On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with actor, Graham McTavish. We chat about working on the STARZ series, Outlander, as well as the show he and his Outlander co-star, Sam Heughan created for STARZ, Men and Kilts: A Road Trip with Sam and Graham. The new season debuts on STARZ on August 11th. We also chat about acting on the Netflix series, The Witcher, as well as the Game of Thrones prequel, House of The Dragon on Max.
We discuss Graham’s life growing up in Scotland, to his study in London, to decades working and acting in projects around the world. We also chat about his memorable experiences on TV projects like 24, Preacher and the The Hobbit series of films. We also touch on his latest projects, including the independent movie Somewhere in Montana and season four of The Witcher.
It was a pleasure to bring you this intriguing chat with the talented actor and proper Scotsman, Graham McTavish!
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
0:03:13 - Scottish Ancestry and Family History
0:08:32 - Unscripted and Improvisational
0:12:13 - Shakespeare's Folio and Acting Career
0:18:25 - Contradictions in Beautiful New Zealand
0:21:24 - Family Background and Acting Opportunities
0:28:19 - Discovering Passion for Acting
0:34:16 - Touring Across America
0:40:01 - Being in the Hobbit
0:42:46 - Upcoming Projects and Travel Challenges
0:50:43 - Career Paths and Advice
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I was a massive fan of 24.
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Graham McTavish: A massive fan which I kept embarrassing
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Graham McTavish: myself with on set, constantly telling the
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Graham McTavish: show.
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Graham McTavish: It got to the point where they were going
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Graham McTavish: yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Graham McTavish: Okay, graham, we get it.
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Marc Preston: Today, as I mentioned, graham McTavish,
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Marc Preston: He has a show with his Outlander co-star,
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Marc Preston: Very interesting show for me right now.
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Marc Preston: Today is Graham McTavish Day, right here on
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Marc Preston: So how are you doing today, sir?
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Marc Preston: Good, yeah, very well, thanks, not bad at
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Marc Preston: I'm in London, i'm in London.
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Graham McTavish: Which clan is that?
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Marc Preston: Did you ever do that, bonnie Chance?
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Graham McTavish: Not the ancestry thing I've done.
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Graham McTavish: What have I done?
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Graham McTavish: A lady offered to do my family tree, and so
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Graham McTavish: that's a sort of Scottish-Irish background
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Graham McTavish: in my family And she, my goodness, my God,
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Graham McTavish: i mean the family tree that she produced is
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Graham McTavish: like six yards long.
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Graham McTavish: Oh, it doesn't take long.
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Marc Preston: It was very serendipitous because I'm
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Marc Preston: I forgot which episode I was watching.
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Marc Preston: but I can push it off.
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Graham McTavish: Well, i mean, yeah, that I mean all.
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Graham McTavish: That is enormously difficult to do.
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Graham McTavish: that It's one thing to lift two hundred
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Graham McTavish: pounds, like in a gym, but to lift a stone.
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Marc Preston: I got, i got a hernia just watching him do
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Marc Preston: So, yes, well, the men and kilt thing.
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Marc Preston: How did that come together?
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Graham McTavish: a treatment for an idea called clan lands
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Graham McTavish: in 1992.
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Graham McTavish: Well, 1991, i think, actually, and the idea
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Graham McTavish: was to explore Scottish clans And that was
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Graham McTavish: And I remember talking about this to Sam
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Graham McTavish: and Sam has an interest in Scottish history
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Graham McTavish: as well, of course And then he rang me.
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Graham McTavish: He rang me in New Zealand.
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Graham McTavish: I was in New Zealand, i was in the kitchen
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Graham McTavish: and he said hey mate, why don't we?
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Graham McTavish: we should do something about Scottish
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Graham McTavish: It would be fun.
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Graham McTavish: Maybe we could do a podcast.
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Marc Preston: you and then talking about the Scottish
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Graham McTavish: No, no, he was.
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Graham McTavish: He had his own interest in it for sure.
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Graham McTavish: But he remembered me talking about my
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Graham McTavish: interest and thought that it's and I agree
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Graham McTavish: So you know, he suggested a podcast and I
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Graham McTavish: then he suggested doing a recorded kind of
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Graham McTavish: So we got together a group of people that
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Graham McTavish: crew and we we just went out for five
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Graham McTavish: Well, no, that was.
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Graham McTavish: I certainly did.
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Marc Preston: You're dialed into that.
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Marc Preston: It's funny.
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Marc Preston: There's this young lady who I'd start
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Marc Preston: working with when she was nine years old
447
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Marc Preston: and she was on a Disney Channel show And it
448
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Marc Preston: was amazing to just give her a scenario and
449
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Marc Preston: see her in the sound booth and say, ok, now
450
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Marc Preston: play with this.
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Marc Preston: It just takes off, you know.
452
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Marc Preston: And then going wow, kids have that
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Marc Preston: superpower where they just go there.
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Marc Preston: They're almost suffering from too many
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Marc Preston: choices, you know.
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, well, they don't have that weird
457
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Graham McTavish: inhibition that we start to place upon
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Graham McTavish: ourselves as we get older And as children
459
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Graham McTavish: you're not even really seeing it as
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Graham McTavish: performing as such.
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Graham McTavish: It's just being, and you can be, i could be
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Graham McTavish: me, or I can be this other person when I'm
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Graham McTavish: a kid, and it's not like I'm having to oh,
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Graham McTavish: now I have to get into some kind of
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Graham McTavish: character.
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Graham McTavish: It's just like that.
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Marc Preston: You don't see kids being all method.
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Marc Preston: When they try to play cops and robbers, you
469
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Marc Preston: know they just buy in and they're there.
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Graham McTavish: No, not a lot of Daniel Day-Lewis going on
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Graham McTavish: in the playground.
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Marc Preston: No as far as kids go, do you have any kids
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Marc Preston: at all?
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Graham McTavish: I do.
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, I have a 16 and an 11 year old, both
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Graham McTavish: girls.
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Graham McTavish: Yes.
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Marc Preston: Oh, very good, I've got a.
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Marc Preston: my youngest is 17.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, are they growing up in London?
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Graham McTavish: They're actually in New Zealand, which is
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Graham McTavish: where we we moved to for the Hobbit, and
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Graham McTavish: they've been there with their mother and
484
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Graham McTavish: then I see them.
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Graham McTavish: In fact they're coming over in a couple of
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Graham McTavish: days for a holiday.
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, i go back three or four times a year
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Graham McTavish: to New Zealand spend time with them.
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Graham McTavish: They come over here a couple of times, so
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Graham McTavish: you know I see them quite a lot, quite a
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Graham McTavish: lot.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, new Zealand, they did.
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Marc Preston: I saw something was voted one of the most
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Marc Preston: The happy God.
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Marc Preston: I was watching something the other day
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Marc Preston: talking about where people are the happiest
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Marc Preston: or the best quality of life And New
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Marc Preston: Zealand's like a top five, i think.
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Graham McTavish: I mean it's an interesting New Zealand's
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Graham McTavish: interesting.
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Graham McTavish: It's interesting, i think there's I mean,
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Graham McTavish: if I'm completely honest, there is somewhat
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Graham McTavish: other of a sort of contradiction in New
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Graham McTavish: Zealand, in that New Zealand is beautiful,
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Graham McTavish: it is utterly beautiful and it is, you know,
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Graham McTavish: i suppose, lord of the.
507
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Graham McTavish: Rings was filmed.
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Graham McTavish: This is where the Hobbit was filmed.
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Graham McTavish: This is a sort of fantasy land, almost
510
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Graham McTavish: otherworldly, but it also is far away from
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Graham McTavish: everything, and you feel that when you're
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Graham McTavish: there And I think it's a very, very
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Graham McTavish: wonderful place to grow up, to be a child
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Graham McTavish: And I'm very grateful that my children have
515
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Graham McTavish: been growing up there I think it starts to
516
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Graham McTavish: become a little more tricky.
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Graham McTavish: When you get into your late teens, early
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Graham McTavish: twenties.
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Graham McTavish: You feel the need to travel, and so yeah,
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Graham McTavish: would it be.
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Marc Preston: I don't know if the phrase necessarily
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Marc Preston: would be island fever, but is that sense
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Marc Preston: that you are kind of on this, contain space
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Marc Preston: and you kind of?
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Graham McTavish: want to.
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Graham McTavish: They call it in New Zealand.
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Graham McTavish: They call it the tyranny of distance.
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Graham McTavish: So it's you are just conscious that you are
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Graham McTavish: 1200 miles from the nearest landmass, which
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Graham McTavish: is a long walk.
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Graham McTavish: Really, is it that?
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Marc Preston: far from Australia, australia, 1200 miles.
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Marc Preston: Looking at a map you think it's kind of
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Marc Preston: close, but 1200 miles, there's a little bit
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Marc Preston: of a haul.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, it is.
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Marc Preston: Are they?
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Marc Preston: are they any of them kind of potentially
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Marc Preston: following in your footsteps?
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Marc Preston: Are they theatrical?
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Graham McTavish: Are they little little fespians or I mean
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Graham McTavish: you know they've done school plays and
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Graham McTavish: things like that.
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Graham McTavish: I mean I've neither encouraged them or
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Graham McTavish: discouraged them at all.
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Graham McTavish: I think I mean my youngest daughter, i you
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Graham McTavish: know she talks about being a lawyer, she
548
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Graham McTavish: talks about being all sorts of things.
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Graham McTavish: She's a natural debater.
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Graham McTavish: She could debate you about anything.
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Graham McTavish: And my eldest is interested in the film
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Graham McTavish: industry, but she's interested in it from
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Graham McTavish: behind the camera.
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Graham McTavish: So, and I'm all for that, i'm all for that
555
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Graham McTavish: because acting is a very it's, it's a very,
556
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Graham McTavish: very, very difficult path and not to be
557
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Graham McTavish: taken.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, you definitely need to.
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Marc Preston: what was that phrase?
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Marc Preston: that if you can't imagine yourself doing
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Marc Preston: anything else, then yeah, go for it, but if
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Marc Preston: you can imagine yourself doing a multitude
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Marc Preston: of other things, maybe it's not the thing.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's so funny.
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Marc Preston: You said that a debater thing My youngest
567
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Marc Preston: is she's the one that calls, calls me out
568
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Marc Preston: on my nonsense and she's usually right.
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Marc Preston: You know so, but hopefully she doesn't
570
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Marc Preston: really listen to this, so she won't know.
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Marc Preston: I'm actually giving her credit.
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Marc Preston: Now you were growing up in in Scotland,
573
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Marc Preston: Were your parents?
574
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Marc Preston: were you coming from a family of Thespians,
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Marc Preston: or were they of a whole different track?
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Graham McTavish: No, no, not at all.
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Graham McTavish: There was no history at all about.
