Byron Bowers

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Byron Bowers:
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I mean, I always was, like, this guy who, I

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guess, said inappropriate shit.

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So my friends was like, you

should go to the comedy club.

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So we drove up there one time on

amateur night, and I got on stage,

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and I got booed by like 300 people.

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Announcer: Welcome to Story Craft.

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Now, here's your host, Marc Preston.

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Marc Preston: All right, here we go.

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Another episode of Story Craft.

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And as the lovely young lady

said, My name is Marc Preston.

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If this is your first episode, thank

you so much for checking out the show.

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Uh, and if you've been

here before, welcome back.

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Uh, glad to have you.

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All right.

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Today is going to be a fun episode.

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Really enjoy this conversation with

actor and comedian Byron Bowers.

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You may have seen him

in the TV show, the shy.

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You can see him now in the

Apple TV plus show called.

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Lady in the Lake with Natalie

Portman, a great performance.

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Really enjoyed his work and also

he's going to be in the upcoming

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Marvel show called Wonder Man.

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A great conversation.

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Really enjoyed this opportunity

to sit down with Byron.

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Such a cool, candid guy, really kind

of put it out there, how he got to be

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a comedian, how he got into acting.

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And I really enjoyed just his vibe.

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He's a cool dude.

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Sometimes you can just sum up a

guy by saying he's a cool dude.

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And, uh, this dude is going to be

on momentarily, but I just want

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Today is Byron Bower's day

right now on story and craft.

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Thank you so much for

joining me today, man.

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Uh, how are you doing?

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Byron Bowers: Not bad, man.

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Not bad.

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Very relaxed.

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Just came from a very.

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Uh, intense drive

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Marc Preston: road trip drive

or were you like driving in L.

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Kind of intense drive.

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Byron Bowers: It's uh, both.

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But yeah, I went to the mountains.

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I drove to the mountains.

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Marc Preston: Oh really?

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Today.

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Okay.

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Byron Bowers: Yeah.

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Marc Preston: Now, was

this just like a little R.

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Or were you like shooting

like on location somewhere?

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Byron Bowers: It's a little R.

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Marc Preston: Are you in L.

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Or?

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Yeah, I'm in

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Byron Bowers: L.

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I'm in L.

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I don't even know if it's R and R because

you definitely not relaxed at all.

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It's uh, you're doing probably 80 miles

an hour at around a 25 mile an hour curve.

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Marc Preston: So was this like, were

you hiking up there or was this just

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uh, was it just a drive kind of a thing?

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Byron Bowers: No, you

go, you go for the drive.

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It's a very intense drive.

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It's like performing.

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Oh.

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For those who don't,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't do cocaine so this is a way

to get, I guess the, uh, Kind of

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Marc Preston: adrenaline

thing going on, I guess.

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Byron Bowers: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Marc Preston: The kind of vehicle

we're talking about, it was

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just like a sports car drive.

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Yep.

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Byron Bowers: Yep.

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Yep.

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Very spiritual, very spiritual

car for a spiritual drive.

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You know,

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Marc Preston: very nice.

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So no, we are, you're originally from LA

or you, uh, did you move out that way?

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Byron Bowers: I grew up in

Atlanta, Georgia, you know, um,

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I was born in Athens, raised in

Atlanta, very flat, very flat land.

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Um, And, uh, yes, uh,

Athens is a smaller town.

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Um, I think they say it got

90 churches in that one town.

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Marc Preston: Well, like I grew

up in Dallas, so it's sort of like

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Georgia's Dallas, you know, every

time I go up there, I'm like, this

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is sort of like familiar Athens.

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I'm trying to think Athens.

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Isn't that where, uh, I can be wrong.

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Is that where REM is from?

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Are they from Athens?

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Byron Bowers: Yep.

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Yep.

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That's the interesting part.

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It's also a hippie part of,

of, uh, of the South, right?

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You got the B 52s from there.

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You got REM from there.

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Um, so it does have a little artsy, you

know, you know, uh, scene to it that I

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never got to experience, but it's also

home of the, uh, you know, Confederate,

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uh, Constitution of the United States.

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Marc Preston: Oh, okay.

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Okay.

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Actually, you know, is it kind of like,

uh, Kind of like Austin, you know,

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in Texas where it's a little artsy,

but it's kind of the, uh, phrase they

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have in Austin is keep Austin weird.

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So it's Austin weird.

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Yeah,

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Byron Bowers: no, it's definitely less.

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It's definitely less,

uh, artsy than Austin.

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Um, but if as conservative as it is,

it's a little bit more, you know,

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less a fair than like, uh, you know,

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Marc Preston: gotcha.

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I gotcha.

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So, I've been trying to remember

in Georgia, where I took my

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kids, uh, I'm sorry, in Atlanta.

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What's that big drive in

that everybody goes to?

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Is it the Varsity?

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Is that what it's called?

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The one that has the chili dogs

and the orange, the orange drink.

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That's the one thing I remember

is that orange drink, you know?

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And then there was a little,

there was a little dance party.

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You know, the next day I

remembered it pretty well.

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You know, it was, it was, uh, it was

a, uh, it was really, really good.

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I was like, if I was in college, that's,

that's what I would be hitting that place.

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Yeah.

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But as the years have gone by,

I'm like, yeah, my body's like,

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no, you can't do this a bunch.

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No,

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Byron Bowers: I had someone,

but recently, maybe like a year

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or two ago, I rediscovered it.

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And I was just like, What are you doing?

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Marc Preston: You know, isn't that

a sobering thought when you go, you

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know, I used to do this thing when

I was a kid, like I've got all three

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of my kids are now in college, but I

would take them to thing and do things

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that like, I was like, Oh, I did this

when I was a kid and ate this thing.

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And like the time has expired for me to be

able to do this without it causing issues.

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Byron Bowers: Yeah.

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Mine was dumb cause I'm in the airport

and uh, I had to go to a whole different

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terminal to get to the varsity.

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Right.

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Cause Atlanta airport is big.

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So I'm going from like terminal

D to terminal, B or something

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to get just to have a chili dog

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Marc Preston: you I will say this if

you're in the airport I'm assuming

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you're going to be on an airplane

and that's a really brave move man.

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That's oh, yeah You usually keep it bland

when I'm flying, you know by the way,

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I talked to Dylan Arnold a few weeks

ago for Lady in the Lake and Great.

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I really I really enjoyed it.

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His character was out there.

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It was

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Byron Bowers: oh, yeah, it's crazy

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Marc Preston: They're, they're,

uh, weed eating right outside

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my door here right now.

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So if you hear anything, it's momentary.

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Um, so the, uh, you know, the

groundskeeper here was like,

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uh, it's, it's his day to trim

things and make them look nice.

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Um, so I'm just trying

to get our shoulders to

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Byron Bowers: match.

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Oh, there we go.

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Marc Preston: Yeah.

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All right.

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You know, so you're looking, you're

looking more casual and relaxed than I am.

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I like that.

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I shoulda, shoulda shoulda gone

t shirt, but you know, I was

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curious the, the lady in the lake.

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Your background is comedy and you played.

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A comedian, but there weren't a

lot of really funny scenes for you.

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That was kind of the irony of that, you

know, for folks that haven't seen it

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yet, which is, I, I, I really enjoyed it.

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It was one of the few shows I've seen

where I didn't know where it was going.

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You know, I, oh wow.

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You know, it's a thing where you

watching and you're like, okay, I'd

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kind of, you know, break it down.

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I see.

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It's kind of, I had no clue, you know?

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I had no idea.

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Wow.

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Thank you, man.

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But it was, was, it was great.

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And you were kind of a, you

were kind of that backbone.

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You were, you were there, you were like,

you know, talking about comedy and.

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In that era, that was supposed

to be, I guess, early sixties.

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Is that roughly when it was

supposed to be taking place?

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Late sixties, late sixties, late sixties.

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Was comedy to your, to your mind,

was it segregated to a degree?

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Like in black comedians, we're just

going to be doing black clubs because

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before prior showed up, was comedy

kind of like had its own individual

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camps and audiences kind of like that?

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Byron Bowers: Well, I mean,

it's still like that, really.

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You know, um, and I think,

you know, prior was to divide.

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He was actually the divide, um, before,

you know, the goal was to do Vegas and

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you had comedians like Dick Gregory.

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Oh yeah.

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One of the first right to get on and

people didn't have beards and they

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were shaved, clean shaved, and they

told very like polished street jokes.

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And then Lenny Bruce came

out and then he just.

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started talking about, you know,

the inner thoughts and stuff that my

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comedy really spawns from, like stuff

you really shouldn't tell nobody.

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Um, so I think that was, and then

my character is a version of that.

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Um, you know, at, during the time,

late 60, 67, 68, when he just saying

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whatever he wants, he wants to say, and

it's consequences with that, you know?

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So.

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And then Pryor came out and really

like, you know, uh, that's when things

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became like black audiences and like

white audiences, you know, you have the

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chitlin circuit, but it wasn't like,

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Marc Preston: was that what they call it?

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Chitlin circuit?

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Is that what it was called?

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Yeah.

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Byron Bowers: That's what,

that's what it's, that's what

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it's still called actually.

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Really?

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Marc Preston: remember another

one's red Fox and I remember, uh,

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watching him on Sanford and son.

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And then, uh, My parents had one

of his albums and they were out

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one night and I had to babysit her.

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I was like, Oh, I'm going to put

on a Red Fox album, not realizing.

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Not really what I was experienced.

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You know, I was a little kid and it was

not what was I saw in Sanford and Son

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It was it exposed me to some new ideas.

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I will put it like that Yeah, but uh,

but I didn't know that was uh, that was

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a thing I thought it was just kind of

after prior with just things kind of

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Byron Bowers: well, you know Fred Sanford

entertained all even though he was dirty.

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He's the first comedian with the

Triple x label on a comedy album.

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So he entertained all but Uh Yeah,

uh, Pryor was the first comic to

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really talk about white people.

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Marc Preston: I think he got white

people to laugh at themselves a little

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bit, you know, or got a chance to see

the humor, you know, his, he was, he

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was the first, it seemed like that was

a transition point, you know, Pryor

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came on the scene and it was just

like, Something changed, you know?

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But I mean, he's on my Mount Rushmore, you

know, along with like George Carlin and.

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Byron Bowers: Carlin's another one.

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They, they both spawned together.

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They both to me are

descendants of Lenny Bruce.

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Marc Preston: Lenny Bruce is really

the one that had to take those chances

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and get himself into trouble before.

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Did you kick off your comedy in Atlanta?

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In Atlanta

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Byron Bowers: in two, yeah.

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In 2005, I dabbled in 2000

and it just wasn't clicking.

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Uh, like I was going to college and I

had like a bunch of like things going on.

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So I think by the time I hit

like 2005 or probably 2003, I

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was like, this is what I want to

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Marc Preston: do.

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What was that first open mic night?

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Like, uh, I assume you started

off on like an open mic night.

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Byron Bowers: Well, I didn't, I

started with a, uh, actually like,

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I mean, I always was like this guy

who I guess say inappropriate shit.

