Welcome to The Story & Craft Podcast!
July 7, 2023

Graham McTavish | Men in Kilts

Graham McTavish | Men in Kilts

On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with actor, Graham McTavish.  We chat about working on the STARZ series, Outlander, as well as the show he and his Outlander co-star, Sam Heughan created for STARZ, Men and Kilts: A Road Trip with Sam and Graham.  The new season debuts on STARZ on August 11th.  We also chat about acting on the Netflix series, The Witcher, as well as the Game of Thrones prequel, House of The Dragon on Max.

We discuss Graham’s life growing up in Scotland, to his study in London, to decades working and acting in projects around the world.  We also chat about his memorable experiences on TV projects like 24, Preacher and the The Hobbit series of films.  We also touch on his latest projects, including the independent movie Somewhere in Montana and season four of The Witcher.  

It was a pleasure to bring you this intriguing chat with the talented actor and proper Scotsman, Graham McTavish!

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

0:03:13 - Scottish Ancestry and Family History

0:08:32 - Unscripted and Improvisational

0:12:13 - Shakespeare's Folio and Acting Career

0:18:25 - Contradictions in Beautiful New Zealand

0:21:24 - Family Background and Acting Opportunities

0:28:19 - Discovering Passion for Acting

0:34:16 - Touring Across America

0:40:01 - Being in the Hobbit

0:42:46 - Upcoming Projects and Travel Challenges

0:50:43 - Career Paths and Advice

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Transcript
Graham McTavish:

I was a massive fan of 24.


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Graham McTavish: A massive fan which I kept embarrassing



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Graham McTavish: myself with on set, constantly telling the



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Graham McTavish: producers how much of a fan I was at the



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Graham McTavish: show.



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Graham McTavish: It got to the point where they were going



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Graham McTavish: yes, yes, yes, yes.



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Graham McTavish: Okay, graham, we get it.



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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.



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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston Alright



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Marc Preston: Another episode of Story and Craft.



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Marc Preston: I appreciate you taking a moment with me.



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Marc Preston: It is very much appreciated.



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Marc Preston: Today, as I mentioned, graham McTavish,



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Marc Preston: scottish actor, very talented.



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Marc Preston: He is legitimately in everything And I do



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Marc Preston: Also, he stars in the Stars show, Outlander



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Marc Preston: and, of course, the Witcher.



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Marc Preston: On Netflix.



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Marc Preston: He has a show with his Outlander co-star,



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Marc Preston: sam Hewan, though It is called Men and



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Marc Preston: Very interesting show for me right now.



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Marc Preston: It's all things Scotland just discovered



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Marc Preston: I did the Ancestry thing found out.



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Marc Preston: I'm one quarter Scottish, just learned that



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Marc Preston: Really cool show.



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Marc Preston: Really enjoyed it.



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Marc Preston: New episodes, new season that is coming out



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Marc Preston: on August 11th on Stars.



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Marc Preston: So that's Men and Kilt's.



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Marc Preston: We'll talk about that as well as a lot of



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Marc Preston: Really enjoyed the chat with Graham, very



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Marc Preston: So how are you doing today, sir?



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Marc Preston: Good, yeah, very well, thanks, not bad at



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Marc Preston: I'm in London, i'm in London.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, now we are going to touch today on



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Marc Preston: the whole Scottish thing, without a doubt,



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Marc Preston: because I just did the not 23 of me was an



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Marc Preston: ancestry thing And I'm one quarter, one



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Marc Preston: quarter Scottish.



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Marc Preston: I had no, i thought I was.



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Marc Preston: quarter Scottish, one quarter English.



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Marc Preston: I had no idea and did a little research,



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Marc Preston: found out my family actually has a castle



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Graham McTavish: Which clan is that?



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Marc Preston: I think in France it'd be Bouchon, but it's



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Marc Preston: You can go down a rabbit hole with these



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Marc Preston: You know these genetic things here.



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Marc Preston: Did you ever do that, bonnie Chance?



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Graham McTavish: Not the ancestry thing I've done.



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Graham McTavish: What have I done?



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Graham McTavish: A lady offered to do my family tree, and so



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Graham McTavish: that's a sort of Scottish-Irish background



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Graham McTavish: in my family And she, my goodness, my God,



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Graham McTavish: i mean the family tree that she produced is



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Graham McTavish: like six yards long.



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Graham McTavish: Isn't that amazing?



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Graham McTavish: Oh, it doesn't take long.



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Graham McTavish: You don't have to go back that far to



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Marc Preston: If you just go back eight generations,



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Marc Preston: that's something like was it eight or



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Marc Preston: It was very serendipitous because I'm



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Marc Preston: seeing the show with you and Sam I was



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Marc Preston: watching a few days ago.



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Marc Preston: I forgot.



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Marc Preston: I forgot which episode I was watching.



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Marc Preston: I think it was about the Highland games and



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Marc Preston: they had to lift the heavy stone onto the.



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Marc Preston: The putrid and you pass of aggressively



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Marc Preston: You know the young guy, you can lift it,



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Marc Preston: but I can push it off.



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Graham McTavish: Well, i mean, yeah, that I mean all.



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Graham McTavish: all credit to Sam.



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Graham McTavish: That is enormously difficult to do.



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Graham McTavish: that It's one thing to lift two hundred



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Graham McTavish: pounds, like in a gym, but to lift a stone.



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Marc Preston: So, yes, well, the men and kilt thing.



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Marc Preston: How did that come together?



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Marc Preston: How was that?



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Marc Preston: How was that show conceived of and then



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Graham McTavish: Yeah, Well, i always had an interest in



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Graham McTavish: Scottish history, so I had actually written



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Graham McTavish: a treatment for an idea called clan lands



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Graham McTavish: in 1992.



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Graham McTavish: Well, 1991, i think, actually, and the idea



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Graham McTavish: was to explore Scottish clans And that was



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Graham McTavish: what I was interested in.



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Graham McTavish: And I remember talking about this to Sam



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Graham McTavish: and Sam has an interest in Scottish history



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Graham McTavish: as well, of course And then he rang me.



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Graham McTavish: He rang me in New Zealand.



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Graham McTavish: I was in New Zealand, i was in the kitchen



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Graham McTavish: and he said hey mate, why don't we?



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Graham McTavish: we should do something about Scottish



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Graham McTavish: history together.



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Graham McTavish: It would be fun.



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Graham McTavish: Maybe we could do a podcast.



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Marc Preston: Now is he from there as well, Or was he



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Marc Preston: you and then talking about the Scottish



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Graham McTavish: No, no, he was.



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Graham McTavish: He had his own interest in it for sure.



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Graham McTavish: But he remembered me talking about my



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Graham McTavish: interest and thought that it's and I agree



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Graham McTavish: enjoyable when you team up with somebody



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Graham McTavish: that necessarily do more yourself.



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Graham McTavish: So you know, he suggested a podcast and I



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Graham McTavish: didn't even know what a podcast was.



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Graham McTavish: So I sort of went sure, yeah, and then that



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Graham McTavish: quickly was sort of put to one side And



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Graham McTavish: then he suggested doing a recorded kind of



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Graham McTavish: series using gun go pros, which even I knew



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Graham McTavish: was preposterous.



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Graham McTavish: You know the idea of me sitting with a



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Graham McTavish: stupid.



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Graham McTavish: So it didn't take as long to come up with



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Graham McTavish: the idea of doing it, actually filming it



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Graham McTavish: properly.



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Graham McTavish: So we got together a group of people that



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Graham McTavish: we'd worked with in Scotland on Outlander



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Graham McTavish: crew and we we just went out for five



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Graham McTavish: consecutive weekends and we went all over



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Graham McTavish: Scotland and we filled that's it.



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Graham McTavish: Wow, i know, i was just gobsmacked,



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Graham McTavish: Shakespeare's folio was published in 1623.



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Graham McTavish: this is a first edition of that printing of



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Graham McTavish: I certainly did.



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Graham McTavish: I certainly did have a look.



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Marc Preston: No, i get no idea.



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Graham McTavish: Just no interest.



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Graham McTavish: that was really as part of like a debating



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Graham McTavish: society.



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Graham McTavish: They naturally do, they naturally take on



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Graham McTavish: characters, and that they and they can slip



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Graham McTavish: which is a great gift that children have,



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Marc Preston: an actor, i think, just being OK, playing



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Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.



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Graham McTavish: that form of expression And acting allows



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Graham McTavish: you, as an adult, to reconnect with



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Graham McTavish: essentially the child that you have always



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Graham McTavish: been, And I'm sort of a 62-year-old man



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Graham McTavish: trapped in the body of a well the mind.



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Graham McTavish: So I have a 12-year-old really Well.



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Marc Preston: That's how you have a career in acting.



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Marc Preston: You're dialed into that.



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Marc Preston: It's funny.



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Marc Preston: I teach voiceover.



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Marc Preston: Sometimes I'll work with young actors in LA



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Marc Preston: who are working actors young kids.



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Marc Preston: There's this young lady who I'd start



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Marc Preston: working with when she was nine years old



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Marc Preston: and she was on a Disney Channel show And it



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Marc Preston: was amazing to just give her a scenario and



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Marc Preston: see her in the sound booth and say, ok, now



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Marc Preston: play with this.



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Marc Preston: It just takes off, you know.



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Marc Preston: And then going wow, kids have that



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Marc Preston: superpower where they just go there.



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Marc Preston: They're almost suffering from too many



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Marc Preston: choices, you know.



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Graham McTavish: Yeah, well, they don't have that weird



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Graham McTavish: inhibition that we start to place upon



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Graham McTavish: ourselves as we get older And as children



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Graham McTavish: you're not even really seeing it as



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Graham McTavish: performing as such.



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Graham McTavish: It's just being, and you can be, i could be



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Graham McTavish: me, or I can be this other person when I'm



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Graham McTavish: a kid, and it's not like I'm having to oh,



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Graham McTavish: now I have to get into some kind of



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Graham McTavish: character.



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Graham McTavish: It's just like that.



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Marc Preston: You don't see kids being all method.



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Marc Preston: When they try to play cops and robbers, you



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Marc Preston: know they just buy in and they're there.



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Graham McTavish: No, not a lot of Daniel Day-Lewis going on



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Graham McTavish: in the playground.