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Graham McTavish: Well, the only person that did any acting
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Graham McTavish: in my family was my sister, who did it at
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Graham McTavish: school, and so I remember going to see her
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Graham McTavish: in a school production of crime and
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Graham McTavish: punishment, which isn't, you know what you
583
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Graham McTavish: would imagine would be the obvious choice
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Graham McTavish: for a school play crime and punishment It's
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Graham McTavish: yeah, i mean thinking about it now it's
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Graham McTavish: like wow, but they were a very sort of
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Graham McTavish: forward thinking school And I went to the
588
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Graham McTavish: same school, but that was the only time.
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Graham McTavish: And she, she was very good, actually she
590
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Graham McTavish: was very good, but life took her down a
591
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Graham McTavish: different road.
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Graham McTavish: But my mother, my mother, was picked to be
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Graham McTavish: in a school play when she was young.
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Graham McTavish: But you know, my mother was born in 1922.
595
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Graham McTavish: And there was no.
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Graham McTavish: There was.
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Graham McTavish: I mean, she came from a working class
598
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Graham McTavish: family.
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Graham McTavish: I mean there was no possibility of anybody
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Graham McTavish: of that generation and that background
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Graham McTavish: really at that time getting a career in
602
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Graham McTavish: acting.
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Graham McTavish: It was it'd be very, very, very, very hard,
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Graham McTavish: so it wouldn't have even crossed our mind.
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Graham McTavish: But what I will say is that they were
606
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Graham McTavish: incredibly encouraging and supportive.
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Marc Preston: Okay, that's good.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, they never, because I've spoken with
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Marc Preston: many people who, when someone decides, hey,
610
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Marc Preston: i'm gonna do this, acting thing there,
611
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Marc Preston: usually as one parent or somebody's like
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Marc Preston: you know, sometimes they're trying to
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Marc Preston: protect you by saying you know this is
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Marc Preston: difficult, what are you doing?
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Marc Preston: But?
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Marc Preston: but, but you had the encouragement They
617
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Marc Preston: were, they were all in on your yeah, I mean
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Marc Preston: my mother.
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Graham McTavish: My mother was somebody that you know.
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Graham McTavish: I could have told her I wanted to do
621
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Graham McTavish: anything and she would have supported me.
622
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Graham McTavish: My father, his only concern was the money.
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Marc Preston: It was the money, and when he was your
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Marc Preston: father, the practical one in the family.
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Graham McTavish: Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, he was.
626
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Graham McTavish: He was a pilot in the Second World War.
627
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Graham McTavish: He was a civil aviation pilot, but he'd
628
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Graham McTavish: grown up as a as an apprentice printer in
629
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Graham McTavish: Glasgow, and so he came from a very strong
630
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Graham McTavish: working class background And and, weirdly
631
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Graham McTavish: enough, as I get older, i see many, many
632
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Graham McTavish: more parallels with my father's life in
633
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Graham McTavish: terms of how he was as a person.
634
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Graham McTavish: He wasn't really satisfied with the world
635
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Graham McTavish: that he grew up in and wanted something
636
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Graham McTavish: more and wanted to travel, wanted to,
637
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Graham McTavish: wanted to experience the world, and that's,
638
00:24:00,636 --> 00:24:02,407
Graham McTavish: that's indeed what he did.
639
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Graham McTavish: So, in that sense, not that he wanted to be
640
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Graham McTavish: an actor, but he, he, he, he, every he.
641
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Graham McTavish: My mother dragged him to every single play
642
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Graham McTavish: that I ever did, every single one all over
643
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Graham McTavish: the country Was.
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Marc Preston: you see, was he a commercial airline pilot
645
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Marc Preston: after the war He did after the Second World
646
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Marc Preston: War.
647
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, he was.
648
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Graham McTavish: He was a bomber pilot in the war And then
649
00:24:23,044 --> 00:24:25,771
Graham McTavish: he became a commercial airline pilot And so
650
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Graham McTavish: he was a big aviation nerd.
651
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Marc Preston: I always love hearing stories of you know
652
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Marc Preston: going to the flight museums and seeing the
653
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Marc Preston: old war birds and the.
654
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Marc Preston: when I learned how to fly I'm not the air
655
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Marc Preston: the, the, not Academy, a little flight
656
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Marc Preston: school was right next door to a aviation
657
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Marc Preston: museum where most of the planes actually
658
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Marc Preston: still flew And they had a.
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Marc Preston: I don't mean to over romanticize it, it was
660
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Marc Preston: war after all, but but still, you know
661
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Marc Preston: that's kind of your father I'm sure had
662
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Marc Preston: many stories.
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Marc Preston: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Graham McTavish: I mean he, he grew up again, born in 1922,
665
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Graham McTavish: where he grew up he was able to see
666
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Graham McTavish: aircraft.
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Graham McTavish: You know, in the in the early 1930s he was
668
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Graham McTavish: able to see aircraft flying around where he,
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Graham McTavish: where he lived, and he dreamt of being a
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Graham McTavish: pilot and could never have possibly
671
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Graham McTavish: imagined that he could become one.
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Graham McTavish: And it was only the war, like a lot of
673
00:25:15,727 --> 00:25:17,934
Graham McTavish: people, that allowed him to realize that
674
00:25:18,195 --> 00:25:19,118
Graham McTavish: dream really.
675
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Graham McTavish: But he never spoke about the war, never
676
00:25:23,051 --> 00:25:23,493
Graham McTavish: never once.
677
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Marc Preston: Yeah, because he was a young man, when he
678
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,665
Marc Preston: was still a man in his early 20s.
679
00:25:27,267 --> 00:25:29,152
Marc Preston: When I and looking at my kids, i'm sure you
680
00:25:29,192 --> 00:25:31,198
Marc Preston: kind of do the same thing with the younger
681
00:25:31,258 --> 00:25:33,550
Marc Preston: folk It's like God.
682
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Marc Preston: I cannot imagine being 21, 22.
683
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Graham McTavish: Yeah, he enlisted in when he was.
684
00:25:37,723 --> 00:25:41,612
Graham McTavish: He was 19, when he enlisted, and I cannot
685
00:25:41,772 --> 00:25:43,056
Graham McTavish: even imagine it.
686
00:25:43,898 --> 00:25:46,204
Marc Preston: No, There was a certain discipline in that
687
00:25:46,224 --> 00:25:46,465
Marc Preston: generation.
688
00:25:47,166 --> 00:25:51,694
Graham McTavish: Well, you, you see, you see, I see pictures
689
00:25:51,754 --> 00:25:53,417
Graham McTavish: of him when he was 19.
690
00:25:53,998 --> 00:25:56,647
Graham McTavish: And he just looks like a man, like a man.
691
00:25:57,067 --> 00:26:01,036
Graham McTavish: Not, he's not a teenager, He's a man, And I
692
00:26:01,056 --> 00:26:02,459
Graham McTavish: mean he left school when he was 14.
693
00:26:03,105 --> 00:26:05,711
Graham McTavish: So he'd had a lot of life experience by the
694
00:26:05,752 --> 00:26:06,594
Graham McTavish: time he was 19.
695
00:26:06,674 --> 00:26:08,418
Graham McTavish: But I mean, people were different then,
696
00:26:08,625 --> 00:26:09,147
Graham McTavish: they just were.
697
00:26:10,750 --> 00:26:11,231
Marc Preston: I think so.
698
00:26:11,371 --> 00:26:13,636
Marc Preston: You know the times pretty much called upon
699
00:26:13,656 --> 00:26:14,238
Marc Preston: them to be.
700
00:26:14,545 --> 00:26:16,652
Marc Preston: You know to, to, to meet the moment.
701
00:26:16,753 --> 00:26:18,499
Marc Preston: You know Well, and his father.
702
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,527
Graham McTavish: His father had fought in the First World
703
00:26:20,567 --> 00:26:20,828
Graham McTavish: War.
704
00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:24,400
Graham McTavish: Family members had died in the First World
705
00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:26,326
Graham McTavish: War, both with my mother's family and my
706
00:26:26,367 --> 00:26:27,029
Graham McTavish: father's family.
707
00:26:27,089 --> 00:26:28,735
Graham McTavish: So then this was life.
708
00:26:28,815 --> 00:26:30,220
Graham McTavish: This was what life was like.
709
00:26:30,902 --> 00:26:32,908
Graham McTavish: You know, it was a very real part of your
710
00:26:32,948 --> 00:26:37,818
Graham McTavish: existence that, on the whole, we have been
711
00:26:37,858 --> 00:26:40,463
Graham McTavish: spared, comparatively.
712
00:26:40,483 --> 00:26:42,929
Graham McTavish: I mean people like yourself, me, you know,
713
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:43,751
Graham McTavish: i don't do.
714
00:26:44,292 --> 00:26:45,515
Graham McTavish: I don't know if you've ever served in the
715
00:26:45,535 --> 00:26:49,055
Graham McTavish: military, but it's not something that that
716
00:26:49,416 --> 00:26:51,584
Graham McTavish: was ever required in my life, fortunately.
717
00:26:52,387 --> 00:26:54,673
Marc Preston: No, no, never, never did admire the people
718
00:26:55,255 --> 00:26:56,919
Marc Preston: who do greatly.
719
00:26:57,602 --> 00:26:58,987
Marc Preston: Now, where'd you go to university to study
720
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Marc Preston: acting?
721
00:26:59,621 --> 00:26:59,701
Marc Preston: I?
722
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Graham McTavish: went to London University, queen Mary
723
00:27:02,307 --> 00:27:05,313
Graham McTavish: College, and I was very lucky.
724
00:27:07,001 --> 00:27:10,290
Graham McTavish: You know, i can look at certain points in
725
00:27:10,330 --> 00:27:13,218
Graham McTavish: my life where I've been lucky in the
726
00:27:13,278 --> 00:27:15,103
Graham McTavish: circumstances I've found myself in, and
727
00:27:15,684 --> 00:27:17,749
Graham McTavish: it's just so happened that where I went to
728
00:27:17,809 --> 00:27:22,144
Graham McTavish: college at London University, the professor
729
00:27:22,184 --> 00:27:23,692
Graham McTavish: of English I read English literature.
730
00:27:24,235 --> 00:27:26,845
Graham McTavish: The professor of English was very, very,
731
00:27:26,965 --> 00:27:30,716
Graham McTavish: very passionate about making sure that
732
00:27:30,776 --> 00:27:32,260
Graham McTavish: everybody involved themselves in putting on
733
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:32,641
Graham McTavish: plays.