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So my friends was like, you

should go to the comedy club.

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So we drove up there one

time on amateur night.

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Uh, and we, they wouldn't let us in unless

we signed to get on stage and I got on

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stage and I got booed by like 300 people.

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Marc Preston: What was

the thought in your mind?

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Like, I gotta go work on my stuff or I'm

like, I need to stay away from clubs or

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what was, what was your next thought?

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Byron Bowers: I left.

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I think I left for like a year and a half.

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Because there was no, um, I

never been to a comedy club.

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So it was no stuff to work on.

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Marc Preston (2): Oh, really?

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Byron Bowers: Yeah.

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I didn't know that you posted the

right jokes and you supposed to

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like go work them out and test

these things on the audience.

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You know, I was lunchroom funny or,

you know, uh, water fountain funny.

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So, uh, and the things I said, nobody

could really relate to at the time either.

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So it just was, it just was bad.

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And then.

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I came back like a year and a half

later with I wrote two jokes and I

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came back a year and a half later and

it and the joke killed and I think I

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did three minutes and got off stage.

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And then after that night, I think

it bombed for like six months.

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And then I quit again.

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Marc Preston: I've never done comedy, but

I can't imagine a more naked feeling than

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being on stage and going, you know what?

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If you bomb, you're bombing.

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It's all you.

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Uh, but I've heard some comedians

talk that they actually like to work

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themselves out of that hole, you know,

and they feel the crowd disappearing

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and like that invigorates them.

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Other people just

paralyzes them, you know?

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Yeah.

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But when did it kick in for you?

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When were you starting to kind

of feel your flow and you kind

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of got your feet underneath you?

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Uh,

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Byron Bowers: probably 2000 and

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And 11, I think.

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How long?

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12, 2012.

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Yep.

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Seven years in.

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Marc Preston: What were you

watching or listening to?

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Or were you listening to any comedians?

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Like, I don't know, that

guy really turns me on.

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I like that idea, what he's doing.

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I want to do that thing.

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Byron Bowers: When I was like getting into

high school, my mom dropped a CD in my,

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in my room and it was Martin Lawrence CD.

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And I never heard

nothing like this before.

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Uh, and I remember, like, I didn't

know Aiden Murphy was a comedian.

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Marc Preston: you're killing me over here.

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Uh, you, yeah.

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You had, my big epiphany was Eddie

Murphy Raw, you know, and I saw that.

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Yeah.

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I, I mean, I was watching that

like, I think it was seventh grade.

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I'm a little older than you, but I

saw Eddie Murphy raw and in, uh, there

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was one other one he was wearing.

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I, I remember he was wearing red

leather pants and a, and like a jacket.

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You know.

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Delirious.

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Delirious.

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Yeah.

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My friend, uh, Chris and

I, we were in junior high.

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We were watching, I was like.

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The conversation he said he had

with Bill Cosby and Bill Cosby is

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like, you know, you got to watch

what you're saying and you know,

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you, you cuss too much or whatever.

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And then he calls up Richard Pryor and

asking Richard Pryor, you know, Bill

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Cosby is telling, telling me to do this.

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And you know, Richard Pryor

is like, you know, hell with

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him, man, go do your thing.

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He said it in other ways, you

know, but it seems like an

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evolution and he was kind of the.

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Spawning out of that kind of post

Richard Pryor thing and yeah, you know,

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that was a great time for comedy Like

when I was growing up, yeah, like you

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had like Sam Kinnis and Andrew Dice

clay I mean that's back when HBO was

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doing a lot of their comedian features

So I was real in a comedy when I was

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like it probably shouldn't have been

watching it I was a little young but

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Byron Bowers: that's the best

that's the best times man.

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That was those was the best years, right?

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The comedy boom and the way people

described it was just like, even

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comedians got paid, paid, you know,

uh, and the sitcoms came out of that.

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So it was just a, it was a crazy time.

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Um, and yeah, man, I remember, yeah.

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I didn't know Eddie was like a comedian.

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I remember seeing them in movies, uh,

and then I was three years in and I

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was like, let me study this thing.

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And I found out about Richard Pryor,

I never saw Richard Pryor do stand up.

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I just knew of Martin

Lawrence and Def Jam.

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To me that was the

beginning of comedy, right?

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And when I saw Richard Pryor's stand

up and Robin Harris and all these

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guys that are like, all these black

comedians, I started crying, I think.

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That's when I started

crying, uh, that day.

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Uh, cause at that moment I realized

that everything I saw from Def

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Jam and in the clubs was stolen.

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from these guys.

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Marc Preston: Oh, really?

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Byron Bowers: Yeah.

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Marc Preston: Were there like

the stories or they're the

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way they, they told the jokes?

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Byron Bowers: I mean, I, you know, prior

created the genre of just urban comedy.

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He created that, that genre of

talking about what's going on in the

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neighborhood, you know, um, the sixties

was political, you know, Dick Gregor and

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these guys, they had political jokes.

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Marc Preston: Before that, it

was just, Uh, comedians are more

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just like joke tellers, right?

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They want to like, you know, pretty much.

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Yeah.

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Not that there's anything wrong with

it, but it's just a different style.

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Byron Bowers: It's not.

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Yeah.

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It's a different style.

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And, um, uh, you know, uh, Dick Gregory

worked at, uh, the playboy club.

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So that's how he blew up.

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He was the first millionaire,

uh, black comedian.

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And then one night he

couldn't make it to a show.

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He was like, it's a

young comedian in Philly.

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Um, that's up and coming.

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Um, and I let him do the

playboy club instead of me.

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And that was Bill Cosby.

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So that's one lineage right here.

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Okay.

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Marc Preston: You know, Bill Cosby, we

all know what ended up happening with

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him, but for the time, for the time,

let's, let's, I just isolate as like a

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little pocket of time when, when he was

doing his thing, he was a, he was a great

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storyteller, you know, had this whole,

his jokes took, there was a big arc, but.

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My favorite comedians were like, uh, okay.

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I'm trying to think like, uh, well,

Robin Williams was in there as well

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He would be on my mail rush more.

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It'd be Robin Williams and Eddie

Murphy and Richard Pryor and and Carl

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Carlin was just the guy I love story.

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Yeah Would you how would

you define your style?

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Are you more kind of more

of a storyteller you?

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Quick observations, you know,

where, how would you define what

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you, what feels good for you?

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Byron Bowers: I'm a, I'm

a blend of everything.

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I started with jokey jokes and then

I started to grow as a comedian

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and, and, and I reached a point

where I wasn't relatable to anybody.

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Um, you know, my lady left, you know,

I was, I was married before she left.

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I'm sleeping on couches and you

know, Kevin Hart is doing his thing.

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And I'm like, I just

can't relate to people.

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Uh, I had a dark moment, you know?

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And, uh, I just started

saying like, fuck it.

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If I can't relate to anybody, then I'm

just going to talk about some of my stuff.

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And then I did a joke about the day

I found out my dad smoked crack.

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I just told the story and people

just came out of the woodworks.

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Like that happened to me too.

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This happened to me too.

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And I was like, Oh, Oh, I found

something, you know, so it's just

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been that brutal, unapologetic or

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Marc Preston: maybe, or maybe they

didn't have the exact same experience,

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but they had an experience of

learning something that was maybe a

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surprising disappointment or something.

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You know, there was, there's

a commonality, even though the

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story's not exactly the same kind

of the emotional response to it.

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Yeah.

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Byron Bowers: And you know, one guy

was on heroin when he saw it and he,

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he got kids himself and he stopped.

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He stopped that after

seeing that, you know?

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Uh, so it definitely affected

the more traumatic people, right?

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So it's not a black thing.

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It's not a white thing.

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It's just, I found my people,

which are those who have these

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Marc Preston: kind of a

human experience thing.

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Yeah.

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Byron Bowers: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I mean, that's when stuff

started to shift and then I, I

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stopped doing comedies because I

didn't find them relatable to me.

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And it's funny.

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And I ended up in dramas because my

sense of humor is just, it's just the

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dramatic stuff is just funny to me.

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If that makes sense.

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Marc Preston: You're playing,

did you find when you're playing

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Slappy, it was Slappy, right?

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That sort of, in Lady and the Lamp.

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Yep.

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Uh, Did you find like, okay, I've

been in this place before, you

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know, I I'm about to bust out.

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I'm a guy.

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It's been a few weeks since I've seen

the show, but I are seeing the series,

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but, uh, it was more like he was about

to bust out and he was, it was that

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feeling of, you can feel it there.

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Was it hard to reach that character,

like to find some, you know,

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some stuff to really tap into?

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Byron Bowers: Cause I

consulted on the show.

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So that's my part of my

real story, you know?

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of somebody who follows their dream and

the support you don't get uh sometimes

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or you know that's how you look at it

if you follow your dream but to other

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people the reality is you just probably

that dude just sitting on the couch

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so um it was it was easy for me to get

into character because I lived it but

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now I get to see it through everybody

else's eyes and they really don't like

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that especially women who date have to

date these type of characters you know.

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Marc Preston: I can't imagine

it would be Real easy.

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It'd be like, you got to really love

and believe in the person you're with.

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Cause it's a, I think anybody that does

a creative thing for a living, that's

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a little bit different of a path than

somebody that's done their four years and

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maybe then gone on and gotten a master's.

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Now they got the career.

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You know, if you're with somebody

who's doing something creative, it's

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kind of, if it's a different arc of

experience, I'd say more, more interesting

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people though, but that's just mine.

482

00:20:18,029 --> 00:20:19,039

That's why I'm doing this.

483

00:20:20,299 --> 00:20:20,859

I met people

484

00:20:20,859 --> 00:20:24,020

Byron Bowers: with businesses that

had to go through the same thing, you

485

00:20:24,020 --> 00:20:28,065

know, um, They might not have had their

college or nothing, but they definitely

486

00:20:28,065 --> 00:20:30,995

got a business or two off the ground.

487

00:20:30,995 --> 00:20:33,245

And you know, it took years.

488

00:20:33,245 --> 00:20:35,024

These things take years,

which you don't know.

489

00:20:35,605 --> 00:20:35,785

Marc Preston: Yeah.

490

00:20:35,785 --> 00:20:38,794

They say it takes 10 years to be an

overnight success or something like that.

491

00:20:38,794 --> 00:20:38,995

I don't know.

492

00:20:38,995 --> 00:20:42,334

Maybe it's more even, but, um, but

you said you consulted on the show.

493

00:20:42,334 --> 00:20:43,754

Is it just kind of like

for your character?

494

00:20:43,754 --> 00:20:48,325

Was it more like how to have that

part of, uh, your experience with a

495

00:20:48,335 --> 00:20:53,075

lady in the lake come along is did the

producer say, Hey, I need some input on.

496

00:20:53,135 --> 00:20:54,785

Uh, you know, fill in the blank.

497

00:20:55,715 --> 00:20:58,805

Byron Bowers: Uh, that, and then

my girlfriend wrote the show and,

498

00:20:58,805 --> 00:21:01,175

and Oh, I did not even know that.

