Welcome to The Story & Craft Podcast!
April 12, 2022

Chris Baker | Creating Your Own Story

Chris Baker | Creating Your Own Story

This week on The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with actor and writer, Chris Baker.  He has made a name for himself on YouTube.  Now, he’s beginning to break out with his first feature length film, The Estate.  He wrote and starred in this film, which is currently available on Hulu.  We talk about making movies, inspiration and how to carve out your own creative space.  Chris was a great guest and I’m happy to share his story.

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

0:00:02 - Interview With Filmmaker Chris Baker

0:04:13 - Web Series Success and Controversial Removal

0:13:38 - LGBTQ+ Representation in Young Adult Entertainment

0:17:51 - Influential Actors and Pleasing Audiences

0:24:44 - Changing Landscape of Film and Streaming

0:31:02 - Streaming's Impact on Movie Viewing

0:38:38 - Resurgence of Adult-Oriented Movies

0:50:05 - Seven Questions

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Transcript
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Chris Baker: The amount of entertainment that I derived



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Chris Baker: from the theatrical experience.



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Chris Baker: It was like going to church for me.



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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.



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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.



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Marc Preston: Well, welcome back.



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Marc Preston: How are you?



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Marc Preston: I'm Marc Preston and this is Story and



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Marc Preston: Craft, and I am so jazzed that you are back.



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Marc Preston: If you've checked out previous episodes,



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Marc Preston: thank you for returning and checking out



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Marc Preston: another episode, and if you are new to the



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Marc Preston: show, welcome.



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Marc Preston: I promise I won't stink up the joint.



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Marc Preston: You'll enjoy yourself, I promise.



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Marc Preston: And I tell you, this week we have a great



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Marc Preston: episode a guy named Chris Baker you may



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Marc Preston: know him from YouTube or maybe not, but he



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Marc Preston: has got his very first feature length film



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Marc Preston: It's on Hulu.



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Marc Preston: It's called the Estate and he wrote it and



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Marc Preston: he is the lead actor in it and it's a



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Marc Preston: really cool conversation about movie making



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Marc Preston: and how to kind of create your own thing



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Marc Preston: And anybody who's an actor or a creative,



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Marc Preston: you know we're living in a very cool era



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Marc Preston: where you can create your thing and get it



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Marc Preston: into the world.



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Marc Preston: The inspiration's right here, with a guy



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Marc Preston: who got it done Again, chris Baker.



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Marc Preston: So glad to have him this week and I'm



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Marc Preston: jazzed to bring him to you.



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Marc Preston: It's a great conversation and don't forget



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Marc Preston: Story and Craft podcom.



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Marc Preston: Once again, story and Craft podcom.



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Marc Preston: Check it out.



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Marc Preston: All kinds of good stuff about the show.



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Marc Preston: You can learn about me if you so desire.



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Marc Preston: Social media links, of course.



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Marc Preston: You can send me a note if you would like,



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Marc Preston: or you can also leave a voicemail.



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Marc Preston: Kind of cool, once again, story and Craft



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Marc Preston: podcom.



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Marc Preston: And please by all means subscribe like,



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Marc Preston: leave a review.



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Marc Preston: Very super cool If you do that.



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Marc Preston: High five, five stars.



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Marc Preston: Whatever else you would like to do to kind



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Marc Preston: of spread the word, tell a friend.



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Marc Preston: You know we got some cool episodes in the



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Marc Preston: library already, some very cool episodes on



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Marc Preston: the way, but this week, right now, it's



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Marc Preston: Chris Baker Day, right here on Story and



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Chris Baker: Just so you know, I am in Mammoth right now



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Chris Baker: and my husband and all of his friends at



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Chris Baker: some point will be walking not through here,



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Chris Baker: And they're like I don't think when that



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Chris Baker: I will let you know when I hear.



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Chris Baker: You'll let me know if you hear it, and then



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Chris Baker: we'll be good.



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Marc Preston: You know that makes it more interesting.



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Marc Preston: Probably hear my daughter texting me right



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Marc Preston: now, so it's like I got to put that on mute.



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Marc Preston: But, man, congratulations, by the way, on



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Marc Preston: On the film, what an accomplishment.



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Marc Preston: I mean all along the line.



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Marc Preston: So congratulations on that.



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Marc Preston: Definitely want to talk about the movie,



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Marc Preston: without a doubt.



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Marc Preston: I watched it the other night.



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Marc Preston: oh, a little mystery going on and like,



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Marc Preston: I mean, so it's, it was a lot of fun.



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Marc Preston: I will say that I had a blast.



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Marc Preston: In fact, last night I didn't, you know, I



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Marc Preston: one about you being afraid to speak with



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Marc Preston: somebody who is British because it affects



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Marc Preston: your accident, affects you.



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Marc Preston: I, I just it.



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Marc Preston: It rang so true.



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Marc Preston: There was this girl in college.



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Marc Preston: That just kind of resonated with me.



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Marc Preston: It was hilarious.



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Chris Baker: I think that's had a lot of fun with that.



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Chris Baker: I think there's a medical term for that



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Chris Baker: girl and my and me.



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Marc Preston: Sorority, I think the term but, no, but,



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Marc Preston: Seriously, though, congratulations, man.



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Marc Preston: I have to say I'm kind of getting



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Marc Preston: introduced to you, but it's a pleasure,



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Marc Preston: it's a.



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Marc Preston: It's a fun introduction because I didn't



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Marc Preston: I wanted to know more, I wanted to you know,



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Marc Preston: watch more.



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Chris Baker: So, with my web series that was called



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Chris Baker: Baker Daily, what happened there was we did



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Chris Baker: really well and it was on Funny or Die and



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Chris Baker: on YouTube and it was about this very I



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Chris Baker: played up and I wrote it myself and it was.



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Chris Baker: It was about a very inept cable news anchor



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Chris Baker: and then I think there was a whole Reddit



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Chris Baker: address and I started getting death threats



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Chris Baker: and I and my producers we were kind of



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Chris Baker: talking about it and and we thought that



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Chris Baker: take it down.



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Chris Baker: For now I would hope that it could live,



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Chris Baker: but that that is the story and that is why



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Chris Baker: currently it is not available anywhere,



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Chris Baker: because I love comedy and I and I I love



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Chris Baker: what I do.



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Chris Baker: I do love my life just a little bit.



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Marc Preston: I do like, I do like living, and that's a



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Marc Preston: sad thing about that.



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Marc Preston: You talk about a group of people, about



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Marc Preston: Constitution and country and First



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Marc Preston: Amendment right there and, and satire is is.



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Marc Preston: I think comedy is one of the ways we kind



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Marc Preston: of keep people honest in a way.



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Marc Preston: But I was curious though, with with the



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Marc Preston: A little different, most certainly, but the



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Marc Preston: thing about the through line is the you



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Marc Preston: have such a fun comedic like your timing is



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Marc Preston: just so fun to watch.



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Marc Preston: You know there's some people that is fun to



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Marc Preston: and I got a kick out of that.



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Marc Preston: But were you when you were coming up?



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Chris Baker: Yeah, I.



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Chris Baker: So I grew up basically watching Seinfeld,



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Chris Baker: of thing about those characters.



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Chris Baker: I also watched a lot and even now of Family



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Chris Baker: Guy and South Park we talk about satire or



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Chris Baker: So those TV shows are really important for



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Chris Baker: me when I was growing up, but the my first



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Chris Baker: love was always movies and the amount of



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Chris Baker: It was like going to church for me and it



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Chris Baker: truly was.



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Chris Baker: It was a religious experience, and the



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Chris Baker: longer I've been around, the longer I see



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Chris Baker: there are less and less movies where their



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Chris Baker: aim is to entertain, and I think right now



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Chris Baker: we have Marvel and we have a lot of I don't



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Chris Baker: They're like message movies that are often



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Chris Baker: independently made, that win a lot of



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Chris Baker: and they don't have that life that can live



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Chris Baker: and be aired on cable forever.



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Chris Baker: I mean the movies that I watched on HBO



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Chris Baker: when I was way too young to see.



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Chris Baker: Them were like my best friend's wedding and



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Chris Baker: the net, and there were just these movies



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Chris Baker: that I thought were just there to divert



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Chris Baker: people for two hours and just entertain you



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Chris Baker: and just transport you.



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Marc Preston: your own head?



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Marc Preston: And I think not.



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Marc Preston: I think Judd Apatow is sort of our.



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Marc Preston: He's a prince of these kind of movies.



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Marc Preston: I remember back when Chris I can't remember,



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Marc Preston: I think it's Chris also, I think it's his



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Marc Preston: name they did the American Pie and all



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Chris Baker: I remember seeing an interview back when



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Chris Baker: they oh, I loved those movies, yeah, when



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Chris Baker: I remember he was being interviewed.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, well, it's somehow like better than



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Marc Preston: others.



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Marc Preston: But he said listen, there aren't any good



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Chris Baker: Yes, Originally it was written with myself



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Chris Baker: Stuff that I did was based around the



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Chris Baker: I would not have stood in the way of that



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Chris Baker: But you know, there are no gay movie stars.



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Marc Preston: Now that's where everything is now.



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Marc Preston: It seems like they feature gay characters



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Chris Baker: Absolutely there.



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Chris Baker: There, you know, I mean there's universal



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Chris Baker: Right now is I think they already completed



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Chris Baker: It's called Bros and it's with Billy



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Chris Baker: Eichner and he starred it and Jed Apatow is



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Chris Baker: That's the first film of its kind and



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Chris Baker: Things are changing and I'm very proud that



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Chris Baker: the estate and other films like it are kind



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Marc Preston: Did you see the movie Booksmart, bonnie



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Chris Baker: I did yeah.



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Marc Preston: You know that was.



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Marc Preston: I thought that was kind of.



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Marc Preston: It was kind of well.



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Marc Preston: It was just sort of like my kids, jen and



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Marc Preston: Well now, it's just, it's just not even



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Marc Preston: It's just, it's just part of what it you



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Marc Preston: So I think naturally the offshoot is we



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Marc Preston: It's not held up as a cliche.



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Marc Preston: What would you say like in the nineties?



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Marc Preston: We overly flamboyant character, their comic



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Marc Preston: relief as opposed to experiencing what



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Marc Preston: everybody else is.



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Chris Baker: And look, I want to.



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Chris Baker: You know, I should make clear that there is



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Chris Baker: no one that makes me laugh harder than Jack,



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Chris Baker: the character on Will and Grace.



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Chris Baker: I mean that type of bitchy, horny, dumb,



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Chris Baker: Common stereotype of gay men is something



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Chris Baker: that I that will never not make me laugh,



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Chris Baker: and those stereotypes usually have some



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Chris Baker: truth to them, and so I, you know, I think



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Chris Baker: that the way that those things really



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Chris Baker: funny and they're actually entertaining,



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Chris Baker: and two, if they have a kernel of truth in



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Marc Preston: So I think that you know, there are



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Marc Preston: definitely the exception proves a rule, you



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Marc Preston: know well, as far as going back, who were



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Marc Preston: they're either characters Jack, of course,



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Marc Preston: is one but or actors you go.



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Marc Preston: They're kind of like inspiration there's



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Marc Preston: nuggets you're taking from them and you're



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Marc Preston: Something about them makes sense to you and



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Marc Preston: it's fun and you like to catch every movie



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Marc Preston: they're in.



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Marc Preston: Who was that when you were growing up?



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Chris Baker: Oh my God, so many people.



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Chris Baker: You know movie stars.



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Chris Baker: I worshiped at the altar of movie stars, I



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Chris Baker: really did.



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Chris Baker: You know Brad Pitt and Gwyneth Paltrow and



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Chris Baker: Ben Affleck and Matt Damon and Tom Cruise.



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Chris Baker: Oh my gosh, I mean you can't.



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Marc Preston: You can't look at Brad Pitt.



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Marc Preston: He got looks of Brad Pitt Never.



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Marc Preston: He's got a man crush on him.



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Marc Preston: I don't care if you get your now.



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Marc Preston: You look at him, go.



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Marc Preston: You know what once upon a time in Hollywood.



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Marc Preston: You look at him, go.



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Marc Preston: That's a dude right there.



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Marc Preston: That's, that's.



476


00:17:49,207 --> 00:17:50,971


Marc Preston: That's Hollywood, right there in a nutshell.



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00:17:50,991 --> 00:17:53,277


Chris Baker: And I, you know, and there's Julia Roberts



478


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Chris Baker: and Sandra Bullock, and you know, just



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Chris Baker: these people that I feel like were were



480


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Chris Baker: that descended from the heavens to to



481


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Chris Baker: change my life.



