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Nov. 10, 2022

Fred Melamed | Rebooting The Voice

Fred Melamed | Rebooting The Voice

On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down for a chat with actor, Fred Melamed.  Fred has spent decades in film, TV, stage and in the studio as a voiceover actor.  He is one of the most recognizable character actors, with memorable roles in films such as In a World, Hail, Caesar! and The Spy Who Dumped Me.  His work on TV includes Brooklyn Nine-Nine, The Morning Show, Barry, Wandavision, and Reboot, which is currently airing on Hulu.  

We chat about Fred’s story…from growing up in New York, to studying at Yale, to discovering his passion for acting.  Fred shares insights from his time on Broadway, as well as his work on screen.  We discuss the nuances of creating memorable performances and the impact his roles have had on viewers.  

Finally, we touch on Fred's family life, raising twin sons on the autism spectrum, and the challenges of balancing his professional and personal life. Fred reflects on the importance of culture, behavior, and people-pleasing in the world of entertainment.  Join us for an engaging and insightful look into the life of a talented actor and voiceover artist.

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

0:09:46 - Lake Bell's Script and Voice Acting (69 Seconds)

0:12:53 - Transitioning to Voice Acting (42 Seconds)

0:19:39 - Generational Differences in Discussing Internal Life (68 Seconds)

0:22:54 - The Evolution of Voice Acting (68 Seconds)

0:32:22 - Choosing Roles Based on Contradictions (114 Seconds)

0:37:01 - Adjusting to Family Changes (79 Seconds)

0:49:20 - Jewish Wit on Identity and People-Pleasing (92 Seconds)

0:54:44 - TV Show With a Great Cast (91 Seconds)

1:09:25 - Advice for 16-Year-Old Self (98 Seconds)

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Transcript
Fred Melamed:

You know, i think there's a lot of vanity


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Fred Melamed: and other foibles that come to my attention



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Fred Melamed: frequently, both my own and other people's,



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Fred Melamed: but I also think that it's beautiful that



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Fred Melamed: people do it, because it's not easy.



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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.



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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.



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Marc Preston: Hey, how's it going?



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Marc Preston: I'm Marc Preston back, another episode of



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Marc Preston: Story and Craft And I know, i know, i know



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Marc Preston: it's been a few weeks.



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Marc Preston: You're going, Marc, where have you been?



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Marc Preston: I've been working on some very cool, fun



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Marc Preston: projects but also very time consuming



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Marc Preston: projects, so it's been a moment, but we're



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Marc Preston: back.



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Marc Preston: I've been jazzed, i've been looking forward



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Marc Preston: to it because I know I've got like really



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Marc Preston: cool guests coming up.



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Marc Preston: Kind of like today, actor Fred Melamed



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Marc Preston: Little sit down to talk story with one of



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Marc Preston: the most recognizable character actors out



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Marc Preston: there Men in films, kind of like in a world



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Marc Preston: Hale Caesar, the Coen Brothers movie, the



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Marc Preston: Spy Who Dumped Me.



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Marc Preston: Also TV Brooklyn Nine-Nine The Morning Show,



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Marc Preston: barry WandaVision, his new show on Hulu,



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Marc Preston: super Crazy, funny.



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Marc Preston: It is called Reboot.



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Marc Preston: Got Paul Reiser in that one.



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Marc Preston: Johnny Knoxville Cast is awesome, super



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Marc Preston: funny.



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Marc Preston: Again, reboot the show.



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Marc Preston: We'll be talking about it.



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Marc Preston: And don't forget the website,



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Marc Preston: storyandcraftpod.com.



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Marc Preston: Once again, storyandcraftpod.com.



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Marc Preston: Everything you want to learn about the show,



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Marc Preston: what's going on, past episodes, just head



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Marc Preston: It's all right there.



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Marc Preston: And if you would a little favor, no matter



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Marc Preston: If you're loving what you're hearing, that



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Marc Preston: would be super cool, all right, so let's



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Marc Preston: get after it.



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Marc Preston: Today is Fred Melamed Day, right here on



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Marc Preston: Story and Craft.



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Marc Preston: Thank you so much for taking time out to



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Marc Preston: meet with me today.



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Marc Preston: I so appreciate it.



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Marc Preston: It's my pleasure.



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Marc Preston: Where are you?



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Marc Preston: where are you joining me from?



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Fred Melamed: today I'm in Valley Village, California,



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Fred Melamed: which is in the Valley part of the northern



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Fred Melamed: suburb of Los Angeles.



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Marc Preston: I know you're a New York kid, but are you?



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Marc Preston: is LA your home base now?



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Fred Melamed: It is.



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Fred Melamed: I've lived in LA for about just under 10



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Fred Melamed: years, but you're right that I was born and



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Fred Melamed: spent most of my life in New York.



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Marc Preston: For a New York guy.



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Marc Preston: You had all those great delis.



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Marc Preston: Just a personal question what's it like



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Marc Preston: Where do you like to frequent to grab?



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Marc Preston: is it like Cantors, or is there anywhere



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Fred Melamed: You know Nate Nals was the kind of standard



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Fred Melamed: answer I do like Cantors.



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Fred Melamed: I'm not a huge deli eater actually, but



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Fred Melamed: it's funny.



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Fred Melamed: People often ask me do I miss New York?



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Fred Melamed: And the truth is that New York has changed



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Fred Melamed: so vastly from the time that I lived there



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Fred Melamed: and from the time that I remember growing



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Fred Melamed: up there that there's precious little of it



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Fred Melamed: All the neighborhoods that I was attached



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Fred Melamed: to when I was a kid are gone.



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Fred Melamed: New York has become in many ways like any



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Fred Melamed: It's just a big homogenous kind of mass.



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Fred Melamed: Also, new York was always expensive, even



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Fred Melamed: when I was a kid, but it was possible for



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Fred Melamed: Although it was difficult, they could do it



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Fred Melamed: And that added to the intellectual sort of



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Fred Melamed: vitality.



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Fred Melamed: But that's really changed.



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Marc Preston: I think the perception is, if you're on



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Marc Preston: Broadway, you're doing great.



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Marc Preston: She's on the show the rookie.



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Marc Preston: I was just talking, she was on Broadway.



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Marc Preston: She's like yeah, she's barely eking it out



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Marc Preston: And so maybe it's kind of a misnomer that



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Marc Preston: you've made it professionally, yeah.



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Fred Melamed: I think it's more of a Marc of recognition



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Fred Melamed: than it is actually unless you're kind of a



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Fred Melamed: name star than an indication of your wealth.



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Fred Melamed: It's funny I remember I have a good friend,



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Fred Melamed: a woman director, writer, actress named



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Fred Melamed: Lake Bell, and some years back she was



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Fred Melamed: offered the chance to do a show on Broadway



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Fred Melamed: And she was wondering whether she should do



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Fred Melamed: And I made the point that even as a



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Fred Melamed: television, you can work pretty much when



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Fred Melamed: The reverse is not true.



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Fred Melamed: The power of media is so vast that if



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Fred Melamed: movies, it's a much easier jump for you to



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Fred Melamed: a Broadway regular trying to go the other



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Fred Melamed: way.



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Marc Preston: The other day and I have always wanted to



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Marc Preston: I'd spoken with two people and they both



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Marc Preston: said, yeah, we're going to go see him.



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Marc Preston: He's on Broadway.



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Marc Preston: It seems like there is a lot of support



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Marc Preston: theater to kind of support their friends



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Marc Preston: who are in performances and will travel to



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Marc Preston: come see that.



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Marc Preston: So, going back real quick, you mentioned



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Marc Preston: Lake Bell.



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Marc Preston: I got to tell you Sam Soto is a voiceover



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Marc Preston: guy, one of my favorite characters ever in



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Marc Preston: the film.



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Marc Preston: It was so thank you.



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Marc Preston: How did that role come together for you?



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Marc Preston: You just knew her and you're like, hey, we



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Marc Preston: How did that come to be?



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Fred Melamed: No, i didn't know her.



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Fred Melamed: I didn't know her at all.



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Fred Melamed: It was an interesting thing.



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Fred Melamed: I had done a film in 2008.



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Fred Melamed: I made a film with the Coen brothers called



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Fred Melamed: A Serious Man, which kind of put me back



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Fred Melamed: For many years.



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Fred Melamed: I won't bore you with the whole trajectory



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Fred Melamed: of my work as an actor, but for about over



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Fred Melamed: 20 years all I did was voice work.



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Fred Melamed: That was all From the early 80s really,



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Fred Melamed: almost until 2000,.



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Fred Melamed: That was practically all I did.



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Fred Melamed: I would do an occasional movie, but I had a



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Fred Melamed: very, very bad experience on Broadway doing



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Fred Melamed: the original medical production of Amadeus



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Fred Melamed: Horrible, crippling, stage fright,



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Fred Melamed: absolutely awful.



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Fred Melamed: I thought, well, i've made this horrible



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Fred Melamed: mistake.



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Fred Melamed: I went to Yale Drama School, i'll be an



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Fred Melamed: actor, but people said it's so hard and I



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Fred Melamed: said I'll show you.



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Fred Melamed: And then I found I really didn't like



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Fred Melamed: acting on stage.



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Fred Melamed: I felt very humiliated because I had



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Fred Melamed: trained to do that.



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Fred Melamed: About what year is this?



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Fred Melamed: roughly, i got out of Drama School in 1981.



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Fred Melamed: This realization is 1983.



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Fred Melamed: End of 1983, and I finished the run of



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Fred Melamed: Amadeus.



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Fred Melamed: End of 83, beginning of 84.



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Fred Melamed: Anyway, i had an agent, harry Abrams, who



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Fred Melamed: was a prominent in the voiceover world.



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Fred Melamed: So I said I'd like to do voiceovers And



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Fred Melamed: this was when the voiceover world was very



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Fred Melamed: different than it is today.



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Fred Melamed: Oh my God, yeah, it was almost 40 years ago.



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Fred Melamed: There weren't the throngs of people



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Fred Melamed: It was a very small coterie of people who



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Fred Melamed: There were about 150 people who did 90% of



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Fred Melamed: the work And everybody knew everybody.



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Marc Preston: back then Nobody knew who was doing the



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Marc Preston: work.



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Fred Melamed: Well, there were no home studios.



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Fred Melamed: So therefore you'd see people either at ad



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Fred Melamed: agencies or movie studios or recording



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Fred Melamed: You'd see there was a social element to it



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Fred Melamed: because there was no such thing as



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Fred Melamed: internet-based recording in those days.



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Fred Melamed: Anyway, for about 20 years of my life, that



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Fred Melamed: was all I did, and occasionally I would do



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Fred Melamed: a movie.



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Fred Melamed: Like there were a couple of casting



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Fred Melamed: But it was a great, enjoyable experience



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Marc Preston: You know you really want to get into this.



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Marc Preston: I love the relationship and just there was



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Marc Preston: I just love the character.



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Marc Preston: It's, without doubt, my favorite one of the



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Marc Preston: my, joe Sipriano and the great late, great



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Fred Melamed: Oh sure.



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Fred Melamed: Those guys all became my fast friends Joe



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Fred Melamed: We got to know each other well doing that



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Marc Preston: Now I think that one of the things that's



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Marc Preston: I've been God, i've been doing this like 30,



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Marc Preston: And I've noticed people would come like



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Marc Preston: You know, hey, man, i want to.



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Marc Preston: You know, i got the skills.



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Marc Preston: When you got in, i think what a lot of



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Marc Preston: You always needed the agent, you know, And



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Marc Preston: But now people, internet, home studio, they



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Marc Preston: So it is interesting to see how many people



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Fred Melamed: Yeah, it's an utterly different business,



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Fred Melamed: There's no point in belaboring how the



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Fred Melamed: It makes you older than you already are.



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Fred Melamed: But you know, when I was doing a lot of



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Fred Melamed: First of all, it was all union.



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Fred Melamed: Nowadays there's a lot more work, but it's



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Fred Melamed: And there's thousands of people auditioning



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Fred Melamed: But you know, time marches on and that's



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Fred Melamed: So to me to be worth using, i've always



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Fred Melamed: An awful lot of what I hear on television



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Fred Melamed: It seems like everybody sounds like



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Fred Melamed: Look, obviously, some people of whom that



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Marc Preston: You know it's funny you say that because I



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Marc Preston: But I'm curious though you did mention, to



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Marc Preston: you mentioned, you went to Yale.



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Marc Preston: Am I accurate in saying that?



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Fred Melamed: I'm not sure how much good it did, but I



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Fred Melamed: fact, when I went to Yale.



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Fred Melamed: I went to Yale, which is a graduate program,



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Fred Melamed: drama program from 1978 to 1981, so I got



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Fred Melamed: out in 81, there was absolutely no training



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Fred Melamed: as part of your training.



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Fred Melamed: The presumption probably arrogant and



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Fred Melamed: incorrect presumption was that if you were



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Fred Melamed: But I don't really think that's true.



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Marc Preston: Now you mentioned the stage fright thing,



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Marc Preston: though How did?



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Marc Preston: it seems almost exceptionally ironic that



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Marc Preston: you would have this training from a great



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Marc Preston: What kind of fire that up?



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Marc Preston: Or in 83, you said gosh, this is just not



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Marc Preston: you know the stage.



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Fred Melamed: My own neuroses, my own inner conflicts.



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Fred Melamed: unhealthy pretty unhealthy reasons, and I



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Fred Melamed: think that it became clear to me.



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Fred Melamed: Well, i'll explain it a little more



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Fred Melamed: So I think there are some people who feel



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Fred Melamed: of feeling innately lovable And there are



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Fred Melamed: other people and I count myself among the



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Fred Melamed: secondary camp of people who feel at some



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Fred Melamed: articulate, extremely talented, extremely



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Fred Melamed: Otherwise they're more or less



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Fred Melamed: I think that was a kind of a dynamic of my



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Fred Melamed: I was very close to my father growing up.



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Fred Melamed: My father was a lovely guy.



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Fred Melamed: He was a producer, early television



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Fred Melamed: But there was a quality of depression about



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Fred Melamed: was my life's work to make life seem like a



463


00:18:27,688 --> 00:18:29,271


Fred Melamed: winnable proposition for him.



464


00:18:29,291 --> 00:18:33,047


Fred Melamed: I thought that's what I'm here on earth for.



465


00:18:33,261 --> 00:18:35,052


Marc Preston: You think the depression, the feeling that



466


00:18:35,092 --> 00:18:36,440


Marc Preston: he had, the way you interpreted it, do you



467


00:18:36,540 --> 00:18:38,907


Marc Preston: think that was because of the success with



468


00:18:38,967 --> 00:18:39,870


Marc Preston: work, wasn't enough?



469


00:18:40,311 --> 00:18:41,802


Marc Preston: It was just this generalized sense.



470


00:18:41,982 --> 00:18:42,766


Marc Preston: That's what you're saying.



471


00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,305


Fred Melamed: Yeah, i don't think you.



472


00:18:45,565 --> 00:18:48,391


Fred Melamed: I think people who have not accomplished



473


00:18:48,471 --> 00:18:52,828


Fred Melamed: what they want work-wise tend to assign



474


00:18:53,209 --> 00:18:55,697


Fred Melamed: that threshold as being the thing.



475


00:18:55,937 --> 00:18:57,323


Fred Melamed: There's always a thing that you're going to



476


00:18:57,383 --> 00:18:59,294


Fred Melamed: get, that's going to make you happy, that's



477


00:18:59,314 --> 00:18:59,918


Fred Melamed: going to complete you.



478


00:18:59,938 --> 00:19:01,673


Fred Melamed: I'm going to finally get married, i'm going



479


00:19:01,711 --> 00:19:03,004


Fred Melamed: to finally become a millionaire, i'm going



480


00:19:03,042 --> 00:19:05,149


Fred Melamed: to finally get on Broadway, i'm going to



481


00:19:05,209 --> 00:19:07,799


Fred Melamed: finally admit that I'm gay, i'm going to



482


00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:10,126


Fred Melamed: finally do this or that And then, finally,



483


00:19:10,227 --> 00:19:10,869


Fred Melamed: i will be happy.



484


00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,610


Fred Melamed: Well, the truth is that there is no signal



485


00:19:14,650 --> 00:19:15,372


Fred Melamed: point like that.



486


00:19:15,814 --> 00:19:18,317


Fred Melamed: Whatever you achieve, the sense of



487


00:19:18,432 --> 00:19:20,830


Fred Melamed: emptiness that people have most people have



488


00:19:20,946 --> 00:19:22,684


Fred Melamed: doesn't derive from a lack of



489


00:19:22,820 --> 00:19:24,784


Fred Melamed: accomplishment and therefore accomplishing



490


00:19:24,845 --> 00:19:26,709


Fred Melamed: things doesn't actually ameliorate it.



491


00:19:28,573 --> 00:19:31,670


Fred Melamed: It has to do with other things Early



492


00:19:32,271 --> 00:19:34,097


Fred Melamed: psychodynamic forces on you as a child



493


00:19:34,178 --> 00:19:35,863


Fred Melamed: usually, and how they bounce off the way



494


00:19:35,883 --> 00:19:36,645


Fred Melamed: what you're born with.



495


00:19:39,020 --> 00:19:43,169


Fred Melamed: So I don't think his depression, the



496


00:19:43,209 --> 00:19:44,572


Fred Melamed: depressed sort of outlook that he had,



497


00:19:44,632 --> 00:19:45,922


Fred Melamed: derived from the fact that he wasn't



498


00:19:45,942 --> 00:19:46,704


Fred Melamed: successful enough.



