Welcome to The Story & Craft Podcast!
Sept. 14, 2022

Andrew Zimmern | Ambassador of Culinary Connections

Andrew Zimmern | Ambassador of Culinary Connections

On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with James Beard and Emmy award-winning television host, chef, and world traveler, Andrew Zimmern.  We know Andrew from his work on Food Network, Cooking Channel, Travel Channel and MSNBC shows, Bizarre Foods, The Zimmern List and What’s Eating America. Listen in as we cover the expanse of his career, his early struggles, and his friendly rivalry with Anthony Bourdain. Andrew shares his insights on creating something special in both his personal and professional life, while also taking us on a journey through his much-loved shows and his fascinating travels around the world. 

We also explore the rich tapestry of Andrew's family traditions and cultural experiences. From his son's upbringing to his experience with the Sakalava tribe in Africa, his stories are both engaging and insightful. We even get a glimpse of his new show “Family Dinner” on the Magnolia Network, Discovery+ and Max, and Marc’s quest to recreate his grandmother's kugel recipe. 

The conversation takes another interesting turn as we discuss the transformative power of travel and the influences it has had on Andrew's life and career. From his privileged upbringing in Manhattan to his journey to homelessness, addiction, and ultimately sobriety, Andrew's story is truly compelling. Finally, we reflect on the tragic death of Anthony Bourdain, discuss the unique culinary delights of New Orleans, and chat about Andrew's new show on the Outdoor Channel, “Wild Game Kitchen”. Tune in for a delicious and insightful conversation with Andrew Zimmern!

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

0:07:39 - Celebrating Family Through Food

0:13:17 - Learning, Transformation, and Travel Experiences

0:21:32 - Exploring Portland, Maine With Andrew’s Dad

0:24:08 - Finding Passion in the Culinary World

0:30:41 - Storytelling and Cultural Exploration

0:31:51 - The Responsibility of the Camera Person

0:41:29 - Reflecting on Anthony Bourdain's Death

0:48:49 - New Orleans Food and Dining Discussion

1:08:59 - Alternative Career Paths and Public Office

1:13:07 - Decline of Jewish Delis in America

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Transcript
Andrew Zimmern:

This is, this is what's so great about life.


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Andrew Zimmern: Someone says to you oh, have you been to



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Andrew Zimmern: the place next door?



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Andrew Zimmern: It's like, well, no, I haven't because I



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Andrew Zimmern: don't live there.



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Andrew Zimmern: So whenever I go, I go to R&O's.



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Andrew Zimmern: I'm not going there to go to the place next



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Andrew Zimmern: door.



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Andrew Zimmern: And now I'm like check out the place next



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Andrew Zimmern: door.



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Announcer: Welcome to story and craft.



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Announcer: Now.



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Announcer: There's your host, Marc Preston.



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Marc Preston: Hey, how you doing?



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Marc Preston: Welcome back another episode of story and



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Marc Preston: Craft.



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Marc Preston: Hey, if this is your first episode, welcome.



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Marc Preston: My name is Marc Preston and today a Great



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Marc Preston: episode with a very intriguing guy.



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Marc Preston: He is a chef.



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Marc Preston: He is a James Beard and Emmy award-winning



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Marc Preston: television host.



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Marc Preston: He's a world traveler.



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Marc Preston: You've seen him in bizarre foods the



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Marc Preston: Zimmern list what's eating America?



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Marc Preston: Andrew Zimmern is our guest today.



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Marc Preston: Really great chat.



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Marc Preston: We cover a lot of ground about his career,



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Marc Preston: his early life.



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Marc Preston: He has a great story about kind of



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Marc Preston: overcoming some adversity and finding a way



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Marc Preston: to create something really special In his



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Marc Preston: personal and professional life.



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Marc Preston: Always love those good stories.



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Marc Preston: Now, of course, we also chatted a little



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Marc Preston: bit about Anthony Bourdain, his



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Marc Preston: relationship, his friendship and kind of a



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Marc Preston: friendly Competition he had with Anthony.



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Marc Preston: Of course, if you listen to the show, you



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Marc Preston: know loves him, anthony Bourdain.



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Marc Preston: It's gonna be a great episode with Andrew.



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Marc Preston: If you are hungry, I suggest getting a



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Marc Preston: snack.



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Marc Preston: I did this show without having a bite to



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Marc Preston: eat for lunch and I was so hungry when I



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Marc Preston: was done Just talked a lot about food.



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Marc Preston: Now don't forget if you would please



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Marc Preston: So make sure to do that and leave a little



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Marc Preston: Apple podcasts or Whatever app that you use.



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Marc Preston: All right, let's get after it.



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Marc Preston: Today it is Andrew Zimmern Day, right here



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Marc Preston: on story and craft.



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Marc Preston: What are we eating today?



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Marc Preston: It's a grilled cheese sandwich.



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Marc Preston: It's always.



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Marc Preston: It's always the, the comfort foods or



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Marc Preston: whatever it.



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Marc Preston: Whatever have you?



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Andrew Zimmern: nothing that I like better, and I eat it at



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Andrew Zimmern: work so I can hide my shame from my family.



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Marc Preston: I Work from home, so it's kind of like I



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Marc Preston: have a hard time doing that, although I'm



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Marc Preston: I was in Jamaica with my kids a few weeks



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Marc Preston: ago and I I don't know how I forgot I have



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Marc Preston: bought a bag of that Blue Mountain coffee.



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Marc Preston: It was in my pants, in my pantry, I was



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Marc Preston: like I've been making my regular coffee.



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Marc Preston: It's like, wait a minute, there's you ever



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Marc Preston: gonna be A good day.



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Marc Preston: I found the good coffee.



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Marc Preston: Yes, I'm all proud of myself here.



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Marc Preston: So you're, are you in the Twin Cities right



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Marc Preston: now?



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Marc Preston: Are you in New York?



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Marc Preston: Sure, am, no, I'm in the Twin Cities.



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Marc Preston: How often are you in Minnesota?



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Andrew Zimmern: Well, it depends.



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Andrew Zimmern: As bad as a hundred days a year, as good as



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Marc Preston: I tell you it's so funny.



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Marc Preston: If it wasn't for you now, I've had friends



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Marc Preston: in St Paul I would have never learned about



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Marc Preston: Ludifisk, or Was it hot dish?



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Marc Preston: I would never known about these culinary



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Marc Preston: Treasures of Minnesota one awful, one awful



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Marc Preston: and one superb one of the things I was



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Marc Preston: admired is is how somebody can travel as



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Marc Preston: much as you do and Maintain a sense of



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Marc Preston: sanity.



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Marc Preston: I love traveling, but after about a week



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Marc Preston: I'm like you know, I'm kind of looking for



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Marc Preston: my own bed here after after a while.



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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, big time, big time real quick.



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Marc Preston: Just gonna touch on a little origin story



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Marc Preston: kind of the inception when you started



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Marc Preston: working with the Scripps Networks, the Was



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Marc Preston: it travel channel or was it food network



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Marc Preston: that you first kind of debuted your show on



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Marc Preston: travel channel.



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Andrew Zimmern: And yeah, it was, it was Scripps.



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Andrew Zimmern: And what was discovery?



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Andrew Zimmern: Then it was when I don't know its own, then



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Andrew Zimmern: it was Cox, then it was Back to discovery



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Andrew Zimmern: again.



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Andrew Zimmern: So I've been one way or another Taking a



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Andrew Zimmern: check from the same people for a long time.



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Marc Preston: era, where we may see any name, any one of



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Marc Preston: your shows, maybe on food or maybe on like



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Marc Preston: Magnolia, now you know so.



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Marc Preston: But but the thing is that this shows are



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Marc Preston: out there and I think you do such a



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Marc Preston: wonderful job and of course that's just not



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Marc Preston: kissing up right now More than kind of any



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Marc Preston: other time, at least in American culture.



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Marc Preston: I think having those shows, that kind of



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Marc Preston: show you were more alike than Than



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Marc Preston: different, I think, are kind of important



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Marc Preston: in my mind more important than ever.



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Andrew Zimmern: I don't know, I don't know how many minds



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Andrew Zimmern: were changing.



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Andrew Zimmern: I hope it's many, but yeah, it's, it's



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Andrew Zimmern: really important for, I think, for everyone



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Andrew Zimmern: to see you have a son, correct?



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Marc Preston: I do?



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Marc Preston: You just have the one son.



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Marc Preston: How old is he now?



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Marc Preston: I'm gonna ballpark.



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Marc Preston: Seventeen and a half anybody it's listening



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Marc Preston: to this nose is like, of course I'm a fan,



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Marc Preston: you know.



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Marc Preston: I remember one episode.



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Marc Preston: I think you're in Africa, I Think it was



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Marc Preston: Africa.



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Marc Preston: You, your wife, was on on the trip with you



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Marc Preston: and I remember there was a rite of passage



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Marc Preston: for a young child and I remember you were



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Marc Preston: tearing up a little bit because it was



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Marc Preston: correlating between his breasts or is it's



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Marc Preston: kind of?



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Andrew Zimmern: I think there was some kind of a ritual you



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Andrew Zimmern: were.



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Andrew Zimmern: It was a little circumcision, the the the



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Andrew Zimmern: difficulty for me was that it was done when



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Andrew Zimmern: the young boy was five, which is different



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Andrew Zimmern: than several days old.



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Andrew Zimmern: As is typical here in this country.



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Andrew Zimmern: But, but more importantly, the, the plan



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Andrew Zimmern: was for the most honored guest to Consume



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Andrew Zimmern: the foreskin.



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Andrew Zimmern: Now, this is typically in the Sakalava



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Andrew Zimmern: tribe, believed to be the paternal was the



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Andrew Zimmern: grandfather?



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Marc Preston: wasn't the grandfather's best father?



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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, and he Act, we.



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Andrew Zimmern: You know he wanted to Step aside and allow



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Andrew Zimmern: me because he felt I was.



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Andrew Zimmern: I had been in the village with them for



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Andrew Zimmern: five or six days and he wanted me to take



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Andrew Zimmern: his place.



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Andrew Zimmern: And I was extremely nervous as the because



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Andrew Zimmern: that, as this Circumcision is going on, I



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Andrew Zimmern: know that in a matter of minutes I'm



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Andrew Zimmern: consuming human foreskin and you know it's,



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Andrew Zimmern: it's sitting there.



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Andrew Zimmern: So many thoughts are going through my mind.



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Andrew Zimmern: I want to be a good guest, but is this a



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Andrew Zimmern: bridge too far, as they say?



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Andrew Zimmern: And At the moment I, you know, I got up.



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Andrew Zimmern: The maternal grandfather insulted that he



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Andrew Zimmern: was relegated to third banana instead of



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Andrew Zimmern: second banana because he believed if



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Andrew Zimmern: paternal grandfather issues said foreskin,



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Andrew Zimmern: he should, and and he grabs it out of



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Andrew Zimmern: someone's hand and throws it in his mouth



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Andrew Zimmern: and like so there and and stomps out.



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Andrew Zimmern: And that was it.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, I remember something went, went not



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Marc Preston: as planned, not to plan, but I thought it



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Marc Preston: your VO on it you were.



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Marc Preston: You were correlating or maybe you were



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Marc Preston: discussing it with your wife, I forgot but



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Marc Preston: know after a while that kind of wears on



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Marc Preston: you.



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Marc Preston: You know, whenever you see somebody else's



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Marc Preston: kid, you know they're interacting with her



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Marc Preston: kids you miss your own kid.



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Marc Preston: Oh, of course maybe not, maybe not



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Marc Preston: interacting with the foreskin as much, but



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Marc Preston: you know.



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Andrew Zimmern: Correct it is.



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Andrew Zimmern: It is a constant reminder that you're gone,



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Andrew Zimmern: you know, and it's in then.



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Andrew Zimmern: The flip side is that you know now, with



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Andrew Zimmern: family dinner, with Wild Game Kitchen that



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Andrew Zimmern: premieres in just a couple of weeks on



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Andrew Zimmern: outdoor channel, with Iron Chef on Netflix,



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Marc Preston: I'm not saying you had identical



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Marc Preston: experiences, but I certainly think that



454


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Marc Preston: when you, when things really you know, you



455


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Marc Preston: feel like you have your hands off the



456


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Marc Preston: steering wheel and whatever evolves in your



457


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Marc Preston: life, you can empathize with other people



458


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Marc Preston: much easier.



459


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Marc Preston: Is that accurate in your experience?



460


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Andrew Zimmern: I actually think it's an understatement.



461


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Andrew Zimmern: I think you know and Joseph Campbell wrote



462


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Andrew Zimmern: about this in the hero's journey.



463


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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, a lot of people have, and I'm no



464


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Andrew Zimmern: hero, I am it, you know.



465


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Andrew Zimmern: But you know Campbell's theory, and I think



466


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Andrew Zimmern: it's true and has been widely accepted.



467


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Andrew Zimmern: Now, as when you've been through the fire,



468


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Andrew Zimmern: you know, when you have had the Phoenix



469


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Andrew Zimmern: experience and coming back from tragedy and



470


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Andrew Zimmern: rising from ashes, If you survive, you have



471


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Andrew Zimmern: a skill set that other people don't have.



472


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Andrew Zimmern: It's pure and simple, and I've had this,



473


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Andrew Zimmern: you know.



474


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Andrew Zimmern: I've studied this now, for you know,



475


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Andrew Zimmern: anecdotally, for 30 some odd years, and it



476


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Andrew Zimmern: is, it's universally true.



477


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Andrew Zimmern: And I think, for you know, some people have



478


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Andrew Zimmern: to go through what I did.



479


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Andrew Zimmern: That was a pretty low bottom.



480


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Andrew Zimmern: Other people don't need to have as low a



481


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Andrew Zimmern: bottom, but it is a transformative



482


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Andrew Zimmern: experience and if it doesn't make you more



483


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Andrew Zimmern: I'll just use your words empathetic with



484


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Andrew Zimmern: the human condition around the world, more



485


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Andrew Zimmern: in tune with the trials and tribulations of



486


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Andrew Zimmern: your fellow man, I think you've wasted



487


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Andrew Zimmern: life's greatest lesson.



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Marc Preston: Now, you had all those experiences, but



489


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Marc Preston: travel was something you were doing even



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Marc Preston: when you were younger.



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Marc Preston: I seem to remember an episode of your



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Marc Preston: father.



493


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Marc Preston: He went somewhere in France, or it could



494


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Marc Preston: have been in Spain.



495


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Marc Preston: It was somewhere and, you see, your father



496


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Marc Preston: would had taken you there when you were



497


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Marc Preston: younger and, and I believe you'd even



498


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Marc Preston: brought him back, if I'm not mistaken on my



499


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Marc Preston: memory.



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Andrew Zimmern: you're correct that, no, no, no, you're



501


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Andrew Zimmern: absolutely correct and you know I



502


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Andrew Zimmern: referenced this a lot.



503


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Andrew Zimmern: I was lucky enough to travel around the



504


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Andrew Zimmern: world several times with my dad.



505


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Andrew Zimmern: He was one of the people responsible for



506


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Andrew Zimmern: running an international you know



507


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Andrew Zimmern: advertising agency and we traveled a lot



508


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Andrew Zimmern: and he loved to travel, to eat and eat to



509


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Andrew Zimmern: travel.



510


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Andrew Zimmern: So even when we weren't working although I



511


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Andrew Zimmern: went on a lot of work trips with him, it



512


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Andrew Zimmern: was, you know we also went on a lot of fun



513


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Andrew Zimmern: trips as well.



514


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Andrew Zimmern: Every year we love to ski, so we would go



515


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Andrew Zimmern: every year to Europe, ski somewhere for a



516


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Andrew Zimmern: week or 10 days, then go visit a city for



517


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Andrew Zimmern: four or five days.



518


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Andrew Zimmern: So, and yes, very famously, as a five year



519


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Andrew Zimmern: old, I've sat in you know the place for all



520


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Andrew Zimmern: the seafood trading where the boats came in



521


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Andrew Zimmern: in Paris, on the river, you know, picking



522


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Andrew Zimmern: big or no and drinking pasties.