482


00:18:04,035 --> 00:18:06,363


Chris Baker: That were that, were that were made to, I



483


00:18:06,383 --> 00:18:06,825


Chris Baker: would follow.



484


00:18:06,965 --> 00:18:09,173


Chris Baker: I would watch any movie if there's, and I



485


00:18:09,194 --> 00:18:10,257


Chris Baker: would always be thankful.



486


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Chris Baker: And you know, I, I, julianne Moore was so



487


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Chris Baker: good, I would watch her in anything and



488


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Chris Baker: just be in awe every time.



489


00:18:17,603 --> 00:18:19,589


Chris Baker: You know anyone who was ever in Boogie



490


00:18:19,649 --> 00:18:21,874


Chris Baker: Nights or Magnolia, and, and you know



491


00:18:22,355 --> 00:18:24,840


Chris Baker: Robert De Niro too, and there are a lot,



492


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Chris Baker: but the ones that just changed the culture.



493


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Chris Baker: And also, you know, they made great films,



494


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Chris Baker: but they also kept their eye on making sure



495


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Chris Baker: that they made movies that could be



496


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Chris Baker: commercially successful so that they would



497


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Chris Baker: please and entertain an audience.



498


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Chris Baker: That was really, you know, that wasn't just



499


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Chris Baker: this pursuit of artistic pleasure just



500


00:18:49,074 --> 00:18:50,136


Chris Baker: solely for themselves.



501


00:18:50,217 --> 00:18:52,482


Chris Baker: They wanted to do that for audiences.



502


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Chris Baker: It was what they're calling was.



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Marc Preston: As a writer and of course you did the



504


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Marc Preston: screenplay are you sort of like the school



505


00:19:01,532 --> 00:19:03,962


Marc Preston: thought that if they don't get all the



506


00:19:04,002 --> 00:19:05,046


Marc Preston: words, just quite right?



507


00:19:05,107 --> 00:19:06,954


Marc Preston: Is it like I really want this to be, you



508


00:19:06,975 --> 00:19:09,180


Marc Preston: know, kind of locked in, kind of like I'm



509


00:19:09,220 --> 00:19:10,383


Marc Preston: brain farting right now again?



510


00:19:10,644 --> 00:19:13,090


Marc Preston: But he wrote the West Wing.



511


00:19:14,313 --> 00:19:17,661


Marc Preston: Oh, aaron Sorkin, yeah, he's very, all the



512


00:19:17,721 --> 00:19:19,625


Marc Preston: words are very measured and carry weight



513


00:19:19,686 --> 00:19:20,127


Marc Preston: and you got.



514


00:19:20,167 --> 00:19:21,818


Marc Preston: He wants them to be all in there.



515


00:19:22,219 --> 00:19:23,562


Marc Preston: Are you like more like that or are you more



516


00:19:23,582 --> 00:19:25,347


Marc Preston: like, hey, I'm into improvisation.



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00:19:27,156 --> 00:19:28,900


Chris Baker: I was into both, I think, our.



518


00:19:29,381 --> 00:19:30,845


Chris Baker: You know the director of the film, james



519


00:19:30,885 --> 00:19:33,138


Chris Baker: Kappner, who you know I've known for years,



520


00:19:33,239 --> 00:19:35,546


Chris Baker: who I collaborated with for so long.



521


00:19:35,566 --> 00:19:39,357


Chris Baker: I think we both went into this this feeling



522


00:19:39,577 --> 00:19:41,601


Chris Baker: so lucky with the cast that we had.



523


00:19:42,884 --> 00:19:44,928


Chris Baker: You know, eric Roberts plays my father, and



524


00:19:45,369 --> 00:19:49,060


Chris Baker: you know Eliza Koop from Happy Endings and



525


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Chris Baker: on this new show that's on Fox right now



526


00:19:51,065 --> 00:19:53,818


Chris Baker: called Pivoting, she plays my stepmother,



527


00:19:54,179 --> 00:19:56,604


Chris Baker: and Greg Finley, who's, you know, been on



528


00:19:56,724 --> 00:19:59,196


Chris Baker: all of these hunky TV shows for years,



529


00:19:59,416 --> 00:20:04,285


Chris Baker: played the hitman that we hire, and Heather



530


00:20:04,305 --> 00:20:06,309


Chris Baker: Madarato, who is, you know, part of the



531


00:20:06,475 --> 00:20:09,523


Chris Baker: this great indie tradition of filmmaking.



532


00:20:09,943 --> 00:20:11,627


Chris Baker: We were just so lucky to have these people



533


00:20:11,708 --> 00:20:12,976


Chris Baker: that it was.



534


00:20:13,117 --> 00:20:14,923


Chris Baker: We sort of, without even saying anything,



535


00:20:14,963 --> 00:20:15,745


Chris Baker: left it up to them.



536


00:20:16,287 --> 00:20:19,817


Chris Baker: So if there were things in the moment that



537


00:20:19,998 --> 00:20:23,208


Chris Baker: Eliza and I were playing off of each other,



538


00:20:23,389 --> 00:20:25,637


Chris Baker: by the way, that relationship you all have.



539


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Marc Preston: I think watching this it's worth watching



540


00:20:27,354 --> 00:20:29,111


Marc Preston: just to see the relationship with the two



541


00:20:29,173 --> 00:20:29,456


Marc Preston: of you.



542


00:20:29,496 --> 00:20:30,158


Marc Preston: Just, it's just.



543


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Marc Preston: It is a, it's a, it's a well executed hot



544


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Marc Preston: mess.



545


00:20:34,293 --> 00:20:35,176


Marc Preston: So we'll say that that is.



546


00:20:35,577 --> 00:20:37,081


Marc Preston: You're all biased.



547


00:20:37,242 --> 00:20:41,012


Chris Baker: Yeah, I'm biased, obviously, but the we



548


00:20:41,092 --> 00:20:42,897


Chris Baker: knew that we had something really special,



549


00:20:42,978 --> 00:20:45,546


Chris Baker: comedically, when we would have to stop



550


00:20:45,686 --> 00:20:48,355


Chris Baker: rolling the camera because the director of



551


00:20:48,415 --> 00:20:51,801


Chris Baker: photography was laughing so hard that he



552


00:20:51,842 --> 00:20:53,004


Chris Baker: was shaking the camera.



553


00:20:54,867 --> 00:20:56,979


Chris Baker: You know the fact that that Eliza and I



554


00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,787


Chris Baker: just really we didn't know each other



555


00:20:58,828 --> 00:21:00,495


Chris Baker: before this and we, you know, we met about



556


00:21:00,615 --> 00:21:01,057


Chris Baker: the roles.



557


00:21:01,077 --> 00:21:02,403


Chris Baker: She didn't audition, you know, we were just



558


00:21:02,845 --> 00:21:04,653


Chris Baker: talking about the role with her and the



559


00:21:04,713 --> 00:21:06,920


Chris Baker: chemistry that we had within literally 10



560


00:21:06,980 --> 00:21:08,644


Chris Baker: seconds of her sitting down was just so



561


00:21:08,725 --> 00:21:11,799


Chris Baker: plainly evident that people were like this



562


00:21:11,860 --> 00:21:12,180


Chris Baker: is it?



563


00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:15,089


Chris Baker: The role is hers and and she owned it.



564


00:21:15,149 --> 00:21:16,032


Chris Baker: So back to your question.



565


00:21:16,155 --> 00:21:18,541


Chris Baker: I, you know it depended on the person and I



566


00:21:18,621 --> 00:21:21,308


Chris Baker: think what we wanted was to make sure that



567


00:21:21,328 --> 00:21:24,142


Chris Baker: the information in each scene came out,



568


00:21:24,182 --> 00:21:27,551


Chris Baker: because it is structured as a mystery and



569


00:21:27,671 --> 00:21:30,984


Chris Baker: you want each piece to guide the audience



570


00:21:31,044 --> 00:21:31,366


Chris Baker: along.



571


00:21:31,466 --> 00:21:32,953


Chris Baker: But if there's no, we'll say there is.



572


00:21:32,993 --> 00:21:33,395


Marc Preston: There's a lot of.



573


00:21:33,475 --> 00:21:35,024


Marc Preston: There's at least a good handful of times



574


00:21:35,064 --> 00:21:36,472


Marc Preston: I'm like I don't know where this is, though.



575


00:21:36,493 --> 00:21:37,692


Marc Preston: I didn't know what's going there.



576


00:21:37,810 --> 00:21:39,756


Marc Preston: And how often do you watch a movie?



577


00:21:39,873 --> 00:21:41,517


Marc Preston: Now You're like you can just see the



578


00:21:41,555 --> 00:21:42,170


Marc Preston: trailer and go.



579


00:21:42,277 --> 00:21:43,949


Marc Preston: I know basically what's going to happen in



580


00:21:44,056 --> 00:21:44,504


Marc Preston: this movie.



581


00:21:44,611 --> 00:21:46,290


Marc Preston: You know a lot of romantic comedies like



582


00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:46,430


Marc Preston: this.



583


00:21:46,751 --> 00:21:48,033


Marc Preston: If somebody watches this, they say, oh, I



584


00:21:48,054 --> 00:21:48,595


Marc Preston: know where this is going.



585


00:21:48,615 --> 00:21:49,157


Marc Preston: They're wrong.



586


00:21:49,357 --> 00:21:50,663


Marc Preston: You know which is kind of fun.



587


00:21:50,723 --> 00:21:53,172


Marc Preston: You know to to be taken on, that, like I



588


00:21:53,213 --> 00:21:54,817


Marc Preston: said at the outset, you're kind of going to



589


00:21:54,878 --> 00:21:55,900


Marc Preston: ride in this movie.



590


00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,704


Chris Baker: So not easy to do, you know.



591


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Chris Baker: I think that we we really made sure and and



592


00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:06,747


Chris Baker: it took, it took a while to kind of it took



593


00:22:06,788 --> 00:22:09,878


Chris Baker: a while to find that magic where we were



594


00:22:10,138 --> 00:22:13,985


Chris Baker: not kind of like showing so much exposition



595


00:22:14,105 --> 00:22:17,096


Chris Baker: and and you know, detailing so much for,



596


00:22:17,237 --> 00:22:18,684


Chris Baker: for for the audience, that we were just



597


00:22:18,704 --> 00:22:20,493


Chris Baker: kind of, you know, talking at them rather



598


00:22:20,513 --> 00:22:22,520


Chris Baker: than making them feel where this story was



599


00:22:22,580 --> 00:22:25,228


Chris Baker: going and feel where the actors and the



600


00:22:25,308 --> 00:22:28,056


Chris Baker: characters would show on screen that they



601


00:22:28,176 --> 00:22:29,941


Chris Baker: had to make these decisions, that they had



602


00:22:29,961 --> 00:22:31,204


Chris Baker: to go to those places.



603


00:22:32,407 --> 00:22:34,224


Marc Preston: Yeah, you know, anytime Eric Roberts shows



604


00:22:34,285 --> 00:22:35,733


Marc Preston: up in a movie, it's just like you know it's



605


00:22:35,753 --> 00:22:36,880


Marc Preston: going to get good in a moment, not that it



606


00:22:36,925 --> 00:22:38,067


Marc Preston: wasn't good already, it's just.



607


00:22:38,112 --> 00:22:39,830


Marc Preston: You know, eric Roberts brings kind of his



608


00:22:39,931 --> 00:22:42,341


Marc Preston: own kind of special sauce to things.



609


00:22:42,401 --> 00:22:44,772


Marc Preston: You know, which was you know and I'm so.



610


00:22:44,792 --> 00:22:46,397


Marc Preston: There are things I want to discuss like but



611


00:22:46,438 --> 00:22:47,661


Marc Preston: if I do it'll be a spoiler.



612


00:22:47,781 --> 00:22:48,503


Marc Preston: Don't want to do that.



613


00:22:48,644 --> 00:22:52,525


Marc Preston: But when you, as far as the inspiration for



614


00:22:52,565 --> 00:22:54,192


Marc Preston: this was there, you talked about the like



615


00:22:54,212 --> 00:22:56,017


Marc Preston: cruel intentions and things like that had,



616


00:22:56,238 --> 00:22:57,782


Marc Preston: had you sat down and thought I want to make



617


00:22:57,822 --> 00:23:01,237


Marc Preston: a movie in that tone, in that vibe, or were



618


00:23:01,257 --> 00:23:02,343


Marc Preston: you just kind of like blank slate?