499

00:21:01,175 --> 00:21:01,355

Yeah.

500

00:21:01,355 --> 00:21:02,315

How did I not know that?

501

00:21:02,375 --> 00:21:02,945

Marc Preston: Okay.

502

00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:03,030

Okay.

503

00:21:03,030 --> 00:21:03,310

I don't

504

00:21:03,310 --> 00:21:06,905

Byron Bowers: know, you know, but it's,

uh, yeah, it was a thing of just being

505

00:21:06,905 --> 00:21:13,355

an in-house, uh, type production, you

know, so it was, uh, you know, you

506

00:21:13,355 --> 00:21:17,615

help to shape the story and you want

some of the nuances to be correct.

507

00:21:18,395 --> 00:21:18,935

Um.

508

00:21:20,135 --> 00:21:23,325

And without getting into the whole

race thing, when you talk about

509

00:21:23,325 --> 00:21:29,104

certain races, and it might be written

by or shot by somebody else, you

510

00:21:29,104 --> 00:21:30,675

want certain nuances to be there.

511

00:21:31,184 --> 00:21:34,264

So, you have people consult from both.

512

00:21:35,050 --> 00:21:38,480

You know, groups of people, the Jewish

group and well, my girl is Jewish.

513

00:21:38,490 --> 00:21:38,830

So,

514

00:21:39,220 --> 00:21:39,620

Marc Preston: okay.

515

00:21:39,890 --> 00:21:41,950

You see, that's one thing I'm

Jewish and I noticed that.

516

00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:42,260

Yeah.

517

00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:44,760

I kind of felt like somebody knew

what they were doing when they put

518

00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,899

some of these things in there, you

know, it was such an interesting show.

519

00:21:47,899 --> 00:21:49,389

It's something I want

to go back and rewatch.

520

00:21:49,389 --> 00:21:49,649

Yeah.

521

00:21:49,649 --> 00:21:52,370

I was watching it with, um,

my son and his girlfriend.

522

00:21:52,690 --> 00:21:55,480

And I was just going to watch a

show or two, one or two episodes.

523

00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:57,680

And we ended up like power

watching it over two days.

524

00:21:57,690 --> 00:21:59,190

You know, it was such a good show.

525

00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,799

So no, well done, man.

526

00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,510

I will say that was, uh, your character

was, as some people to stand out

527

00:22:04,510 --> 00:22:08,775

and other, you know, Dylan, his, uh,

Dylan Arnold was, It was out there.

528

00:22:08,775 --> 00:22:09,115

Oh yeah.

529

00:22:09,115 --> 00:22:12,395

What he did was just kind

of, it was, it was rich.

530

00:22:12,395 --> 00:22:13,575

There was a lot going on.

531

00:22:13,575 --> 00:22:15,035

There was a lot of cultural stuff.

532

00:22:15,035 --> 00:22:18,825

It was a little, it felt like kind of

like a, a little time capsule in a way.

533

00:22:18,835 --> 00:22:21,445

If you mixed some things together,

how it, how would it come out?

534

00:22:21,455 --> 00:22:22,894

You know, but it was a great story, man.

535

00:22:22,895 --> 00:22:23,514

It was really wonderful.

536

00:22:23,515 --> 00:22:24,494

It's just

537

00:22:24,494 --> 00:22:28,914

Byron Bowers: a bunch of genres that we

managed to, uh, and more for the other

538

00:22:28,914 --> 00:22:32,925

writers, cause I just sprinkled some

salt on it, but they were able to, to,

539

00:22:33,075 --> 00:22:35,225

to bend these genres together in a.

540

00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,110

Way that, like you said, you

couldn't tell what was coming.

541

00:22:40,130 --> 00:22:44,355

Like it's not predictable, which

is You know, I think it'd be

542

00:22:44,355 --> 00:22:45,835

challenging for audiences now.

543

00:22:45,985 --> 00:22:47,345

Marc Preston: I think

it's very challenging.

544

00:22:47,345 --> 00:22:50,775

Yeah, because everything you know all

You know a lot of well Then you get a

545

00:22:50,775 --> 00:22:54,264

lot of shows that are just or movies

that are remade and remade remade and

546

00:22:54,324 --> 00:22:58,085

and then you have certain story structure

and all this kind of stuff and You you

547

00:22:58,085 --> 00:23:01,685

know, you can kind of subconsciously pick

up like most rom coms You kind of know

548

00:23:01,685 --> 00:23:03,955

where they're going to go fundamentally,

but you're there for the ride.

549

00:23:03,965 --> 00:23:05,945

You enjoy it Yeah, but

with this it was different.

550

00:23:05,945 --> 00:23:06,925

It was really enjoyable.

551

00:23:06,935 --> 00:23:10,135

Byron Bowers: Y'all gotta put

your phones down It can't be you

552

00:23:10,135 --> 00:23:11,960

can't cook You know what I mean?

553

00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:14,720

You probably barely can eat,

eat while you watch this.

554

00:23:21,580 --> 00:23:24,759

Marc Preston: You said that you were

doing the comedy thing, but kind of the

555

00:23:24,769 --> 00:23:28,379

nature of your stories and where you

find yourself, you started doing more,

556

00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,310

as far as acting goes, more drama stuff.

557

00:23:31,049 --> 00:23:33,110

When did you start kind of

getting into the acting thing?

558

00:23:33,549 --> 00:23:40,139

Byron Bowers: Um, when I met, uh, Doug,

this casting director, um, Carmen Cuba.

559

00:23:41,165 --> 00:23:45,675

She brought me in in 2016 for

this show called The Shy, uh,

560

00:23:45,675 --> 00:23:46,804

which is still on by the way.

561

00:23:46,845 --> 00:23:51,004

It's a drama and I auditioned

and I tested for it.

562

00:23:51,064 --> 00:23:56,115

Like I mean, I went through seven or

eight auditions and, uh, I didn't get it,

563

00:23:56,155 --> 00:24:01,455

but I got one, uh, part as a day player

and it turned into like seven episodes.

564

00:24:02,865 --> 00:24:05,439

And uh, That's, you know,

to me, the universe.

565

00:24:05,439 --> 00:24:06,179

Wait, so you came in as

566

00:24:06,179 --> 00:24:08,050

Marc Preston: a day player and

they got you into seven episodes.

567

00:24:08,060 --> 00:24:10,739

That's, that's, uh, that's gotta

be kind of a cool heady thing.

568

00:24:10,739 --> 00:24:12,790

Like you show up and you think

it's just working a few hours.

569

00:24:12,809 --> 00:24:13,759

Now you're on the show.

570

00:24:14,129 --> 00:24:16,409

Byron Bowers: Yeah, you're on the

show and you still don't really know.

571

00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,620

Like everything is new to you, right?

572

00:24:19,030 --> 00:24:23,050

So you, you're figuring it

out as you, as you, as you go.

573

00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:29,360

But, um, I do notice like, I was like,

I'm getting more lines each episode.

574

00:24:30,659 --> 00:24:33,370

So I was like, somebody like me and

I gotta be doing something right.

575

00:24:34,145 --> 00:24:37,945

And then, um, after that I got

the next thing, which was a drama.

576

00:24:38,054 --> 00:24:42,695

I went to, uh, I tried to take a comedy

class, a comedy intensive acting class.

577

00:24:42,975 --> 00:24:46,345

And I remember the teacher was like,

uh, she was like, name a comedy.

578

00:24:46,815 --> 00:24:48,665

And I was like, uh, Breaking Bad.

579

00:24:49,274 --> 00:24:52,335

And she was like, that's

not, that's not a comedy.

580

00:24:52,425 --> 00:24:54,065

It's a funny show, but it's not a comedy.

581

00:24:54,375 --> 00:24:55,544

And she was like, name another one.

582

00:24:55,544 --> 00:24:57,175

And I said, Handmaid's Tale.

583

00:24:58,774 --> 00:24:59,115

Marc Preston (2): Comedy.

584

00:24:59,115 --> 00:24:59,340

Okay.

585

00:24:59,340 --> 00:24:59,564

Okay.

586

00:25:00,044 --> 00:25:00,414

Byron Bowers: Yeah.

587

00:25:00,414 --> 00:25:03,034

And she was like, you know, everybody

laughing and she was like, how the

588

00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:04,914

fuck, you know, that's what she said.

589

00:25:04,914 --> 00:25:06,705

This lady, why you say it's a comedy.

590

00:25:07,094 --> 00:25:11,834

And I started breaking down the scene

of this lady having this, you know,

591

00:25:11,854 --> 00:25:15,195

having to watch this other lady sleep

with her husband to try to have a baby

592

00:25:15,874 --> 00:25:17,244

and what I thought was funny about it.

593

00:25:17,634 --> 00:25:19,774

And she was like, so you kind of dialed

594

00:25:19,774 --> 00:25:22,955

Marc Preston: into the situational

comedy of like how that's just

595

00:25:22,985 --> 00:25:25,049

the absurdity of a moment.

596

00:25:25,310 --> 00:25:26,200

You know, that's it.

597

00:25:26,210 --> 00:25:27,129

So that's kind of what you're thinking.

598

00:25:27,129 --> 00:25:27,560

It's funny.

599

00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:28,340

Byron Bowers: Yeah.

600

00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:31,000

And I think cause the attention

is, is always funny to me.

601

00:25:31,060 --> 00:25:34,760

And, um, you know, I'm, like I said,

I'm the son of a schizophrenic and been

602

00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,659

in like, you know, crazy situations,

young mother and stuff like that.

603

00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,409

And you have to find humor

in it or don't or not.

604

00:25:43,790 --> 00:25:44,649

Marc Preston: That's survival, man.

605

00:25:44,649 --> 00:25:44,970

Yeah.

606

00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:45,370

Yeah.

607

00:25:45,649 --> 00:25:51,629

So you had this experience in these,

these mechanisms, uh, Was comedy kind

608

00:25:51,629 --> 00:25:54,270

of an escape for you at some point in

time when you kind of discovered it?

609

00:25:54,399 --> 00:25:57,790

Uh, was it kind of a cathartic for

lack of a better way of putting it?

610

00:25:57,790 --> 00:25:59,449

Or what kind of things were you consuming?

611

00:25:59,449 --> 00:26:02,989

Like, this is your kind of like,

uh, comfort food, if you will.

612

00:26:03,090 --> 00:26:06,790

Byron Bowers: I mean, like I said, I

started with Def Jam and, and you know,

613

00:26:06,790 --> 00:26:11,389

I was getting bullied in school and

then I realized this became a weapon

614

00:26:11,389 --> 00:26:13,219

for me, like a defense mechanism.

615

00:26:13,870 --> 00:26:16,050

So I could easily like

make fun of somebody.

616

00:26:16,745 --> 00:26:20,044

Three people at a time, football

players, it didn't matter, and they

617

00:26:20,044 --> 00:26:22,024

were like, people would be afraid of me.

618

00:26:22,674 --> 00:26:23,154

Marc Preston: Really?