523


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Andrew Zimmern: At eight or nine years old, while my dad



524


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Andrew Zimmern: was doing a, having a business dinner three



525


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Andrew Zimmern: tables over, reading my book and not



526


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Andrew Zimmern: understanding why I was so flushed and



527


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Andrew Zimmern: giddy, I sat with him in a humble taverna



528


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Andrew Zimmern: outside of Valladolos Cayetos in Spain



529


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Andrew Zimmern: where, ironically, franco is buried now,



530


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Andrew Zimmern: but this restaurant under the Roman



531


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Andrew Zimmern: Aqueduct there, and you know, they walk up



532


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Andrew Zimmern: to you and they basically ask you lamb or



533


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Andrew Zimmern: pig, and you pick one and then all the



534


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Andrew Zimmern: other courses come before it, but at the



535


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Andrew Zimmern: end out comes a newborn lamb or pig, piglet



536


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Andrew Zimmern: and cooked, and you eat the whole thing.



537


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Andrew Zimmern: That's your portion is this small roasted



538


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Andrew Zimmern: animal.



539


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Andrew Zimmern: And what preceded it were Angulas, these



540


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Andrew Zimmern: tiny little Elvers, baby eels that swim



541


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Andrew Zimmern: from the Sargasso Sea up into the rivers



542


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Andrew Zimmern: where they will grow and become very large



543


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Andrew Zimmern: freshwater eels.



544


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Andrew Zimmern: And you know, this was the experience of my



545


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Andrew Zimmern: childhood.



546


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Andrew Zimmern: My father gave that to me on trip after



547


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Andrew Zimmern: trip after trip after trip.



548


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Andrew Zimmern: So it's no wonder why I eventually got into



549


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Andrew Zimmern: doing what I do, because I'm just a paler



550


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Andrew Zimmern: version of him.



551


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Andrew Zimmern: And yes, you are.



552


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Andrew Zimmern: You are also correct, we at one point.



553


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Andrew Zimmern: You know, when you start in television you



554


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Andrew Zimmern: don't call any shots at all, you just say



555


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Andrew Zimmern: yes to everything and show up, and then, if



556


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Andrew Zimmern: the show is successful, it all kind of



557


00:21:26,419 --> 00:21:30,168


Andrew Zimmern: flips around, everyone's asking you, and I



558


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Andrew Zimmern: think it was season two or three.



559


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Andrew Zimmern: I told the producers we're going to do a



560


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Andrew Zimmern: show in Portland, maine, and we're going to



561


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Andrew Zimmern: do it with my dad and let him show me his



562


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Andrew Zimmern: town that he was living in at the at the



563


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Andrew Zimmern: time and what was that we're from?



564


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Andrew Zimmern: or that's where he, no he spent the last 12



565


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Andrew Zimmern: years of his life there.



566


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Andrew Zimmern: He wanted to move.



567


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Andrew Zimmern: He was born in Bred, new York City in the



568


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Andrew Zimmern: late 40s, got a house out in Long Island so



569


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Andrew Zimmern: he had a summer place out there and then it



570


00:22:01,815 --> 00:22:03,299


Andrew Zimmern: just became too crowded for him.



571


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Andrew Zimmern: So in his 70s, you know, he and his partner



572


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Andrew Zimmern: moved up to Portland, maine, and lived



573


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Andrew Zimmern: there for 10, 12 years before both of them



574


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Andrew Zimmern: passed.



575


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Andrew Zimmern: And it was an amazing time to actually have



576


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Andrew Zimmern: a show where I got to shoot with him.



577


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Andrew Zimmern: And at the very end we're at this big party



578


00:22:27,382 --> 00:22:29,810


Andrew Zimmern: tasting a whole bunch of local strange



579


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Andrew Zimmern: things that we shot on.



580


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Andrew Zimmern: A friend of his friend of his has an island



581


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Andrew Zimmern: there.



582


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Andrew Zimmern: It sounds very bougie, but you know they're



583


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Andrew Zimmern: in Maine.



584


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Andrew Zimmern: There's a lot of little tiny islands and



585


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Andrew Zimmern: they're passed from family to family.



586


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Andrew Zimmern: And he knew someone who had a small humble



587


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Andrew Zimmern: place in the Bay and we shot there and I



588


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Andrew Zimmern: got my son in the show.



589


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Andrew Zimmern: So at one point my son, my father and I are



590


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Andrew Zimmern: all eating and I remember that vividly



591


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Andrew Zimmern: because I mean, if I got hit by a bus



592


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Andrew Zimmern: tomorrow, I've immortalized the three of us



593


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Andrew Zimmern: together chowing down.



594


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Andrew Zimmern: So I'm pretty happy with that.



595


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Marc Preston: You know, it kind of brings it back to what



596


00:23:12,823 --> 00:23:14,495


Marc Preston: you were saying about your Magnolia Channel



597


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Marc Preston: show.



598


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Marc Preston: It's it's like you can do all these really



599


00:23:18,909 --> 00:23:20,836


Marc Preston: wonderful, sometimes extravagant, or really



600


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Marc Preston: amazing, amazing opportunities.



601


00:23:23,064 --> 00:23:25,473


Marc Preston: But what re in my, my youngest daughter



602


00:23:25,854 --> 00:23:27,140


Marc Preston: gets so mad at me because I'm always taking



603


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Marc Preston: pictures like daddy, really, please, just



604


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Marc Preston: the one teenager on earth that doesn't post



605


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Marc Preston: to Instagram.



606


00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:35,007


Marc Preston: But anyway, the I'm like, I'm like I want



607


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Marc Preston: this.



608


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Marc Preston: You know, this is important to me.



609


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Marc Preston: You know we were on a cruise a few weeks



610


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Marc Preston: ago.



611


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Marc Preston: She gave me a little more latitude.



612


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Marc Preston: I was allowed to take more pictures, you



613


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Marc Preston: know.



614


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Marc Preston: But you know, getting the multi generation,



615


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Marc Preston: the family, together there.



616


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Marc Preston: Were you noticing that your son was into it,



617


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Marc Preston: or is he kind of like, oh God, here's dad



618


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Marc Preston: doing his?



619


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Andrew Zimmern: thing again.



620


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Andrew Zimmern: Three.



621


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Andrew Zimmern: Well, he was like three or four.



622


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Andrew Zimmern: He loved being in the show when he was



623


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Andrew Zimmern: little and I think if we tried today he



624


00:24:01,180 --> 00:24:01,500


Andrew Zimmern: would.



625


00:24:03,445 --> 00:24:04,247


Andrew Zimmern: He would not be.



626


00:24:04,268 --> 00:24:07,035


Andrew Zimmern: I said he's 1717.



627


00:24:07,316 --> 00:24:08,219


Marc Preston: So I got one of those.



628


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Marc Preston: Also just started his freshman year at



629


00:24:10,568 --> 00:24:12,918


Marc Preston: Loyola when you were kind of coming around



630


00:24:12,978 --> 00:24:15,327


Marc Preston: and and you're in Minnesota, you're hitting



631


00:24:15,347 --> 00:24:16,131


Marc Preston: the reset button.



632


00:24:16,291 --> 00:24:18,461


Marc Preston: What pulled you into the culinary world?



633


00:24:18,521 --> 00:24:18,722


Marc Preston: What?



634


00:24:18,923 --> 00:24:20,310


Marc Preston: What was the genesis of?



635


00:24:20,431 --> 00:24:22,139


Marc Preston: I mean, was that even your original plan



636


00:24:22,420 --> 00:24:23,304


Marc Preston: when you're going to college?



637


00:24:23,324 --> 00:24:24,590


Andrew Zimmern: Well, it had been.



638


00:24:24,610 --> 00:24:26,136


Andrew Zimmern: You know, I went to college because my



639


00:24:26,217 --> 00:24:29,205


Andrew Zimmern: father said, well, I'll back up.



640


00:24:29,687 --> 00:24:32,154


Andrew Zimmern: When I was four, I cooked with my



641


00:24:32,214 --> 00:24:34,038


Andrew Zimmern: grandmother as a young child, with my mom



642


00:24:34,058 --> 00:24:37,986


Andrew Zimmern: and dad as an older child, and I had an



643


00:24:38,106 --> 00:24:40,797


Andrew Zimmern: aptitude for it and, you know, my dad



644


00:24:40,858 --> 00:24:42,381


Andrew Zimmern: taught me what to do.



645


00:24:42,462 --> 00:24:44,995


Andrew Zimmern: You know that no one called it foraging you.



646


00:24:45,016 --> 00:24:46,604


Andrew Zimmern: Just, you know it was the 60s.



647


00:24:46,785 --> 00:24:48,494


Andrew Zimmern: You know you threw a line in the water and



648


00:24:48,514 --> 00:24:49,418


Andrew Zimmern: caught a striped bass.



649


00:24:49,438 --> 00:24:50,804


Andrew Zimmern: You went down to the jetty and pulled



650


00:24:50,864 --> 00:24:51,326


Andrew Zimmern: muscles.



651


00:24:51,447 --> 00:24:54,377


Andrew Zimmern: You, you raked clams on a cloudy morning.



652


00:24:54,457 --> 00:24:56,302


Andrew Zimmern: You know, we, we, I mean, this was what we



653


00:24:56,362 --> 00:24:57,284


Andrew Zimmern: did in the summertime.



654


00:24:58,026 --> 00:25:03,545


Andrew Zimmern: And so I learned how to do and loved food,



655


00:25:04,647 --> 00:25:07,713


Andrew Zimmern: so that when my father said, you know, when



656


00:25:07,814 --> 00:25:11,133


Andrew Zimmern: the spring were preceding my 14th birthday,



657


00:25:11,351 --> 00:25:14,559


Andrew Zimmern: which is in the summer, he said I hope, you



658


00:25:14,777 --> 00:25:16,237


Andrew Zimmern: know, there's no more allowance.



659


00:25:16,698 --> 00:25:17,721


Andrew Zimmern: You know what are you going to do for a



660


00:25:17,761 --> 00:25:18,422


Andrew Zimmern: summer job?



661


00:25:19,465 --> 00:25:21,357


Andrew Zimmern: And I said work in restaurants.



662


00:25:21,417 --> 00:25:23,302


Andrew Zimmern: I knew right away what I wanted to do and



663


00:25:23,563 --> 00:25:24,895


Andrew Zimmern: all my other friends were working at the



664


00:25:24,955 --> 00:25:28,022


Andrew Zimmern: landscape company or at the gas station or



665


00:25:28,063 --> 00:25:29,947


Andrew Zimmern: at the superMarcet, and I worked in



666


00:25:30,007 --> 00:25:30,488


Andrew Zimmern: restaurants.



667


00:25:30,555 --> 00:25:31,098


Andrew Zimmern: And we were lucky.



668


00:25:31,158 --> 00:25:33,569


Andrew Zimmern: We had a friend who owned a seafood



669


00:25:33,609 --> 00:25:35,317


Andrew Zimmern: restaurant who was willing to hire me and



670


00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:36,863


Andrew Zimmern: that's where I went.



671


00:25:36,903 --> 00:25:39,392


Andrew Zimmern: It was called the quiet clam on Montauk



672


00:25:39,412 --> 00:25:41,199


Andrew Zimmern: Highway, just as you entered the village of



673


00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:45,052


Andrew Zimmern: East Hampton and I worked there summers in



674


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Andrew Zimmern: high school and begged my parents to work



675


00:25:47,902 --> 00:25:50,230


Andrew Zimmern: odd nights during the school year in New



676


00:25:50,271 --> 00:25:52,559


Andrew Zimmern: York to be in restaurants and they let me



677


00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,082


Andrew Zimmern: do that.



678


00:25:53,242 --> 00:25:55,372


Andrew Zimmern: And so the dye was I knew when I was six



679


00:25:55,412 --> 00:25:56,877


Andrew Zimmern: years old I wanted to work in food.



680


00:25:56,917 --> 00:25:59,565


Andrew Zimmern: I mean, that was accepted by my family.



681


00:26:00,155 --> 00:26:01,980


Marc Preston: But how lucky, how lucky are you, though,



682


00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:04,005


Marc Preston: that that because I had the similar



683


00:26:04,065 --> 00:26:04,607


Marc Preston: experience.



684


00:26:04,675 --> 00:26:07,141


Marc Preston: I remember going I want to do this thing.



685


00:26:07,282 --> 00:26:09,207


Marc Preston: For me it was radio or acting or you know,



686


00:26:09,355 --> 00:26:11,928


Marc Preston: but I knew every time I tried to push and



687


00:26:11,968 --> 00:26:12,812


Marc Preston: go some other direction.



688


00:26:12,852 --> 00:26:14,280


Marc Preston: I went to a really good high school and



689


00:26:14,521 --> 00:26:15,185


Marc Preston: maybe medicine.



690


00:26:15,225 --> 00:26:15,989


Marc Preston: You know Jewish play.



691


00:26:16,030 --> 00:26:18,118


Marc Preston: You know be a good shot, be a Jewish doctor.



692


00:26:18,138 --> 00:26:20,563


Marc Preston: You know, I was like it just didn't light



693


00:26:20,604 --> 00:26:21,085


Marc Preston: my fire.



694


00:26:21,365 --> 00:26:23,879


Marc Preston: I just knew and I think I consider anybody



695


00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:26,084


Marc Preston: that's got that it can be a bumpy road, but



696


00:26:26,164 --> 00:26:26,706


Marc Preston: it's it's.



697


00:26:26,967 --> 00:26:29,562


Marc Preston: It's really lucky when you can bring that



698


00:26:29,602 --> 00:26:30,244


Marc Preston: to fruition.



699


00:26:30,575 --> 00:26:32,340


Andrew Zimmern: New, always knew what I wanted to do and



700


00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,766


Andrew Zimmern: you know, my father encouraged it in a



701


00:26:34,826 --> 00:26:38,181


Andrew Zimmern: sense, but he said don't pass up college.



702


00:26:38,602 --> 00:26:40,766


Andrew Zimmern: He said, even if you want to be the, you



703


00:26:40,787 --> 00:26:44,281


Andrew Zimmern: know the own restaurants, or be a chef or



704


00:26:44,301 --> 00:26:46,406


Andrew Zimmern: whatever you want to do, learning to read,



705


00:26:46,466 --> 00:26:48,780


Andrew Zimmern: write and think critically at a higher



706


00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,944


Andrew Zimmern: level is really important.



707


00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:52,672


Andrew Zimmern: And so I went to.



708


00:26:52,812 --> 00:26:55,098


Andrew Zimmern: I went to college and he was right because



709


00:26:55,378 --> 00:26:57,603


Andrew Zimmern: ultimately once I mean I wasted a lot of my



710


00:26:57,643 --> 00:27:03,846


Andrew Zimmern: time in college but ultimately my my



711


00:27:03,967 --> 00:27:09,661


Andrew Zimmern: storytelling capability, my style of



712


00:27:09,741 --> 00:27:12,670


Andrew Zimmern: storytelling, I learned studying art



713


00:27:12,730 --> 00:27:13,994


Andrew Zimmern: history at Vaster College.



714


00:27:15,167 --> 00:27:20,490


Andrew Zimmern: From the first day of art history 101, when



715


00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:23,526


Andrew Zimmern: Dr Susan Koretzki put the first slide up of



716


00:27:23,586 --> 00:27:31,713


Andrew Zimmern: the first class of my freshman year, I



717


00:27:31,814 --> 00:27:34,019


Andrew Zimmern: learned a way of deciphering the world.



718


00:27:36,065 --> 00:27:38,774


Andrew Zimmern: She put up a painting Northern Renaissance,



719


00:27:40,228 --> 00:27:42,595


Andrew Zimmern: late 16th century and she asked everyone in



720


00:27:42,615 --> 00:27:44,410


Andrew Zimmern: the class to write down what they saw in



721


00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:45,868


Andrew Zimmern: the painting and what it meant.



