Shea Whigham

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Shea Whigam:
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He calls me and he goes.

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Shea Whigam: I've got someone else from the line.

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Shea Whigam: How about you want to meet?

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Shea Whigam: This is Tom Cruise on the line.

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Shea Whigam: So it's a three-way call and they say how

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Shea Whigam: would you like to be part of the mission

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Shea Whigam: family?

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Shea Whigam: For me it was as good as it gets.

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.

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Marc Preston: Well, hello, how are you?

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Marc Preston: Welcome back to the show.

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Marc Preston: I'm Marc Preston, and today a really great

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Marc Preston: episode with an incredibly talented actor.

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Marc Preston: I mean going back 17 years ago.

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Marc Preston: I saw his name on a call sheet on a project

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Marc Preston: I was working on, and ever since then I've

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Marc Preston: been following his career, the TV projects,

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Marc Preston: the movies he's been in.

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Marc Preston: I'm talking about Shea Whigham, one of those

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Marc Preston: actors.

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Marc Preston: No matter what he does, he always just

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Marc Preston: knocks it out of the park.

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Marc Preston: He's been in a whole lot of TV and film

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Marc Preston: projects like Perry Mason, joker, vice,

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Marc Preston: sicario, the Day of the Soldado, american

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Marc Preston: Hustle, silver Lighting's playbook, the

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Marc Preston: Wolf of Wall Street, and he's even got a

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Marc Preston: recurring role in the Mission Impossible

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Marc Preston: franchise.

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Marc Preston: You can see him right now, though, in the

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Marc Preston: stars miniseries, gaslit.

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Marc Preston: He plays G Gordon-Liddy in this miniseries

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Marc Preston: about the Nixon Watergate scandal.

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Marc Preston: He delivers what I think is just an

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Marc Preston: award-winning performance.

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Marc Preston: He just knocks it out of the park.

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Marc Preston: Once again.

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Marc Preston: Gaslit is the miniseries.

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Marc Preston: A lot of great performances in this.

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Marc Preston: Julia Roberts, I mean, without a doubt Also

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Marc Preston: an award-worthy performance.

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Marc Preston: Definitely love the great notes I've been

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Marc Preston: receiving as of late.

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Marc Preston: Certainly appreciate you being here and

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Marc Preston: let's get after it.

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Marc Preston: Today it's Shea Whigham Day right now on

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Marc Preston: Story and Craft.

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Marc Preston: How are you doing today, man?

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Shea Whigam: Oh good man, I'm doing good, thank you.

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Marc Preston: It's kind of funny.

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Marc Preston: I was talking to my kids earlier about this.

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Marc Preston: The first time I became aware of you was

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Marc Preston: seeing your name on a call sheet for Faith

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Marc Preston: of my Fathers, way back at the day 17 years

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Marc Preston: ago I think but we didn't have a scene

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Marc Preston: together, but I saw your name as like the

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Marc Preston: Shea guy.

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Marc Preston: Who is he?

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Marc Preston: And ever since then, every time I see your

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Marc Preston: name in a credit or a see, I'm like I

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Marc Preston: wanted to talk to that guy.

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Marc Preston: They had me shooting scenes over to

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Marc Preston: Catholic Girls School and I don't know

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Marc Preston: where they shot you.

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Marc Preston: I think y'all were at a studio, if I'm not

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Marc Preston: mistaken.

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Shea Whigam: Yeah, you know, the thing I remember about

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Shea Whigam: Faith and my Fathers was the Hurricane

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Shea Whigam: Katrina.

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Shea Whigam: I remember they had just hit and that was

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Shea Whigam: one of the first things that had come back.

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Shea Whigam: We were going in there to film.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, that's you know what.

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Marc Preston: God, I totally forgot that was after

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Marc Preston: Katrina.

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Marc Preston: I just that was all a little bit of a blur.

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Marc Preston: I'm originally from Texas, but I've been in

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Marc Preston: New Orleans, on and off Southern California,

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Marc Preston: but on and off of New Orleans about 20 plus

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Marc Preston: years or so.

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Marc Preston: So where are you located right now?

