly helps.
819
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Marc Preston: I think being able to be a very capable
820
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Marc Preston: storyteller is your part and parcel.
821
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Marc Preston: That's what you do.
822
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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, but a lot of people do.
823
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Andrew Zimmern: This is what's fascinating to me.
824
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Andrew Zimmern: So many other folks forget that there is
825
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Andrew Zimmern: someone on the other side of the camera
826
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Andrew Zimmern: watching six months later and they're not
827
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Andrew Zimmern: going to hear the rain in the distance or
828
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Andrew Zimmern: smell the loamy, earthy, mildewy smell of
829
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Andrew Zimmern: that jungle.
830
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Andrew Zimmern: They're not going to taste the food,
831
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Andrew Zimmern: they're not going to see the smile on every
832
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Andrew Zimmern: person who's in there.
833
00:32:21,325 --> 00:32:25,075
Andrew Zimmern: So you have to, it's your responsibility to
834
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Andrew Zimmern: tell them You're the avatar for the
835
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Andrew Zimmern: audience.
836
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Andrew Zimmern: I think a lot of people forget that.
837
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Andrew Zimmern: I really do and, by the way, I'm lucky to
838
00:32:32,410 --> 00:32:35,509
Andrew Zimmern: have had amazing mentors and great teachers
839
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Andrew Zimmern: and folks who told me to pay attention to
840
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Andrew Zimmern: that stuff.
841
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Andrew Zimmern: And, yes, is a certain part of it Dye's
842
00:32:45,806 --> 00:32:47,472
Andrew Zimmern: already cast by the time they picked up the
843
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Andrew Zimmern: first camera, because of what happened to
844
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Andrew Zimmern: be the first 33, 34 years of my life.
845
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Andrew Zimmern: Yes, to a certain degree, but some of it's
846
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Andrew Zimmern: actually learned.
847
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Andrew Zimmern: Some of it is paying attention, having
848
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Andrew Zimmern: someone remind you that not only is there
849
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Andrew Zimmern: someone who one day and it could be the
850
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Andrew Zimmern: same viewer.
851
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Andrew Zimmern: So one day, Marc, you're coming to the show
852
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Andrew Zimmern: I make, whatever it is.
853
00:33:13,965 --> 00:33:15,873
Andrew Zimmern: You just had a tough day and you pop a beer
854
00:33:16,025 --> 00:33:17,069
Andrew Zimmern: and you just want to sit down and be
855
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Andrew Zimmern: entertained.
856
00:33:18,065 --> 00:33:20,431
Andrew Zimmern: And then some days you're eager to like,
857
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Andrew Zimmern: hey, whoever's in the house, come take a
858
00:33:24,569 --> 00:33:25,031
Andrew Zimmern: look at this.
859
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Andrew Zimmern: And you sit down and you learn something,
860
00:33:26,845 --> 00:33:28,732
Andrew Zimmern: because it's just really cool and
861
00:33:28,812 --> 00:33:30,872
Andrew Zimmern: fascinating, or maybe just beautiful.
862
00:33:30,985 --> 00:33:32,933
Andrew Zimmern: And you learn a lot about the Faroe Islands,
863
00:33:32,945 --> 00:33:35,013
Andrew Zimmern: because I'm about to die in freezing water
864
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Andrew Zimmern: while Orca's circle our Zodiac boat.
865
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Andrew Zimmern: But no matter what it is, you have to be
866
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Andrew Zimmern: there for all people all the time and not
867
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Andrew Zimmern: ostracize members of your audience.
868
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Marc Preston: Oh, certainly, but I think, with the way
869
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Marc Preston: people come, like you said, the guys just
870
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Marc Preston: maybe pop in a beer, maybe another day
871
00:33:56,177 --> 00:33:57,568
Marc Preston: watch the same episode, maybe he's more
872
00:33:57,689 --> 00:33:59,287
Marc Preston: actively watching it and he's going to pick
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Marc Preston: up on something I know for myself.
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Marc Preston: I think and I don't want to conflate, I
875
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Marc Preston: know I mentioned Anthony Bourdain before, I
876
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Marc Preston: don't want to conflate y'all have two very
877
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Marc Preston: unique voices, but there are so many
878
00:34:09,831 --> 00:34:12,168
Marc Preston: parallels that I think had y'all not had
879
00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:14,647
Marc Preston: the life y'all had, I don't think y'all
880
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Marc Preston: would be as effective and as memorable.
881
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Marc Preston: And I think that you're making all these
882
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Marc Preston: jewel boxes of experiences for people, for
883
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Marc Preston: even the future.
884
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Marc Preston: And I just I always sat down as, like
885
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Marc Preston: thinking I truly enjoy both these guys for
886
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Marc Preston: their own special sauce.
887
00:34:32,485 --> 00:34:34,187
Marc Preston: You know what you have to offer, but there
888
00:34:34,308 --> 00:34:36,728
Marc Preston: are beautiful, wonderful parallels in what
889
00:34:36,748 --> 00:34:37,591
Marc Preston: you're kind of like.
890
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Marc Preston: Did you ever ever speak with Anthony
891
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Marc Preston: Bourdain and go, ok, how are we going to
892
00:34:41,409 --> 00:34:42,393
Marc Preston: differentiate our shows?
893
00:34:42,465 --> 00:34:44,492
Marc Preston: We're out there sort of doing something
894
00:34:44,552 --> 00:34:46,669
Marc Preston: similar and he gives you these wonderful
895
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Marc Preston: gentle ribs going OK, and then I show you
896
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Marc Preston: he's like god, this is something more for
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Marc Preston: Zimmern.
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Marc Preston: You know, you can tell Kind of Kind of.
899
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Andrew Zimmern: It was actually even better than that.
900
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, we both grew up in New York.
901
00:34:58,825 --> 00:35:03,510
Andrew Zimmern: We both were smartasses, we both had, you
902
00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:07,057
Andrew Zimmern: know, different types of addiction issues.
903
00:35:08,365 --> 00:35:10,230
Andrew Zimmern: We both worked in New York at the same time
904
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Andrew Zimmern: as Line Cooks.
905
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Andrew Zimmern: We had both gone to Vassar College.
906
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Andrew Zimmern: He was there a couple years.
907
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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, he was there a couple years before I
908
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Andrew Zimmern: was Well.
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Marc Preston: I know even his father.
910
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Marc Preston: I remember he used to travel with his
911
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Marc Preston: family when he was younger, you know.
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Announcer: I know there was this that's right.
913
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Marc Preston: So please don't.
914
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Marc Preston: I'm certainly not saying y'all are just
915
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Marc Preston: alike.
916
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Marc Preston: I'm not saying that, no, we're very
917
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Marc Preston: different.
918
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Andrew Zimmern: We're very, very different.
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Andrew Zimmern: This is what was fantastic.
920
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Andrew Zimmern: We became friends, but he loved I mean, I
921
00:35:36,329 --> 00:35:39,486
Andrew Zimmern: think he took more pleasure giving me a ton
922
00:35:39,526 --> 00:35:40,449
Andrew Zimmern: of shit about stuff.
923
00:35:42,325 --> 00:35:44,733
Andrew Zimmern: That was his favorite thing because, as he
924
00:35:44,873 --> 00:35:47,429
Andrew Zimmern: often would say, he said, you know, we go,
925
00:35:48,191 --> 00:35:50,797
Andrew Zimmern: you know we both go to the Congo.
926
00:35:51,625 --> 00:35:55,875
Andrew Zimmern: We both eat the same Warthog meal with two
927
00:35:55,915 --> 00:35:56,757
Andrew Zimmern: different tribes.
928
00:35:57,145 --> 00:35:58,810
Andrew Zimmern: I don't know how he does it, because at
929
00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:02,908
Andrew Zimmern: least I get to drink Right, the implication
930
00:36:02,948 --> 00:36:04,785
Andrew Zimmern: being it's easier to eat that stuff if
931
00:36:04,825 --> 00:36:05,548
Andrew Zimmern: you've had a few.
932
00:36:07,986 --> 00:36:09,430
Andrew Zimmern: And you know.
933
00:36:09,471 --> 00:36:11,787
Andrew Zimmern: We explored the world telling our stories
934
00:36:11,807 --> 00:36:17,528
Andrew Zimmern: in much different styles, but we basically
935
00:36:17,568 --> 00:36:21,390
Andrew Zimmern: did the same job and he would sometimes
936
00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:25,645
Andrew Zimmern: call me or send me a text or an email with
937
00:36:25,685 --> 00:36:28,956
Andrew Zimmern: like, yep, I'm going to such and such,
938
00:36:29,025 --> 00:36:30,550
Andrew Zimmern: because he knew that we were trying to get
939
00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:33,967
Andrew Zimmern: in to that country too, and he took
940
00:36:34,308 --> 00:36:38,169
Andrew Zimmern: tremendous pleasure it actually became an
941
00:36:38,269 --> 00:36:41,891
Andrew Zimmern: epic part of his story in landing the
942
00:36:41,972 --> 00:36:44,966
Andrew Zimmern: Beirut show while we were trying to, and I
943
00:36:45,027 --> 00:36:47,374
Andrew Zimmern: took great pleasure in beating him to Cuba
944
00:36:48,006 --> 00:36:51,310
Andrew Zimmern: and to Syria, and he took great pleasure in
945
00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:55,731
Andrew Zimmern: beating me into Iran, and then it closed
946
00:36:55,771 --> 00:36:56,052
Andrew Zimmern: down.