499


00:19:48,128 --> 00:19:49,992


Fred Melamed: I think it had to do with deeper things in



500


00:19:51,083 --> 00:19:52,928


Fred Melamed: his upbringing that I can only guess at.



501


00:19:55,723 --> 00:19:57,006


Marc Preston: Well, he's from that generation where he



502


00:19:57,046 --> 00:19:59,792


Marc Preston: probably didn't discuss that stuff too much.



503


00:20:00,321 --> 00:20:02,281


Marc Preston: He didn't really discuss, And he in



504


00:20:02,341 --> 00:20:06,024


Marc Preston: particular, yeah, Yeah, I'll talk with my



505


00:20:06,064 --> 00:20:08,510


Marc Preston: kids and I'll say listen, I'm doing this



506


00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:10,443


Marc Preston: for you, with you, because this is what



507


00:20:10,463 --> 00:20:11,591


Marc Preston: happened when I was a kid and I was like



508


00:20:11,651 --> 00:20:13,221


Marc Preston: that's not going to work really well.



509


00:20:13,662 --> 00:20:15,306


Marc Preston: So when I have kids, I'm not going to do



510


00:20:15,366 --> 00:20:15,566


Marc Preston: that.



511


00:20:16,288 --> 00:20:18,441


Marc Preston: So I try to explain to them some of the you



512


00:20:18,481 --> 00:20:20,365


Marc Preston: know they're mature, they're a couple of



513


00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:23,583


Marc Preston: them are college kids now, But back then



514


00:20:23,944 --> 00:20:25,452


Marc Preston: your father probably I'm assuming the



515


00:20:25,492 --> 00:20:27,060


Marc Preston: generation probably just didn't discuss



516


00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:28,727


Marc Preston: those internal things too much.



517


00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:29,742


Fred Melamed: Well, especially.



518


00:20:29,982 --> 00:20:31,586


Fred Melamed: I mean I think you're right that in general,



519


00:20:31,847 --> 00:20:34,602


Fred Melamed: in his generation you know he was World War



520


00:20:34,622 --> 00:20:38,254


Fred Melamed: II generation such things were not openly



521


00:20:38,696 --> 00:20:41,163


Fred Melamed: discussed, and I think he was particularly



522


00:20:44,051 --> 00:20:45,816


Fred Melamed: elusive, secretive about some of his



523


00:20:46,297 --> 00:20:46,899


Fred Melamed: internal life.



524


00:20:46,919 --> 00:20:55,752


Fred Melamed: I think that was just his nature, anyway,



525


00:20:56,353 --> 00:20:57,335


Fred Melamed: to bring this back around.



526


00:20:57,395 --> 00:20:59,619


Fred Melamed: So I think I took a lot of that into my



527


00:20:59,779 --> 00:21:01,403


Fred Melamed: acting and I thought it's the actor's job



528


00:21:01,443 --> 00:21:02,727


Fred Melamed: to be kind of superhuman.



529


00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:10,348


Fred Melamed: And I remember going to the theater and



530


00:21:10,408 --> 00:21:12,451


Fred Melamed: feeling this great weight that I had this



531


00:21:12,511 --> 00:21:16,322


Fred Melamed: responsibility, and I began to resent the



532


00:21:16,423 --> 00:21:18,047


Fred Melamed: audience, which is something you sure don't



533


00:21:18,067 --> 00:21:18,749


Fred Melamed: want to do, right?



534


00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,846


Fred Melamed: And I felt horrible because I thought you



535


00:21:20,886 --> 00:21:23,920


Fred Melamed: know here, you know I've trained to do this



536


00:21:24,161 --> 00:21:26,192


Fred Melamed: and I said it's what I want to do and



537


00:21:26,272 --> 00:21:27,559


Fred Melamed: people are paying a lot of money for these



538


00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:29,085


Fred Melamed: tickets and it's a great work, it's a great



539


00:21:29,126 --> 00:21:32,139


Fred Melamed: play, and yet all my effort is going to



540


00:21:32,179 --> 00:21:33,826


Fred Melamed: just getting myself through this play



541


00:21:33,866 --> 00:21:36,317


Fred Melamed: instead of being great at it, because it's



542


00:21:36,358 --> 00:21:37,521


Fred Melamed: so hard for me to just do it.



543


00:21:38,563 --> 00:21:40,867


Fred Melamed: And when I finished the run of it, i



544


00:21:40,887 --> 00:21:46,080


Fred Melamed: finished the show and then I thought, well,



545


00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:47,969


Fred Melamed: i don't want to set foot on stage again, i



546


00:21:48,009 --> 00:21:48,451


Fred Melamed: really don't.



547


00:21:48,552 --> 00:21:50,782


Fred Melamed: And I felt extremely defeated by it and



548


00:21:50,822 --> 00:21:51,605


Fred Melamed: very upset by it.



549


00:21:52,548 --> 00:21:55,278


Fred Melamed: But I needed to make a living and so I got



550


00:21:55,338 --> 00:21:56,562


Fred Melamed: lucky in the voice of a world.



551


00:21:57,365 --> 00:21:58,590


Fred Melamed: I got a couple of big accounts.



552


00:21:58,651 --> 00:22:01,000


Fred Melamed: I got Conoco Oil right out of the chute,



553


00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:02,463


Fred Melamed: which at the time was a big oil company,



554


00:22:03,205 --> 00:22:04,949


Fred Melamed: and then I got MCI, which nobody remembers,



555


00:22:04,970 --> 00:22:05,952


Fred Melamed: which was a phone company.



556


00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,986


Marc Preston: My first big national actually was GTE with



557


00:22:09,326 --> 00:22:12,032


Marc Preston: Patrick Stewart back in 93.



558


00:22:12,513 --> 00:22:13,924


Marc Preston: I say GTE as I could try to explain to my



559


00:22:13,944 --> 00:22:14,125


Marc Preston: kids.



560


00:22:14,366 --> 00:22:16,116


Marc Preston: You had to actually get your own separate



561


00:22:16,337 --> 00:22:18,165


Marc Preston: long distance service and they're like



562


00:22:18,185 --> 00:22:18,888


Marc Preston: what's long distance?



563


00:22:20,735 --> 00:22:22,200


Marc Preston: But yeah, that was a big deal back then to



564


00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,225


Marc Preston: have that kind of an account.



565


00:22:24,924 --> 00:22:25,667


Fred Melamed: Yeah, no, it was great.



566


00:22:25,867 --> 00:22:28,194


Fred Melamed: I was very lucky and I did very well,



567


00:22:28,656 --> 00:22:30,661


Fred Melamed: especially for a person with no response.



568


00:22:30,701 --> 00:22:33,366


Fred Melamed: I was a single guy, a Dinemini, major



569


00:22:33,687 --> 00:22:37,360


Fred Melamed: financial responsibilities, so it was from



570


00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:38,465


Fred Melamed: that point of view it was great.



571


00:22:39,289 --> 00:22:41,479


Fred Melamed: It was artistically, i was writing and



572


00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:43,244


Fred Melamed: doing some other things which kind of



573


00:22:43,825 --> 00:22:45,088


Fred Melamed: satisfied some of my needs.



574


00:22:45,168 --> 00:22:47,761


Fred Melamed: But I was more concerned that I was making



575


00:22:47,801 --> 00:22:49,585


Fred Melamed: a living and that I was, within that small



576


00:22:50,046 --> 00:22:51,769


Fred Melamed: world, kind of a big player.



577


00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,747


Fred Melamed: But then around the early 2000s that



578


00:22:59,147 --> 00:23:00,569


Fred Melamed: suddenly ceased to be.



579


00:23:00,709 --> 00:23:02,632


Fred Melamed: There was this massive change.



580


00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,425


Fred Melamed: But to go back to what we were saying,



581


00:23:06,746 --> 00:23:10,879


Fred Melamed: talking about Lake and that movie, i really



582


00:23:10,959 --> 00:23:12,964


Fred Melamed: didn't understand when that movie was made



583


00:23:13,084 --> 00:23:17,132


Fred Melamed: quite how much the ranks were swollen with



584


00:23:17,172 --> 00:23:17,993


Fred Melamed: people trying to get in.



585


00:23:18,380 --> 00:23:19,102


Fred Melamed: So I started to do it.



586


00:23:20,505 --> 00:23:21,828


Fred Melamed: Every two or three years there'd be an



587


00:23:21,908 --> 00:23:24,220


Fred Melamed: article in TV Guide that said the



588


00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,028


Fred Melamed: millionaire voices you never see, and then



589


00:23:27,088 --> 00:23:28,921


Fred Melamed: for maybe a month there'd be people trying



590


00:23:28,941 --> 00:23:30,626


Fred Melamed: to get into it and then it would quiet down.



591


00:23:32,972 --> 00:23:35,620


Fred Melamed: But it's become this kind of entirely



592


00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,543


Fred Melamed: different thing now.



593


00:23:37,005 --> 00:23:39,714


Fred Melamed: I often wonder why people are so attracted



594


00:23:39,754 --> 00:23:40,055


Fred Melamed: to it.



595


00:23:40,697 --> 00:23:42,986


Fred Melamed: I think part of it is because there are



596


00:23:43,026 --> 00:23:45,073


Fred Melamed: people who are intimidated by the way that



597


00:23:45,113 --> 00:23:45,595


Fred Melamed: they look.



598


00:23:45,615 --> 00:23:48,750


Fred Melamed: They don't feel very confident about how



599


00:23:48,770 --> 00:23:50,958


Fred Melamed: they look, but they know that they can do



600


00:23:51,018 --> 00:23:52,502


Fred Melamed: different things with their voices And some



601


00:23:52,522 --> 00:23:56,790


Fred Melamed: people, including me, feel freer orally



602


00:23:56,830 --> 00:24:00,244


Fred Melamed: than they do AU orally than they do



603


00:24:00,305 --> 00:24:00,787


Fred Melamed: physically.



604


00:24:00,908 --> 00:24:02,154


Fred Melamed: I think that's also part of it.



605


00:24:02,275 --> 00:24:05,384


Fred Melamed: Also, i think people like the idea this



606


00:24:05,424 --> 00:24:09,452


Fred Melamed: kind of probably incorrect idea that it's



607


00:24:09,492 --> 00:24:10,153


Fred Melamed: not so hard.



608


00:24:10,193 --> 00:24:12,064


Fred Melamed: You know you can be your own boss and wear



609


00:24:12,085 --> 00:24:13,449


Fred Melamed: pajamas and stuff like that.



610


00:24:14,031 --> 00:24:18,885


Fred Melamed: I think any career where you're responsible



611


00:24:19,086 --> 00:24:21,833


Fred Melamed: for being hired by yourself is a lot of



612


00:24:21,893 --> 00:24:24,159


Fred Melamed: work You wind up having to do.



613


00:24:24,179 --> 00:24:26,528


Fred Melamed: You know the job becomes about getting jobs.



614


00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,164


Marc Preston: Well, what I tell my students and the



615


00:24:28,204 --> 00:24:30,470


Marc Preston: people that approach me on occasion I say,



616


00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:31,421


Marc Preston: listen, there was an.



617


00:24:31,481 --> 00:24:33,266


Marc Preston: I even wrote a little article about it once



618


00:24:33,326 --> 00:24:35,101


Marc Preston: and I said you know, the equipment is so



619


00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:37,955


Marc Preston: much less to buy it The ability to get on



620


00:24:37,975 --> 00:24:40,844


Marc Preston: the internet and find out people to hire



621


00:24:40,864 --> 00:24:40,924


Marc Preston: you.



622


00:24:40,984 --> 00:24:43,489


Marc Preston: You can actually carve a career out without



623


00:24:43,569 --> 00:24:46,361


Marc Preston: having one of the big agents, and I think



624


00:24:46,783 --> 00:24:50,353


Marc Preston: it's just a creative thing that I think



625


00:24:50,975 --> 00:24:53,181


Marc Preston: people perceive as it being within reach.



626


00:24:54,403 --> 00:24:55,927


Marc Preston: You know, especially like you mentioned,



627


00:24:55,967 --> 00:24:58,873


Marc Preston: the nature of the voices that people want,



628


00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,166


Marc Preston: and advertising, or in promos or in



629


00:25:01,186 --> 00:25:02,992


Marc Preston: different genres, is different.



630


00:25:03,373 --> 00:25:06,362


Marc Preston: But I don't know where it came from.



631


00:25:06,402 --> 00:25:07,766


Marc Preston: And I tell folks, unless you're really



632


00:25:07,866 --> 00:25:10,252


Marc Preston: willing to commit yourself emotionally,



633


00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,625


Marc Preston: artistically and everything and really put



634


00:25:12,645 --> 00:25:15,192


Marc Preston: in the time, sell baskets on Etsy or



635


00:25:15,252 --> 00:25:15,592


Marc Preston: something.



636


00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,966


Marc Preston: You know this is not a side hustle.



637


00:25:18,607 --> 00:25:19,329


Marc Preston: You know you're going to be very



638


00:25:19,349 --> 00:25:20,392


Marc Preston: discouraged very quickly.



639


00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,984


Marc Preston: And then there are people out there like



640


00:25:22,164 --> 00:25:24,290


Marc Preston: yourself or Joseph Riano and those guys we



641


00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:26,626


Marc Preston: mentioned, that they're around for decades



642


00:25:26,727 --> 00:25:29,195


Marc Preston: because they adapt and they're.



643


00:25:29,697 --> 00:25:31,904


Marc Preston: You know they got that a special sauce.



644


00:25:32,025 --> 00:25:32,687


Marc Preston: You know if you will.



645


00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,828


Fred Melamed: And most of those guys actually are now



646


00:25:35,888 --> 00:25:39,138


Fred Melamed: doing a lot of teaching because even they,



647


00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:41,728


Fred Melamed: even their diet of work, has been much



648


00:25:41,788 --> 00:25:43,616


Fred Melamed: reduced because the work has been so spread



649


00:25:43,716 --> 00:25:46,504


Fred Melamed: out And there are major companies now big



650


00:25:46,544 --> 00:25:48,288


Fred Melamed: major companies that don't want to pay



651


00:25:48,408 --> 00:25:49,009


Fred Melamed: union rates.



652


00:25:50,112 --> 00:25:53,004


Fred Melamed: So therefore they're hiring people, you



653


00:25:53,044 --> 00:25:55,168


Fred Melamed: know, who are working out of a garage



654


00:25:55,208 --> 00:25:55,549


Fred Melamed: somewhere.



655


00:25:56,871 --> 00:26:00,224


Fred Melamed: You know, i don't begrudge people's desire



656


00:26:00,244 --> 00:26:01,868


Fred Melamed: to make a living, however they want to do



657


00:26:01,948 --> 00:26:07,323


Fred Melamed: it, but for me, you know, somebody says,



658


00:26:07,343 --> 00:26:08,873


Fred Melamed: well, i'm a professional voiceover artist.



659


00:26:08,893 --> 00:26:10,321


Fred Melamed: Well, they're telling the truth.



660


00:26:11,103 --> 00:26:12,887


Fred Melamed: But that's like saying I'm a professional



661


00:26:12,907 --> 00:26:15,633


Fred Melamed: musician and I play in a band every night



662


00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:17,645


Fred Melamed: and we play bar mitzvahs or weddings, or,



663


00:26:18,327 --> 00:26:19,350


Fred Melamed: you know, maybe once a while we play in a



664


00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:19,471


Fred Melamed: bar.



665


00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,184


Fred Melamed: Well, that guy's a professional musician



666


00:26:21,264 --> 00:26:23,191


Fred Melamed: and he can even be a very good musician,



667


00:26:24,736 --> 00:26:27,684


Fred Melamed: but that's a slogging life that I wouldn't



668


00:26:27,724 --> 00:26:27,985


Fred Melamed: want.



669


00:26:29,308 --> 00:26:33,499


Fred Melamed: So, you know, is it better to work in a



670


00:26:33,539 --> 00:26:35,305


Fred Melamed: dentist's office, you know, and make



671


00:26:35,345 --> 00:26:37,572


Fred Melamed: $50,000 a year, $60,000 a year?



672


00:26:37,773 --> 00:26:40,301


Fred Melamed: or is it better to be a voiceover artist



673


00:26:40,361 --> 00:26:40,702


Fred Melamed: and do that?



674


00:26:40,762 --> 00:26:41,083


Fred Melamed: I don't know.



675


00:26:42,206 --> 00:26:47,019


Fred Melamed: It's, you know, but for me, i always I



676


00:26:47,059 --> 00:26:49,626


Fred Melamed: don't think I would feel satisfied unless I



677


00:26:49,686 --> 00:26:52,312


Fred Melamed: had the larger stage to work on.



678


00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:53,665


Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, it was funny.



679


00:26:53,685 --> 00:26:55,753


Marc Preston: I think I started in voiceover roughly



680


00:26:55,813 --> 00:26:59,027


Marc Preston: about $92, $93, somewhere in there, and my



681


00:26:59,087 --> 00:27:00,795


Marc Preston: mentor, a gentleman at Dallas University at



682


00:27:00,815 --> 00:27:02,381


Marc Preston: the time, was a voice of American Airlines.