734
00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:35,366
Graham McTavish: So whether you didn't have to act in them,
735
00:27:36,087 --> 00:27:39,233
Graham McTavish: but acting them, work backstage, make
736
00:27:39,253 --> 00:27:41,226
Graham McTavish: costumes, but especially Shakespeare,
737
00:27:41,467 --> 00:27:43,234
Graham McTavish: especially Jackie B and Elizabethan drama,
738
00:27:43,897 --> 00:27:45,382
Graham McTavish: you had to put them on stage because that's
739
00:27:45,402 --> 00:27:48,009
Graham McTavish: what they were written for, and so I was
740
00:27:48,049 --> 00:27:51,225
Graham McTavish: lucky enough to be able to play many roles
741
00:27:51,887 --> 00:27:53,493
Graham McTavish: that I actually wouldn't have been able to
742
00:27:53,533 --> 00:27:54,657
Graham McTavish: play if I'd come to drama school,
743
00:27:54,921 --> 00:27:57,567
Graham McTavish: ironically enough, and so I got a lot of
744
00:27:57,908 --> 00:27:59,753
Graham McTavish: experience at university.
745
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Marc Preston: Oh, that's good.
746
00:28:00,382 --> 00:28:01,947
Marc Preston: That's a very interesting point where this
747
00:28:01,987 --> 00:28:04,164
Marc Preston: was actually your chosen thing initially,
748
00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:06,814
Marc Preston: that that would be you'd be competing
749
00:28:06,854 --> 00:28:08,340
Marc Preston: against others to maybe you get certain
750
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,681
Marc Preston: things.
751
00:28:08,721 --> 00:28:09,323
Marc Preston: But here you can.
752
00:28:10,185 --> 00:28:11,529
Marc Preston: you're kind of put it like you mentioned
753
00:28:11,569 --> 00:28:13,783
Marc Preston: you wanted to be a writer, so you're kind
754
00:28:13,803 --> 00:28:15,916
Marc Preston: of in the ecosystem, seeing all angles of
755
00:28:15,956 --> 00:28:16,580
Marc Preston: the creative process.
756
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,684
Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i mean I'd wanted.
757
00:28:19,185 --> 00:28:23,292
Graham McTavish: I developed an interest in acting after as
758
00:28:23,372 --> 00:28:25,863
Graham McTavish: I was leaving school And when I left school
759
00:28:25,923 --> 00:28:28,509
Graham McTavish: I took a year off And during that year the
760
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:31,667
Graham McTavish: local amateur dramatics company they came
761
00:28:31,687 --> 00:28:33,775
Graham McTavish: around and leaf littered all the houses in
762
00:28:33,795 --> 00:28:35,421
Graham McTavish: the area in the days when people used to
763
00:28:35,461 --> 00:28:39,193
Graham McTavish: kind of like hand print leaflets And they
764
00:28:39,233 --> 00:28:40,999
Graham McTavish: start one through my letterbox or our
765
00:28:41,019 --> 00:28:42,811
Graham McTavish: letterbox And it was asking for young
766
00:28:42,968 --> 00:28:45,477
Graham McTavish: actors to join the local church hall
767
00:28:45,635 --> 00:28:45,955
Graham McTavish: company.
768
00:28:46,113 --> 00:28:50,990
Graham McTavish: And I showed it to my mother And I said Do
769
00:28:51,031 --> 00:28:51,392
Graham McTavish: you do?
770
00:28:51,412 --> 00:28:52,315
Graham McTavish: you think she'd do this.
771
00:28:53,217 --> 00:28:54,100
Graham McTavish: And I always, i've never forgotten her
772
00:28:54,882 --> 00:28:55,183
Graham McTavish: answer.
773
00:28:55,905 --> 00:28:57,731
Graham McTavish: She just looked to me and she said, Yeah, i
774
00:28:57,771 --> 00:29:00,459
Graham McTavish: think you should, and, and that was that.
775
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,089
Graham McTavish: And I thought, okay, okay, and like lots of
776
00:29:04,129 --> 00:29:07,158
Graham McTavish: decisions in your life, it's, they seem
777
00:29:07,178 --> 00:29:09,927
Graham McTavish: have no consequence at the time, they
778
00:29:09,947 --> 00:29:10,810
Graham McTavish: really do.
779
00:29:10,910 --> 00:29:11,452
Marc Preston: Isn't that funny.
780
00:29:11,512 --> 00:29:13,399
Marc Preston: It's usually not something that it's a big
781
00:29:13,439 --> 00:29:13,660
Marc Preston: decision.
782
00:29:14,623 --> 00:29:16,349
Marc Preston: Yeah, You know, and also the ones that you
783
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:16,810
Marc Preston: were.
784
00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:19,439
Marc Preston: You genuinely follow your intuition.
785
00:29:19,459 --> 00:29:22,432
Marc Preston: Like a Sanford Meisner said act before you
786
00:29:22,472 --> 00:29:22,693
Marc Preston: think.
787
00:29:22,733 --> 00:29:23,999
Marc Preston: Your instincts are more honest than your
788
00:29:24,019 --> 00:29:26,050
Marc Preston: thoughts, And those rare moments we like
789
00:29:26,251 --> 00:29:27,437
Marc Preston: this feels right And then you're so proud
790
00:29:27,457 --> 00:29:27,759
Marc Preston: of yourself.
791
00:29:27,779 --> 00:29:28,020
Marc Preston: It works out.
792
00:29:29,284 --> 00:29:32,834
Marc Preston: You know not, not not always, but no, no,
793
00:29:32,934 --> 00:29:33,897
Marc Preston: indeed not, no.
794
00:29:34,077 --> 00:29:35,502
Graham McTavish: But I mean, that's what primed me for me,
795
00:29:35,582 --> 00:29:37,831
Graham McTavish: for being so interested in it.
796
00:29:37,911 --> 00:29:39,658
Graham McTavish: I did a year of amateur theater, basically
797
00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:41,245
Graham McTavish: before I went to university, and then I
798
00:29:41,420 --> 00:29:44,178
Graham McTavish: just did theater all the time, all the time
799
00:29:44,352 --> 00:29:45,276
Graham McTavish: when I was there.
800
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:45,947
Graham McTavish: So when?
801
00:29:46,809 --> 00:29:47,711
Marc Preston: you left university.
802
00:29:47,771 --> 00:29:50,178
Marc Preston: What happened from that point forward?
803
00:29:50,258 --> 00:29:52,042
Announcer: Were you, were you a quote unquote working
804
00:29:52,143 --> 00:29:54,669
Announcer: actor Or were you trying to find yourself.
805
00:29:55,411 --> 00:29:56,013
Graham McTavish: Well, it was funny.
806
00:29:56,554 --> 00:29:59,965
Graham McTavish: When I left, the idea was that I was going
807
00:29:59,985 --> 00:30:01,553
Graham McTavish: to go to drama school for a year after it
808
00:30:01,573 --> 00:30:02,316
Graham McTavish: was postgraduate.
809
00:30:02,336 --> 00:30:04,947
Graham McTavish: That was the plan, and so I auditioned for
810
00:30:04,967 --> 00:30:06,954
Graham McTavish: a number of drama schools Bristol, old Vic
811
00:30:07,074 --> 00:30:09,722
Graham McTavish: and Rada and Central and all the usual ones
812
00:30:10,364 --> 00:30:13,010
Graham McTavish: And I got into five schools.
813
00:30:14,473 --> 00:30:17,499
Graham McTavish: And then I was suddenly confronted with
814
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:20,067
Graham McTavish: this terrible truth that I was going to
815
00:30:20,087 --> 00:30:23,498
Graham McTavish: have to pay Because I, in those days, you
816
00:30:23,538 --> 00:30:25,545
Graham McTavish: had free university education in the United
817
00:30:25,585 --> 00:30:27,772
Graham McTavish: Kingdom And so I just had three years of
818
00:30:28,374 --> 00:30:31,526
Graham McTavish: free education, and the idea of paying was
819
00:30:31,566 --> 00:30:32,952
Graham McTavish: just completely anathema to me.
820
00:30:33,012 --> 00:30:34,598
Marc Preston: So I just was considered sort of a master's
821
00:30:34,618 --> 00:30:38,169
Marc Preston: program, if you will.
822
00:30:38,229 --> 00:30:40,716
Graham McTavish: I mean I'd used up my three years, so there
823
00:30:40,756 --> 00:30:41,959
Graham McTavish: was no way I was going to pay.
824
00:30:41,979 --> 00:30:44,509
Graham McTavish: So I just said, no, no, no, i won't do that,
825
00:30:44,569 --> 00:30:45,231
Graham McTavish: i'll just.
826
00:30:45,753 --> 00:30:46,958
Graham McTavish: I'll just do a one man show.
827
00:30:46,978 --> 00:30:49,787
Graham McTavish: So I did Samuel Beckett's Craps, last Tape,
828
00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:52,135
Graham McTavish: and my girlfriend and I took it around to
829
00:30:52,216 --> 00:30:55,005
Graham McTavish: pubs all over London to get my equity card.
830
00:30:55,628 --> 00:30:57,395
Graham McTavish: And that's what I did.
831
00:30:57,415 --> 00:30:58,479
Marc Preston: I got my equity card And then you can get
832
00:30:58,499 --> 00:31:01,267
Marc Preston: your equity card by doing performances of
833
00:31:01,287 --> 00:31:02,209
Marc Preston: pubs Really.
834
00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:05,318
Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because because it
835
00:31:05,338 --> 00:31:09,930
Graham McTavish: was a one man show, it was a loophole in
836
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:12,698
Graham McTavish: equity that it counted as a variety act And
837
00:31:12,738 --> 00:31:15,226
Graham McTavish: as a variety act you could pretty much
838
00:31:15,266 --> 00:31:16,049
Graham McTavish: perform it anywhere.
839
00:31:16,712 --> 00:31:17,977
Graham McTavish: And so I did it And I just had to get a, i
840
00:31:17,997 --> 00:31:21,086
Graham McTavish: just had to be paid And I had to prove that
841
00:31:21,106 --> 00:31:21,688
Graham McTavish: I'd been paid.
842
00:31:22,069 --> 00:31:24,717
Graham McTavish: And then I was a professional actor And,
843
00:31:24,737 --> 00:31:29,455
Graham McTavish: like a lot of things, certainly in my case,
844
00:31:29,475 --> 00:31:30,359
Graham McTavish: it has been a great advantage to not know
845
00:31:30,379 --> 00:31:34,131
Graham McTavish: what I'm doing, just to be completely
846
00:31:34,231 --> 00:31:34,592
Graham McTavish: ignorant.
847
00:31:34,612 --> 00:31:36,118
Graham McTavish: And and just isn't it funny when you reach
848
00:31:36,138 --> 00:31:38,266
Graham McTavish: this age and you look back going.
849
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Marc Preston: If I had cognition of how many things could
850
00:31:40,495 --> 00:31:41,539
Marc Preston: go wrong or different snicker, I never
851
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:42,342
Marc Preston: would have done it.
852
00:31:42,402 --> 00:31:42,944
Marc Preston: I would never have.
853
00:31:43,044 --> 00:31:45,133
Graham McTavish: I'd never have moved to America, i would
854
00:31:45,253 --> 00:31:46,417
Graham McTavish: never have gone into acting.
855
00:31:46,919 --> 00:31:49,750
Graham McTavish: I would never, i mean.