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Marc Preston: No as far as kids go, do you have any kids



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Marc Preston: at all?



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Graham McTavish: I do.



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Graham McTavish: Yeah, I have a 16 and an 11 year old, both



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Graham McTavish: girls.



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Graham McTavish: Yes.



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Marc Preston: Oh, very good, I've got a.



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Marc Preston: my youngest is 17.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, are they growing up in London?



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Graham McTavish: They're actually in New Zealand, which is



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Graham McTavish: where we we moved to for the Hobbit, and



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Graham McTavish: they've been there with their mother and



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Graham McTavish: then I see them.



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Graham McTavish: In fact they're coming over in a couple of



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Graham McTavish: days for a holiday.



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Graham McTavish: Yeah, i go back three or four times a year



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Graham McTavish: to New Zealand spend time with them.



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Graham McTavish: They come over here a couple of times, so



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Graham McTavish: you know I see them quite a lot, quite a



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Graham McTavish: lot.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, new Zealand, they did.



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Marc Preston: I saw something was voted one of the most



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Marc Preston: The happy God.



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Marc Preston: I was watching something the other day



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Marc Preston: talking about where people are the happiest



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Marc Preston: or the best quality of life And New



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Marc Preston: Zealand's like a top five, i think.



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Graham McTavish: I mean it's an interesting New Zealand's



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Graham McTavish: interesting.



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Graham McTavish: It's interesting, i think there's I mean,



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Graham McTavish: if I'm completely honest, there is somewhat



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Graham McTavish: other of a sort of contradiction in New



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Graham McTavish: Zealand, in that New Zealand is beautiful,



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Graham McTavish: it is utterly beautiful and it is, you know,



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Graham McTavish: i suppose, lord of the.



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Graham McTavish: Rings was filmed.



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Graham McTavish: This is where the Hobbit was filmed.



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Graham McTavish: This is a sort of fantasy land, almost



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Graham McTavish: otherworldly, but it also is far away from



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Graham McTavish: everything, and you feel that when you're



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Graham McTavish: there And I think it's a very, very



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Graham McTavish: wonderful place to grow up, to be a child



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Graham McTavish: And I'm very grateful that my children have



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Graham McTavish: been growing up there I think it starts to



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Graham McTavish: become a little more tricky.



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Graham McTavish: When you get into your late teens, early



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Graham McTavish: twenties.



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Graham McTavish: You feel the need to travel, and so yeah,



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Graham McTavish: would it be.



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Marc Preston: I don't know if the phrase necessarily



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Marc Preston: would be island fever, but is that sense



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Marc Preston: that you are kind of on this, contain space



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Marc Preston: and you kind of?



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Graham McTavish: want to.



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Graham McTavish: They call it in New Zealand.



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Graham McTavish: They call it the tyranny of distance.



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Graham McTavish: So it's you are just conscious that you are



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Graham McTavish: 1200 miles from the nearest landmass, which



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Graham McTavish: is a long walk.



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Graham McTavish: Really, is it that?



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Marc Preston: far from Australia, australia, 1200 miles.



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Marc Preston: Looking at a map you think it's kind of



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Marc Preston: close, but 1200 miles, there's a little bit



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Marc Preston: of a haul.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, it is.



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Marc Preston: Are they?



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Marc Preston: are they any of them kind of potentially



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Marc Preston: following in your footsteps?



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Marc Preston: Are they theatrical?



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Graham McTavish: Are they little little fespians or I mean



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Graham McTavish: you know they've done school plays and



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Graham McTavish: things like that.



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Graham McTavish: I mean I've neither encouraged them or



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Graham McTavish: discouraged them at all.



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Graham McTavish: I think I mean my youngest daughter, i you



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Graham McTavish: know she talks about being a lawyer, she



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Graham McTavish: talks about being all sorts of things.



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Graham McTavish: She's a natural debater.



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Graham McTavish: She could debate you about anything.



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Graham McTavish: And my eldest is interested in the film



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Graham McTavish: industry, but she's interested in it from



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Graham McTavish: behind the camera.



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Graham McTavish: So, and I'm all for that, i'm all for that



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Graham McTavish: because acting is a very it's, it's a very,



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Graham McTavish: very, very difficult path and not to be



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Graham McTavish: taken.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, you definitely need to.



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Marc Preston: what was that phrase?



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Marc Preston: that if you can't imagine yourself doing



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Marc Preston: anything else, then yeah, go for it, but if



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Marc Preston: you can imagine yourself doing a multitude



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Marc Preston: of other things, maybe it's not the thing.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's so funny.



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Marc Preston: You said that a debater thing My youngest



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Marc Preston: is she's the one that calls, calls me out



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Marc Preston: on my nonsense and she's usually right.



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Marc Preston: You know so, but hopefully she doesn't



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Marc Preston: really listen to this, so she won't know.



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Marc Preston: I'm actually giving her credit.



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Marc Preston: Now you were growing up in in Scotland,



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Marc Preston: Were your parents?



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Marc Preston: were you coming from a family of Thespians,



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Marc Preston: or were they of a whole different track?



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Graham McTavish: No, no, not at all.



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Graham McTavish: There was no history at all about.



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Graham McTavish: Well, the only person that did any acting



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Graham McTavish: in my family was my sister, who did it at



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Graham McTavish: school, and so I remember going to see her



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Graham McTavish: in a school production of crime and



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Graham McTavish: punishment, which isn't, you know what you



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Graham McTavish: would imagine would be the obvious choice



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Graham McTavish: for a school play crime and punishment It's



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Graham McTavish: yeah, i mean thinking about it now it's



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Graham McTavish: like wow, but they were a very sort of



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Graham McTavish: forward thinking school And I went to the



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Graham McTavish: same school, but that was the only time.



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Graham McTavish: And she, she was very good, actually she



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Graham McTavish: was very good, but life took her down a



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Graham McTavish: different road.



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Graham McTavish: But my mother, my mother, was picked to be



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Graham McTavish: in a school play when she was young.



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Graham McTavish: But you know, my mother was born in 1922.



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Graham McTavish: And there was no.



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Graham McTavish: There was.



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Graham McTavish: I mean, she came from a working class



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Graham McTavish: family.



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Graham McTavish: I mean there was no possibility of anybody



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Graham McTavish: of that generation and that background



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Graham McTavish: really at that time getting a career in



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Graham McTavish: acting.



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Graham McTavish: It was it'd be very, very, very, very hard,



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Graham McTavish: so it wouldn't have even crossed our mind.



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Graham McTavish: But what I will say is that they were



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Graham McTavish: incredibly encouraging and supportive.



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Marc Preston: Okay, that's good.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, they never, because I've spoken with



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Marc Preston: many people who, when someone decides, hey,



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Marc Preston: i'm gonna do this, acting thing there,



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Marc Preston: usually as one parent or somebody's like



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Marc Preston: you know, sometimes they're trying to



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Marc Preston: protect you by saying you know this is



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Marc Preston: difficult, what are you doing?



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Marc Preston: But?



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Marc Preston: but, but you had the encouragement They



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Marc Preston: were, they were all in on your yeah, I mean



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Marc Preston: my mother.



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Graham McTavish: My mother was somebody that you know.



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Graham McTavish: I could have told her I wanted to do



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Graham McTavish: anything and she would have supported me.



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Graham McTavish: My father, his only concern was the money.



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Marc Preston: It was the money, and when he was your



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Marc Preston: father, the practical one in the family.



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Graham McTavish: Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, he was.



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Graham McTavish: He was a pilot in the Second World War.



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Graham McTavish: He was a civil aviation pilot, but he'd



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Graham McTavish: grown up as a as an apprentice printer in



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Graham McTavish: Glasgow, and so he came from a very strong



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Graham McTavish: working class background And and, weirdly



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Graham McTavish: enough, as I get older, i see many, many



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Graham McTavish: more parallels with my father's life in



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Graham McTavish: terms of how he was as a person.



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Graham McTavish: He wasn't really satisfied with the world



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Graham McTavish: that he grew up in and wanted something



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Graham McTavish: more and wanted to travel, wanted to,



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Graham McTavish: wanted to experience the world, and that's,



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Graham McTavish: that's indeed what he did.



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Graham McTavish: So, in that sense, not that he wanted to be



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Graham McTavish: an actor, but he, he, he, he, every he.



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Graham McTavish: My mother dragged him to every single play



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Graham McTavish: that I ever did, every single one all over



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Graham McTavish: the country Was.



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Marc Preston: you see, was he a commercial airline pilot



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Marc Preston: after the war He did after the Second World



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Marc Preston: War.



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Graham McTavish: Yeah, he was.



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Graham McTavish: He was a bomber pilot in the war And then



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Graham McTavish: he became a commercial airline pilot And so



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Graham McTavish: he was a big aviation nerd.



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Marc Preston: I always love hearing stories of you know



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Marc Preston: going to the flight museums and seeing the



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Marc Preston: old war birds and the.



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Marc Preston: when I learned how to fly I'm not the air



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Marc Preston: the, the, not Academy, a little flight



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Marc Preston: school was right next door to a aviation



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Marc Preston: museum where most of the planes actually



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Marc Preston: still flew And they had a.



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Marc Preston: I don't mean to over romanticize it, it was



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Marc Preston: war after all, but but still, you know



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Marc Preston: that's kind of your father I'm sure had



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Marc Preston: many stories.



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Marc Preston: Oh, yeah, yeah.



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Graham McTavish: I mean he, he grew up again, born in 1922,



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Graham McTavish: where he grew up he was able to see



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Graham McTavish: aircraft.



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Graham McTavish: You know, in the in the early 1930s he was



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Graham McTavish: able to see aircraft flying around where he,



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Graham McTavish: where he lived, and he dreamt of being a



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Graham McTavish: pilot and could never have possibly



671


00:25:11,709 --> 00:25:13,212


Graham McTavish: imagined that he could become one.



672


00:25:13,874 --> 00:25:15,687


Graham McTavish: And it was only the war, like a lot of



673


00:25:15,727 --> 00:25:17,934


Graham McTavish: people, that allowed him to realize that



674


00:25:18,195 --> 00:25:19,118


Graham McTavish: dream really.