619

00:26:23,364 --> 00:26:26,205

Byron Bowers: You know, so

then you become this bully.

620

00:26:26,284 --> 00:26:30,914

You know, it's the, you know, as Natalie

Portman said, they are the oppressed

621

00:26:30,914 --> 00:26:32,354

becoming the oppressor, you know.

622

00:26:33,274 --> 00:26:39,745

Um, so, it's, it's, uh, that's when

I realized I had this thing, but, uh,

623

00:26:40,990 --> 00:26:45,000

And then on this level, on this, the

drama, man, it's like, how do I find it?

624

00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,949

It's just the tenseness of it, you know,

like life is, we take certain things in

625

00:26:50,949 --> 00:26:55,009

life serious, but at the end of the day,

you know, we're going to die, you know?

626

00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:59,570

So it's the, it's, it's knowing

those things, you know, the spirit,

627

00:26:59,570 --> 00:27:02,300

the spirituality part of, of life.

628

00:27:02,330 --> 00:27:06,449

And then how serious we take, like, you

know, you, you put in the, you can't

629

00:27:06,459 --> 00:27:08,260

mix the cheese with the, with the meat.

630

00:27:09,284 --> 00:27:13,705

You know, or my first Shabbat dinner

is a part where you got to be quiet

631

00:27:13,894 --> 00:27:17,985

until they wash their hands, which is

hilarious, you know, cause I didn't

632

00:27:17,985 --> 00:27:19,114

even know how to work the sink.

633

00:27:20,944 --> 00:27:21,584

So,

634

00:27:21,864 --> 00:27:24,294

Marc Preston: well, wait a minute, but,

but if it's, but okay, if it's Shabbat

635

00:27:24,304 --> 00:27:28,384

though, and you're not Jewish, you're the

one having to turn everything on and off.

636

00:27:28,394 --> 00:27:31,914

You were the, you were the, uh,

you were the Shabbat, uh, Shabbos

637

00:27:31,914 --> 00:27:33,884

Goy, as they say, you know, okay.

638

00:27:34,904 --> 00:27:36,054

Byron Bowers: They were

pointing to the light switch.

639

00:27:36,745 --> 00:27:37,585

They're like, you thirsty?

640

00:27:37,585 --> 00:27:37,945

Yeah.

641

00:27:37,995 --> 00:27:41,395

And they walk into the alcohol

closet and be like, I can show you

642

00:27:41,395 --> 00:27:43,805

a bottle and they would like hint

at the lights and stuff like that.

643

00:27:45,035 --> 00:27:47,725

And I'm like, man, it's a lot,

it's a lot of rules here, you know?

644

00:27:47,775 --> 00:27:49,865

Marc Preston: You know, uh, I

didn't grow up Orthodox at all and

645

00:27:49,865 --> 00:27:53,224

definitely far away from that, but

uh, but I kind of appreciate it.

646

00:27:53,225 --> 00:27:55,625

But then again, some of it,

it's, you look at it and go.

647

00:27:56,009 --> 00:27:59,659

And I think this is any faith or

any kind of practice or anything

648

00:27:59,659 --> 00:28:03,529

like that, shot through the prism of

somebody else's perspective, it can

649

00:28:03,529 --> 00:28:06,929

be kind of humorous, but it's like,

Hey, it's where people find their joy.

650

00:28:06,939 --> 00:28:10,370

And you kind of, I think as you all get

older and mature, you find, Hey, that's

651

00:28:10,370 --> 00:28:11,689

where they find their joy and happiness.

652

00:28:11,709 --> 00:28:14,850

You know, that's how, who am I to

say that's, you know, whatever.

653

00:28:14,850 --> 00:28:18,889

But, uh, but yeah, and that one scene

with, um, Oh God, I forgot his name.

654

00:28:18,889 --> 00:28:23,919

I love, um, He's comedian also, uh,

uh, um, Brett, um, Oh, Brett Gilman.

655

00:28:24,030 --> 00:28:25,060

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

656

00:28:25,270 --> 00:28:27,129

And that was, that was

a great role for him.

657

00:28:27,139 --> 00:28:31,509

Cause he usually plays kind of a

absurd kind of adult, you know, the

658

00:28:31,509 --> 00:28:34,449

moments of tension and he, there was

a lot of heart and there was this,

659

00:28:34,489 --> 00:28:38,020

like these moments when they're kind

of, Trying to relate to one another

660

00:28:38,030 --> 00:28:41,190

with, I don't wanna give anything

away, but he does stand up, doesn't he?

661

00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:42,350

Or he just, I don't.

662

00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:45,270

Byron Bowers: Yeah, he do show,

he does shows occasionally,

663

00:28:45,409 --> 00:28:46,670

occasionally, you know what I mean?

664

00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:50,760

Uh, you can catch him probably at

the Dynasty Typewriter in LA and

665

00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,679

stuff like that, when he makes an

appearance, um, which is hilarious.

666

00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:58,190

Marc Preston: But you, but you were

saying that, uh, that we were, I

667

00:28:58,190 --> 00:28:59,290

didn't mean to cut you off before, but.

668

00:28:59,300 --> 00:28:59,610

I think,

669

00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:04,100

Byron Bowers: I think what

dialed it in for me is, um, I

670

00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,519

was in college my freshman year.

671

00:29:05,954 --> 00:29:10,124

And I was, I was depressed to

where I wanted to kill myself.

672

00:29:11,074 --> 00:29:14,934

And, you know, I'm a poor

kid in this strange town.

673

00:29:15,624 --> 00:29:17,964

And just thinking of how

could I kill myself with no

674

00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:21,164

resources just became funny.

675

00:29:22,254 --> 00:29:26,524

And it was a very spiritual moment

for me, you know what I mean?

676

00:29:27,254 --> 00:29:31,709

But it was a thing of like, you know,

How you gonna jump out the window?

677

00:29:31,709 --> 00:29:32,709

You on the first floor.

678

00:29:32,780 --> 00:29:35,239

You're going to be at the club

fucked up in a wheelchair.

679

00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:38,909

People got to put straws in

my, like all the funny things.

680

00:29:38,909 --> 00:29:42,319

And I felt like spiritually, I was

talking to the universe at the time.

681

00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,989

It was just going over these scenarios.

682

00:29:44,050 --> 00:29:44,949

Cause he was like, do it.

683

00:29:44,969 --> 00:29:46,080

This is going to happen to you.

684

00:29:46,489 --> 00:29:48,090

And if you do that, that's

going to happen to you.

685

00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,979

He's like, you can't hang yourself.

686

00:29:50,050 --> 00:29:53,120

Cause you know, that means you got to

tie a noose and you black, black people

687

00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,050

don't tie nooses, you know, and all this,

all these thoughts, you know what I mean?

688

00:29:57,050 --> 00:29:59,325

And we just became, it just became funny.

689

00:29:59,945 --> 00:30:01,845

Marc Preston: So was the

finding the humor in it?

690

00:30:01,865 --> 00:30:05,625

Or did you, did you have a chance

to talk with someone or what kind

691

00:30:05,625 --> 00:30:07,645

of pulled you through that funk?

692

00:30:07,645 --> 00:30:09,665

And I don't mean to sound reductive

when I say funk, but I mean,

693

00:30:09,665 --> 00:30:11,145

it's like that, that thing of.

694

00:30:11,205 --> 00:30:12,385

Byron Bowers: But no, that's what it is.

695

00:30:12,435 --> 00:30:19,055

What you have to, you have to really, I

think, understand, you know, some, some,

696

00:30:19,065 --> 00:30:25,495

for some of us, we have to get to those

lows and work ourselves out, um, you

697

00:30:25,495 --> 00:30:28,515

know, for, for us to really appreciate.

698

00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:31,910

Um, you know, life.

699

00:30:32,270 --> 00:30:36,410

So I didn't, I didn't talk to nobody

about it, but I definitely, you know,

700

00:30:36,410 --> 00:30:40,630

it happened a few more times and I

definitely got a Cedar pattern and

701

00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:42,830

realized that it's a very selfish thing.

702

00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,190

You're in a very selfish state because

you're thinking about yourself.

703

00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:50,030

And if I changed the scope, like by

the time I got to LA and I would feed

704

00:30:50,050 --> 00:30:54,300

homeless during the holidays, cause

I didn't, my family wasn't here.

705

00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:54,700

And.

706

00:30:55,170 --> 00:30:56,730

You know, I'm sleeping

on couches and stuff.

707

00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:59,110

And so I became a

service to somebody else.

708

00:30:59,630 --> 00:31:02,610

Then those things kind of

go away and you realize that

709

00:31:02,610 --> 00:31:03,630

Marc Preston: crazy how that works.

710

00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:06,250

When you pay it forward, even if you

feel like you don't have anything

711

00:31:06,250 --> 00:31:10,590

to pay forward, but when you do it,

it, it, there's, there's something

712

00:31:10,590 --> 00:31:13,940

transformative and kind of happen at

least a little shift in your perspective.

713

00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:16,360

Uh, the empathy I think helps a lot.

714

00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:21,440

When you realize other people are probably

dealing with the exact same thing, um,

715

00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:25,140

And, you know, and I think that all

the great comedians, unfortunately,

716

00:31:25,140 --> 00:31:29,930

you know, I think they've all had

moments like that, you know, I mean,

717

00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:32,160

certainly like, you know, Robin Williams.

718

00:31:32,190 --> 00:31:35,400

I mean, you know, you look at him and

you go, do you think that comedians

719

00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,620

have a different kind of DNA makeup?

720

00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:40,290

I don't mean literally DNA, but I

mean a little bit of a different,

721

00:31:40,850 --> 00:31:43,820

the way you perceive the world,

like you're finding humor.

722

00:31:44,210 --> 00:31:48,350

In the methodology of suicide, not being

able to find the right one that would

723

00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:53,630

actually would be effective, you know, but

do you think that that's part of the all

724

00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:57,630

comedians cut from a similar cloth in that

regard, being able to find the absurdity

725

00:31:57,630 --> 00:31:59,160

and the humor and things like that?

726

00:31:59,710 --> 00:32:02,900

Byron Bowers: I think so, but

I think so, but some comedians

727

00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:05,280

won't even go there, right?

728

00:32:06,380 --> 00:32:09,460

It takes a certain person

to see the duality of life.

729

00:32:10,085 --> 00:32:11,815

To be able to straddle both sides.

730

00:32:12,115 --> 00:32:12,495

Marc Preston (2): Oh, yeah.

731

00:32:12,595 --> 00:32:13,005

Oh, yeah,

732

00:32:13,075 --> 00:32:18,685

Byron Bowers: right And yeah, I know

some comedians they don't like silence

733

00:32:19,895 --> 00:32:21,245

They want everybody to like him.

734

00:32:21,615 --> 00:32:26,220

I'm just not I'm just happy to be not

one of those comedians So it lends my

735

00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:28,600

comedy to be more serious at times.