856
00:31:49,770 --> 00:31:50,794
Graham McTavish: So I was just contacting theaters.
857
00:31:50,874 --> 00:31:52,319
Graham McTavish: I was just ringing them up in the days
858
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,087
Graham McTavish: where they weren't casting directors then
859
00:31:54,207 --> 00:31:55,152
Graham McTavish: in theater.
860
00:31:55,172 --> 00:31:56,880
Graham McTavish: So you just ring up and you talk to the
861
00:31:58,885 --> 00:32:02,393
Graham McTavish: director And you just say, oh hello, i'm
862
00:32:02,433 --> 00:32:04,579
Graham McTavish: Graham, i'm, i'm, i want, i'm an actor.
863
00:32:04,679 --> 00:32:07,953
Graham McTavish: Are you casting anything at the moment that
864
00:32:07,973 --> 00:32:08,495
Graham McTavish: I could be right for?
865
00:32:08,515 --> 00:32:09,439
Graham McTavish: And they say, oh, yeah, well, send in your
866
00:32:09,459 --> 00:32:11,950
Graham McTavish: stuff, what do you think you could be good
867
00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:12,090
Graham McTavish: for?
868
00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:13,155
Graham McTavish: And you send them in, and some of them
869
00:32:13,175 --> 00:32:17,390
Graham McTavish: would ring you up and go, yes, we'd like
870
00:32:17,410 --> 00:32:18,553
Graham McTavish: you to come in, and some of them you'd
871
00:32:18,593 --> 00:32:19,316
Graham McTavish: never hear from again.
872
00:32:19,396 --> 00:32:24,188
Graham McTavish: But I had no, i had no inhibitions at all.
873
00:32:24,308 --> 00:32:28,296
Graham McTavish: I was just like, yeah, like ridiculously
874
00:32:28,597 --> 00:32:30,561
Graham McTavish: confident, with no basis for that
875
00:32:30,601 --> 00:32:31,062
Graham McTavish: confidence.
876
00:32:32,044 --> 00:32:34,389
Marc Preston: So well, that's being your 20s, isn't it?
877
00:32:34,489 --> 00:32:36,493
Marc Preston: You know the name of the game.
878
00:32:36,513 --> 00:32:37,922
Marc Preston: I saw a quote the other day.
879
00:32:37,963 --> 00:32:40,529
Marc Preston: It said if you are at this age and you're
880
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:42,424
Marc Preston: looking back on your younger self and you
881
00:32:42,444 --> 00:32:44,011
Marc Preston: don't go, god, i was such a knucklehead.
882
00:32:44,734 --> 00:32:45,578
Marc Preston: You're still a knucklehead.
883
00:32:45,859 --> 00:32:47,344
Marc Preston: You know it because.
884
00:32:47,444 --> 00:32:48,528
Marc Preston: But that's part of the process.
885
00:32:48,548 --> 00:32:51,237
Marc Preston: You got to go through it to learn, to
886
00:32:51,318 --> 00:32:52,000
Marc Preston: discover yourself.
887
00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:57,092
Graham McTavish: I think Yes yes, yes, and you know we, we
888
00:32:57,133 --> 00:32:59,659
Graham McTavish: ended I ended up, you know, doing doing
889
00:32:59,719 --> 00:33:02,707
Graham McTavish: some acting roles And but I wanted more
890
00:33:02,927 --> 00:33:03,729
Graham McTavish: exposure.
891
00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:07,198
Graham McTavish: So myself and a friend, we'd done Edward
892
00:33:07,238 --> 00:33:09,684
Graham McTavish: Albee's The Zoo Story together, the
893
00:33:09,724 --> 00:33:11,548
Graham McTavish: Edinburgh Festival, and we were looking for
894
00:33:11,588 --> 00:33:12,510
Graham McTavish: another two man show.
895
00:33:12,571 --> 00:33:15,206
Graham McTavish: So we wrote a play about Vincent van Gogh
896
00:33:16,009 --> 00:33:17,494
Graham McTavish: based on the letters between the two of
897
00:33:17,514 --> 00:33:19,962
Graham McTavish: them, and we persuaded the National Gallery
898
00:33:19,982 --> 00:33:20,925
Graham McTavish: in London to put it on.
899
00:33:21,988 --> 00:33:25,439
Graham McTavish: And then that led to a very long story we
900
00:33:25,479 --> 00:33:27,927
Graham McTavish: haven't got time for, but that led to a
901
00:33:27,987 --> 00:33:30,597
Graham McTavish: tour of America, three tours of America and
902
00:33:30,617 --> 00:33:31,881
Graham McTavish: abroad, and blah, blah, blah, blah and all
903
00:33:31,901 --> 00:33:32,282
Graham McTavish: the rest of it.
904
00:33:32,623 --> 00:33:35,993
Graham McTavish: But again, you know, if I started that
905
00:33:36,034 --> 00:33:41,246
Graham McTavish: process with the goal of touring America, i
906
00:33:41,266 --> 00:33:43,470
Graham McTavish: would have been paralyzed, but all I wanted
907
00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:45,934
Graham McTavish: to do was get people to be able to see me
908
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:46,301
Graham McTavish: act.
909
00:33:47,303 --> 00:33:49,147
Graham McTavish: So we, you know, rather than rely on
910
00:33:49,187 --> 00:33:51,231
Graham McTavish: somebody else to give me the job, i wrote
911
00:33:51,291 --> 00:33:54,685
Graham McTavish: the job for myself And please come and see
912
00:33:54,725 --> 00:33:54,825
Graham McTavish: me.
913
00:33:55,506 --> 00:33:57,290
Graham McTavish: So it's a kind of arrogance mixed with
914
00:33:57,370 --> 00:33:57,871
Graham McTavish: naivety.
915
00:33:58,372 --> 00:33:59,966
Marc Preston: Your name, you know you talked about that
916
00:34:00,006 --> 00:34:00,691
Marc Preston: thing when you're younger.
917
00:34:00,711 --> 00:34:02,542
Marc Preston: If you don't know what you're stepping into
918
00:34:02,562 --> 00:34:02,783
Marc Preston: that's.
919
00:34:02,803 --> 00:34:05,013
Marc Preston: That's a good thing, because you can more
920
00:34:05,133 --> 00:34:06,640
Marc Preston: add, i think more effectively follow your
921
00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:08,984
Marc Preston: goals, dreams, aspirations without any
922
00:34:09,265 --> 00:34:10,788
Marc Preston: hindrances of common sense.
923
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:15,404
Marc Preston: Yes yes, not having common sense for sure.
924
00:34:15,525 --> 00:34:16,851
Marc Preston: Now, where did you land when you got to
925
00:34:16,891 --> 00:34:17,273
Marc Preston: America?
926
00:34:17,313 --> 00:34:17,836
Marc Preston: Where was it?
927
00:34:17,876 --> 00:34:19,341
Marc Preston: Where did you post up first, to kind of
928
00:34:19,361 --> 00:34:19,622
Marc Preston: start?
929
00:34:20,103 --> 00:34:21,506
Graham McTavish: Birmingham, alabama.
930
00:34:21,806 --> 00:34:22,929
Marc Preston: Birmingham, Alabama.
931
00:34:23,229 --> 00:34:23,690
Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah.
932
00:34:23,891 --> 00:34:27,944
Graham McTavish: Well, we organized a tour, so we had done,
933
00:34:29,127 --> 00:34:31,654
Graham McTavish: we had managed to get all of these art
934
00:34:31,714 --> 00:34:34,242
Graham McTavish: institutions in America because we done it
935
00:34:34,302 --> 00:34:36,651
Graham McTavish: at the National Gallery in London to book
936
00:34:36,732 --> 00:34:36,812
Graham McTavish: us.
937
00:34:37,013 --> 00:34:38,740
Graham McTavish: So we did the Metropolitan Museum of Art in
938
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,306
Graham McTavish: New York, we did the Art Institute of
939
00:34:40,346 --> 00:34:43,577
Graham McTavish: Chicago, LA County Museum, chicago.
940
00:34:43,597 --> 00:34:45,062
Graham McTavish: You know, we're Cleveland, we did it
941
00:34:45,162 --> 00:34:45,524
Graham McTavish: everywhere.
942
00:34:45,945 --> 00:34:47,851
Graham McTavish: But the first place was Birmingham, alabama,
943
00:34:48,614 --> 00:34:50,199
Graham McTavish: and it was fantastic.
944
00:34:50,219 --> 00:34:52,443
Graham McTavish: I mean that was 1987.
945
00:34:53,484 --> 00:34:55,427
Graham McTavish: And it was.
946
00:34:56,468 --> 00:34:57,990
Graham McTavish: I mean we would, i was 26.
947
00:34:59,813 --> 00:35:02,216
Graham McTavish: We just we arrived, we'd made all the props,
948
00:35:02,420 --> 00:35:04,766
Graham McTavish: my friend had painted reproductions of Van
949
00:35:04,787 --> 00:35:06,290
Graham McTavish: Gogh's work because he was, he was a great
950
00:35:06,431 --> 00:35:08,944
Graham McTavish: artist, my friend is a great artist.
951
00:35:09,686 --> 00:35:14,176
Graham McTavish: And we just we started there And we were
952
00:35:14,196 --> 00:35:15,218
Graham McTavish: going to New York next.
953
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,334
Graham McTavish: And I remember When we told the people in
954
00:35:18,635 --> 00:35:20,140
Graham McTavish: Alabama that we were going to New York,
955
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:22,318
Graham McTavish: they, they, what they said oh, you want to
956
00:35:22,338 --> 00:35:25,233
Graham McTavish: be careful, you want to be careful, yankees
957
00:35:25,313 --> 00:35:25,614
Graham McTavish: up there.
958
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:27,855
Marc Preston: Birmingham has a little more of an artsy
959
00:35:27,895 --> 00:35:30,051
Marc Preston: scene, more of a restaurant, you know like
960
00:35:30,451 --> 00:35:30,552
Marc Preston: it.
961
00:35:30,592 --> 00:35:33,037
Marc Preston: You know artsy people, from a way I
962
00:35:33,077 --> 00:35:35,321
Marc Preston: understand, gravitate to that, to that town.
963
00:35:35,762 --> 00:35:37,112
Graham McTavish: Yeah, It was a.
964
00:35:37,453 --> 00:35:38,578
Graham McTavish: it was a fun experience.
965
00:35:39,250 --> 00:35:39,350
Marc Preston: Now.
966
00:35:39,792 --> 00:35:42,379
Marc Preston: So you ended up in New York, i'm assuming.
967
00:35:42,499 --> 00:35:43,971
Marc Preston: Based on the work you were doing, did you
968
00:35:44,031 --> 00:35:45,716
Marc Preston: also head to LA and live there?
969
00:35:45,737 --> 00:35:49,617
Marc Preston: for a live in LA, no no, no, we didn't.
970
00:35:49,737 --> 00:35:51,802
Graham McTavish: We didn't really live in America.