947
00:36:56,185 --> 00:36:57,550
Andrew Zimmern: We were actually on our way.
948
00:36:58,225 --> 00:36:59,990
Andrew Zimmern: We're using the same fixer there, jason
949
00:37:00,031 --> 00:37:02,367
Andrew Zimmern: Rezaian, who is now with the Washington
950
00:37:02,428 --> 00:37:06,430
Andrew Zimmern: Post, and three weeks before we were
951
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:11,447
Andrew Zimmern: leaving for Tehran, the country closed to
952
00:37:11,468 --> 00:37:16,408
Andrew Zimmern: Americans and Jason was imprisoned, so we
953
00:37:16,449 --> 00:37:17,774
Andrew Zimmern: had a lot to talk about.
954
00:37:17,825 --> 00:37:20,854
Andrew Zimmern: Then we were both parents of kids the same
955
00:37:21,094 --> 00:37:23,169
Andrew Zimmern: age who traveled and never saw our kids.
956
00:37:25,105 --> 00:37:26,852
Andrew Zimmern: We both had experienced divorce.
957
00:37:27,005 --> 00:37:28,952
Andrew Zimmern: We both had experienced so many of the same
958
00:37:29,032 --> 00:37:29,333
Andrew Zimmern: things.
959
00:37:29,845 --> 00:37:32,755
Andrew Zimmern: So as the years went by, we became closer.
960
00:37:32,965 --> 00:37:35,653
Andrew Zimmern: He was an amazing person, the most
961
00:37:35,673 --> 00:37:37,367
Andrew Zimmern: charismatic human being I've ever met.
962
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Marc Preston: I think that the things we talk about
963
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:41,268
Marc Preston: storytelling and I always kind of reference
964
00:37:41,309 --> 00:37:42,826
Marc Preston: him as sort of like one of those guys would
965
00:37:42,846 --> 00:37:44,728
Marc Preston: be a big brother, one guy it's always
966
00:37:44,748 --> 00:37:46,354
Marc Preston: trying to there's wisdom.
967
00:37:46,665 --> 00:37:48,812
Marc Preston: There is that kind of like storytelling
968
00:37:48,912 --> 00:37:49,695
Marc Preston: referencing books.
969
00:37:49,845 --> 00:37:52,669
Marc Preston: I've never read With you.
970
00:37:52,689 --> 00:37:54,595
Marc Preston: There's this infectious enthusiasm.
971
00:37:55,267 --> 00:37:56,691
Marc Preston: It's a definitely have your own brand,
972
00:37:56,752 --> 00:37:58,909
Marc Preston: without a doubt, but I found so many
973
00:37:58,989 --> 00:38:00,869
Marc Preston: parallels and I think that your shows and
974
00:38:00,889 --> 00:38:03,087
Marc Preston: this is not just, in fact, I know your
975
00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:06,090
Marc Preston: shows are important Because if somebody
976
00:38:06,110 --> 00:38:09,167
Marc Preston: sits down and watches it and goes, oh yeah,
977
00:38:09,207 --> 00:38:10,753
Marc Preston: the food is the common denominator, no
978
00:38:10,793 --> 00:38:13,829
Marc Preston: matter what the culture and the irony is.
979
00:38:13,849 --> 00:38:17,408
Marc Preston: You've done US-based shows, but you've been
980
00:38:17,428 --> 00:38:18,706
Marc Preston: all over the world, but I really think
981
00:38:18,787 --> 00:38:22,846
Marc Preston: right now doing the family dinner idea, I
982
00:38:22,906 --> 00:38:24,031
Marc Preston: think that people watch that.
983
00:38:24,105 --> 00:38:25,801
Marc Preston: I think there needs to be a lot more of
984
00:38:25,841 --> 00:38:27,149
Marc Preston: that right now, at least in the US.
985
00:38:28,166 --> 00:38:29,510
Andrew Zimmern: I agree 100%.
986
00:38:31,006 --> 00:38:32,129
Andrew Zimmern: We've never been.
987
00:38:33,191 --> 00:38:36,448
Andrew Zimmern: I don't hide my age at all, I'm 61.
988
00:38:37,726 --> 00:38:40,395
Andrew Zimmern: And there's never been a time in my life
989
00:38:40,465 --> 00:38:42,612
Andrew Zimmern: where I've been more scared about the
990
00:38:42,672 --> 00:38:44,808
Andrew Zimmern: divisive nature of our culture, our
991
00:38:44,888 --> 00:38:48,206
Andrew Zimmern: politics, every factor of American life, or
992
00:38:48,246 --> 00:38:50,113
Andrew Zimmern: the divide between haves and have nots.
993
00:38:50,165 --> 00:38:52,605
Andrew Zimmern: I mean, it's just division and divide, or
994
00:38:52,646 --> 00:38:54,573
Andrew Zimmern: words I could use so much.
995
00:38:54,625 --> 00:38:58,386
Andrew Zimmern: So anything that I can do, I think it's my
996
00:38:58,446 --> 00:38:59,751
Andrew Zimmern: responsibility in a sense.
997
00:39:00,526 --> 00:39:02,446
Andrew Zimmern: When Magnolia came to us and said we want
998
00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:04,493
Andrew Zimmern: an intuitive content show.
999
00:39:04,533 --> 00:39:06,269
Andrew Zimmern: That's my production company, I immediately
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00:39:06,329 --> 00:39:07,193
Andrew Zimmern: said family dinner.
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00:39:07,265 --> 00:39:10,032
Andrew Zimmern: Because we put a family dinner in every
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00:39:10,112 --> 00:39:11,255
Andrew Zimmern: episode of Bizarre Foods.
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00:39:12,465 --> 00:39:14,392
Andrew Zimmern: We didn't label it or circle it, but we put
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00:39:14,532 --> 00:39:16,049
Andrew Zimmern: one in there Because I felt it was
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00:39:16,089 --> 00:39:17,850
Andrew Zimmern: important and I knew it worked.
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00:39:17,885 --> 00:39:19,091
Andrew Zimmern: So I said let's do family dinner.
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00:39:19,125 --> 00:39:20,149
Andrew Zimmern: And then they came back to me a couple
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00:39:20,169 --> 00:39:21,887
Andrew Zimmern: weeks later and said well, we can't imagine
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00:39:21,907 --> 00:39:23,793
Andrew Zimmern: this being hosted by anyone other than you.
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00:39:23,833 --> 00:39:24,435
Andrew Zimmern: Would you do it?
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00:39:24,885 --> 00:39:29,353
Andrew Zimmern: And I said, sure, and it's a fantastic show
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00:39:29,393 --> 00:39:29,775
Andrew Zimmern: that way.
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00:39:31,549 --> 00:39:33,434
Andrew Zimmern: And is it at times a little bit saccharine?
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00:39:33,635 --> 00:39:38,815
Andrew Zimmern: Sure, is it at times extremely revelatory
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00:39:39,416 --> 00:39:41,850
Andrew Zimmern: about who we are and why we do what we do
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00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:44,487
Andrew Zimmern: as human beings, absolutely, and everything
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00:39:44,527 --> 00:39:45,110
Andrew Zimmern: in between.
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00:39:45,525 --> 00:39:48,111
Andrew Zimmern: But I do think it's a show that's ideally
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00:39:48,211 --> 00:39:50,436
Andrew Zimmern: suited for now.
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00:39:51,665 --> 00:39:54,092
Marc Preston: And speaking of the creation, and of course
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00:39:54,172 --> 00:39:57,450
Marc Preston: I narrate TV shows and I understand a lot
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00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:58,434
Marc Preston: of the production process.
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00:39:58,525 --> 00:39:59,946
Marc Preston: I understand the other sizzle reels Trying
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00:39:59,966 --> 00:40:02,849
Marc Preston: to get a show off the ground how many ideas
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00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:04,908
Marc Preston: do you sit down, I mean throughout?
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00:40:04,928 --> 00:40:07,867
Marc Preston: They'll say the span of a year, and I don't
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00:40:07,887 --> 00:40:09,672
Marc Preston: want to say the Marcet's saturated with
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00:40:09,813 --> 00:40:11,990
Marc Preston: food programming, it's just there is a lot
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00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:13,615
Marc Preston: of options and a lot of different flavors
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00:40:13,685 --> 00:40:14,730
Marc Preston: no pun intended out there.
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00:40:15,265 --> 00:40:16,691
Marc Preston: How do you come up with your ideas on the
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00:40:16,711 --> 00:40:17,233
Marc Preston: span of a year?
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00:40:17,325 --> 00:40:18,870
Marc Preston: How many ideas are you coming up with for a
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00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:19,994
Marc Preston: concept for a show?
Speaker:
00:40:20,685 --> 00:40:22,773
Marc Preston: And how do you know, like, yes, this one's
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00:40:22,825 --> 00:40:24,068
Marc Preston: where I'm going to put my heart into this
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00:40:24,189 --> 00:40:24,570
Marc Preston: one thing.
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00:40:30,311 --> 00:40:33,458
Andrew Zimmern: Well, I'm blessed to own a production
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00:40:33,478 --> 00:40:35,510
Andrew Zimmern: company that's a real screen international
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00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:36,413
Andrew Zimmern: 100 company.