722


00:27:46,405 --> 00:27:48,812


Andrew Zimmern: And everyone wrote down chair, table, dog,



723


00:27:49,173 --> 00:27:54,294


Andrew Zimmern: bowl of fruit, window, hat, scarf, dress,



724


00:27:54,795 --> 00:27:55,237


Andrew Zimmern: necklace.



725


00:27:56,729 --> 00:27:58,173


Andrew Zimmern: And then she asked for everyone to read



726


00:27:58,194 --> 00:27:59,127


Andrew Zimmern: their list, three or four.



727


00:27:59,287 --> 00:28:01,247


Andrew Zimmern: Everyone had the same thing and you could



728


00:28:01,307 --> 00:28:02,492


Andrew Zimmern: tell halfway through.



729


00:28:02,565 --> 00:28:06,154


Andrew Zimmern: This was her class one slide, one setup for



730


00:28:06,174 --> 00:28:06,415


Andrew Zimmern: the year.



731


00:28:08,286 --> 00:28:10,614


Andrew Zimmern: And she then stepped back and spent a half



732


00:28:10,634 --> 00:28:14,254


Andrew Zimmern: an hour telling us everything about late to



733


00:28:14,454 --> 00:28:17,292


Andrew Zimmern: 16th century Flemish life there.



734


00:28:17,545 --> 00:28:20,798


Andrew Zimmern: You know, no one had noticed that in the



735


00:28:20,818 --> 00:28:24,050


Andrew Zimmern: fruit bowl was a banana.



736


00:28:24,211 --> 00:28:27,232


Andrew Zimmern: But bananas don't grow in what is now



737


00:28:27,312 --> 00:28:29,790


Andrew Zimmern: Holland, so it had to have come from



738


00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:31,014


Andrew Zimmern: somewhere else, right?



739


00:28:31,966 --> 00:28:33,873


Andrew Zimmern: And so it indicated the wealth of the



740


00:28:33,933 --> 00:28:34,274


Andrew Zimmern: family.



741


00:28:34,385 --> 00:28:37,147


Andrew Zimmern: And she just went on and on and on Sherlock



742


00:28:37,187 --> 00:28:37,508


Andrew Zimmern: Holmes.



743


00:28:37,528 --> 00:28:38,753


Andrew Zimmern: I mean, it was like a locked room.



744


00:28:39,567 --> 00:28:40,692


Marc Preston: I was literally about to say that.



745


00:28:40,732 --> 00:28:40,953


Marc Preston: Yeah.



746


00:28:41,546 --> 00:28:43,949


Andrew Zimmern: I mean, you know, it's like Hercules Poirot



747


00:28:43,989 --> 00:28:45,052


Andrew Zimmern: couldn't have done a better job.



748


00:28:45,866 --> 00:28:51,106


Andrew Zimmern: And I found myself 45, 40 years later, 40



749


00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:54,476


Andrew Zimmern: years later, no less, 35 years, whatever.



750


00:28:55,447 --> 00:28:56,832


Andrew Zimmern: I'm in a jungle in Nicaragua.



751


00:28:57,445 --> 00:28:59,231


Andrew Zimmern: I'm shooting the second season of Bizarre



752


00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:03,926


Andrew Zimmern: Foods and I'm in a jungle Marcet and



753


00:29:03,986 --> 00:29:08,397


Andrew Zimmern: someone puts a bowl of very rustic chanfina,



754


00:29:08,525 --> 00:29:10,871


Andrew Zimmern: which is a chopped stew made of organ meat,



755


00:29:12,315 --> 00:29:13,097


Andrew Zimmern: in my hands.



756


00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:15,613


Andrew Zimmern: And we're in a jungle, so I know that it's



757


00:29:15,653 --> 00:29:16,115


Andrew Zimmern: bush meat.



758


00:29:16,245 --> 00:29:18,914


Andrew Zimmern: It's not goat or chicken or whatever.



759


00:29:19,306 --> 00:29:22,635


Andrew Zimmern: It's made with animals that live in the



760


00:29:22,655 --> 00:29:22,976


Andrew Zimmern: forest.



761


00:29:23,706 --> 00:29:27,096


Andrew Zimmern: And these jungle Marcets spring up once a



762


00:29:27,156 --> 00:29:29,498


Andrew Zimmern: week where vendors are bringing all their



763


00:29:29,518 --> 00:29:32,431


Andrew Zimmern: wares or tribal people convene, and once a



764


00:29:32,471 --> 00:29:33,906


Andrew Zimmern: week or once every two weeks, people can



765


00:29:33,946 --> 00:29:37,745


Andrew Zimmern: trade, exchange news of the day, and



766


00:29:37,766 --> 00:29:40,229


Andrew Zimmern: there's always people cooking so that folks



767


00:29:40,269 --> 00:29:40,891


Andrew Zimmern: can buy food.



768


00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:46,566


Andrew Zimmern: And I started very naturally telling it was



769


00:29:46,626 --> 00:29:48,233


Andrew Zimmern: a real turning point for me in my career.



770


00:29:48,325 --> 00:29:50,252


Andrew Zimmern: I mean, I'm not saying that I sucked the



771


00:29:50,312 --> 00:29:52,670


Andrew Zimmern: first year, but I was nowhere near the



772


00:29:52,730 --> 00:29:56,331


Andrew Zimmern: storyteller I was prior to my experience



773


00:29:56,812 --> 00:29:59,531


Andrew Zimmern: with that bowl of chanfina that I am now.



774


00:30:00,045 --> 00:30:01,792


Marc Preston: Well, of course, if you think you're just



775


00:30:01,852 --> 00:30:03,935


Marc Preston: as good now as you were back then, or you



776


00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:05,827


Marc Preston: haven't grown at all, so now you can



777


00:30:05,887 --> 00:30:07,473


Marc Preston: actually recognize the growth, that's a



778


00:30:07,493 --> 00:30:07,714


Marc Preston: good thing.



779


00:30:08,426 --> 00:30:11,055


Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, and you see, I held up the soup and I



780


00:30:11,095 --> 00:30:12,721


Andrew Zimmern: said if you look at the soup, you can tell



781


00:30:12,822 --> 00:30:14,451


Andrew Zimmern: everything about the people here buy it.



782


00:30:15,346 --> 00:30:21,089


Andrew Zimmern: And I started to do what Dr Koretsky did in



783


00:30:21,571 --> 00:30:24,120


Andrew Zimmern: that art history class long ago, which was



784


00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:26,248


Andrew Zimmern: tell my audience, look into the camera and



785


00:30:26,288 --> 00:30:28,589


Andrew Zimmern: tell them everything about this people and



786


00:30:28,609 --> 00:30:30,927


Andrew Zimmern: this time and this place in this country



787


00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:34,036


Andrew Zimmern: through this bowl of stew.



788


00:30:35,006 --> 00:30:40,270


Andrew Zimmern: And it was a real turning point for me and



789


00:30:40,771 --> 00:30:41,312


Andrew Zimmern: it still is.



790


00:30:41,372 --> 00:30:44,807


Andrew Zimmern: My favorite form of storytelling is being



791


00:30:44,927 --> 00:30:47,855


Andrew Zimmern: able to, even if it's a cheeseburger at a



792


00:30:47,895 --> 00:30:50,872


Andrew Zimmern: local shop, you can tell a lot about a



793


00:30:50,912 --> 00:30:51,915


Andrew Zimmern: place and a culture.



794


00:30:52,746 --> 00:30:54,111


Andrew Zimmern: I have famously said this.



795


00:30:54,788 --> 00:30:55,805


Andrew Zimmern: It's been quoted a lot.



796


00:30:55,946 --> 00:30:59,683


Andrew Zimmern: I love museums, but I can learn more about



797


00:30:59,703 --> 00:31:01,956


Andrew Zimmern: a country by going to a local Marcet and



798


00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,171


Andrew Zimmern: eating and talking to people that I can by



799


00:31:04,212 --> 00:31:05,505


Andrew Zimmern: going into their local museum.



800


00:31:05,625 --> 00:31:06,128


Andrew Zimmern: That's for sure.



801


00:31:07,206 --> 00:31:08,410


Marc Preston: Yeah, one of the things I think you're a



802


00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:11,169


Marc Preston: Jedi knight doing which is, I mean, for



803


00:31:11,189 --> 00:31:13,668


Marc Preston: your vocation is essential is communicating



804


00:31:13,708 --> 00:31:16,195


Marc Preston: the moment, what it's like aesthetically,



805


00:31:16,745 --> 00:31:17,288


Marc Preston: what it tastes like.



806


00:31:18,045 --> 00:31:20,553


Marc Preston: I remember you got the little shelfish, the



807


00:31:20,573 --> 00:31:22,889


Marc Preston: OPI, I think, kind of like a salty



808


00:31:23,209 --> 00:31:24,353


Marc Preston: something, gummy bear.



809


00:31:24,734 --> 00:31:25,576


Marc Preston: How have you described it?



810


00:31:25,605 --> 00:31:27,011


Marc Preston: I'm like, OK, I get a feeling for what?



811


00:31:27,065 --> 00:31:28,812


Marc Preston: That it's the most random description.



812


00:31:28,865 --> 00:31:31,426


Marc Preston: But I think what you do wonderfully is



813


00:31:32,229 --> 00:31:34,047


Marc Preston: really transport people and I think that



814


00:31:34,107 --> 00:31:35,372


Marc Preston: kind of going back to where you're



815


00:31:35,392 --> 00:31:37,691


Marc Preston: discussing before, is how much is it moving



816


00:31:37,711 --> 00:31:40,169


Marc Preston: the needle culturally on, kind of opening



817


00:31:40,189 --> 00:31:42,195


Marc Preston: people up to other people and ideas?



818


00:31:42,605 --> 00:31:43,550


Marc Preston: I think it certainly helps.



819


00:31:44,267 --> 00:31:46,053


Marc Preston: I think being able to be a very capable



820


00:31:46,153 --> 00:31:48,873


Marc Preston: storyteller is your part and parcel.



821


00:31:48,925 --> 00:31:49,528


Marc Preston: That's what you do.



822


00:31:50,826 --> 00:31:52,312


Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, but a lot of people do.



823


00:31:52,666 --> 00:31:53,791


Andrew Zimmern: This is what's fascinating to me.



824


00:31:54,405 --> 00:31:57,145


Andrew Zimmern: So many other folks forget that there is



825


00:31:57,225 --> 00:32:00,032


Andrew Zimmern: someone on the other side of the camera



826


00:32:00,533 --> 00:32:05,672


Andrew Zimmern: watching six months later and they're not



827


00:32:05,692 --> 00:32:07,645


Andrew Zimmern: going to hear the rain in the distance or



828


00:32:07,766 --> 00:32:13,357


Andrew Zimmern: smell the loamy, earthy, mildewy smell of



829


00:32:13,397 --> 00:32:14,018


Andrew Zimmern: that jungle.



830


00:32:14,525 --> 00:32:16,813


Andrew Zimmern: They're not going to taste the food,



831


00:32:17,285 --> 00:32:19,893


Andrew Zimmern: they're not going to see the smile on every



832


00:32:19,973 --> 00:32:20,895


Andrew Zimmern: person who's in there.



833


00:32:21,325 --> 00:32:25,075


Andrew Zimmern: So you have to, it's your responsibility to



834


00:32:25,155 --> 00:32:26,889


Andrew Zimmern: tell them You're the avatar for the



835


00:32:26,970 --> 00:32:27,251


Andrew Zimmern: audience.



836


00:32:27,565 --> 00:32:29,212


Andrew Zimmern: I think a lot of people forget that.



837


00:32:30,187 --> 00:32:32,370


Andrew Zimmern: I really do and, by the way, I'm lucky to



838


00:32:32,410 --> 00:32:35,509


Andrew Zimmern: have had amazing mentors and great teachers



839


00:32:35,689 --> 00:32:37,645


Andrew Zimmern: and folks who told me to pay attention to



840


00:32:37,685 --> 00:32:38,147


Andrew Zimmern: that stuff.



841


00:32:40,446 --> 00:32:45,786


Andrew Zimmern: And, yes, is a certain part of it Dye's



842


00:32:45,806 --> 00:32:47,472


Andrew Zimmern: already cast by the time they picked up the



843


00:32:47,512 --> 00:32:49,468


Andrew Zimmern: first camera, because of what happened to



844


00:32:49,488 --> 00:32:52,135


Andrew Zimmern: be the first 33, 34 years of my life.



845


00:32:52,945 --> 00:32:55,108


Andrew Zimmern: Yes, to a certain degree, but some of it's



846


00:32:55,168 --> 00:32:55,931


Andrew Zimmern: actually learned.



847


00:32:56,305 --> 00:32:58,572


Andrew Zimmern: Some of it is paying attention, having



848


00:32:58,632 --> 00:33:01,067


Andrew Zimmern: someone remind you that not only is there



849


00:33:01,128 --> 00:33:05,427


Andrew Zimmern: someone who one day and it could be the



850


00:33:05,467 --> 00:33:05,909


Andrew Zimmern: same viewer.



851


00:33:06,905 --> 00:33:11,835


Andrew Zimmern: So one day, Marc, you're coming to the show



852


00:33:11,915 --> 00:33:12,817


Andrew Zimmern: I make, whatever it is.



853


00:33:13,965 --> 00:33:15,873


Andrew Zimmern: You just had a tough day and you pop a beer



854


00:33:16,025 --> 00:33:17,069


Andrew Zimmern: and you just want to sit down and be



855


00:33:17,109 --> 00:33:17,632


Andrew Zimmern: entertained.



856


00:33:18,065 --> 00:33:20,431


Andrew Zimmern: And then some days you're eager to like,



857


00:33:20,571 --> 00:33:24,529


Andrew Zimmern: hey, whoever's in the house, come take a



858


00:33:24,569 --> 00:33:25,031


Andrew Zimmern: look at this.



859


00:33:25,265 --> 00:33:26,812


Andrew Zimmern: And you sit down and you learn something,



860


00:33:26,845 --> 00:33:28,732


Andrew Zimmern: because it's just really cool and



861


00:33:28,812 --> 00:33:30,872


Andrew Zimmern: fascinating, or maybe just beautiful.



862


00:33:30,985 --> 00:33:32,933


Andrew Zimmern: And you learn a lot about the Faroe Islands,



863


00:33:32,945 --> 00:33:35,013


Andrew Zimmern: because I'm about to die in freezing water



864


00:33:36,308 --> 00:33:39,176


Andrew Zimmern: while Orca's circle our Zodiac boat.



865


00:33:39,926 --> 00:33:42,706


Andrew Zimmern: But no matter what it is, you have to be



866


00:33:42,827 --> 00:33:47,952


Andrew Zimmern: there for all people all the time and not



867


00:33:48,193 --> 00:33:50,362


Andrew Zimmern: ostracize members of your audience.



868


00:33:50,703 --> 00:33:52,230


Marc Preston: Oh, certainly, but I think, with the way



869


00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:53,668


Marc Preston: people come, like you said, the guys just



870


00:33:53,689 --> 00:33:56,136


Marc Preston: maybe pop in a beer, maybe another day



871


00:33:56,177 --> 00:33:57,568


Marc Preston: watch the same episode, maybe he's more



872


00:33:57,689 --> 00:33:59,287


Marc Preston: actively watching it and he's going to pick



873


00:33:59,307 --> 00:34:00,572


Marc Preston: up on something I know for myself.



874


00:34:01,045 --> 00:34:03,285


Marc Preston: I think and I don't want to conflate, I



875


00:34:03,325 --> 00:34:04,845


Marc Preston: know I mentioned Anthony Bourdain before, I



876


00:34:04,865 --> 00:34:06,932


Marc Preston: don't want to conflate y'all have two very



877


00:34:07,033 --> 00:34:09,751


Marc Preston: unique voices, but there are so many



878


00:34:09,831 --> 00:34:12,168


Marc Preston: parallels that I think had y'all not had



879


00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:14,647


Marc Preston: the life y'all had, I don't think y'all



880


00:34:14,667 --> 00:34:17,375


Marc Preston: would be as effective and as memorable.