736

00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:31,900

Marc Preston: When you say that duality,

there is a, there is a, a philosopher,

737

00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:35,830

uh, named Alan Watts from back in the

day, you know, I heard of Alan Watts.

738

00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:36,330

Byron Bowers: Yeah.

739

00:32:36,380 --> 00:32:36,670

Marc Preston: Yeah.

740

00:32:36,670 --> 00:32:36,820

Yeah.

741

00:32:36,820 --> 00:32:39,450

He taught, you know, it talks about

that duality a lot and the human

742

00:32:39,450 --> 00:32:43,640

experience and, And how humans, how

we just take it all too serious.

743

00:32:43,650 --> 00:32:45,150

So kind of like what you

were saying before, you know,

744

00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:46,840

taking it all too seriously.

745

00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:50,010

Just, uh, when he talks about that

duality, it's like, you know, it's,

746

00:32:50,290 --> 00:32:53,150

you start getting to a certain age, you

realize life is a ride, you know, and

747

00:32:53,150 --> 00:32:54,360

you can have you up and ups and downs.

748

00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,900

You start, like you said, you

saw patterns and when you start

749

00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:58,020

seeing it, keep coming back.

750

00:32:58,030 --> 00:32:59,640

It's like, okay, it's just a wave.

751

00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,463

I'm surfing here.

752

00:33:00,463 --> 00:33:01,380

Kind of, you know?

753

00:33:01,650 --> 00:33:03,860

Byron Bowers: So I think that's

the thing that can't be taught is

754

00:33:03,860 --> 00:33:09,340

like, um, getting in tune with your

spiritual side, understanding your

755

00:33:09,410 --> 00:33:14,010

instincts, Like how, what's the

difference between fear and your voice

756

00:33:14,020 --> 00:33:15,580

saying like, this is what you do.

757

00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,130

And then going with that, having faith

to go with that because nobody else is.

758

00:33:21,025 --> 00:33:22,045

Doing that thing

759

00:33:22,855 --> 00:33:25,975

Marc Preston: as you were

working, uh, in Lady in the Lake?

760

00:33:26,035 --> 00:33:28,405

Um, I just adored Natalie Portman.

761

00:33:28,465 --> 00:33:31,135

I mean, I think she was just an, I'm

very, she's an alien, I think, you

762

00:33:31,135 --> 00:33:34,255

know, 'cause to, to watch her in the

professional and think she was only

763

00:33:34,255 --> 00:33:39,745

12 and just have that kind of presence

and just to the def to, I don't think

764

00:33:39,745 --> 00:33:41,035

she had really had any training at all.

765

00:33:41,035 --> 00:33:42,265

I was like, how does, that's alien?

766

00:33:42,265 --> 00:33:44,815

How does she get to, you know,

my kids know her more as, you

767

00:33:44,815 --> 00:33:47,665

know, princess s Leia and Luke

Skywalker's mother, you know.

768

00:33:48,025 --> 00:33:49,466

Um, but , that's hilarious.

769

00:33:49,735 --> 00:33:54,635

What was it like working with her

and, and something like this, which is

770

00:33:54,645 --> 00:33:56,225

something I haven't seen her do before.

771

00:33:56,235 --> 00:33:57,815

And, uh, which is fantastic.

772

00:33:57,865 --> 00:33:59,365

Byron Bowers: Um, I thought it was cool.

773

00:33:59,375 --> 00:34:07,295

You know, I mean, she definitely allowed

me in to like be fluid and like, you

774

00:34:07,295 --> 00:34:09,015

know, dance with her doing the scenes.

775

00:34:09,085 --> 00:34:13,095

Um, which was very helpful to me

working with somebody as such a,

776

00:34:13,175 --> 00:34:16,405

you know, high level of craft.

777

00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:19,850

You know, her craft level

is way higher than mine.

778

00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:24,760

Um, so, you know, she

allowed me to step up.

779

00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:25,850

That makes sense.

780

00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,150

Marc Preston: Oh, I

spoke with Dylan Arnold.

781

00:34:27,150 --> 00:34:28,570

He said something pretty similar.

782

00:34:28,570 --> 00:34:30,160

You know, she was, she was fully open.

783

00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:32,580

You know, there wasn't like, you know,

here comes the big star on the set.

784

00:34:32,580 --> 00:34:34,950

It was, she's mixing with everybody.

785

00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:37,190

Like she's on the same level, you know,

786

00:34:37,210 --> 00:34:38,260

Byron Bowers: she's very chill.

787

00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:42,300

And when it's, and even though, you

know, she's in producer mode, but

788

00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:44,160

she also in professional acting mode.

789

00:34:44,860 --> 00:34:49,030

And she came, she would come, she would

hit up Marcs, but during the scene,

790

00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:53,120

you know, sometimes when you do scenes

with people that you could tell they

791

00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:59,085

closed off, but you know, soulfully she

She was there with, you know, it makes

792

00:34:59,085 --> 00:35:00,785

Marc Preston: a lot easier

to react, doesn't it?

793

00:35:00,785 --> 00:35:04,005

Like when you're with somebody and they're

there, you can just bounce off them.

794

00:35:04,005 --> 00:35:05,115

It makes your job easier.

795

00:35:05,145 --> 00:35:05,675

Yeah.

796

00:35:06,095 --> 00:35:09,225

Um, well, no, I was curious by the way,

kind of going back to the origin story

797

00:35:09,225 --> 00:35:11,745

now, what kind of work did your folks do?

798

00:35:12,185 --> 00:35:15,615

Uh, would it was anybody in

your family and comedy or acting

799

00:35:15,615 --> 00:35:16,805

or anything performance wise?

800

00:35:16,805 --> 00:35:17,035

No,

801

00:35:17,035 --> 00:35:18,745

Byron Bowers: no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

802

00:35:18,755 --> 00:35:24,155

My, my mother, uh, you know, she worked

at a company called Certain Teed and

803

00:35:24,155 --> 00:35:26,460

they would make like, uh, What is it?

804

00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:29,100

Fiber stuff that goes into

the walls in the roof.

805

00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,230

Uh, and she will waitress when I was born.

806

00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:36,640

And my dad was a Navy guy who ended

up working for the power company.

807

00:35:37,780 --> 00:35:41,710

But, uh, in Athens, a lot of people end

up working at the, uh, you know, the

808

00:35:41,770 --> 00:35:45,940

chicken factory, the chicken plant, you

know, yeah, it's one of those towns.

809

00:35:45,950 --> 00:35:50,520

My granddaddy did that and he hauled

chickens and then my grandmother, uh, I

810

00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,420

think clean, like the universities, uh,

You know, dorm rooms and stuff like that.

811

00:35:56,020 --> 00:35:58,500

And then my other grandma

worked in the, in like the,

812

00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:01,080

the hood at the daycare center.

813

00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:05,760

Um, and she was like a nanny type

situation, but before that they all

814

00:36:05,770 --> 00:36:09,020

formed, you know, when they was, they

had to drop out of school and like

815

00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:13,150

form and pick cotton and whatever,

you know, forming they had to do.

816

00:36:13,935 --> 00:36:18,015

Marc Preston: So like when here you are

departing into this creative endeavor, you

817

00:36:18,015 --> 00:36:21,295

know, you're not getting your hands dirty,

you know You're not coming home Well,

818

00:36:21,295 --> 00:36:24,875

like a Bernie's Bernie Sanders said is

like, you know There were some people take

819

00:36:24,875 --> 00:36:27,435

the shower in the morning and at night

These are all people taking the shower

820

00:36:27,435 --> 00:36:30,115

at night because they've been getting

dirty all day Oh, yeah, you are doing

821

00:36:30,115 --> 00:36:31,855

the comedy or the the creative thing.

822

00:36:31,855 --> 00:36:33,915

How was that received by by the family?

823

00:36:33,915 --> 00:36:35,345

Byron Bowers: Oh, they didn't like it.

824

00:36:35,905 --> 00:36:36,805

They didn't like it at all.

825

00:36:37,105 --> 00:36:42,354

It's very disappointing actually Because

I never I never would talk as a kid You

826

00:36:42,835 --> 00:36:44,245

So they didn't even know me to be funny.

827

00:36:45,415 --> 00:36:46,735

So they were shocked.

828

00:36:46,735 --> 00:36:47,665

I mean, were you an only

829

00:36:47,665 --> 00:36:50,005

Marc Preston: child or did

you, did you have siblings or?

830

00:36:50,065 --> 00:36:50,935

Byron Bowers: No, I had a little sister.

831

00:36:50,935 --> 00:36:52,375

I had a younger sister, um

832

00:36:52,885 --> 00:36:52,915

Marc Preston: Oh,

833

00:36:53,395 --> 00:36:53,455

Byron Bowers: okay.

834

00:36:53,455 --> 00:36:59,245

Who probably had more personality than

me, but, uh, it's just shocking, man.

835

00:36:59,245 --> 00:37:03,535

I was also one of the first graduate from

college also, you know, I went to school

836

00:37:03,535 --> 00:37:06,805

for engineering and uh, I got a Bachelor

of Science in business Management.

837

00:37:07,735 --> 00:37:10,115

So, you know, they stress education a lot.

838

00:37:10,235 --> 00:37:13,615

And then at the day I graduated,

that's when I dropped the bomb.

839

00:37:13,625 --> 00:37:14,845

Like, I'm just going to do stand up.

840

00:37:15,415 --> 00:37:16,395

Marc Preston: It's kind

of like one for you.

841

00:37:16,415 --> 00:37:17,145

Not one for me.

842

00:37:17,325 --> 00:37:18,825

You know, yeah, it was one of those.

843

00:37:18,845 --> 00:37:19,215

Byron Bowers: Yeah.

844

00:37:19,215 --> 00:37:22,155

So, uh, that added to the disappointment.

845

00:37:22,835 --> 00:37:24,375

My grandmother definitely didn't like it.

846

00:37:24,555 --> 00:37:26,855

Like the silliness and all those things.

847

00:37:26,925 --> 00:37:27,465

Well, fast

848

00:37:27,465 --> 00:37:30,125

Marc Preston: forward, you're

finding success in doing this thing.

849

00:37:30,265 --> 00:37:32,775

Um, what's their perception now?

850

00:37:32,815 --> 00:37:36,720

Kind of like, are they like,

you know, Are they getting it?

851

00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:39,930

Have they got, I mean, like, okay, this

is a thing he does and he does well.

852

00:37:39,940 --> 00:37:41,900

Or is it still like, I don't know, man.

853

00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:43,520

And when he's in one of these

days, he'll get a real job.

854

00:37:44,290 --> 00:37:45,160

Byron Bowers: Here's the thing.

855

00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:48,790

My, uh, my grandmother don't

believe people should fly.

856

00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,920

Marc Preston: Like an, an airplane flyer.

857

00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,500

Byron Bowers: Yeah.

858

00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:52,140

Marc Preston: Okay.

859

00:37:52,140 --> 00:37:58,220

Byron Bowers: So this is way, and that's

way more successful than what I do.

860

00:37:58,650 --> 00:38:02,280

So I can imagine she's just

like, you know, Oh, okay.