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Shea Whigam: Now, right now, I'm in Los Angeles.

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Shea Whigam: I've been in Los Angeles here.

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Shea Whigam: I was in New York for a long time and then,

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Shea Whigam: you know, followed some work out here.

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Marc Preston: So now, are you from New York originally or

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Marc Preston: did you find your way to New York?

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Shea Whigam: No, no, originally from born in Florida,

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Shea Whigam: born in Tallahassee, florida.

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Shea Whigam: My parents were going to school there and

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Shea Whigam: at Florida State.

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Shea Whigam: My father was a quarterback at Florida

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Shea Whigam: State Really, and yeah, and my mom and then

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Shea Whigam: he got a, got his degree and he got a law

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Shea Whigam: degree.

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Shea Whigam: He was kind of a John Grisham small town

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Shea Whigam: lawyer in a place called Sanford, florida,

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Shea Whigam: in Lake Mary, florida, really Lake Mary.

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Shea Whigam: My mother was a librarian at a high school

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Shea Whigam: there.

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Marc Preston: So Were you an athlete as well, or was it

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Marc Preston: always creative?

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Shea Whigam: Yeah, no, I was okay, I was okay at it.

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Shea Whigam: But my father, you know, he wasn't.

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Shea Whigam: He wasn't a jock, so to speak.

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Shea Whigam: He raised, he was a, he's a voracious

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Shea Whigam: reader and of course my mother's a

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Shea Whigam: librarian.

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Shea Whigam: So he raised my brother, jack and I,

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Shea Whigam: basically on the poets and the thinkers.

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Shea Whigam: So it was Byron, keats, shelley, it was

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Shea Whigam: Ingersoll, you know just some thinkers.

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Shea Whigam: So he, he wasn't.

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Shea Whigam: You know he used that to to the football, I

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Shea Whigam: guess to get his, you know his degree for

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Shea Whigam: the state.

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Marc Preston: Was this kind of your course of study when

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Marc Preston: you got off to college?

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Marc Preston: You know theater, or or did you, or was

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Marc Preston: something else your objective?

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Shea Whigam: Well, I don't know where you're from in

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Shea Whigam: Texas, but I kicked around and found my way

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Shea Whigam: for a minute into Tyler, Texas.

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Marc Preston: East Texas.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, I got a lot of family out there.

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Shea Whigam: Yeah, I was there for a minute and I

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Shea Whigam: auditioned, I started doing plays there.

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Shea Whigam: You know, I think, in back, I guess, my

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Shea Whigam: father, my father, you know, really, he

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Shea Whigam: would show me, you know, show me films.

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Shea Whigam: He loved Brando and he loved, you know,

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Shea Whigam: denarrow.

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Shea Whigam: And he didn't know anything about anything

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Shea Whigam: as far as that goes, but he, he, he would

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Shea Whigam: say to me you know, this, this guy they say

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Shea Whigam: is the best actor on the planet, or this,

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Shea Whigam: you know, you know.

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Shea Whigam: And so I remember that in early, early days,

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Shea Whigam: watching, you know, denarrow, o'pochino and

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Shea Whigam: Scarface or Ridley Scott, I mean, yeah,

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Shea Whigam: ridley's alien, you know.

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Shea Whigam: So it was just that.

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Shea Whigam: And then I had a fascination with it, and

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Shea Whigam: and, and I, I, I, I went down to San

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Shea Whigam: Antonio, texas, to audition for some of the,

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Shea Whigam: some of the schools, bu, but Boston and

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Shea Whigam: SUNY Purchase.

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Shea Whigam: And I got into SUNY Purchase and I got.

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Shea Whigam: I just wanted to be in New York.

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Shea Whigam: So I made my way to SUNY purchase and I got.

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Shea Whigam: As you get lucky in this business sometimes,

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Shea Whigam: I think, I think that's true.

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Marc Preston: I think sometimes it's the incalculable

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Marc Preston: thing being at the right place, right time,

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Marc Preston: right idea, right then you know, but what

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Marc Preston: took you to Tyler?