881


00:34:17,465 --> 00:34:19,131


Marc Preston: And I think that you're making all these



882


00:34:19,492 --> 00:34:22,432


Marc Preston: jewel boxes of experiences for people, for



883


00:34:23,194 --> 00:34:23,776


Marc Preston: even the future.



884


00:34:24,347 --> 00:34:27,054


Marc Preston: And I just I always sat down as, like



885


00:34:27,074 --> 00:34:29,790


Marc Preston: thinking I truly enjoy both these guys for



886


00:34:29,830 --> 00:34:32,156


Marc Preston: their own special sauce.



887


00:34:32,485 --> 00:34:34,187


Marc Preston: You know what you have to offer, but there



888


00:34:34,308 --> 00:34:36,728


Marc Preston: are beautiful, wonderful parallels in what



889


00:34:36,748 --> 00:34:37,591


Marc Preston: you're kind of like.



890


00:34:38,005 --> 00:34:39,932


Marc Preston: Did you ever ever speak with Anthony



891


00:34:39,972 --> 00:34:41,389


Marc Preston: Bourdain and go, ok, how are we going to



892


00:34:41,409 --> 00:34:42,393


Marc Preston: differentiate our shows?



893


00:34:42,465 --> 00:34:44,492


Marc Preston: We're out there sort of doing something



894


00:34:44,552 --> 00:34:46,669


Marc Preston: similar and he gives you these wonderful



895


00:34:46,729 --> 00:34:49,229


Marc Preston: gentle ribs going OK, and then I show you



896


00:34:49,249 --> 00:34:50,388


Marc Preston: he's like god, this is something more for



897


00:34:50,468 --> 00:34:50,810


Marc Preston: Zimmern.



898


00:34:51,285 --> 00:34:54,012


Marc Preston: You know, you can tell Kind of Kind of.



899


00:34:54,406 --> 00:34:55,791


Andrew Zimmern: It was actually even better than that.



900


00:34:57,205 --> 00:34:58,571


Andrew Zimmern: You know, we both grew up in New York.



901


00:34:58,825 --> 00:35:03,510


Andrew Zimmern: We both were smartasses, we both had, you



902


00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:07,057


Andrew Zimmern: know, different types of addiction issues.



903


00:35:08,365 --> 00:35:10,230


Andrew Zimmern: We both worked in New York at the same time



904


00:35:10,290 --> 00:35:11,072


Andrew Zimmern: as Line Cooks.



905


00:35:13,046 --> 00:35:14,572


Andrew Zimmern: We had both gone to Vassar College.



906


00:35:14,906 --> 00:35:15,823


Andrew Zimmern: He was there a couple years.



907


00:35:15,965 --> 00:35:17,331


Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, he was there a couple years before I



908


00:35:17,371 --> 00:35:17,786


Andrew Zimmern: was Well.



909


00:35:17,906 --> 00:35:18,951


Marc Preston: I know even his father.



910


00:35:18,991 --> 00:35:20,149


Marc Preston: I remember he used to travel with his



911


00:35:20,229 --> 00:35:21,486


Marc Preston: family when he was younger, you know.



912


00:35:21,506 --> 00:35:22,791


Announcer: I know there was this that's right.



913


00:35:23,285 --> 00:35:24,108


Marc Preston: So please don't.



914


00:35:24,168 --> 00:35:25,733


Marc Preston: I'm certainly not saying y'all are just



915


00:35:25,774 --> 00:35:26,014


Marc Preston: alike.



916


00:35:26,105 --> 00:35:27,709


Marc Preston: I'm not saying that, no, we're very



917


00:35:27,770 --> 00:35:28,134


Marc Preston: different.



918


00:35:28,365 --> 00:35:29,470


Andrew Zimmern: We're very, very different.



919


00:35:29,685 --> 00:35:30,931


Andrew Zimmern: This is what was fantastic.



920


00:35:31,447 --> 00:35:36,249


Andrew Zimmern: We became friends, but he loved I mean, I



921


00:35:36,329 --> 00:35:39,486


Andrew Zimmern: think he took more pleasure giving me a ton



922


00:35:39,526 --> 00:35:40,449


Andrew Zimmern: of shit about stuff.



923


00:35:42,325 --> 00:35:44,733


Andrew Zimmern: That was his favorite thing because, as he



924


00:35:44,873 --> 00:35:47,429


Andrew Zimmern: often would say, he said, you know, we go,



925


00:35:48,191 --> 00:35:50,797


Andrew Zimmern: you know we both go to the Congo.



926


00:35:51,625 --> 00:35:55,875


Andrew Zimmern: We both eat the same Warthog meal with two



927


00:35:55,915 --> 00:35:56,757


Andrew Zimmern: different tribes.



928


00:35:57,145 --> 00:35:58,810


Andrew Zimmern: I don't know how he does it, because at



929


00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:02,908


Andrew Zimmern: least I get to drink Right, the implication



930


00:36:02,948 --> 00:36:04,785


Andrew Zimmern: being it's easier to eat that stuff if



931


00:36:04,825 --> 00:36:05,548


Andrew Zimmern: you've had a few.



932


00:36:07,986 --> 00:36:09,430


Andrew Zimmern: And you know.



933


00:36:09,471 --> 00:36:11,787


Andrew Zimmern: We explored the world telling our stories



934


00:36:11,807 --> 00:36:17,528


Andrew Zimmern: in much different styles, but we basically



935


00:36:17,568 --> 00:36:21,390


Andrew Zimmern: did the same job and he would sometimes



936


00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:25,645


Andrew Zimmern: call me or send me a text or an email with



937


00:36:25,685 --> 00:36:28,956


Andrew Zimmern: like, yep, I'm going to such and such,



938


00:36:29,025 --> 00:36:30,550


Andrew Zimmern: because he knew that we were trying to get



939


00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:33,967


Andrew Zimmern: in to that country too, and he took



940


00:36:34,308 --> 00:36:38,169


Andrew Zimmern: tremendous pleasure it actually became an



941


00:36:38,269 --> 00:36:41,891


Andrew Zimmern: epic part of his story in landing the



942


00:36:41,972 --> 00:36:44,966


Andrew Zimmern: Beirut show while we were trying to, and I



943


00:36:45,027 --> 00:36:47,374


Andrew Zimmern: took great pleasure in beating him to Cuba



944


00:36:48,006 --> 00:36:51,310


Andrew Zimmern: and to Syria, and he took great pleasure in



945


00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:55,731


Andrew Zimmern: beating me into Iran, and then it closed



946


00:36:55,771 --> 00:36:56,052


Andrew Zimmern: down.



947


00:36:56,185 --> 00:36:57,550


Andrew Zimmern: We were actually on our way.



948


00:36:58,225 --> 00:36:59,990


Andrew Zimmern: We're using the same fixer there, jason



949


00:37:00,031 --> 00:37:02,367


Andrew Zimmern: Rezaian, who is now with the Washington



950


00:37:02,428 --> 00:37:06,430


Andrew Zimmern: Post, and three weeks before we were



951


00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:11,447


Andrew Zimmern: leaving for Tehran, the country closed to



952


00:37:11,468 --> 00:37:16,408


Andrew Zimmern: Americans and Jason was imprisoned, so we



953


00:37:16,449 --> 00:37:17,774


Andrew Zimmern: had a lot to talk about.



954


00:37:17,825 --> 00:37:20,854


Andrew Zimmern: Then we were both parents of kids the same



955


00:37:21,094 --> 00:37:23,169


Andrew Zimmern: age who traveled and never saw our kids.



956


00:37:25,105 --> 00:37:26,852


Andrew Zimmern: We both had experienced divorce.



957


00:37:27,005 --> 00:37:28,952


Andrew Zimmern: We both had experienced so many of the same



958


00:37:29,032 --> 00:37:29,333


Andrew Zimmern: things.



959


00:37:29,845 --> 00:37:32,755


Andrew Zimmern: So as the years went by, we became closer.



960


00:37:32,965 --> 00:37:35,653


Andrew Zimmern: He was an amazing person, the most



961


00:37:35,673 --> 00:37:37,367


Andrew Zimmern: charismatic human being I've ever met.



962


00:37:38,165 --> 00:37:39,350


Marc Preston: I think that the things we talk about



963


00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:41,268


Marc Preston: storytelling and I always kind of reference



964


00:37:41,309 --> 00:37:42,826


Marc Preston: him as sort of like one of those guys would



965


00:37:42,846 --> 00:37:44,728


Marc Preston: be a big brother, one guy it's always



966


00:37:44,748 --> 00:37:46,354


Marc Preston: trying to there's wisdom.



967


00:37:46,665 --> 00:37:48,812


Marc Preston: There is that kind of like storytelling



968


00:37:48,912 --> 00:37:49,695


Marc Preston: referencing books.



969


00:37:49,845 --> 00:37:52,669


Marc Preston: I've never read With you.



970


00:37:52,689 --> 00:37:54,595


Marc Preston: There's this infectious enthusiasm.



971


00:37:55,267 --> 00:37:56,691


Marc Preston: It's a definitely have your own brand,



972


00:37:56,752 --> 00:37:58,909


Marc Preston: without a doubt, but I found so many



973


00:37:58,989 --> 00:38:00,869


Marc Preston: parallels and I think that your shows and



974


00:38:00,889 --> 00:38:03,087


Marc Preston: this is not just, in fact, I know your



975


00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:06,090


Marc Preston: shows are important Because if somebody



976


00:38:06,110 --> 00:38:09,167


Marc Preston: sits down and watches it and goes, oh yeah,



977


00:38:09,207 --> 00:38:10,753


Marc Preston: the food is the common denominator, no



978


00:38:10,793 --> 00:38:13,829


Marc Preston: matter what the culture and the irony is.



979


00:38:13,849 --> 00:38:17,408


Marc Preston: You've done US-based shows, but you've been



980


00:38:17,428 --> 00:38:18,706


Marc Preston: all over the world, but I really think



981


00:38:18,787 --> 00:38:22,846


Marc Preston: right now doing the family dinner idea, I



982


00:38:22,906 --> 00:38:24,031


Marc Preston: think that people watch that.



983


00:38:24,105 --> 00:38:25,801


Marc Preston: I think there needs to be a lot more of



984


00:38:25,841 --> 00:38:27,149


Marc Preston: that right now, at least in the US.



985


00:38:28,166 --> 00:38:29,510


Andrew Zimmern: I agree 100%.



986


00:38:31,006 --> 00:38:32,129


Andrew Zimmern: We've never been.



987


00:38:33,191 --> 00:38:36,448


Andrew Zimmern: I don't hide my age at all, I'm 61.



988


00:38:37,726 --> 00:38:40,395


Andrew Zimmern: And there's never been a time in my life



989


00:38:40,465 --> 00:38:42,612


Andrew Zimmern: where I've been more scared about the



990


00:38:42,672 --> 00:38:44,808


Andrew Zimmern: divisive nature of our culture, our



991


00:38:44,888 --> 00:38:48,206


Andrew Zimmern: politics, every factor of American life, or



992


00:38:48,246 --> 00:38:50,113


Andrew Zimmern: the divide between haves and have nots.



993


00:38:50,165 --> 00:38:52,605


Andrew Zimmern: I mean, it's just division and divide, or



994


00:38:52,646 --> 00:38:54,573


Andrew Zimmern: words I could use so much.



995


00:38:54,625 --> 00:38:58,386


Andrew Zimmern: So anything that I can do, I think it's my



996


00:38:58,446 --> 00:38:59,751


Andrew Zimmern: responsibility in a sense.



997


00:39:00,526 --> 00:39:02,446


Andrew Zimmern: When Magnolia came to us and said we want



998


00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:04,493


Andrew Zimmern: an intuitive content show.



999


00:39:04,533 --> 00:39:06,269


Andrew Zimmern: That's my production company, I immediately



Speaker:

00:39:06,329 --> 00:39:07,193


Andrew Zimmern: said family dinner.



Speaker:

00:39:07,265 --> 00:39:10,032


Andrew Zimmern: Because we put a family dinner in every



Speaker:

00:39:10,112 --> 00:39:11,255


Andrew Zimmern: episode of Bizarre Foods.



Speaker:

00:39:12,465 --> 00:39:14,392


Andrew Zimmern: We didn't label it or circle it, but we put



Speaker:

00:39:14,532 --> 00:39:16,049


Andrew Zimmern: one in there Because I felt it was



Speaker:

00:39:16,089 --> 00:39:17,850


Andrew Zimmern: important and I knew it worked.



Speaker:

00:39:17,885 --> 00:39:19,091


Andrew Zimmern: So I said let's do family dinner.



Speaker:

00:39:19,125 --> 00:39:20,149


Andrew Zimmern: And then they came back to me a couple



Speaker:

00:39:20,169 --> 00:39:21,887


Andrew Zimmern: weeks later and said well, we can't imagine



Speaker:

00:39:21,907 --> 00:39:23,793


Andrew Zimmern: this being hosted by anyone other than you.



Speaker:

00:39:23,833 --> 00:39:24,435


Andrew Zimmern: Would you do it?



Speaker:

00:39:24,885 --> 00:39:29,353


Andrew Zimmern: And I said, sure, and it's a fantastic show



Speaker:

00:39:29,393 --> 00:39:29,775


Andrew Zimmern: that way.



Speaker:

00:39:31,549 --> 00:39:33,434


Andrew Zimmern: And is it at times a little bit saccharine?



Speaker:

00:39:33,635 --> 00:39:38,815


Andrew Zimmern: Sure, is it at times extremely revelatory



Speaker:

00:39:39,416 --> 00:39:41,850


Andrew Zimmern: about who we are and why we do what we do



Speaker:

00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:44,487


Andrew Zimmern: as human beings, absolutely, and everything



Speaker:

00:39:44,527 --> 00:39:45,110


Andrew Zimmern: in between.



Speaker:

00:39:45,525 --> 00:39:48,111


Andrew Zimmern: But I do think it's a show that's ideally



Speaker:

00:39:48,211 --> 00:39:50,436


Andrew Zimmern: suited for now.



Speaker:

00:39:51,665 --> 00:39:54,092


Marc Preston: And speaking of the creation, and of course



Speaker:

00:39:54,172 --> 00:39:57,450


Marc Preston: I narrate TV shows and I understand a lot



Speaker:

00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:58,434


Marc Preston: of the production process.



Speaker:

00:39:58,525 --> 00:39:59,946


Marc Preston: I understand the other sizzle reels Trying



Speaker:

00:39:59,966 --> 00:40:02,849


Marc Preston: to get a show off the ground how many ideas



Speaker:

00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:04,908


Marc Preston: do you sit down, I mean throughout?



Speaker:

00:40:04,928 --> 00:40:07,867


Marc Preston: They'll say the span of a year, and I don't



Speaker:

00:40:07,887 --> 00:40:09,672


Marc Preston: want to say the Marcet's saturated with



Speaker:

00:40:09,813 --> 00:40:11,990


Marc Preston: food programming, it's just there is a lot



Speaker:

00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:13,615


Marc Preston: of options and a lot of different flavors



Speaker:

00:40:13,685 --> 00:40:14,730


Marc Preston: no pun intended out there.



Speaker:

00:40:15,265 --> 00:40:16,691


Marc Preston: How do you come up with your ideas on the



Speaker:

00:40:16,711 --> 00:40:17,233


Marc Preston: span of a year?



Speaker:

00:40:17,325 --> 00:40:18,870


Marc Preston: How many ideas are you coming up with for a



Speaker:

00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:19,994


Marc Preston: concept for a show?



Speaker:

00:40:20,685 --> 00:40:22,773


Marc Preston: And how do you know, like, yes, this one's



Speaker:

00:40:22,825 --> 00:40:24,068


Marc Preston: where I'm going to put my heart into this



Speaker:

00:40:24,189 --> 00:40:24,570


Marc Preston: one thing.