675


00:25:20,281 --> 00:25:22,308


Graham McTavish: But he never spoke about the war, never



676


00:25:23,051 --> 00:25:23,493


Graham McTavish: never once.



677


00:25:23,694 --> 00:25:25,340


Marc Preston: Yeah, because he was a young man, when he



678


00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,665


Marc Preston: was still a man in his early 20s.



679


00:25:27,267 --> 00:25:29,152


Marc Preston: When I and looking at my kids, i'm sure you



680


00:25:29,192 --> 00:25:31,198


Marc Preston: kind of do the same thing with the younger



681


00:25:31,258 --> 00:25:33,550


Marc Preston: folk It's like God.



682


00:25:33,591 --> 00:25:35,516


Marc Preston: I cannot imagine being 21, 22.



683


00:25:36,098 --> 00:25:37,703


Graham McTavish: Yeah, he enlisted in when he was.



684


00:25:37,723 --> 00:25:41,612


Graham McTavish: He was 19, when he enlisted, and I cannot



685


00:25:41,772 --> 00:25:43,056


Graham McTavish: even imagine it.



686


00:25:43,898 --> 00:25:46,204


Marc Preston: No, There was a certain discipline in that



687


00:25:46,224 --> 00:25:46,465


Marc Preston: generation.



688


00:25:47,166 --> 00:25:51,694


Graham McTavish: Well, you, you see, you see, I see pictures



689


00:25:51,754 --> 00:25:53,417


Graham McTavish: of him when he was 19.



690


00:25:53,998 --> 00:25:56,647


Graham McTavish: And he just looks like a man, like a man.



691


00:25:57,067 --> 00:26:01,036


Graham McTavish: Not, he's not a teenager, He's a man, And I



692


00:26:01,056 --> 00:26:02,459


Graham McTavish: mean he left school when he was 14.



693


00:26:03,105 --> 00:26:05,711


Graham McTavish: So he'd had a lot of life experience by the



694


00:26:05,752 --> 00:26:06,594


Graham McTavish: time he was 19.



695


00:26:06,674 --> 00:26:08,418


Graham McTavish: But I mean, people were different then,



696


00:26:08,625 --> 00:26:09,147


Graham McTavish: they just were.



697


00:26:10,750 --> 00:26:11,231


Marc Preston: I think so.



698


00:26:11,371 --> 00:26:13,636


Marc Preston: You know the times pretty much called upon



699


00:26:13,656 --> 00:26:14,238


Marc Preston: them to be.



700


00:26:14,545 --> 00:26:16,652


Marc Preston: You know to, to, to meet the moment.



701


00:26:16,753 --> 00:26:18,499


Marc Preston: You know Well, and his father.



702


00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,527


Graham McTavish: His father had fought in the First World



703


00:26:20,567 --> 00:26:20,828


Graham McTavish: War.



704


00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:24,400


Graham McTavish: Family members had died in the First World



705


00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:26,326


Graham McTavish: War, both with my mother's family and my



706


00:26:26,367 --> 00:26:27,029


Graham McTavish: father's family.



707


00:26:27,089 --> 00:26:28,735


Graham McTavish: So then this was life.



708


00:26:28,815 --> 00:26:30,220


Graham McTavish: This was what life was like.



709


00:26:30,902 --> 00:26:32,908


Graham McTavish: You know, it was a very real part of your



710


00:26:32,948 --> 00:26:37,818


Graham McTavish: existence that, on the whole, we have been



711


00:26:37,858 --> 00:26:40,463


Graham McTavish: spared, comparatively.



712


00:26:40,483 --> 00:26:42,929


Graham McTavish: I mean people like yourself, me, you know,



713


00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:43,751


Graham McTavish: i don't do.



714


00:26:44,292 --> 00:26:45,515


Graham McTavish: I don't know if you've ever served in the



715


00:26:45,535 --> 00:26:49,055


Graham McTavish: military, but it's not something that that



716


00:26:49,416 --> 00:26:51,584


Graham McTavish: was ever required in my life, fortunately.



717


00:26:52,387 --> 00:26:54,673


Marc Preston: No, no, never, never did admire the people



718


00:26:55,255 --> 00:26:56,919


Marc Preston: who do greatly.



719


00:26:57,602 --> 00:26:58,987


Marc Preston: Now, where'd you go to university to study



720


00:26:59,087 --> 00:26:59,368


Marc Preston: acting?



721


00:26:59,621 --> 00:26:59,701


Marc Preston: I?



722


00:26:59,841 --> 00:27:02,266


Graham McTavish: went to London University, queen Mary



723


00:27:02,307 --> 00:27:05,313


Graham McTavish: College, and I was very lucky.



724


00:27:07,001 --> 00:27:10,290


Graham McTavish: You know, i can look at certain points in



725


00:27:10,330 --> 00:27:13,218


Graham McTavish: my life where I've been lucky in the



726


00:27:13,278 --> 00:27:15,103


Graham McTavish: circumstances I've found myself in, and



727


00:27:15,684 --> 00:27:17,749


Graham McTavish: it's just so happened that where I went to



728


00:27:17,809 --> 00:27:22,144


Graham McTavish: college at London University, the professor



729


00:27:22,184 --> 00:27:23,692


Graham McTavish: of English I read English literature.



730


00:27:24,235 --> 00:27:26,845


Graham McTavish: The professor of English was very, very,



731


00:27:26,965 --> 00:27:30,716


Graham McTavish: very passionate about making sure that



732


00:27:30,776 --> 00:27:32,260


Graham McTavish: everybody involved themselves in putting on



733


00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:32,641


Graham McTavish: plays.



734


00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:35,366


Graham McTavish: So whether you didn't have to act in them,



735


00:27:36,087 --> 00:27:39,233


Graham McTavish: but acting them, work backstage, make



736


00:27:39,253 --> 00:27:41,226


Graham McTavish: costumes, but especially Shakespeare,



737


00:27:41,467 --> 00:27:43,234


Graham McTavish: especially Jackie B and Elizabethan drama,



738


00:27:43,897 --> 00:27:45,382


Graham McTavish: you had to put them on stage because that's



739


00:27:45,402 --> 00:27:48,009


Graham McTavish: what they were written for, and so I was



740


00:27:48,049 --> 00:27:51,225


Graham McTavish: lucky enough to be able to play many roles



741


00:27:51,887 --> 00:27:53,493


Graham McTavish: that I actually wouldn't have been able to



742


00:27:53,533 --> 00:27:54,657


Graham McTavish: play if I'd come to drama school,



743


00:27:54,921 --> 00:27:57,567


Graham McTavish: ironically enough, and so I got a lot of



744


00:27:57,908 --> 00:27:59,753


Graham McTavish: experience at university.



745


00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:00,362


Marc Preston: Oh, that's good.



746


00:28:00,382 --> 00:28:01,947


Marc Preston: That's a very interesting point where this



747


00:28:01,987 --> 00:28:04,164


Marc Preston: was actually your chosen thing initially,



748


00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:06,814


Marc Preston: that that would be you'd be competing



749


00:28:06,854 --> 00:28:08,340


Marc Preston: against others to maybe you get certain



750


00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,681


Marc Preston: things.



751


00:28:08,721 --> 00:28:09,323


Marc Preston: But here you can.



752


00:28:10,185 --> 00:28:11,529


Marc Preston: you're kind of put it like you mentioned



753


00:28:11,569 --> 00:28:13,783


Marc Preston: you wanted to be a writer, so you're kind



754


00:28:13,803 --> 00:28:15,916


Marc Preston: of in the ecosystem, seeing all angles of



755


00:28:15,956 --> 00:28:16,580


Marc Preston: the creative process.



756


00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,684


Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i mean I'd wanted.



757


00:28:19,185 --> 00:28:23,292


Graham McTavish: I developed an interest in acting after as



758


00:28:23,372 --> 00:28:25,863


Graham McTavish: I was leaving school And when I left school



759


00:28:25,923 --> 00:28:28,509


Graham McTavish: I took a year off And during that year the



760


00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:31,667


Graham McTavish: local amateur dramatics company they came



761


00:28:31,687 --> 00:28:33,775


Graham McTavish: around and leaf littered all the houses in



762


00:28:33,795 --> 00:28:35,421


Graham McTavish: the area in the days when people used to



763


00:28:35,461 --> 00:28:39,193


Graham McTavish: kind of like hand print leaflets And they



764


00:28:39,233 --> 00:28:40,999


Graham McTavish: start one through my letterbox or our



765


00:28:41,019 --> 00:28:42,811


Graham McTavish: letterbox And it was asking for young



766


00:28:42,968 --> 00:28:45,477


Graham McTavish: actors to join the local church hall



767


00:28:45,635 --> 00:28:45,955


Graham McTavish: company.



768


00:28:46,113 --> 00:28:50,990


Graham McTavish: And I showed it to my mother And I said Do



769


00:28:51,031 --> 00:28:51,392


Graham McTavish: you do?



770


00:28:51,412 --> 00:28:52,315


Graham McTavish: you think she'd do this.



771


00:28:53,217 --> 00:28:54,100


Graham McTavish: And I always, i've never forgotten her



772


00:28:54,882 --> 00:28:55,183


Graham McTavish: answer.



773


00:28:55,905 --> 00:28:57,731


Graham McTavish: She just looked to me and she said, Yeah, i



774


00:28:57,771 --> 00:29:00,459


Graham McTavish: think you should, and, and that was that.



775


00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,089


Graham McTavish: And I thought, okay, okay, and like lots of



776


00:29:04,129 --> 00:29:07,158


Graham McTavish: decisions in your life, it's, they seem



777


00:29:07,178 --> 00:29:09,927


Graham McTavish: have no consequence at the time, they



778


00:29:09,947 --> 00:29:10,810


Graham McTavish: really do.



779


00:29:10,910 --> 00:29:11,452


Marc Preston: Isn't that funny.



780


00:29:11,512 --> 00:29:13,399


Marc Preston: It's usually not something that it's a big



781


00:29:13,439 --> 00:29:13,660


Marc Preston: decision.



782


00:29:14,623 --> 00:29:16,349


Marc Preston: Yeah, You know, and also the ones that you



783


00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:16,810


Marc Preston: were.



784


00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:19,439


Marc Preston: You genuinely follow your intuition.