683


00:27:02,421 --> 00:27:04,286


Marc Preston: Back then you could just do regional work



684


00:27:04,366 --> 00:27:06,881


Marc Preston: or even in a big metropolitan area you can



685


00:27:06,901 --> 00:27:07,944


Marc Preston: carve out an amazing career.



686


00:27:09,067 --> 00:27:12,357


Marc Preston: He I remember he was just talking about how



687


00:27:12,517 --> 00:27:16,086


Marc Preston: in the 80s it was money hand over fist And



688


00:27:16,427 --> 00:27:17,710


Marc Preston: we're talking about early 90s, which was



689


00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:20,162


Marc Preston: still going pretty well back then.



690


00:27:20,603 --> 00:27:22,748


Marc Preston: But that's really interesting to have a



691


00:27:22,788 --> 00:27:25,161


Marc Preston: chance to speak with someone who did have a



692


00:27:25,201 --> 00:27:27,969


Marc Preston: chance to enjoy a career early on doing



693


00:27:28,050 --> 00:27:29,474


Marc Preston: just voiceover.



694


00:27:29,514 --> 00:27:32,462


Marc Preston: But you're to say it's a success story.



695


00:27:32,482 --> 00:27:34,707


Marc Preston: It's a grotesque understatement, but you've



696


00:27:34,767 --> 00:27:37,413


Marc Preston: had equal success, i feel, on camera.



697


00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:38,667


Marc Preston: I mean, anytime you show up.



698


00:27:38,868 --> 00:27:40,396


Marc Preston: This is not meant to stroke you at all, but



699


00:27:40,436 --> 00:27:44,107


Marc Preston: anytime you show up in something, i'm like,



700


00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:45,369


Marc Preston: oh, okay, it's going to get good.



701


00:27:45,610 --> 00:27:47,093


Marc Preston: Just in some way, one division.



702


00:27:47,180 --> 00:27:48,785


Marc Preston: I had no idea you were on the show, my son,



703


00:27:49,166 --> 00:27:50,490


Marc Preston: he's getting me all schooled up on the



704


00:27:50,550 --> 00:27:52,911


Marc Preston: Marvel universe And I was like, wait,



705


00:27:52,931 --> 00:27:53,575


Marc Preston: there's Fred right.



706


00:27:53,595 --> 00:27:54,942


Marc Preston: I was like, okay, this is going to get good,



707


00:27:54,962 --> 00:27:56,388


Marc Preston: this is going to get interesting, you know,



708


00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:59,301


Marc Preston: or you know you're, oh gosh, the spy who



709


00:27:59,381 --> 00:27:59,802


Marc Preston: dumped me.



710


00:27:59,863 --> 00:28:01,788


Marc Preston: You being a bad guy is like, yes, okay,



711


00:28:01,828 --> 00:28:03,212


Marc Preston: more of this, it's, it's.



712


00:28:03,901 --> 00:28:05,426


Marc Preston: I do adore seeing you show up, because



713


00:28:05,446 --> 00:28:07,150


Marc Preston: there's always going to be a leveling up in



714


00:28:07,170 --> 00:28:08,923


Marc Preston: that moment, i think And again, i'm not



715


00:28:08,963 --> 00:28:10,468


Marc Preston: trying to stroke you, i'm just, like always,



716


00:28:10,488 --> 00:28:11,972


Marc Preston: happy to see you arrive on screen.



717


00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,944


Fred Melamed: Well, i appreciate you saying that.



718


00:28:14,065 --> 00:28:20,499


Fred Melamed: I mean, my whole thing is I want people, i



719


00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:22,784


Fred Melamed: want, i want to be, i want people to be



720


00:28:22,825 --> 00:28:24,228


Fred Melamed: entertained by what I do.



721


00:28:24,308 --> 00:28:25,831


Fred Melamed: I want I want it to be enjoyable.



722


00:28:27,182 --> 00:28:30,213


Fred Melamed: Now, what constitutes entertainment is, you



723


00:28:30,534 --> 00:28:31,798


Fred Melamed: know, different for different people.



724


00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,052


Fred Melamed: I'm on a show now called Barry I'm, i'm, we



725


00:28:35,092 --> 00:28:36,257


Fred Melamed: just started working this week on the



726


00:28:36,297 --> 00:28:38,306


Fred Melamed: second, my second season, therefore, season,



727


00:28:38,326 --> 00:28:40,696


Fred Melamed: but my second season on it, and that's a



728


00:28:40,756 --> 00:28:44,025


Fred Melamed: show It's on HBO or HBO Max, for those



729


00:28:44,045 --> 00:28:49,014


Fred Melamed: people that have streaming where it veers



730


00:28:49,495 --> 00:28:52,748


Fred Melamed: wildly between funny and harrowing.



731


00:28:53,858 --> 00:28:57,408


Fred Melamed: Yes, it's, you know, but but, but Bill



732


00:28:57,448 --> 00:28:59,132


Fred Melamed: Hader, the guy who is the lead and also the



733


00:28:59,192 --> 00:29:03,767


Fred Melamed: writer, director of it, is able to walk



734


00:29:03,807 --> 00:29:06,952


Fred Melamed: that line with, to me, unbelievable skill.



735


00:29:07,673 --> 00:29:11,686


Fred Melamed: So I always, you know, i to me, i, i, i,



736


00:29:11,787 --> 00:29:14,352


Fred Melamed: it's important to to that I be entertained



737


00:29:14,372 --> 00:29:15,260


Fred Melamed: when I watch something.



738


00:29:15,601 --> 00:29:17,726


Fred Melamed: So I'm always, i'm always, i'm always



739


00:29:17,746 --> 00:29:20,452


Fred Melamed: hoping to sort of haunt the audience.



740


00:29:20,552 --> 00:29:21,994


Fred Melamed: That's, you know, when something's really



741


00:29:22,074 --> 00:29:24,736


Fred Melamed: good, when I see a movie or a TV show or



742


00:29:24,816 --> 00:29:27,026


Fred Melamed: play or even read a book even read a book,



743


00:29:27,789 --> 00:29:28,572


Fred Melamed: that's really good.



744


00:29:29,615 --> 00:29:31,703


Fred Melamed: It keeps replaying through my head, i keep



745


00:29:31,743 --> 00:29:32,365


Fred Melamed: thinking about it.



746


00:29:32,385 --> 00:29:33,509


Fred Melamed: That's how I know that it's good.



747


00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:33,860


Fred Melamed: Yeah.



748


00:29:33,901 --> 00:29:34,863


Marc Preston: I'm the exact same way.



749


00:29:35,064 --> 00:29:36,728


Marc Preston: If I see a movie that affects me some way,



750


00:29:36,748 --> 00:29:38,522


Marc Preston: the whole next day it just pops into my



751


00:29:38,602 --> 00:29:38,883


Marc Preston: mind.



752


00:29:38,983 --> 00:29:40,447


Marc Preston: There's something about it, a performance



753


00:29:40,528 --> 00:29:41,841


Marc Preston: or a line or something like that.



754


00:29:41,861 --> 00:29:42,283


Marc Preston: That's funny.



755


00:29:42,303 --> 00:29:43,900


Marc Preston: I'm the same way as you, Yeah.



756


00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:46,609


Fred Melamed: And for me characters are the whole, are



757


00:29:46,689 --> 00:29:50,261


Fred Melamed: really the most interesting thing For me.



758


00:29:50,482 --> 00:29:51,766


Fred Melamed: The characters are what really



759


00:29:51,827 --> 00:29:55,279


Fred Melamed: distinguishes something Like you know I've



760


00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:58,086


Fred Melamed: seen The Godfather God A Zillion Times.



761


00:29:58,106 --> 00:29:59,670


Fred Melamed: You know I that's one of those movies where,



762


00:29:59,750 --> 00:30:01,565


Fred Melamed: even if it just happens to come on



763


00:30:01,605 --> 00:30:03,255


Fred Melamed: television, you know I'll just watch it.



764


00:30:03,296 --> 00:30:04,601


Fred Melamed: I'll just stop whatever I'm doing and just



765


00:30:04,641 --> 00:30:06,646


Fred Melamed: watch it, even though I've seen it so many



766


00:30:06,706 --> 00:30:06,947


Fred Melamed: times.



767


00:30:08,109 --> 00:30:10,722


Fred Melamed: But if you ask me to tell you the plot of



768


00:30:10,742 --> 00:30:13,008


Fred Melamed: The Godfather, i could only give you kind



769


00:30:13,028 --> 00:30:15,542


Fred Melamed: of a very general idea of the plot, of what



770


00:30:15,582 --> 00:30:16,283


Fred Melamed: actually happens.



771


00:30:16,664 --> 00:30:21,933


Fred Melamed: But there are so many things, moments of



772


00:30:21,973 --> 00:30:23,682


Fred Melamed: characters, things that happen that I



773


00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:25,887


Fred Melamed: remember so vividly, and that's the



774


00:30:25,927 --> 00:30:26,449


Fred Melamed: characters.



775


00:30:26,489 --> 00:30:30,627


Fred Melamed: So for me the story, the plot is kind of



776


00:30:30,687 --> 00:30:33,435


Fred Melamed: like this clothesline on which the



777


00:30:33,475 --> 00:30:35,280


Fred Melamed: characters are hung, But it's the



778


00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,065


Fred Melamed: characters that make that bring me back to



779


00:30:37,125 --> 00:30:37,506


Fred Melamed: things.



780


00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:37,887


Fred Melamed: You know.



781


00:30:38,468 --> 00:30:40,112


Fred Melamed: It's the kind of human element of things.



782


00:30:40,682 --> 00:30:41,807


Marc Preston: Yeah, It's being a character.



783


00:30:41,827 --> 00:30:43,897


Marc Preston: I mean I, I have only gotten through one



784


00:30:43,937 --> 00:30:45,964


Marc Preston: season of Barry so far, but Henry Winkler,



785


00:30:46,505 --> 00:30:48,410


Marc Preston: it is so nice to see him be an unpleasant



786


00:30:48,450 --> 00:30:49,292


Marc Preston: person for once.



787


00:30:50,764 --> 00:30:51,948


Fred Melamed: It's so interesting, isn't it?



788


00:30:52,481 --> 00:30:52,862


Marc Preston: Yeah, it's.



789


00:30:53,042 --> 00:30:54,507


Marc Preston: It's like wait, that's not, that's not the



790


00:30:54,547 --> 00:30:55,128


Marc Preston: Henry Winkler.



791


00:30:55,148 --> 00:30:57,704


Marc Preston: But you know it's almost for him to pull



792


00:30:57,745 --> 00:30:59,429


Marc Preston: that off and everybody knows he's a mens.



793


00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:01,807


Marc Preston: You know is, is is a trick, but that's,



794


00:31:01,867 --> 00:31:02,610


Marc Preston: that's a great show.



795


00:31:03,023 --> 00:31:05,442


Fred Melamed: Yeah, i play his agent Did you come in at



796


00:31:05,784 --> 00:31:09,105


Fred Melamed: season three or, yes, this past season, the



797


00:31:09,125 --> 00:31:09,305


Fred Melamed: season.



798


00:31:09,405 --> 00:31:11,490


Fred Melamed: That's the latest season and we just



799


00:31:11,510 --> 00:31:13,033


Fred Melamed: started the next season, just began it.



800


00:31:14,461 --> 00:31:16,126


Fred Melamed: I knew Henry from before because we had



801


00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:17,369


Fred Melamed: done a show together called Children's



802


00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:17,871


Fred Melamed: Hospital.



803


00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,267


Fred Melamed: And there was another man, alec Berg, that



804


00:31:21,287 --> 00:31:23,112


Fred Melamed: was one of the creators of Barry.



805


00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:25,804


Fred Melamed: That I also knew because I had worked with



806


00:31:25,824 --> 00:31:28,209


Fred Melamed: him on Caribbean enthusiasm and some of the



807


00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:29,773


Fred Melamed: Sacha Baronan con films.



808


00:31:30,542 --> 00:31:33,829


Fred Melamed: So it was very wonderful for me because I



809


00:31:33,869 --> 00:31:35,292


Fred Melamed: already knew a bunch of the people and it



810


00:31:35,332 --> 00:31:35,713


Fred Melamed: was great.



811


00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:41,321


Fred Melamed: You're right that Henry is known you know



812


00:31:41,722 --> 00:31:43,968


Fred Melamed: aptly for being one of the sweetest, nicest



813


00:31:44,008 --> 00:31:46,253


Fred Melamed: people you'll ever encounter anywhere.



814


00:31:47,401 --> 00:31:49,347


Fred Melamed: But it is great to see him play this kind



815


00:31:49,387 --> 00:31:52,723


Fred Melamed: of demi-jerk acting teacher with all of his



816


00:31:52,784 --> 00:31:53,666


Fred Melamed: selfishness and all that.



817


00:31:53,786 --> 00:31:55,350


Fred Melamed: And I don't want to ruin it for people that



818


00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:56,092


Fred Melamed: may not have seen it.



819


00:31:56,621 --> 00:31:58,326


Fred Melamed: But some other people who start off very



820


00:31:58,426 --> 00:32:00,953


Fred Melamed: nice or you might think they're very nice,



821


00:32:02,981 --> 00:32:05,142


Fred Melamed: notably Sally.



822


00:32:05,322 --> 00:32:07,970


Fred Melamed: The character of Sally has a big.



823


00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:11,023


Fred Melamed: As you go on she changes and one of the



824


00:32:11,043 --> 00:32:12,507


Fred Melamed: things that the writers of that show love



825


00:32:12,527 --> 00:32:14,872


Fred Melamed: to do is to confound the audience's



826


00:32:14,932 --> 00:32:17,426


Fred Melamed: expectations, but in a ways that actually



827


00:32:17,466 --> 00:32:18,069


Fred Melamed: makes sense.



828


00:32:20,009 --> 00:32:21,316


Fred Melamed: So I have high praise for that show.



829


00:32:21,336 --> 00:32:22,040


Fred Melamed: I really love that show.



830


00:32:22,401 --> 00:32:23,824


Marc Preston: You always seem to get on really



831


00:32:23,984 --> 00:32:25,066


Marc Preston: interesting ensembles.



832


00:32:25,126 --> 00:32:27,752


Marc Preston: I mean part of the story of your career



833


00:32:27,772 --> 00:32:29,922


Marc Preston: that I enjoy so much is where you find you



834


00:32:29,943 --> 00:32:31,346


Marc Preston: know you've had a chance to work with Woody



835


00:32:31,427 --> 00:32:34,702


Marc Preston: Allen more than once, the Coen Brothers Do



836


00:32:34,742 --> 00:32:37,191


Marc Preston: you make decisions on projects based upon



837


00:32:38,081 --> 00:32:38,603


Marc Preston: What do you?



838


00:32:38,864 --> 00:32:40,649


Marc Preston: what is your criteria when you're looking



839


00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:41,331


Marc Preston: to take a role?



840


00:32:42,221 --> 00:32:43,627


Marc Preston: What are the criteria you look at before



841


00:32:43,667 --> 00:32:44,189


Marc Preston: you say yes?



842


00:32:45,141 --> 00:32:46,647


Fred Melamed: Well, there are a few different criteria.



843


00:32:48,304 --> 00:32:50,970


Fred Melamed: One thing that's important to me is the



844


00:32:51,010 --> 00:32:54,364


Fred Melamed: people that I'm working with, so it was an



845


00:32:54,424 --> 00:32:56,611


Fred Melamed: opportunity to work with the Coens again,



846


00:32:57,754 --> 00:33:03,063


Fred Melamed: or somebody like Bill Hader or Paul Thomas



847


00:33:03,124 --> 00:33:05,775


Fred Melamed: Anderson, for example, who I love Now his



848


00:33:05,835 --> 00:33:06,960


Fred Melamed: father was a big VO guy.



849


00:33:07,702 --> 00:33:08,423


Marc Preston: He was indeed.



850


00:33:08,704 --> 00:33:11,490


Marc Preston: Ernie Anderson has a great for people that



851


00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:12,291


Marc Preston: haven't had chance to listen.



852


00:33:12,552 --> 00:33:15,305


Marc Preston: The Outtake Real Ernie Anderson's Outtake



853


00:33:15,365 --> 00:33:18,567


Marc Preston: Real is so satisfying to listen to,



854


00:33:18,768 --> 00:33:20,172


Marc Preston: especially her voice over the talent.



855


00:33:20,702 --> 00:33:23,271


Marc Preston: It's just like oh, yes, yes, you know that



856


00:33:23,291 --> 00:33:24,636


Marc Preston: anyway, ernie Anderson was.



857


00:33:24,937 --> 00:33:25,920


Marc Preston: But yeah, i didn't mean to wrap you, i'm



858


00:33:25,940 --> 00:33:27,424


Marc Preston: sorry, but you said Paul Thomas Anderson.



859


00:33:27,444 --> 00:33:29,309


Marc Preston: I'm thinking you know what a, what a nice



860


00:33:29,329 --> 00:33:30,292


Marc Preston: dad I'd like to grow up with Ernie.



861


00:33:31,701 --> 00:33:33,464


Marc Preston: So your decision is who you get to work



862


00:33:33,484 --> 00:33:33,945


Marc Preston: with.



863


00:33:34,006 --> 00:33:34,847


Fred Melamed: That's one thing.



864


00:33:35,248 --> 00:33:39,761


Fred Melamed: Then there is the character, and in



865


00:33:39,842 --> 00:33:41,967


Fred Melamed: characters I'm always interested in people



866


00:33:42,227 --> 00:33:42,608


Fred Melamed: that are.