Speaker:

00:40:30,311 --> 00:40:33,458


Andrew Zimmern: Well, I'm blessed to own a production



Speaker:

00:40:33,478 --> 00:40:35,510


Andrew Zimmern: company that's a real screen international



Speaker:

00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:36,413


Andrew Zimmern: 100 company.



Speaker:

00:40:37,365 --> 00:40:41,334


Andrew Zimmern: The development team that is overt



Speaker:

00:40:41,394 --> 00:40:45,712


Andrew Zimmern: intuitive, churns ideas on a weekly basis.



Speaker:

00:40:47,725 --> 00:40:50,347


Andrew Zimmern: Some weeks it's three or four, some weeks



Speaker:

00:40:50,427 --> 00:40:50,990


Andrew Zimmern: it's 10.



Speaker:

00:40:51,565 --> 00:40:54,093


Andrew Zimmern: Because a network has asked for a bunch of



Speaker:

00:40:54,153 --> 00:40:56,850


Andrew Zimmern: log lines on a certain type of show by



Speaker:

00:40:56,930 --> 00:41:01,411


Andrew Zimmern: request, and so we will come up.



Speaker:

00:41:02,805 --> 00:41:04,873


Andrew Zimmern: I mean, look, some get discarded the day



Speaker:

00:41:04,945 --> 00:41:07,908


Andrew Zimmern: after you come up with them, but they will



Speaker:

00:41:08,048 --> 00:41:12,175


Andrew Zimmern: develop 200 ideas across the course of a



Speaker:

00:41:12,235 --> 00:41:17,453


Andrew Zimmern: year beyond someone in a meeting saying,



Speaker:

00:41:17,473 --> 00:41:18,336


Andrew Zimmern: hey, what about this?



Speaker:

00:41:18,545 --> 00:41:20,392


Andrew Zimmern: I mean, science is just one step further



Speaker:

00:41:20,432 --> 00:41:25,690


Andrew Zimmern: than that, but it's discussed and we're



Speaker:

00:41:25,790 --> 00:41:28,557


Andrew Zimmern: lucky if five or six of those become shows.



Speaker:

00:41:29,385 --> 00:41:34,305


Andrew Zimmern: No-transcript.



Speaker:

00:41:36,572 --> 00:41:38,356


Marc Preston: Just one last question regarding Anthony



Speaker:

00:41:38,396 --> 00:41:38,817


Marc Preston: Bourdain.



Speaker:

00:41:39,046 --> 00:41:41,615


Marc Preston: I was curious and naturally, of course, it



Speaker:

00:41:41,656 --> 00:41:42,619


Marc Preston: was sad, it was difficult.



Speaker:

00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,470


Marc Preston: But how did you find out and how did it



Speaker:

00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:46,313


Marc Preston: initially land?



Speaker:

00:41:46,525 --> 00:41:47,788


Marc Preston: Because I know my daughter called me and



Speaker:

00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:49,974


Marc Preston: told me I was like it was a very odd day,



Speaker:

00:41:50,375 --> 00:41:51,687


Marc Preston: to say the very least.



Speaker:

00:41:51,727 --> 00:41:53,914


Marc Preston: But how did that affect you that day?



Speaker:

00:41:54,525 --> 00:41:58,334


Andrew Zimmern: Oh, it was, I mean, horrific.



Speaker:

00:41:59,785 --> 00:42:01,909


Andrew Zimmern: So the night beforehand we had been



Speaker:

00:42:01,989 --> 00:42:06,097


Andrew Zimmern: shooting until 11 midnight in Philadelphia



Speaker:

00:42:07,847 --> 00:42:10,233


Andrew Zimmern: and you know we have to give the crew a



Speaker:

00:42:10,253 --> 00:42:11,396


Andrew Zimmern: certain number of hours off.



Speaker:

00:42:12,045 --> 00:42:16,514


Andrew Zimmern: So my call time, instead of being 7am, was



Speaker:

00:42:16,894 --> 00:42:20,389


Andrew Zimmern: 11.30 or noon and so I was sleeping in.



Speaker:

00:42:21,885 --> 00:42:23,529


Andrew Zimmern: And you know, my alarm goes off at 10,



Speaker:

00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:24,351


Andrew Zimmern: 10.30.



Speaker:

00:42:27,227 --> 00:42:30,576


Andrew Zimmern: And you know you hit your, you know my



Speaker:

00:42:30,676 --> 00:42:31,097


Andrew Zimmern: iPhone.



Speaker:

00:42:31,158 --> 00:42:33,925


Andrew Zimmern: I hit the off button and up pops my home



Speaker:

00:42:34,066 --> 00:42:40,313


Andrew Zimmern: screen and there are what appear to be



Speaker:

00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:45,046


Andrew Zimmern: hundreds of alerts and messages and I



Speaker:

00:42:45,106 --> 00:42:49,187


Andrew Zimmern: immediately panicked Because the only



Speaker:

00:42:49,248 --> 00:42:50,734


Andrew Zimmern: reason I could think of that there would be



Speaker:

00:42:50,854 --> 00:42:54,086


Andrew Zimmern: that much traffic on my phone would be if



Speaker:

00:42:54,126 --> 00:42:55,510


Andrew Zimmern: something had happened to my child and



Speaker:

00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:56,653


Andrew Zimmern: people were trying to get a hold of me.



Speaker:

00:42:59,007 --> 00:43:02,294


Andrew Zimmern: And I grabbed it and there's like phone



Speaker:

00:43:02,314 --> 00:43:04,185


Andrew Zimmern: message, phone message, phone message, and



Speaker:

00:43:04,386 --> 00:43:05,854


Andrew Zimmern: some of them were friends of mine that were



Speaker:

00:43:05,914 --> 00:43:08,105


Andrew Zimmern: reporters, and I was, but they were food



Speaker:

00:43:08,346 --> 00:43:12,134


Andrew Zimmern: side, and then I saw that, then the see it,



Speaker:

00:43:12,174 --> 00:43:13,801


Andrew Zimmern: then the alerts from the news.



Speaker:

00:43:13,925 --> 00:43:15,169


Marc Preston: And your brain's trying to put together



Speaker:

00:43:15,229 --> 00:43:16,853


Marc Preston: quickly what is going on in this.



Speaker:

00:43:16,874 --> 00:43:17,475


Marc Preston: What's going on?



Speaker:

00:43:18,446 --> 00:43:21,310


Andrew Zimmern: And I saw that you know I think I forget



Speaker:

00:43:21,631 --> 00:43:26,699


Andrew Zimmern: which news group I subscribed to so many



Speaker:

00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,909


Andrew Zimmern: came up, were the first line, because you



Speaker:

00:43:28,929 --> 00:43:31,796


Andrew Zimmern: only see a little snippet said Anthony



Speaker:

00:43:31,836 --> 00:43:33,228


Andrew Zimmern: Bourdain, dead at age.



Speaker:

00:43:34,726 --> 00:43:39,566


Andrew Zimmern: And I, I just I was in shock and so I



Speaker:

00:43:39,726 --> 00:43:42,893


Andrew Zimmern: opened up my phone and I saw that several



Speaker:

00:43:44,075 --> 00:43:45,619


Andrew Zimmern: reporters that I knew had called me.



Speaker:

00:43:45,725 --> 00:43:52,516


Andrew Zimmern: I called one of them back and I said you,



Speaker:

00:43:52,677 --> 00:43:54,059


Andrew Zimmern: you left me a message.



Speaker:

00:43:54,926 --> 00:43:56,952


Andrew Zimmern: I said I just woke up what happened.



Speaker:

00:43:58,165 --> 00:44:01,587


Andrew Zimmern: And they filled me in and I wound up.



Speaker:

00:44:03,091 --> 00:44:05,055


Andrew Zimmern: I then called our producers who were with



Speaker:

00:44:05,135 --> 00:44:05,957


Andrew Zimmern: me in Philadelphia.



Speaker:

00:44:06,285 --> 00:44:07,491


Andrew Zimmern: They had, they knew it.



Speaker:

00:44:07,605 --> 00:44:09,313


Andrew Zimmern: They had found out an hour earlier when



Speaker:

00:44:09,334 --> 00:44:11,364


Andrew Zimmern: they got up and they were like, look, if



Speaker:

00:44:11,404 --> 00:44:13,350


Andrew Zimmern: you want to take the day off, we'll just,



Speaker:

00:44:14,212 --> 00:44:15,576


Andrew Zimmern: we'll just cancel today's shoot.



Speaker:

00:44:15,685 --> 00:44:16,869


Andrew Zimmern: And I'm like, absolutely not.



Speaker:

00:44:20,047 --> 00:44:21,210


Andrew Zimmern: And he had given.



Speaker:

00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:22,994


Andrew Zimmern: I gave him a lot of shit about some of his



Speaker:

00:44:23,054 --> 00:44:25,591


Andrew Zimmern: shoes and he had given me a pair of shoes.



Speaker:

00:44:25,645 --> 00:44:27,912


Marc Preston: I actually had them in my bag and I wore



Speaker:

00:44:27,952 --> 00:44:29,791


Marc Preston: the shoes he gave me Were the shoes in the



Speaker:

00:44:29,811 --> 00:44:31,283


Marc Preston: cowboy boots Because I know he had loved



Speaker:

00:44:31,303 --> 00:44:31,565


Marc Preston: cowboy boots.



Speaker:

00:44:31,565 --> 00:44:32,909


Andrew Zimmern: They weren't, they were desert, they were



Speaker:

00:44:32,949 --> 00:44:37,424


Andrew Zimmern: Clark's desert boots, which he had



Speaker:

00:44:37,464 --> 00:44:38,588


Andrew Zimmern: developed an affection for.



Speaker:

00:44:40,687 --> 00:44:44,494


Andrew Zimmern: And I, I called a lot of people back



Speaker:

00:44:44,614 --> 00:44:48,631


Andrew Zimmern: because we delayed our start and I, you



Speaker:

00:44:48,651 --> 00:44:51,043


Andrew Zimmern: know, I checked in with his, with his



Speaker:

00:44:51,123 --> 00:44:54,813


Andrew Zimmern: family, I mean, I was, I knew his wife, his



Speaker:

00:44:54,874 --> 00:44:58,050


Andrew Zimmern: daughter and then, of course, the you know,



Speaker:

00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:01,742


Andrew Zimmern: at 11 o'clock, 10 o'clock that night, we're



Speaker:

00:45:01,822 --> 00:45:03,308


Andrew Zimmern: shooting at Zahav restaurant in



Speaker:

00:45:03,368 --> 00:45:05,931


Andrew Zimmern: Philadelphia At the end of the day, where I



Speaker:

00:45:05,971 --> 00:45:07,580


Andrew Zimmern: was like half paying attention.



Speaker:

00:45:07,620 --> 00:45:09,168


Andrew Zimmern: Every other second I'm on the phone with a



Speaker:

00:45:09,208 --> 00:45:11,267


Andrew Zimmern: reporter or tech me, and part of the



Speaker:

00:45:11,307 --> 00:45:15,015


Andrew Zimmern: responsibility I felt was so many people



Speaker:

00:45:15,035 --> 00:45:17,348


Andrew Zimmern: are going to give the wrong impression, say



Speaker:

00:45:17,388 --> 00:45:20,536


Andrew Zimmern: the wrong thing, do the wrong thing.



Speaker:

00:45:21,185 --> 00:45:22,610


Marc Preston: But you're in a unique position to give



Speaker:

00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:23,673


Marc Preston: wonderful context.



Speaker:

00:45:24,866 --> 00:45:30,154


Andrew Zimmern: Well, and so so I I felt that it was okay



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Andrew Zimmern: for me to to respond to a lot of these.



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Andrew Zimmern: You know, everyone wanted my take on it.



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Andrew Zimmern: Now, you have to remember he's Tony's



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Andrew Zimmern: traveling with his best friend, eric Repair.



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Andrew Zimmern: Eric's not available.



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Andrew Zimmern: Eric, I mean, it's just, it's just horrific



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Andrew Zimmern: so, and the family's non responsive.



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Andrew Zimmern: So it it it.



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Andrew Zimmern: Then it falls to tier two, friends to sort



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Andrew Zimmern: of like put the kibosh in the right thing,



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Andrew Zimmern: you know, and do the, you know, make sure



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Andrew Zimmern: that that the right thing is done.



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Andrew Zimmern: And so, and I wound up going on a couple



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Andrew Zimmern: CNN shows.



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Andrew Zimmern: You know, that night they sent a live truck



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Andrew Zimmern: over to the restaurant that we were at and



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Andrew Zimmern: you know, I did a couple of a couple of



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Andrew Zimmern: those shows and it was just, it was a very,



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Andrew Zimmern: very, very sad night.



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Andrew Zimmern: I I can certainly say that not only was he



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Andrew Zimmern: the most charismatic human being I ever met,



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Andrew Zimmern: but I think he's one of the most important



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Andrew Zimmern: voices of of my generation and I think, you



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Andrew Zimmern: know, 50, 100 years from now, they will



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Andrew Zimmern: still be selling his books and talking



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Andrew Zimmern: about him in the same way that we do now.



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Marc Preston: I couldn't agree more and I think that it



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Marc Preston: will have to be, with time, that people can



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Marc Preston: look back.



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Marc Preston: Like I said, there were the same thing with



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Marc Preston: the shows you create.



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Andrew Zimmern: They do create not only insight, but it's



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Andrew Zimmern: also a time capsule and to a degree, I



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Andrew Zimmern: think that so he he wanted to craft art



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Andrew Zimmern: pieces out of a lot of his shows you know,



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Andrew Zimmern: and you know the black and white show and



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Andrew Zimmern: he let me know like all the different



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Andrew Zimmern: things that he would do to try to be



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Andrew Zimmern: creative was fantastic.



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Marc Preston: Did you think the Roadrunner documentary



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Marc Preston: for the, for the layperson, do you think



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Marc Preston: them watching that that they got it pretty



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Marc Preston: right?



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Marc Preston: As far as articulating the Anthony Borden



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Marc Preston: experience, Did the Roadrunner documentary



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Marc Preston: got that done?



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Andrew Zimmern: To be honest with you, and I've tried a



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Andrew Zimmern: couple of times, I've not been able to get



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Andrew Zimmern: more than halfway through it.



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Andrew Zimmern: I mean the and and and part of that is and



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Andrew Zimmern: I have.



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Andrew Zimmern: I'm not one of those people who has a, who



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Andrew Zimmern: has a problem with them.



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Andrew Zimmern: You know, using AI to have him narrate,



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Andrew Zimmern: hear his voice, narrating things he wrote.



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Andrew Zimmern: I, you know, I, you know I don't have



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Andrew Zimmern: quibbles with that kind of thing.



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Andrew Zimmern: I, I just, you know I knew him, I, I, he



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Andrew Zimmern: was my friend, I and so other people have



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Andrew Zimmern: to decide for themselves.



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Andrew Zimmern: My understanding is from a lot of people.



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Andrew Zimmern: For the most part, they did get it right



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Andrew Zimmern: and certainly gave enough of a taste of it.



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Andrew Zimmern: I you know, but I've not been able to to



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Andrew Zimmern: make it through it and I've tried several



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Andrew Zimmern: times.



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Andrew Zimmern: I just I run out of of emotional energy for



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Andrew Zimmern: it.



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Andrew Zimmern: It's not that I get upset and have to turn



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Andrew Zimmern: it off.



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Andrew Zimmern: I, I just I have no desire to watch and I



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Andrew Zimmern: know it's only one of a handful of people



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Andrew Zimmern: that may be able to, to say that, just like,



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Andrew Zimmern: I've no interest in in seeing it and it's



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Andrew Zimmern: not a knock against them.



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Marc Preston: There's only one episode of parts unknown I



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Marc Preston: haven't seen.



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Marc Preston: It's the New Orleans episode.



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Marc Preston: I guess I, you know I'm Texas boy but I



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Marc Preston: live in New Orleans.