785


00:29:19,459 --> 00:29:22,432


Marc Preston: Like a Sanford Meisner said act before you



786


00:29:22,472 --> 00:29:22,693


Marc Preston: think.



787


00:29:22,733 --> 00:29:23,999


Marc Preston: Your instincts are more honest than your



788


00:29:24,019 --> 00:29:26,050


Marc Preston: thoughts, And those rare moments we like



789


00:29:26,251 --> 00:29:27,437


Marc Preston: this feels right And then you're so proud



790


00:29:27,457 --> 00:29:27,759


Marc Preston: of yourself.



791


00:29:27,779 --> 00:29:28,020


Marc Preston: It works out.



792


00:29:29,284 --> 00:29:32,834


Marc Preston: You know not, not not always, but no, no,



793


00:29:32,934 --> 00:29:33,897


Marc Preston: indeed not, no.



794


00:29:34,077 --> 00:29:35,502


Graham McTavish: But I mean, that's what primed me for me,



795


00:29:35,582 --> 00:29:37,831


Graham McTavish: for being so interested in it.



796


00:29:37,911 --> 00:29:39,658


Graham McTavish: I did a year of amateur theater, basically



797


00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:41,245


Graham McTavish: before I went to university, and then I



798


00:29:41,420 --> 00:29:44,178


Graham McTavish: just did theater all the time, all the time



799


00:29:44,352 --> 00:29:45,276


Graham McTavish: when I was there.



800


00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:45,947


Graham McTavish: So when?



801


00:29:46,809 --> 00:29:47,711


Marc Preston: you left university.



802


00:29:47,771 --> 00:29:50,178


Marc Preston: What happened from that point forward?



803


00:29:50,258 --> 00:29:52,042


Announcer: Were you, were you a quote unquote working



804


00:29:52,143 --> 00:29:54,669


Announcer: actor Or were you trying to find yourself.



805


00:29:55,411 --> 00:29:56,013


Graham McTavish: Well, it was funny.



806


00:29:56,554 --> 00:29:59,965


Graham McTavish: When I left, the idea was that I was going



807


00:29:59,985 --> 00:30:01,553


Graham McTavish: to go to drama school for a year after it



808


00:30:01,573 --> 00:30:02,316


Graham McTavish: was postgraduate.



809


00:30:02,336 --> 00:30:04,947


Graham McTavish: That was the plan, and so I auditioned for



810


00:30:04,967 --> 00:30:06,954


Graham McTavish: a number of drama schools Bristol, old Vic



811


00:30:07,074 --> 00:30:09,722


Graham McTavish: and Rada and Central and all the usual ones



812


00:30:10,364 --> 00:30:13,010


Graham McTavish: And I got into five schools.



813


00:30:14,473 --> 00:30:17,499


Graham McTavish: And then I was suddenly confronted with



814


00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:20,067


Graham McTavish: this terrible truth that I was going to



815


00:30:20,087 --> 00:30:23,498


Graham McTavish: have to pay Because I, in those days, you



816


00:30:23,538 --> 00:30:25,545


Graham McTavish: had free university education in the United



817


00:30:25,585 --> 00:30:27,772


Graham McTavish: Kingdom And so I just had three years of



818


00:30:28,374 --> 00:30:31,526


Graham McTavish: free education, and the idea of paying was



819


00:30:31,566 --> 00:30:32,952


Graham McTavish: just completely anathema to me.



820


00:30:33,012 --> 00:30:34,598


Marc Preston: So I just was considered sort of a master's



821


00:30:34,618 --> 00:30:38,169


Marc Preston: program, if you will.



822


00:30:38,229 --> 00:30:40,716


Graham McTavish: I mean I'd used up my three years, so there



823


00:30:40,756 --> 00:30:41,959


Graham McTavish: was no way I was going to pay.



824


00:30:41,979 --> 00:30:44,509


Graham McTavish: So I just said, no, no, no, i won't do that,



825


00:30:44,569 --> 00:30:45,231


Graham McTavish: i'll just.



826


00:30:45,753 --> 00:30:46,958


Graham McTavish: I'll just do a one man show.



827


00:30:46,978 --> 00:30:49,787


Graham McTavish: So I did Samuel Beckett's Craps, last Tape,



828


00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:52,135


Graham McTavish: and my girlfriend and I took it around to



829


00:30:52,216 --> 00:30:55,005


Graham McTavish: pubs all over London to get my equity card.



830


00:30:55,628 --> 00:30:57,395


Graham McTavish: And that's what I did.



831


00:30:57,415 --> 00:30:58,479


Marc Preston: I got my equity card And then you can get



832


00:30:58,499 --> 00:31:01,267


Marc Preston: your equity card by doing performances of



833


00:31:01,287 --> 00:31:02,209


Marc Preston: pubs Really.



834


00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:05,318


Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because because it



835


00:31:05,338 --> 00:31:09,930


Graham McTavish: was a one man show, it was a loophole in



836


00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:12,698


Graham McTavish: equity that it counted as a variety act And



837


00:31:12,738 --> 00:31:15,226


Graham McTavish: as a variety act you could pretty much



838


00:31:15,266 --> 00:31:16,049


Graham McTavish: perform it anywhere.



839


00:31:16,712 --> 00:31:17,977


Graham McTavish: And so I did it And I just had to get a, i



840


00:31:17,997 --> 00:31:21,086


Graham McTavish: just had to be paid And I had to prove that



841


00:31:21,106 --> 00:31:21,688


Graham McTavish: I'd been paid.



842


00:31:22,069 --> 00:31:24,717


Graham McTavish: And then I was a professional actor And,



843


00:31:24,737 --> 00:31:29,455


Graham McTavish: like a lot of things, certainly in my case,



844


00:31:29,475 --> 00:31:30,359


Graham McTavish: it has been a great advantage to not know



845


00:31:30,379 --> 00:31:34,131


Graham McTavish: what I'm doing, just to be completely



846


00:31:34,231 --> 00:31:34,592


Graham McTavish: ignorant.



847


00:31:34,612 --> 00:31:36,118


Graham McTavish: And and just isn't it funny when you reach



848


00:31:36,138 --> 00:31:38,266


Graham McTavish: this age and you look back going.



849


00:31:38,286 --> 00:31:40,414


Marc Preston: If I had cognition of how many things could



850


00:31:40,495 --> 00:31:41,539


Marc Preston: go wrong or different snicker, I never



851


00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:42,342


Marc Preston: would have done it.



852


00:31:42,402 --> 00:31:42,944


Marc Preston: I would never have.



853


00:31:43,044 --> 00:31:45,133


Graham McTavish: I'd never have moved to America, i would



854


00:31:45,253 --> 00:31:46,417


Graham McTavish: never have gone into acting.



855


00:31:46,919 --> 00:31:49,750


Graham McTavish: I would never, i mean.



856


00:31:49,770 --> 00:31:50,794


Graham McTavish: So I was just contacting theaters.



857


00:31:50,874 --> 00:31:52,319


Graham McTavish: I was just ringing them up in the days



858


00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,087


Graham McTavish: where they weren't casting directors then



859


00:31:54,207 --> 00:31:55,152


Graham McTavish: in theater.



860


00:31:55,172 --> 00:31:56,880


Graham McTavish: So you just ring up and you talk to the



861


00:31:58,885 --> 00:32:02,393


Graham McTavish: director And you just say, oh hello, i'm



862


00:32:02,433 --> 00:32:04,579


Graham McTavish: Graham, i'm, i'm, i want, i'm an actor.



863


00:32:04,679 --> 00:32:07,953


Graham McTavish: Are you casting anything at the moment that



864


00:32:07,973 --> 00:32:08,495


Graham McTavish: I could be right for?



865


00:32:08,515 --> 00:32:09,439


Graham McTavish: And they say, oh, yeah, well, send in your



866


00:32:09,459 --> 00:32:11,950


Graham McTavish: stuff, what do you think you could be good



867


00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:12,090


Graham McTavish: for?



868


00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:13,155


Graham McTavish: And you send them in, and some of them



869


00:32:13,175 --> 00:32:17,390


Graham McTavish: would ring you up and go, yes, we'd like



870


00:32:17,410 --> 00:32:18,553


Graham McTavish: you to come in, and some of them you'd



871


00:32:18,593 --> 00:32:19,316


Graham McTavish: never hear from again.



872


00:32:19,396 --> 00:32:24,188


Graham McTavish: But I had no, i had no inhibitions at all.



873


00:32:24,308 --> 00:32:28,296


Graham McTavish: I was just like, yeah, like ridiculously



874


00:32:28,597 --> 00:32:30,561


Graham McTavish: confident, with no basis for that



875


00:32:30,601 --> 00:32:31,062


Graham McTavish: confidence.



876


00:32:32,044 --> 00:32:34,389


Marc Preston: So well, that's being your 20s, isn't it?



877


00:32:34,489 --> 00:32:36,493


Marc Preston: You know the name of the game.



878


00:32:36,513 --> 00:32:37,922


Marc Preston: I saw a quote the other day.



879


00:32:37,963 --> 00:32:40,529


Marc Preston: It said if you are at this age and you're



880


00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:42,424


Marc Preston: looking back on your younger self and you



881


00:32:42,444 --> 00:32:44,011


Marc Preston: don't go, god, i was such a knucklehead.



882


00:32:44,734 --> 00:32:45,578


Marc Preston: You're still a knucklehead.



883


00:32:45,859 --> 00:32:47,344


Marc Preston: You know it because.



884


00:32:47,444 --> 00:32:48,528


Marc Preston: But that's part of the process.



885


00:32:48,548 --> 00:32:51,237


Marc Preston: You got to go through it to learn, to



886


00:32:51,318 --> 00:32:52,000


Marc Preston: discover yourself.



887


00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:57,092


Graham McTavish: I think Yes yes, yes, and you know we, we



888


00:32:57,133 --> 00:32:59,659


Graham McTavish: ended I ended up, you know, doing doing



889


00:32:59,719 --> 00:33:02,707


Graham McTavish: some acting roles And but I wanted more



890


00:33:02,927 --> 00:33:03,729


Graham McTavish: exposure.