861

00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:06,875

You know, When they, when they be

like, how, how was your little gig?

862

00:38:07,035 --> 00:38:12,075

Then that just let me know like, okay,

but she's definitely happy that it

863

00:38:12,575 --> 00:38:14,095

I think it took me around the world.

864

00:38:14,095 --> 00:38:17,215

I think it's something shocking

to people when something like

865

00:38:18,035 --> 00:38:20,015

this like starts to pan out.

866

00:38:20,505 --> 00:38:21,755

And it takes you everywhere.

867

00:38:21,835 --> 00:38:25,065

Marc Preston: You know, having kids,

I'm like, I just want them to find joy.

868

00:38:25,075 --> 00:38:27,855

You know, I don't, I think a lot of

parents want to have, like, their kid

869

00:38:27,865 --> 00:38:31,715

have a fancy title on the business card

or have like, um, you know, okay, you're,

870

00:38:31,715 --> 00:38:34,495

you're with somebody who's Jewish,

you know, Oh, the Jewish attorney, the

871

00:38:34,535 --> 00:38:36,425

doctor, you know, that kind of thing.

872

00:38:36,455 --> 00:38:39,655

I just like, Hey, find joy in the

world, find contentment in the thing

873

00:38:39,655 --> 00:38:43,215

you do, you know, can feel like you're

contributing something like that.

874

00:38:43,215 --> 00:38:44,065

Pay it forward thing.

875

00:38:44,335 --> 00:38:45,285

That's what I want for them.

876

00:38:45,285 --> 00:38:47,185

And it could manifest

in many different ways.

877

00:38:47,635 --> 00:38:50,015

Byron Bowers: If I, hopefully

my kid, my daughter would like.

878

00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,090

Yeah, I could do whatever

she wants to, and she won't

879

00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,730

have to worry about finances.

880

00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,620

You know what I mean?

881

00:38:56,860 --> 00:39:02,520

Um, but you know, as of now,

she got to worry about it.

882

00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:03,840

Marc Preston (2): Wait, wait.

883

00:39:04,190 --> 00:39:05,130

So how old is your daughter?

884

00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:06,950

16 months.

885

00:39:07,130 --> 00:39:08,240

Oh, you got a little one.

886

00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:08,700

Okay.

887

00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:09,020

Okay.

888

00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:09,230

I got,

889

00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:10,710

Byron Bowers: I got a

tiny, I got a tiny one.

890

00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:14,050

So it's something about that.

891

00:39:14,270 --> 00:39:17,590

They're smiling and that first

little naivete they have.

892

00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,880

Um, which is very like, I don't know, man.

893

00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,030

It's something about it that, you know,

that they're going to lose that one day.

894

00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:28,870

Marc Preston: You know, I'd heard

somebody say once that there's

895

00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:32,020

something, and I, I, I believe this, I

think there's something kind of cool.

896

00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:36,890

They're closer to the, I don't care what

faith or spirituality, but they're closer

897

00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:38,600

to the source or whatever it's all about.

898

00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,890

They're like right out of the

gate, right out of the gate.

899

00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,130

You look at kids sometimes and you

just like, how did they know that?

900

00:39:45,130 --> 00:39:45,910

How did the, you know, there's.

901

00:39:46,780 --> 00:39:50,390

You know, they just, they're sponges,

but at the same time, there's stuff

902

00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:53,270

I think we learned from them, just

observing, you know, the way they

903

00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:55,800

play, you know, uh, that kind of thing.

904

00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,705

But, Elmike and My Good Minor, 21, I don't

know if I could go back and do it all over

905

00:40:01,705 --> 00:40:05,515

again, have a diaper genie and be crazy

going through the whole routine again.

906

00:40:05,925 --> 00:40:09,135

But I have a four month old golden

retriever puppies or your third golden.

907

00:40:09,135 --> 00:40:11,975

And so I'm like, it's almost like

having a toddler all over again.

908

00:40:12,455 --> 00:40:12,735

Marc Preston (2): But,

909

00:40:13,345 --> 00:40:15,285

Marc Preston: but that's the closest,

but cause I'm an empty nester.

910

00:40:15,285 --> 00:40:18,655

Now my daughter last Saturday just went

off to Florida to go to go to school.

911

00:40:18,665 --> 00:40:20,605

So I'm like, it's all just me now.

912

00:40:20,615 --> 00:40:24,385

Well, it's me and you, you know,

that's hilarious, but it's special.

913

00:40:24,385 --> 00:40:26,165

I think that, uh, you said to the

914

00:40:26,165 --> 00:40:26,465

Marc Preston (2): floor.

915

00:40:27,635 --> 00:40:27,845

Marc Preston: Yeah.

916

00:40:27,845 --> 00:40:30,045

She, she has, she's, she's in Boca Raton.

917

00:40:30,045 --> 00:40:30,255

Yeah.

918

00:40:30,255 --> 00:40:32,675

She really wanted to go down

there and she, she's a smart kid.

919

00:40:32,685 --> 00:40:35,625

All my kids are, you know, they

all get A's they're on Dean's list.

920

00:40:35,635 --> 00:40:38,055

They're all, they're way

smarter than me, you know?

921

00:40:38,115 --> 00:40:38,465

Yeah.

922

00:40:38,825 --> 00:40:41,585

Oh, she's no, no, she's not going to

university of Florida, you know, nothing

923

00:40:41,585 --> 00:40:44,705

against the university of Florida, but

she's, she's going to a school that, uh,

924

00:40:45,105 --> 00:40:46,855

uh, it's a very small private university.

925

00:40:46,855 --> 00:40:50,685

So she's, she's got master

plans, you know, that's good.

926

00:40:50,970 --> 00:40:54,210

Uh, but she's, I think she'd do wonderful

in public relations and things like that.

927

00:40:54,210 --> 00:40:57,190

Cause she, she's shy, but she,

people used to come up to me

928

00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:58,700

like, your daughter is so shy.

929

00:40:58,710 --> 00:41:01,480

You know, I was like, no, no,

she's studying you right now.

930

00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:04,570

You know, she's like, you know, observing

and kind of putting it all together.

931

00:41:04,860 --> 00:41:07,110

But you said when you were young,

you just weren't very talkative.

932

00:41:07,110 --> 00:41:09,010

Were you kind of more of an introvert or?

933

00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,290

Byron Bowers: I mean,

I'm still an introvert.

934

00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:11,230

I'm still an introvert.

935

00:41:11,380 --> 00:41:13,710

I could go like days

without talking to people.

936

00:41:14,660 --> 00:41:15,040

Marc Preston: Isn't that wonderful?

937

00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,710

Isn't that wonderful sometimes though?

938

00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:19,170

It's like, you just, you know, have, it's.

939

00:41:19,630 --> 00:41:20,510

Kind of peaceful,

940

00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,840

Byron Bowers: especially the

older, the older you get, the

941

00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,670

crazy the world looks to you.

942

00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,930

Um, cause you see your people,

you know, make certain decisions.

943

00:41:30,860 --> 00:41:36,660

Uh, and you know, I might've started as,

as the, I might've started as a crazy one.

944

00:41:37,410 --> 00:41:42,150

And maybe I am still the crazy one,

but I'm like, you know, yeah, it just,

945

00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:44,020

it just becomes, it just becomes wow.

946

00:41:44,780 --> 00:41:45,000

Marc Preston: Yeah.

947

00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,190

I'm definitely not a psychologist, but

I think part of it is we start off like.

948

00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,900

I don't know.

949

00:41:49,940 --> 00:41:50,370

It's crazy.

950

00:41:50,370 --> 00:41:54,190

I don't like to use the word crazy

sometimes because I think what it is is

951

00:41:54,190 --> 00:42:00,070

a lot of us, a lot of people have a much

more refined perception of the world.

952

00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,080

And until you start learning how to deal

with the world, the stress of it causes.

953

00:42:04,660 --> 00:42:05,680

Byron Bowers: That's what it is.

954

00:42:06,450 --> 00:42:07,100

That's what it is.

955

00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:08,190

People tuck it in.

956

00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:10,710

People tuck it in.

957

00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,350

They know they got other stuff they could

be doing, but they caught up into the,

958

00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:17,480

whatever society is telling them to do.

959

00:42:18,195 --> 00:42:20,805

Marc Preston: Yeah, it's like kids have

got a lot of stuff going on at home,

960

00:42:20,805 --> 00:42:24,945

then they go to school with some other

kids who don't have a lot, the same kind

961

00:42:24,945 --> 00:42:26,535

of a lot going on at home, you know?

962

00:42:27,355 --> 00:42:30,605

And then it's like, it's harder to,

it's like, wait a minute, I'm coming

963

00:42:30,605 --> 00:42:35,465

home into a very, like sometimes a

war zone, sometimes a hardcore drama,

964

00:42:35,465 --> 00:42:39,175

whatever it is, then I'm off to school,

which can be its own, like, you know.

965

00:42:40,275 --> 00:42:43,285

especially junior high, puberty,

adolescence and all that stuff.

966

00:42:43,285 --> 00:42:47,365

It's like it, you know, there is an actor,

acting coach I know of, he has, he, he

967

00:42:47,365 --> 00:42:51,335

has a acting a book on acting and I know

I'm going to mess up the title of it.

968

00:42:51,425 --> 00:42:55,545

He said, it's, um, he said, if, if you

made it through seventh grade, you can

969

00:42:55,555 --> 00:42:57,525

be an actor or something like that.

970

00:42:57,525 --> 00:43:01,965

You know, it's that idea that, uh,

you know, it's that disconnect.

971

00:43:01,965 --> 00:43:05,935

Like seemingly you go to schools or you

have a social situation going on where

972

00:43:05,935 --> 00:43:09,790

you're like, Do these people not have to

contend with the same thing I do at home?

973

00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,080

You know, I know a lot of folks like

that, but, and then you go to class

974

00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,770

reunions and later on you realize, Oh,

they were dealing with their own shit.

975

00:43:15,820 --> 00:43:20,430

You know, they were better at kind of,

you know, the theater of it as it were.

976

00:43:20,430 --> 00:43:20,970

Masking

977

00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:21,130

Byron Bowers: it.

978

00:43:21,130 --> 00:43:21,570

Yeah.

979

00:43:21,650 --> 00:43:25,950

And, uh, I, yeah, it's just, I remember

being on the bus with this guy.

980

00:43:26,030 --> 00:43:27,010

I ain't gonna say his name.

981

00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:32,530

Uh, we was in junior high school

and he was sick and you know, buses

982

00:43:32,530 --> 00:43:36,010

like, A school bus will really

teach you about society, right?

983

00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,960

Because you got the cool people want

to sit in one side and you got the

984

00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,990

people in the back who think they They

they are the cool ones the ones these

985

00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,350

groups want to be the cool ones And

then you got all the rejects, right?

986

00:43:48,610 --> 00:43:51,270

They gotta find a seat when they

get on the bus and i'm one of those

987

00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:56,910

like rejects And I sit next to a

guy And he and he's sick, right?