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Marc Preston: Now I've been here for quite some time and



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Marc Preston: and I remember one of his episodes he went



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Marc Preston: to a restaurant that was the best muff lot



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Marc Preston: in New Orleans.



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Marc Preston: You know he, he was like you do the same



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Marc Preston: thing.



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Marc Preston: You're not doing the travel guide way of



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Marc Preston: doing things, you know, and I remember



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Marc Preston: thinking that's I just can't bring myself



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Marc Preston: to watch that episode, just the most.



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Marc Preston: The most recent episode on the the no



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Marc Preston: reservation show.



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Marc Preston: I watched the New Orleans.



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Marc Preston: He always got it right, and you do as well,



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Marc Preston: and when we were, you know, when I travel



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Marc Preston: somewhere I inevitably I'm going to look up



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Marc Preston: what did Andrew go there?



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Marc Preston: Let me go watch that episode.



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Marc Preston: Thank God for streaming and I've got



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00:49:30,154 --> 00:49:31,079


Marc Preston: Discovery, which I'm a big fan of.



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00:49:31,099 --> 00:49:32,989


Marc Preston: The Discovery Plus app I made five bucks a



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00:49:33,029 --> 00:49:35,099


Marc Preston: month is not trying to sell them, but it's



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Marc Preston: it's, of all the streamers out there really



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Marc Preston: has got a lot of content.



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Andrew Zimmern: Well, massive, massive library, and now



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Andrew Zimmern: that they've added you know, now the Warner



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00:49:43,764 --> 00:49:46,487


Andrew Zimmern: Brothers side is on there the movies and I,



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Andrew Zimmern: I I'm not going to disagree with you, of



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Andrew Zimmern: course, as someone who made four or five



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Andrew Zimmern: shows in New Orleans, I'm dying to know



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Andrew Zimmern: you're you're going to have to watch some



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Andrew Zimmern: of mine and tell me if I got any of it



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Andrew Zimmern: right, but I will.



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Andrew Zimmern: I will say this there is a restaurant that



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Andrew Zimmern: I subs, after being taken there and getting



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Andrew Zimmern: turned on to it by a chef friend, have



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Andrew Zimmern: visited on every time that I've gone back



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Andrew Zimmern: there and that's R and O's out on the levy



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Andrew Zimmern: and mettery.



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Marc Preston: What?



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Marc Preston: Okay, see now.



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Marc Preston: Now you're a local.



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Marc Preston: If you know R and O's, it's not sexy, it's.



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Marc Preston: You know it's not, you know it it.



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Andrew Zimmern: but it is a local's place, it's incredible



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Andrew Zimmern: that I actually, in an episode that I shot



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Andrew Zimmern: there, I got up and stood in the middle of



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Andrew Zimmern: the dining room at lunch.



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Andrew Zimmern: There's 200 people in there, it's mobbed,



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Andrew Zimmern: lined of people out the door and I stood up



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Andrew Zimmern: all local, by the way and I and I stood up



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Andrew Zimmern: and I quieted everyone down.



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Andrew Zimmern: Cameras are rolling and I said is there



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Andrew Zimmern: anyone here who's not a local and a regular?



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Andrew Zimmern: And not a single hand went up and I just



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Andrew Zimmern: like raised my hand and everyone laughed.



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Andrew Zimmern: It was a great moment in the show but just



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Andrew Zimmern: to, there was no other way to illustrate to



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Andrew Zimmern: my audience how much of kind of like an



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Andrew Zimmern: insider's place it was and it's great.



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Andrew Zimmern: I mean fried seafood and gumbo and a beef,



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Andrew Zimmern: an unha.



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Andrew Zimmern: It's never on anyone's list of best po-boys,



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Andrew Zimmern: but they have a fried oyster po-boy, a



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Andrew Zimmern: fried shrimp po-boy, but their beef po-boy



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Andrew Zimmern: is what all my chef friends go there for



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00:51:24,864 --> 00:51:28,248


Andrew Zimmern: because of their gravy, and I have one



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00:51:28,328 --> 00:51:30,935


Andrew Zimmern: friend who does an oyster and it's a surf



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Andrew Zimmern: and turf, he does fried oysters and beef



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Andrew Zimmern: with beef gravy and I'm just it's mind



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Andrew Zimmern: bogglingly good.



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Andrew Zimmern: I just, I love everything about R&O.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, that is.



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Marc Preston: It's every ages in there too.



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Marc Preston: You know it's, you can tell it's a local



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Marc Preston: sport.



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Marc Preston: There's a place next to it called Deenies.



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Marc Preston: I think you may have gone to Deenies.



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Marc Preston: I seem to remember I did not.



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Andrew Zimmern: But if there's a place next, this is what's



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Andrew Zimmern: so great about life.



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Andrew Zimmern: Someone says to you oh, have you been to



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Andrew Zimmern: the place next door?



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Andrew Zimmern: It's like, well, no, I haven't because I



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Andrew Zimmern: don't live there.



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Andrew Zimmern: So whenever I go, I go to R&Os.



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Andrew Zimmern: I'm not going there to go to the place next



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Andrew Zimmern: door.



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Andrew Zimmern: And now I'm like check out the place next



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Andrew Zimmern: door.



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Marc Preston: I will tell you that very few things turn



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Marc Preston: me.



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Marc Preston: I mean living in New Orleans.



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Marc Preston: I will say this, being a Dallas boy, having



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Marc Preston: lived and worked in Los Angeles as well,



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Marc Preston: having been here about on and off about 20



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Marc Preston: years, I can tell you that two things.



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Marc Preston: I'm tired of seeing them open up or po-boy



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Marc Preston: places and daiquiri shops, because they're



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Marc Preston: everywhere, everybody does it, and once you



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Marc Preston: have a place that starts doing something



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Marc Preston: really well, it's, I imagine, philadelphia



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Marc Preston: cheese steaks A lot everybody starts doing



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Marc Preston: them, but they're the kind of elite few.



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Marc Preston: And there's this place, dinis, they do



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Marc Preston: something.



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Marc Preston: They do a barbecue shrimp po-boy and it's



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Marc Preston: not barbecue like barbecue sauce, it's a



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Marc Preston: buttload of butter, and oh yeah.



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Marc Preston: And you go there, and you go just take a



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Marc Preston: bottle of Lipitor, go to town on it,



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Marc Preston: because if you don't, you're missing out.



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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, and I love, I love New Orleans style



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Andrew Zimmern: barbecue shrimp and a cast iron pan with



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Andrew Zimmern: lots of rosemary and butter.



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Andrew Zimmern: And you know, you know that's one of the



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Andrew Zimmern: things I wanted to ask you about is that



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Andrew Zimmern: you've been to New Orleans.



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Marc Preston: They cannot replicate what's in New Orleans



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Marc Preston: anywhere else on earth the way it is in New



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Marc Preston: Orleans.



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Marc Preston: But the thing is, if you want something



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Marc Preston: besides the unique fine dining the



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Marc Preston: Antoine's, galatois, things like that it's



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Marc Preston: a little bit more of a challenge to find



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Marc Preston: those ethnic kind of places that are not



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Marc Preston: and I don't know the phrase for it.



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Marc Preston: Maybe you can help me out, but I can't.



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Marc Preston: It's almost like gentrified food where,



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Marc Preston: yeah, oh, they have I'm not saying this



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Marc Preston: necessarily the case, but let's say African.



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Marc Preston: Well, it's going to be a little bit out of



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Marc Preston: the reach for the average person because



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Marc Preston: it's going to be a little bit more on the



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Marc Preston: fancy side.



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Marc Preston: Where you go to New York you want great



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Marc Preston: Indian to ask your cab driver, you're going



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Marc Preston: to go spend five bucks and have a full meal,



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Marc Preston: you know.



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Marc Preston: But that's the one thing about New Orleans.



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Marc Preston: I wish we had more stuff from elsewhere,



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Marc Preston: you know.



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Andrew Zimmern: Well, but people, new Orleans is the.



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Andrew Zimmern: There's only a couple cities in the world



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Andrew Zimmern: that I believe fit this bill.



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Andrew Zimmern: When you shut your eyes and you say the



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Andrew Zimmern: word New Orleans twice out loud, you can



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Andrew Zimmern: smell it and taste it, and you cannot say



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Andrew Zimmern: that about other cities.



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Andrew Zimmern: And the reason is is because the food is



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Andrew Zimmern: its own.



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Andrew Zimmern: I don't, you know, nobody goes to.



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Andrew Zimmern: I've had friends go to Beijing and ask me



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Andrew Zimmern: for a great place for a hamburger, because



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Andrew Zimmern: they don't want to eat Chinese food all the



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Andrew Zimmern: time, and I said why?



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Andrew Zimmern: The first of all?



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Andrew Zimmern: I think it's a ridiculous question,



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Andrew Zimmern: ridiculous supposition, and I personally am



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Andrew Zimmern: so offended when anyone I know asked me



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Andrew Zimmern: that question.



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Andrew Zimmern: But no one goes down to New Orleans and



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Andrew Zimmern: says, geez, do you know a good Japanese



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Andrew Zimmern: place for you know now, I'm sure, locals



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Andrew Zimmern: down there like you just expressed wished



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Andrew Zimmern: you had God.



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Andrew Zimmern: Sometimes I just feel like a great



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Andrew Zimmern: schnitzel, you know.



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Marc Preston: But God, that is almost like weird.



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Marc Preston: You say that I literally was watching



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Marc Preston: something a couple days ago of you you had.



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Marc Preston: It was some kind of a German thing where



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Marc Preston: they had oh God it was, I don't mean to



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Marc Preston: interrupt the schnitzel sandwich at the



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Marc Preston: State Fair.



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Andrew Zimmern: No, it was on my Instagram.



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Marc Preston: No, it was bits and pieces of shit.



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Marc Preston: Okay, I can't remember, but it was.



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Marc Preston: I was thinking schnitzel and.



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Marc Preston: Spatula and things like that.



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Marc Preston: I'm like, oh, those are kind of things.



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Andrew Zimmern: My point is my point is that you know New



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Andrew Zimmern: Orleans, like Portland Maine, where my dad



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Andrew Zimmern: retires, one of those cities that has a



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Andrew Zimmern: very small population yet has I mean, what



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Andrew Zimmern: does New Orleans get?



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Andrew Zimmern: 24 million?



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Marc Preston: visitors a year.



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Andrew Zimmern: It's an ungodly thing.



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Andrew Zimmern: And so, relative to the residential



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Andrew Zimmern: population, new Orleans has the most number



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Andrew Zimmern: of restaurants.



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Andrew Zimmern: This is, pre-covid, the most number of



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Andrew Zimmern: restaurants in any city in America per



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Andrew Zimmern: capita, because, just like Portland Maine,



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Andrew Zimmern: it fills up with people.



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Andrew Zimmern: Except New Orleans fills up 10 months a



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Andrew Zimmern: year, portland Maine only three months,



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Andrew Zimmern: four months a year, and so, consequently,



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Andrew Zimmern: everybody wants to eat there, and you also



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Andrew Zimmern: have to remember that even you know America



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Andrew Zimmern: is some of the most beloved food in America,



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Andrew Zimmern: which is Italian food.



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Andrew Zimmern: I mean globally a favorite has developed



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Andrew Zimmern: its own hybridized style.



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Andrew Zimmern: There is a unique aspect to the New Orleans



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Andrew Zimmern: Italian restaurants that can be certain



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Andrew Zimmern: style.



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Andrew Zimmern: And there's a lot of the Creole tinge,



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Andrew Zimmern: which is different than Cajun, has sort of



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Andrew Zimmern: flown in there, and you know it's.



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Andrew Zimmern: You take someone who says, oh, are we going



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Andrew Zimmern: to eat Italian food tonight?



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Andrew Zimmern: Sure, and you take them to Chujox and it's.



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Andrew Zimmern: You watch their eyes roll back in their



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Andrew Zimmern: head and they're like this isn't Italian.



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Andrew Zimmern: And you're like, well, right, but it's New



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Andrew Zimmern: Orleans, right, I mean.



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Andrew Zimmern: So there's so many places like that.



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Andrew Zimmern: I'm a big fan of that town.



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Marc Preston: People understand Jefferson Parish.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, jefferson Parish is very.



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Marc Preston: They even have the Irish Italian parade



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Marc Preston: here.



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Marc Preston: I mean Italian, a lot of influences.



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Marc Preston: But I will tell you the next time you're in



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Marc Preston: there is.



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Marc Preston: We're kind of wrapping up here, but I do



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Marc Preston: have to tell you next time you're in New



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Marc Preston: Orleans I wouldn't be a.



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Marc Preston: Well, I think I've been through Katrina and



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Marc Preston: all the hurricanes.



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Marc Preston: I feel like I've earned my stripes here.



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Marc Preston: You know, sure, anthony Bourdain went there



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Marc Preston: and I knew he got.



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Marc Preston: He did what the smart people do in New



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Marc Preston: Orleans and get a cab driver.



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Marc Preston: It's kind of old, maybe a little crusty.



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Marc Preston: Ask them where they eat, because it's



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Marc Preston: always great.



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Marc Preston: Sure, I mean, there's a lot of sandwich



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Marc Preston: place called Norgeo.



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Marc Preston: It's an old metteried.



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Marc Preston: Everybody goes to the French Quarter to get



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Marc Preston: it.



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Marc Preston: But this is just, it is unique.



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00:57:44,148 --> 00:57:46,562


Marc Preston: It's got that olive dress, all of salad,



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00:57:46,582 --> 00:57:48,614


Marc Preston: the kind of thing it's just I'm thinking



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Marc Preston: about.



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Marc Preston: I mean, you tell I haven't had anything to



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Marc Preston: eat today so far.



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Marc Preston: So, because I'm now I'm thinking about



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Marc Preston: eating one of those, but it is truly the



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00:57:55,335 --> 00:57:57,384


Marc Preston: one of the best sandwiches I've ever had,



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Marc Preston: you know.



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Marc Preston: So my, actually, in the way they New



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Marc Preston: Orleans makes it unique is the street I



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00:58:02,006 --> 00:58:02,910


Marc Preston: used to live on an old man.



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Marc Preston: It was like the three doors down from it



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00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:07,187


Marc Preston: and literally down the street is Is



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00:58:07,247 --> 00:58:09,293


Marc Preston: somebody converted their garage into an



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Marc Preston: actual functioning bar.



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00:58:11,226 --> 00:58:12,370


Marc Preston: So that's one of the things you find in New



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00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:12,811


Marc Preston: Orleans.



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00:58:12,831 --> 00:58:15,287


Marc Preston: You know you're gonna have somebody In



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00:58:15,308 --> 00:58:17,075


Marc Preston: there and their garage is converted.



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00:58:17,216 --> 00:58:18,481


Marc Preston: Now people come and drink there.



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00:58:18,521 --> 00:58:21,430


Marc Preston: It's just bizarre, yeah, but um, it was a



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00:58:21,470 --> 00:58:22,853


Marc Preston: wrap up, one of the things I love to do as



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Marc Preston: my my my quick seven questions.



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Marc Preston: As to the first one, I'm talking probably



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00:58:28,032 --> 00:58:29,816


Marc Preston: number one person on planet Earth right now



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00:58:29,836 --> 00:58:31,734


Marc Preston: when I ask this question what is your



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00:58:31,795 --> 00:58:32,825


Marc Preston: favorite comfort food?



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Andrew Zimmern: It's my grandmother's roast chicken that I



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00:58:36,014 --> 00:58:36,295


Andrew Zimmern: make.



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00:58:36,816 --> 00:58:39,383


Andrew Zimmern: Now that my father made it, then I make it,



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00:58:39,664 --> 00:58:43,134


Andrew Zimmern: and I Still eat it twice a week really a



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00:58:43,194 --> 00:58:46,529


Andrew Zimmern: whole chicken mm-hmm, with pan gravy and



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00:58:47,151 --> 00:58:49,076


Andrew Zimmern: it's I mean, it's chicken, little two and a



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00:58:49,116 --> 00:58:52,132


Andrew Zimmern: half pounder, you know, but it feeds two or



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00:58:52,172 --> 00:58:52,754


Andrew Zimmern: three people.