619


00:23:02,363 --> 00:23:04,373


Marc Preston: Or what inspired you to kind of sit down in



620


00:23:04,393 --> 00:23:06,178


Marc Preston: front of your editor or your your word



621


00:23:06,198 --> 00:23:07,642


Marc Preston: processor and start typing this up?



622


00:23:09,426 --> 00:23:12,052


Chris Baker: I had.



623


00:23:12,914 --> 00:23:13,475


Chris Baker: That's a good question.



624


00:23:14,317 --> 00:23:17,264


Chris Baker: The best way I can answer it is this I



625


00:23:17,344 --> 00:23:20,611


Chris Baker: thought that something was lost in movies



626


00:23:21,132 --> 00:23:24,259


Chris Baker: and I wanted to create a movie that I wish



627


00:23:24,439 --> 00:23:26,923


Chris Baker: existed and it was.



628


00:23:27,044 --> 00:23:29,849


Chris Baker: It would be something that was campy and



629


00:23:30,009 --> 00:23:34,303


Chris Baker: fun, but kind of dirty and sexy and a



630


00:23:34,363 --> 00:23:37,671


Chris Baker: little perverted and naughty and violent



631


00:23:37,891 --> 00:23:41,275


Chris Baker: and all of these sort of things that I felt



632


00:23:41,541 --> 00:23:45,225


Chris Baker: like really weren't a part of movies very



633


00:23:45,491 --> 00:23:46,358


Chris Baker: often anymore.



634


00:23:46,624 --> 00:23:50,218


Chris Baker: And the best way that I thought that could



635


00:23:50,459 --> 00:23:52,183


Chris Baker: make these characters do all of these



636


00:23:52,243 --> 00:23:54,736


Chris Baker: horrible things is money, because when you



637


00:23:54,756 --> 00:23:57,462


Chris Baker: look at our society today, people are less



638


00:23:57,502 --> 00:23:59,507


Chris Baker: and less religious, people are more



639


00:23:59,587 --> 00:24:01,906


Chris Baker: politically, you know, identified, but



640


00:24:01,970 --> 00:24:03,775


Chris Baker: after my experience with the web series, I



641


00:24:03,838 --> 00:24:05,193


Chris Baker: definitely didn't want to touch anything



642


00:24:05,214 --> 00:24:05,656


Chris Baker: political.



643


00:24:06,259 --> 00:24:07,647


Marc Preston: After after that, it's probably like you're



644


00:24:07,667 --> 00:24:09,709


Marc Preston: staying not even in the same zip code of



645


00:24:09,943 --> 00:24:10,224


Marc Preston: anything.



646


00:24:10,457 --> 00:24:12,753


Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah.



647


00:24:12,986 --> 00:24:16,814


Chris Baker: So so the thing that people seem to worship,



648


00:24:17,048 --> 00:24:19,257


Chris Baker: no matter who they are, no matter where



649


00:24:19,277 --> 00:24:20,621


Chris Baker: they're from, no matter what their gender



650


00:24:20,681 --> 00:24:23,237


Chris Baker: identity is, no matter what their sexuality



651


00:24:23,337 --> 00:24:25,561


Chris Baker: is, no matter what their race is, our



652


00:24:25,621 --> 00:24:29,869


Chris Baker: classes is money White people, black people,



653


00:24:30,016 --> 00:24:31,482


Chris Baker: rich people, poor people.



654


00:24:31,542 --> 00:24:32,948


Marc Preston: Okay, Well, you also touched on the whole



655


00:24:32,989 --> 00:24:33,752


Marc Preston: status thing.



656


00:24:33,893 --> 00:24:36,083


Marc Preston: Yeah, again, it's not a family movie, but I



657


00:24:36,124 --> 00:24:37,591


Marc Preston: mean, come on, this is a pure like date



658


00:24:37,631 --> 00:24:39,538


Marc Preston: night bottle of wine, just kick back.



659


00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:41,665


Marc Preston: And I mean it's on Hulu, it's easily



660


00:24:41,705 --> 00:24:42,648


Marc Preston: accessible, of course.



661


00:24:44,353 --> 00:24:46,379


Marc Preston: But when you were you coming, did you come



662


00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,871


Marc Preston: from a family that was creatively inclined,



663


00:24:50,031 --> 00:24:51,737


Marc Preston: or are you kind of the first one in the



664


00:24:51,777 --> 00:24:53,240


Marc Preston: family to kind of jump into this pool?



665


00:24:54,563 --> 00:24:56,027


Chris Baker: The very, very first one.



666


00:24:56,307 --> 00:25:03,043


Chris Baker: Yeah, I was a little good student and I



667


00:25:03,083 --> 00:25:06,631


Chris Baker: worked really hard in school and I ended up



668


00:25:06,651 --> 00:25:08,615


Chris Baker: going to great college and I was, but I was



669


00:25:08,705 --> 00:25:11,305


Chris Baker: studying film while I was there and so I



670


00:25:11,394 --> 00:25:13,376


Chris Baker: think it was always a foregone conclusion



671


00:25:13,465 --> 00:25:15,493


Chris Baker: that I would be doing this.



672


00:25:15,732 --> 00:25:19,287


Chris Baker: But it it took these different turns, but



673


00:25:19,527 --> 00:25:23,721


Chris Baker: my family was always very appreciative of



674


00:25:23,861 --> 00:25:27,732


Chris Baker: the arts and loved loved, so you had the



675


00:25:27,773 --> 00:25:28,033


Chris Baker: support.



676


00:25:28,053 --> 00:25:29,781


Marc Preston: In other words, this was not like what are



677


00:25:29,801 --> 00:25:30,283


Marc Preston: you doing?



678


00:25:30,324 --> 00:25:31,791


Marc Preston: Yeah, choose a more sensible gig.



679


00:25:31,811 --> 00:25:32,314


Marc Preston: What are you doing?



680


00:25:32,334 --> 00:25:34,141


Marc Preston: They were, they were getting behind you.



681


00:25:34,884 --> 00:25:36,732


Chris Baker: No, yeah, To know me is to know that there



682


00:25:36,752 --> 00:25:37,335


Chris Baker: was no other path for me.



683


00:25:38,217 --> 00:25:42,608


Chris Baker: So I think my parents and my older sister,



684


00:25:42,648 --> 00:25:44,954


Chris Baker: they looked at me and they're like this is



685


00:25:44,974 --> 00:25:45,015


Chris Baker: it?



686


00:25:45,035 --> 00:25:48,987


Chris Baker: He's not going to flip the script and go to



687


00:25:49,028 --> 00:25:51,014


Chris Baker: dental school, it's just not in the cards.



688


00:25:51,074 --> 00:25:53,704


Chris Baker: So if he's going to do this, then we just



689


00:25:53,744 --> 00:25:55,631


Chris Baker: really wish him the best.



690


00:25:55,651 --> 00:25:58,159


Chris Baker: They had no idea how to help me and I moved



691


00:25:58,199 --> 00:26:00,465


Chris Baker: here with no connections or to LA with no



692


00:26:00,866 --> 00:26:03,654


Chris Baker: like anything in my wheelhouse that could



693


00:26:03,694 --> 00:26:03,875


Chris Baker: help me.



694


00:26:04,658 --> 00:26:05,943


Marc Preston: Where are you from originally, though?



695


00:26:06,786 --> 00:26:07,308


Chris Baker: New York City.



696


00:26:07,790 --> 00:26:08,974


Marc Preston: Oh, okay, Well, that's still.



697


00:26:09,697 --> 00:26:11,823


Marc Preston: You're not coming from Topeka Kansas.



698


00:26:11,843 --> 00:26:14,090


Chris Baker: No, no, no, it was a long long stage and



699


00:26:14,110 --> 00:26:17,441


Chris Baker: sort of musical theater type people, which



700


00:26:17,702 --> 00:26:20,973


Chris Baker: was not my bag, Even though I'm gay, I



701


00:26:21,013 --> 00:26:21,314


Chris Baker: don't know why.



702


00:26:21,334 --> 00:26:23,661


Chris Baker: Musical theater just I can appreciate it,



703


00:26:23,701 --> 00:26:25,788


Chris Baker: but it's not something that you know just



704


00:26:26,369 --> 00:26:28,917


Chris Baker: works for me, it was always just movies.



705


00:26:29,458 --> 00:26:33,748


Chris Baker: So the idea that I would start from scratch



706


00:26:34,590 --> 00:26:37,356


Chris Baker: happened with my first opportunity, which



707


00:26:37,397 --> 00:26:41,088


Chris Baker: was reading scripts and watching films that



708


00:26:41,128 --> 00:26:43,315


Chris Baker: didn't have distribution yet, as an intern



709


00:26:43,716 --> 00:26:47,188


Chris Baker: for the Weinstein Company, which was quite



710


00:26:47,228 --> 00:26:48,412


Chris Baker: an eye-opening experience.



711


00:26:48,432 --> 00:26:51,579


Marc Preston: Oh, I'm sure, at many, many levels yeah.



712


00:26:53,001 --> 00:26:56,327


Chris Baker: Yeah, and I did retail for years and in



713


00:26:56,868 --> 00:26:58,777


Chris Baker: that in of itself was sort of a performance



714


00:26:59,739 --> 00:27:01,062


Chris Baker: for a first person.



715


00:27:01,102 --> 00:27:02,545


Marc Preston: That's my 16-year-old daughter.



716


00:27:02,565 --> 00:27:05,218


Marc Preston: Whenever I go to eat, she's seems enamored



717


00:27:05,278 --> 00:27:06,825


Marc Preston: by working at a restaurant.



718


00:27:06,865 --> 00:27:08,472


Marc Preston: I'm like you know, do what you want.



719


00:27:08,733 --> 00:27:10,339


Marc Preston: I think everyone should work in the service



720


00:27:10,399 --> 00:27:13,069


Marc Preston: industry or retail, at least once you know



721


00:27:13,752 --> 00:27:14,454


Marc Preston: 100%.



722


00:27:14,856 --> 00:27:16,864


Marc Preston: What do you think about the transition to



723


00:27:18,471 --> 00:27:19,395


Marc Preston: people watching more at home?



724


00:27:19,535 --> 00:27:20,799


Marc Preston: Naturally over the last couple of years



725


00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:21,040


Marc Preston: that's.



726


00:27:21,642 --> 00:27:23,046


Marc Preston: I mean, that's got to be where it's at, but



727


00:27:24,335 --> 00:27:24,797


Marc Preston: used to be.



728


00:27:24,877 --> 00:27:25,839


Marc Preston: If you were a TV actor.



729


00:27:25,859 --> 00:27:26,641


Marc Preston: You're a TV actor.



730


00:27:26,842 --> 00:27:28,706


Marc Preston: You're not crossing over in the film.



731


00:27:28,746 --> 00:27:30,580


Marc Preston: Back in the area you're talking about,



732


00:27:31,123 --> 00:27:32,368


Marc Preston: you'd rarely see that happen.



733


00:27:32,429 --> 00:27:33,433


Marc Preston: Now nobody cares.



734


00:27:33,533 --> 00:27:35,801


Marc Preston: You're going film TV and the blur is the



735


00:27:35,861 --> 00:27:37,547


Marc Preston: lines of what TV is anymore.



736


00:27:39,072 --> 00:27:40,656


Marc Preston: What do you think about that kind of change



737


00:27:40,717 --> 00:27:43,143


Marc Preston: and things being consumable at home without



738


00:27:43,163 --> 00:27:43,905


Marc Preston: having to go to the theater?



739


00:27:43,986 --> 00:27:46,658


Marc Preston: Or do you miss the big releases on a big



740


00:27:46,698 --> 00:27:47,018


Marc Preston: screen?



741


00:27:49,302 --> 00:27:50,784


Chris Baker: It's a complicated question.



742


00:27:52,447 --> 00:27:54,090


Chris Baker: I'm afraid it has a complicated answer.



743


00:27:54,255 --> 00:27:57,243


Chris Baker: I think change like this for this industry



744


00:27:57,303 --> 00:27:58,366


Chris Baker: is neither good nor bad.



745


00:27:58,406 --> 00:27:58,947


Chris Baker: It just is.



746


00:28:00,756 --> 00:28:02,481


Chris Baker: The most important thing is that people are



747


00:28:02,522 --> 00:28:02,903


Chris Baker: watching.