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00:40:37,365 --> 00:40:41,334
Andrew Zimmern: The development team that is overt
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00:40:41,394 --> 00:40:45,712
Andrew Zimmern: intuitive, churns ideas on a weekly basis.
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00:40:47,725 --> 00:40:50,347
Andrew Zimmern: Some weeks it's three or four, some weeks
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00:40:50,427 --> 00:40:50,990
Andrew Zimmern: it's 10.
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00:40:51,565 --> 00:40:54,093
Andrew Zimmern: Because a network has asked for a bunch of
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00:40:54,153 --> 00:40:56,850
Andrew Zimmern: log lines on a certain type of show by
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00:40:56,930 --> 00:41:01,411
Andrew Zimmern: request, and so we will come up.
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00:41:02,805 --> 00:41:04,873
Andrew Zimmern: I mean, look, some get discarded the day
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00:41:04,945 --> 00:41:07,908
Andrew Zimmern: after you come up with them, but they will
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00:41:08,048 --> 00:41:12,175
Andrew Zimmern: develop 200 ideas across the course of a
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00:41:12,235 --> 00:41:17,453
Andrew Zimmern: year beyond someone in a meeting saying,
Speaker:
00:41:17,473 --> 00:41:18,336
Andrew Zimmern: hey, what about this?
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00:41:18,545 --> 00:41:20,392
Andrew Zimmern: I mean, science is just one step further
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00:41:20,432 --> 00:41:25,690
Andrew Zimmern: than that, but it's discussed and we're
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00:41:25,790 --> 00:41:28,557
Andrew Zimmern: lucky if five or six of those become shows.
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00:41:29,385 --> 00:41:34,305
Andrew Zimmern: No-transcript.
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00:41:36,572 --> 00:41:38,356
Marc Preston: Just one last question regarding Anthony
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00:41:38,396 --> 00:41:38,817
Marc Preston: Bourdain.
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00:41:39,046 --> 00:41:41,615
Marc Preston: I was curious and naturally, of course, it
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00:41:41,656 --> 00:41:42,619
Marc Preston: was sad, it was difficult.
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00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,470
Marc Preston: But how did you find out and how did it
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00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:46,313
Marc Preston: initially land?
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00:41:46,525 --> 00:41:47,788
Marc Preston: Because I know my daughter called me and
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00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:49,974
Marc Preston: told me I was like it was a very odd day,
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00:41:50,375 --> 00:41:51,687
Marc Preston: to say the very least.
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00:41:51,727 --> 00:41:53,914
Marc Preston: But how did that affect you that day?
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00:41:54,525 --> 00:41:58,334
Andrew Zimmern: Oh, it was, I mean, horrific.
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00:41:59,785 --> 00:42:01,909
Andrew Zimmern: So the night beforehand we had been
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00:42:01,989 --> 00:42:06,097
Andrew Zimmern: shooting until 11 midnight in Philadelphia
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00:42:07,847 --> 00:42:10,233
Andrew Zimmern: and you know we have to give the crew a
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00:42:10,253 --> 00:42:11,396
Andrew Zimmern: certain number of hours off.
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00:42:12,045 --> 00:42:16,514
Andrew Zimmern: So my call time, instead of being 7am, was
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00:42:16,894 --> 00:42:20,389
Andrew Zimmern: 11.30 or noon and so I was sleeping in.
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00:42:21,885 --> 00:42:23,529
Andrew Zimmern: And you know, my alarm goes off at 10,
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00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:24,351
Andrew Zimmern: 10.30.
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00:42:27,227 --> 00:42:30,576
Andrew Zimmern: And you know you hit your, you know my
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00:42:30,676 --> 00:42:31,097
Andrew Zimmern: iPhone.
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00:42:31,158 --> 00:42:33,925
Andrew Zimmern: I hit the off button and up pops my home
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00:42:34,066 --> 00:42:40,313
Andrew Zimmern: screen and there are what appear to be
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00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:45,046
Andrew Zimmern: hundreds of alerts and messages and I
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00:42:45,106 --> 00:42:49,187
Andrew Zimmern: immediately panicked Because the only
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00:42:49,248 --> 00:42:50,734
Andrew Zimmern: reason I could think of that there would be
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00:42:50,854 --> 00:42:54,086
Andrew Zimmern: that much traffic on my phone would be if
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00:42:54,126 --> 00:42:55,510
Andrew Zimmern: something had happened to my child and
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00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:56,653
Andrew Zimmern: people were trying to get a hold of me.
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00:42:59,007 --> 00:43:02,294
Andrew Zimmern: And I grabbed it and there's like phone
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00:43:02,314 --> 00:43:04,185
Andrew Zimmern: message, phone message, phone message, and
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00:43:04,386 --> 00:43:05,854
Andrew Zimmern: some of them were friends of mine that were
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00:43:05,914 --> 00:43:08,105
Andrew Zimmern: reporters, and I was, but they were food
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00:43:08,346 --> 00:43:12,134
Andrew Zimmern: side, and then I saw that, then the see it,
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00:43:12,174 --> 00:43:13,801
Andrew Zimmern: then the alerts from the news.
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00:43:13,925 --> 00:43:15,169
Marc Preston: And your brain's trying to put together
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00:43:15,229 --> 00:43:16,853
Marc Preston: quickly what is going on in this.
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00:43:16,874 --> 00:43:17,475
Marc Preston: What's going on?
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00:43:18,446 --> 00:43:21,310
Andrew Zimmern: And I saw that you know I think I forget
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00:43:21,631 --> 00:43:26,699
Andrew Zimmern: which news group I subscribed to so many
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00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,909
Andrew Zimmern: came up, were the first line, because you
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00:43:28,929 --> 00:43:31,796
Andrew Zimmern: only see a little snippet said Anthony
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00:43:31,836 --> 00:43:33,228
Andrew Zimmern: Bourdain, dead at age.
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00:43:34,726 --> 00:43:39,566
Andrew Zimmern: And I, I just I was in shock and so I
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00:43:39,726 --> 00:43:42,893
Andrew Zimmern: opened up my phone and I saw that several
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00:43:44,075 --> 00:43:45,619
Andrew Zimmern: reporters that I knew had called me.
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00:43:45,725 --> 00:43:52,516
Andrew Zimmern: I called one of them back and I said you,
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00:43:52,677 --> 00:43:54,059
Andrew Zimmern: you left me a message.
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00:43:54,926 --> 00:43:56,952
Andrew Zimmern: I said I just woke up what happened.
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00:43:58,165 --> 00:44:01,587
Andrew Zimmern: And they filled me in and I wound up.
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00:44:03,091 --> 00:44:05,055
Andrew Zimmern: I then called our producers who were with
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00:44:05,135 --> 00:44:05,957
Andrew Zimmern: me in Philadelphia.
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00:44:06,285 --> 00:44:07,491
Andrew Zimmern: They had, they knew it.
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00:44:07,605 --> 00:44:09,313
Andrew Zimmern: They had found out an hour earlier when
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00:44:09,334 --> 00:44:11,364
Andrew Zimmern: they got up and they were like, look, if
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00:44:11,404 --> 00:44:13,350
Andrew Zimmern: you want to take the day off, we'll just,
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00:44:14,212 --> 00:44:15,576
Andrew Zimmern: we'll just cancel today's shoot.
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00:44:15,685 --> 00:44:16,869
Andrew Zimmern: And I'm like, absolutely not.
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00:44:20,047 --> 00:44:21,210
Andrew Zimmern: And he had given.
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00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:22,994
Andrew Zimmern: I gave him a lot of shit about some of his
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00:44:23,054 --> 00:44:25,591
Andrew Zimmern: shoes and he had given me a pair of shoes.
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00:44:25,645 --> 00:44:27,912
Marc Preston: I actually had them in my bag and I wore
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00:44:27,952 --> 00:44:29,791
Marc Preston: the shoes he gave me Were the shoes in the
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00:44:29,811 --> 00:44:31,283
Marc Preston: cowboy boots Because I know he had loved
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00:44:31,303 --> 00:44:31,565
Marc Preston: cowboy boots.
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00:44:31,565 --> 00:44:32,909
Andrew Zimmern: They weren't, they were desert, they were
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00:44:32,949 --> 00:44:37,424
Andrew Zimmern: Clark's desert boots, which he had
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00:44:37,464 --> 00:44:38,588
Andrew Zimmern: developed an affection for.
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00:44:40,687 --> 00:44:44,494
Andrew Zimmern: And I, I called a lot of people back
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00:44:44,614 --> 00:44:48,631
Andrew Zimmern: because we delayed our start and I, you
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00:44:48,651 --> 00:44:51,043
Andrew Zimmern: know, I checked in with his, with his
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00:44:51,123 --> 00:44:54,813
Andrew Zimmern: family, I mean, I was, I knew his wife, his
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00:44:54,874 --> 00:44:58,050
Andrew Zimmern: daughter and then, of course, the you know,
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00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:01,742
Andrew Zimmern: at 11 o'clock, 10 o'clock that night, we're
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00:45:01,822 --> 00:45:03,308
Andrew Zimmern: shooting at Zahav restaurant in
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00:45:03,368 --> 00:45:05,931
Andrew Zimmern: Philadelphia At the end of the day, where I
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00:45:05,971 --> 00:45:07,580
Andrew Zimmern: was like half paying attention.