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00:58:52,815 --> 00:58:54,482


Andrew Zimmern: But I have to make my grandmother's onion



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00:58:54,522 --> 00:58:55,185


Andrew Zimmern: pan gravy.



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00:58:55,807 --> 00:58:58,136


Andrew Zimmern: It has to be done her way, seasoned, her



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Andrew Zimmern: way.



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00:58:58,558 --> 00:59:00,104


Andrew Zimmern: Now have I refined it a little bit?



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00:59:00,204 --> 00:59:05,171


Andrew Zimmern: Sure, but I haven't chef-y did up, as some



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00:59:05,211 --> 00:59:07,140


Andrew Zimmern: people like to say, it's still her chicken.



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Marc Preston: Where are your people from, though I've



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Marc Preston: always been curious about that Germany,



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Marc Preston: germany, okay.



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Andrew Zimmern: Well, they came over here in the 1840s, so



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Andrew Zimmern: you know it's it long time ago.



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Marc Preston: Okay, cuz my word, the Ukrainians, actually



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Marc Preston: everybody, they say, you know, jews from



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Marc Preston: Europe.



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Marc Preston: They all came through New York.



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Marc Preston: No, there's a big contingent.



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Andrew Zimmern: Came through New Orleans or a mobile



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Andrew Zimmern: Alabama, or you know mine came through



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00:59:28,102 --> 00:59:30,647


Andrew Zimmern: Charleston, south Carolina, and that's why



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00:59:30,688 --> 00:59:32,771


Andrew Zimmern: they wound up in Atlanta and then, after



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Andrew Zimmern: the Civil War, walked to New York.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, we were.



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Marc Preston: We came through Galveston.



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Marc Preston: So yeah, that's it's.



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Marc Preston: It's an interesting documentary called



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00:59:40,965 --> 00:59:41,847


Marc Preston: Shalom y'all.



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Marc Preston: The Odyssey is sometimes kind of funny



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00:59:43,251 --> 00:59:43,772


Marc Preston: about all these.



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Marc Preston: Oh yeah, no, love it.



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Marc Preston: Second question I got, you got a table,



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Marc Preston: four seats, you, three other people you



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00:59:50,068 --> 00:59:51,375


Marc Preston: want to talk story for a few hours.



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Marc Preston: Who are those three people, living or not?



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Marc Preston: Who would you love to kind of get together



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00:59:55,855 --> 00:59:57,822


Marc Preston: and just talk about life with for a while?



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Andrew Zimmern: Wow, well, I'm just gonna.



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Andrew Zimmern: I have to give myself boundaries, otherwise



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Andrew Zimmern: it's an endless.



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Andrew Zimmern: You know I'm one of those people who has



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Andrew Zimmern: collected detail for so long.



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Andrew Zimmern: I can't.



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Andrew Zimmern: It would be staggering, because I do have a



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Andrew Zimmern: historical set, but I'll just go with a



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01:00:14,592 --> 01:00:15,434


Andrew Zimmern: contemporary set.



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Andrew Zimmern: I'd like to have dinner with David Simon,



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01:00:21,327 --> 01:00:26,577


Andrew Zimmern: who created the wire, amongst other, in in



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01:00:27,005 --> 01:00:31,367


Andrew Zimmern: Incredible, incredible shows, james



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01:00:31,428 --> 01:00:44,115


Andrew Zimmern: Carville and David Simon, james Carville



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Andrew Zimmern: and I'll go with.



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Andrew Zimmern: I'll go with Tony Blair really okay.



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Andrew Zimmern: Well, here's why.



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Andrew Zimmern: Here's why Simon from Baltimore and and



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Andrew Zimmern: brilliant, by the way is his finest social,



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Andrew Zimmern: my favorite social commentator perhaps,



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Andrew Zimmern: with his work.



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Marc Preston: We did it.



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Andrew Zimmern: He did from a, also, I think, on HBO,



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Andrew Zimmern: didn't oh yeah, phenomenal, yeah, and you



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Andrew Zimmern: know James Carville because I adore him and



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Andrew Zimmern: I just would like to be able to break bread



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Andrew Zimmern: With him.



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Andrew Zimmern: But I need someone for all of us to ask



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Andrew Zimmern: questions of who would fill in blank spots



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Andrew Zimmern: and from an international, a non American



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Andrew Zimmern: perspective.



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Andrew Zimmern: And I'm lucky enough to work Sometimes with



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Andrew Zimmern: David Miliband, because I do work with the



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Andrew Zimmern: International Rescue Committee and he was



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Andrew Zimmern: Blair's secretary you know, foreign



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Andrew Zimmern: secretary and you know I get chance to talk



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Andrew Zimmern: to him sometimes and Tony Blair is just a



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Andrew Zimmern: fascinating guy but he knows where all the



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Andrew Zimmern: bodies are buried.



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Andrew Zimmern: I want to talk to him about Then and now



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Andrew Zimmern: you know Tony Blair is great because he was



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Andrew Zimmern: a.



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Marc Preston: He was the prime minister when we were



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Marc Preston: going through from.



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Marc Preston: You know different political swings in the



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Marc Preston: US but he did.



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Marc Preston: He come in right after Margaret Thatcher.



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Marc Preston: I'm trying to remember my okay.



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Announcer: So he, you know she had her thing.



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Marc Preston: She was a Reagan era, you know, but he he



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Marc Preston: kind of wrote a lot of our modern history.



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Marc Preston: You know, I could definitely but a James



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Marc Preston: Carville.



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Marc Preston: I saw him the other day.



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Marc Preston: I wish more note news folks would be



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01:02:26,212 --> 01:02:28,578


Marc Preston: getting him on giving commentary because I



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Marc Preston: mean it's Theatrical common sense, you know



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Marc Preston: he's guys.



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Marc Preston: Just I love the way he articulates himself.



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Andrew Zimmern: He's the best.



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Marc Preston: Now next question who is your first when



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Marc Preston: you were kid?



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Marc Preston: Who was your first celebrity crush?



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Andrew Zimmern: My first celebrity crush, oh my gosh.



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Andrew Zimmern: Well, I mean not to not to put two Fine a



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Andrew Zimmern: point on it, but you know I'm 61, so the



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Andrew Zimmern: first celebrities that I ever saw that I



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01:02:59,684 --> 01:03:03,634


Andrew Zimmern: was Attracted to were in the Playboy



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Andrew Zimmern: magazine's annual movies issue, and Movies



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01:03:10,767 --> 01:03:14,575


Andrew Zimmern: you know the sex in movies issue, and so



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Andrew Zimmern: they, they always had, you know, incredible.



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Andrew Zimmern: You know that it was, and they were screen



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Andrew Zimmern: grabs of topless actresses and and, and so



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Andrew Zimmern: there were, and there were.



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Andrew Zimmern: I mean this was.



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Andrew Zimmern: I mean you have to see, this is through the



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01:03:30,788 --> 01:03:34,887


Andrew Zimmern: lens of a 13 year old boy, right, it was



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Andrew Zimmern: which is a very vibrant lens.



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Andrew Zimmern: Yes, it is.



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Andrew Zimmern: It is a very vibrant lens and 1974



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Andrew Zimmern: Jacqueline Bissette was about as as good as



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Andrew Zimmern: it got for me at that time.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, I, yeah.



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Marc Preston: Somebody the other day brought up something



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Marc Preston: which I don't think many guys might.



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Marc Preston: I'm a little younger than you are, but I,



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Marc Preston: but somebody brought up Haley Mills.



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Marc Preston: I was like, oh man, but anyway, I was



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Marc Preston: thinking as when I was young, well, I



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Marc Preston: didn't realize shows that were shot in the



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Marc Preston: 60s.



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Marc Preston: You know, before you get a little older,



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Marc Preston: you know 9, 10, 11, you know you start



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Marc Preston: realizing, oh, wait a minute, this person's



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Marc Preston: much older.



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Marc Preston: One last questions is if you're gonna be on



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Marc Preston: an island for a year, an island you love



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01:04:15,738 --> 01:04:17,505


Marc Preston: being on, but there is no streaming.



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Marc Preston: You can only bring one DVD to watch a movie,



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Marc Preston: one movie, and you can only bring one CD or



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Marc Preston: an album.



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Marc Preston: You know what?



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Marc Preston: What's that movie, what's that album I'm



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01:04:26,934 --> 01:04:28,778


Marc Preston: gonna be for you to hang on to for a year?



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01:04:28,825 --> 01:04:32,877


Andrew Zimmern: the movies gotta be Godfather parts one and



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01:04:32,994 --> 01:04:35,635


Andrew Zimmern: two, because they are sold together on a



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01:04:35,753 --> 01:04:37,068


Andrew Zimmern: single DVD set.



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Andrew Zimmern: So I'm going to, I'm gonna twist, I'm gonna



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01:04:39,269 --> 01:04:40,192


Andrew Zimmern: tweak that a little bit.



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Marc Preston: Have you seen the offer on a Paramount Plus



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01:04:43,712 --> 01:04:44,233


Marc Preston: by chance?



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Andrew Zimmern: brilliant.



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Andrew Zimmern: It's brilliant.



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01:04:47,007 --> 01:04:51,774


Andrew Zimmern: So you know, I think that's the movie.



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Andrew Zimmern: And then For music, that is just.



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Andrew Zimmern: That's painful for someone who is such a



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01:04:59,717 --> 01:05:03,389


Andrew Zimmern: music geek Like I'll see the guitar behind



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Andrew Zimmern: you.



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Marc Preston: Is that for decoration or do you play?



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Andrew Zimmern: I do play.



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Andrew Zimmern: That's actually a Paul McCartney Signed



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Andrew Zimmern: guitar that I got four or five years ago



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Andrew Zimmern: when he was in Minneapolis.



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Andrew Zimmern: Um yeah, it's a nice flex, right?



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Andrew Zimmern: Oh yeah, that's my, that's my Paul



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01:05:19,217 --> 01:05:25,892


Andrew Zimmern: McCartney autographed Guitar very nice,



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01:05:25,972 --> 01:05:27,617


Andrew Zimmern: which I which, which I'm a big.



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Andrew Zimmern: I'm a big fan of that one.



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Marc Preston: Well, it's a baseball bat, so I'm imagining



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01:05:32,455 --> 01:05:32,616


Marc Preston: it's.



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Marc Preston: You got the music, you got the sports you



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01:05:34,290 --> 01:05:35,979


Marc Preston: know I got that, I've got the whole thing.



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Andrew Zimmern: But you can see I I Think well, it's hard



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01:05:39,510 --> 01:05:42,316


Andrew Zimmern: to pick up, but he signed it in silver on



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01:05:42,336 --> 01:05:43,579


Andrew Zimmern: the black edging there.



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01:05:45,346 --> 01:05:47,153


Andrew Zimmern: So I think I'll tell you the.



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Andrew Zimmern: This is gonna sound a little goofy, but I



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01:05:54,354 --> 01:05:58,107


Andrew Zimmern: would go with the band's last waltz Because



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01:05:58,127 --> 01:06:00,334


Andrew Zimmern: it's got a lot of the music that I love and



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01:06:00,394 --> 01:06:02,662


Andrew Zimmern: I can sing along with every song and it.



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01:06:02,983 --> 01:06:04,988


Andrew Zimmern: It's got quiet, tender moments and it



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01:06:05,068 --> 01:06:06,832


Andrew Zimmern: stomps like a son of a bitch when you



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01:06:06,872 --> 01:06:07,373


Andrew Zimmern: wanted to.



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01:06:07,854 --> 01:06:09,538


Andrew Zimmern: So I'll go with the band's last waltz.



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Marc Preston: Well, yeah, I'm thinking with the area



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01:06:11,692 --> 01:06:12,314


Marc Preston: you're going up in.



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Marc Preston: You were like I was born in 73.



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01:06:15,794 --> 01:06:16,336


Announcer: Yeah, now so.



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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, well, I noticed that the 70s kind of



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Andrew Zimmern: passed me by a little bit, but you were



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Andrew Zimmern: right in the thick of it, you know, as far



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01:06:25,475 --> 01:06:27,563


Andrew Zimmern: as music, oh, I was we would go on weekends



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01:06:27,644 --> 01:06:30,553


Andrew Zimmern: to see you know Pink Floyd, one weekend Led



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01:06:30,593 --> 01:06:32,439


Andrew Zimmern: Zeppelin, the next weekend at the garden,



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01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,390


Andrew Zimmern: and then on Thursday night You'd go see the



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01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:39,956


Andrew Zimmern: Ramones or you know whatever other punk



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01:06:39,976 --> 01:06:40,137


Andrew Zimmern: music.



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Marc Preston: I'm married when I saw you're, you're,



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01:06:42,164 --> 01:06:43,975


Marc Preston: that's right, you're all the nights I saw



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01:06:44,136 --> 01:06:45,183


Marc Preston: all the night around zero.



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Andrew Zimmern: Oh yeah, I saw all the nights of you know



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Andrew Zimmern: the clash at bonds, I mean, I mean just on



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01:06:49,873 --> 01:06:50,556


Andrew Zimmern: and on and on.



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Andrew Zimmern: It was so you're a CBGB once or twice yeah



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01:06:53,326 --> 01:06:55,551


Andrew Zimmern: no many, because all our older brothers and



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01:06:55,611 --> 01:06:58,416


Andrew Zimmern: sisters of my friends would take us to



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Andrew Zimmern: those places when we were 10, 12, 13, 14.



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01:07:02,747 --> 01:07:05,807


Andrew Zimmern: So first first Concert I saw without my



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01:07:05,867 --> 01:07:08,773


Andrew Zimmern: parents was 72, the brown sugar tour that



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01:07:08,833 --> 01:07:10,116


Andrew Zimmern: the Stones did.



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01:07:10,176 --> 01:07:12,967


Andrew Zimmern: Because my friend's older sister took us In



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01:07:13,007 --> 01:07:15,154


Andrew Zimmern: where Mick was riding the giant inflatable



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01:07:15,215 --> 01:07:18,353


Andrew Zimmern: tongue On stage and I thought I died and



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Andrew Zimmern: went to heaven.



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Marc Preston: I do envy folks a little bit.



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01:07:21,192 --> 01:07:22,896


Marc Preston: You know the folks are a little bit older



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01:07:25,285 --> 01:07:27,471


Marc Preston: Gen X, you know, to a little bit older than



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01:07:27,491 --> 01:07:27,993


Marc Preston: that they got.



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01:07:28,073 --> 01:07:29,457


Marc Preston: They got a good musical hit there.



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01:07:30,446 --> 01:07:32,592


Marc Preston: Now the next question is if you're gonna be



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Marc Preston: from the time you wake up, time you go to



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01:07:34,337 --> 01:07:36,188


Marc Preston: sleep, definition of a perfect day, or the



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01:07:36,228 --> 01:07:37,451


Marc Preston: component parts for you.



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01:07:38,153 --> 01:07:39,376


Marc Preston: You're like this was a good day.



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01:07:39,777 --> 01:07:40,378


Marc Preston: What's that for you?



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01:07:44,217 --> 01:07:46,163


Andrew Zimmern: Well, I had one Friday I went to.



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01:07:46,203 --> 01:07:48,219


Andrew Zimmern: I went to work, had a decent morning,



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01:07:48,865 --> 01:07:49,809


Andrew Zimmern: bugged out and did something I really



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01:07:51,095 --> 01:07:51,497


Andrew Zimmern: wanted to do.



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01:07:51,557 --> 01:07:53,003


Andrew Zimmern: It spent a couple hours at the State Fair



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01:07:53,044 --> 01:07:54,848


Andrew Zimmern: but doing Something to help advance a cause



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Andrew Zimmern: and was stumping with a candidate here and



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01:08:00,665 --> 01:08:01,770


Andrew Zimmern: Went home, took a nap on the couch because



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Andrew Zimmern: I don't interrupt you, but can we get Al



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Andrew Zimmern: Franken back?