971
00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:56,458
Graham McTavish: We toured America, so that was, that was
972
00:35:56,498 --> 00:35:56,960
Graham McTavish: what we did.
973
00:35:57,090 --> 00:35:59,596
Graham McTavish: So we would go out there, in because
974
00:35:59,656 --> 00:36:01,581
Graham McTavish: Britain was so miserable in January,
975
00:36:01,641 --> 00:36:02,423
Graham McTavish: february, march.
976
00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:05,397
Graham McTavish: We would just construct tours to take us
977
00:36:05,457 --> 00:36:07,342
Graham McTavish: out of the country every January, february,
978
00:36:07,382 --> 00:36:07,602
Graham McTavish: march.
979
00:36:07,970 --> 00:36:09,295
Graham McTavish: So we went to America.
980
00:36:09,797 --> 00:36:10,619
Graham McTavish: We went there three times.
981
00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:12,116
Graham McTavish: We went to Australia in January, february,
982
00:36:12,176 --> 00:36:12,357
Graham McTavish: march.
983
00:36:12,731 --> 00:36:13,875
Graham McTavish: So we were always somewhere warm.
984
00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:17,052
Graham McTavish: That was, that was the goal It was.
985
00:36:17,353 --> 00:36:18,836
Marc Preston: That's the one thing that would keep me
986
00:36:18,917 --> 00:36:19,378
Marc Preston: from wanting it.
987
00:36:19,538 --> 00:36:21,632
Marc Preston: Just, it always seems gray and cold and
988
00:36:21,672 --> 00:36:23,277
Marc Preston: rainy, but it's such beautiful, both
989
00:36:23,457 --> 00:36:25,252
Marc Preston: Scotland and Ireland, And it just.
990
00:36:26,075 --> 00:36:27,621
Marc Preston: You look at that part of the world, it's
991
00:36:27,641 --> 00:36:29,990
Marc Preston: just green and rolling hills.
992
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:31,837
Marc Preston: And it's just absolutely stunningly
993
00:36:31,897 --> 00:36:32,278
Marc Preston: beautiful.
994
00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:34,374
Marc Preston: And, of course, you know, seeing y'all
995
00:36:34,394 --> 00:36:36,620
Marc Preston: doing your road trip in that van, which is,
996
00:36:37,141 --> 00:36:38,715
Marc Preston: you know, you and Sam, of course kind of
997
00:36:38,756 --> 00:36:38,916
Marc Preston: open.
998
00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:40,336
Marc Preston: I want to watch some of the rest of it
999
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:41,032
Marc Preston: Because I want to.
00:36:41,353 --> 00:36:43,017
Marc Preston: I want to dial in a little bit more of my
00:36:43,097 --> 00:36:45,754
Marc Preston: Scottish lineage, understand a little bit
00:36:45,814 --> 00:36:46,055
Marc Preston: more.
00:36:46,336 --> 00:36:47,099
Graham McTavish: You'll understand.
00:36:47,331 --> 00:36:47,572
Marc Preston: Yes.
00:36:47,974 --> 00:36:50,535
Graham McTavish: Yes, the the feuding nature of the Scots.
00:36:51,277 --> 00:36:53,702
Graham McTavish: You know, the days never complete unless
00:36:53,743 --> 00:36:55,756
Graham McTavish: they're they're feuding with somebody else.
00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:59,397
Graham McTavish: It's, it's a reMarcable talent that they
00:36:59,457 --> 00:37:01,482
Graham McTavish: have, which they exported to America, of
00:37:01,542 --> 00:37:05,540
Graham McTavish: course, with Hatfields and McCoys, and you
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,648
Graham McTavish: know they, they, yeah, they're Scottish.
00:37:08,129 --> 00:37:09,532
Graham McTavish: You know they just went there and
00:37:11,016 --> 00:37:12,839
Graham McTavish: replicated what they'd been doing in
00:37:12,899 --> 00:37:14,302
Graham McTavish: Scotland for hundreds of years.
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:17,977
Marc Preston: They're a very tenacious, tenacious clan,
00:37:18,538 --> 00:37:19,661
Marc Preston: or clans rather.
00:37:19,822 --> 00:37:21,556
Marc Preston: Yes, but one of the things I'm curious
00:37:21,576 --> 00:37:23,845
Marc Preston: about I totally forgot you did this but
00:37:24,608 --> 00:37:27,017
Marc Preston: back in the early 2000s love watching 24.
00:37:27,451 --> 00:37:29,662
Marc Preston: And you had your kind of your swing on 24,
00:37:29,682 --> 00:37:31,190
Marc Preston: you're a bad Russian dude, yeah.
00:37:31,453 --> 00:37:32,790
Marc Preston: So what was that experience like?
00:37:32,911 --> 00:37:34,620
Marc Preston: Any you know, you're the third or fourth
00:37:35,022 --> 00:37:36,630
Marc Preston: gentleman I've spoken with who was on 24.
00:37:36,752 --> 00:37:36,955
Announcer: What was?
00:37:36,975 --> 00:37:37,890
Marc Preston: that experience like.
00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:40,162
Marc Preston: That seemed like a fast paced kind of
00:37:40,223 --> 00:37:40,786
Marc Preston: experience.
00:37:41,128 --> 00:37:43,878
Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i mean, i love I was a massive
00:37:43,938 --> 00:37:46,667
Graham McTavish: fan of 24, a massive fan which I kept
00:37:46,707 --> 00:37:49,315
Graham McTavish: embarrassing myself with on set constantly
00:37:49,355 --> 00:37:51,260
Graham McTavish: telling the users how much of a fan I was
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:51,701
Graham McTavish: at the show.
00:37:52,191 --> 00:37:53,160
Graham McTavish: It got to the point where they were going
00:37:53,181 --> 00:37:54,170
Graham McTavish: yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:55,797
Graham McTavish: Ok, graham, we, we, we get it.
00:37:56,350 --> 00:37:58,879
Graham McTavish: We just need you to become Mikhail
00:37:58,999 --> 00:38:01,868
Graham McTavish: Novakovich now and be the Russian
00:38:01,929 --> 00:38:02,330
Graham McTavish: ambassador.
00:38:02,491 --> 00:38:04,158
Graham McTavish: Don't, don't, don't talk about your fandom,
00:38:05,571 --> 00:38:07,713
Graham McTavish: but it was, it was great, i mean, it's it,
00:38:07,833 --> 00:38:08,334
Graham McTavish: it.
00:38:09,337 --> 00:38:13,227
Graham McTavish: I think people forget how revolutionary 24
00:38:13,308 --> 00:38:14,673
Graham McTavish: was, Yeah That.
00:38:14,915 --> 00:38:17,309
Marc Preston: I think that's before streaming, of course.
00:38:17,330 --> 00:38:17,410
Graham McTavish: Yeah.
00:38:17,893 --> 00:38:20,789
Marc Preston: Before before, as many options have been 24.
00:38:21,314 --> 00:38:23,190
Marc Preston: That was appointment TV right there.
00:38:25,077 --> 00:38:26,020
Graham McTavish: Oh yeah.
00:38:26,673 --> 00:38:27,257
Marc Preston: I mean I was, i don't.
00:38:27,358 --> 00:38:28,910
Marc Preston: I mean what shows are out there now?
00:38:29,311 --> 00:38:31,179
Marc Preston: It may have course like Game of Thrones and
00:38:32,082 --> 00:38:34,652
Marc Preston: you know, things like that, which I still I
00:38:34,672 --> 00:38:35,274
Marc Preston: have to admit.
00:38:35,475 --> 00:38:36,819
Marc Preston: I was speaking with somebody the other day.
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:38,574
Marc Preston: I said I you know, there's just some,
00:38:38,594 --> 00:38:40,158
Marc Preston: there's so much stuff out there now.
00:38:40,259 --> 00:38:41,602
Marc Preston: Yes, there are things I'll miss.
00:38:41,870 --> 00:38:43,214
Marc Preston: And so and so.
00:38:43,394 --> 00:38:45,600
Marc Preston: No, yeah, i'm, I'm planning on, i'm waiting,
00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:47,558
Marc Preston: because I got two children in college.
00:38:47,618 --> 00:38:49,311
Marc Preston: Now one's about to do their gap year, so
00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:51,318
Marc Preston: finally the TV gets to be 100 percent mine
00:38:51,338 --> 00:38:51,759
Marc Preston: to watch.
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:54,058
Graham McTavish: You know there's so much.
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:56,756
Graham McTavish: So you know, in the time that you're
00:38:56,776 --> 00:38:59,923
Graham McTavish: waiting to watch you know eight seasons of
00:39:00,731 --> 00:39:02,815
Graham McTavish: Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon,
00:39:03,817 --> 00:39:07,183
Graham McTavish: you will you'll be having other shows that
00:39:07,203 --> 00:39:07,904
Graham McTavish: you'll want to watch.
00:39:08,224 --> 00:39:09,473
Graham McTavish: Yeah, you know, i've never seen the wire.
00:39:10,095 --> 00:39:11,219
Graham McTavish: You know everyone's always going.
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,914
Marc Preston: Neither have I And again I go back to
00:39:12,954 --> 00:39:14,058
Marc Preston: Anthony Bourdain mentioned that.
00:39:14,271 --> 00:39:15,294
Marc Preston: I think he said that was one of his
00:39:15,335 --> 00:39:16,238
Marc Preston: favorite shows ever.
00:39:17,332 --> 00:39:18,577
Marc Preston: The same production team did.
00:39:18,851 --> 00:39:19,936
Marc Preston: I was down in New Orleans.
00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:22,662
Marc Preston: They were shooting Treme Treme.
00:39:22,682 --> 00:39:23,145
Marc Preston: Can you say?
00:39:23,165 --> 00:39:23,305
Announcer: that.
00:39:23,325 --> 00:39:25,834
Marc Preston: They've never seen that either, and in fact
00:39:25,874 --> 00:39:26,275
Marc Preston: I saw your.
00:39:26,295 --> 00:39:28,540
Marc Preston: I auditioned for Preacher a few times.
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,034
Marc Preston: I saw you were in that And I didn't get
00:39:31,155 --> 00:39:32,679
Marc Preston: more than trying to remember what did you
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,461
Marc Preston: do in Preacher.
00:39:33,550 --> 00:39:34,374
Marc Preston: I'm trying to remember.
00:39:34,671 --> 00:39:35,936
Marc Preston: I was the saint of killers.
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:38,096
Marc Preston: I've only gotten in like two or three
00:39:38,137 --> 00:39:39,837
Marc Preston: episodes into that show, so I need to go
00:39:39,897 --> 00:39:40,483
Marc Preston: further in.
00:39:40,786 --> 00:39:42,373
Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, so the saint of killers.
00:39:43,034 --> 00:39:45,661
Graham McTavish: It was literally a dream for me to do that
00:39:45,721 --> 00:39:48,236
Graham McTavish: role, because I loved the graphic novels
00:39:48,737 --> 00:39:49,580
Graham McTavish: and I loved him.