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00:45:07,620 --> 00:45:09,168
Andrew Zimmern: Every other second I'm on the phone with a
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00:45:09,208 --> 00:45:11,267
Andrew Zimmern: reporter or tech me, and part of the
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00:45:11,307 --> 00:45:15,015
Andrew Zimmern: responsibility I felt was so many people
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00:45:15,035 --> 00:45:17,348
Andrew Zimmern: are going to give the wrong impression, say
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00:45:17,388 --> 00:45:20,536
Andrew Zimmern: the wrong thing, do the wrong thing.
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00:45:21,185 --> 00:45:22,610
Marc Preston: But you're in a unique position to give
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00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:23,673
Marc Preston: wonderful context.
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00:45:24,866 --> 00:45:30,154
Andrew Zimmern: Well, and so so I I felt that it was okay
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00:45:30,235 --> 00:45:33,079
Andrew Zimmern: for me to to respond to a lot of these.
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00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:36,294
Andrew Zimmern: You know, everyone wanted my take on it.
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Andrew Zimmern: Now, you have to remember he's Tony's
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Andrew Zimmern: traveling with his best friend, eric Repair.
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Andrew Zimmern: Eric's not available.
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Andrew Zimmern: Eric, I mean, it's just, it's just horrific
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Andrew Zimmern: so, and the family's non responsive.
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Andrew Zimmern: So it it it.
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Andrew Zimmern: Then it falls to tier two, friends to sort
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Andrew Zimmern: of like put the kibosh in the right thing,
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Andrew Zimmern: you know, and do the, you know, make sure
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Andrew Zimmern: that that the right thing is done.
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Andrew Zimmern: And so, and I wound up going on a couple
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Andrew Zimmern: CNN shows.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, that night they sent a live truck
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Andrew Zimmern: over to the restaurant that we were at and
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Andrew Zimmern: you know, I did a couple of a couple of
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Andrew Zimmern: those shows and it was just, it was a very,
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Andrew Zimmern: very, very sad night.
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Andrew Zimmern: I I can certainly say that not only was he
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Andrew Zimmern: the most charismatic human being I ever met,
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Andrew Zimmern: but I think he's one of the most important
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Andrew Zimmern: voices of of my generation and I think, you
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Andrew Zimmern: know, 50, 100 years from now, they will
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Andrew Zimmern: still be selling his books and talking
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Andrew Zimmern: about him in the same way that we do now.
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Marc Preston: I couldn't agree more and I think that it
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Marc Preston: will have to be, with time, that people can
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Marc Preston: look back.
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Marc Preston: Like I said, there were the same thing with
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Marc Preston: the shows you create.
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Andrew Zimmern: They do create not only insight, but it's
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Andrew Zimmern: also a time capsule and to a degree, I
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Andrew Zimmern: think that so he he wanted to craft art
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Andrew Zimmern: pieces out of a lot of his shows you know,
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Andrew Zimmern: and you know the black and white show and
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Andrew Zimmern: he let me know like all the different
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Andrew Zimmern: things that he would do to try to be
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Andrew Zimmern: creative was fantastic.
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Marc Preston: Did you think the Roadrunner documentary
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Marc Preston: for the, for the layperson, do you think
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Marc Preston: them watching that that they got it pretty
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Marc Preston: right?
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Marc Preston: As far as articulating the Anthony Borden
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Marc Preston: experience, Did the Roadrunner documentary
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Marc Preston: got that done?
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Andrew Zimmern: To be honest with you, and I've tried a
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Andrew Zimmern: couple of times, I've not been able to get
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Andrew Zimmern: more than halfway through it.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean the and and and part of that is and
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Andrew Zimmern: I have.
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Andrew Zimmern: I'm not one of those people who has a, who
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Andrew Zimmern: has a problem with them.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, using AI to have him narrate,
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Andrew Zimmern: hear his voice, narrating things he wrote.
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Andrew Zimmern: I, you know, I, you know I don't have
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Andrew Zimmern: quibbles with that kind of thing.
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Andrew Zimmern: I, I just, you know I knew him, I, I, he
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Andrew Zimmern: was my friend, I and so other people have
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Andrew Zimmern: to decide for themselves.
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Andrew Zimmern: My understanding is from a lot of people.
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Andrew Zimmern: For the most part, they did get it right
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Andrew Zimmern: and certainly gave enough of a taste of it.
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Andrew Zimmern: I you know, but I've not been able to to
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Andrew Zimmern: make it through it and I've tried several
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Andrew Zimmern: times.
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Andrew Zimmern: I just I run out of of emotional energy for
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Andrew Zimmern: it.
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Andrew Zimmern: It's not that I get upset and have to turn
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Andrew Zimmern: it off.
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Andrew Zimmern: I, I just I have no desire to watch and I
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Andrew Zimmern: know it's only one of a handful of people
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Andrew Zimmern: that may be able to, to say that, just like,
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Andrew Zimmern: I've no interest in in seeing it and it's
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Andrew Zimmern: not a knock against them.
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Marc Preston: There's only one episode of parts unknown I
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Marc Preston: haven't seen.
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Marc Preston: It's the New Orleans episode.
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Marc Preston: I guess I, you know I'm Texas boy but I
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Marc Preston: live in New Orleans.
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Marc Preston: Now I've been here for quite some time and
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Marc Preston: and I remember one of his episodes he went
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Marc Preston: to a restaurant that was the best muff lot
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Marc Preston: in New Orleans.
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Marc Preston: You know he, he was like you do the same
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Marc Preston: thing.
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Marc Preston: You're not doing the travel guide way of
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Marc Preston: doing things, you know, and I remember
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Marc Preston: thinking that's I just can't bring myself
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Marc Preston: to watch that episode, just the most.
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Marc Preston: The most recent episode on the the no
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Marc Preston: reservation show.
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Marc Preston: I watched the New Orleans.
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Marc Preston: He always got it right, and you do as well,
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Marc Preston: and when we were, you know, when I travel
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Marc Preston: somewhere I inevitably I'm going to look up
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Marc Preston: what did Andrew go there?
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Marc Preston: Let me go watch that episode.
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Marc Preston: Thank God for streaming and I've got
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Marc Preston: Discovery, which I'm a big fan of.
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Marc Preston: The Discovery Plus app I made five bucks a
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Marc Preston: month is not trying to sell them, but it's
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Marc Preston: it's, of all the streamers out there really
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Marc Preston: has got a lot of content.
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, massive, massive library, and now
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Andrew Zimmern: that they've added you know, now the Warner
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Andrew Zimmern: Brothers side is on there the movies and I,
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Andrew Zimmern: I I'm not going to disagree with you, of
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Andrew Zimmern: course, as someone who made four or five
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Andrew Zimmern: shows in New Orleans, I'm dying to know
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Andrew Zimmern: you're you're going to have to watch some
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Andrew Zimmern: of mine and tell me if I got any of it
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Andrew Zimmern: right, but I will.
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Andrew Zimmern: I will say this there is a restaurant that
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Andrew Zimmern: I subs, after being taken there and getting
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Andrew Zimmern: turned on to it by a chef friend, have
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Andrew Zimmern: visited on every time that I've gone back
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Andrew Zimmern: there and that's R and O's out on the levy
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Andrew Zimmern: and mettery.
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Marc Preston: What?
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Marc Preston: Okay, see now.
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Marc Preston: Now you're a local.
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Marc Preston: If you know R and O's, it's not sexy, it's.
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Marc Preston: You know it's not, you know it it.
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Andrew Zimmern: but it is a local's place, it's incredible
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Andrew Zimmern: that I actually, in an episode that I shot
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Andrew Zimmern: there, I got up and stood in the middle of
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Andrew Zimmern: the dining room at lunch.
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Andrew Zimmern: There's 200 people in there, it's mobbed,
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Andrew Zimmern: lined of people out the door and I stood up
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Andrew Zimmern: all local, by the way and I and I stood up
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Andrew Zimmern: and I quieted everyone down.
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Andrew Zimmern: Cameras are rolling and I said is there
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Andrew Zimmern: anyone here who's not a local and a regular?
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Andrew Zimmern: And not a single hand went up and I just
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Andrew Zimmern: like raised my hand and everyone laughed.
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Andrew Zimmern: It was a great moment in the show but just
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Andrew Zimmern: to, there was no other way to illustrate to
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Andrew Zimmern: my audience how much of kind of like an
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Andrew Zimmern: insider's place it was and it's great.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean fried seafood and gumbo and a beef,
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Andrew Zimmern: an unha.
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Andrew Zimmern: It's never on anyone's list of best po-boys,
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Andrew Zimmern: but they have a fried oyster po-boy, a
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Andrew Zimmern: fried shrimp po-boy, but their beef po-boy
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Andrew Zimmern: is what all my chef friends go there for
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Andrew Zimmern: because of their gravy, and I have one
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Andrew Zimmern: friend who does an oyster and it's a surf
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Andrew Zimmern: and turf, he does fried oysters and beef
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Andrew Zimmern: with beef gravy and I'm just it's mind
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Andrew Zimmern: bogglingly good.
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Andrew Zimmern: I just, I love everything about R&O.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, that is.
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Marc Preston: It's every ages in there too.
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Marc Preston: You know it's, you can tell it's a local
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Marc Preston: sport.