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Marc Preston: Is that my friend?



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01:08:07,986 --> 01:08:09,308


Marc Preston: I don't interrupt you, but can we get Al



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01:08:09,348 --> 01:08:09,930


Marc Preston: Franken back?



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01:08:10,190 --> 01:08:11,272


Marc Preston: Is that possible?



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01:08:11,292 --> 01:08:11,914


Marc Preston: We're gonna try.



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01:08:11,954 --> 01:08:13,738


Andrew Zimmern: I just interviewed him this morning for my



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01:08:13,798 --> 01:08:14,319


Andrew Zimmern: sub stack.



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01:08:16,246 --> 01:08:17,993


Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, andrew Zimmer dot sub stack.



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01:08:18,034 --> 01:08:20,283


Andrew Zimmern: Calm, we're starting to do a lot of video



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01:08:20,323 --> 01:08:20,845


Andrew Zimmern: interviews now.



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Andrew Zimmern: I just talked to Al.



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01:08:21,948 --> 01:08:23,653


Andrew Zimmern: He's a friend of mine, so we just we just



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Andrew Zimmern: spent some time with him this morning.



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01:08:25,727 --> 01:08:28,350


Andrew Zimmern: One of our first guests Took a little nap



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01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:30,239


Andrew Zimmern: with the dogs and woke up to find out that



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01:08:30,299 --> 01:08:32,107


Andrew Zimmern: some musician friends of mine we're coming



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01:08:32,167 --> 01:08:35,580


Andrew Zimmern: into town and landing at seven and I just



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Andrew Zimmern: convinced them to come over for dinner and



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Andrew Zimmern: I made everyone a big meal and sat around



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01:08:40,094 --> 01:08:42,690


Andrew Zimmern: bullshitting with them till Midnight and it



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01:08:42,730 --> 01:08:42,850


Andrew Zimmern: was.



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Andrew Zimmern: I went to bed that night just thinking well,



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Andrew Zimmern: that was a perfect day, what's not?



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Marc Preston: great in the great, it's just you, just



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01:08:49,074 --> 01:08:50,320


Marc Preston: when you can stop and go.



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Marc Preston: Okay, this is I.



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Marc Preston: When I was out of town with my kids few



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Marc Preston: weeks ago.



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Marc Preston: I just had one of those moments, just like



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Marc Preston: this is just perfect.



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Marc Preston: I'm loving.



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Marc Preston: I want to kind of breathe this in Now.



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Marc Preston: Last two questions.



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01:08:59,689 --> 01:09:01,694


Marc Preston: And if you weren't doing this, doing things



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01:09:01,754 --> 01:09:03,407


Marc Preston: like what you said, the United Nations, or



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01:09:03,448 --> 01:09:06,394


Marc Preston: with all the things you do and with



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01:09:06,675 --> 01:09:08,427


Marc Preston: creatively what you're doing, what would



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Marc Preston: your gig be?



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01:09:09,471 --> 01:09:11,439


Marc Preston: What do you think would bring you



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01:09:11,900 --> 01:09:13,125


Marc Preston: satisfaction if you weren't doing what



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01:09:13,245 --> 01:09:13,828


Marc Preston: you're doing now?



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Andrew Zimmern: Teaching history or art history.



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Andrew Zimmern: I thought that's what I wanted to do at one



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01:09:17,985 --> 01:09:18,085


Andrew Zimmern: point.



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Marc Preston: Oh, don't you think you're doing that



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01:09:19,168 --> 01:09:20,371


Marc Preston: indirectly right now?



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Andrew Zimmern: You know, yeah no for sure, but that I



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01:09:23,827 --> 01:09:26,116


Andrew Zimmern: would have done it formerly A lot of people.



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01:09:26,156 --> 01:09:27,843


Andrew Zimmern: But I only came to this later in life.



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01:09:27,944 --> 01:09:29,932


Andrew Zimmern: So people say, well, wouldn't it be serving,



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01:09:29,952 --> 01:09:30,895


Andrew Zimmern: you know, public office?



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01:09:31,437 --> 01:09:33,345


Andrew Zimmern: And the fact of the matter is that I've



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Andrew Zimmern: said on many interviews many times that at



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Andrew Zimmern: whatever time this career of mine enters a



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Andrew Zimmern: different phase, you know I would like to



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01:09:45,670 --> 01:09:46,732


Andrew Zimmern: run for public office.



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Andrew Zimmern: I talk about it all the time.



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Andrew Zimmern: Then, privately, all of my advisors and my



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Andrew Zimmern: politician friends tell me well, you can



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01:09:53,754 --> 01:09:57,231


Andrew Zimmern: make as much influence from not being in



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01:09:57,291 --> 01:09:59,079


Andrew Zimmern: public office, but you know doing what you



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01:09:59,099 --> 01:10:00,104


Andrew Zimmern: do from the sideline.



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Marc Preston: I think you can make people think.



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Marc Preston: So, most certainly, we'll see, and I think



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Marc Preston: you've done a wonderful job of that.



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Marc Preston: I mean, you make people think, they



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01:10:06,731 --> 01:10:09,243


Marc Preston: contemplate, they put, they put themselves



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01:10:09,283 --> 01:10:10,589


Marc Preston: in the shoes of the people, because that's



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Marc Preston: one of the things I think you're I love in



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01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:13,363


Marc Preston: your storytelling.



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01:10:13,404 --> 01:10:14,909


Marc Preston: This is not it sounds like I'm stroking you,



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01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:18,623


Marc Preston: I'm certainly not but you putting someone



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01:10:18,683 --> 01:10:20,369


Marc Preston: who's sitting on their sofa drinking a beer



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Marc Preston: as close as you can to being in the



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Marc Preston: situation you're in, so there could be that



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Marc Preston: kind of kind of indirect experience.



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Marc Preston: You know, and I think that that's.



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Marc Preston: I think you can wield a lot more influence,



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Marc Preston: because I just think you can.



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Marc Preston: I would.



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Marc Preston: I'm selfish, I don't want you to stop



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Marc Preston: making your show, so, but the last question



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Marc Preston: I got for you, if you were to jump in your



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Marc Preston: DeLorean cruise back, there's 16 year old



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Marc Preston: Andrew.



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Marc Preston: You got a piece of advice wisdom.



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Marc Preston: It could either get you on a better track



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Marc Preston: in that moment or maybe to make life even



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Marc Preston: better for 16 year old you.



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Marc Preston: But regardless, what is that piece of



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Marc Preston: advice you're going to offer yourself at 16?



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Andrew Zimmern: The most important thing that I've learned



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Andrew Zimmern: in the last 45 years of my life is the



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Andrew Zimmern: following sentence I don't know to the



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Andrew Zimmern: answer.



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Andrew Zimmern: I don't know the answer to that.



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Andrew Zimmern: Can you help me?



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Andrew Zimmern: I spent the first 30 years of my life,



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Andrew Zimmern: first 40 years of my life, so obsessed with



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Andrew Zimmern: self, so sure that I knew the answer to



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Andrew Zimmern: everything.



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Andrew Zimmern: And in the last 20 years of my sobriety and



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Andrew Zimmern: I've been sober 30 plus years, but it's



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Andrew Zimmern: really the last 20 years I have learned the



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Andrew Zimmern: most valuable sentence in the in my life is



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Andrew Zimmern: I don't know.



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Andrew Zimmern: Can you help me?



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Marc Preston: I really like that.



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Marc Preston: I think being able to ask questions you



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Marc Preston: have to kind of put your ego to the side,



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Marc Preston: but when you talked about your history and



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Marc Preston: substance abuse, the odds were not stacked



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Marc Preston: in your favor at all.



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Marc Preston: And again I look like Anthony Bourdain the



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Marc Preston: same thing and I had a unique perspective



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Marc Preston: because I grew up in Dallas as a kid and



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Marc Preston: the latchkey kid in the 80s.



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Marc Preston: There is a lot of high roll and you know,



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Marc Preston: let's say I was like I definitely don't



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Marc Preston: want that it's life record Now, that kind



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Marc Preston: of a thing.



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Marc Preston: Then I ended up working in radio and



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Marc Preston: entertainment and I found a lot of my



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Marc Preston: favorite people had had a story arc where,



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Marc Preston: yeah, they're okay now, like a got him



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Marc Preston: shadow Stevens you remember it was American



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Marc Preston: Top 40.



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Marc Preston: Oh, sure you know and I look at where



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Marc Preston: they're at now and there's, there's so much



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Marc Preston: wisdom, there's so much to be learned by



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Marc Preston: somebody.



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Marc Preston: When you have seen, you know bookends of



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Marc Preston: what things could be like in life, and I



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Marc Preston: had an extra appreciation, enhanced



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Marc Preston: appreciation, for those that could tell a



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Marc Preston: story about their recovery, Because I think



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Marc Preston: they were some of the most wise people that



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Marc Preston: I ever met.



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Marc Preston: Some of the best wisdom I've ever gotten



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Marc Preston: has been through people that have been



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Marc Preston: through it, you know.



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Marc Preston: So I think that that's that's one of those



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Marc Preston: things that I really have come to



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Marc Preston: appreciate over the years is like I didn't



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Marc Preston: have to take the ride, but I most certainly



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Marc Preston: appreciate yours.



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Marc Preston: You know if that makes any sense, hopefully.



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Andrew Zimmern: Yep absolutely.



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Marc Preston: One last question before we go what's going



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Marc Preston: on with delis in America?



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Marc Preston: Is it my imagination?



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Marc Preston: Or everywhere I go is like they're less and



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Marc Preston: less Jewish delis.



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Andrew Zimmern: There are and the ones that are being



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Andrew Zimmern: opened are our modernist takes on them.



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Andrew Zimmern: Some excellent, some excellent.



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Andrew Zimmern: However we are, we have lost during covid



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Andrew Zimmern: so many and we continue to lose so many



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Andrew Zimmern: delis all the time, and they are.



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Andrew Zimmern: They will be a thing of eras past.



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Marc Preston: I mean, you think so.



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Marc Preston: Do you really think like?



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Andrew Zimmern: yeah, I think places like Katz's will hang



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Andrew Zimmern: on, and you know, you know like canter is a



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Andrew Zimmern: lot of other yeah exactly.



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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, you know that will still be there,



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Andrew Zimmern: but we were losing a lot of those, those



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Andrew Zimmern: little delis around the country that are



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Andrew Zimmern: exquisite and I just think it's.



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Andrew Zimmern: They can't compete and people don't want to



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Andrew Zimmern: pay.



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Andrew Zimmern: They don't want to pay $30.



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Andrew Zimmern: Well, they don't want to pay $30 for a



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Andrew Zimmern: sandwich, and I'm not talking about, you



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Andrew Zimmern: know, overstuffed.



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Andrew Zimmern: It's just that the quality of the product



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Andrew Zimmern: has to be very, very high and it takes just



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Andrew Zimmern: as much labor, if not more, to create that.



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Andrew Zimmern: Then I mean, look, every these days, with



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Andrew Zimmern: the restaurant economy and the economy in



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Andrew Zimmern: general being the way it is, every famous



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Andrew Zimmern: chef in the world wants to open a pizzeria.



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Andrew Zimmern: Why?



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Andrew Zimmern: It's the best food cost item that you can



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Andrew Zimmern: make, you know, and delis are not the best



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Andrew Zimmern: food cost items you can make.



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Marc Preston: Well, andrew, again your generosity, your



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Marc Preston: time.



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Marc Preston: I so enjoy this chat and I wish you nothing



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Marc Preston: but the best next time you're in New



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Marc Preston: Orleans.



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Andrew Zimmern: R&O's and then Diney's next door.



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Marc Preston: You hit the local note right there Double



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Marc Preston: up Lunch one, lunch two?



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Marc Preston: It would definitely be on me.



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Marc Preston: It'd be my pleasure.



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Marc Preston: But, my friend, all the best to you and



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Marc Preston: looking forward to your new show.



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Marc Preston: On is the outdoor channel.



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Andrew Zimmern: Yep Wild Game Kitchen Premieres September



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Andrew Zimmern: 19th at nine o'clock Eastern.



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Marc Preston: Family dinner, of course, on Magnolia,



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Marc Preston: loving your stuff, my friend, have yourself



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Marc Preston: a killer rest of day.



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Andrew Zimmern: Hopefully this is another one of those



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Andrew Zimmern: great days for you, me too Take it easy,



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Andrew Zimmern: and for you as well.



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Marc Preston: Well, there you go, andrew Zimmer.



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Marc Preston: That was.



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Marc Preston: That was a lot of fun.



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Marc Preston: As I mentioned at the beginning of the show,



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Marc Preston: I didn't have anything to eat, so you know,



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Marc Preston: talking food for an hour with Andrew was.



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Marc Preston: It was fun, but, man, I was hungry when I



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Marc Preston: was done Really enjoyed the opportunity to



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Marc Preston: sit down with him.



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Marc Preston: The new show's Magnolia Network you can



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Marc Preston: catch family dinner, as well as the show



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Marc Preston: Wild Game Kitchen, which is on the outdoor



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Marc Preston: channel, and, of course, the Netflix reboot



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Marc Preston: of Iron Chef.



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Marc Preston: You can check out Andrew as he's one of the



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Marc Preston: judges A gig.



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Marc Preston: I've always wanted to have A judge on Iron



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Marc Preston: Chef.



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Marc Preston: That seems like it would be a lot of fun.



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Marc Preston: Also got to throw a quick happy birthday to



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Marc Preston: my son, zachary Just turned 18.



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Marc Preston: So so incredibly proud of him.



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Marc Preston: Now I got two of those adult type offspring.



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Marc Preston: So that means that to college kids they're



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Marc Preston: getting older.



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Marc Preston: I somehow miraculously stay the same age.



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Marc Preston: That's what I'm telling myself.



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Marc Preston: All right, don't forget to subscribe and



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Marc Preston: Of course, going to be back with another



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Marc Preston: great episode soon with somebody very



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Marc Preston: interesting.



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Marc Preston: Just going to throw it out there.



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Marc Preston: If you are a big Ghostbusters fan, check



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Marc Preston: out the next episode.



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Marc Preston: Just a little tease, if you will.



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Marc Preston: All right, that's it for me today.



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Marc Preston: I'm going to run out and grab myself a bite



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Marc Preston: to eat.



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Marc Preston: You have a very safe and awesome rest of



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Marc Preston: your day.



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Marc Preston: We'll see you next time right here on Story



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Andrew Zimmern

TV Personality | Chef | Writer | Social Justice Advocate

Andrew Zimmern is an Emmy-winning and four-time James Beard Award-winning TV personality, chef, writer and social justice advocate. As the creator, executive producer and host of the Bizarre Foods franchise, Andrew Zimmern’s Driven by Food and Emmy-winning The Zimmern List, he has devoted his life to exploring and promoting cultural acceptance, tolerance and understanding through food. In 2020, Andrew returned to television with MSNBC’s What's Eating America, and in 2021, he premiered Family Dinner on Magnolia Network. This year, you can find him judging the epic culinary battle Iron Chef: Quest for an Iron Legend on Netflix and on Outdoor Channel’s Andrew Zimmern’s Wild Game Kitchen.

A Taste of the Good—and Bad— Life
Andrew knew from a young age he wanted a career in food. After attending The Dalton School and Vassar College, he cooked in New York City restaurants for Anne Rosenzweig, Joachim Splichal and Thomas Keller, amongst others. Andrew helped open and run a dozen restaurants, and at the same time was also an addict spiraling out of control. After a year spent living on the streets, an intervention by close friends brought him to the Hazelden Foundation in Minnesota. Transforming his life around sobriety, Andrew took a job washing dishes at Minneapolis’ Café Un Deux Trois. In 1992, he was named executive chef and during his six-year tenure, turned Un Deux Trois into an awarded, national caliber restaurant.

Making Moves in the Media
Andrew's menu at Un Deux Trois drew the attention of media. Local news appearances led to regular TV… Read More