867


00:33:42,929 --> 00:33:44,432


Fred Melamed: I'm interested in the opposites within



868


00:33:44,472 --> 00:33:44,773


Fred Melamed: people.



869


00:33:45,362 --> 00:33:47,006


Fred Melamed: I'm interested in people who are, who have



870


00:33:47,046 --> 00:33:49,032


Fred Melamed: contradictory things within them.



871


00:33:50,102 --> 00:33:53,544


Fred Melamed: To give you an example the guy that you



872


00:33:53,584 --> 00:33:56,242


Fred Melamed: mentioned, sam Soto like Bill's character's



873


00:33:56,383 --> 00:34:00,110


Fred Melamed: father in In a World, is obviously, you



874


00:34:00,150 --> 00:34:03,144


Fred Melamed: know, vain and kind of narcissistic, but



875


00:34:03,205 --> 00:34:05,501


Fred Melamed: his feet are so clearly made of clay, he's



876


00:34:05,562 --> 00:34:07,450


Fred Melamed: so threatened that he can't even compete



877


00:34:07,471 --> 00:34:09,319


Fred Melamed: with his own daughter and he loves his



878


00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:09,540


Fred Melamed: daughter.



879


00:34:10,102 --> 00:34:12,208


Fred Melamed: So it's interesting to me when people have



880


00:34:12,308 --> 00:34:14,275


Fred Melamed: inconsistencies, that's always a great



881


00:34:14,335 --> 00:34:15,980


Fred Melamed: thing to play a character that like that.



882


00:34:16,681 --> 00:34:18,164


Fred Melamed: And then there's money to be considered.



883


00:34:18,765 --> 00:34:21,611


Fred Melamed: Now I have two no longer teenage 20 year



884


00:34:21,671 --> 00:34:25,284


Fred Melamed: old boys, twins and college and all that is



885


00:34:25,344 --> 00:34:27,650


Fred Melamed: going on, and I just got divorced about a



886


00:34:27,751 --> 00:34:28,332


Fred Melamed: year ago.



887


00:34:29,122 --> 00:34:31,530


Fred Melamed: So money is not to be sneered at either.



888


00:34:33,842 --> 00:34:34,747


Marc Preston: Sorry, i don't mean to laugh.



889


00:34:34,847 --> 00:34:36,395


Marc Preston: I'm kind of like the been there done that



890


00:34:36,455 --> 00:34:36,898


Marc Preston: thing Yeah.



891


00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:37,320


Fred Melamed: Yeah.



892


00:34:38,423 --> 00:34:41,071


Fred Melamed: So there's different piles and most actors



893


00:34:42,001 --> 00:34:44,330


Fred Melamed: have a pile of stuff that they do because



894


00:34:44,370 --> 00:34:45,454


Fred Melamed: they want to do it, because there's



895


00:34:45,474 --> 00:34:46,658


Fred Melamed: somebody they want to work with or it's a



896


00:34:46,698 --> 00:34:48,347


Fred Melamed: great script, and they have a pile of



897


00:34:48,488 --> 00:34:49,716


Fred Melamed: things that they do because they need to



898


00:34:49,777 --> 00:34:52,224


Fred Melamed: make some money And, if you're really lucky,



899


00:34:52,665 --> 00:34:54,489


Fred Melamed: you get a kind of a confluence between them



900


00:34:54,529 --> 00:34:56,553


Fred Melamed: and there's some projects that cover more



901


00:34:56,573 --> 00:34:57,214


Fred Melamed: than one base.



902


00:34:58,041 --> 00:34:59,445


Fred Melamed: But I think most people are not aware of



903


00:34:59,485 --> 00:35:02,704


Fred Melamed: the fact that in movies, for example, you



904


00:35:02,744 --> 00:35:04,597


Fred Melamed: do a lot of a lot of people do a lot of



905


00:35:04,658 --> 00:35:07,890


Fred Melamed: movies for very little money, even very big



906


00:35:07,950 --> 00:35:11,960


Fred Melamed: stars, because the movies just can't afford.



907


00:35:12,703 --> 00:35:13,907


Fred Melamed: I'm not talking about, you know, marvel



908


00:35:13,968 --> 00:35:16,563


Fred Melamed: movies, but I'm talking about movies that



909


00:35:16,983 --> 00:35:21,232


Fred Melamed: appeal to a more kind of artsy side of



910


00:35:22,113 --> 00:35:23,035


Fred Melamed: those artists.



911


00:35:25,123 --> 00:35:26,427


Fred Melamed: They do them because they want to do them



912


00:35:26,527 --> 00:35:28,272


Fred Melamed: and they can't support big salaries.



913


00:35:29,146 --> 00:35:30,637


Fred Melamed: And then they do other movies on which they



914


00:35:30,657 --> 00:35:31,060


Fred Melamed: get a big payday.



915


00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:33,211


Fred Melamed: But even really big, famous actors do a lot



916


00:35:33,292 --> 00:35:34,338


Fred Melamed: of stuff for very little.



917


00:35:34,419 --> 00:35:36,419


Fred Melamed: Also, you're speaking of those life changes.



918


00:35:38,331 --> 00:35:39,317


Marc Preston: That's got to be an interesting time in



919


00:35:39,338 --> 00:35:39,740


Marc Preston: your life right now.



920


00:35:41,206 --> 00:35:42,853


Marc Preston: And I've got two kids at Loyola in New



921


00:35:42,934 --> 00:35:44,340


Marc Preston: Orleans and she's 19.



922


00:35:44,380 --> 00:35:46,488


Marc Preston: My son's turning 18 shortly I'm going God,



923


00:35:46,508 --> 00:35:47,319


Marc Preston: they're going to be 20.



924


00:35:47,461 --> 00:35:49,133


Marc Preston: And my youngest is still 16, so I still got



925


00:35:49,153 --> 00:35:49,697


Marc Preston: a little bit of time.



926


00:35:52,067 --> 00:35:53,675


Marc Preston: And of course, i have a divorce and I know



927


00:35:53,715 --> 00:35:54,218


Marc Preston: that's not where you are.



928


00:35:54,238 --> 00:35:54,560


Marc Preston: That's not easy.



929


00:35:56,046 --> 00:35:57,632


Fred Melamed: Now, when you say, of course I have a



930


00:35:57,672 --> 00:35:58,656


Fred Melamed: divorce, why do you say of course you have



931


00:35:58,676 --> 00:35:58,917


Fred Melamed: a divorce?



932


00:35:58,977 --> 00:35:59,861


Fred Melamed: I mean, of course you have a divorce, you



933


00:35:59,881 --> 00:36:00,506


Fred Melamed: have to be divorced.



934


00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:02,763


Marc Preston: Of course, with your divorce added into the



935


00:36:02,823 --> 00:36:04,206


Marc Preston: equation.



936


00:36:04,427 --> 00:36:05,048


Fred Melamed: My divorce.



937


00:36:05,068 --> 00:36:06,010


Fred Melamed: Oh yeah, yeah, I thought you were saying



938


00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:06,572


Fred Melamed: your divorce?



939


00:36:06,692 --> 00:36:08,604


Marc Preston: Oh yeah, that too, but but no, i know that



940


00:36:08,644 --> 00:36:10,370


Marc Preston: it's of course that's never easy.



941


00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:12,508


Marc Preston: I'm sorry I probably did not enunciate



942


00:36:12,548 --> 00:36:14,546


Marc Preston: properly, but the thing is you have all



943


00:36:14,566 --> 00:36:16,624


Marc Preston: these life changes, so that's kind of a



944


00:36:16,745 --> 00:36:18,550


Marc Preston: probably in a growth spot for you a little



945


00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:18,771


Marc Preston: bit.



946


00:36:18,820 --> 00:36:20,407


Marc Preston: You know things are a little different.



947


00:36:20,701 --> 00:36:22,368


Marc Preston: Are you looking at anything differently now?



948


00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:25,006


Marc Preston: Is it what kind of projects or experiences



949


00:36:25,067 --> 00:36:26,310


Marc Preston: you want to be having right now in your



950


00:36:26,330 --> 00:36:27,192


Marc Preston: career or personally?



951


00:36:27,721 --> 00:36:28,062


Marc Preston: Sure?



952


00:36:28,644 --> 00:36:30,891


Fred Melamed: I'm looking at several things different.



953


00:36:31,201 --> 00:36:33,028


Fred Melamed: I'm looking at women differently, certainly



954


00:36:33,221 --> 00:36:37,882


Fred Melamed: Now that I'm unattached ogling might be the



955


00:36:37,922 --> 00:36:41,652


Fred Melamed: right, wrong word, but certainly a



956


00:36:41,692 --> 00:36:42,053


Fred Melamed: different.



957


00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,262


Fred Melamed: Yeah, and I have a.



958


00:36:43,562 --> 00:36:47,389


Fred Melamed: You know I have some interest in particular.



959


00:36:47,610 --> 00:36:52,183


Fred Melamed: you know one, but I won't bore the audience



960


00:36:52,203 --> 00:36:52,544


Fred Melamed: with that.



961


00:36:53,567 --> 00:36:55,200


Fred Melamed: Yes, so that has changed.



962


00:36:56,287 --> 00:36:57,656


Fred Melamed: Of course divorces change things,



963


00:36:57,676 --> 00:36:58,949


Fred Melamed: financially certainly, and emotionally,



964


00:36:58,969 --> 00:36:59,820


Fred Melamed: there's no doubt about it.



965


00:37:00,542 --> 00:37:07,884


Fred Melamed: You know I I'm a person who had certain



966


00:37:08,125 --> 00:37:10,411


Fred Melamed: problems, deficits in my early



967


00:37:10,431 --> 00:37:12,709


Fred Melamed: relationships with my parents, some



968


00:37:12,729 --> 00:37:14,985


Fred Melamed: problems in there, and I kind of thought



969


00:37:15,547 --> 00:37:19,207


Fred Melamed: when I'd have my own family I would strive,



970


00:37:19,649 --> 00:37:21,759


Fred Melamed: do my best to remedy those things and not,



971


00:37:21,779 --> 00:37:25,148


Fred Melamed: you know, and I felt like for a while I was



972


00:37:25,549 --> 00:37:27,634


Fred Melamed: successful at that and I was very gratified



973


00:37:27,674 --> 00:37:33,640


Fred Melamed: by it, and then it fell apart.



974


00:37:34,788 --> 00:37:36,097


Fred Melamed: So it's a big adjustment to, you know, have



975


00:37:36,118 --> 00:37:36,460


Fred Melamed: to deal with it.



976


00:37:36,864 --> 00:37:38,097


Fred Melamed: I mean, obviously my children are still my



977


00:37:38,117 --> 00:37:42,767


Fred Melamed: children, my ex-wife is still around, but



978


00:37:42,888 --> 00:37:44,476


Fred Melamed: we were a happy family for a long time and



979


00:37:44,496 --> 00:37:46,846


Fred Melamed: it's quite an adjustment to have to have to



980


00:37:46,867 --> 00:37:49,960


Fred Melamed: have that, see that kind of fall away.



981


00:37:51,206 --> 00:37:52,915


Fred Melamed: And you know we're still a family of sorts



982


00:37:52,995 --> 00:37:53,940


Fred Melamed: but we're much more dislocated than we were.



983


00:37:56,770 --> 00:37:59,019


Fred Melamed: And you know I'm 66 years old and you know



984


00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:02,808


Fred Melamed: I didn't the idea of dragging my 66 year



985


00:38:02,868 --> 00:38:04,552


Fred Melamed: old ass out into the cold winds of the



986


00:38:04,612 --> 00:38:07,358


Fred Melamed: dating world did not particularly welcome



987


00:38:07,398 --> 00:38:07,519


Fred Melamed: me.



988


00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,007


Marc Preston: No laughing, believe me, i am, i'm here,



989


00:38:10,047 --> 00:38:11,573


Marc Preston: with you speaking with a good friend who



990


00:38:11,593 --> 00:38:14,808


Marc Preston: was going through the exact same thing And



991


00:38:14,829 --> 00:38:16,178


Marc Preston: I said it's like getting back to a place



992


00:38:16,198 --> 00:38:19,216


Marc Preston: you've never been And it's ironic because



993


00:38:19,236 --> 00:38:19,940


Marc Preston: you're still a family of sorts.



994


00:38:19,940 --> 00:38:20,421


Marc Preston: You're single.



995


00:38:20,461 --> 00:38:22,367


Marc Preston: You've been single before you've, but now



996


00:38:22,407 --> 00:38:23,991


Marc Preston: you have kids, you have life experiences,



997


00:38:24,020 --> 00:38:25,466


Marc Preston: so there's no, like I say, you can never go



998


00:38:25,546 --> 00:38:25,767


Marc Preston: home.



999


00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,167


Marc Preston: I think that the concept of being single



Speaker:

00:38:28,729 --> 00:38:29,411


Marc Preston: does change.



Speaker:

00:38:30,081 --> 00:38:31,565


Marc Preston: I was reading an article yesterday about



Speaker:

00:38:31,585 --> 00:38:33,309


Marc Preston: people doing online dating and how that's



Speaker:

00:38:33,389 --> 00:38:35,341


Marc Preston: changed the paradigm, and they said that



Speaker:

00:38:35,362 --> 00:38:38,690


Marc Preston: there are more single guys now because more



Speaker:

00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:40,421


Marc Preston: relationship, more people are seeking



Speaker:

00:38:40,501 --> 00:38:42,205


Marc Preston: healthier relationships and they're a



Speaker:

00:38:42,246 --> 00:38:44,872


Marc Preston: longer term or something to that effect.



Speaker:

00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:47,228


Marc Preston: You know you just it's Carpe Diem.



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00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:48,727


Fred Melamed: You still have to enjoy the day in some



Speaker:

00:38:48,748 --> 00:38:50,779


Fred Melamed: shape, former fashion and well, certainly,



Speaker:

00:38:50,879 --> 00:38:52,764


Fred Melamed: but I do think that I think that the



Speaker:

00:38:52,804 --> 00:38:55,690


Fred Melamed: challenges of the last few years have not



Speaker:

00:38:55,751 --> 00:38:57,904


Fred Melamed: been good for the marriage Marcet.



Speaker:

00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,886


Fred Melamed: When I had to at the end of the beginning



Speaker:

00:39:01,906 --> 00:39:05,934


Fred Melamed: of 2021, i had to find a divorce attorney,



Speaker:

00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:08,006


Fred Melamed: so I got myself a very good woman divorce



Speaker:

00:39:08,046 --> 00:39:12,026


Fred Melamed: attorney And when I first decided to hire



Speaker:

00:39:12,066 --> 00:39:14,271


Fred Melamed: her, she said just so, you know, you're our



Speaker:

00:39:14,331 --> 00:39:14,953


Fred Melamed: last case.



Speaker:

00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,007


Fred Melamed: We have books full for like five years



Speaker:

00:39:17,047 --> 00:39:17,248


Fred Melamed: ahead.



Speaker:

00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,632


Fred Melamed: There have been so many divorces since the



Speaker:

00:39:20,692 --> 00:39:22,520


Fred Melamed: lock the COVID lockdown that we literally



Speaker:

00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:23,986


Fred Melamed: can't take any more people.



Speaker:

00:39:24,580 --> 00:39:27,329


Marc Preston: That is, you know, but I feel for you, you



Speaker:

00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:28,753


Marc Preston: know, much love too, because I know that,



Speaker:

00:39:28,773 --> 00:39:30,486


Marc Preston: no matter how you carve it up, it's, it's



Speaker:

00:39:30,526 --> 00:39:31,781


Marc Preston: an odyssey, but you know you come.



Speaker:

00:39:31,801 --> 00:39:33,546


Marc Preston: you always come out on the back end



Speaker:

00:39:34,228 --> 00:39:35,741


Marc Preston: learning more about yourself, and I think



Speaker:

00:39:35,761 --> 00:39:37,190


Marc Preston: that's that's the way I've tried to look at



Speaker:

00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:37,552


Marc Preston: things.



Speaker:

00:39:37,652 --> 00:39:39,341


Marc Preston: you know, you know that's actually a



Speaker:

00:39:39,381 --> 00:39:39,802


Marc Preston: question.



Speaker:

00:39:39,842 --> 00:39:42,809


Marc Preston: you were, you know you had a family, i



Speaker:

00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:43,170


Marc Preston: believe.



Speaker:

00:39:43,230 --> 00:39:45,002


Marc Preston: if I read something, or maybe you heard you



Speaker:

00:39:45,023 --> 00:39:46,988


Marc Preston: at one point in time, your sons, they were



Speaker:

00:39:47,249 --> 00:39:48,051


Marc Preston: on the spectrum.



Speaker:

00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,406


Marc Preston: Am I, am I correct in saying that?



Speaker:

00:39:49,460 --> 00:39:50,924


Marc Preston: And you've been a big advocate for that?



Speaker:

00:39:50,944 --> 00:39:54,584


Fred Melamed: Yes, Yes, that's a that was a big, big part



Speaker:

00:39:54,604 --> 00:39:56,690


Fred Melamed: of of my life and our lives together.



Speaker:

00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,427


Fred Melamed: I have twin sons that are will be 20 this



Speaker:

00:39:59,488 --> 00:40:02,788


Fred Melamed: year, one of whom has quite severe autism.