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Marc Preston: There's a place next to it called Deenies.
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Marc Preston: I think you may have gone to Deenies.
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Marc Preston: I seem to remember I did not.
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Andrew Zimmern: But if there's a place next, this is what's
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Andrew Zimmern: so great about life.
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Andrew Zimmern: Someone says to you oh, have you been to
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Andrew Zimmern: the place next door?
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Andrew Zimmern: It's like, well, no, I haven't because I
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Andrew Zimmern: don't live there.
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Andrew Zimmern: So whenever I go, I go to R&Os.
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Andrew Zimmern: I'm not going there to go to the place next
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Andrew Zimmern: door.
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Andrew Zimmern: And now I'm like check out the place next
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Andrew Zimmern: door.
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Marc Preston: I will tell you that very few things turn
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Marc Preston: me.
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Marc Preston: I mean living in New Orleans.
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Marc Preston: I will say this, being a Dallas boy, having
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Marc Preston: lived and worked in Los Angeles as well,
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Marc Preston: having been here about on and off about 20
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Marc Preston: years, I can tell you that two things.
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Marc Preston: I'm tired of seeing them open up or po-boy
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Marc Preston: places and daiquiri shops, because they're
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Marc Preston: everywhere, everybody does it, and once you
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Marc Preston: have a place that starts doing something
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Marc Preston: really well, it's, I imagine, philadelphia
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Marc Preston: cheese steaks A lot everybody starts doing
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Marc Preston: them, but they're the kind of elite few.
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Marc Preston: And there's this place, dinis, they do
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Marc Preston: something.
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Marc Preston: They do a barbecue shrimp po-boy and it's
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Marc Preston: not barbecue like barbecue sauce, it's a
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Marc Preston: buttload of butter, and oh yeah.
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Marc Preston: And you go there, and you go just take a
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Marc Preston: bottle of Lipitor, go to town on it,
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Marc Preston: because if you don't, you're missing out.
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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, and I love, I love New Orleans style
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Andrew Zimmern: barbecue shrimp and a cast iron pan with
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Andrew Zimmern: lots of rosemary and butter.
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Andrew Zimmern: And you know, you know that's one of the
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Andrew Zimmern: things I wanted to ask you about is that
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Andrew Zimmern: you've been to New Orleans.
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Marc Preston: They cannot replicate what's in New Orleans
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Marc Preston: anywhere else on earth the way it is in New
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Marc Preston: Orleans.
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Marc Preston: But the thing is, if you want something
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Marc Preston: besides the unique fine dining the
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Marc Preston: Antoine's, galatois, things like that it's
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Marc Preston: a little bit more of a challenge to find
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Marc Preston: those ethnic kind of places that are not
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Marc Preston: and I don't know the phrase for it.
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Marc Preston: Maybe you can help me out, but I can't.
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Marc Preston: It's almost like gentrified food where,
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Marc Preston: yeah, oh, they have I'm not saying this
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Marc Preston: necessarily the case, but let's say African.
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Marc Preston: Well, it's going to be a little bit out of
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Marc Preston: the reach for the average person because
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Marc Preston: it's going to be a little bit more on the
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Marc Preston: fancy side.
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Marc Preston: Where you go to New York you want great
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Marc Preston: Indian to ask your cab driver, you're going
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Marc Preston: to go spend five bucks and have a full meal,
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Marc Preston: you know.
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Marc Preston: But that's the one thing about New Orleans.
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Marc Preston: I wish we had more stuff from elsewhere,
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Marc Preston: you know.
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, but people, new Orleans is the.
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Andrew Zimmern: There's only a couple cities in the world
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Andrew Zimmern: that I believe fit this bill.
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Andrew Zimmern: When you shut your eyes and you say the
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Andrew Zimmern: word New Orleans twice out loud, you can
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Andrew Zimmern: smell it and taste it, and you cannot say
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Andrew Zimmern: that about other cities.
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Andrew Zimmern: And the reason is is because the food is
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Andrew Zimmern: its own.
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Andrew Zimmern: I don't, you know, nobody goes to.
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Andrew Zimmern: I've had friends go to Beijing and ask me
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Andrew Zimmern: for a great place for a hamburger, because
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Andrew Zimmern: they don't want to eat Chinese food all the
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Andrew Zimmern: time, and I said why?
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Andrew Zimmern: The first of all?
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Andrew Zimmern: I think it's a ridiculous question,
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Andrew Zimmern: ridiculous supposition, and I personally am
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Andrew Zimmern: so offended when anyone I know asked me
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Andrew Zimmern: that question.
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Andrew Zimmern: But no one goes down to New Orleans and
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Andrew Zimmern: says, geez, do you know a good Japanese
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Andrew Zimmern: place for you know now, I'm sure, locals
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Andrew Zimmern: down there like you just expressed wished
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Andrew Zimmern: you had God.
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Andrew Zimmern: Sometimes I just feel like a great
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Andrew Zimmern: schnitzel, you know.
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Marc Preston: But God, that is almost like weird.
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Marc Preston: You say that I literally was watching
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Marc Preston: something a couple days ago of you you had.
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Marc Preston: It was some kind of a German thing where
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Marc Preston: they had oh God it was, I don't mean to
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Marc Preston: interrupt the schnitzel sandwich at the
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Marc Preston: State Fair.
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Andrew Zimmern: No, it was on my Instagram.
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Marc Preston: No, it was bits and pieces of shit.
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Marc Preston: Okay, I can't remember, but it was.
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Marc Preston: I was thinking schnitzel and.
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Marc Preston: Spatula and things like that.
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Marc Preston: I'm like, oh, those are kind of things.
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Andrew Zimmern: My point is my point is that you know New
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Andrew Zimmern: Orleans, like Portland Maine, where my dad
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Andrew Zimmern: retires, one of those cities that has a
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Andrew Zimmern: very small population yet has I mean, what
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Andrew Zimmern: does New Orleans get?
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Andrew Zimmern: 24 million?
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Marc Preston: visitors a year.
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Andrew Zimmern: It's an ungodly thing.
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Andrew Zimmern: And so, relative to the residential
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Andrew Zimmern: population, new Orleans has the most number
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Andrew Zimmern: of restaurants.
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Andrew Zimmern: This is, pre-covid, the most number of
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Andrew Zimmern: restaurants in any city in America per
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Andrew Zimmern: capita, because, just like Portland Maine,
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Andrew Zimmern: it fills up with people.
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Andrew Zimmern: Except New Orleans fills up 10 months a
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Andrew Zimmern: year, portland Maine only three months,
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Andrew Zimmern: four months a year, and so, consequently,
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Andrew Zimmern: everybody wants to eat there, and you also
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Andrew Zimmern: have to remember that even you know America
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Andrew Zimmern: is some of the most beloved food in America,
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Andrew Zimmern: which is Italian food.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean globally a favorite has developed
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Andrew Zimmern: its own hybridized style.
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Andrew Zimmern: There is a unique aspect to the New Orleans
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Andrew Zimmern: Italian restaurants that can be certain
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Andrew Zimmern: style.
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Andrew Zimmern: And there's a lot of the Creole tinge,
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Andrew Zimmern: which is different than Cajun, has sort of
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Andrew Zimmern: flown in there, and you know it's.
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Andrew Zimmern: You take someone who says, oh, are we going
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Andrew Zimmern: to eat Italian food tonight?
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Andrew Zimmern: Sure, and you take them to Chujox and it's.
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Andrew Zimmern: You watch their eyes roll back in their
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Andrew Zimmern: head and they're like this isn't Italian.
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Andrew Zimmern: And you're like, well, right, but it's New
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Andrew Zimmern: Orleans, right, I mean.
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Andrew Zimmern: So there's so many places like that.
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Andrew Zimmern: I'm a big fan of that town.
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Marc Preston: People understand Jefferson Parish.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, jefferson Parish is very.
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Marc Preston: They even have the Irish Italian parade
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Marc Preston: here.
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Marc Preston: I mean Italian, a lot of influences.
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Marc Preston: But I will tell you the next time you're in
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Marc Preston: there is.
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Marc Preston: We're kind of wrapping up here, but I do
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Marc Preston: have to tell you next time you're in New
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Marc Preston: Orleans I wouldn't be a.
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Marc Preston: Well, I think I've been through Katrina and
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Marc Preston: all the hurricanes.
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Marc Preston: I feel like I've earned my stripes here.
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Marc Preston: You know, sure, anthony Bourdain went there
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Marc Preston: and I knew he got.
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Marc Preston: He did what the smart people do in New
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Marc Preston: Orleans and get a cab driver.
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Marc Preston: It's kind of old, maybe a little crusty.
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Marc Preston: Ask them where they eat, because it's
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Marc Preston: always great.
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Marc Preston: Sure, I mean, there's a lot of sandwich
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Marc Preston: place called Norgeo.
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Marc Preston: It's an old metteried.
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Marc Preston: Everybody goes to the French Quarter to get
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Marc Preston: it.
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Marc Preston: But this is just, it is unique.
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Marc Preston: It's got that olive dress, all of salad,
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Marc Preston: the kind of thing it's just I'm thinking
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Marc Preston: about.
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Marc Preston: I mean, you tell I haven't had anything to
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Marc Preston: eat today so far.