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Shea Whigam: Well, I played a little bit of tennis and I

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Shea Whigam: I had like a scholarship Scholarship there

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Shea Whigam: for that, but, as I like to say, it was

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Shea Whigam: very Quickly.

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Shea Whigam: I knew that I was out of my depth, so I

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Shea Whigam: turned that scholarship and I started

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Shea Whigam: taking Pros and poetry reading courses

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Shea Whigam: there, and so we would just read poetry and

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Shea Whigam: we would read and I always I started just

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Shea Whigam: Feathering in performance based Monologues

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Shea Whigam: that I shouldn't, and the teacher and the

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Shea Whigam: professor was like you know, this is a,

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Shea Whigam: this is a reading guy, You're doing

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Shea Whigam: monologues and why don't you come try out

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Shea Whigam: for the theater?

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Shea Whigam: I tried out for a Sam Shepherd play.

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Shea Whigam: Okay, lie, the yeah, and I did lie of the

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Shea Whigam: mind and it just opened up my world.

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Marc Preston: I always am envious whenever I hear

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Marc Preston: interviews with actors who had a chance to

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Marc Preston: act with them or to have.

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Marc Preston: It's actually living legend kind of like

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Marc Preston: that, you know.

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Shea Whigam: Oh man, I remember, I remember Jeff Nichols,

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Shea Whigam: who I did take shelter with, and Mike

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Shea Whigam: Shannon.

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Shea Whigam: Jeff had, jeff Used Sam in a couple of his

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Shea Whigam: films and I used to just pepper Jeff

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Shea Whigam: Nichols you know about Sam Shepherd and

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Shea Whigam: Mike Shannon went, I remember Mike said,

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Shea Whigam: michael said I went to this party and Sam

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Shea Whigam: was across the room and I, just, I, just I

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Shea Whigam: stared at Sam.

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Shea Whigam: You know, I didn't, I couldn't even, I

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Shea Whigam: didn't have the balls to go up and didn't

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Shea Whigam: even say anything.

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Shea Whigam: It was Sam Shepherd, you know, and I I

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Shea Whigam: lived in Chelsea at one point, right after

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Shea Whigam: I got out of school.

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Shea Whigam: I lived in Chelsea and I was slinging

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Shea Whigam: coffee in Chelsea right next to the Chelsea

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Shea Whigam: hotel when he and Patty Smith he was doing

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Shea Whigam: his writing and she was, you know, they

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Shea Whigam: were living there.

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Shea Whigam: So it had all this history for me with

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Shea Whigam: Shepherd.

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Marc Preston: It's funny you mentioned Michael Shannon.

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Marc Preston: I was speaking with Ariel Vroman, who

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Marc Preston: directed him in Iceman, and I was like how

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Marc Preston: did I miss this movie?

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Marc Preston: This is such a great movie.

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Marc Preston: And then In Waco, he's just such a great

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Marc Preston: chest.

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Marc Preston: I'll drink his Kool-Aid whatever he's in.

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Marc Preston: I'm going to go see it, without a doubt.

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Marc Preston: But but you man, I tell you, I got to tell

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Marc Preston: you that was just spot-on, man.

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Marc Preston: I, that Waco performance was just.

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Marc Preston: I thought that was such a great mini series.

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Shea Whigam: You know it was the doubt was John and Drew

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Shea Whigam: Dowell and Mike and I.

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Shea Whigam: You know Mike and I have such a history.

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Shea Whigam: We go back to my first film ever, tiger

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Shea Whigam: land.

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Shea Whigam: Mike did two scenes in it and so, um, I

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Shea Whigam: remember thinking, you know, it was all

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Shea Whigam: these young, young guys on on Tiger land.

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Shea Whigam: They were about to kind of pop and Mike and

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Shea Whigam: I we Early days, we're doing a ton of

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Shea Whigam: Oh yeah, I mean, it's the tapes that did

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Shea Whigam: Well, I, I mean for me, I, I, I don't.

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Shea Whigam: You know what I mean For me, Marc.

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Shea Whigam: I enjoy the discovery and the research, the

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Marc Preston: Putting this show together.