Speaker:

00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,887


Fred Melamed: The other was was diagnosed with autism



Speaker:

00:40:06,947 --> 00:40:09,292


Fred Melamed: when he was younger, when he was quite



Speaker:

00:40:09,352 --> 00:40:11,665


Fred Melamed: young, but functionally it hardly affects



Speaker:

00:40:11,705 --> 00:40:13,931


Fred Melamed: him at all in any discernible way anymore



Speaker:

00:40:13,940 --> 00:40:17,168


Fred Melamed: And he's very, very high achiever and also



Speaker:

00:40:17,228 --> 00:40:18,692


Fred Melamed: very personable, very smart.



Speaker:

00:40:18,732 --> 00:40:20,205


Fred Melamed: You know he really is doing great.



Speaker:

00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:23,727


Fred Melamed: So we had both ends of the spectrum in our



Speaker:

00:40:23,948 --> 00:40:24,630


Fred Melamed: in our family.



Speaker:

00:40:25,460 --> 00:40:26,783


Fred Melamed: So that's, you know, that was a major



Speaker:

00:40:27,865 --> 00:40:31,312


Fred Melamed: factor in my, in me and my wife's life and



Speaker:

00:40:31,633 --> 00:40:33,285


Fred Melamed: decisions about where to live and all that



Speaker:

00:40:33,345 --> 00:40:35,222


Fred Melamed: stuff, and so we.



Speaker:

00:40:35,402 --> 00:40:36,745


Marc Preston: so you were living somewhere where you had



Speaker:

00:40:36,986 --> 00:40:39,892


Marc Preston: great resources for the, for the, for your,



Speaker:

00:40:39,932 --> 00:40:40,092


Marc Preston: son?



Speaker:

00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,407


Fred Melamed: No, as a matter of no, we did not.



Speaker:

00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:44,104


Fred Melamed: What happened was we were living in



Speaker:

00:40:44,124 --> 00:40:46,210


Fred Melamed: Manhattan, in New York city, and we had a



Speaker:

00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:46,912


Fred Melamed: country house.



Speaker:

00:40:47,060 --> 00:40:49,506


Fred Melamed: This is in the in the glory days of my my



Speaker:

00:40:49,566 --> 00:40:51,900


Fred Melamed: glory days of voiceover business, when I



Speaker:

00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,163


Fred Melamed: was the voice of CBS Sports.



Speaker:

00:40:53,203 --> 00:40:56,290


Fred Melamed: I was the person who said the NFL on CBS,



Speaker:

00:40:56,430 --> 00:40:57,092


Fred Melamed: that guy.



Speaker:

00:40:57,620 --> 00:40:59,525


Fred Melamed: So I had that job, that unbelievably good



Speaker:

00:40:59,565 --> 00:41:03,882


Fred Melamed: job, for about seven years I think, and I



Speaker:

00:41:03,943 --> 00:41:06,088


Fred Melamed: bought a house, a really nice house, out in



Speaker:

00:41:06,148 --> 00:41:08,101


Fred Melamed: Montauk, in the Hamptons, in the east end



Speaker:

00:41:08,121 --> 00:41:10,620


Fred Melamed: of on the east end of Long Island, and we



Speaker:

00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,465


Fred Melamed: had that as a country house and we had our,



Speaker:

00:41:12,785 --> 00:41:14,770


Fred Melamed: our, our apartment in Manhattan.



Speaker:

00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:16,643


Fred Melamed: We'd go back and forth And I built a little.



Speaker:

00:41:16,783 --> 00:41:18,569


Fred Melamed: By this time people were building home



Speaker:

00:41:18,609 --> 00:41:20,145


Fred Melamed: studios, so I built a little studio into



Speaker:

00:41:20,165 --> 00:41:20,506


Fred Melamed: the house.



Speaker:

00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:22,584


Fred Melamed: I had a studio both in New York and in the



Speaker:

00:41:22,624 --> 00:41:26,442


Fred Melamed: house in in Hamptons, and when our kids



Speaker:

00:41:26,482 --> 00:41:28,507


Fred Melamed: were diagnosed which was 2000, the



Speaker:

00:41:29,449 --> 00:41:34,360


Fred Melamed: beginning of 2004, there was such an



Speaker:

00:41:34,621 --> 00:41:36,526


Fred Melamed: avalanche of cases of autism in New York



Speaker:

00:41:36,566 --> 00:41:39,172


Fred Melamed: city that even though we were entitled to



Speaker:

00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,326


Fred Melamed: be able to get services for them, you



Speaker:

00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:42,008


Fred Melamed: couldn't get them.



Speaker:

00:41:42,529 --> 00:41:42,770


Marc Preston: Really.



Speaker:

00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,865


Fred Melamed: Um, there were just not enough people, Yeah,



Speaker:

00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:47,985


Fred Melamed: So, uh, we couldn't.



Speaker:

00:41:48,065 --> 00:41:50,029


Fred Melamed: we were told to get one particular form of



Speaker:

00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:52,223


Fred Melamed: therapy called ABA therapy, a behaviorally



Speaker:

00:41:52,283 --> 00:41:52,986


Fred Melamed: oriented therapy.



Speaker:

00:41:53,488 --> 00:41:55,517


Fred Melamed: that was the only one that was shown to



Speaker:

00:41:55,577 --> 00:41:58,506


Fred Melamed: really have, you know, significant positive



Speaker:

00:41:58,707 --> 00:41:59,108


Fred Melamed: effects.



Speaker:

00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:02,132


Fred Melamed: But there weren't therapists available



Speaker:

00:42:02,249 --> 00:42:04,370


Fred Melamed: because in New York there were so many



Speaker:

00:42:04,487 --> 00:42:05,463


Fred Melamed: cases of autism.



Speaker:

00:42:05,463 --> 00:42:06,747


Marc Preston: I'd be so frustrating where you're, you're,



Speaker:

00:42:07,168 --> 00:42:07,930


Marc Preston: you know you're sitting there.



Speaker:

00:42:07,970 --> 00:42:08,743


Marc Preston: You know I'm an actor.



Speaker:

00:42:08,803 --> 00:42:09,166


Marc Preston: What am I?



Speaker:

00:42:09,186 --> 00:42:09,649


Marc Preston: you know you're?



Speaker:

00:42:10,071 --> 00:42:11,560


Marc Preston: you want somebody's professional to be able



Speaker:

00:42:11,620 --> 00:42:12,885


Marc Preston: to guide you on what to do.



Speaker:

00:42:13,647 --> 00:42:15,106


Fred Melamed: Right, and also for them to have a certain



Speaker:

00:42:15,126 --> 00:42:16,374


Fred Melamed: number of hours of therapy.



Speaker:

00:42:16,414 --> 00:42:18,002


Fred Melamed: because we were told, you must get this and



Speaker:

00:42:18,042 --> 00:42:20,228


Fred Melamed: it's absolutely of of of prime importance



Speaker:

00:42:20,248 --> 00:42:21,010


Fred Melamed: that you get it quickly.



Speaker:

00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:23,985


Fred Melamed: So we had this other house out on Long



Speaker:

00:42:24,105 --> 00:42:26,331


Fred Melamed: Island and there, in that county, which was



Speaker:

00:42:26,371 --> 00:42:29,206


Fred Melamed: a different county, suffolk County uh, the



Speaker:

00:42:29,246 --> 00:42:30,309


Fred Melamed: services were available.



Speaker:

00:42:31,460 --> 00:42:34,389


Fred Melamed: So we moved full time out to that other



Speaker:

00:42:34,449 --> 00:42:37,839


Fred Melamed: house and raised our children there, uh,



Speaker:

00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:39,707


Fred Melamed: for the first 10 years of their lives.



Speaker:

00:42:40,330 --> 00:42:42,218


Fred Melamed: um, precisely because we found a school out



Speaker:

00:42:42,238 --> 00:42:45,061


Fred Melamed: there that was great for both of them, uh,



Speaker:

00:42:45,202 --> 00:42:47,347


Fred Melamed: it, it served both kids that had



Speaker:

00:42:47,467 --> 00:42:49,031


Fred Melamed: developmental disabilities and also kids



Speaker:

00:42:49,051 --> 00:42:51,165


Fred Melamed: that were on the sort of genius scale.



Speaker:

00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:54,126


Fred Melamed: So both of our, both of our ends, were



Speaker:

00:42:54,166 --> 00:42:55,350


Fred Melamed: covered by that school and they did



Speaker:

00:42:55,390 --> 00:42:56,882


Fred Melamed: wonderfully well there, but it only went,



Speaker:

00:42:57,544 --> 00:43:00,603


Fred Melamed: uh, as far as fifth grade, so, which



Speaker:

00:43:00,664 --> 00:43:01,780


Fred Melamed: prompted our move to California.



Speaker:

00:43:02,241 --> 00:43:03,485


Marc Preston: I had a good friend who, who?



Speaker:

00:43:03,625 --> 00:43:05,089


Marc Preston: or I have a good friend whose uh son of



Speaker:

00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:08,149


Marc Preston: guy's son's almost 30 now, uh, but when he



Speaker:

00:43:08,209 --> 00:43:09,877


Marc Preston: was younger, one of the things that I



Speaker:

00:43:09,917 --> 00:43:11,783


Marc Preston: remember her telling me that they wanted uh



Speaker:

00:43:11,843 --> 00:43:13,628


Marc Preston: the people in the know had her do was have



Speaker:

00:43:13,668 --> 00:43:17,166


Marc Preston: him watch older, uh, sit family, sit comp



Speaker:

00:43:17,186 --> 00:43:17,648


Marc Preston: family.



Speaker:

00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,066


Marc Preston: I don't know where you could see families



Speaker:

00:43:20,146 --> 00:43:21,370


Marc Preston: modeling behavior.



Speaker:

00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,585


Marc Preston: So that was a big thing for the, for the



Speaker:

00:43:23,625 --> 00:43:25,910


Marc Preston: children, for him, for him to see is what



Speaker:

00:43:25,930 --> 00:43:27,273


Marc Preston: are kind of a traditional family.



Speaker:

00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,725


Marc Preston: You know it's uh, it's it's different



Speaker:

00:43:29,745 --> 00:43:32,972


Marc Preston: challenges, but you know it's um, you know



Speaker:

00:43:33,012 --> 00:43:33,781


Marc Preston: I know different people.



Speaker:

00:43:33,821 --> 00:43:35,067


Marc Preston: As they say it's it's a spectrum.



Speaker:

00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:37,088


Marc Preston: So people like even in your own home you



Speaker:

00:43:37,128 --> 00:43:39,338


Marc Preston: had a spectrum of experiences, most



Speaker:

00:43:39,378 --> 00:43:40,983


Marc Preston: certainly is, but are some of it?



Speaker:

00:43:41,003 --> 00:43:42,487


Marc Preston: you said they're doing the college thing or



Speaker:

00:43:42,507 --> 00:43:44,292


Marc Preston: are they going for advanced education right



Speaker:

00:43:44,312 --> 00:43:44,432


Marc Preston: now?



Speaker:

00:43:44,660 --> 00:43:46,605


Fred Melamed: Well, one of them, uh, goes to Chapman



Speaker:

00:43:46,685 --> 00:43:48,549


Fred Melamed: University here in California and he's



Speaker:

00:43:48,590 --> 00:43:51,707


Fred Melamed: studying psychology, uh and and acting both.



Speaker:

00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:52,582


Fred Melamed: He's been in a couple of movies.



Speaker:

00:43:52,602 --> 00:43:54,107


Fred Melamed: He's quite a good actor, but he decided he



Speaker:

00:43:54,147 --> 00:43:55,210


Fred Melamed: wants to be a psychologist.



Speaker:

00:43:55,962 --> 00:43:57,147


Marc Preston: He'll be working with some actors.



Speaker:

00:43:58,901 --> 00:44:00,343


Fred Melamed: I think he wanted to work with mentally ill



Speaker:

00:44:00,363 --> 00:44:01,324


Fred Melamed: people because it was a healthier



Speaker:

00:44:01,364 --> 00:44:01,965


Fred Melamed: population.



Speaker:

00:44:11,661 --> 00:44:13,385


Fred Melamed: He's doing great and my other son the one



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Fred Melamed: who has autism is you know as much more



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Fred Melamed: serious goes to a special school strictly



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Fred Melamed: four people with autism and he graduated



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Fred Melamed: high school but now he's in kind of like



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Fred Melamed: post high school kind of vocational



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Fred Melamed: training, although he doesn't actually get



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Fred Melamed: too much vocation job preparation because I



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Fred Melamed: don't, he probably will not be able to



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Fred Melamed: handle a regular job, but he gets schooling



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Fred Melamed: in life skills, self-help, that kind of



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Fred Melamed: stuff, and he can continue there, i think,



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Fred Melamed: until he's 22.



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Marc Preston: You have a family member who went through



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Marc Preston: something like that.



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Marc Preston: They've learned, you know the skills just



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Marc Preston: interpersonal skills and like things like



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Marc Preston: that and I know those programs really can



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Marc Preston: work wonders because she feels great



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Marc Preston: satisfaction with what she does.



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Marc Preston: Just a real quick question.



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Marc Preston: One last question about kind of the origin



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Marc Preston: stories.



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Marc Preston: So now you grew up, is your family more on



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Marc Preston: the?



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Marc Preston: were they more orthodox maybe to the reform



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Marc Preston: side of things?



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Marc Preston: growing up in New?



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Fred Melamed: York City.



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Fred Melamed: They completely made fun of it.



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Fred Melamed: They thought it was a lot of hooey.



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Fred Melamed: My parents were old enough to have grown up



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Fred Melamed: in the Depression and they were, you know,



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Fred Melamed: lefties from the Depression era and then



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Fred Melamed: grownups in World War II.



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Fred Melamed: So they were quite skeptical about religion.



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Fred Melamed: Maybe I'm overstating it, but I mean I had



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Fred Melamed: no religious training.



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Fred Melamed: I was at the age of 11, which is when you



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Fred Melamed: have to start Hebrew school if you're going



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Fred Melamed: to get Bar Mitzvah.



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Fred Melamed: Usually I was asked do I want to have



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Fred Melamed: another day of school a week?



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Fred Melamed: and Jesus five was more than I could handle



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Fred Melamed: anyway.



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Fred Melamed: So I said no, i didn't.



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Fred Melamed: So I was never Bar Mitzvah, never had any



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Fred Melamed: religious education at all.



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Fred Melamed: And I remember once asking my mother is God



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Fred Melamed: real?



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Fred Melamed: And she said if you think God is real, then



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Fred Melamed: God is real.



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Fred Melamed: If you don't think God is real, then God is



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Fred Melamed: not real.



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Fred Melamed: At the time I think I misunderstood.



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Fred Melamed: I think I thought I thought what she meant



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Fred Melamed: then was that God is just something in



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Fred Melamed: people's heads.



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Fred Melamed: But what I later came to feel about it was



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Fred Melamed: what she was saying was it doesn't matter



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Fred Melamed: if God actually is real, if there is a kind



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Fred Melamed: of God, if you don't think there is a kind



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Fred Melamed: of God, then God's existence won't matter



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Fred Melamed: anyway.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's so funny.



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Marc Preston: I look at it as more of a cultural thing



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Marc Preston: for my family.



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Marc Preston: Even my great-grandfather came over from



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Marc Preston: Odessa, ukraine.



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Marc Preston: A lot of the people there were very learned,



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Marc Preston: very intelligent.



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Marc Preston: They were not skeptical.



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00:46:44,570 --> 00:46:46,679


Marc Preston: They knew the Torah backwards and forwards



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00:46:46,739 --> 00:46:49,129


Marc Preston: and everything, but they looked at it as



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Marc Preston: it's their culture.



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Marc Preston: That's why they're learning it.



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Marc Preston: It's not that they're taking you to some



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Marc Preston: you have to do this thing, but they were



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00:46:56,461 --> 00:46:56,742


Marc Preston: very.



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Marc Preston: A lot of them were more surprisingly, more



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00:46:59,355 --> 00:47:01,621


Marc Preston: even than the agnostic realm, if you will.



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Marc Preston: But the culture, of course, it was there.



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00:47:04,978 --> 00:47:05,360


Marc Preston: The food.



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Fred Melamed: The culture.



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Fred Melamed: I was well-uncoocated with The culture.



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Fred Melamed: I don't mean the religious elements of the



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Fred Melamed: culture, but Yiddishism's in my behavior, a



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Fred Melamed: kind of Jewish.



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00:47:15,690 --> 00:47:18,477


Fred Melamed: I was once asked what to you is Jewish?



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00:47:20,690 --> 00:47:25,882


Fred Melamed: The way I answered that was that to me, not



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00:47:25,942 --> 00:47:28,288


Fred Melamed: being able to be quiet about everything in



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00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:33,302


Fred Melamed: life that's ridiculous or unfair is Jewish.



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00:47:33,570 --> 00:47:35,315


Fred Melamed: Not being able to keep your mouth shut is



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00:47:35,355 --> 00:47:36,438


Fred Melamed: what I think of as Jewish.



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00:47:36,579 --> 00:47:38,613


Fred Melamed: And having to react to all that is unfair,



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00:47:38,993 --> 00:47:42,341


Fred Melamed: difficult, painful in life vociferously,



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00:47:43,130 --> 00:47:44,134


Fred Melamed: that seems Jewish to me.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, one thing I miss about being my age



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00:47:47,421 --> 00:47:47,642


Marc Preston: is all the.