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Marc Preston: So, because I'm now I'm thinking about
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Marc Preston: eating one of those, but it is truly the
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Marc Preston: one of the best sandwiches I've ever had,
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Marc Preston: you know.
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Marc Preston: So my, actually, in the way they New
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Marc Preston: Orleans makes it unique is the street I
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Marc Preston: used to live on an old man.
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Marc Preston: It was like the three doors down from it
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Marc Preston: and literally down the street is Is
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Marc Preston: somebody converted their garage into an
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Marc Preston: actual functioning bar.
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Marc Preston: So that's one of the things you find in New
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Marc Preston: Orleans.
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Marc Preston: You know you're gonna have somebody In
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Marc Preston: there and their garage is converted.
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Marc Preston: Now people come and drink there.
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Marc Preston: It's just bizarre, yeah, but um, it was a
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Marc Preston: wrap up, one of the things I love to do as
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Marc Preston: my my my quick seven questions.
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Marc Preston: As to the first one, I'm talking probably
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Marc Preston: number one person on planet Earth right now
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Marc Preston: when I ask this question what is your
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Marc Preston: favorite comfort food?
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Andrew Zimmern: It's my grandmother's roast chicken that I
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Andrew Zimmern: make.
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Andrew Zimmern: Now that my father made it, then I make it,
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Andrew Zimmern: and I Still eat it twice a week really a
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Andrew Zimmern: whole chicken mm-hmm, with pan gravy and
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Andrew Zimmern: it's I mean, it's chicken, little two and a
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Andrew Zimmern: half pounder, you know, but it feeds two or
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Andrew Zimmern: three people.
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Andrew Zimmern: But I have to make my grandmother's onion
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Andrew Zimmern: pan gravy.
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Andrew Zimmern: It has to be done her way, seasoned, her
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Andrew Zimmern: way.
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Andrew Zimmern: Now have I refined it a little bit?
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Andrew Zimmern: Sure, but I haven't chef-y did up, as some
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Andrew Zimmern: people like to say, it's still her chicken.
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Marc Preston: Where are your people from, though I've
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Marc Preston: always been curious about that Germany,
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Marc Preston: germany, okay.
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, they came over here in the 1840s, so
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Andrew Zimmern: you know it's it long time ago.
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Marc Preston: Okay, cuz my word, the Ukrainians, actually
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Marc Preston: everybody, they say, you know, jews from
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Marc Preston: Europe.
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Marc Preston: They all came through New York.
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Marc Preston: No, there's a big contingent.
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Andrew Zimmern: Came through New Orleans or a mobile
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Andrew Zimmern: Alabama, or you know mine came through
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Andrew Zimmern: Charleston, south Carolina, and that's why
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Andrew Zimmern: they wound up in Atlanta and then, after
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Andrew Zimmern: the Civil War, walked to New York.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, we were.
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Marc Preston: We came through Galveston.
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Marc Preston: So yeah, that's it's.
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Marc Preston: It's an interesting documentary called
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Marc Preston: Shalom y'all.
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Marc Preston: The Odyssey is sometimes kind of funny
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Marc Preston: about all these.
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Marc Preston: Oh yeah, no, love it.
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Marc Preston: Second question I got, you got a table,
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Marc Preston: four seats, you, three other people you
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Marc Preston: want to talk story for a few hours.
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Marc Preston: Who are those three people, living or not?
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Marc Preston: Who would you love to kind of get together
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Marc Preston: and just talk about life with for a while?
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Andrew Zimmern: Wow, well, I'm just gonna.
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Andrew Zimmern: I have to give myself boundaries, otherwise
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Andrew Zimmern: it's an endless.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know I'm one of those people who has
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Andrew Zimmern: collected detail for so long.
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Andrew Zimmern: I can't.
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Andrew Zimmern: It would be staggering, because I do have a
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Andrew Zimmern: historical set, but I'll just go with a
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Andrew Zimmern: contemporary set.
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Andrew Zimmern: I'd like to have dinner with David Simon,
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Andrew Zimmern: who created the wire, amongst other, in in
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Andrew Zimmern: Incredible, incredible shows, james
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Andrew Zimmern: Carville and David Simon, james Carville
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Andrew Zimmern: and I'll go with.
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Andrew Zimmern: I'll go with Tony Blair really okay.
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, here's why.
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Andrew Zimmern: Here's why Simon from Baltimore and and
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Andrew Zimmern: brilliant, by the way is his finest social,
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Andrew Zimmern: my favorite social commentator perhaps,
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Andrew Zimmern: with his work.
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Marc Preston: We did it.
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Andrew Zimmern: He did from a, also, I think, on HBO,
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Andrew Zimmern: didn't oh yeah, phenomenal, yeah, and you
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Andrew Zimmern: know James Carville because I adore him and
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Andrew Zimmern: I just would like to be able to break bread
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Andrew Zimmern: With him.
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Andrew Zimmern: But I need someone for all of us to ask
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Andrew Zimmern: questions of who would fill in blank spots
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Andrew Zimmern: and from an international, a non American
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Andrew Zimmern: perspective.
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Andrew Zimmern: And I'm lucky enough to work Sometimes with
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Andrew Zimmern: David Miliband, because I do work with the
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Andrew Zimmern: International Rescue Committee and he was
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Andrew Zimmern: Blair's secretary you know, foreign
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Andrew Zimmern: secretary and you know I get chance to talk
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Andrew Zimmern: to him sometimes and Tony Blair is just a
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Andrew Zimmern: fascinating guy but he knows where all the
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Andrew Zimmern: bodies are buried.
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Andrew Zimmern: I want to talk to him about Then and now
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Andrew Zimmern: you know Tony Blair is great because he was
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Andrew Zimmern: a.
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Marc Preston: He was the prime minister when we were
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Marc Preston: going through from.
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Marc Preston: You know different political swings in the
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Marc Preston: US but he did.
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Marc Preston: He come in right after Margaret Thatcher.
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Marc Preston: I'm trying to remember my okay.
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Announcer: So he, you know she had her thing.
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Marc Preston: She was a Reagan era, you know, but he he
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Marc Preston: kind of wrote a lot of our modern history.
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Marc Preston: You know, I could definitely but a James
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Marc Preston: Carville.
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Marc Preston: I saw him the other day.
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Marc Preston: I wish more note news folks would be
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Marc Preston: getting him on giving commentary because I
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Marc Preston: mean it's Theatrical common sense, you know
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Marc Preston: he's guys.
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Marc Preston: Just I love the way he articulates himself.
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Andrew Zimmern: He's the best.
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Marc Preston: Now next question who is your first when
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Marc Preston: you were kid?
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Marc Preston: Who was your first celebrity crush?
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Andrew Zimmern: My first celebrity crush, oh my gosh.
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, I mean not to not to put two Fine a
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Andrew Zimmern: point on it, but you know I'm 61, so the
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Andrew Zimmern: first celebrities that I ever saw that I
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Andrew Zimmern: was Attracted to were in the Playboy
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Andrew Zimmern: magazine's annual movies issue, and Movies
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Andrew Zimmern: you know the sex in movies issue, and so
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Andrew Zimmern: they, they always had, you know, incredible.
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Andrew Zimmern: You know that it was, and they were screen
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Andrew Zimmern: grabs of topless actresses and and, and so
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Andrew Zimmern: there were, and there were.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean this was.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean you have to see, this is through the
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Andrew Zimmern: lens of a 13 year old boy, right, it was
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Andrew Zimmern: which is a very vibrant lens.
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Andrew Zimmern: Yes, it is.
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Andrew Zimmern: It is a very vibrant lens and 1974
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Andrew Zimmern: Jacqueline Bissette was about as as good as
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Andrew Zimmern: it got for me at that time.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, I, yeah.
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Marc Preston: Somebody the other day brought up something
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Marc Preston: which I don't think many guys might.
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Marc Preston: I'm a little younger than you are, but I,
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Marc Preston: but somebody brought up Haley Mills.
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Marc Preston: I was like, oh man, but anyway, I was
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Marc Preston: thinking as when I was young, well, I
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Marc Preston: didn't realize shows that were shot in the
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Marc Preston: 60s.
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Marc Preston: You know, before you get a little older,
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Marc Preston: you know 9, 10, 11, you know you start
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Marc Preston: realizing, oh, wait a minute, this person's
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Marc Preston: much older.
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Marc Preston: One last questions is if you're gonna be on
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Marc Preston: an island for a year, an island you love
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Marc Preston: being on, but there is no streaming.
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Marc Preston: You can only bring one DVD to watch a movie,
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Marc Preston: one movie, and you can only bring one CD or
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Marc Preston: an album.
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Marc Preston: You know what?
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Marc Preston: What's that movie, what's that album I'm
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Marc Preston: gonna be for you to hang on to for a year?
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Andrew Zimmern: the movies gotta be Godfather parts one and
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Andrew Zimmern: two, because they are sold together on a
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Andrew Zimmern: single DVD set.
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Andrew Zimmern: So I'm going to, I'm gonna twist, I'm gonna
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Andrew Zimmern: tweak that a little bit.
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Marc Preston: Have you seen the offer on a Paramount Plus
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Marc Preston: by chance?
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Andrew Zimmern: brilliant.
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Andrew Zimmern: It's brilliant.
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Andrew Zimmern: So you know, I think that's the movie.
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Andrew Zimmern: And then For music, that is just.