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Marc Preston: The ninth one did you have any scenes with

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Shea Whigam: No, no, my stuff on Fast was was mainly

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Shea Whigam: I was tight Paul and we had an adversary

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Shea Whigam: I had, we had just filmed right before that.

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Marc Preston: Now.

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Marc Preston: Now going back to another you know real

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Marc Preston: Don't look up Adam McKay and of course he

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Marc Preston: I think he wrote it also.

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Marc Preston: What was that like?

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Marc Preston: Now I'm curious about the Adam McKay.

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Shea Whigam: It it's about directors I've wanted.

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Shea Whigam: I've really kind of I told my the people

468

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Shea Whigam: that represent me, I want to work with the

469

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Shea Whigam: best directors because that's going to get

470

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Shea Whigam: you to the best material.

471

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Shea Whigam: And Adam McKay was at the top of my right,

472

00:18:33,486 --> 00:18:36,504

Shea Whigam: at the top of my list, and that's why, like

473

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Shea Whigam: Fast and Furious, you go.

474

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Shea Whigam: Well, why did you do that?

475

00:18:38,620 --> 00:18:41,068

Shea Whigam: Justin Lin, I'd seen Justin's early work.

476

00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,328

Shea Whigam: So when McKay approached me, that and that

477

00:18:45,408 --> 00:18:47,613

Shea Whigam: that was really that happened very quickly.

478

00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:49,707

Shea Whigam: I didn't have a lot of time to prepare for

479

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Shea Whigam: that.

480

00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:52,606

Shea Whigam: Mckay called me and said something had

481

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Shea Whigam: happened to an actor.

482

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Shea Whigam: And when I come on board and I was doing

483

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Shea Whigam: something else at the time, I think

484

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Shea Whigam: Boardwalk Empire and when I so they let me

485

00:19:00,464 --> 00:19:02,569

Shea Whigam: come on board and McKay really let me,

486

00:19:03,090 --> 00:19:04,533

Shea Whigam: really let me build that character.

487

00:19:04,980 --> 00:19:07,266

Shea Whigam: So he's not in, I'm not in much of it, but

488

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Shea Whigam: it was with Amy and with Christian Bale,

489

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Shea Whigam: who I've done, who I admire in no, in

490

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Shea Whigam: normal shape.

491

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Marc Preston: Oh, he did it.

492

00:19:14,481 --> 00:19:15,685

Marc Preston: He knocked it out of the park, without a

493

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Marc Preston: doubt.

494

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Marc Preston: But what's it like being director?

495

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Marc Preston: He definitely is.

496

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Marc Preston: Just, I think like don't look up.

497

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Marc Preston: I mean, it was such a I I loved it, I

498

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Marc Preston: thought it was a great movie.

499

00:19:25,522 --> 00:19:27,187

Marc Preston: But what was the experience like with him?

500

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Shea Whigam: The first word that comes to mind about

501

00:19:30,665 --> 00:19:32,049

Shea Whigam: McKay is his intelligence.

502

00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,827

Shea Whigam: He's literally the smartest guy, probably

503

00:19:35,867 --> 00:19:37,751

Shea Whigam: the smartest guy in every room he walks in.

504

00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,544

Shea Whigam: He loves actors.

505

00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,924

Shea Whigam: That's why you get Christian coming back

506

00:19:42,706 --> 00:19:45,913

Shea Whigam: time and time again with him.

507

00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,041

Shea Whigam: He allows you to.

508

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Shea Whigam: Really, it was a very the experience was

509

00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:53,432

Shea Whigam: was phenomenal to me.

510

00:19:53,593 --> 00:19:57,340

Shea Whigam: Yeah, I mean, he, he lets you run and then

511

00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:00,307

Shea Whigam: if he sees something, he'll come in and you

512

00:20:00,328 --> 00:20:02,660

Shea Whigam: know, say, think about this or that.

513

00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,867

Shea Whigam: And if you're, if you're in it, he, he

514

00:20:04,927 --> 00:20:05,730

Shea Whigam: loves what you're doing.

515

00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,605

Shea Whigam: He, he really lets you run with it.

516

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Shea Whigam: I love him.