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00:47:47,662 --> 00:47:49,230


Marc Preston: I mean, most of the elder folks are passing



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00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:51,602


Marc Preston: on or have passed on and I used to love as



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00:47:51,698 --> 00:47:54,253


Marc Preston: a kid being at a bar mitzvah or a wedding



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00:47:54,273 --> 00:47:55,879


Marc Preston: or something and some of the old guys be



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00:47:55,919 --> 00:47:58,789


Marc Preston: sitting around just chewing the fat with



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00:47:58,850 --> 00:48:00,717


Marc Preston: each other and just listening to, like my



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00:48:00,737 --> 00:48:04,090


Marc Preston: people, my grandfather's age that anything



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00:48:04,110 --> 00:48:05,856


Marc Preston: that lacked common sense drove them nuts.



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00:48:06,970 --> 00:48:08,175


Marc Preston: They kind of tore into each other.



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00:48:08,830 --> 00:48:10,360


Marc Preston: I remember one thing my grandfather liked



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00:48:10,381 --> 00:48:11,810


Marc Preston: the real close shave and I remember his



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00:48:11,890 --> 00:48:14,076


Marc Preston: friends, somebody in famous like Harry.



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00:48:14,116 --> 00:48:15,741


Marc Preston: But how long does a close shave last?



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00:48:16,090 --> 00:48:17,756


Marc Preston: Why are you so worried about a close shave



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00:48:17,776 --> 00:48:18,077


Marc Preston: at last?



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00:48:18,490 --> 00:48:20,034


Marc Preston: Because the arguments these older Jewish



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00:48:20,075 --> 00:48:22,161


Marc Preston: guys would have warmed my heart.



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00:48:22,430 --> 00:48:23,550


Marc Preston: That's all I'm saying In tech.



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00:48:23,570 --> 00:48:25,877


Marc Preston: My family immigrated through Galveston,



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00:48:25,917 --> 00:48:26,318


Marc Preston: texas.



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00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:27,221


Marc Preston: A lot of people did.



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00:48:27,610 --> 00:48:28,272


Marc Preston: They come along the coast.



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00:48:28,292 --> 00:48:31,575


Marc Preston: Galveston, new Orleans, you know, so you



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00:48:31,596 --> 00:48:33,605


Marc Preston: run up in New York had to be readily



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00:48:33,665 --> 00:48:34,810


Marc Preston: available bagels.



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00:48:35,091 --> 00:48:37,096


Marc Preston: It had to have been really nice, you know.



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00:48:37,677 --> 00:48:39,891


Fred Melamed: Yes, there was all that stuff There was.



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00:48:40,672 --> 00:48:42,977


Fred Melamed: I grew up thinking most people must be



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00:48:43,017 --> 00:48:44,721


Fred Melamed: Jewish, because most people that I knew



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00:48:44,761 --> 00:48:47,556


Fred Melamed: were Jewish, so I assumed that was the case.



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00:48:48,990 --> 00:48:50,115


Fred Melamed: I went to a special school.



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00:48:50,170 --> 00:48:52,381


Fred Melamed: I went to a sort of genius school called



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00:48:52,401 --> 00:48:54,089


Fred Melamed: Hunter College Elementary School a model



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00:48:54,129 --> 00:48:56,732


Fred Melamed: school for gifted children, and two-thirds



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00:48:56,752 --> 00:48:57,736


Fred Melamed: of the people there were Jewish.



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00:48:58,250 --> 00:49:00,636


Fred Melamed: So I said, well, most people must be Jewish.



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Fred Melamed: I learned, i think, in my second year of



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00:49:06,116 --> 00:49:08,682


Fred Melamed: college, that no, it didn't take me that



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00:49:08,722 --> 00:49:10,514


Fred Melamed: long that most people were not Jewish.



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00:49:12,153 --> 00:49:14,979


Fred Melamed: But I, you know, strong feelings is what I



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00:49:15,019 --> 00:49:15,761


Fred Melamed: think about Judaism.



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00:49:16,610 --> 00:49:17,655


Fred Melamed: That's my real association with it.



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00:49:17,810 --> 00:49:19,033


Marc Preston: That's a wonderful articulation.



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00:49:19,073 --> 00:49:19,876


Marc Preston: I think that's perfect.



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Fred Melamed: Yeah, Who was it?



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00:49:22,993 --> 00:49:24,458


Fred Melamed: Oh God, what's her name?



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00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:27,577


Fred Melamed: She was a famous wit from the Algonquin



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00:49:27,918 --> 00:49:28,499


Fred Melamed: Roundtable.



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00:49:29,110 --> 00:49:29,914


Fred Melamed: I can't think of her name.



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00:49:30,450 --> 00:49:31,896


Fred Melamed: One of your listeners will know, Oh God.



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00:49:33,774 --> 00:49:35,531


Fred Melamed: Anyway, she was half Jewish And this was in



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00:49:35,551 --> 00:49:37,956


Fred Melamed: the 20s, when the Jews were a relatively



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00:49:37,976 --> 00:49:43,315


Fred Melamed: smaller part of the Jewish community, The



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00:49:43,376 --> 00:49:45,220


Fred Melamed: makeup of the New York intelligentsia.



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00:49:46,690 --> 00:49:49,839


Fred Melamed: And she was asked what are Jews actually



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00:49:49,919 --> 00:49:50,140


Fred Melamed: like?



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00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:52,496


Fred Melamed: And she said Jews are just like everybody



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00:49:52,576 --> 00:49:53,639


Fred Melamed: else, only more so.



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Marc Preston: That's exactly the truth.



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00:49:59,130 --> 00:50:00,272


Marc Preston: You know, whenever that phrase people use



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00:50:00,332 --> 00:50:02,596


Marc Preston: now the kids use a lot, now going oh, she's



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00:50:02,716 --> 00:50:03,217


Marc Preston: a lot.



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00:50:03,537 --> 00:50:04,739


Marc Preston: You know that phrase is like what I was



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00:50:04,759 --> 00:50:06,141


Marc Preston: like yeah, that's my phrase, or extra.



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00:50:06,382 --> 00:50:06,882


Announcer: She's extra.



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00:50:07,123 --> 00:50:07,604


Marc Preston: That's what it is.



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00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:09,755


Marc Preston: That's my family right there.



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00:50:09,775 --> 00:50:10,638


Marc Preston: There's a whole lot of extra.



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00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:12,835


Marc Preston: There is a recovery time I need after any



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00:50:12,875 --> 00:50:16,192


Marc Preston: kind of family get together, But that you



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00:50:16,212 --> 00:50:17,055


Marc Preston: know to go back.



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00:50:17,115 --> 00:50:18,438


Marc Preston: You're mentioning something in the way you



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00:50:18,458 --> 00:50:20,391


Marc Preston: grew up, Do you think?



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00:50:21,173 --> 00:50:23,760


Marc Preston: I think we maybe had similarities in the



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00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,972


Marc Preston: way we grew up And I think it kind of



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00:50:25,012 --> 00:50:27,660


Marc Preston: breeds a people pleaser muscle.



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00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:30,510


Marc Preston: It gets, start, starts building in you, And



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00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:32,556


Marc Preston: I find that all the actors I know, the ones



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00:50:32,596 --> 00:50:35,250


Marc Preston: I speak with, the ones I chat with here I



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00:50:35,310 --> 00:50:36,914


Marc Preston: think that a lot of people go into



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00:50:36,954 --> 00:50:39,039


Marc Preston: entertainment have that people pleaser



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00:50:39,279 --> 00:50:41,832


Marc Preston: muscle pretty well developed And I don't



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00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:43,658


Marc Preston: know what came first chicken or the egg, I



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00:50:43,698 --> 00:50:45,213


Marc Preston: don't know But there are a lot of people in



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00:50:45,233 --> 00:50:49,247


Marc Preston: this business that do put, sometimes



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00:50:49,327 --> 00:50:50,813


Marc Preston: inordinately so, a lot of stock in what



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00:50:51,013 --> 00:50:51,716


Marc Preston: other people think.



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00:50:52,130 --> 00:50:53,676


Marc Preston: Do you notice that as well, or do you



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00:50:53,716 --> 00:50:53,937


Marc Preston: concur?



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Fred Melamed: Yes, I do think that's endemic to our



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00:50:56,516 --> 00:50:56,978


Fred Melamed: profession.



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00:50:57,038 --> 00:50:57,780


Fred Melamed: I mean, think about it.



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00:50:58,050 --> 00:50:59,494


Fred Melamed: You have to have people, strangers make you



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00:50:59,535 --> 00:51:00,297


Fred Melamed: feel that you're okay.



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00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:02,534


Fred Melamed: Right, they're all strangers in the



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00:51:02,574 --> 00:51:02,815


Fred Melamed: audience.



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00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:05,314


Fred Melamed: I mean, i don't think everybody has that,



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00:51:05,355 --> 00:51:08,562


Fred Melamed: but I do think it's a common trait among



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00:51:08,582 --> 00:51:10,015


Fred Melamed: people that are drawn to this profession.



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00:51:10,570 --> 00:51:12,296


Fred Melamed: I also think that it's a noble profession.



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00:51:13,350 --> 00:51:18,082


Fred Melamed: I think examining life in an artistic



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00:51:18,503 --> 00:51:21,029


Fred Melamed: milieu is a worthwhile pursuit and it's not



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00:51:21,090 --> 00:51:22,294


Fred Melamed: easy as well, you know.



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00:51:23,050 --> 00:51:24,734


Fred Melamed: So I think both, in some ways it's very



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00:51:24,814 --> 00:51:28,362


Fred Melamed: silly, and I think there's a lot of vanity



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00:51:28,422 --> 00:51:31,916


Fred Melamed: and other foibles that come to my attention



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00:51:31,997 --> 00:51:34,703


Fred Melamed: frequently, both my own and other people's.



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00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:36,895


Fred Melamed: But I also think that it's beautiful that



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00:51:36,935 --> 00:51:38,861


Fred Melamed: people do it, because it's not easy and



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00:51:38,921 --> 00:51:39,021


Fred Melamed: it's.



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00:51:39,511 --> 00:51:42,780


Fred Melamed: You know, when you see a great work of art



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00:51:43,121 --> 00:51:46,730


Fred Melamed: of any kind, you go yeah, that's so true



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00:51:48,113 --> 00:51:50,279


Fred Melamed: about something or other in life.



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Fred Melamed: To me there's a test, a three-prong test,



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00:51:56,583 --> 00:51:59,070


Fred Melamed: to establish whether there's greatness in a



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00:51:59,091 --> 00:51:59,572


Fred Melamed: work of art.



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00:52:01,090 --> 00:52:02,937


Fred Melamed: Thing one is that it has to be true.



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00:52:03,050 --> 00:52:04,314


Fred Melamed: You have to look at it and go, oh, that's



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00:52:04,435 --> 00:52:04,936


Fred Melamed: really true.



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Fred Melamed: Thing two is it has to be surprising.



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Fred Melamed: Even though it's true, it has to be



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00:52:10,153 --> 00:52:11,898


Fred Melamed: something that you haven't really thought



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00:52:11,958 --> 00:52:14,095


Fred Melamed: of or seen in that way before.



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00:52:15,010 --> 00:52:16,513


Fred Melamed: And thing three is that even though it



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00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:19,079


Fred Melamed: surprises you, it has to have its own



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00:52:19,179 --> 00:52:20,102


Fred Melamed: internal logic.



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Fred Melamed: It can't be quirky for the sake of being



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00:52:22,938 --> 00:52:23,319


Fred Melamed: quirky.



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00:52:23,410 --> 00:52:23,931


Fred Melamed: It has to have.



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00:52:24,392 --> 00:52:26,938


Fred Melamed: There has to be something innately right



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00:52:26,978 --> 00:52:28,542


Fred Melamed: about it, even though it has surprised you.



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Fred Melamed: So any great work to me has those kind of



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00:52:32,577 --> 00:52:35,222


Fred Melamed: three simultaneous qualities.



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Fred Melamed: I love that.



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Marc Preston: That kind of leads to why something may



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00:52:38,682 --> 00:52:39,908


Marc Preston: stick with you when you watch a great



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00:52:39,928 --> 00:52:40,330


Marc Preston: performance.



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00:52:40,430 --> 00:52:41,674


Marc Preston: And my daughter and I were watching.



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00:52:42,055 --> 00:52:43,338


Marc Preston: Going back to Sam Rockwell, there was a



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00:52:43,398 --> 00:52:46,387


Marc Preston: film he was in Steve Carell was in it as



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00:52:46,407 --> 00:52:48,952


Marc Preston: well The Way, Way Back, And basically it's



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00:52:49,053 --> 00:52:51,137


Marc Preston: really about a kid whose mother is dating



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00:52:51,658 --> 00:52:52,340


Marc Preston: Steve Carell.



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00:52:53,970 --> 00:52:55,456


Marc Preston: It's kind of a coming of age kind of a



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00:52:55,536 --> 00:52:57,277


Marc Preston: thing And I looked at it as like and one



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00:52:57,297 --> 00:52:59,289


Marc Preston: thing I loved is any kid that grows up and



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00:52:59,309 --> 00:53:00,834


Marc Preston: things are a little tumultuous at that age.



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00:53:00,854 --> 00:53:02,317


Marc Preston: You're kind of looking for a mentor or



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00:53:02,378 --> 00:53:06,054


Marc Preston: someone that is quirky and off-center, as



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00:53:06,094 --> 00:53:06,835


Marc Preston: they happen to be.



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00:53:07,457 --> 00:53:11,712


Marc Preston: They kind of give you kind of a beacon or a



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00:53:11,833 --> 00:53:13,694


Marc Preston: north star to follow, And he was this



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00:53:14,098 --> 00:53:15,410


Marc Preston: really great character.



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00:53:15,570 --> 00:53:17,156


Marc Preston: It kind of invigorated this kid, got the



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00:53:17,196 --> 00:53:18,179


Marc Preston: kid come out of his shell.



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00:53:18,290 --> 00:53:20,490


Marc Preston: I'm going that's the character he played.



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00:53:20,490 --> 00:53:22,656


Marc Preston: I was like that's when I was that age who I



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00:53:22,817 --> 00:53:24,281


Marc Preston: wish I would have met somebody with that.



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00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:28,688


Marc Preston: So the truth in that, I think that's the



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00:53:28,728 --> 00:53:29,070


Marc Preston: other side.



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00:53:29,130 --> 00:53:31,492


Marc Preston: I think great performance It resonates with



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00:53:31,512 --> 00:53:33,670


Marc Preston: different people in different ways, But



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00:53:33,690 --> 00:53:35,177


Marc Preston: they all love it for a different thing.



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00:53:35,290 --> 00:53:37,951


Marc Preston: Like you said, the Godfather, Some people



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00:53:38,051 --> 00:53:40,538


Marc Preston: are just like the aesthetic of it or just



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00:53:40,839 --> 00:53:42,331


Marc Preston: the way you feel watching it, And some



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00:53:42,351 --> 00:53:43,895


Marc Preston: people are really into the dialogue, but



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00:53:43,915 --> 00:53:45,439


Marc Preston: they all you know, you all appreciate it.



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00:53:46,310 --> 00:53:47,874


Marc Preston: Talking about the quirkiness of the people



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00:53:48,014 --> 00:53:50,660


Marc Preston: in our industry and going, excuse me, into



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00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,202


Marc Preston: reboot.



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00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:54,235


Marc Preston: I know the general premise of it, but could



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00:53:54,295 --> 00:53:58,043


Marc Preston: you explain what is reboot exactly?



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00:53:58,170 --> 00:53:59,654


Marc Preston: Because this has a great cast and I kind of



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00:53:59,674 --> 00:54:02,691


Marc Preston: want to know what we're going to expect and



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00:54:02,731 --> 00:54:03,334


Marc Preston: checking it out.



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00:54:03,890 --> 00:54:08,700


Fred Melamed: The idea is that there was a show that was



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00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,328


Fred Melamed: popular in the early aughts kind of a la



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00:54:12,969 --> 00:54:14,734


Fred Melamed: friends kind of show that you know, a show



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00:54:14,754 --> 00:54:20,177


Fred Melamed: with a large cast And it's successful for



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00:54:20,217 --> 00:54:21,400


Fred Melamed: quite a long time and then it goes off the



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00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,755


Fred Melamed: air And then Hulu tries to get all these



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00:54:24,815 --> 00:54:28,103


Fred Melamed: people back together to relaunch the show



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00:54:28,210 --> 00:54:29,775


Fred Melamed: And of course, many years have elapsed and



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00:54:30,176 --> 00:54:31,640


Fred Melamed: some of them had affairs with each other,



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00:54:31,770 --> 00:54:33,095


Fred Melamed: some of them can't stand each other.



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00:54:34,330 --> 00:54:36,561


Fred Melamed: You know there's all these different forces



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00:54:36,622 --> 00:54:38,250


Fred Melamed: at work with these people that have known



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00:54:38,371 --> 00:54:39,475


Fred Melamed: each other for this length of time.



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00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:41,336


Fred Melamed: So they try and remount the show.



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00:54:41,630 --> 00:54:42,774


Fred Melamed: That's what that show is all about.



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00:54:44,490 --> 00:54:46,654


Fred Melamed: It has a wonderful cast.