748


00:28:03,485 --> 00:28:08,078


Chris Baker: I do think that movies suffered and because



749


00:28:08,499 --> 00:28:11,805


Chris Baker: people, in my opinion, were burned over and



750


00:28:11,985 --> 00:28:15,937


Chris Baker: over and over and over again, paying single



751


00:28:15,997 --> 00:28:18,728


Chris Baker: tickets to watch a film, either in the



752


00:28:18,768 --> 00:28:19,772


Chris Baker: theater or on demand.



753


00:28:19,792 --> 00:28:20,575


Marc Preston: It's kind of a sell-out.



754


00:28:20,635 --> 00:28:22,380


Marc Preston: It's kind of good You're buying CDs back in



755


00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,265


Marc Preston: the day, spending $25 on a CD.



756


00:28:24,285 --> 00:28:25,187


Marc Preston: Only one song is good.



757


00:28:25,415 --> 00:28:26,057


Marc Preston: Yeah, that feeling.



758


00:28:26,077 --> 00:28:27,782


Chris Baker: Yeah absolutely.



759


00:28:29,747 --> 00:28:32,474


Chris Baker: In my opinion, it wasn't just the ease and



760


00:28:32,494 --> 00:28:35,560


Chris Baker: the streaming giants, the tech giants



761


00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:39,027


Chris Baker: trying to squeeze out the theatrical



762


00:28:39,067 --> 00:28:39,468


Chris Baker: experience.



763


00:28:39,508 --> 00:28:44,482


Chris Baker: I also think that the public soured on the



764


00:28:44,522 --> 00:28:46,866


Chris Baker: movies because the movies were not as



765


00:28:46,926 --> 00:28:49,656


Chris Baker: entertaining as they were before, and the



766


00:28:49,696 --> 00:28:53,043


Chris Baker: movies that are really there with the huge



767


00:28:53,104 --> 00:28:55,449


Chris Baker: budgets, that are there to entertain solely,



768


00:28:55,635 --> 00:28:59,026


Chris Baker: are the ones that are doing the best now.



769


00:29:00,210 --> 00:29:01,594


Marc Preston: Would you say it's more of the safe choices



770


00:29:01,614 --> 00:29:05,582


Marc Preston: they're taking the safe way out.



771


00:29:05,603 --> 00:29:07,366


Chris Baker: Yes, and the family films where it's a



772


00:29:07,426 --> 00:29:10,496


Chris Baker: whole outing for the whole family, that



773


00:29:10,516 --> 00:29:12,802


Chris Baker: makes a lot of sense, the four quadrant



774


00:29:12,942 --> 00:29:13,062


Chris Baker: ones.



775


00:29:13,143 --> 00:29:15,047


Chris Baker: But the movies that had smaller audiences,



776


00:29:15,996 --> 00:29:19,244


Chris Baker: even before COVID, were finding their



777


00:29:19,405 --> 00:29:21,932


Chris Baker: audiences when they arrived on a streamer,



778


00:29:22,353 --> 00:29:24,661


Chris Baker: not when they were released day in date on



779


00:29:24,681 --> 00:29:27,792


Chris Baker: demand in theaters or once they won awards.



780


00:29:27,832 --> 00:29:29,537


Chris Baker: It was always when they were on a streamer



781


00:29:29,577 --> 00:29:30,700


Chris Baker: people were scrolling through.



782


00:29:31,121 --> 00:29:32,505


Marc Preston: So you think kind of the COVID maybe



783


00:29:32,585 --> 00:29:34,741


Marc Preston: changed, kind of accelerated something that



784


00:29:34,781 --> 00:29:36,609


Marc Preston: was already in play, do you think?



785


00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:38,957


Chris Baker: people were moving that direction anyway.



786


00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:42,385


Chris Baker: Yes, there's no doubt, and I also think



787


00:29:42,525 --> 00:29:46,735


Chris Baker: that if you're going to have everything



788


00:29:46,915 --> 00:29:51,605


Chris Baker: available for everyone forever, there is a



789


00:29:51,665 --> 00:29:55,494


Chris Baker: lot of older stuff that many people haven't



790


00:29:55,554 --> 00:29:55,814


Chris Baker: seen.



791


00:29:55,895 --> 00:29:59,142


Chris Baker: Still that can be better than what's



792


00:29:59,262 --> 00:30:00,846


Chris Baker: currently available now.



793


00:30:01,408 --> 00:30:05,878


Chris Baker: So when you're at a theater, you see the



794


00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:08,947


Chris Baker: marquee and they're like five names, and so



795


00:30:09,388 --> 00:30:12,155


Chris Baker: more or less in that area where the theater



796


00:30:12,355 --> 00:30:15,521


Chris Baker: is serving, the public is sort of choosing



797


00:30:15,541 --> 00:30:16,663


Chris Baker: between those five movies.



798


00:30:17,685 --> 00:30:23,642


Chris Baker: When you're on your couch, you have a



799


00:30:23,682 --> 00:30:26,709


Chris Baker: hundred different apps with thousands of



800


00:30:26,809 --> 00:30:29,194


Chris Baker: movies and thousands of TV shows to choose



801


00:30:29,215 --> 00:30:32,725


Chris Baker: from, not to mention your phone, which has



802


00:30:32,986 --> 00:30:35,654


Chris Baker: multiple social media networks and constant



803


00:30:35,694 --> 00:30:36,957


Chris Baker: video content as well.



804


00:30:37,579 --> 00:30:40,405


Chris Baker: So if someone is actually getting your



805


00:30:40,465 --> 00:30:42,229


Chris Baker: attention enough for you to click on the



806


00:30:42,269 --> 00:30:44,986


Chris Baker: thing and then you're actually watching it



807


00:30:45,066 --> 00:30:46,654


Chris Baker: long enough, all the way through in one



808


00:30:46,674 --> 00:30:49,120


Chris Baker: sitting, I mean that's a miracle in and of



809


00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,480


Chris Baker: itself.



810


00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,082


Chris Baker: It really is.



811


00:30:51,344 --> 00:30:56,661


Chris Baker: So I prefer still to this day if a movie is



812


00:30:56,741 --> 00:30:57,483


Chris Baker: worth my time.



813


00:30:57,663 --> 00:30:59,387


Chris Baker: Although it's always a gamble, let's be



814


00:30:59,467 --> 00:30:59,728


Chris Baker: honest.



815


00:31:02,356 --> 00:31:04,343


Chris Baker: If you're going to take a chance on a film,



816


00:31:05,507 --> 00:31:07,494


Chris Baker: I would rather have the phone away, I would



817


00:31:07,515 --> 00:31:09,482


Chris Baker: rather have the popcorn, and I'd either go



818


00:31:09,522 --> 00:31:12,092


Chris Baker: alone or with some friends or with my



819


00:31:12,152 --> 00:31:13,757


Chris Baker: family or something, and sit and watch it



820


00:31:14,298 --> 00:31:16,623


Chris Baker: and be enveloped by the screen and kind of



821


00:31:16,684 --> 00:31:18,588


Chris Baker: have it wash over you and sort of be



822


00:31:20,018 --> 00:31:20,419


Chris Baker: transported.



823


00:31:20,459 --> 00:31:22,823


Marc Preston: It's a strangely communal kind of a thing.



824


00:31:23,084 --> 00:31:26,897


Marc Preston: I just it's seeing movies in a theater and



825


00:31:26,937 --> 00:31:28,524


Marc Preston: I think it's Spielberg said something that



826


00:31:28,564 --> 00:31:30,894


Marc Preston: we're entering an era where the only movies



827


00:31:30,915 --> 00:31:32,082


Marc Preston: that will show up in theaters are going to



828


00:31:32,103 --> 00:31:33,230


Marc Preston: be the big blockbusters, are going to be



829


00:31:33,271 --> 00:31:34,740


Marc Preston: hanging out in theaters for a long time.



830


00:31:35,203 --> 00:31:36,430


Marc Preston: Now it's like something's in the theater.



831


00:31:36,450 --> 00:31:37,175


Marc Preston: I'm like I got to see that.



832


00:31:37,195 --> 00:31:38,619


Marc Preston: Oh, it's already out of the theater.



833


00:31:40,124 --> 00:31:42,492


Marc Preston: But I think streaming for me it's.



834


00:31:42,773 --> 00:31:44,879


Marc Preston: I like being able to find those gyms, it's



835


00:31:44,919 --> 00:31:47,046


Marc Preston: like things that I never would have found



836


00:31:47,528 --> 00:31:50,658


Marc Preston: otherwise and I think it's almost gets into



837


00:31:51,882 --> 00:31:53,809


Marc Preston: not a niche necessarily, but things that



838


00:31:53,829 --> 00:31:56,036


Marc Preston: are like I know I can watch this and I'll



839


00:31:56,076 --> 00:31:59,083


Marc Preston: really like it, and probably my kids may or



840


00:31:59,123 --> 00:32:00,967


Marc Preston: may not, or it's a little bit more of a



841


00:32:01,027 --> 00:32:03,343


Marc Preston: personal kind of a relationship because you



842


00:32:03,383 --> 00:32:05,111


Marc Preston: can access, like you said, thousands of



843


00:32:05,151 --> 00:32:05,473


Marc Preston: movies.



844


00:32:05,493 --> 00:32:07,257


Marc Preston: So if you can't find something you like,



845


00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,201


Marc Preston: maybe go make it.



846


00:32:10,544 --> 00:32:12,788


Marc Preston: But that's kind of the thing also, that you



847


00:32:12,828 --> 00:32:15,443


Marc Preston: think that what you did, which I mean again



848


00:32:15,824 --> 00:32:18,754


Marc Preston: congratulations, because getting writing



849


00:32:18,814 --> 00:32:20,298


Marc Preston: something, getting it, getting all those



850


00:32:20,338 --> 00:32:22,584


Marc Preston: little pieces to fall into place, to get



851


00:32:22,644 --> 00:32:25,197


Marc Preston: something bought, to get something out



852


00:32:25,237 --> 00:32:25,778


Marc Preston: there is.



853


00:32:26,139 --> 00:32:28,585


Marc Preston: It's not an easy task, but you represent.



854


00:32:28,645 --> 00:32:30,637


Marc Preston: To me, it represents what?



855


00:32:30,657 --> 00:32:32,124


Marc Preston: I hope more people will glean from it.



856


00:32:33,028 --> 00:32:34,074


Marc Preston: If something's not out there, you don't



857


00:32:34,094 --> 00:32:36,139


Marc Preston: think you're getting cast or you know,



858


00:32:37,101 --> 00:32:39,085


Marc Preston: whatever God there creates something on



859


00:32:39,105 --> 00:32:40,749


Marc Preston: your own, and that's that.



860


00:32:41,736 --> 00:32:43,260


Marc Preston: That's easier said than done, I know, as



861


00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:44,946


Marc Preston: I'm sure you know better than anybody, but



862


00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:46,537


Marc Preston: do you?



863


00:32:47,361 --> 00:32:49,089


Marc Preston: By the way, I'm sorry, my we have a little



864


00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:50,355


Marc Preston: audience member back here, my golden



865


00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,360


Marc Preston: retriever.



866


00:32:53,661 --> 00:32:56,206


Marc Preston: Oh, he's a sweetheart, yeah, but what do



867


00:32:56,226 --> 00:32:58,189


Marc Preston: you think about the idea of for those who



868


00:32:58,430 --> 00:33:00,020


Marc Preston: are kind of in that cycle?



869


00:33:00,603 --> 00:33:02,451


Marc Preston: You know, I've acted on camera a number of



870


00:33:02,491 --> 00:33:03,758


Marc Preston: times and I was talking with somebody the



871


00:33:03,778 --> 00:33:03,979


Marc Preston: other day.



872


00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:05,889


Marc Preston: I said I would love to do stuff on camera.



873


00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:07,738


Marc Preston: I'm just so busy doing what I'm doing I



874


00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:09,307


Marc Preston: don't have a chance to come block off three



875


00:33:09,367 --> 00:33:10,835


Marc Preston: hours that I'm a day to get to the casting



876


00:33:10,956 --> 00:33:12,844


Marc Preston: director's office, do the thing, come back,



877


00:33:12,964 --> 00:33:13,065


Marc Preston: or.



878


00:33:13,145 --> 00:33:14,973


Marc Preston: You know, he's a man and this is a pretty



879


00:33:15,013 --> 00:33:15,656


Marc Preston: successful actor.