517

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Marc Preston: Kind of the Mount Rushmore people I'd love

518

00:20:11,765 --> 00:20:13,950

Marc Preston: to talk to, who I think are just incredibly

519

00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:14,351

Marc Preston: talented.

520

00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,384

Marc Preston: Sam Rockwell, I think just there's

521

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Marc Preston: something about that guy, just everything

522

00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:18,290

Marc Preston: he's in.

523

00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,768

Marc Preston: Who were you mostly connecting with and

524

00:20:21,808 --> 00:20:22,871

Marc Preston: scenes and vice?

525

00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,444

Marc Preston: Were you with Sam Rockwell?

526

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Marc Preston: Yeah, please pardon my memory.

527

00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,845

Marc Preston: My kids make fun of me all the time.

528

00:20:27,865 --> 00:20:31,804

Shea Whigam: That's okay, that's okay, I'm with me,

529

00:20:31,824 --> 00:20:34,190

Shea Whigam: adams and and and Christian.

530

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Shea Whigam: That's mainly.

531

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Shea Whigam: That was my stuff.

532

00:20:37,123 --> 00:20:40,269

Shea Whigam: Basically was just aiming so and I had done,

533

00:20:41,893 --> 00:20:43,798

Shea Whigam: I had done American hustle with Amy.

534

00:20:45,027 --> 00:20:45,912

Shea Whigam: So you know that was.

535

00:20:46,153 --> 00:20:47,983

Shea Whigam: That was fun going back in with her again,

536

00:20:48,224 --> 00:20:48,385

Shea Whigam: you know.

537

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Marc Preston: You talk about the directors, david or

538

00:20:51,192 --> 00:20:51,553

Marc Preston: Russell.

539

00:20:51,593 --> 00:20:54,421

Marc Preston: I mean you that and American American

540

00:20:54,581 --> 00:20:56,707

Marc Preston: hustle silver linings playbook, that's yeah,

541

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Marc Preston: I can kind of see that thread, now what

542

00:20:58,692 --> 00:20:59,354

Marc Preston: you're talking about.

543

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Shea Whigam: You know, man, I, when I got on Boardwalk

544

00:21:02,451 --> 00:21:06,180

Shea Whigam: Empire, that was the first time I'd worked

545

00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,914

Shea Whigam: with Scorsese, and so I go, scorsese was

546

00:21:09,954 --> 00:21:11,560

Shea Whigam: coming to the television for the first time

547

00:21:12,103 --> 00:21:12,645

Shea Whigam: and it was the boy.

548

00:21:12,926 --> 00:21:14,892

Shea Whigam: It was the guys from the sopranos, tim Van

549

00:21:14,932 --> 00:21:16,256

Shea Whigam: Patten and Terry winter.

550

00:21:16,998 --> 00:21:19,994

Shea Whigam: And Van Patten quickly became like my

551

00:21:20,034 --> 00:21:22,963

Shea Whigam: closest of the close friends and so when I

552

00:21:23,023 --> 00:21:25,110

Shea Whigam: got on that I was like I asked them.

553

00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:27,317

Shea Whigam: I said, if I get the opportunity while I'm

554

00:21:27,357 --> 00:21:29,644

Shea Whigam: doing the show to work with any of the

555

00:21:29,684 --> 00:21:32,510

Shea Whigam: greats Directing wise with you, will you

556

00:21:32,530 --> 00:21:33,051

Shea Whigam: allow that?

557

00:21:33,331 --> 00:21:35,095

Shea Whigam: And they said absolutely so.

558

00:21:35,656 --> 00:21:37,760

Shea Whigam: I went on a murderous row of directors

559

00:21:38,226 --> 00:21:39,570

Shea Whigam: While on Boardwalk Empire.

560

00:21:39,690 --> 00:21:42,297

Shea Whigam: I mean I went with Scorsese and then I did

561

00:21:43,926 --> 00:21:45,351

Shea Whigam: Wolf of Wall Street with Marty.

562

00:21:45,391 --> 00:21:50,511

Shea Whigam: Again I did Savages with Oliver Stone.