00:39:51,010 --> 00:39:54,217
Graham McTavish: So he's yeah, i mean, look, you know,
00:39:54,237 --> 00:39:55,599
Graham McTavish: playing a character called the saint of
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:55,980
Graham McTavish: killers.
00:39:57,002 --> 00:39:57,784
Graham McTavish: Yeah, it's going to be fun.
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:59,657
Graham McTavish: So we're, we're, we're the ball.
00:40:00,371 --> 00:40:00,551
Marc Preston: I do.
00:40:00,652 --> 00:40:02,658
Marc Preston: I do have to ask, being a part of the
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,806
Marc Preston: Hobbit and the Peter Jackson ecosystem,
00:40:05,387 --> 00:40:06,130
Marc Preston: what was that like?
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:08,057
Marc Preston: What was it comparatively to the other
00:40:08,117 --> 00:40:08,859
Marc Preston: stuff you've done?
00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:10,835
Marc Preston: You know what, what, what, how has that
00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:14,003
Marc Preston: experience any different or unique and fine,
00:40:14,450 --> 00:40:18,619
Marc Preston: oh, well, certainly, up to that point, i'd
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,564
Marc Preston: never experienced anything like it.
00:40:20,650 --> 00:40:24,099
Graham McTavish: I don't think any of us had just the sheer
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,723
Graham McTavish: scale of it.
00:40:26,131 --> 00:40:28,639
Graham McTavish: It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a juggernaut,
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,321
Graham McTavish: it's enormous.
00:40:30,711 --> 00:40:31,613
Graham McTavish: So, you know, we shot.
00:40:31,733 --> 00:40:33,197
Graham McTavish: I can't even remember how many hundreds of
00:40:33,237 --> 00:40:35,382
Graham McTavish: days that we shot on it over two and a half
00:40:35,422 --> 00:40:35,683
Graham McTavish: years.
00:40:36,850 --> 00:40:40,175
Graham McTavish: But you, you, you became a sort of family,
00:40:40,596 --> 00:40:44,141
Graham McTavish: especially the dwarves, because you were
00:40:44,402 --> 00:40:47,992
Graham McTavish: uniquely clad in all of this stuff, the
00:40:48,012 --> 00:40:50,402
Graham McTavish: prosthetics and the costumes which you know.
00:40:50,422 --> 00:40:53,314
Graham McTavish: My costume weighed nearly 70 pounds, so it
00:40:53,374 --> 00:40:53,514
Graham McTavish: was.
00:40:53,755 --> 00:40:55,400
Graham McTavish: It was like running around with a person on
00:40:55,421 --> 00:40:55,782
Graham McTavish: your back.
00:40:56,952 --> 00:40:57,373
Graham McTavish: So it was.
00:40:57,473 --> 00:41:01,162
Graham McTavish: It was a very intense experience, but but
00:41:01,342 --> 00:41:02,224
Graham McTavish: truly wonderful.
00:41:03,851 --> 00:41:06,015
Graham McTavish: I remember, you know, any time that you
00:41:06,055 --> 00:41:09,581
Graham McTavish: would be feel tired or fatigued or you just
00:41:09,621 --> 00:41:11,784
Graham McTavish: wanted to go home, i would remind myself
00:41:11,824 --> 00:41:13,066
Graham McTavish: how lucky I was to be there.
00:41:13,955 --> 00:41:14,900
Graham McTavish: And it was.
00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:16,387
Graham McTavish: It was an amazing experience, yeah.
00:41:17,633 --> 00:41:19,421
Marc Preston: I need to get to New Zealand and just I,
00:41:19,441 --> 00:41:20,927
Marc Preston: just it's one of the places it's such a
00:41:21,168 --> 00:41:23,337
Marc Preston: it's such a it's such a unique history too.
00:41:23,590 --> 00:41:24,513
Announcer: It's a beautiful place.
00:41:24,694 --> 00:41:25,617
Marc Preston: It's an incredible country.
00:41:25,657 --> 00:41:28,552
Marc Preston: Yeah, you should go, but of course you are.
00:41:28,632 --> 00:41:30,555
Marc Preston: you are my Sherpa of all things, scotland,
00:41:30,795 --> 00:41:31,056
Marc Preston: you know.
00:41:31,076 --> 00:41:32,478
Marc Preston: so I'm going to be, you know, because I'm
00:41:32,498 --> 00:41:33,780
Marc Preston: going to be watching the show, like
00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:35,964
Marc Preston: afterwards going it, you know, i learned a
00:41:36,024 --> 00:41:36,505
Marc Preston: new thing.
00:41:36,971 --> 00:41:39,076
Marc Preston: So the, the Men and Kilt, are y'all coming
00:41:39,096 --> 00:41:40,961
Marc Preston: out with a new season of that soon, or is
00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:41,222
Marc Preston: that?
00:41:42,690 --> 00:41:46,160
Graham McTavish: August the 11th is when it starts on stars.
00:41:47,552 --> 00:41:51,457
Graham McTavish: We begin there, and the book that deals
00:41:51,657 --> 00:41:55,082
Graham McTavish: with the experience of shooting that show
00:41:55,182 --> 00:41:57,646
Graham McTavish: in New Zealand, clanlands in New Zealand,
00:41:58,227 --> 00:41:59,609
Graham McTavish: is published on November the 7th.
00:42:00,210 --> 00:42:01,856
Marc Preston: So Okay, so the book is very good.
00:42:01,896 --> 00:42:04,774
Marc Preston: Yeah, that's, that's because I so want to
00:42:04,834 --> 00:42:05,615
Marc Preston: learn a little bit more.
00:42:05,675 --> 00:42:06,937
Marc Preston: Because, like I said, i went down that
00:42:06,997 --> 00:42:09,241
Marc Preston: rabbit hole and realized, oh, my family,
00:42:09,421 --> 00:42:11,164
Marc Preston: many, many, many, i think 16 great
00:42:11,184 --> 00:42:13,427
Marc Preston: grandfathers back was the one who, maybe a
00:42:13,447 --> 00:42:15,410
Marc Preston: little bit more, financed the Mayflower.
00:42:15,712 --> 00:42:16,496
Marc Preston: That's kind of a.
00:42:17,342 --> 00:42:19,211
Marc Preston: It probably goes further back than that I
00:42:19,452 --> 00:42:20,294
Marc Preston: buy a lot of track.
00:42:20,314 --> 00:42:22,099
Graham McTavish: but it was such an interesting to be able
00:42:22,139 --> 00:42:24,846
Graham McTavish: to draw a line between then and now and go,
00:42:24,966 --> 00:42:27,134
Graham McTavish: wow, that's, i know I know, i know It's a
00:42:27,556 --> 00:42:29,326
Graham McTavish: yeah, we've written a couple of three, but
00:42:29,346 --> 00:42:31,219
Graham McTavish: this is the third book, so we wrote one on
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,093
Graham McTavish: the first season as well And then we did
00:42:33,113 --> 00:42:33,736
Graham McTavish: the now Menach.
00:42:34,410 --> 00:42:36,340
Graham McTavish: But they, you know, the first one covers
00:42:36,455 --> 00:42:38,535
Graham McTavish: Scotland and our experience in Scotland,
00:42:38,555 --> 00:42:40,922
Graham McTavish: and this one covers our experience in New
00:42:40,942 --> 00:42:42,768
Graham McTavish: Zealand and their history and their
00:42:42,788 --> 00:42:43,510
Graham McTavish: connection with Scotland.
00:42:44,979 --> 00:42:45,583
Marc Preston: Now are y'all.
00:42:45,643 --> 00:42:46,650
Marc Preston: Are you working on anything else right now,
00:42:47,957 --> 00:42:49,284
Marc Preston: or is that they have any new shows that are
00:42:49,324 --> 00:42:50,350
Marc Preston: going to be rolling out?
00:42:51,312 --> 00:42:54,277
Graham McTavish: Well, i've just been to the premiere of a
00:42:54,338 --> 00:42:56,141
Graham McTavish: nice independent movie that I did in
00:42:56,181 --> 00:42:57,363
Graham McTavish: Montana last year.
00:42:58,365 --> 00:43:00,489
Graham McTavish: that is due for release next year, i
00:43:00,509 --> 00:43:00,730
Graham McTavish: believe.
00:43:00,750 --> 00:43:01,748
Graham McTavish: Yes, that's when it's going to be.
00:43:01,911 --> 00:43:03,263
Graham McTavish: Well, that's another part of that.
00:43:03,283 --> 00:43:05,498
Marc Preston: That's actually a part of the US That,
00:43:06,041 --> 00:43:07,247
Marc Preston: depending where you are, might remind you a
00:43:07,267 --> 00:43:07,910
Marc Preston: little bit more of Scotland, just
00:43:08,153 --> 00:43:09,444
Marc Preston: graphically, you know.
00:43:09,687 --> 00:43:11,750
Graham McTavish: Yes, and a big Scottish connection there,
00:43:12,934 --> 00:43:14,940
Graham McTavish: actually, i found with the McDonald's,
00:43:15,261 --> 00:43:16,946
Graham McTavish: interestingly enough, but it's called
00:43:16,986 --> 00:43:18,250
Graham McTavish: Somewhere in Montana, so that's coming out.
00:43:19,955 --> 00:43:22,562
Graham McTavish: And then we start shooting on season four
00:43:23,144 --> 00:43:26,660
Graham McTavish: of The Witcher later in the year, So that's
00:43:26,861 --> 00:43:27,869
Graham McTavish: that's that's coming out.
00:43:30,434 --> 00:43:33,038
Graham McTavish: And I worked on Love, death and Robots for
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,726
Graham McTavish: Netflix, which will be coming out I guess
00:43:38,747 --> 00:43:41,686
Graham McTavish: later this year, maybe early next year, i'm
00:43:41,706 --> 00:43:41,969
Graham McTavish: not sure.
00:43:42,111 --> 00:43:43,390
Marc Preston: And I'm doing an independent.
00:43:43,410 --> 00:43:44,484
Graham McTavish: It seems like you're you're.
00:43:44,536 --> 00:43:46,178
Marc Preston: you're working nonstop, though It sounds
00:43:46,198 --> 00:43:47,101
Marc Preston: like you're you're very.
00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:48,953
Marc Preston: Yeah well, it can be.
00:43:49,013 --> 00:43:51,058
Marc Preston: It can be rigorous, though, you know, from
00:43:51,299 --> 00:43:52,422
Marc Preston: one project to travel.
00:43:53,031 --> 00:43:54,978
Graham McTavish: The travel is the hard thing for me now
00:43:55,610 --> 00:43:55,730
Graham McTavish: It's.
00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:56,451
Graham McTavish: It's brutal.
00:43:56,851 --> 00:43:58,532
Graham McTavish: Having Kevin kids in New Zealand doesn't
00:43:58,572 --> 00:43:58,772
Graham McTavish: help.