880


00:33:15,677 --> 00:33:17,165


Marc Preston: He said, dude, everything's, everything's



881


00:33:17,225 --> 00:33:18,793


Marc Preston: being recorded, everything's being self



882


00:33:18,834 --> 00:33:19,356


Marc Preston: taped at home.



883


00:33:19,416 --> 00:33:22,482


Marc Preston: Now I was like another COVID thing that



884


00:33:22,543 --> 00:33:24,827


Marc Preston: maybe worked to the advantage of our



885


00:33:24,908 --> 00:33:25,248


Marc Preston: industry.



886


00:33:26,156 --> 00:33:27,783


Marc Preston: But for people that want to kind of get out



887


00:33:27,803 --> 00:33:29,471


Marc Preston: of that cycle of just auditioning, just



888


00:33:29,611 --> 00:33:33,806


Marc Preston: asking for gigs, what would your advice be?



889


00:33:33,907 --> 00:33:35,973


Marc Preston: As far as creating, you know, as far as



890


00:33:35,993 --> 00:33:37,638


Marc Preston: somebody's got an idea, how would you



891


00:33:38,140 --> 00:33:40,065


Marc Preston: suggest they approach that if they want to



892


00:33:40,185 --> 00:33:41,429


Marc Preston: make something of their own?



893


00:33:42,657 --> 00:33:46,686


Chris Baker: I would say one you have to find people



894


00:33:46,726 --> 00:33:51,039


Chris Baker: that are going to be honest with you and



895


00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,970


Chris Baker: you have to have a really thick skin for



896


00:33:55,230 --> 00:33:56,815


Chris Baker: when you perform for the first time and



897


00:33:56,835 --> 00:33:59,266


Chris Baker: send that to someone, or if you write



898


00:33:59,286 --> 00:34:00,652


Chris Baker: something for the first time or direct



899


00:34:00,692 --> 00:34:01,937


Chris Baker: something for the first time and send it



900


00:34:02,017 --> 00:34:05,946


Chris Baker: off to someone or have a, you know, exhibit



901


00:34:05,986 --> 00:34:06,628


Chris Baker: it to people.



902


00:34:07,911 --> 00:34:10,458


Chris Baker: You have to be willing to know that this is



903


00:34:10,498 --> 00:34:11,901


Chris Baker: a journey and you're going to get better.



904


00:34:12,342 --> 00:34:15,316


Chris Baker: My first script was not good at all and



905


00:34:15,798 --> 00:34:17,662


Chris Baker: even after multiple drafts it was still



906


00:34:17,722 --> 00:34:21,111


Chris Baker: kind of middling to understand the



907


00:34:21,612 --> 00:34:24,179


Chris Baker: structure and how I wanted an audience to



908


00:34:24,299 --> 00:34:26,604


Chris Baker: feel when I was writing the estate.



909


00:34:27,727 --> 00:34:31,396


Chris Baker: That took a few years and to you know, pull



910


00:34:31,416 --> 00:34:34,101


Chris Baker: the rug out from under an audience for that



911


00:34:34,141 --> 00:34:34,822


Chris Baker: twist ending.



912


00:34:35,403 --> 00:34:39,097


Chris Baker: That kind of flips the script and sort of



913


00:34:39,177 --> 00:34:42,129


Chris Baker: informs and answers every question that



914


00:34:42,169 --> 00:34:43,354


Chris Baker: people may have had while they were



915


00:34:43,374 --> 00:34:47,281


Chris Baker: watching the film the whole time.



916


00:34:47,642 --> 00:34:50,066


Chris Baker: That takes a long time to kind of develop.



917


00:34:50,667 --> 00:34:53,158


Chris Baker: And I think that sometimes people have a



918


00:34:53,218 --> 00:34:55,706


Chris Baker: story about their childhood or about their



919


00:34:55,786 --> 00:34:58,715


Chris Baker: life experience that when they write it it



920


00:34:58,735 --> 00:35:00,479


Chris Baker: just sort of comes out fully formed.



921


00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,326


Chris Baker: And then other times people when if they're



922


00:35:03,867 --> 00:35:05,858


Chris Baker: thinking about science fiction or something



923


00:35:05,898 --> 00:35:10,827


Chris Baker: more fantastical, that those that world



924


00:35:10,887 --> 00:35:13,000


Chris Baker: building and stuff all of that takes time.



925


00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,790


Chris Baker: So I think patience is really important too.



926


00:35:16,252 --> 00:35:19,081


Chris Baker: And the other thing is, in independent film,



927


00:35:19,142 --> 00:35:21,851


Chris Baker: the number one thing I can say from all the



928


00:35:22,051 --> 00:35:25,378


Chris Baker: talks that I had with producers for the



929


00:35:25,398 --> 00:35:28,143


Chris Baker: film over the years and you know how many



930


00:35:28,204 --> 00:35:31,662


Chris Baker: calls need to be made or whatever is Make



931


00:35:31,722 --> 00:35:33,088


Chris Baker: sure you have access to money.



932


00:35:36,201 --> 00:35:37,284


Marc Preston: Easier said than done.



933


00:35:37,425 --> 00:35:41,142


Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, that's well, I mean, of course,



934


00:35:41,162 --> 00:35:42,767


Marc Preston: the other thing I think I've noticed is



935


00:35:43,369 --> 00:35:44,091


Marc Preston: just, I was right.



936


00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,005


Marc Preston: I remember reading the book.



937


00:35:45,326 --> 00:35:47,639


Marc Preston: Actually, listen to the audiobook of save



938


00:35:47,659 --> 00:35:47,900


Marc Preston: the cat.



939


00:35:48,501 --> 00:35:49,043


Marc Preston: Yeah, you have.



940


00:35:49,063 --> 00:35:50,145


Marc Preston: You read the book on screen, right?



941


00:35:50,466 --> 00:35:51,990


Marc Preston: And this idea that you gotta get rid of if



942


00:35:52,010 --> 00:35:53,902


Marc Preston: not, find it.



943


00:35:53,922 --> 00:35:56,047


Marc Preston: So just don't marry yourself so much to an



944


00:35:56,087 --> 00:35:56,227


Marc Preston: idea.



945


00:35:56,247 --> 00:35:57,430


Marc Preston: If it doesn't work, be okay, throwing it



946


00:35:57,470 --> 00:35:58,352


Marc Preston: away, starting over.



947


00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:01,829


Marc Preston: You know, I remember a story the writer was



948


00:36:01,849 --> 00:36:03,563


Marc Preston: talking about that.



949


00:36:04,401 --> 00:36:06,972


Marc Preston: Some people come to him for advice and him



950


00:36:07,173 --> 00:36:07,996


Marc Preston: break down the script.



951


00:36:08,016 --> 00:36:09,401


Marc Preston: Here's all the things that work, here's



952


00:36:09,441 --> 00:36:11,186


Marc Preston: things don't work, and it's gonna involve



953


00:36:11,226 --> 00:36:13,392


Marc Preston: basically tearing that whole script up and



954


00:36:13,762 --> 00:36:15,216


Marc Preston: Starting for and how many people are not



955


00:36:15,236 --> 00:36:15,680


Marc Preston: willing to do that.



956


00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:17,866


Marc Preston: You got to be willing to do that, you know



957


00:36:17,886 --> 00:36:19,771


Marc Preston: if you believe right, but this is the first



958


00:36:19,792 --> 00:36:21,757


Marc Preston: time you've done something as far as the



959


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Marc Preston: creative input and of this scale.



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Marc Preston: What is?



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Marc Preston: What are a couple of biggest lessons?



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Marc Preston: You learn Epiphanies like you thought it



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Marc Preston: was gonna be like this, and then you're



964


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Marc Preston: like, oh well, it didn't quite go that way.



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Marc Preston: Maybe it's a happy accent.



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Marc Preston: What did you learn in this process?



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Chris Baker: the best lesson that I learned throughout



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Chris Baker: the process, even though I was the sole



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Chris Baker: screenwriter and the you know I was the



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Chris Baker: main character in the film, is that Film



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Chris Baker: itself is the most collaborative art form



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Chris Baker: that exists.



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Chris Baker: The number of people and the number of



974


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Chris Baker: different points of view, from the gaffer



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Chris Baker: to the prop master, to all the different



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Chris Baker: one-line parts that we had in the film, to



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Chris Baker: the weather that day, you know which, I



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Chris Baker: guess, is if you believe in God is just you



979


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Chris Baker: know, all were a part of making a movie,



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Chris Baker: the movie that it ends up being, and no



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Chris Baker: matter how good Intentioned or how



982


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Chris Baker: important one person's voice or one



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Chris Baker: person's point of view is, it has to be a



984


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Chris Baker: collaboration and I think everyone has to



985


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Chris Baker: have the same goal.



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Chris Baker: So everyone on set and in the editing room



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Chris Baker: and and Everyone that worked on this film



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Chris Baker: and worked really hard for not a lot of



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00:37:47,312 --> 00:37:50,406


Chris Baker: money Everyone had the goal of entertaining



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00:37:50,506 --> 00:37:54,174


Chris Baker: an audience and creating this neon, soaked,



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Chris Baker: naughty kind of truly you know Fairy tale



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Chris Baker: nightmare.



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Marc Preston: I love that neon soaked thing, that's so.



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Marc Preston: It's like if I can encapsulate the 80s for



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Marc Preston: my kids.



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Marc Preston: It's so funny they, you know, you know that



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Marc Preston: whole, I Don't know, but neon soaked, I



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Marc Preston: gotta remember that one.



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Marc Preston: But yeah, you know, like we're watching



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Marc Preston: stranger things, the music, the vibe it was,



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Marc Preston: is a lot more like you said movies,



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Marc Preston: comedians, things like that.



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Marc Preston: That could happen.



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Marc Preston: Then, ironically, you couldn't bring a lot



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00:38:28,998 --> 00:38:29,500


Marc Preston: of that back now.



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Marc Preston: That's why this is, this is kind of a, this



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Marc Preston: is a fun ride.



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Marc Preston: That's why I think this does bring forward



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00:38:34,266 --> 00:38:36,692


Marc Preston: that kind of thing that we don't see too



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Marc Preston: much anymore.



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Marc Preston: Hopefully we'll see it more.



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Marc Preston: I mean, I'd like to see kind of resurgence



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Marc Preston: of movies that are quite frankly made for



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Marc Preston: adults, you know yes, absolutely.



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Chris Baker: I think that they're.



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Chris Baker: I I choose to believe that there's a real



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Chris Baker: hunger for it.



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Chris Baker: There are a lot of TV shows that are, you



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Chris Baker: know, a longer form Movie, honestly, but



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Chris Baker: it's like a 10 hour movie and a lot of



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00:38:59,631 --> 00:39:00,853


Chris Baker: people don't have that much time.



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Chris Baker: Or, you know, when you're making a 10 hour



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Chris Baker: film, that's that's a 10-part mini series



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Chris Baker: instead of a 90 minute feature.



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Chris Baker: Sometimes to fill all of that time you have



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Chris Baker: to add in back store Side characters and



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Chris Baker: they're sort of storylines that sometimes



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00:39:17,011 --> 00:39:19,037


Chris Baker: don't work as well as the main storyline.



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Chris Baker: And you know, building out a world doesn't



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00:39:22,588 --> 00:39:27,126


Chris Baker: necessarily have to be maximalist, to to to



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Chris Baker: in terms of time and volume.



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Chris Baker: Sometimes it is about really zeroing in and



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Chris Baker: Making something that is a sub two-hour



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00:39:35,543 --> 00:39:37,785


Chris Baker: experience for people that they can really



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00:39:37,845 --> 00:39:39,146


Chris Baker: enjoy and get in and get out.



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Marc Preston: Was this something you would do?



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Marc Preston: You're wanting to do again writing a movie,



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00:39:50,406 --> 00:39:51,790


Marc Preston: acting it, or you know it's a lot of work.



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Marc Preston: You know, are you kind of more wanting to



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Marc Preston: go through just being in someone else's



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Marc Preston: project?



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Marc Preston: If you had a Good situation like I, want my



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Marc Preston: next project to be this, this Kind of



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00:40:02,833 --> 00:40:04,278


Marc Preston: project, this kind of thing, this kind of



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00:40:04,318 --> 00:40:06,306


Marc Preston: director, you know, or co-stars, what, what?



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Marc Preston: How would you envision that?



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Chris Baker: Well, my next script is already finished.



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00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,192


Chris Baker: I actually wrote it with a Another writer



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00:40:15,292 --> 00:40:17,216


Chris Baker: who's so incredibly hilarious.