891


00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:07,198


Graham McTavish: So myself and a friend, we'd done Edward



892


00:33:07,238 --> 00:33:09,684


Graham McTavish: Albee's The Zoo Story together, the



893


00:33:09,724 --> 00:33:11,548


Graham McTavish: Edinburgh Festival, and we were looking for



894


00:33:11,588 --> 00:33:12,510


Graham McTavish: another two man show.



895


00:33:12,571 --> 00:33:15,206


Graham McTavish: So we wrote a play about Vincent van Gogh



896


00:33:16,009 --> 00:33:17,494


Graham McTavish: based on the letters between the two of



897


00:33:17,514 --> 00:33:19,962


Graham McTavish: them, and we persuaded the National Gallery



898


00:33:19,982 --> 00:33:20,925


Graham McTavish: in London to put it on.



899


00:33:21,988 --> 00:33:25,439


Graham McTavish: And then that led to a very long story we



900


00:33:25,479 --> 00:33:27,927


Graham McTavish: haven't got time for, but that led to a



901


00:33:27,987 --> 00:33:30,597


Graham McTavish: tour of America, three tours of America and



902


00:33:30,617 --> 00:33:31,881


Graham McTavish: abroad, and blah, blah, blah, blah and all



903


00:33:31,901 --> 00:33:32,282


Graham McTavish: the rest of it.



904


00:33:32,623 --> 00:33:35,993


Graham McTavish: But again, you know, if I started that



905


00:33:36,034 --> 00:33:41,246


Graham McTavish: process with the goal of touring America, i



906


00:33:41,266 --> 00:33:43,470


Graham McTavish: would have been paralyzed, but all I wanted



907


00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:45,934


Graham McTavish: to do was get people to be able to see me



908


00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:46,301


Graham McTavish: act.



909


00:33:47,303 --> 00:33:49,147


Graham McTavish: So we, you know, rather than rely on



910


00:33:49,187 --> 00:33:51,231


Graham McTavish: somebody else to give me the job, i wrote



911


00:33:51,291 --> 00:33:54,685


Graham McTavish: the job for myself And please come and see



912


00:33:54,725 --> 00:33:54,825


Graham McTavish: me.



913


00:33:55,506 --> 00:33:57,290


Graham McTavish: So it's a kind of arrogance mixed with



914


00:33:57,370 --> 00:33:57,871


Graham McTavish: naivety.



915


00:33:58,372 --> 00:33:59,966


Marc Preston: Your name, you know you talked about that



916


00:34:00,006 --> 00:34:00,691


Marc Preston: thing when you're younger.



917


00:34:00,711 --> 00:34:02,542


Marc Preston: If you don't know what you're stepping into



918


00:34:02,562 --> 00:34:02,783


Marc Preston: that's.



919


00:34:02,803 --> 00:34:05,013


Marc Preston: That's a good thing, because you can more



920


00:34:05,133 --> 00:34:06,640


Marc Preston: add, i think more effectively follow your



921


00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:08,984


Marc Preston: goals, dreams, aspirations without any



922


00:34:09,265 --> 00:34:10,788


Marc Preston: hindrances of common sense.



923


00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:15,404


Marc Preston: Yes yes, not having common sense for sure.



924


00:34:15,525 --> 00:34:16,851


Marc Preston: Now, where did you land when you got to



925


00:34:16,891 --> 00:34:17,273


Marc Preston: America?



926


00:34:17,313 --> 00:34:17,836


Marc Preston: Where was it?



927


00:34:17,876 --> 00:34:19,341


Marc Preston: Where did you post up first, to kind of



928


00:34:19,361 --> 00:34:19,622


Marc Preston: start?



929


00:34:20,103 --> 00:34:21,506


Graham McTavish: Birmingham, alabama.



930


00:34:21,806 --> 00:34:22,929


Marc Preston: Birmingham, Alabama.



931


00:34:23,229 --> 00:34:23,690


Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah.



932


00:34:23,891 --> 00:34:27,944


Graham McTavish: Well, we organized a tour, so we had done,



933


00:34:29,127 --> 00:34:31,654


Graham McTavish: we had managed to get all of these art



934


00:34:31,714 --> 00:34:34,242


Graham McTavish: institutions in America because we done it



935


00:34:34,302 --> 00:34:36,651


Graham McTavish: at the National Gallery in London to book



936


00:34:36,732 --> 00:34:36,812


Graham McTavish: us.



937


00:34:37,013 --> 00:34:38,740


Graham McTavish: So we did the Metropolitan Museum of Art in



938


00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,306


Graham McTavish: New York, we did the Art Institute of



939


00:34:40,346 --> 00:34:43,577


Graham McTavish: Chicago, LA County Museum, chicago.



940


00:34:43,597 --> 00:34:45,062


Graham McTavish: You know, we're Cleveland, we did it



941


00:34:45,162 --> 00:34:45,524


Graham McTavish: everywhere.



942


00:34:45,945 --> 00:34:47,851


Graham McTavish: But the first place was Birmingham, alabama,



943


00:34:48,614 --> 00:34:50,199


Graham McTavish: and it was fantastic.



944


00:34:50,219 --> 00:34:52,443


Graham McTavish: I mean that was 1987.



945


00:34:53,484 --> 00:34:55,427


Graham McTavish: And it was.



946


00:34:56,468 --> 00:34:57,990


Graham McTavish: I mean we would, i was 26.



947


00:34:59,813 --> 00:35:02,216


Graham McTavish: We just we arrived, we'd made all the props,



948


00:35:02,420 --> 00:35:04,766


Graham McTavish: my friend had painted reproductions of Van



949


00:35:04,787 --> 00:35:06,290


Graham McTavish: Gogh's work because he was, he was a great



950


00:35:06,431 --> 00:35:08,944


Graham McTavish: artist, my friend is a great artist.



951


00:35:09,686 --> 00:35:14,176


Graham McTavish: And we just we started there And we were



952


00:35:14,196 --> 00:35:15,218


Graham McTavish: going to New York next.



953


00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,334


Graham McTavish: And I remember When we told the people in



954


00:35:18,635 --> 00:35:20,140


Graham McTavish: Alabama that we were going to New York,



955


00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:22,318


Graham McTavish: they, they, what they said oh, you want to



956


00:35:22,338 --> 00:35:25,233


Graham McTavish: be careful, you want to be careful, yankees



957


00:35:25,313 --> 00:35:25,614


Graham McTavish: up there.



958


00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:27,855


Marc Preston: Birmingham has a little more of an artsy



959


00:35:27,895 --> 00:35:30,051


Marc Preston: scene, more of a restaurant, you know like



960


00:35:30,451 --> 00:35:30,552


Marc Preston: it.



961


00:35:30,592 --> 00:35:33,037


Marc Preston: You know artsy people, from a way I



962


00:35:33,077 --> 00:35:35,321


Marc Preston: understand, gravitate to that, to that town.



963


00:35:35,762 --> 00:35:37,112


Graham McTavish: Yeah, It was a.



964


00:35:37,453 --> 00:35:38,578


Graham McTavish: it was a fun experience.



965


00:35:39,250 --> 00:35:39,350


Marc Preston: Now.



966


00:35:39,792 --> 00:35:42,379


Marc Preston: So you ended up in New York, i'm assuming.



967


00:35:42,499 --> 00:35:43,971


Marc Preston: Based on the work you were doing, did you



968


00:35:44,031 --> 00:35:45,716


Marc Preston: also head to LA and live there?



969


00:35:45,737 --> 00:35:49,617


Marc Preston: for a live in LA, no no, no, we didn't.



970


00:35:49,737 --> 00:35:51,802


Graham McTavish: We didn't really live in America.



971


00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:56,458


Graham McTavish: We toured America, so that was, that was



972


00:35:56,498 --> 00:35:56,960


Graham McTavish: what we did.



973


00:35:57,090 --> 00:35:59,596


Graham McTavish: So we would go out there, in because



974


00:35:59,656 --> 00:36:01,581


Graham McTavish: Britain was so miserable in January,



975


00:36:01,641 --> 00:36:02,423


Graham McTavish: february, march.



976


00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:05,397


Graham McTavish: We would just construct tours to take us



977


00:36:05,457 --> 00:36:07,342


Graham McTavish: out of the country every January, february,



978


00:36:07,382 --> 00:36:07,602


Graham McTavish: march.



979


00:36:07,970 --> 00:36:09,295


Graham McTavish: So we went to America.



980


00:36:09,797 --> 00:36:10,619


Graham McTavish: We went there three times.



981


00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:12,116


Graham McTavish: We went to Australia in January, february,



982


00:36:12,176 --> 00:36:12,357


Graham McTavish: march.



983


00:36:12,731 --> 00:36:13,875


Graham McTavish: So we were always somewhere warm.



984


00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:17,052


Graham McTavish: That was, that was the goal It was.



985


00:36:17,353 --> 00:36:18,836


Marc Preston: That's the one thing that would keep me



986


00:36:18,917 --> 00:36:19,378


Marc Preston: from wanting it.



987


00:36:19,538 --> 00:36:21,632


Marc Preston: Just, it always seems gray and cold and



988


00:36:21,672 --> 00:36:23,277


Marc Preston: rainy, but it's such beautiful, both



989


00:36:23,457 --> 00:36:25,252


Marc Preston: Scotland and Ireland, And it just.



990


00:36:26,075 --> 00:36:27,621


Marc Preston: You look at that part of the world, it's



991


00:36:27,641 --> 00:36:29,990


Marc Preston: just green and rolling hills.



992


00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:31,837


Marc Preston: And it's just absolutely stunningly



993


00:36:31,897 --> 00:36:32,278


Marc Preston: beautiful.



994


00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:34,374


Marc Preston: And, of course, you know, seeing y'all



995


00:36:34,394 --> 00:36:36,620


Marc Preston: doing your road trip in that van, which is,



996


00:36:37,141 --> 00:36:38,715


Marc Preston: you know, you and Sam, of course kind of



997


00:36:38,756 --> 00:36:38,916


Marc Preston: open.



998


00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:40,336


Marc Preston: I want to watch some of the rest of it



999


00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:41,032


Marc Preston: Because I want to.



Speaker:

00:36:41,353 --> 00:36:43,017


Marc Preston: I want to dial in a little bit more of my



Speaker:

00:36:43,097 --> 00:36:45,754


Marc Preston: Scottish lineage, understand a little bit



Speaker:

00:36:45,814 --> 00:36:46,055


Marc Preston: more.