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Andrew Zimmern: That's painful for someone who is such a
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Andrew Zimmern: music geek Like I'll see the guitar behind
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Andrew Zimmern: you.
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Marc Preston: Is that for decoration or do you play?
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Andrew Zimmern: I do play.
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Andrew Zimmern: That's actually a Paul McCartney Signed
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Andrew Zimmern: guitar that I got four or five years ago
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Andrew Zimmern: when he was in Minneapolis.
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Andrew Zimmern: Um yeah, it's a nice flex, right?
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Andrew Zimmern: Oh yeah, that's my, that's my Paul
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Andrew Zimmern: McCartney autographed Guitar very nice,
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Andrew Zimmern: which I which, which I'm a big.
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Andrew Zimmern: I'm a big fan of that one.
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Marc Preston: Well, it's a baseball bat, so I'm imagining
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Marc Preston: it's.
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Marc Preston: You got the music, you got the sports you
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Marc Preston: know I got that, I've got the whole thing.
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Andrew Zimmern: But you can see I I Think well, it's hard
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Andrew Zimmern: to pick up, but he signed it in silver on
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Andrew Zimmern: the black edging there.
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Andrew Zimmern: So I think I'll tell you the.
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Andrew Zimmern: This is gonna sound a little goofy, but I
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Andrew Zimmern: would go with the band's last waltz Because
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Andrew Zimmern: it's got a lot of the music that I love and
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Andrew Zimmern: I can sing along with every song and it.
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Andrew Zimmern: It's got quiet, tender moments and it
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Andrew Zimmern: stomps like a son of a bitch when you
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Andrew Zimmern: wanted to.
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Andrew Zimmern: So I'll go with the band's last waltz.
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Marc Preston: Well, yeah, I'm thinking with the area
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Marc Preston: you're going up in.
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Marc Preston: You were like I was born in 73.
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Announcer: Yeah, now so.
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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, well, I noticed that the 70s kind of
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Andrew Zimmern: passed me by a little bit, but you were
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Andrew Zimmern: right in the thick of it, you know, as far
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Andrew Zimmern: as music, oh, I was we would go on weekends
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Andrew Zimmern: to see you know Pink Floyd, one weekend Led
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Andrew Zimmern: Zeppelin, the next weekend at the garden,
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Andrew Zimmern: and then on Thursday night You'd go see the
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Andrew Zimmern: Ramones or you know whatever other punk
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Andrew Zimmern: music.
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Marc Preston: I'm married when I saw you're, you're,
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Marc Preston: that's right, you're all the nights I saw
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Marc Preston: all the night around zero.
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Andrew Zimmern: Oh yeah, I saw all the nights of you know
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Andrew Zimmern: the clash at bonds, I mean, I mean just on
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Andrew Zimmern: and on and on.
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Andrew Zimmern: It was so you're a CBGB once or twice yeah
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Andrew Zimmern: no many, because all our older brothers and
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Andrew Zimmern: sisters of my friends would take us to
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Andrew Zimmern: those places when we were 10, 12, 13, 14.
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Andrew Zimmern: So first first Concert I saw without my
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Andrew Zimmern: parents was 72, the brown sugar tour that
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Andrew Zimmern: the Stones did.
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Andrew Zimmern: Because my friend's older sister took us In
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Andrew Zimmern: where Mick was riding the giant inflatable
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Andrew Zimmern: tongue On stage and I thought I died and
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Andrew Zimmern: went to heaven.
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Marc Preston: I do envy folks a little bit.
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Marc Preston: You know the folks are a little bit older
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Marc Preston: Gen X, you know, to a little bit older than
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Marc Preston: that they got.
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Marc Preston: They got a good musical hit there.
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Marc Preston: Now the next question is if you're gonna be
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Marc Preston: from the time you wake up, time you go to
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Marc Preston: sleep, definition of a perfect day, or the
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Marc Preston: component parts for you.
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Marc Preston: You're like this was a good day.
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Marc Preston: What's that for you?
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, I had one Friday I went to.
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Andrew Zimmern: I went to work, had a decent morning,
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Andrew Zimmern: bugged out and did something I really
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Andrew Zimmern: wanted to do.
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Andrew Zimmern: It spent a couple hours at the State Fair
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Andrew Zimmern: but doing Something to help advance a cause
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Andrew Zimmern: and was stumping with a candidate here and
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Andrew Zimmern: Went home, took a nap on the couch because
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Andrew Zimmern: I don't interrupt you, but can we get Al
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Andrew Zimmern: Franken back?
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Marc Preston: Is that my friend?
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Marc Preston: I don't interrupt you, but can we get Al
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Marc Preston: Franken back?
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Marc Preston: Is that possible?
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Marc Preston: We're gonna try.
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Andrew Zimmern: I just interviewed him this morning for my
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Andrew Zimmern: sub stack.
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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, andrew Zimmer dot sub stack.
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Andrew Zimmern: Calm, we're starting to do a lot of video
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Andrew Zimmern: interviews now.
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Andrew Zimmern: I just talked to Al.
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Andrew Zimmern: He's a friend of mine, so we just we just
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Andrew Zimmern: spent some time with him this morning.
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Andrew Zimmern: One of our first guests Took a little nap
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Andrew Zimmern: with the dogs and woke up to find out that
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Andrew Zimmern: some musician friends of mine we're coming
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Andrew Zimmern: into town and landing at seven and I just
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Andrew Zimmern: convinced them to come over for dinner and
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Andrew Zimmern: I made everyone a big meal and sat around
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Andrew Zimmern: bullshitting with them till Midnight and it
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Andrew Zimmern: was.
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Andrew Zimmern: I went to bed that night just thinking well,
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Andrew Zimmern: that was a perfect day, what's not?
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Marc Preston: great in the great, it's just you, just
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Marc Preston: when you can stop and go.
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Marc Preston: Okay, this is I.
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Marc Preston: When I was out of town with my kids few
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Marc Preston: weeks ago.
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Marc Preston: I just had one of those moments, just like
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Marc Preston: this is just perfect.
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Marc Preston: I'm loving.
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Marc Preston: I want to kind of breathe this in Now.
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Marc Preston: Last two questions.
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Marc Preston: And if you weren't doing this, doing things
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Marc Preston: like what you said, the United Nations, or
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Marc Preston: with all the things you do and with
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Marc Preston: creatively what you're doing, what would
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Marc Preston: your gig be?
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Marc Preston: What do you think would bring you
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Marc Preston: satisfaction if you weren't doing what
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Marc Preston: you're doing now?
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Andrew Zimmern: Teaching history or art history.
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Andrew Zimmern: I thought that's what I wanted to do at one
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Andrew Zimmern: point.
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Marc Preston: Oh, don't you think you're doing that
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Marc Preston: indirectly right now?
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Andrew Zimmern: You know, yeah no for sure, but that I
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Andrew Zimmern: would have done it formerly A lot of people.
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Andrew Zimmern: But I only came to this later in life.
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Andrew Zimmern: So people say, well, wouldn't it be serving,
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Andrew Zimmern: you know, public office?
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Andrew Zimmern: And the fact of the matter is that I've
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Andrew Zimmern: said on many interviews many times that at
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Andrew Zimmern: whatever time this career of mine enters a
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Andrew Zimmern: different phase, you know I would like to
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Andrew Zimmern: run for public office.
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Andrew Zimmern: I talk about it all the time.
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Andrew Zimmern: Then, privately, all of my advisors and my
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Andrew Zimmern: politician friends tell me well, you can
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Andrew Zimmern: make as much influence from not being in
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Andrew Zimmern: public office, but you know doing what you
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Andrew Zimmern: do from the sideline.
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Marc Preston: I think you can make people think.
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Marc Preston: So, most certainly, we'll see, and I think
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Marc Preston: you've done a wonderful job of that.
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Marc Preston: I mean, you make people think, they
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Marc Preston: contemplate, they put, they put themselves
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Marc Preston: in the shoes of the people, because that's
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Marc Preston: one of the things I think you're I love in
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Marc Preston: your storytelling.
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Marc Preston: This is not it sounds like I'm stroking you,
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Marc Preston: I'm certainly not but you putting someone
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Marc Preston: who's sitting on their sofa drinking a beer
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Marc Preston: as close as you can to being in the
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Marc Preston: situation you're in, so there could be that
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Marc Preston: kind of kind of indirect experience.
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Marc Preston: You know, and I think that that's.
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Marc Preston: I think you can wield a lot more influence,
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Marc Preston: because I just think you can.
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Marc Preston: I would.
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Marc Preston: I'm selfish, I don't want you to stop
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Marc Preston: making your show, so, but the last question
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Marc Preston: I got for you, if you were to jump in your
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Marc Preston: DeLorean cruise back, there's 16 year old
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Marc Preston: Andrew.
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Marc Preston: You got a piece of advice wisdom.
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Marc Preston: It could either get you on a better track
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Marc Preston: in that moment or maybe to make life even
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Marc Preston: better for 16 year old you.
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Marc Preston: But regardless, what is that piece of
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Marc Preston: advice you're going to offer yourself at 16?
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Andrew Zimmern: The most important thing that I've learned
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Andrew Zimmern: in the last 45 years of my life is the
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Andrew Zimmern: following sentence I don't know to the
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Andrew Zimmern: answer.
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Andrew Zimmern: I don't know the answer to that.