988

00:43:57,250 --> 00:44:02,605

Like he's like ball up in his

seat and You Uh, you know,

989

00:44:02,605 --> 00:44:03,625

I'm asking him, he all right.

990

00:44:03,625 --> 00:44:08,185

He was like, yeah, his locker

got raided by the police and

991

00:44:08,185 --> 00:44:10,945

he had to swallow the drugs.

992

00:44:11,095 --> 00:44:11,695

Marc Preston: Oh my.

993

00:44:12,805 --> 00:44:18,235

Byron Bowers: Like, we like 15

years old and, and I'm the child

994

00:44:18,235 --> 00:44:20,905

of a, of a drug addict at the time.

995

00:44:22,045 --> 00:44:26,575

And at this moment I'm looking

up and I'm seeing people like

996

00:44:26,575 --> 00:44:28,285

play and all these other things.

997

00:44:29,095 --> 00:44:30,435

These little high school things.

998

00:44:30,435 --> 00:44:35,155

And I'm realizing that that moment

that our realities are different.

999

00:44:35,325 --> 00:44:35,715

Yeah.

Speaker:
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Marc Preston: Isn't that

something, isn't that?

Speaker:
1001

00:44:37,905 --> 00:44:38,395

Yeah.

Speaker:
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Yeah.

Speaker:
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Now every, everything's relative.

Speaker:
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You know, you, you know, somebody may

be going through something that it's

Speaker:
1005

00:44:43,005 --> 00:44:44,645

hitting them hard, but it's not as yeah.

Speaker:
1006

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Life altering is something that

somebody else is going through.

Speaker:
1007

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Yeah.

Speaker:
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Byron Bowers: Yeah.

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Yeah.

Speaker:
1010

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Yeah.

Speaker:
1011

00:44:49,875 --> 00:44:52,955

Cause that we w we was all heading

to back to different environments.

Speaker:
1012

00:44:52,965 --> 00:44:53,265

Right.

Speaker:
1013

00:44:53,265 --> 00:44:53,994

Marc Preston (3): Yeah.

Speaker:
1014

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Yeah.

Speaker:
1015

00:44:55,175 --> 00:44:56,665

Byron Bowers: And that's

the re that's the reality.

Speaker:
1016

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That's the reality of it.

Speaker:
1017

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So, yeah, man.

Speaker:
1018

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Yeah, you're right.

Speaker:
1019

00:45:01,375 --> 00:45:04,245

Those times are very, very challenging.

Speaker:
1020

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And to go through that again

in Hollywood is the pattern.

Speaker:
1021

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Marc Preston: To me, Hollywood seems like

it's like, Like a really really really big

Speaker:
1022

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high school, you know, sometimes it is.

Speaker:
1023

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Yeah, you know, I think especially when

I speak to young actors and I you know,

Speaker:
1024

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i'm It just seems like especially with

the advent now, which thank god I didn't

Speaker:
1025

00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,660

have social media when I was a kid I can't

even imagine that layer of uh Stress.

Speaker:
1026

00:45:28,660 --> 00:45:31,410

Like my kids, like my daughter,

Emma, she just does not want

Speaker:
1027

00:45:31,410 --> 00:45:32,460

me taking pictures of her.

Speaker:
1028

00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,720

I'm like, cause she thinks I'm going to

post them and then I never do, you know?

Speaker:
1029

00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:36,460

Yeah.

Speaker:
1030

00:45:36,460 --> 00:45:38,940

But it's like, but they don't

want anything to do with social

Speaker:
1031

00:45:38,940 --> 00:45:39,850

media and have their pictures.

Speaker:
1032

00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,650

Like it's just not, that

does not get them going.

Speaker:
1033

00:45:41,710 --> 00:45:44,340

Where's other kids they went to

school with and there's nothing wrong

Speaker:
1034

00:45:44,340 --> 00:45:47,800

with it, but it's almost like kids

in school now are running their own

Speaker:
1035

00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,970

public relations agency for themselves.

Speaker:
1036

00:45:49,970 --> 00:45:51,740

Like, here's what I want

people to think about me.

Speaker:
1037

00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,230

You know,

Speaker:
1038

00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:52,820

Byron Bowers: agree.

Speaker:
1039

00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:57,345

I think it could be a little

something wrong with it because I

Speaker:
1040

00:45:57,345 --> 00:46:00,425

mean, and kudos to you that your

Children don't want to do that.

Speaker:
1041

00:46:01,025 --> 00:46:04,755

So it just shows a level

of confidence sometimes.

Speaker:
1042

00:46:04,755 --> 00:46:10,615

And they might value your opinion

over the opinion of some dude in Iowa.

Speaker:
1043

00:46:10,905 --> 00:46:12,895

Marc Preston: That's why I don't

even get on Twitter X or whatever.

Speaker:
1044

00:46:12,895 --> 00:46:20,305

And, you know, for me, I just don't

see, uh, uh, Any value in arguing, you

Speaker:
1045

00:46:20,305 --> 00:46:23,635

know, it's like you got enough acrimony

and life in general is like man I want

Speaker:
1046

00:46:23,685 --> 00:46:26,895

peace, you know, I don't want to invite

this person into my world, you know

Speaker:
1047

00:46:27,995 --> 00:46:30,325

But some people get into that they

thrive and I think you know, like one

Speaker:
1048

00:46:30,325 --> 00:46:34,500

of my favorite Current comedians is

Patton Oswalt Who I think, you know,

Speaker:
1049

00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:35,690

he's very active and need to talk.

Speaker:
1050

00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,990

And anybody brings some of

that into his show, I think.

Speaker:
1051

00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:41,010

But, uh, uh, but I'm kind of curious

to talk about the comedy thing.

Speaker:
1052

00:46:41,010 --> 00:46:43,380

Just decide now, like who

are you watching right now?

Speaker:
1053

00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:46,000

Like who are the people like that

kind of fire up your imagination?

Speaker:
1054

00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,580

Maybe make you want to get back

on stage and work some things out.

Speaker:
1055

00:46:50,270 --> 00:46:54,340

Byron Bowers: I don't see too,

too many comedians myself.

Speaker:
1056

00:46:54,340 --> 00:46:58,230

Cause I think once you find your voice,

you don't have to observe it too much.

Speaker:
1057

00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:03,910

And when you're in a relationship, , you

don't really need to do it too much

Speaker:
1058

00:47:03,970 --> 00:47:05,230

if you're in a loving relationship.

Speaker:
1059

00:47:05,260 --> 00:47:05,410

Oh,

Speaker:
1060

00:47:05,410 --> 00:47:05,755

Marc Preston: yeah, yeah.

Speaker:
1061

00:47:05,950 --> 00:47:08,080

Well, no, I mean, more like what,

what gets a laugh out of you?

Speaker:
1062

00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,030

Like who are you going, like,

this person cracks me up.

Speaker:
1063

00:47:10,030 --> 00:47:12,280

I, I, I, from entertainment's sake.

Speaker:
1064

00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:12,640

Yeah.

Speaker:
1065

00:47:12,730 --> 00:47:16,600

Byron Bowers: Who I, who I see

that I like is, uh, this guy Ali

Speaker:
1066

00:47:17,140 --> 00:47:18,580

D, who's a great storyteller.

Speaker:
1067

00:47:19,630 --> 00:47:23,620

He's a great, amazing storyteller, and

he paints the pictures well, and he

Speaker:
1068

00:47:23,620 --> 00:47:27,370

takes you on that, on that journey,

which I think a good story does, right?

Speaker:
1069

00:47:27,550 --> 00:47:27,880

Marc Preston: Indeed.

Speaker:
1070

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Yeah.

Speaker:
1071

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Byron Bowers: Um.

Speaker:
1072

00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:33,610

Yeah, so, um, that's

somebody who I like watching.

Speaker:
1073

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And then also, uh, you know, live is

probably somebody that, uh, I don't

Speaker:
1074

00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:43,410

know the name, but if I'm in the

club and they go on before me, it'd

Speaker:
1075

00:47:43,410 --> 00:47:48,240

be like the worst joke you ever want

to hear that you wouldn't repeat.

Speaker:
1076

00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:54,655

You know, I still like those, uh, I

still like those, uh, water cooler.

Speaker:
1077

00:47:54,745 --> 00:47:56,765

Uh, water fountain humor jokes.

Speaker:
1078

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Marc Preston: Oh, yeah, I do.

Speaker:
1079

00:47:58,685 --> 00:47:59,415

I do as well.

Speaker:
1080

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I do as well.

Speaker:
1081

00:47:59,865 --> 00:48:04,525

You know, the other thing is people

that can tell a story that is Awkward.

Speaker:
1082

00:48:04,525 --> 00:48:06,025

You know, it just makes him feel awkward.

Speaker:
1083

00:48:06,085 --> 00:48:09,595

Uh, or, or you, you would think it would,

but everybody, I think you mentioned

Speaker:
1084

00:48:09,595 --> 00:48:13,645

it even ear even earlier, uh, that

everybody can kind of identify with it.

Speaker:
1085

00:48:13,645 --> 00:48:17,965

I think I had a Dane Cook on a little

while back and, you know, here's this

Speaker:
1086

00:48:17,965 --> 00:48:20,965

guy working like this big stadium,

you know, and I can't even imagine

Speaker:
1087

00:48:20,965 --> 00:48:24,055

his comedian being in the round and

having a, just you and a microphone and

Speaker:
1088

00:48:24,355 --> 00:48:26,485

all these people looking at you, but.

Speaker:
1089

00:48:26,830 --> 00:48:30,360

It seems like the more you put out there,

it, it kind of, the more it connects

Speaker:
1090

00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,210

with people and it kind of like, it

could be not necessarily overtly funny,

Speaker:
1091

00:48:34,210 --> 00:48:35,530

but it's something we all identify with.

Speaker:
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And that is kind of funny, you know?

Speaker:
1093

00:48:37,150 --> 00:48:37,550

Yeah.

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Byron Bowers: Agreed.

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Agreed.

Speaker:
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It's a way, you know, and I'm doing

that now as I regroup and rebuild,

Speaker:
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you know, now that I got a family,

it's like, what do I want to talk?

Speaker:
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00:48:46,510 --> 00:48:48,900

Can I talk about the same

things I could talk about?

Speaker:
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00:48:49,530 --> 00:48:51,610

You know, am I the same person?

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Like as, as I figure these, you

know, These, these things out,

Speaker:
1101

00:48:56,060 --> 00:48:59,710

you know, uh, is a part of the

journey cause I know everybody else

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is going through the same thing.

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Marc Preston: Yeah.

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I, uh, you know, that's, that's a kind of

the humor I like that and the word Smiths.

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That's why I like, I like, uh, Patton

Oswalt to me is kind of a word Smith.

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He can work that Karlin was that.

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I mean, I would.

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I heard he used to write out, everything

was written out and just his memorization.