Speaker:

00:36:46,336 --> 00:36:47,099


Graham McTavish: You'll understand.



Speaker:

00:36:47,331 --> 00:36:47,572


Marc Preston: Yes.



Speaker:

00:36:47,974 --> 00:36:50,535


Graham McTavish: Yes, the the feuding nature of the Scots.



Speaker:

00:36:51,277 --> 00:36:53,702


Graham McTavish: You know, the days never complete unless



Speaker:

00:36:53,743 --> 00:36:55,756


Graham McTavish: they're they're feuding with somebody else.



Speaker:

00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:59,397


Graham McTavish: It's, it's a reMarcable talent that they



Speaker:

00:36:59,457 --> 00:37:01,482


Graham McTavish: have, which they exported to America, of



Speaker:

00:37:01,542 --> 00:37:05,540


Graham McTavish: course, with Hatfields and McCoys, and you



Speaker:

00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,648


Graham McTavish: know they, they, yeah, they're Scottish.



Speaker:

00:37:08,129 --> 00:37:09,532


Graham McTavish: You know they just went there and



Speaker:

00:37:11,016 --> 00:37:12,839


Graham McTavish: replicated what they'd been doing in



Speaker:

00:37:12,899 --> 00:37:14,302


Graham McTavish: Scotland for hundreds of years.



Speaker:

00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:17,977


Marc Preston: They're a very tenacious, tenacious clan,



Speaker:

00:37:18,538 --> 00:37:19,661


Marc Preston: or clans rather.



Speaker:

00:37:19,822 --> 00:37:21,556


Marc Preston: Yes, but one of the things I'm curious



Speaker:

00:37:21,576 --> 00:37:23,845


Marc Preston: about I totally forgot you did this but



Speaker:

00:37:24,608 --> 00:37:27,017


Marc Preston: back in the early 2000s love watching 24.



Speaker:

00:37:27,451 --> 00:37:29,662


Marc Preston: And you had your kind of your swing on 24,



Speaker:

00:37:29,682 --> 00:37:31,190


Marc Preston: you're a bad Russian dude, yeah.



Speaker:

00:37:31,453 --> 00:37:32,790


Marc Preston: So what was that experience like?



Speaker:

00:37:32,911 --> 00:37:34,620


Marc Preston: Any you know, you're the third or fourth



Speaker:

00:37:35,022 --> 00:37:36,630


Marc Preston: gentleman I've spoken with who was on 24.



Speaker:

00:37:36,752 --> 00:37:36,955


Announcer: What was?



Speaker:

00:37:36,975 --> 00:37:37,890


Marc Preston: that experience like.



Speaker:

00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:40,162


Marc Preston: That seemed like a fast paced kind of



Speaker:

00:37:40,223 --> 00:37:40,786


Marc Preston: experience.



Speaker:

00:37:41,128 --> 00:37:43,878


Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i mean, i love I was a massive



Speaker:

00:37:43,938 --> 00:37:46,667


Graham McTavish: fan of 24, a massive fan which I kept



Speaker:

00:37:46,707 --> 00:37:49,315


Graham McTavish: embarrassing myself with on set constantly



Speaker:

00:37:49,355 --> 00:37:51,260


Graham McTavish: telling the users how much of a fan I was



Speaker:

00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:51,701


Graham McTavish: at the show.



Speaker:

00:37:52,191 --> 00:37:53,160


Graham McTavish: It got to the point where they were going



Speaker:

00:37:53,181 --> 00:37:54,170


Graham McTavish: yes, yes, yes, yes.



Speaker:

00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:55,797


Graham McTavish: Ok, graham, we, we, we get it.



Speaker:

00:37:56,350 --> 00:37:58,879


Graham McTavish: We just need you to become Mikhail



Speaker:

00:37:58,999 --> 00:38:01,868


Graham McTavish: Novakovich now and be the Russian



Speaker:

00:38:01,929 --> 00:38:02,330


Graham McTavish: ambassador.



Speaker:

00:38:02,491 --> 00:38:04,158


Graham McTavish: Don't, don't, don't talk about your fandom,



Speaker:

00:38:05,571 --> 00:38:07,713


Graham McTavish: but it was, it was great, i mean, it's it,



Speaker:

00:38:07,833 --> 00:38:08,334


Graham McTavish: it.



Speaker:

00:38:09,337 --> 00:38:13,227


Graham McTavish: I think people forget how revolutionary 24



Speaker:

00:38:13,308 --> 00:38:14,673


Graham McTavish: was, Yeah That.



Speaker:

00:38:14,915 --> 00:38:17,309


Marc Preston: I think that's before streaming, of course.



Speaker:

00:38:17,330 --> 00:38:17,410


Graham McTavish: Yeah.



Speaker:

00:38:17,893 --> 00:38:20,789


Marc Preston: Before before, as many options have been 24.



Speaker:

00:38:21,314 --> 00:38:23,190


Marc Preston: That was appointment TV right there.



Speaker:

00:38:25,077 --> 00:38:26,020


Graham McTavish: Oh yeah.



Speaker:

00:38:26,673 --> 00:38:27,257


Marc Preston: I mean I was, i don't.



Speaker:

00:38:27,358 --> 00:38:28,910


Marc Preston: I mean what shows are out there now?



Speaker:

00:38:29,311 --> 00:38:31,179


Marc Preston: It may have course like Game of Thrones and



Speaker:

00:38:32,082 --> 00:38:34,652


Marc Preston: you know, things like that, which I still I



Speaker:

00:38:34,672 --> 00:38:35,274


Marc Preston: have to admit.



Speaker:

00:38:35,475 --> 00:38:36,819


Marc Preston: I was speaking with somebody the other day.



Speaker:

00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:38,574


Marc Preston: I said I you know, there's just some,



Speaker:

00:38:38,594 --> 00:38:40,158


Marc Preston: there's so much stuff out there now.



Speaker:

00:38:40,259 --> 00:38:41,602


Marc Preston: Yes, there are things I'll miss.



Speaker:

00:38:41,870 --> 00:38:43,214


Marc Preston: And so and so.



Speaker:

00:38:43,394 --> 00:38:45,600


Marc Preston: No, yeah, i'm, I'm planning on, i'm waiting,



Speaker:

00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:47,558


Marc Preston: because I got two children in college.



Speaker:

00:38:47,618 --> 00:38:49,311


Marc Preston: Now one's about to do their gap year, so



Speaker:

00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:51,318


Marc Preston: finally the TV gets to be 100 percent mine



Speaker:

00:38:51,338 --> 00:38:51,759


Marc Preston: to watch.



Speaker:

00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:54,058


Graham McTavish: You know there's so much.



Speaker:

00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:56,756


Graham McTavish: So you know, in the time that you're



Speaker:

00:38:56,776 --> 00:38:59,923


Graham McTavish: waiting to watch you know eight seasons of



Speaker:

00:39:00,731 --> 00:39:02,815


Graham McTavish: Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon,



Speaker:

00:39:03,817 --> 00:39:07,183


Graham McTavish: you will you'll be having other shows that



Speaker:

00:39:07,203 --> 00:39:07,904


Graham McTavish: you'll want to watch.



Speaker:

00:39:08,224 --> 00:39:09,473


Graham McTavish: Yeah, you know, i've never seen the wire.



Speaker:

00:39:10,095 --> 00:39:11,219


Graham McTavish: You know everyone's always going.



Speaker:

00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,914


Marc Preston: Neither have I And again I go back to



Speaker:

00:39:12,954 --> 00:39:14,058


Marc Preston: Anthony Bourdain mentioned that.



Speaker:

00:39:14,271 --> 00:39:15,294


Marc Preston: I think he said that was one of his



Speaker:

00:39:15,335 --> 00:39:16,238


Marc Preston: favorite shows ever.



Speaker:

00:39:17,332 --> 00:39:18,577


Marc Preston: The same production team did.



Speaker:

00:39:18,851 --> 00:39:19,936


Marc Preston: I was down in New Orleans.



Speaker:

00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:22,662


Marc Preston: They were shooting Treme Treme.



Speaker:

00:39:22,682 --> 00:39:23,145


Marc Preston: Can you say?



Speaker:

00:39:23,165 --> 00:39:23,305


Announcer: that.



Speaker:

00:39:23,325 --> 00:39:25,834


Marc Preston: They've never seen that either, and in fact



Speaker:

00:39:25,874 --> 00:39:26,275


Marc Preston: I saw your.



Speaker:

00:39:26,295 --> 00:39:28,540


Marc Preston: I auditioned for Preacher a few times.



Speaker:

00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,034


Marc Preston: I saw you were in that And I didn't get



Speaker:

00:39:31,155 --> 00:39:32,679


Marc Preston: more than trying to remember what did you



Speaker:

00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,461


Marc Preston: do in Preacher.



Speaker:

00:39:33,550 --> 00:39:34,374


Marc Preston: I'm trying to remember.



Speaker:

00:39:34,671 --> 00:39:35,936


Marc Preston: I was the saint of killers.



Speaker:

00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:38,096


Marc Preston: I've only gotten in like two or three



Speaker:

00:39:38,137 --> 00:39:39,837


Marc Preston: episodes into that show, so I need to go



Speaker:

00:39:39,897 --> 00:39:40,483


Marc Preston: further in.



Speaker:

00:39:40,786 --> 00:39:42,373


Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, so the saint of killers.



Speaker:

00:39:43,034 --> 00:39:45,661


Graham McTavish: It was literally a dream for me to do that



Speaker:

00:39:45,721 --> 00:39:48,236


Graham McTavish: role, because I loved the graphic novels



Speaker:

00:39:48,737 --> 00:39:49,580


Graham McTavish: and I loved him.



Speaker:

00:39:51,010 --> 00:39:54,217


Graham McTavish: So he's yeah, i mean, look, you know,



Speaker:

00:39:54,237 --> 00:39:55,599


Graham McTavish: playing a character called the saint of



Speaker:

00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:55,980


Graham McTavish: killers.



Speaker:

00:39:57,002 --> 00:39:57,784


Graham McTavish: Yeah, it's going to be fun.



Speaker:

00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:59,657


Graham McTavish: So we're, we're, we're the ball.