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00:40:17,236 --> 00:40:20,902


Chris Baker: His name is Jared Groty and it is a wedding



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00:40:20,983 --> 00:40:24,396


Chris Baker: themed rom-com and it is.



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00:40:25,138 --> 00:40:28,517


Chris Baker: You know, it's definitely not as dark as as



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00:40:28,557 --> 00:40:30,442


Chris Baker: the estate, but it has there.



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Chris Baker: It has a more, I think, more commercial



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00:40:32,969 --> 00:40:35,515


Chris Baker: appeal, but also still very much for adults,



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00:40:35,635 --> 00:40:39,202


Chris Baker: and it has elements of all of my favorite



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00:40:39,482 --> 00:40:41,555


Chris Baker: romantic comedies growing up and also



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00:40:41,836 --> 00:40:44,815


Chris Baker: movies like American Pie and the birdcage



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00:40:44,875 --> 00:40:49,492


Chris Baker: and just these films that just, also, like



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00:40:49,933 --> 00:40:51,816


Chris Baker: many others, really influenced me, and so



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00:40:51,977 --> 00:40:53,580


Chris Baker: it was kind of put it in the blender and



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00:40:53,940 --> 00:40:55,864


Chris Baker: that's what this romantic comedy is, and



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00:40:57,011 --> 00:40:58,214


Chris Baker: it's in development right now.



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00:40:59,016 --> 00:41:00,520


Chris Baker: I'm sure you know pretty well that in



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00:41:00,561 --> 00:41:03,356


Chris Baker: development it can mean a whole range of



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00:41:03,416 --> 00:41:05,180


Chris Baker: things, so we're so we can change it,



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00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:09,216


Chris Baker: moments notice, yeah absolutely so I'm.



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00:41:09,457 --> 00:41:14,392


Chris Baker: I'm of the headspace, that I Would love to



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00:41:14,492 --> 00:41:16,216


Chris Baker: see that project get made next.



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00:41:16,576 --> 00:41:18,019


Chris Baker: I have other projects as well that I'm



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00:41:18,059 --> 00:41:20,451


Chris Baker: working on, but that is the thing that's



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00:41:20,732 --> 00:41:23,462


Chris Baker: furthest along and that I'm so so proud of,



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Chris Baker: and I and I just as far as like a director,



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Chris Baker: who would you love to work with?



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Marc Preston: who would you love to direct you based on



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Marc Preston: the movies you've seen?



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00:41:30,127 --> 00:41:31,732


Marc Preston: And if you'd, I you know A script came in



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00:41:31,772 --> 00:41:33,155


Marc Preston: and said, hey, so, and so is attached as



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00:41:33,196 --> 00:41:33,717


Marc Preston: the director.



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Chris Baker: David Fincher.



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Chris Baker: Oh, really oh look at you go yeah, that's



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00:41:36,693 --> 00:41:37,697


Chris Baker: so you're, you're good.



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Marc Preston: That is very much down the middle of what



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00:41:39,726 --> 00:41:40,530


Marc Preston: we're talking about here.



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Chris Baker: Yeah, my number one of all time.



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00:41:44,261 --> 00:41:45,866


Chris Baker: Yeah, I love, of course, daisy.



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00:41:45,986 --> 00:41:46,909


Chris Baker: Obviously as well.



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00:41:47,049 --> 00:41:49,165


Chris Baker: I love I, you know, I love PTA, I love



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00:41:49,185 --> 00:41:51,053


Chris Baker: Tarantino, I love.



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Marc Preston: I was gonna ask you about Quentin Tarantino,



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00:41:52,435 --> 00:41:53,858


Marc Preston: because something about like his



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00:41:53,899 --> 00:41:55,502


Marc Preston: sensibility and what he does seems like it



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00:41:55,522 --> 00:41:56,304


Marc Preston: would resonate with you.



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Chris Baker: Absolutely.



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00:41:57,613 --> 00:41:59,878


Chris Baker: And you know there are people like Adrian



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00:41:59,918 --> 00:42:02,183


Chris Baker: Lyne and Brian De Palma who you know, I



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Chris Baker: know that Decades ago had such a you know



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00:42:06,057 --> 00:42:10,152


Chris Baker: with where they're Paul Verhoeven, you know.



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00:42:10,172 --> 00:42:12,619


Chris Baker: But I think there's something about David



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00:42:12,659 --> 00:42:17,016


Chris Baker: Fincher that the first film of his that I



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00:42:17,116 --> 00:42:18,621


Chris Baker: saw, I think, was the game.



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00:42:19,423 --> 00:42:22,833


Chris Baker: And then I was desperate, desperate, to see



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00:42:22,893 --> 00:42:25,118


Chris Baker: Fight Club when it was in theaters, but I



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00:42:25,178 --> 00:42:27,122


Chris Baker: was way too young and my parents just



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00:42:27,162 --> 00:42:27,964


Chris Baker: plainly refused.



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00:42:28,471 --> 00:42:33,175


Marc Preston: But I went to Sam you talk about the game,



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00:42:33,195 --> 00:42:35,281


Marc Preston: the Michael Douglas movie with the game.



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00:42:36,051 --> 00:42:37,181


Chris Baker: Douglas and Sean Penn.



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00:42:37,564 --> 00:42:38,190


Marc Preston: Oh, that was great.



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00:42:39,613 --> 00:42:41,096


Chris Baker: And just a really, really great cast and



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00:42:41,536 --> 00:42:44,121


Chris Baker: there's no one, that I think there's no



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00:42:44,161 --> 00:42:45,043


Chris Baker: American filmmaker.



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00:42:45,103 --> 00:42:49,533


Chris Baker: That I think it encapsulates what film is



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00:42:49,854 --> 00:42:54,623


Chris Baker: and what, what a person can be truthful to



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00:42:54,783 --> 00:42:57,127


Chris Baker: about themselves and with the world and how



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00:42:57,168 --> 00:42:58,450


Chris Baker: they reckon with the modern world.



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00:42:59,233 --> 00:43:03,799


Chris Baker: I think that His films a gone girl is was



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00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,347


Chris Baker: hugely influential on me when I was, when I



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00:43:06,387 --> 00:43:09,036


Chris Baker: was making, you know, the estates and how I



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00:43:09,076 --> 00:43:11,373


Chris Baker: thought about how terrible characters can



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00:43:11,433 --> 00:43:13,453


Chris Baker: treat each other and how they can



Speaker:

00:43:13,493 --> 00:43:15,099


Chris Baker: manipulate each other and the plans that



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00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:16,725


Chris Baker: they can have to sort of thwart people.



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00:43:16,765 --> 00:43:18,932


Chris Baker: But a lot of it is out of love they're, you



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00:43:18,952 --> 00:43:21,599


Chris Baker: know, seven is just, you know, just a



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00:43:21,779 --> 00:43:25,293


Chris Baker: perfectly encapsulated, tight film.



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00:43:25,653 --> 00:43:29,019


Chris Baker: You know I fight club literally taught, all



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00:43:29,260 --> 00:43:30,983


Chris Baker: you know, an entire generation of



Speaker:

00:43:31,023 --> 00:43:34,675


Chris Baker: Millennial men how to Go from being boys to



Speaker:

00:43:34,715 --> 00:43:37,023


Chris Baker: men, and I'm seeing Brad Pitt show up a



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00:43:37,063 --> 00:43:38,147


Chris Baker: couple times in the movies You're



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00:43:38,167 --> 00:43:41,177


Chris Baker: mentioning here yeah, yes, you know it's.



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00:43:41,297 --> 00:43:43,284


Marc Preston: You know it's nice to see somebody at his



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00:43:43,424 --> 00:43:45,110


Marc Preston: level that's got the goods.



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00:43:45,371 --> 00:43:46,877


Marc Preston: You know it's not just, you know, mr.



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00:43:47,198 --> 00:43:48,966


Marc Preston: You know, handsome Hollywood star.



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00:43:49,106 --> 00:43:50,050


Marc Preston: Yeah, he's got the stuff.



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00:43:50,633 --> 00:43:52,460


Chris Baker: You know, he brings it everything when I,



Speaker:

00:43:52,541 --> 00:43:55,152


Chris Baker: when I read things about him, you know, I



Speaker:

00:43:55,212 --> 00:43:57,822


Chris Baker: think at Astro up before, once upon a time



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00:43:57,862 --> 00:43:58,304


Chris Baker: in Hollywood.



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00:43:58,344 --> 00:44:00,152


Chris Baker: At Astro was the last movie, I think, that



Speaker:

00:44:00,172 --> 00:44:03,166


Chris Baker: he produced that was released in theaters.



Speaker:

00:44:03,568 --> 00:44:08,436


Chris Baker: He just Really, really, really loves movies



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00:44:09,097 --> 00:44:10,600


Chris Baker: and he respects the art form.



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00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,045


Chris Baker: And you know, de Niro is the same, and that



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00:44:14,365 --> 00:44:17,514


Chris Baker: those people, they're very few of those



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00:44:17,554 --> 00:44:17,855


Chris Baker: people.



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00:44:18,015 --> 00:44:19,318


Chris Baker: I think Russell Crowe is one of them, I



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00:44:19,358 --> 00:44:20,862


Chris Baker: think Harrison Ford was one of them for



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00:44:20,902 --> 00:44:23,154


Chris Baker: like 50 years.



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00:44:23,294 --> 00:44:25,522


Chris Baker: You know, just just hitting it out of the



Speaker:

00:44:25,562 --> 00:44:27,951


Chris Baker: park over and over and over again, the



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00:44:27,991 --> 00:44:29,757


Chris Baker: fugitive is one of my favorite films of all



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00:44:29,777 --> 00:44:30,119


Chris Baker: time.



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00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,006


Chris Baker: And you know I could go on and on and on



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00:44:32,026 --> 00:44:32,788


Chris Baker: about Harrison Ford.



Speaker:

00:44:32,829 --> 00:44:36,520


Chris Baker: My dog is named Dr Richard Kimball, soi



Speaker:

00:44:38,251 --> 00:44:39,635


Chris Baker: Think that there are, you know, there are



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00:44:39,675 --> 00:44:43,814


Chris Baker: these, there, just these people that I



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00:44:43,854 --> 00:44:45,138


Chris Baker: would, you know I would die to work with.



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00:44:45,158 --> 00:44:48,196


Marc Preston: But in terms of directors, david Fincher is,



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00:44:48,437 --> 00:44:50,889


Marc Preston: is the number one, top, top, top, top, top



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00:44:50,909 --> 00:44:52,977


Marc Preston: top but if you look at the tone of the



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00:44:53,017 --> 00:44:56,738


Marc Preston: movie of Of the estate let's say you were



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00:44:56,758 --> 00:44:58,885


Marc Preston: to craft another movie similar tone like



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00:44:58,906 --> 00:45:00,090


Marc Preston: these these movies were talking about.



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00:45:00,531 --> 00:45:03,096


Marc Preston: Yeah who would be kind of kind of a short,



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00:45:03,597 --> 00:45:05,200


Marc Preston: very, very, very short list of actors that



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00:45:05,220 --> 00:45:08,031


Marc Preston: you think would be great and fun to Kind of



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00:45:08,071 --> 00:45:11,157


Marc Preston: play with for you know a few months making



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00:45:11,177 --> 00:45:12,118


Marc Preston: a film like that.



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00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:14,162


Chris Baker: Oh, my gosh dream scenario.



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00:45:14,663 --> 00:45:20,287


Chris Baker: I, I love and halfway I think that she's a



Speaker:

00:45:20,327 --> 00:45:23,798


Chris Baker: genius and I'm just obsessed with her.



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00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:27,237


Chris Baker: I Really really love starleys.



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00:45:28,634 --> 00:45:31,845


Chris Baker: I think that on and I think that everything



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00:45:31,885 --> 00:45:33,370


Chris Baker: she does is so interesting.



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00:45:33,731 --> 00:45:36,038


Chris Baker: I I've probably seen young adults she's a



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00:45:36,078 --> 00:45:38,952


Chris Baker: great comedic actress also Movie, should it



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00:45:38,972 --> 00:45:39,333


Chris Baker: with Seth?



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00:45:39,373 --> 00:45:42,322


Marc Preston: Rogen, where she played a oh right policy.