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,523
Marc Preston: But before we get going, i like to ask what
00:44:07,563 --> 00:44:10,008
Marc Preston: I call my seven questions, and it's a
00:44:10,068 --> 00:44:11,420
Marc Preston: question that Diane asked the whole time.
00:44:11,495 --> 00:44:14,364
Marc Preston: The first one is what your favorite comfort
00:44:14,464 --> 00:44:16,198
Marc Preston: food is, and that really dovetails into
00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:17,863
Marc Preston: something I'm curious about.
00:44:18,575 --> 00:44:19,920
Marc Preston: It could be the same thing or be something
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,261
Marc Preston: different.
00:44:21,417 --> 00:44:23,185
Marc Preston: Growing up, if somebody say, oh yeah, you
00:44:23,225 --> 00:44:25,355
Marc Preston: had that all the time and, scott, i'm from
00:44:25,455 --> 00:44:27,840
Marc Preston: Texas and elsewhere they don't think of
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,885
Marc Preston: having chicken fried steak in the morning
00:44:30,245 --> 00:44:30,766
Marc Preston: with eggs.
00:44:30,806 --> 00:44:32,760
Marc Preston: You know, i think it's something in Texas,
00:44:32,780 --> 00:44:33,343
Marc Preston: depending where you are.
00:44:33,815 --> 00:44:36,622
Marc Preston: Comfort food yeah, cheese, oh, cheese,
00:44:36,882 --> 00:44:37,203
Marc Preston: cheese.
00:44:38,125 --> 00:44:40,058
Marc Preston: I love cheese, partial to any particular
00:44:40,099 --> 00:44:40,420
Marc Preston: cheese.
00:44:40,916 --> 00:44:43,423
Graham McTavish: I'm pretty, you know I'm pretty Catholic in
00:44:43,463 --> 00:44:44,326
Graham McTavish: my tastes of cheese.
00:44:44,595 --> 00:44:46,081
Graham McTavish: I'll eat pretty much any cheese.
00:44:47,295 --> 00:44:49,100
Graham McTavish: I used to sit in front of the TV when I was
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,587
Graham McTavish: a kid with just a block of cheese and just
00:44:51,795 --> 00:44:52,679
Graham McTavish: eat my way through it.
00:44:54,175 --> 00:44:56,062
Graham McTavish: So yes, it's a very strong connection to my
00:44:56,102 --> 00:44:56,483
Graham McTavish: childhood.
00:44:57,397 --> 00:44:58,923
Marc Preston: Yeah, i think I did an okay job with my
00:44:58,963 --> 00:44:59,164
Marc Preston: kids.
00:44:59,215 --> 00:45:01,286
Marc Preston: We'll go to Whole Foods and we'll go to the
00:45:01,306 --> 00:45:02,855
Marc Preston: cheese section, and they'll be totally okay
00:45:02,975 --> 00:45:05,223
Marc Preston: getting the funkiest, stinkiest, runniest
00:45:05,243 --> 00:45:05,443
Marc Preston: cheese.
00:45:06,055 --> 00:45:07,864
Marc Preston: They understand that the smellier it is,
00:45:07,884 --> 00:45:09,311
Marc Preston: the more interesting the taste will be, and
00:45:09,693 --> 00:45:11,180
Marc Preston: sometimes it shocks me the stuff they'll
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:11,341
Marc Preston: eat.
00:45:11,575 --> 00:45:13,801
Marc Preston: But as I've gotten older, though, i'm like
00:45:13,841 --> 00:45:15,105
Marc Preston: keeping an eye on the cholesterol, so I'm
00:45:15,125 --> 00:45:15,646
Marc Preston: like I don't know.
00:45:15,975 --> 00:45:17,278
Marc Preston: It's like you know some things you got to
00:45:17,298 --> 00:45:20,486
Marc Preston: let just let go and do it Exactly, Exactly
00:45:21,655 --> 00:45:23,199
Marc Preston: Now, real quick, like if you were to say
00:45:23,260 --> 00:45:25,064
Marc Preston: Scotland, though, what would they mean
00:45:25,185 --> 00:45:26,957
Marc Preston: outside of Haggis or Benito's Haggis?
00:45:27,158 --> 00:45:29,063
Marc Preston: but what is something that is pretty
00:45:29,164 --> 00:45:29,685
Marc Preston: ubiquitous.
00:45:30,135 --> 00:45:31,878
Marc Preston: Everybody had it either as a dinner item,
00:45:32,499 --> 00:45:35,605
Marc Preston: something for breakfast Kippers Ah, okay,
00:45:35,966 --> 00:45:37,048
Marc Preston: Smoked kippers, right.
00:45:37,068 --> 00:45:39,198
Graham McTavish: Kippers yes, My father used to stink the
00:45:39,238 --> 00:45:41,365
Graham McTavish: kitchen out regularly with smoked kippers.
00:45:42,758 --> 00:45:45,064
Marc Preston: Well, that's a fantastic and that they are
00:45:45,224 --> 00:45:46,267
Marc Preston: kind of the same way in Holland.
00:45:46,355 --> 00:45:47,559
Marc Preston: I think they love their kippers there as
00:45:47,619 --> 00:45:47,859
Marc Preston: well.
00:45:48,642 --> 00:45:52,085
Marc Preston: All right Now if you were to sit down and
00:45:52,105 --> 00:45:52,728
Marc Preston: have next question.
00:45:52,748 --> 00:45:54,597
Marc Preston: have a cup of coffee, you and three people
00:45:54,757 --> 00:45:57,026
Marc Preston: that now, living or not, who would be kind
00:45:57,046 --> 00:45:59,235
Marc Preston: of nice to spend a few hours with three
00:45:59,355 --> 00:46:00,558
Marc Preston: people you can think of to have
00:46:00,638 --> 00:46:02,221
Marc Preston: conversation for a bit?
00:46:02,301 --> 00:46:04,005
Marc Preston: Oh boy.
00:46:04,446 --> 00:46:07,633
Graham McTavish: Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, that's a big ask.
00:46:07,713 --> 00:46:10,359
Graham McTavish: Well, shakespeare, definitely That would be
00:46:10,379 --> 00:46:12,443
Graham McTavish: an interesting person to have over for
00:46:12,463 --> 00:46:12,684
Graham McTavish: dinner.
00:46:15,015 --> 00:46:20,145
Graham McTavish: I think somebody like well, from a skank's
00:46:20,166 --> 00:46:21,548
Graham McTavish: point of view, someone like William Wallace,
00:46:22,456 --> 00:46:24,841
Graham McTavish: he'd be interesting to spend an evening
00:46:24,881 --> 00:46:25,002
Graham McTavish: with.
00:46:28,495 --> 00:46:33,222
Graham McTavish: And possibly, let me think, somebody like
00:46:33,803 --> 00:46:38,810
Graham McTavish: well, yeah, i mean, i grew up loving Clint
00:46:38,895 --> 00:46:41,918
Graham McTavish: Eastwood, you see, and so I.
00:46:42,298 --> 00:46:43,621
Graham McTavish: It would be an interesting evening, clint
00:46:43,641 --> 00:46:45,023
Graham McTavish: Eastwood, william Wallace and William
00:46:45,063 --> 00:46:45,544
Graham McTavish: Shakespeare.
00:46:47,006 --> 00:46:48,349
Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, wouldn't be bored.
00:46:49,055 --> 00:46:51,318
Marc Preston: I mean, i think he's directed by Clint
00:46:51,358 --> 00:46:52,700
Marc Preston: Eastwood is very interesting, he's just a
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:53,241
Marc Preston: little different.
00:46:53,541 --> 00:46:54,763
Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i hear that too.
00:46:54,783 --> 00:46:57,266
Marc Preston: Yeah, Yeah, Like instead of yelling action,
00:46:57,286 --> 00:46:59,369
Marc Preston: he's like, okay, go, That's right.
00:47:00,515 --> 00:47:01,939
Marc Preston: It's amazing that guy's in his 90s.
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,045
Marc Preston: What he's still doing I know Inspiring.
00:47:04,575 --> 00:47:05,438
Marc Preston: Now, if you go back, go back in time when
00:47:05,478 --> 00:47:08,528
Marc Preston: you were a young man and the first time you
00:47:08,635 --> 00:47:10,881
Marc Preston: noticed somebody on TV or film who was your
00:47:10,961 --> 00:47:12,826
Marc Preston: first celebrity crush.
00:47:13,175 --> 00:47:14,759
Marc Preston: You just see them and they're like, oh you
00:47:14,940 --> 00:47:16,203
Marc Preston: know, they grabbed your attention out of
00:47:16,223 --> 00:47:16,544
Marc Preston: the gate.
00:47:17,896 --> 00:47:19,903
Graham McTavish: And Tony Curtis in the persuaders.
00:47:20,678 --> 00:47:21,723
Marc Preston: You know, it's really interesting to bring
00:47:21,763 --> 00:47:24,035
Marc Preston: up the Roger Moore thing going thinking 007.
00:47:24,135 --> 00:47:25,940
Marc Preston: I have to ask, though, who is your favorite
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,146
Marc Preston: James Bond, sean Connery, i mean no
00:47:28,166 --> 00:47:28,747
Marc Preston: question.
00:47:28,775 --> 00:47:30,341
Marc Preston: Of course, you know I would say Sean
00:47:30,361 --> 00:47:32,377
Marc Preston: Connery first, and I do have to say I grew
00:47:32,477 --> 00:47:35,222
Marc Preston: up with Roger Moore as being my 007 and my
00:47:35,262 --> 00:47:35,523
Marc Preston: but.
00:47:35,663 --> 00:47:41,020
Marc Preston: Daniel Craig they paid homage like with,
00:47:41,261 --> 00:47:42,906
Marc Preston: with, uh, I can't remember.
00:47:43,809 --> 00:47:45,896
Marc Preston: The movie was named after the estate that
00:47:45,936 --> 00:47:47,282
Marc Preston: he grew up on as a young child.
00:47:47,595 --> 00:47:48,479
Graham McTavish: But Skyfall.
00:47:48,579 --> 00:47:49,001
Marc Preston: Skyfall.
00:47:49,415 --> 00:47:51,681
Marc Preston: So James Bond was Scottish, which I didn't
00:47:51,741 --> 00:47:53,466
Marc Preston: really put two and two together till later.
00:47:53,715 --> 00:47:56,703
Graham McTavish: So well, yeah, i mean that's what Sam
00:47:56,743 --> 00:47:57,646
Graham McTavish: Mendes decided.
00:47:57,935 --> 00:47:59,819
Graham McTavish: But yes, I mean I don't.
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,403
Graham McTavish: I mean I think you know when you read the
00:48:01,443 --> 00:48:03,427
Graham McTavish: books, yeah, it's interesting.