Speaker:

00:40:00,371 --> 00:40:00,551


Marc Preston: I do.



Speaker:

00:40:00,652 --> 00:40:02,658


Marc Preston: I do have to ask, being a part of the



Speaker:

00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,806


Marc Preston: Hobbit and the Peter Jackson ecosystem,



Speaker:

00:40:05,387 --> 00:40:06,130


Marc Preston: what was that like?



Speaker:

00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:08,057


Marc Preston: What was it comparatively to the other



Speaker:

00:40:08,117 --> 00:40:08,859


Marc Preston: stuff you've done?



Speaker:

00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:10,835


Marc Preston: You know what, what, what, how has that



Speaker:

00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:14,003


Marc Preston: experience any different or unique and fine,



Speaker:

00:40:14,450 --> 00:40:18,619


Marc Preston: oh, well, certainly, up to that point, i'd



Speaker:

00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,564


Marc Preston: never experienced anything like it.



Speaker:

00:40:20,650 --> 00:40:24,099


Graham McTavish: I don't think any of us had just the sheer



Speaker:

00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,723


Graham McTavish: scale of it.



Speaker:

00:40:26,131 --> 00:40:28,639


Graham McTavish: It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a juggernaut,



Speaker:

00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,321


Graham McTavish: it's enormous.



Speaker:

00:40:30,711 --> 00:40:31,613


Graham McTavish: So, you know, we shot.



Speaker:

00:40:31,733 --> 00:40:33,197


Graham McTavish: I can't even remember how many hundreds of



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Graham McTavish: days that we shot on it over two and a half



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Graham McTavish: years.



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Graham McTavish: But you, you, you became a sort of family,



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Graham McTavish: especially the dwarves, because you were



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Graham McTavish: uniquely clad in all of this stuff, the



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Graham McTavish: prosthetics and the costumes which you know.



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Graham McTavish: My costume weighed nearly 70 pounds, so it



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Graham McTavish: was.



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Graham McTavish: It was like running around with a person on



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Graham McTavish: your back.



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Graham McTavish: So it was.



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Graham McTavish: It was a very intense experience, but but



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Graham McTavish: truly wonderful.



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Graham McTavish: I remember, you know, any time that you



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Graham McTavish: would be feel tired or fatigued or you just



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Graham McTavish: wanted to go home, i would remind myself



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Graham McTavish: how lucky I was to be there.



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Graham McTavish: And it was.



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Graham McTavish: It was an amazing experience, yeah.



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Marc Preston: I need to get to New Zealand and just I,



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Marc Preston: just it's one of the places it's such a



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Marc Preston: it's such a it's such a unique history too.



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Announcer: It's a beautiful place.



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Marc Preston: It's an incredible country.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, you should go, but of course you are.



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Marc Preston: you are my Sherpa of all things, scotland,



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Marc Preston: you know.



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Marc Preston: so I'm going to be, you know, because I'm



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Marc Preston: going to be watching the show, like



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Marc Preston: afterwards going it, you know, i learned a



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Marc Preston: new thing.



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Marc Preston: So the, the Men and Kilt, are y'all coming



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Marc Preston: out with a new season of that soon, or is



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Marc Preston: that?



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Graham McTavish: August the 11th is when it starts on stars.



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Graham McTavish: We begin there, and the book that deals



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Graham McTavish: with the experience of shooting that show



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Graham McTavish: in New Zealand, clanlands in New Zealand,



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Graham McTavish: is published on November the 7th.



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Marc Preston: So Okay, so the book is very good.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, that's, that's because I so want to



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Marc Preston: learn a little bit more.



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Marc Preston: Because, like I said, i went down that



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Marc Preston: rabbit hole and realized, oh, my family,



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Marc Preston: many, many, many, i think 16 great



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Marc Preston: grandfathers back was the one who, maybe a



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Marc Preston: little bit more, financed the Mayflower.



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Marc Preston: That's kind of a.



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Marc Preston: It probably goes further back than that I



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Marc Preston: buy a lot of track.



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Graham McTavish: but it was such an interesting to be able



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Graham McTavish: to draw a line between then and now and go,



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Graham McTavish: wow, that's, i know I know, i know It's a



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Graham McTavish: yeah, we've written a couple of three, but



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Graham McTavish: this is the third book, so we wrote one on



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Graham McTavish: the first season as well And then we did



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Graham McTavish: the now Menach.



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Graham McTavish: But they, you know, the first one covers



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Graham McTavish: Scotland and our experience in Scotland,



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Graham McTavish: and this one covers our experience in New



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Graham McTavish: Zealand and their history and their



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Graham McTavish: connection with Scotland.



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Marc Preston: Now are y'all.



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Marc Preston: Are you working on anything else right now,



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Marc Preston: or is that they have any new shows that are



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Marc Preston: going to be rolling out?



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Graham McTavish: Well, i've just been to the premiere of a



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Graham McTavish: nice independent movie that I did in



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Graham McTavish: Montana last year.



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Graham McTavish: that is due for release next year, i



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Graham McTavish: believe.



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Graham McTavish: Yes, that's when it's going to be.



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Graham McTavish: Well, that's another part of that.



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Marc Preston: That's actually a part of the US That,



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Marc Preston: depending where you are, might remind you a



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Marc Preston: little bit more of Scotland, just



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Marc Preston: graphically, you know.



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Graham McTavish: Yes, and a big Scottish connection there,



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Graham McTavish: actually, i found with the McDonald's,



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Graham McTavish: interestingly enough, but it's called



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Graham McTavish: Somewhere in Montana, so that's coming out.



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Graham McTavish: And then we start shooting on season four



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Graham McTavish: of The Witcher later in the year, So that's



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Graham McTavish: that's that's coming out.



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Graham McTavish: And I worked on Love, death and Robots for



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Graham McTavish: Netflix, which will be coming out I guess



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Graham McTavish: later this year, maybe early next year, i'm



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Graham McTavish: not sure.



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Marc Preston: And I'm doing an independent.



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Graham McTavish: It seems like you're you're.



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Marc Preston: you're working nonstop, though It sounds



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Marc Preston: like you're you're very.



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Marc Preston: Yeah well, it can be.



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Marc Preston: It can be rigorous, though, you know, from



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Marc Preston: one project to travel.



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Graham McTavish: The travel is the hard thing for me now



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Graham McTavish: It's.



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Graham McTavish: It's brutal.



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Graham McTavish: Having Kevin kids in New Zealand doesn't



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Graham McTavish: help.



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Marc Preston: But before we get going, i like to ask what



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Marc Preston: I call my seven questions, and it's a



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Marc Preston: question that Diane asked the whole time.



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Marc Preston: The first one is what your favorite comfort



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Marc Preston: food is, and that really dovetails into



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Marc Preston: something I'm curious about.



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Marc Preston: It could be the same thing or be something



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Marc Preston: different.



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Marc Preston: Growing up, if somebody say, oh yeah, you



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Marc Preston: had that all the time and, scott, i'm from



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Marc Preston: Texas and elsewhere they don't think of



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Marc Preston: having chicken fried steak in the morning



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Marc Preston: with eggs.



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Marc Preston: You know, i think it's something in Texas,



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Marc Preston: depending where you are.



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Marc Preston: Comfort food yeah, cheese, oh, cheese,



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Marc Preston: cheese.



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Marc Preston: I love cheese, partial to any particular



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Marc Preston: cheese.



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Graham McTavish: I'm pretty, you know I'm pretty Catholic in



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Graham McTavish: my tastes of cheese.



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Graham McTavish: I'll eat pretty much any cheese.



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Graham McTavish: I used to sit in front of the TV when I was



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Graham McTavish: a kid with just a block of cheese and just



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Graham McTavish: eat my way through it.



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Graham McTavish: So yes, it's a very strong connection to my



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Graham McTavish: childhood.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, i think I did an okay job with my



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Marc Preston: kids.



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Marc Preston: We'll go to Whole Foods and we'll go to the



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Marc Preston: cheese section, and they'll be totally okay



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Marc Preston: getting the funkiest, stinkiest, runniest



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Marc Preston: cheese.



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Marc Preston: They understand that the smellier it is,



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Marc Preston: the more interesting the taste will be, and



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Marc Preston: sometimes it shocks me the stuff they'll



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Marc Preston: eat.



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Marc Preston: But as I've gotten older, though, i'm like



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Marc Preston: keeping an eye on the cholesterol, so I'm



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Marc Preston: like I don't know.



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Marc Preston: It's like you know some things you got to



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Marc Preston: let just let go and do it Exactly, Exactly



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Marc Preston: Now, real quick, like if you were to say



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Marc Preston: Scotland, though, what would they mean



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Marc Preston: outside of Haggis or Benito's Haggis?



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Marc Preston: but what is something that is pretty



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Marc Preston: ubiquitous.



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Marc Preston: Everybody had it either as a dinner item,



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Marc Preston: something for breakfast Kippers Ah, okay,



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Marc Preston: Smoked kippers, right.



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Graham McTavish: Kippers yes, My father used to stink the



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Graham McTavish: kitchen out regularly with smoked kippers.



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Marc Preston: Well, that's a fantastic and that they are



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Marc Preston: kind of the same way in Holland.



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Marc Preston: I think they love their kippers there as



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Marc Preston: well.



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Marc Preston: All right Now if you were to sit down and



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Marc Preston: have next question.



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00:45:52,748 --> 00:45:54,597


Marc Preston: have a cup of coffee, you and three people



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Marc Preston: that now, living or not, who would be kind



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Marc Preston: of nice to spend a few hours with three



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Marc Preston: people you can think of to have



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Marc Preston: conversation for a bit?



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Marc Preston: Oh boy.



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Graham McTavish: Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, that's a big ask.



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Graham McTavish: Well, shakespeare, definitely That would be



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Graham McTavish: an interesting person to have over for



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Graham McTavish: dinner.



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Graham McTavish: I think somebody like well, from a skank's



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Graham McTavish: point of view, someone like William Wallace,



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Graham McTavish: he'd be interesting to spend an evening



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Graham McTavish: with.



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Graham McTavish: And possibly, let me think, somebody like



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Graham McTavish: well, yeah, i mean, i grew up loving Clint



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Graham McTavish: Eastwood, you see, and so I.