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00:45:42,863 --> 00:45:45,069


Chris Baker: She just, it's just, her timing is just on



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00:45:45,130 --> 00:45:48,137


Chris Baker: point, you know yeah, and, and you know Mad



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00:45:48,178 --> 00:45:51,206


Chris Baker: Max and when she was in Prometheus, I mean



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00:45:51,266 --> 00:45:55,256


Chris Baker: these roles where her looks inform her



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00:45:55,336 --> 00:45:57,903


Chris Baker: characters in just I don't know if she's



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Chris Baker: just really really good at picking roles



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Chris Baker: for herself, but she just understands her



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Chris Baker: arsenal of you know Tricks and and whatever



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Chris Baker: so well I'm, I'm just continually impressed



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Chris Baker: by her and I would Really really love to



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Chris Baker: work with.



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Chris Baker: I love Mindy Kaling.



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00:46:18,246 --> 00:46:19,510


Chris Baker: I like her new show a lot.



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Chris Baker: There.



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00:46:21,595 --> 00:46:23,260


Chris Baker: There's a lot of people out there I mean I



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00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:25,385


Chris Baker: named all women but obviously Brad Pitt is



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00:46:25,425 --> 00:46:27,170


Chris Baker: just the number one of all time, because I



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00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:30,379


Chris Baker: think you know to feel like I just learned



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00:46:30,420 --> 00:46:30,941


Chris Baker: a lot from him.



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Chris Baker: I think that he's just he's lived a very



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00:46:34,403 --> 00:46:35,328


Chris Baker: interesting life but he's also made a lot



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Chris Baker: of great movies.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, he never phones it in without a doubt,



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00:46:39,980 --> 00:46:40,481


Marc Preston: and we can probably.



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00:46:40,501 --> 00:46:41,203


Marc Preston: You cannot be a David.



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00:46:41,223 --> 00:46:43,288


Chris Baker: Fincher fan, without being a Brad Pitt fan



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00:46:43,308 --> 00:46:43,649


Chris Baker: as well.



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Chris Baker: Well, yeah, as we wrap up, I'm just kind of



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00:46:47,203 --> 00:46:48,589


Chris Baker: curious, what are you watching right now,



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00:46:48,609 --> 00:46:48,930


Chris Baker: like TV wise?



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Marc Preston: What are you consuming on a that you're



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00:46:50,635 --> 00:46:52,944


Marc Preston: just like that's your entertainment?



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00:46:56,243 --> 00:46:58,180


Marc Preston: Well, in terms, of Scripted.



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Chris Baker: I saw there's a film called the Card



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00:47:02,761 --> 00:47:03,965


Chris Baker: Counter with Oscar Isaac that I really



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Chris Baker: enjoyed.



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Chris Baker: I thought it was a very strange and



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00:47:10,297 --> 00:47:14,509


Chris Baker: beautiful and kind of stoic meditation on,



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00:47:14,529 --> 00:47:16,297


Chris Baker: like the state of the modern man you know.



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Chris Baker: I thought it was fantastic.



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Chris Baker: And I saw the lost daughter with Olivia



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Chris Baker: Coleman.



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Chris Baker: That was.



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00:47:24,606 --> 00:47:25,689


Chris Baker: It was really, really good.



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00:47:25,709 --> 00:47:31,363


Chris Baker: I love, loved Yellow jackets, which I'm



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00:47:31,423 --> 00:47:32,546


Chris Baker: almost done with that.



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00:47:32,586 --> 00:47:33,569


Chris Baker: That showtime, oh, I've been meaning to



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00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:34,010


Chris Baker: catch that I've been.



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00:47:35,622 --> 00:47:38,145


Chris Baker: I just kept being Recommended it and I was



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00:47:38,333 --> 00:47:40,851


Chris Baker: finally like you know what, I'm just gonna



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00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:43,647


Chris Baker: start it and my husband and I just can't,



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00:47:43,835 --> 00:47:45,382


Chris Baker: can't, stop devouring it.



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00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:47,336


Chris Baker: Ozark is one of our favorite shows and



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00:47:47,356 --> 00:47:48,961


Chris Baker: we're very happy that that's back on.



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00:47:49,791 --> 00:47:51,895


Chris Baker: But the thing, unfortunately, that I watch



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00:47:51,915 --> 00:47:53,979


Chris Baker: the most or maybe not unfortunately anymore,



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00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:56,164


Chris Baker: but are the housewives.



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00:47:57,391 --> 00:48:00,081


Chris Baker: Vanderpump rules, summer house below deck



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00:48:00,663 --> 00:48:03,573


Chris Baker: every iteration of below deck, I am, you



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00:48:03,593 --> 00:48:04,816


Chris Baker: know, the bottom line is you need that



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00:48:04,856 --> 00:48:05,357


Chris Baker: departure.



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Marc Preston: I mean there it's a lot of stuff I don't



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Marc Preston: watch but it's.



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Marc Preston: But I have my own escapism and that's



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Marc Preston: something that we and I think that's been



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00:48:11,727 --> 00:48:13,554


Marc Preston: very clarified At least in this country, in



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00:48:13,574 --> 00:48:15,783


Marc Preston: the US, over the last handful of years of



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00:48:15,823 --> 00:48:17,450


Marc Preston: we've needed that escapism, you know.



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Chris Baker: I turn off the news.



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00:48:19,035 --> 00:48:20,800


Chris Baker: You know I'm watching a scripted show



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00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,725


Chris Baker: unless it's really really, really really



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00:48:22,785 --> 00:48:24,771


Chris Baker: good, like Ozark or Yellow Jackets, or you



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00:48:24,791 --> 00:48:26,016


Chris Baker: know I love Mara Vistown.



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00:48:26,056 --> 00:48:26,779


Chris Baker: That was fabulous.



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00:48:28,052 --> 00:48:32,257


Chris Baker: The it as a writer watching most scripted



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00:48:32,277 --> 00:48:32,999


Chris Baker: stuff in.



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00:48:33,259 --> 00:48:36,546


Chris Baker: I'm usually watching the gears shift as



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00:48:36,607 --> 00:48:39,294


Chris Baker: this as each scene plays out, and if it's



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00:48:39,374 --> 00:48:42,365


Chris Baker: not very good it kind of I can't get into



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00:48:42,425 --> 00:48:43,870


Chris Baker: it, I'm just watching the machinations.



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00:48:44,271 --> 00:48:46,776


Chris Baker: So the thing about reality television is



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00:48:46,796 --> 00:48:48,500


Chris Baker: that, even though it is sort of just as



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00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,374


Chris Baker: scripted as many other things, there's just



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00:48:51,555 --> 00:48:55,094


Chris Baker: a Strangeness about the human condition



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00:48:55,155 --> 00:48:58,400


Chris Baker: that is truly revealed by by these people



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00:48:58,460 --> 00:49:00,744


Chris Baker: that decide to open up their homes and



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00:49:00,804 --> 00:49:03,875


Chris Baker: lives to All of the world.



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00:49:04,076 --> 00:49:06,144


Chris Baker: And and it does feel when I'm watching



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00:49:06,184 --> 00:49:07,610


Chris Baker: those shows like Brain Cleaner.



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00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:10,677


Chris Baker: But I really don't have to think a lot and



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00:49:11,238 --> 00:49:13,985


Chris Baker: I can, I could just kind of check out and,



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00:49:14,871 --> 00:49:16,698


Chris Baker: yeah, just just just read into the human



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00:49:16,738 --> 00:49:18,946


Chris Baker: experience and a you know there was a show.



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00:49:18,966 --> 00:49:19,990


Marc Preston: You're probably gonna know what I'm talking



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00:49:20,010 --> 00:49:20,110


Marc Preston: about.



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00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:24,231


Marc Preston: There was a show may have been, I Don't



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00:49:24,251 --> 00:49:25,935


Marc Preston: know when I caught it it was.



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00:49:26,155 --> 00:49:28,059


Marc Preston: It was a scripted show about making



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00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:29,422


Marc Preston: something like the Bachelorette.



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00:49:29,743 --> 00:49:33,072


Marc Preston: It was a drama Unreal.



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00:49:33,554 --> 00:49:34,577


Marc Preston: I gotta be honest with that.



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00:49:34,617 --> 00:49:35,239


Marc Preston: That pulled me on.



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00:49:35,259 --> 00:49:35,600


Marc Preston: That was it.



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00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:36,994


Marc Preston: I was kind of when you really, because when



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00:49:37,014 --> 00:49:39,280


Marc Preston: you've worked on sets and you just even the



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00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,373


Marc Preston: PAs with their Walking around with a



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00:49:41,393 --> 00:49:43,201


Marc Preston: walkie-talkie, you get a sense of like



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00:49:43,542 --> 00:49:44,366


Marc Preston: twists and turns.



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00:49:44,486 --> 00:49:45,871


Marc Preston: Yeah, oh yeah, indeed, so it's.



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00:49:45,991 --> 00:49:47,796


Marc Preston: It's like you start realizing that a lot of



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00:49:47,816 --> 00:49:50,122


Marc Preston: these shows they went from calling reality.



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00:49:50,142 --> 00:49:51,173


Marc Preston: Now they're called, whether they call them



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00:49:51,233 --> 00:49:52,619


Marc Preston: unscripted shows, you know.



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00:49:53,651 --> 00:49:56,077


Marc Preston: There is still, there is still theater to



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00:49:56,117 --> 00:49:57,741


Marc Preston: them, but it's just a different kind of



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00:49:57,781 --> 00:49:58,543


Marc Preston: theater, you know.



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00:49:59,532 --> 00:50:01,440


Marc Preston: But what I'm gonna go as we wrap up, here



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00:50:01,460 --> 00:50:03,568


Marc Preston: and again, thank you for being generous



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00:50:03,609 --> 00:50:03,970


Marc Preston: with your time.



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00:50:04,351 --> 00:50:05,234


Marc Preston: I certainly appreciate it.



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00:50:05,495 --> 00:50:07,442


Marc Preston: But I got something I call it Preston's



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00:50:07,482 --> 00:50:08,145


Marc Preston: Lucky Seven.



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00:50:08,385 --> 00:50:09,630


Marc Preston: I like to ask seven questions.



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00:50:09,730 --> 00:50:10,673


Marc Preston: I like to ask questions.



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00:50:11,134 --> 00:50:12,397


Marc Preston: I used to do this when I had a syndicator



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00:50:12,417 --> 00:50:14,162


Marc Preston: radio show many moons ago on ABC.



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00:50:14,262 --> 00:50:17,821


Marc Preston: But what is your favorite comfort food?



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00:50:18,530 --> 00:50:19,394


Chris Baker: Anything chocolate.



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00:50:21,111 --> 00:50:23,016


Marc Preston: You know, my oldest daughter get along very,



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00:50:23,096 --> 00:50:23,578


Marc Preston: very well.



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00:50:23,758 --> 00:50:25,182


Marc Preston: If there's nothing in the house, chocolate



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00:50:25,210 --> 00:50:25,431


Marc Preston: there's.



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00:50:25,451 --> 00:50:27,258


Marc Preston: There's a collective sigh like oh no.



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00:50:30,112 --> 00:50:32,280


Marc Preston: Now, who are three people.



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00:50:32,361 --> 00:50:33,606


Marc Preston: If you could sit down for a cup of coffee,



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00:50:34,128 --> 00:50:34,630


Marc Preston: it could be a lot.



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00:50:34,670 --> 00:50:35,514


Marc Preston: It could be living or dead.



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00:50:36,272 --> 00:50:37,358


Marc Preston: Who would you want to sit down with?



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00:50:37,419 --> 00:50:38,887


Marc Preston: And at that table of four people you and



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00:50:38,908 --> 00:50:40,572


Marc Preston: three others who would you like to sit down



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00:50:40,612 --> 00:50:41,454


Marc Preston: with and chat?



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00:50:43,017 --> 00:50:46,787


Chris Baker: You know Barry, barack Obama, david Sideris



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00:50:48,471 --> 00:50:51,079


Chris Baker: and Michelle Pfeiffer.



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00:50:52,236 --> 00:50:53,639


Marc Preston: That's an interesting table, you know.



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00:50:53,659 --> 00:50:54,582


Marc Preston: I'd be more fun actually.



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00:50:54,602 --> 00:50:56,025


Marc Preston: Instead coffee, have some beers, you know



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00:50:56,266 --> 00:50:57,196


Marc Preston: kind of cut lies, something.



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00:50:57,216 --> 00:50:59,182


Marc Preston: Something tells me you know the president



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00:50:59,202 --> 00:50:59,965


Marc Preston: would be down with that.



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00:51:00,205 --> 00:51:03,727


Marc Preston: Yeah, now who is your celebrity crush when



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00:51:03,747 --> 00:51:04,270


Marc Preston: you were a kid?