00:48:04,055 --> 00:48:06,229
Graham McTavish: I mean, connery brought real danger to the
00:48:06,302 --> 00:48:08,149
Graham McTavish: character, which is very important if
00:48:08,222 --> 00:48:09,726
Graham McTavish: you're a fan of the books.
00:48:10,235 --> 00:48:12,382
Marc Preston: I took a cruise with my children down to
00:48:13,084 --> 00:48:13,625
Marc Preston: the Caribbean.
00:48:13,735 --> 00:48:16,061
Marc Preston: We went to Jamaica and I really wanted to
00:48:16,141 --> 00:48:18,968
Marc Preston: go to where, uh, where the, where the books
00:48:18,995 --> 00:48:20,440
Marc Preston: were written, because it's, it's like a
00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:21,865
Marc Preston: resortish golden.
00:48:21,955 --> 00:48:23,801
Marc Preston: I, yeah, and I do, we do, we just didn't
00:48:23,841 --> 00:48:25,185
Marc Preston: have time to, but I wanted to go.
00:48:25,495 --> 00:48:28,343
Marc Preston: But um, now, speaking of an island, the
00:48:28,383 --> 00:48:29,766
Marc Preston: next question if you were to be forced to
00:48:29,807 --> 00:48:31,439
Marc Preston: live on an exotic island, somewhere you
00:48:31,459 --> 00:48:33,284
Marc Preston: want to be, it's nice, but it doesn't have
00:48:33,344 --> 00:48:36,118
Marc Preston: streaming internet, so you're going to need
00:48:36,138 --> 00:48:38,483
Marc Preston: to bring, uh, to listen to music, one DVD,
00:48:38,864 --> 00:48:41,924
Marc Preston: uh, one CD rather, and also a movie you can
00:48:41,973 --> 00:48:42,911
Marc Preston: watch over and over again.
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:43,508
Marc Preston: What would be a?
00:48:43,558 --> 00:48:45,734
Marc Preston: what would be the DVD you want to bring?
00:48:45,935 --> 00:48:48,800
Marc Preston: So, a movie and an album, the DVD, like a
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,743
Marc Preston: TV show, you mean?
00:48:51,358 --> 00:48:53,036
Marc Preston: Uh, that's true, it could be a TV show, it
00:48:53,076 --> 00:48:54,701
Marc Preston: could be a movie, something you can watch
00:48:55,022 --> 00:48:55,463
Marc Preston: over and over.
00:48:57,539 --> 00:49:00,005
Graham McTavish: Um, it's a mad, mad, mad mad world.
00:49:00,675 --> 00:49:01,318
Graham McTavish: I love that film.
00:49:02,598 --> 00:49:04,698
Marc Preston: I love that film Now, musically, what, what,
00:49:04,738 --> 00:49:06,463
Marc Preston: what would be the album you'd want to have
00:49:06,483 --> 00:49:06,804
Marc Preston: with you?
00:49:07,185 --> 00:49:07,766
Graham McTavish: Oh gosh.
00:49:08,015 --> 00:49:11,324
Graham McTavish: Well, probably it would have to be an album
00:49:11,344 --> 00:49:13,618
Graham McTavish: that I grew up with, so it would either be
00:49:13,638 --> 00:49:18,047
Graham McTavish: the clash or it would be maybe Pink Floyd,
00:49:18,568 --> 00:49:19,069
Graham McTavish: something like that.
00:49:19,315 --> 00:49:21,043
Marc Preston: I would like to see a resurgence of love
00:49:21,083 --> 00:49:23,574
Marc Preston: and affection for the what, what, what I
00:49:23,594 --> 00:49:25,599
Marc Preston: could be, we'd be called retro music now,
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:28,524
Marc Preston: but there was such a such a definitive era.
00:49:28,765 --> 00:49:29,506
Marc Preston: You know things like that.
00:49:29,526 --> 00:49:33,662
Marc Preston: Yeah, that was um now, if you were to go
00:49:33,762 --> 00:49:35,346
Marc Preston: next question from the time you wake up in
00:49:35,366 --> 00:49:36,638
Marc Preston: the morning until the time you go to bed,
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,745
Marc Preston: what would be the component parts?
00:49:38,915 --> 00:49:41,744
Marc Preston: How would you define a perfect day for you?
00:49:42,195 --> 00:49:43,921
Marc Preston: You know what would be the pieces of that
00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:44,503
Marc Preston: perfect day?
00:49:45,055 --> 00:49:50,069
Graham McTavish: Gosh good cup of coffee, followed by a good
00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:54,752
Graham McTavish: walk, followed by lunch with my kids,
00:49:55,143 --> 00:49:59,586
Graham McTavish: followed by I don't know a cycle ride.
00:50:00,015 --> 00:50:01,260
Graham McTavish: That would be a great thing to have.
00:50:02,635 --> 00:50:06,323
Graham McTavish: And, uh, going to see a movie at the cinema
00:50:07,164 --> 00:50:09,957
Graham McTavish: with my closest friends That would be a
00:50:09,997 --> 00:50:10,459
Graham McTavish: great day.
00:50:11,281 --> 00:50:12,897
Marc Preston: That is really, really nice And I like that
00:50:12,977 --> 00:50:14,243
Marc Preston: it starts off with a cup of coffee.
00:50:14,275 --> 00:50:15,277
Marc Preston: I can identify with that.
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Marc Preston: But it's not tea, Is it?
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Marc Preston: So why is it not tea?
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Marc Preston: Why is it coffee?
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Marc Preston: I have to ask a gentleman from your neck of
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Marc Preston: the woods I just, i just, uh, i've
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Marc Preston: transitioned into coffee, yeah.
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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, i would again when that trip
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Marc Preston: down to, uh, jamaica, we got a big bank of
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Marc Preston: coffee.
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Marc Preston: We got a big bank of this blue mountain
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Marc Preston: coffee And I and I'm telling you that is
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Marc Preston: some of the it's expensive as heck to get
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Marc Preston: if you're not there, but it's so that's
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Marc Preston: like my favorite coffee now.
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Marc Preston: Um, now, last couple of questions.
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Marc Preston: If you weren't doing this, if you did not
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Marc Preston: end up being a Thespian, having the career
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Marc Preston: you had, what would be the other path you
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Marc Preston: would be on?
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Marc Preston: Uh.
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Graham McTavish: I would have been a pilot.
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Graham McTavish: I would have been an airline pilot.
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Graham McTavish: That's what I was getting ready to do.
00:50:57,815 --> 00:50:59,861
Graham McTavish: I was going to join the RAF and I was going
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Graham McTavish: to follow in my father's footsteps.
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Marc Preston: Uh, did you?
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Marc Preston: did you ever do your pilots, uh, private
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Marc Preston: pilots license?
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Marc Preston: Sadly not, sadly not.
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Marc Preston: No, a great regret.
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Marc Preston: But the last question I've got for you if
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Marc Preston: you were to have that DeLorean and go back
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Marc Preston: in time and you had just a few minutes with
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Marc Preston: 16 year old you piece of advice that you'd
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Marc Preston: want to impart either make that moment of
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Marc Preston: your life better or maybe put you on a
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Marc Preston: little bit different of a path What advice
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Marc Preston: would you have for 16 year old Graham?
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Graham McTavish: I wouldn't want to give put myself on a
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Graham McTavish: different path, to be honest, I would just,
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Graham McTavish: I would just tell him to trust your
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Graham McTavish: instincts really and not worry so much.
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Marc Preston: That's.
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Marc Preston: One of the most common responses is don't
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Marc Preston: worry, trust the process, go through it.
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Marc Preston: Don't, don't stress yourself, um, because,
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Marc Preston: like you were saying, all those decisions
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Marc Preston: you make, you don't know the sequence of
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Marc Preston: events that get you from there to here.
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Marc Preston: Yeah Well, graham, thank you.
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Marc Preston: I do want to thank you for taking time out.
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Marc Preston: It really is special.
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Marc Preston: And again, i appreciate your education on
00:51:55,348 --> 00:51:56,635
Marc Preston: the all things Scotland.
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Marc Preston: Well, i'm going to continue my education.
00:51:58,415 --> 00:51:59,538
Marc Preston: I promise my pleasure.
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Marc Preston: All right, there you go.
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Marc Preston: Mr Graham McTavish, Enjoy this chat quite a
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Marc Preston: bit.
00:52:06,895 --> 00:52:08,780
Marc Preston: Don't forget, he is literally on TV
00:52:09,021 --> 00:52:09,543
Marc Preston: everywhere.
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Marc Preston: He is in House of the Dragon, the game of
00:52:13,162 --> 00:52:14,726
Marc Preston: Thrones prequel.
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Marc Preston: It's on HBO Max, or just Max.
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Marc Preston: I'm going to say HBO Max forever, i think.
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Marc Preston: Also, he is an outlander.
00:52:22,521 --> 00:52:26,271
Marc Preston: The stars show and his stars co-star, sam
00:52:26,332 --> 00:52:28,799
Marc Preston: Hewan, got together with him to make the
00:52:28,839 --> 00:52:31,225
Marc Preston: show Men in Kiltz road trip with Sam and
00:52:31,265 --> 00:52:31,586
Marc Preston: Graham.
00:52:31,735 --> 00:52:34,101
Marc Preston: That comes out the new season, that is on
00:52:34,362 --> 00:52:35,625
Marc Preston: August 11th.
00:52:36,295 --> 00:52:37,819
Marc Preston: And of course, you can check out Graham on
00:52:37,859 --> 00:52:40,486
Marc Preston: the show The Witcher on Netflix.
00:52:41,215 --> 00:52:42,500
Marc Preston: And that's it for me today.
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Marc Preston: And again, if you don't mind a little quick
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Marc Preston: You go, have a great rest of your day.
00:53:08,455 --> 00:53:10,179
Marc Preston: If you are working out, if you're driving,
00:53:10,340 --> 00:53:12,485
Marc Preston: whatever you're up to right now, just be
00:53:12,546 --> 00:53:12,806
Marc Preston: safe.
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Marc Preston: I really do appreciate it And we'll get
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Actor
Graham McTavish is a Scottish television and film actor, best known for his roles as Dougal Mackenzie in the popular TV series "Outlander" (2014-16), as Dwalin in the "The Hobbit" trilogy for Peter Jackson (2012-14) as well as the Saint of Killers in AMC's series "Preacher", based on Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon's cult comic book series (2016 onwards). He also starred alongside Sylvester Stallone in "Rambo" (2008) and "Creed" (2015), making him the only actor to perform opposite Rocky AND Rambo. He is also known for his roles in numerous other TV shows and movies including "Red Dwarf" (1998), "24" (2009), "Rome" (2004), "The Finest Hours" (2015) and "Colombiana" (2011). As well as extensive theatre work throughout the UK including The Royal Court, and The Royal National Theatre, he is well known for his voice work on games and animated TV, including "Uncharted 2, 3, and 4", "Call of Duty", "Dante's Inferno", Loki in "Hulk v Thor" and "The Avengers", "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" and "Kung Fu Panda"