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00:49:18,735 --> 00:49:22,505

If I, we could get Carlin back right now

for just cause we can just get him for

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1110

00:49:22,505 --> 00:49:26,935

like a few months just to, I mean if you

watch his stuff from the nineties even

Speaker:
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00:49:26,935 --> 00:49:31,285

earlier and where we're living at now,

it's like, okay, he knew something or he

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had, he had a little crystal ball there.

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You know, I

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Byron Bowers: think you can see it.

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I think you can see the patterns and

where we're, where we're heading cause

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we've been, we've been here before.

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Oh yeah.

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Uh, and society, you know, different

societies before us have been here before.

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So it's crazy how we end up here.

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And somebody was like, you know,

I was talking to a young person.

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They was like, if we end

up here, they was afraid.

Speaker:
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They was like, what can we do to stop it?

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I'm like, spiritually, it's

just part of the human cycle.

Speaker:
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Marc Preston: You're in it for the ride.

Speaker:
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It's like surfing, you know,

you might fall off the board

Speaker:
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and be you're, you're in it.

Speaker:
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Just kind of go through it and

just go, you know, Enjoy it.

Speaker:
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Byron Bowers: Yeah.

Speaker:
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00:50:10,125 --> 00:50:10,785

Enjoy it.

Speaker:
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They said the world is messed

up, but this is our world.

Speaker:
1131

00:50:14,365 --> 00:50:15,885

It don't matter what's

going on in the world.

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This is, this is our time as spiritual

beings on this planet to enjoy it.

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Because if you like 20 and 30, you

still got to deal with arthritis

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00:50:26,125 --> 00:50:28,675

and shit in like 20 years.

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Marc Preston: yeah.

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Or needing reading glasses.

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Oh yeah.

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My eyes comment.

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My eyes comment.

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So yeah, I was like, I made

it just a little past four.

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Everybody says when you return 40, I'm

like, ah, I still got amazing vision.

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Then I was like starting like squinting.

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I was like, all right, here we go.

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1145

00:50:43,140 --> 00:50:44,630

Um, but no, you've got it by the way.

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1146

00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:45,130

Heard something.

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00:50:45,130 --> 00:50:48,920

Aren't you doing like not wonder

woman, but wonder, wonder man.

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00:50:49,775 --> 00:50:53,835

Uh, like, okay, I doubt you can say

that much about it, but I kind of, I

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kind of took a look and saw that Ben

Kingsley is going to be doing this thing.

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I saw that.

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Byron Bowers: I saw that, you know,

I can't confirm and deny, but I

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00:51:03,935 --> 00:51:06,095

read the same thing you've read.

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So stay, stay tuned.

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Stay tuned.

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You know,

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Marc Preston: are you still

doing the comedy thing?

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Are you still, are you, are you kind of

focusing just on the on camera thing?

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I was

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Byron Bowers: on stage.

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I was on stage the, uh, the other night

talking about the, The, uh, I guess

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I can't say what I was talking about,

but cause it's better for a live show,

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but you know, I took my, uh, we took

our daughter to Israel in November,

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00:51:28,875 --> 00:51:33,615

so she's talking about, yeah, her

first, her first little war, you know,

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my baby's first war, you know, uh,

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00:51:38,405 --> 00:51:41,325

Marc Preston: again, some of that

stuff, that's like the absurdity of it.

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00:51:41,495 --> 00:51:41,805

You got

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Byron Bowers: to laugh

cause it's people there.

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It's people.

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00:51:44,715 --> 00:51:45,975

We know they're raising.

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00:51:46,005 --> 00:51:46,265

Well,

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00:51:46,355 --> 00:51:48,575

Marc Preston: let me tell you that

knowing the people who live in Israel,

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00:51:48,575 --> 00:51:50,435

they have to find that sense of humor.

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00:51:50,465 --> 00:51:51,285

A lot of times.

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Before we get scooting, uh, I always do

my seven questions as we wrap up here.

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Just a little fun.

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First question.

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I always love asking, love talking food.

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Uh, I talked about the varsity

earlier and chili dogs.

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I'm curious, what is your

favorite comfort food?

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00:52:12,895 --> 00:52:14,695

The thing that You are having a great day.

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00:52:14,695 --> 00:52:15,865

You're like, Hmm, I'm

gonna get some of that.

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00:52:15,865 --> 00:52:18,955

Or the day sucks and you're like, I

just, this'll make me feel better.

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1183

00:52:19,915 --> 00:52:22,825

Byron Bowers: Hamburgers and

fries, hamburgers and french fries,

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00:52:22,885 --> 00:52:26,185

Marc Preston: homemade or are you more, is

there somewhere specific you'd like to go?

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Byron Bowers: No.

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Fast food.

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00:52:26,995 --> 00:52:30,235

I used to like to go to

this famous restaurant.

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00:52:30,235 --> 00:52:34,555

I want to give 'em no credit, but,

uh, no, I can say it was McDonald's.

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I used to go to McDonald's a lot and

then, uh, you know, my girl is really,

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so, I mean, a lot of that cuts out.

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Well,

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Marc Preston: there's, you got in

and out that, you know, there, by the

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way, if you're ever in Texas, come on

down and get us down here on the set.

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Oh yes.

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What a burger.

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Yeah.

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Byron Bowers: Yeah.

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What a burger, man.

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That's that, uh, what's the one

with the, the, uh, the patty

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00:52:54,815 --> 00:52:56,465

milk with the sourdough bread.

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Marc Preston (2): Oh yeah.

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The text.

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Yeah.

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You just

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Byron Bowers: eat it in your underwear,

you know, uh, what a burger, you know?

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So I definitely like that.

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I can't have as much anymore.

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So now, you know, when I go

somewhere, it has to be very like.

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Special.

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Like I'm now I'm going to

spend like 20 for a hamburger.

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Yeah.

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I'm not supposed to eat them no more.

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It gotta, it gotta be good.

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Marc Preston: I don't believe certain

things are ever designed to be fancy.

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Uh, pizza, burgers, tacos.

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It's, there's something about like

utility, you know, uh, like I do like

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in and out burger, uh, whenever we're

in California, we're always there,

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but now we live on an Island on the

South Texas coast here and we've

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got one water burger on the Island.

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South Padre.

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Yes, sir, that's where I'm at.

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Byron Bowers: I've been

there crazy story, but yeah,

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Marc Preston: but so hamburger fries at

your comfort food That's that's righteous

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now next question If you're gonna sit

down with some for coffee talk story for

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00:53:50,685 --> 00:53:55,305

a few hours You got three people you can

sit down living or not Who are those three

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00:53:55,305 --> 00:53:56,935

people be you would like to sit down with

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00:53:57,345 --> 00:54:00,245

Byron Bowers: Wow Wow, that's

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00:54:03,335 --> 00:54:09,605

I never thought about that I think,

uh, one would be, uh, John Rockefeller.

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00:54:11,145 --> 00:54:15,605

Um, the second would be, uh,

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probably, uh, maybe Pryor.

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00:54:24,165 --> 00:54:26,945

And the third, I think I

would do my grandfather.

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Marc Preston: One thing if I was

younger, I wish I had the presence

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00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:36,130

of mind to know, to ask a lot of

questions, you know, to really digest

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00:54:36,130 --> 00:54:38,130

even more, you know, but that's good.

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1235

00:54:38,130 --> 00:54:38,540

That's good.

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00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:40,910

And so, uh, are you a coffee guy?

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00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:46,845

Byron Bowers: No, we would have to do,

uh, uh, Like lemonade or something.

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00:54:47,045 --> 00:54:48,155

Another great drink.

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Marc Preston: If you're from the

South, it's just what you do.

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00:54:51,115 --> 00:54:54,125

You know, but the other thing is

I never got into the sweet tea.

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1241

00:54:54,125 --> 00:54:54,815

I like regular tea.

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00:54:54,815 --> 00:54:55,545

I never, I don't know.

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1243

00:54:55,965 --> 00:54:56,385

I'm a weirdo.

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00:54:57,165 --> 00:54:58,755

It's good, but I don't,

I don't, I like it.

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1245

00:54:58,755 --> 00:55:00,485

Just, I like just the flavor of the tea.

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00:55:00,505 --> 00:55:02,245

Not too little like lemon though.

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00:55:02,325 --> 00:55:05,295

I'm down with a lemon, but not a lot

of sugar, but well, having lived in new

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00:55:05,295 --> 00:55:09,175

Orleans for a number of years, they go

crazy on the sugar and I don't like it.

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1249

00:55:09,185 --> 00:55:09,375

That's

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00:55:10,785 --> 00:55:11,855

Byron Bowers: Yes, yes,

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00:55:12,245 --> 00:55:12,765

Marc Preston: I love it.

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00:55:13,115 --> 00:55:15,635

The next question I got for you

going back to when you're a kid,

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1253

00:55:15,635 --> 00:55:18,065

who was your first celebrity crush?

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00:55:18,425 --> 00:55:19,455

Byron Bowers: That's crazy.

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1255

00:55:19,505 --> 00:55:23,485

Um, I want to say big time was Neil Long.

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00:55:24,225 --> 00:55:24,555

Marc Preston: Uh huh.

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1257

00:55:24,575 --> 00:55:25,065

Okay.

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00:55:25,535 --> 00:55:29,285

Byron Bowers: Was somebody I really

remember like, Oh man, she's like bad.

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1259

00:55:29,305 --> 00:55:30,205

She's beautiful.

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00:55:31,485 --> 00:55:34,485

Uh, and it was this chick in this movie.

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00:55:35,865 --> 00:55:39,725

I remember, and that was probably

more lust was like weird science.

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00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:42,070

Marc Preston: Oh, I was a Kelly LeBrock.

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00:55:42,130 --> 00:55:43,180

Byron Bowers: I don't remember the name.

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1264

00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:43,550

Yeah.

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00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,080

It was just a look for then, you know,

cause he was stacked, you know, but

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1266

00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,640

then as far as like a crush, like,

Ooh, I could marry somebody like

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00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,170

this is like near long, you know,

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00:55:54,270 --> 00:55:54,760

Marc Preston: near long.

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00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:59,010

Well, she was, when she had a lot of

the nineties, like teen teen type stuff.

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00:55:59,010 --> 00:55:59,290

Yeah.

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00:55:59,290 --> 00:56:01,310

Byron Bowers: It was very important

because then, you know, in the

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00:56:01,310 --> 00:56:05,490

nineties for, for, and I watched

a lot of black TV, cause I didn't,

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00:56:05,530 --> 00:56:06,750

that's what I knew, you know?

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00:56:07,330 --> 00:56:13,315

Um, I think, uh, A lot of the women

look like ordinary cute girls.

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00:56:14,125 --> 00:56:17,115

It wasn't like, oh, this is the

highest chick out of our league.

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00:56:17,135 --> 00:56:19,505

It's like, no, I go to

school with that girl.

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00:56:20,025 --> 00:56:23,865

You know, so I was always over

this chick that Prince used to play

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with I think vanity or something.

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Marc Preston: Oh vanity.

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00:56:26,915 --> 00:56:27,505

Yeah Yeah, but that's

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00:56:27,505 --> 00:56:29,925

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