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00:54:47,736 --> 00:54:50,321


Fred Melamed: Paul Reiser is in it, judy Greer, rachel



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00:54:50,362 --> 00:54:53,814


Fred Melamed: Bloom, keegan-michael Key lots of really



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00:54:53,854 --> 00:54:58,263


Fred Melamed: good people, rose Abdu many, many friends



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00:54:58,303 --> 00:54:58,704


Fred Melamed: of mine.



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00:54:59,090 --> 00:55:00,053


Marc Preston: And Paul Reiser, by the way.



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00:55:00,113 --> 00:55:02,940


Marc Preston: what a great guy to see showing up more and



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00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,100


Marc Preston: more.



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00:55:04,712 --> 00:55:06,355


Marc Preston: God, he was on something I think it was



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00:55:06,375 --> 00:55:06,977


Marc Preston: called Red.



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00:55:07,297 --> 00:55:09,842


Marc Preston: it was an, i think an Amazon show Red Oaks



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00:55:09,903 --> 00:55:10,484


Marc Preston: or something.



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00:55:10,570 --> 00:55:12,336


Marc Preston: Oh God, i should have looked this up, but



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00:55:12,777 --> 00:55:13,519


Marc Preston: Oh, i know what you mean.



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00:55:13,740 --> 00:55:15,907


Fred Melamed: Oh, gosh, jennifer Gray was on it.



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00:55:16,532 --> 00:55:17,557


Marc Preston: I can't remember the name of it, but I know.



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00:55:17,791 --> 00:55:18,936


Fred Melamed: Yes, i know the show you're talking about.



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00:55:19,271 --> 00:55:20,435


Fred Melamed: I can't remember the name of it, but yes,



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00:55:20,957 --> 00:55:21,779


Fred Melamed: he does a lot of stuff.



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00:55:21,819 --> 00:55:23,274


Fred Melamed: Now I've known him for a while.



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00:55:23,314 --> 00:55:24,037


Fred Melamed: He's a great guy.



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00:55:24,057 --> 00:55:24,779


Fred Melamed: I really enjoy him.



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00:55:25,330 --> 00:55:26,233


Fred Melamed: He plays on the show.



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00:55:27,470 --> 00:55:30,276


Fred Melamed: One of the conceits of the show is that



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00:55:30,657 --> 00:55:32,862


Fred Melamed: they hire two generations of writers.



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00:55:33,830 --> 00:55:36,861


Fred Melamed: There's an older generation, and I'm one of



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00:55:36,901 --> 00:55:38,407


Fred Melamed: those older generation of writers And then



Speaker:

00:55:38,447 --> 00:55:39,290


Fred Melamed: there's a younger generation.



Speaker:

00:55:39,330 --> 00:55:41,616


Fred Melamed: They hire three very young writers, kind of



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00:55:41,676 --> 00:55:44,312


Fred Melamed: just out of school writers, and we don't.



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00:55:44,754 --> 00:55:47,164


Fred Melamed: We come from entirely different realities



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00:55:47,626 --> 00:55:48,991


Fred Melamed: and kind of don't understand each other at



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00:55:49,031 --> 00:55:49,151


Fred Melamed: all.



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00:55:49,171 --> 00:55:50,534


Fred Melamed: But the network wants to keep the show



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00:55:51,898 --> 00:55:54,632


Fred Melamed: current, even though it features a somewhat



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00:55:54,693 --> 00:55:55,315


Fred Melamed: older cast.



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00:55:56,130 --> 00:56:01,269


Fred Melamed: So Paul Reiser plays the sort of head of



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00:56:01,289 --> 00:56:05,063


Fred Melamed: the older writers And so I get to do a lot



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00:56:05,083 --> 00:56:05,244


Fred Melamed: with him.



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00:56:05,506 --> 00:56:07,914


Fred Melamed: So you know, for me that was I've known him



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00:56:07,934 --> 00:56:09,610


Fred Melamed: for a while Very enjoyable for me to work



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00:56:09,630 --> 00:56:09,891


Fred Melamed: with him.



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00:56:10,305 --> 00:56:11,950


Marc Preston: I mean the cast, i mean it looks like so



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00:56:11,991 --> 00:56:13,114


Marc Preston: much fun to watch.



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00:56:13,627 --> 00:56:15,983


Marc Preston: And I know again WandaVision for my son.



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00:56:16,023 --> 00:56:18,431


Marc Preston: We had such One thing I loved about that



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00:56:18,511 --> 00:56:18,812


Marc Preston: show.



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00:56:19,795 --> 00:56:22,492


Marc Preston: It was I don't have any real background



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00:56:22,532 --> 00:56:23,215


Marc Preston: with the Marvel thing.



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00:56:23,345 --> 00:56:24,991


Marc Preston: I had zero idea where that show was going,



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00:56:25,151 --> 00:56:25,894


Marc Preston: none whatsoever.



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00:56:26,325 --> 00:56:28,871


Marc Preston: So having It was kind of nice to see,



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00:56:29,593 --> 00:56:33,553


Marc Preston: almost in a Kind of like you know, i love



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00:56:33,594 --> 00:56:36,148


Marc Preston: Lucy-ish kind of that era of TV And have



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00:56:36,188 --> 00:56:37,132


Marc Preston: you show up black and white.



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00:56:37,526 --> 00:56:38,850


Marc Preston: It's like this is I just want to keep



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00:56:38,890 --> 00:56:39,171


Marc Preston: watching.



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00:56:39,191 --> 00:56:40,235


Marc Preston: This is so cool, you know.



Speaker:

00:56:41,168 --> 00:56:42,974


Marc Preston: And then the show evolved into what it was.



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00:56:43,325 --> 00:56:45,412


Marc Preston: But it's, i know that whole Marvel Universe



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00:56:45,472 --> 00:56:46,134


Marc Preston: thing is a.



Speaker:

00:56:47,012 --> 00:56:48,305


Marc Preston: You know, you've now got your stripes.



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00:56:48,949 --> 00:56:50,560


Marc Preston: You're officially in the Marvel Universe.



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00:56:50,641 --> 00:56:54,554


Fred Melamed: Yes, And I have to say I admire Kevin Feige.



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00:56:55,968 --> 00:56:57,032


Fred Melamed: You know that was a risky.



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00:56:58,168 --> 00:57:02,144


Fred Melamed: You know Marvel has its own very loyal fan



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00:57:02,164 --> 00:57:05,273


Fred Melamed: base And to do something kind of that kind



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00:57:05,314 --> 00:57:10,554


Fred Melamed: of way out, so risky for that fan base, i



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00:57:10,594 --> 00:57:12,181


Fred Melamed: admire him doing that And I think My



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00:57:12,241 --> 00:57:13,305


Fred Melamed: impression was that he succeeded at it.



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00:57:13,687 --> 00:57:16,144


Fred Melamed: You know, i think he did a really good job



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00:57:16,164 --> 00:57:18,392


Fred Melamed: with it And you know I'm proud of that show



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00:57:18,412 --> 00:57:19,114


Fred Melamed: and I like that show.



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00:57:19,526 --> 00:57:21,011


Marc Preston: Again, i really appreciate you spending



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00:57:21,071 --> 00:57:22,034


Marc Preston: time with me here.



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00:57:22,425 --> 00:57:24,271


Marc Preston: I always wrap up all interviews.



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00:57:24,411 --> 00:57:25,815


Marc Preston: I call my seven questions Just a quick



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00:57:25,855 --> 00:57:26,136


Marc Preston: seven.



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00:57:26,566 --> 00:57:28,052


Marc Preston: Kind of It's a little fun to get to know



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00:57:28,072 --> 00:57:29,931


Marc Preston: you, kind of in addition to what we've been



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00:57:29,972 --> 00:57:30,213


Marc Preston: doing.



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00:57:30,305 --> 00:57:32,253


Marc Preston: But I always ask the first question in.



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00:57:32,666 --> 00:57:34,526


Marc Preston: I'm a food guy so I always ask it is what



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00:57:34,646 --> 00:57:37,193


Marc Preston: is your favorite comfort food?



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00:57:37,454 --> 00:57:39,510


Marc Preston: That thing that just You maybe had a bad



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00:57:39,530 --> 00:57:40,293


Marc Preston: day or an amazing day.



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00:57:40,345 --> 00:57:41,630


Marc Preston: You've got to sit down and have some of it.



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00:57:42,325 --> 00:57:42,907


Fred Melamed: I'll tell you the truth.



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00:57:42,968 --> 00:57:44,012


Fred Melamed: You know I have a.



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00:57:44,807 --> 00:57:46,616


Fred Melamed: I've been eating too much and had a problem



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00:57:46,737 --> 00:57:48,245


Fred Melamed: controlling my weight for many, many years,



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00:57:48,746 --> 00:57:51,014


Fred Melamed: and for the last two and a half years or so,



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00:57:51,810 --> 00:57:53,042


Fred Melamed: i've been doing not keto but something



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00:57:53,063 --> 00:57:53,305


Fred Melamed: close to it.



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00:57:53,948 --> 00:57:57,285


Fred Melamed: So I don't eat bread, potatoes, pasta.



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00:57:58,174 --> 00:58:01,094


Fred Melamed: I haven't eaten sugar in 17 years, so a lot



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00:58:01,114 --> 00:58:02,581


Fred Melamed: of the things that I would say are my real



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00:58:02,662 --> 00:58:05,092


Fred Melamed: comfort favorite foods I have no longer eat.



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00:58:06,370 --> 00:58:12,361


Fred Melamed: But yeah, but in a perfect world, in a



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00:58:12,381 --> 00:58:14,368


Fred Melamed: world where I didn't have to worry Meaning



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00:58:14,408 --> 00:58:16,374


Fred Melamed: I didn't have to worry about how fat I was.



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00:58:18,598 --> 00:58:19,143


Fred Melamed: I like crap.



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00:58:20,629 --> 00:58:21,051


Announcer: I like to eat.



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00:58:21,091 --> 00:58:22,455


Fred Melamed: Doritos with dip.



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00:58:24,649 --> 00:58:26,153


Fred Melamed: No, i like you know some people like real



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00:58:26,213 --> 00:58:27,036


Fred Melamed: food, i like junk.



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00:58:27,648 --> 00:58:29,063


Fred Melamed: I like to eat Doritos with dip.



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00:58:30,315 --> 00:58:31,224


Fred Melamed: I love brownies.



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00:58:32,194 --> 00:58:33,143


Fred Melamed: I love Rocky Road ice cream.



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00:58:35,054 --> 00:58:36,983


Fred Melamed: I'd say my most delightful thing that I



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00:58:37,024 --> 00:58:38,855


Fred Melamed: could eat, that I can imagine eating, is



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00:58:39,681 --> 00:58:42,733


Fred Melamed: Rocky Road ice cream with bananas and hot



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00:58:42,793 --> 00:58:43,295


Fred Melamed: fudge in it.



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00:58:44,251 --> 00:58:46,285


Marc Preston: Oh my God that does sound good.



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00:58:46,871 --> 00:58:48,063


Marc Preston: Now I'm curious what's your favorite deli



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00:58:48,083 --> 00:58:48,305


Marc Preston: item, though?



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00:58:48,988 --> 00:58:50,426


Marc Preston: Because I got to ask because you know Well,



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00:58:50,849 --> 00:58:51,996


Marc Preston: do you mean strictly deli?



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00:58:52,278 --> 00:58:53,305


Marc Preston: Oh like, if you're going to go into deli,



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00:58:53,345 --> 00:58:54,550


Marc Preston: let's say you're only going to Katz's in



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00:58:54,610 --> 00:58:57,707


Marc Preston: New York, at Cantor's on Fairfax, what are



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00:58:57,727 --> 00:58:58,751


Marc Preston: you ordering there?



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00:58:59,305 --> 00:59:00,548


Marc Preston: Let's say that somebody's given you a pass,



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00:59:00,888 --> 00:59:01,931


Marc Preston: a massive cheat day.



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00:59:01,991 --> 00:59:02,412


Fred Melamed: What would you get?



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00:59:02,432 --> 00:59:03,815


Fred Melamed: Well, because, okay, that's important,



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00:59:05,526 --> 00:59:06,891


Fred Melamed: because I can't eat rye bread anymore.



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00:59:07,305 --> 00:59:08,812


Marc Preston: So without rye bread, delis, are you know?



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00:59:09,546 --> 00:59:11,112


Marc Preston: Yeah, I feel for you on that.



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00:59:11,325 --> 00:59:14,175


Fred Melamed: So let's say that I don't know.



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00:59:15,409 --> 00:59:17,094


Fred Melamed: There's an asteroid heading for planet



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00:59:17,134 --> 00:59:17,275


Fred Melamed: Earth.



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00:59:19,331 --> 00:59:20,855


Marc Preston: You would dark on that but okay, if I get



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00:59:20,875 --> 00:59:22,509


Marc Preston: your deli, then we're going to do that,



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00:59:22,529 --> 00:59:22,690


Marc Preston: yeah.



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00:59:24,807 --> 00:59:26,974


Fred Melamed: So in that case, not only are we all going



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00:59:26,994 --> 00:59:27,988


Fred Melamed: to die, but I could probably get what I



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00:59:28,048 --> 00:59:29,032


Fred Melamed: wanted in the deli for free.



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00:59:29,454 --> 00:59:37,809


Fred Melamed: Okay, so I would order a sandwich that is



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00:59:38,331 --> 00:59:43,706


Fred Melamed: part pastrami, part corned beef, with



Speaker:

00:59:45,209 --> 00:59:50,470


Fred Melamed: coleslaw on it, grilled Grilled, failing



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00:59:50,510 --> 00:59:53,446


Fred Melamed: that, something that's not so deli, but I



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00:59:53,526 --> 00:59:55,174


Fred Melamed: love grilled cheese with bacon.



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00:59:55,275 --> 00:59:56,601


Fred Melamed: Also not whole foods food, but I really



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00:59:56,622 --> 00:59:57,285


Fred Melamed: like grilled cheese with bacon.



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00:59:57,526 --> 00:59:58,731


Marc Preston: Yeah, i'd say I've.



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00:59:59,827 --> 01:00:02,589


Marc Preston: I'm just like I need My daughters my



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01:00:02,629 --> 01:00:03,793


Marc Preston: youngest is just like me We're not.



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01:00:04,325 --> 01:00:06,466


Marc Preston: Pasta shows up on our menu occasionally but



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01:00:06,506 --> 01:00:08,520


Marc Preston: it's like, yeah, pastas, breads, trying to



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01:00:08,540 --> 01:00:09,305


Marc Preston: get away from all that.



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01:00:09,507 --> 01:00:11,907


Marc Preston: But when I am at Cantor's I'm always.



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01:00:11,927 --> 01:00:13,826


Marc Preston: They got that mishmash, matzbal soup,



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01:00:13,866 --> 01:00:15,250


Marc Preston: krapeluch and all that kind of stuff.



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01:00:15,490 --> 01:00:16,673


Marc Preston: Oh, yes, and I always get the.



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01:00:17,195 --> 01:00:21,591


Marc Preston: Nobody ever gets The harder salami sandwich,



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01:00:21,631 --> 01:00:22,973


Marc Preston: the lobster On rye.



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01:00:23,194 --> 01:00:23,534


Fred Melamed: I'm sorry.



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01:00:23,815 --> 01:00:25,538


Fred Melamed: Oh yes, that's good, That's very good.



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01:00:26,305 --> 01:00:27,127


Fred Melamed: I think I see nobody ever orders the



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01:00:27,167 --> 01:00:28,170


Fred Melamed: lobster at Cantor's.



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01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:28,932


Marc Preston: They have lobster.



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01:00:28,952 --> 01:00:30,054


Marc Preston: Yes, that's.



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01:00:31,767 --> 01:00:33,091


Fred Melamed: Dead at the end of the menu.



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01:00:33,352 --> 01:00:34,034


Fred Melamed: Nobody orders it.



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01:00:34,386 --> 01:00:36,103


Marc Preston: Same lobsters in there for 20 years from



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Marc Preston: the tank.



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Marc Preston: It's got great hair now, yeah, But yeah,



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Marc Preston: that's now.



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Marc Preston: I'm hungry Now, if you're going to sit down,



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Marc Preston: next question Oh, let me.



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Fred Melamed: No, i'm sorry to make my answers so long.



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Fred Melamed: So, given my current thing, the way they



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Fred Melamed: actually do eat.



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Fred Melamed: My favorite food to eat is Greek salad.



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Marc Preston: I love Greek salad Yeah, i like that too.



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Marc Preston: We do a.



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Marc Preston: Well, you can't do it.



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Marc Preston: We do something with like a orzo pasta.



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Marc Preston: We make a Greek salad like that, but yeah,



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Marc Preston: again, it's pasta, so you can't do that.



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Marc Preston: Now, if you are going to, let's say, go to



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Marc Preston: your favorite coffee place, you're going to



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Marc Preston: sit down with three people, living or not,



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Marc Preston: and you're going to talk story for a few



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Marc Preston: hours.



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Marc Preston: Who would you like to sit down with?



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Marc Preston: Three people?



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Marc Preston: just for great conversation.



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Marc Preston: Now, when you say talk story.



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Fred Melamed: Are we living in our conversation to



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Fred Melamed: strictly things about story?



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Marc Preston: Oh, no, no, no, no.



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Marc Preston: I mean kind of like you're just talking



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Marc Preston: about life.



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Marc Preston: You're talking about what?