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00:51:04,290 --> 00:51:11,378


Chris Baker: Oh, Well, you know and and and and there



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00:51:11,418 --> 00:51:15,748


Chris Baker: was a guy on the OC that I think his no, I



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00:51:15,886 --> 00:51:17,881


Chris Baker: know his name is Chris Carmack.



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00:51:18,020 --> 00:51:18,577


Chris Baker: I don't know.



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00:51:18,816 --> 00:51:20,341


Chris Baker: I think he's on Grey's Anatomy now, but I



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00:51:20,381 --> 00:51:21,123


Chris Baker: don't watch Grey's Anatomy.



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00:51:22,147 --> 00:51:26,185


Chris Baker: I was in love with him and I mean I love



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00:51:26,225 --> 00:51:29,760


Chris Baker: that show, I just ate that show up, but I I



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00:51:29,821 --> 00:51:31,947


Chris Baker: couldn't believe someone like that



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00:51:32,067 --> 00:51:34,173


Chris Baker: physically could exist and he played a very



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00:51:34,233 --> 00:51:36,066


Chris Baker: stupid character and I always found that



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00:51:36,127 --> 00:51:36,935


Chris Baker: very attractive.



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00:51:38,381 --> 00:51:40,836


Chris Baker: Yeah, that's.



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00:51:40,936 --> 00:51:41,357


Marc Preston: It's funny.



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00:51:41,438 --> 00:51:42,800


Marc Preston: You mentioned Grey's Anatomy, the.



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00:51:43,261 --> 00:51:44,845


Marc Preston: I remember sitting down with Patrick



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00:51:44,865 --> 00:51:49,097


Marc Preston: Dempsey for a movie God it was called, was



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00:51:49,117 --> 00:51:49,679


Marc Preston: it with honors?



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00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:51,718


Marc Preston: It was years ago With the.



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00:51:52,776 --> 00:51:54,782


Marc Preston: Brendan Fraser was in it and so I sat down



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00:51:54,802 --> 00:51:54,982


Marc Preston: with him.



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00:51:55,243 --> 00:51:56,146


Marc Preston: I'm sitting, look at this guy going.



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00:51:57,197 --> 00:51:58,647


Marc Preston: This guy is on the process, man, he's this



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00:51:58,667 --> 00:51:59,815


Marc Preston: guy, he's, he's this nicest guy.



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00:52:00,016 --> 00:52:01,242


Marc Preston: He's got this cool about him.



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00:52:01,402 --> 00:52:03,573


Marc Preston: And here is dr McDreamy years later, you



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00:52:03,613 --> 00:52:04,015


Marc Preston: know so.



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00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:08,506


Marc Preston: Now, if you were to find next question,



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00:52:08,546 --> 00:52:10,937


Marc Preston: what would be Perfect day for you?



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00:52:11,318 --> 00:52:13,924


Marc Preston: Get up, day starts great from stem to stern.



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00:52:14,505 --> 00:52:15,728


Marc Preston: What would be a perfect day for you?



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00:52:16,496 --> 00:52:17,882


Marc Preston: What would be the component parts of that?



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00:52:19,156 --> 00:52:21,883


Chris Baker: Every day is waking up real like right



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00:52:22,144 --> 00:52:27,683


Chris Baker: after sunrise, walking my dog, then doing a



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00:52:27,723 --> 00:52:30,033


Chris Baker: workout of some kind and kind of getting



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00:52:30,074 --> 00:52:33,200


Chris Baker: all those Although all that stress and



Speaker:

00:52:33,481 --> 00:52:35,324


Chris Baker: whatever I drank the night before out of my



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00:52:35,364 --> 00:52:38,290


Chris Baker: system and sweating that out and then



Speaker:

00:52:39,655 --> 00:52:42,384


Chris Baker: Writing some really really, really great,



Speaker:

00:52:42,685 --> 00:52:46,260


Chris Baker: great Scenes with great crackling dialogue



Speaker:

00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,264


Chris Baker: that there's just no better jug than that,



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00:52:48,364 --> 00:52:51,169


Chris Baker: and then going out for pasta with my



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00:52:51,249 --> 00:52:51,530


Chris Baker: husband.



Speaker:

00:52:52,376 --> 00:52:54,361


Marc Preston: Yeah, it's gotta get those carbs and nuts.



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00:52:54,401 --> 00:52:55,264


Marc Preston: That's, that's, that's.



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00:52:55,284 --> 00:52:55,765


Marc Preston: Hey, man, am I?



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00:52:55,865 --> 00:52:56,856


Marc Preston: I'm getting a little older man, I got to



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00:52:56,876 --> 00:52:58,299


Marc Preston: keep an eye out for that, but I'll do it



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00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:58,600


Marc Preston: still.



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00:52:58,721 --> 00:53:00,646


Marc Preston: Hey, you know I don't mind a couple pounds,



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00:53:00,666 --> 00:53:06,077


Marc Preston: sure, why not Now, if you were gonna be On



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00:53:06,117 --> 00:53:08,563


Marc Preston: an island and you're bringing one album,



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00:53:08,884 --> 00:53:11,658


Marc Preston: you're bringing one movie, what are you



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00:53:11,678 --> 00:53:12,180


Marc Preston: taking with you?



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00:53:12,537 --> 00:53:13,826


Marc Preston: Well you know you're gonna be there for a



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00:53:13,866 --> 00:53:14,128


Marc Preston: while.



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00:53:14,148 --> 00:53:15,215


Marc Preston: You're gonna be there for a few months and



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00:53:15,235 --> 00:53:16,499


Marc Preston: that's the only thing you can listen to,



Speaker:

00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:19,005


Marc Preston: only thing you can watch, and you're not



Speaker:

00:53:19,025 --> 00:53:19,707


Marc Preston: gonna get tired of it.



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00:53:21,298 --> 00:53:23,542


Chris Baker: So the album this is kind of a cheap, but



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00:53:23,582 --> 00:53:28,279


Chris Baker: the oh no, yeah, I'm gonna say the album



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00:53:28,299 --> 00:53:30,365


Chris Baker: that I would take is Madonna's immaculate



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00:53:30,385 --> 00:53:33,359


Chris Baker: collection, because I'm gay and that's what



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00:53:33,379 --> 00:53:35,525


Chris Baker: I've, that's just, that's what I have, no



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00:53:35,565 --> 00:53:35,987


Chris Baker: other choice.



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00:53:36,536 --> 00:53:37,478


Marc Preston: It's a pretty diverse album.



Speaker:

00:53:37,498 --> 00:53:38,259


Marc Preston: There's a lot going on.



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00:53:38,620 --> 00:53:39,342


Chris Baker: Yeah, a lot going on.



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00:53:39,883 --> 00:53:44,818


Chris Baker: And then the one movie I would take, uh, is



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00:53:44,899 --> 00:53:48,161


Chris Baker: probably my best friend's wedding.



Speaker:

00:53:49,986 --> 00:53:50,769


Chris Baker: And then what was the other thing?



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00:53:52,461 --> 00:53:54,369


Marc Preston: Just the album and the movie and the movie,



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00:53:54,389 --> 00:53:54,730


Marc Preston: that's it.



Speaker:

00:53:54,750 --> 00:53:55,834


Marc Preston: You know, keep yourself entertained.



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00:53:57,943 --> 00:53:59,070


Marc Preston: Now, last couple questions.



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00:53:59,090 --> 00:54:02,061


Marc Preston: You got a DeLorean, your cruise of back 16



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00:54:02,101 --> 00:54:02,763


Marc Preston: year old Chris.



Speaker:

00:54:03,004 --> 00:54:04,529


Marc Preston: What are you going to tell him?



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00:54:04,609 --> 00:54:05,493


Marc Preston: If you have, if you've got, you know, an



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00:54:05,513 --> 00:54:07,670


Marc Preston: hour to sit down with younger you, where do



Speaker:

00:54:07,690 --> 00:54:08,134


Marc Preston: you got to tell him?



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00:54:08,154 --> 00:54:11,626


Chris Baker: Oh, Words of advice start sooner.



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00:54:12,047 --> 00:54:13,893


Marc Preston: Yeah, that's great advice for anybody kind



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00:54:13,913 --> 00:54:16,139


Marc Preston: of kind of together with that is the idea



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Marc Preston: that you know.



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Marc Preston: Start now at least get going, do it.



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Chris Baker: Don't be afraid, don't.



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Chris Baker: Don't listen to, to what people don't you



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Chris Baker: know.



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Chris Baker: I think things worked out the way they were



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Chris Baker: supposed to.



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Chris Baker: But yeah, I would tell my 16 year old self



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Chris Baker: to start now.



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Chris Baker: Yeah, very nice.



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Marc Preston: And then the last question Now we catch up



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Marc Preston: with years from now and if they, they get



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Marc Preston: the documentary of your life coming out,



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Marc Preston: because you're fabulously Famous, wealthy,



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Marc Preston: hopefully, and you remember, remember a



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Marc Preston: small people down the line, of course, but



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Marc Preston: who would you, who would you like to have



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Marc Preston: narrate the documentary of your life?



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Chris Baker: Oh, I have to because I really love both of



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Chris Baker: their voices, for different reasons.



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Chris Baker: So whoever made it to the voiceover booth



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Chris Baker: and that was still around, because they're



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Chris Baker: both older than me, giovanni Robisi and



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Chris Baker: Delroy lendo I I'm obsessed with nice



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Chris Baker: choices Very good, yeah, actually I think.



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Marc Preston: Giovanni Robisi, he's he's narrated a



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Marc Preston: couple things I've heard before.



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Marc Preston: I narrated the version suicides, which is a



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Marc Preston: very I knew there was something he did,



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Marc Preston: my favorite characters he ever did.



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Marc Preston: It's one of my favorite movies, sophia



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Marc Preston: Copeland, drawn a blank here in Japan.



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Marc Preston: Oh, lots of translation, lots of



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Marc Preston: translations my favorite movies ever, Uh.



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Marc Preston: I love.



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Marc Preston: His character was just like he wasn't in a



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Marc Preston: big part of the movie.



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Marc Preston: But it's just something.



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Marc Preston: Anything he's in, I'm gonna watch yeah but



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Marc Preston: hey my friend.



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Marc Preston: Thank you, I want to thank you for taking



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Marc Preston: the time to just sit down and chat a little



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Marc Preston: talking story Again, the movie the estate



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Marc Preston: on hulu, I gotta you gotta catch it's fun.



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Marc Preston: I recommend a nice bottle of wine, maybe



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Marc Preston: some, you know, maybe some carbs, sure you



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Marc Preston: know, just make an evening of it certainly.



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Marc Preston: But I want to thank you as really kind of



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Marc Preston: you to take some time with me on a Friday



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Marc Preston: nonetheless.



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Marc Preston: But I I wish you nothing but health,



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Marc Preston: happiness, prosperity.



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Marc Preston: I know great things are coming from you and



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Marc Preston: uh, and hopefully we'll have a chance to



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Marc Preston: catch up down the line.



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Chris Baker: I appreciate this so much and thank you for



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Chris Baker: your support and thank you for taking the



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Chris Baker: time.



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Chris Baker: I really appreciate it.



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Marc Preston: Well, there you go, chris Baker.



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Marc Preston: What a what a cool chat.



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Marc Preston: Really enjoyed it.



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Marc Preston: Uh, you know the people that are out there



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Marc Preston: in the world creating their thing, getting



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Marc Preston: it out there, it's very inspirational,



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Marc Preston: whether it be writing a book, a song, uh,



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Marc Preston: screenplay, a movie, whatever.



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Marc Preston: If you are a creative type, I don't care



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Marc Preston: what you're doing, keep on doing it.



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Marc Preston: And you know, chris is a prime example.



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Marc Preston: If you do it and you just kind of stick to



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Marc Preston: it, cool things can happen, without a doubt.



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Marc Preston: Once again, the movie is called the estate.



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Marc Preston: It is on hulu, a little something different



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Marc Preston: than you're probably used to seeing.



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Marc Preston: Once again, the estate on hulu.



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Marc Preston: The next few episodes oh man, we got some



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Marc Preston: cool, cool guests coming up.



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Marc Preston: Hey, I'm gonna get on out of here.



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Marc Preston: You have yourself a killer.



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Marc Preston: Rest of the week, be safe.



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Marc Preston: And, uh, we'll check you out next week



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Marc Preston: right here on story and craft.



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