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Andrew Zimmern: Can you help me?
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Andrew Zimmern: I spent the first 30 years of my life,
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Andrew Zimmern: first 40 years of my life, so obsessed with
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Andrew Zimmern: self, so sure that I knew the answer to
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Andrew Zimmern: everything.
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Andrew Zimmern: And in the last 20 years of my sobriety and
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Andrew Zimmern: I've been sober 30 plus years, but it's
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Andrew Zimmern: really the last 20 years I have learned the
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Andrew Zimmern: most valuable sentence in the in my life is
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Andrew Zimmern: I don't know.
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Andrew Zimmern: Can you help me?
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Marc Preston: I really like that.
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Marc Preston: I think being able to ask questions you
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Marc Preston: have to kind of put your ego to the side,
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Marc Preston: but when you talked about your history and
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Marc Preston: substance abuse, the odds were not stacked
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Marc Preston: in your favor at all.
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Marc Preston: And again I look like Anthony Bourdain the
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Marc Preston: same thing and I had a unique perspective
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Marc Preston: because I grew up in Dallas as a kid and
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Marc Preston: the latchkey kid in the 80s.
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Marc Preston: There is a lot of high roll and you know,
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Marc Preston: let's say I was like I definitely don't
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Marc Preston: want that it's life record Now, that kind
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Marc Preston: of a thing.
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Marc Preston: Then I ended up working in radio and
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Marc Preston: entertainment and I found a lot of my
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Marc Preston: favorite people had had a story arc where,
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Marc Preston: yeah, they're okay now, like a got him
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Marc Preston: shadow Stevens you remember it was American
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Marc Preston: Top 40.
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Marc Preston: Oh, sure you know and I look at where
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Marc Preston: they're at now and there's, there's so much
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Marc Preston: wisdom, there's so much to be learned by
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Marc Preston: somebody.
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Marc Preston: When you have seen, you know bookends of
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Marc Preston: what things could be like in life, and I
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Marc Preston: had an extra appreciation, enhanced
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Marc Preston: appreciation, for those that could tell a
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Marc Preston: story about their recovery, Because I think
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Marc Preston: they were some of the most wise people that
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Marc Preston: I ever met.
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Marc Preston: Some of the best wisdom I've ever gotten
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Marc Preston: has been through people that have been
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Marc Preston: through it, you know.
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Marc Preston: So I think that that's that's one of those
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Marc Preston: things that I really have come to
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Marc Preston: appreciate over the years is like I didn't
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Marc Preston: have to take the ride, but I most certainly
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Marc Preston: appreciate yours.
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Marc Preston: You know if that makes any sense, hopefully.
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Andrew Zimmern: Yep absolutely.
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Marc Preston: One last question before we go what's going
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Marc Preston: on with delis in America?
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Marc Preston: Is it my imagination?
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Marc Preston: Or everywhere I go is like they're less and
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Marc Preston: less Jewish delis.
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Andrew Zimmern: There are and the ones that are being
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Andrew Zimmern: opened are our modernist takes on them.
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Andrew Zimmern: Some excellent, some excellent.
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Andrew Zimmern: However we are, we have lost during covid
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Andrew Zimmern: so many and we continue to lose so many
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Andrew Zimmern: delis all the time, and they are.
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Andrew Zimmern: They will be a thing of eras past.
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Marc Preston: I mean, you think so.
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Marc Preston: Do you really think like?
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Andrew Zimmern: yeah, I think places like Katz's will hang
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Andrew Zimmern: on, and you know, you know like canter is a
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Andrew Zimmern: lot of other yeah exactly.
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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, you know that will still be there,
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Andrew Zimmern: but we were losing a lot of those, those
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Andrew Zimmern: little delis around the country that are
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Andrew Zimmern: exquisite and I just think it's.
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Andrew Zimmern: They can't compete and people don't want to
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Andrew Zimmern: pay.
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Andrew Zimmern: They don't want to pay $30.
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Andrew Zimmern: Well, they don't want to pay $30 for a
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Andrew Zimmern: sandwich, and I'm not talking about, you
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Andrew Zimmern: know, overstuffed.
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Andrew Zimmern: It's just that the quality of the product
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Andrew Zimmern: has to be very, very high and it takes just
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Andrew Zimmern: as much labor, if not more, to create that.
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Andrew Zimmern: Then I mean, look, every these days, with
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Andrew Zimmern: the restaurant economy and the economy in
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Andrew Zimmern: general being the way it is, every famous
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Andrew Zimmern: chef in the world wants to open a pizzeria.
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Andrew Zimmern: Why?
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Andrew Zimmern: It's the best food cost item that you can
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Andrew Zimmern: make, you know, and delis are not the best
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Andrew Zimmern: food cost items you can make.
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Marc Preston: Well, andrew, again your generosity, your
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Marc Preston: time.
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Marc Preston: I so enjoy this chat and I wish you nothing
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Marc Preston: but the best next time you're in New
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Marc Preston: Orleans.
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Andrew Zimmern: R&O's and then Diney's next door.
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Marc Preston: You hit the local note right there Double
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Marc Preston: up Lunch one, lunch two?
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Marc Preston: It would definitely be on me.
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Marc Preston: It'd be my pleasure.
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Marc Preston: But, my friend, all the best to you and
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Marc Preston: looking forward to your new show.
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Marc Preston: On is the outdoor channel.
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Andrew Zimmern: Yep Wild Game Kitchen Premieres September
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Andrew Zimmern: 19th at nine o'clock Eastern.
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Marc Preston: Family dinner, of course, on Magnolia,
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Marc Preston: loving your stuff, my friend, have yourself
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Marc Preston: a killer rest of day.
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Andrew Zimmern: Hopefully this is another one of those
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Andrew Zimmern: great days for you, me too Take it easy,
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Andrew Zimmern: and for you as well.
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Marc Preston: Well, there you go, andrew Zimmer.
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Marc Preston: That was.
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Marc Preston: That was a lot of fun.
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Marc Preston: As I mentioned at the beginning of the show,
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Marc Preston: I didn't have anything to eat, so you know,
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Marc Preston: talking food for an hour with Andrew was.
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Marc Preston: It was fun, but, man, I was hungry when I
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Marc Preston: was done Really enjoyed the opportunity to
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Marc Preston: sit down with him.
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Marc Preston: The new show's Magnolia Network you can
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Marc Preston: catch family dinner, as well as the show
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Marc Preston: Wild Game Kitchen, which is on the outdoor
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Marc Preston: channel, and, of course, the Netflix reboot
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Marc Preston: of Iron Chef.
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Marc Preston: You can check out Andrew as he's one of the
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Marc Preston: judges A gig.
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Marc Preston: I've always wanted to have A judge on Iron
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Marc Preston: Chef.
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Marc Preston: That seems like it would be a lot of fun.
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Marc Preston: Also got to throw a quick happy birthday to
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Marc Preston: my son, zachary Just turned 18.
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Marc Preston: So so incredibly proud of him.
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Marc Preston: Now I got two of those adult type offspring.
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Marc Preston: So that means that to college kids they're
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Marc Preston: getting older.
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Marc Preston: I somehow miraculously stay the same age.
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Marc Preston: That's what I'm telling myself.
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Marc Preston: All right, don't forget to subscribe and
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Marc Preston: Of course, going to be back with another
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Marc Preston: great episode soon with somebody very
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Marc Preston: interesting.
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Marc Preston: Just going to throw it out there.
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Marc Preston: If you are a big Ghostbusters fan, check
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Marc Preston: out the next episode.
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Marc Preston: Just a little tease, if you will.
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Marc Preston: All right, that's it for me today.
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Marc Preston: I'm going to run out and grab myself a bite
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Marc Preston: to eat.
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Marc Preston: You have a very safe and awesome rest of
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Marc Preston: your day.
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Marc Preston: We'll see you next time right here on Story
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TV Personality | Chef | Writer | Social Justice Advocate
Andrew Zimmern is an Emmy-winning and four-time James Beard Award-winning TV personality, chef, writer and social justice advocate. As the creator, executive producer and host of the Bizarre Foods franchise, Andrew Zimmern’s Driven by Food and Emmy-winning The Zimmern List, he has devoted his life to exploring and promoting cultural acceptance, tolerance and understanding through food. In 2020, Andrew returned to television with MSNBC’s What's Eating America, and in 2021, he premiered Family Dinner on Magnolia Network. This year, you can find him judging the epic culinary battle Iron Chef: Quest for an Iron Legend on Netflix and on Outdoor Channel’s Andrew Zimmern’s Wild Game Kitchen.
A Taste of the Good—and Bad— Life
Andrew knew from a young age he wanted a career in food. After attending The Dalton School and Vassar College, he cooked in New York City restaurants for Anne Rosenzweig, Joachim Splichal and Thomas Keller, amongst others. Andrew helped open and run a dozen restaurants, and at the same time was also an addict spiraling out of control. After a year spent living on the streets, an intervention by close friends brought him to the Hazelden Foundation in Minnesota. Transforming his life around sobriety, Andrew took a job washing dishes at Minneapolis’ Café Un Deux Trois. In 1992, he was named executive chef and during his six-year tenure, turned Un Deux Trois into an awarded, national caliber restaurant.
Making Moves in the Media
Andrew's menu at Un Deux Trois drew the attention of media. Local news appearances led to regular TV…
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