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Graham McTavish: It would be an interesting evening, clint



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Graham McTavish: Eastwood, william Wallace and William



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Graham McTavish: Shakespeare.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, wouldn't be bored.



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Marc Preston: I mean, i think he's directed by Clint



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Marc Preston: Eastwood is very interesting, he's just a



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Marc Preston: little different.



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Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i hear that too.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, Yeah, Like instead of yelling action,



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Marc Preston: he's like, okay, go, That's right.



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Marc Preston: It's amazing that guy's in his 90s.



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Marc Preston: What he's still doing I know Inspiring.



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Marc Preston: Now, if you go back, go back in time when



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Marc Preston: you were a young man and the first time you



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00:47:08,635 --> 00:47:10,881


Marc Preston: noticed somebody on TV or film who was your



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Marc Preston: first celebrity crush.



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Marc Preston: You just see them and they're like, oh you



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00:47:14,940 --> 00:47:16,203


Marc Preston: know, they grabbed your attention out of



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Marc Preston: the gate.



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Graham McTavish: And Tony Curtis in the persuaders.



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Marc Preston: You know, it's really interesting to bring



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Marc Preston: up the Roger Moore thing going thinking 007.



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Marc Preston: I have to ask, though, who is your favorite



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Marc Preston: James Bond, sean Connery, i mean no



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Marc Preston: question.



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Marc Preston: Of course, you know I would say Sean



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Marc Preston: Connery first, and I do have to say I grew



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Marc Preston: up with Roger Moore as being my 007 and my



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Marc Preston: but.



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Marc Preston: Daniel Craig they paid homage like with,



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Marc Preston: with, uh, I can't remember.



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Marc Preston: The movie was named after the estate that



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Marc Preston: he grew up on as a young child.



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Graham McTavish: But Skyfall.



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Marc Preston: Skyfall.



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Marc Preston: So James Bond was Scottish, which I didn't



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00:47:51,741 --> 00:47:53,466


Marc Preston: really put two and two together till later.



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Graham McTavish: So well, yeah, i mean that's what Sam



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Graham McTavish: Mendes decided.



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Graham McTavish: But yes, I mean I don't.



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Graham McTavish: I mean I think you know when you read the



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Graham McTavish: books, yeah, it's interesting.



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Graham McTavish: I mean, connery brought real danger to the



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Graham McTavish: character, which is very important if



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Graham McTavish: you're a fan of the books.



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Marc Preston: We went to Jamaica and I really wanted to



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Marc Preston: go to where, uh, where the, where the books



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Marc Preston: resortish golden.



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Marc Preston: I, yeah, and I do, we do, we just didn't



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Marc Preston: have time to, but I wanted to go.



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Marc Preston: But um, now, speaking of an island, the



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Marc Preston: next question if you were to be forced to



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Marc Preston: live on an exotic island, somewhere you



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Marc Preston: want to be, it's nice, but it doesn't have



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Marc Preston: streaming internet, so you're going to need



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Marc Preston: to bring, uh, to listen to music, one DVD,



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Marc Preston: uh, one CD rather, and also a movie you can



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Marc Preston: watch over and over again.



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Marc Preston: What would be a?



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Marc Preston: what would be the DVD you want to bring?



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Marc Preston: So, a movie and an album, the DVD, like a



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Marc Preston: TV show, you mean?



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Marc Preston: Uh, that's true, it could be a TV show, it



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Graham McTavish: Um, it's a mad, mad, mad mad world.



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Graham McTavish: I love that film.



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Marc Preston: I love that film Now, musically, what, what,



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Marc Preston: what would be the album you'd want to have



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Marc Preston: with you?



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Graham McTavish: Oh gosh.



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Graham McTavish: Well, probably it would have to be an album



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Graham McTavish: that I grew up with, so it would either be



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Graham McTavish: the clash or it would be maybe Pink Floyd,



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Graham McTavish: something like that.



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Marc Preston: I would like to see a resurgence of love



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Marc Preston: and affection for the what, what, what I



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Marc Preston: could be, we'd be called retro music now,



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Marc Preston: but there was such a such a definitive era.



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Marc Preston: You know things like that.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, that was um now, if you were to go



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Marc Preston: next question from the time you wake up in



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Marc Preston: the morning until the time you go to bed,



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Marc Preston: what would be the component parts?



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Marc Preston: How would you define a perfect day for you?



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Marc Preston: You know what would be the pieces of that



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Marc Preston: perfect day?



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Graham McTavish: Gosh good cup of coffee, followed by a good



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Graham McTavish: walk, followed by lunch with my kids,



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Graham McTavish: followed by I don't know a cycle ride.



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Graham McTavish: That would be a great thing to have.



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Graham McTavish: And, uh, going to see a movie at the cinema



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Graham McTavish: with my closest friends That would be a



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Graham McTavish: great day.



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Marc Preston: That is really, really nice And I like that



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Marc Preston: it starts off with a cup of coffee.



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Marc Preston: I can identify with that.



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Marc Preston: But it's not tea, Is it?



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Marc Preston: So why is it not tea?



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Marc Preston: Why is it coffee?



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Marc Preston: I have to ask a gentleman from your neck of



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Marc Preston: the woods I just, i just, uh, i've



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Marc Preston: transitioned into coffee, yeah.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, i would again when that trip



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Marc Preston: down to, uh, jamaica, we got a big bank of



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Marc Preston: coffee.



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Marc Preston: We got a big bank of this blue mountain



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Marc Preston: coffee And I and I'm telling you that is



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Marc Preston: some of the it's expensive as heck to get



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Marc Preston: if you're not there, but it's so that's



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Marc Preston: like my favorite coffee now.



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Marc Preston: Um, now, last couple of questions.



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Marc Preston: If you weren't doing this, if you did not



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Marc Preston: end up being a Thespian, having the career



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Marc Preston: you had, what would be the other path you



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Marc Preston: would be on?



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Marc Preston: Uh.



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Graham McTavish: I would have been a pilot.



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Graham McTavish: I would have been an airline pilot.



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Graham McTavish: That's what I was getting ready to do.



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Graham McTavish: I was going to join the RAF and I was going



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Graham McTavish: to follow in my father's footsteps.



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Marc Preston: Uh, did you?



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Marc Preston: did you ever do your pilots, uh, private



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Marc Preston: pilots license?



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Marc Preston: Sadly not, sadly not.



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Marc Preston: No, a great regret.



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Marc Preston: But the last question I've got for you if



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Marc Preston: you were to have that DeLorean and go back



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Marc Preston: in time and you had just a few minutes with



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Marc Preston: 16 year old you piece of advice that you'd



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Marc Preston: want to impart either make that moment of



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Marc Preston: your life better or maybe put you on a



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Marc Preston: little bit different of a path What advice



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Marc Preston: would you have for 16 year old Graham?



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Graham McTavish: I wouldn't want to give put myself on a



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Graham McTavish: different path, to be honest, I would just,



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Graham McTavish: I would just tell him to trust your



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Graham McTavish: instincts really and not worry so much.



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Marc Preston: That's.



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Marc Preston: One of the most common responses is don't



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Marc Preston: worry, trust the process, go through it.



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Marc Preston: Don't, don't stress yourself, um, because,



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Marc Preston: like you were saying, all those decisions



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Marc Preston: you make, you don't know the sequence of



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Marc Preston: events that get you from there to here.



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Marc Preston: Yeah Well, graham, thank you.



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Marc Preston: I do want to thank you for taking time out.



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Marc Preston: It really is special.



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Marc Preston: And again, i appreciate your education on



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Marc Preston: the all things Scotland.



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Marc Preston: Well, i'm going to continue my education.



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Marc Preston: I promise my pleasure.



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Marc Preston: All right, there you go.



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Marc Preston: Mr Graham McTavish, Enjoy this chat quite a



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Marc Preston: bit.



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Marc Preston: Don't forget, he is literally on TV



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Marc Preston: everywhere.



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Marc Preston: He is in House of the Dragon, the game of



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Marc Preston: Thrones prequel.



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Marc Preston: It's on HBO Max, or just Max.



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Marc Preston: I'm going to say HBO Max forever, i think.



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Marc Preston: Also, he is an outlander.



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Marc Preston: The stars show and his stars co-star, sam



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Marc Preston: Hewan, got together with him to make the



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Marc Preston: show Men in Kiltz road trip with Sam and



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Marc Preston: Graham.



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Marc Preston: That comes out the new season, that is on



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Marc Preston: August 11th.



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Marc Preston: And of course, you can check out Graham on



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Marc Preston: the show The Witcher on Netflix.



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Marc Preston: And that's it for me today.



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Marc Preston: And again, if you don't mind a little quick



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Marc Preston: moment to grab your phone, hit that



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Marc Preston: Huh, love those five stars working hard for



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Marc Preston: them And I want to thank you.



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Marc Preston: It does mean a lot to me coming back every



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Marc Preston: week to check out the show And if you're



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Marc Preston: brand new to the show, hey, come on back by



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Marc Preston: for another episode Shortly.



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Marc Preston: You go, have a great rest of your day.



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Marc Preston: If you are working out, if you're driving,



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Marc Preston: whatever you're up to right now, just be



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Marc Preston: safe.



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Marc Preston: I really do appreciate it And we'll get



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Marc Preston: together next time.



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Marc Preston: How about that?



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Graham McTavish

Actor

Graham McTavish is a Scottish television and film actor, best known for his roles as Dougal Mackenzie in the popular TV series "Outlander" (2014-16), as Dwalin in the "The Hobbit" trilogy for Peter Jackson (2012-14) as well as the Saint of Killers in AMC's series "Preacher", based on Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon's cult comic book series (2016 onwards). He also starred alongside Sylvester Stallone in "Rambo" (2008) and "Creed" (2015), making him the only actor to perform opposite Rocky AND Rambo. He is also known for his roles in numerous other TV shows and movies including "Red Dwarf" (1998), "24" (2009), "Rome" (2004), "The Finest Hours" (2015) and "Colombiana" (2011). As well as extensive theatre work throughout the UK including The Royal Court, and The Royal National Theatre, he is well known for his voice work on games and animated TV, including "Uncharted 2, 3, and 4", "Call of Duty", "Dante's Inferno", Loki in "Hulk v Thor" and "The Avengers", "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" and "Kung Fu Panda"