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Marc Preston: Anybody I could meet Yeah anybody you could



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Marc Preston: sit down with.



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Marc Preston: You feel like it would be just a great



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Marc Preston: conversation.



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Marc Preston: Three people maybe there's the chemistry of



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Marc Preston: those everybody being together you think



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Marc Preston: would be educational and fun.



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Fred Melamed: Well can they be If they can be disparate.



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Fred Melamed: entirely different people.



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Marc Preston: Oh yeah.



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Fred Melamed: I would say from the modern world, my three



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Fred Melamed: favorite people that are the most



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Fred Melamed: interesting and have affected my life the



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Fred Melamed: most.



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Fred Melamed: One is an author called Patrick O'Brien.



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Fred Melamed: Wrote a series of books about the



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Fred Melamed: Napoleonic Wars, my favorite author of all



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Fred Melamed: time, my favorite artist of any kind of all



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Fred Melamed: time.



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Fred Melamed: Patrick O'Brien was one.



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Fred Melamed: The other would be Donald Fagan, who I've



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Fred Melamed: actually met, of Steely Dan, my favorite



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Fred Melamed: producer and composer and producer of music.



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Fred Melamed: And the third would probably be Steve Jobs,



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Fred Melamed: who fascinates me as an individual and



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Fred Melamed: because of his accomplishments.



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Fred Melamed: Now, none of these people.



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Fred Melamed: These are all sticky individuals that are



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Fred Melamed: not warm and fuzzy or fun to be with for a



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Fred Melamed: lot of people, but they're all fascinating



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Fred Melamed: to me.



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Fred Melamed: If we're allowed to go back further,



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Fred Melamed: einstein fascinates me, although I don't



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Fred Melamed: know.



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Fred Melamed: I wouldn't be able to understand him.



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Fred Melamed: Let's see Aristotle, einstein and I don't



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Fred Melamed: know who the third one would be.



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Fred Melamed: I have to think about it more.



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Marc Preston: I like that.



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Marc Preston: Aristotle, a Warner Earhart from Est.



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Marc Preston: There we go.



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Marc Preston: Who again?



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Marc Preston: I'm sorry.



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Fred Melamed: Warner Earhart, the guy who invented Est.



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Marc Preston: Okay, yeah, you know it's funny.



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Marc Preston: When you said Aristotle, i started thinking



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Marc Preston: I was talking with my daughter.



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Marc Preston: We were in line getting a coffee and I said



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Marc Preston: something about a nickname that somebody



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Marc Preston: used to call me, marcus Aurelius kind of



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Marc Preston: joking, because she thought it'd be funny



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Marc Preston: if I was at the drive-through at the coffee



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Marc Preston: place.



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Marc Preston: That said Marco, and then she said maybe



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Marc Preston: they'll say Polo.



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Marc Preston: And I was like what's your name, should we



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Marc Preston: put on the coffee?



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Marc Preston: And I'm like I said let me tell you the



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Marc Preston: nicknames, we're just talking about it.



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Marc Preston: And she said who's Marcus Aurelius?



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Marc Preston: I said you've taken philosophy at the



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Marc Preston: college level and you don't know who that



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Marc Preston: is.



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Marc Preston: And she said you know, i'm not a coffee



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01:03:28,871 --> 01:03:29,692


Marc Preston: maker, you can't be, so I'm just giving her



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Marc Preston: a hard time.



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Marc Preston: So it's like my college kids are going to



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01:03:32,255 --> 01:03:33,817


Marc Preston: be smarter, that like more educated than me



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Marc Preston: very shortly.



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01:03:34,498 --> 01:03:36,080


Marc Preston: So it's like I'm like, oh, i know something



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Marc Preston: they don't Just to backtrack for a second.



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Fred Melamed: So when I go to the coffee place they ask



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01:03:39,884 --> 01:03:40,305


Fred Melamed: for your name.



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Fred Melamed: You know you go to the famous coffee place



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Fred Melamed: which I won't mention.



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Fred Melamed: So I always say my name is Hansen and they



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Fred Melamed: go, hansen, and everybody turns around.



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Marc Preston: I'm going to do that Because my youngest



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Marc Preston: she it's like this battle, like I don't try



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Marc Preston: to humiliate her ever, but I try to be like



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Marc Preston: you know, do something goofy where she just



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Marc Preston: rolls her eyes.



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Marc Preston: If she rolls her eyes, it's like a mission



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01:04:03,087 --> 01:04:03,990


Marc Preston: accomplished for me.



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Announcer: You win.



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Fred Melamed: Exactly.



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Marc Preston: Now, if now let's go back when you were



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Marc Preston: younger, who was your first celebrity crush?



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01:04:10,667 --> 01:04:11,230


Marc Preston: You know someone.



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Marc Preston: You just were like Haley.



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Fred Melamed: Mills No Love Haley Mills.



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Marc Preston: She's on a top three next to Olivia



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Marc Preston: Newton-John, who just my heart breaks, and



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Marc Preston: I tell my daughters.



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Marc Preston: I said Haley and Olivia were on the list



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Marc Preston: for girls' names.



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Marc Preston: I went with Lily and Emma, but Haley Mills



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Marc Preston: oh my God.



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Fred Melamed: Haley Mills and Haley Mills and Maureen



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01:04:33,345 --> 01:04:35,976


Fred Melamed: Maureen O'Sullivan from the early Tarzan



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Fred Melamed: movies.



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Fred Melamed: I used to watch Tarzan.



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Marc Preston: She played Jane No but what was your



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01:04:39,578 --> 01:04:39,739


Marc Preston: favorite?



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Fred Melamed: Haley Mills movie though.



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Marc Preston: I think that's kind of like what phase was



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01:04:43,352 --> 01:04:45,184


Marc Preston: she like a parent trap, or was it a parent



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Marc Preston: trap?



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Marc Preston: I got you.



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01:04:47,661 --> 01:04:49,453


Marc Preston: I've never heard somebody say yay, you're



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01:04:49,473 --> 01:04:51,043


Marc Preston: my mishpocha, i like that.



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01:04:51,446 --> 01:04:53,580


Marc Preston: So now, if you're going to be going on an



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01:04:53,641 --> 01:04:56,171


Marc Preston: exotic island for a year, it's somewhere



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Marc Preston: you're going to enjoy being.



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Marc Preston: But you're there for a year no streaming,



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01:04:58,649 --> 01:05:00,906


Marc Preston: no ability to watch anything but you can



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01:05:00,926 --> 01:05:07,174


Marc Preston: bring a DVD of a movie, cd of an album, and



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Marc Preston: some people I speak with they don't really



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Marc Preston: watch movies that much, ironically, but



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01:05:10,882 --> 01:05:11,305


Marc Preston: they read a lot.



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01:05:11,666 --> 01:05:14,426


Marc Preston: So if you'd prefer a book, go for it, but



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Marc Preston: basically an album and a movie or a book



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01:05:17,416 --> 01:05:18,305


Marc Preston: that you would like to bring with you.



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Fred Melamed: Well, i would bring I'm cheating, but I



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Fred Melamed: would bring the collected works of Patrick



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Fred Melamed: O'Brien, which is 21 novels which I have



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Fred Melamed: been reading and listening to.



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Fred Melamed: I've listened to the recorded versions of



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Fred Melamed: them since 1990.



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Fred Melamed: So what is that now?



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Fred Melamed: Whatever that is, since 19, that's 32 years.



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Fred Melamed: I've listened to them all and read them all



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Fred Melamed: at least a dozen times each one.



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Fred Melamed: but they're so rich, they're so full of



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Fred Melamed: great stuff that I never tire of them.



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Fred Melamed: So that would be my literary pick for music.



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Fred Melamed: I would pick either.



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Fred Melamed: I would probably pick.



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Fred Melamed: It's tough.



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Fred Melamed: I would either say Blue by Joni Mitchell,



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Fred Melamed: which to me is probably one of the greatest



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Fred Melamed: albums I've ever recorded, or I guess Asia



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Fred Melamed: by Steely Dan.



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Marc Preston: I was gonna say Steely Dan has to be in



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Marc Preston: there somewhere, like you mentioned.



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Fred Melamed: My favorite movie of all time is an obscure



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Fred Melamed: movie to most people.



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Fred Melamed: It's a movie called Great Expectations,



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Fred Melamed: made by David Lean in 1946.



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Fred Melamed: Absolutely the greatest movie I've ever



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Fred Melamed: made to me, really.



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Marc Preston: I love when people answer these questions



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Marc Preston: because it gives me things to go watch and



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Marc Preston: stream or things to cook.



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Marc Preston: Also, sometimes people would be able to



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Marc Preston: favorite comfort food is that thing?



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Marc Preston: speaking with someone the other day that it



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Marc Preston: was a thing when they were a poor actor



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Marc Preston: off-Broadway, and it was that thing that



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Marc Preston: they made with very little money, but they



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Marc Preston: still love eating, i was like I need to



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Marc Preston: make that, so I get educated here as well.



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Marc Preston: You get some ramen and you put some ketchup



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Marc Preston: in it.



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Marc Preston: Oh, he was like exotic.



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Marc Preston: It was cheap though, but he threw beans in



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Marc Preston: it and it turned into just something that



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Marc Preston: my inner college kid was down with it.



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Marc Preston: Now next question if you're gonna be From



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Marc Preston: the time you get up to the time you get to



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Marc Preston: bed, if you're gonna say this is a perfect



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Marc Preston: day, what component parts of that day would



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Marc Preston: you like to see occur?



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Marc Preston: What's part of a perfect day for you?



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Fred Melamed: Well, first of all, it can't be summertime.



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Marc Preston: I hate the summer it's too hot Really, even



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Marc Preston: where you live, where it's not.



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Fred Melamed: Really.



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Marc Preston: No, okay, okay, Where I live is a hot hell.



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Fred Melamed: I live in the San Fernando Valley.



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Fred Melamed: It's 104 years away.



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Fred Melamed: 104 is awful.



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Fred Melamed: Okay, get up, have a wonderful breakfast,



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Fred Melamed: not too heavy though lightish breakfast.



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Fred Melamed: Do my 10 miles on my bike, which I do most



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Fred Melamed: days.



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Fred Melamed: I don't exercise bike, i do 10 miles.



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Marc Preston: Well, a stationary bike, or you actually



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Marc Preston: get up right around the neighborhood.



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Fred Melamed: I do not get out when it's 104.



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Fred Melamed: Okay, yeah, true, true, i'm going a little



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Fred Melamed: stationary bike in my and looking at movies



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Fred Melamed: or television shows.



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Fred Melamed: I do that exercising.



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Fred Melamed: Then, if it were perfect day, I would be



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Fred Melamed: with my kids and I would drive them to a.



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Fred Melamed: I would drive them to where there's water.



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Fred Melamed: Either there's a beautiful lake by where we



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Fred Melamed: live, or maybe we go to the beach somewhere.



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Fred Melamed: We'd like to go to Malibu, if it's not hot,



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Fred Melamed: hang out there.



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Fred Melamed: Or sometimes we go to museums.



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Fred Melamed: I love to go to museums too.



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Fred Melamed: Part of my family is English the cousin



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Fred Melamed: who's a countess, who lives in England, and



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Fred Melamed: we love to visit her also.



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Fred Melamed: So maybe we would spend a day in England



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Fred Melamed: with her.



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Fred Melamed: I love to be in nature for part of the time.



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Fred Melamed: And then what would we do?



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Fred Melamed: We would come back, we would have a



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Fred Melamed: sumptuous dinner with good wine, and then I



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Fred Melamed: would play some video games with my kids,



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Fred Melamed: which I enjoy tremendously, and then we'd



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Fred Melamed: end off watching a great movie, maybe the



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Fred Melamed: movie that I mentioned to you, and then my



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Fred Melamed: kids would go off to sleep and I would



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Fred Melamed: retire to the bedroom with my beautiful and



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Fred Melamed: accommodating girlfriend.



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Fred Melamed: That sounds absolutely.



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Fred Melamed: That sounds more than delightful.



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Marc Preston: I'm very much the same way.



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Marc Preston: Now the last question I got.



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Marc Preston: Let's say you've got a DeLorean, you can go



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Marc Preston: back in time 16-year-old you, you're gonna



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Marc Preston: go back for a few minutes and have a little



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Marc Preston: chat with 16-year-old What piece of advice



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Marc Preston: or wisdom or knowledge or guidance would



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Marc Preston: you give yourself at 16?



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Fred Melamed: Gosh, i think I would say the same thing



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Fred Melamed: that everybody else says, or most other



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Fred Melamed: people say, which is have faith in yourself,



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Fred Melamed: you're gonna be okay.



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Fred Melamed: You're headed for good things.



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Fred Melamed: Trust your own instincts about things And



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Fred Melamed: try and be kind.



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Fred Melamed: Try and be kind.



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Fred Melamed: The world is full of people striving with



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Fred Melamed: all kinds of problems.



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Fred Melamed: And be kind to yourself and be kind to



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Fred Melamed: other people Might get your business to be



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Fred Melamed: kind.



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Fred Melamed: That's what I would tell myself.



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Fred Melamed: And you're gonna be okay.



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Fred Melamed: That's wonderful.



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Fred Melamed: I've heard many people say that.



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Marc Preston: Another thing I love is people say don't



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Marc Preston: wait, do it.



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Marc Preston: You know you're gonna be okay, do it That



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Marc Preston: thing you wanna do.



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Marc Preston: But kindness is something I've really tried



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Marc Preston: to instill in my kids.



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Marc Preston: You really just don't know, and I think



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Marc Preston: that, being a little older and you speak to



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Marc Preston: those people in high school, they thought,



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Marc Preston: oh, they had a perfect life, everything was



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Marc Preston: great, Everything was on paper.



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Fred Melamed: You go to high school.



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Fred Melamed: You're just a net.



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Fred Melamed: The people, yeah, The guys who go to high



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Fred Melamed: school.



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Fred Melamed: You're just a guy that owns a dodge



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Fred Melamed: dealership in town, All the people you



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Fred Melamed: think are gonna be the big successes.



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Fred Melamed: and never, it's never that way.



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Marc Preston: It's a strange peculiarity of life.



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Marc Preston: Again, i sincerely appreciate you, such a



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Marc Preston: mensch, by sharing your time with me.



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Marc Preston: I've wanted to chat for some time and I'm



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Marc Preston: so glad you have a new project coming out I



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Marc Preston: can talk about.



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Marc Preston: Have really a wonderful weekend And I look



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Marc Preston: forward to hopefully catching up down the



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Marc Preston: line with you, me too, and thanks for all



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Marc Preston: your kind words.



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Marc Preston: Well, there you go, fred Melamed.



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Marc Preston: What a great chat.



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Marc Preston: Really enjoyed the opportunity to connect



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Marc Preston: with a real mensch, as my people say, a



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Marc Preston: mensch.



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Marc Preston: Besides being a mensch, he's also a very



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Marc Preston: talented actor.



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Marc Preston: You can check him out Again on Reboot it is



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Marc Preston: on Hulu right now.



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Marc Preston: Really funny show, really enjoyed it.



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Marc Preston: And tell you, don't forget, everything's



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Marc Preston: story and craft is at storyandcraftpod.com.



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Marc Preston: All right, pop on over, find out whatever



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Marc Preston: you want to find out about the show.



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Marc Preston: Past episodes, learn a little bit more



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Marc Preston: about me if you want to do that, and don't



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Marc Preston: forget.



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Marc Preston: Next week, another great episode, the next



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Marc Preston: few weeks I mean, i know who's coming.



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Marc Preston: You're really going to enjoy it.



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Marc Preston: All right, that's it for me.



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Marc Preston: I'm going to go run, as always, to go grab



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Marc Preston: a bite to eat, because you know with me



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Marc Preston: it's always some shape, form or fashion



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Marc Preston: about food.



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Marc Preston: All right, there you go.



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Marc Preston: I want you to have a killer rest of your



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Marc Preston: week or weekend or whenever you're



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Marc Preston: listening.



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Marc Preston: Be safe, please.



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Marc Preston: I want to see you next go around for



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Fred Melamed

Actor

Fred Melamed was born and raised in New York City. He has won both critical and popular acclaim. Recently, he was named by New York Magazine's survey of distinguished critics and film professionals as one of The 32 Greatest Character Actors Living Today. A Yale Drama School graduate, he has won both the Independent Spirit and Voice Lifetime Achievement acting awards, and was short-listed for an Oscar for his performance in the Coen Brothers’ classic, A Serious Man. For that performance, Melamed was listed by Harry Domenico Rossi as one of The 25 Greatest Screen Villains of All Time. He has hundreds of film and television credits, and literally thousands of commercials and promos on the air as a voice actor, notably as the signature voice of Mercedes Benz, CBS Sports, Boar’s Head, Burger King, USA Network, The Olympics, and The Superbowl. On television, Melamed currently stars in the Ryan Murphy hit series American Crime Story: Impeachment, the popular HBO/MAX comedy, Barry, the Marvel/Disney juggernaut, WandaVision, and the upcoming Hulu blockbuster, Reboot. In the past, he has starred on Curb Your Enthusiasm, New Girl, Brooklyn 99 and Lady Dynamite, to name but a few. His slate of films includes the breakout hit Shiva Baby, Cat Person, Hail, Caesar!, In a World…, and 7 collaborations with Woody Allen, more than any other actor besides Mia Farrow and Allen, himself. He has taught at Yale University, The University of Minnesota and New York University.