563

00:21:51,593 --> 00:21:55,494

Shea Whigam: I hit Terry Malick, verner Herzog and one

564

00:21:55,535 --> 00:21:58,889

Shea Whigam: of the boys and and and and and David O

565

00:21:58,929 --> 00:22:01,928

Shea Whigam: Russell twice During Boardwalk Empire.

566

00:22:02,449 --> 00:22:06,136

Shea Whigam: So Boardwalk was, you know, the Sun man and

567

00:22:06,157 --> 00:22:09,787

Shea Whigam: everything was, you know, kind of orbiting

568

00:22:09,827 --> 00:22:10,790

Shea Whigam: around that film.

569

00:22:10,850 --> 00:22:11,210

Shea Whigam: Wise.

570

00:22:11,712 --> 00:22:13,155

Shea Whigam: But coming back real quick, I want to

571

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Shea Whigam: answer your question about Sam Rockwell.

572

00:22:16,127 --> 00:22:17,674

Shea Whigam: You're not wrong about Rockwell.

573

00:22:18,136 --> 00:22:20,165

Shea Whigam: He is in my age group.

574

00:22:20,627 --> 00:22:22,052

Shea Whigam: I always felt like it was.

575

00:22:22,755 --> 00:22:25,064

Shea Whigam: It was what Phil sweet Seymour Hoffman was

576

00:22:25,104 --> 00:22:27,690

Shea Whigam: doing Heath Ledger.

577

00:22:28,151 --> 00:22:30,697

Shea Whigam: At the time of his passing I think Colin

578

00:22:30,717 --> 00:22:31,438

Shea Whigam: Farrell was doing it.

579

00:22:31,585 --> 00:22:33,771

Shea Whigam: He's doing amazing stuff and Sam is someone

580

00:22:33,811 --> 00:22:35,997

Shea Whigam: that Sam and I go back and forth.

581

00:22:36,825 --> 00:22:39,532

Shea Whigam: Respect I have for him is through the roof.

582

00:22:39,892 --> 00:22:41,396

Shea Whigam: Matter of fact, I'm going to see his play

583

00:22:41,456 --> 00:22:44,510

Shea Whigam: next week in American American Buffalo in

584

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Shea Whigam: New York and coming back to gaslit what,

585

00:22:46,818 --> 00:22:48,163

Shea Whigam: how did that come together for you?

586

00:22:48,403 --> 00:22:51,852

Shea Whigam: You know, man, I, I was doing mission, I'm

587

00:22:51,912 --> 00:22:53,997

Shea Whigam: doing mission impossible seven, and I'm

588

00:22:54,037 --> 00:22:55,989

Shea Whigam: about to Eight, number eight.

589

00:22:56,530 --> 00:22:58,735

Shea Whigam: And so I'm sitting in London and they say

590

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Shea Whigam: Matt Ross, who directed Captain Fantastic,

591

00:23:03,328 --> 00:23:05,131

Shea Whigam: he's called want you to be a part of this.

592

00:23:05,492 --> 00:23:07,316

Shea Whigam: And I had done homecoming with Julia

593

00:23:07,376 --> 00:23:11,231

Shea Whigam: Roberts and Sam Esmael, that was the and so

594

00:23:11,271 --> 00:23:12,575

Shea Whigam: they, they knew my work.

595

00:23:12,595 --> 00:23:16,932

Shea Whigam: So when, when, when, when, matt Ross said,

596

00:23:16,952 --> 00:23:21,028

Shea Whigam: I want Shea, we're gonna play Liddy, julie

597

00:23:21,248 --> 00:23:23,091

Shea Whigam: and Esmael both went to bat for me.

598

00:23:23,592 --> 00:23:25,516

Shea Whigam: So that's how that came to be.

599

00:23:25,556 --> 00:23:27,139

Shea Whigam: And then conversations started.

600

00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:34,207

Shea Whigam: And so so, tom, so what I'm doing, mission

601

00:23:34,227 --> 00:23:36,353

Shea Whigam: impossible seven was taken, taking a long

602

00:23:36,394 --> 00:23:37,818

Shea Whigam: time, because during a pandemic, we were

603

00:23:37,838 --> 00:23:39,383

Shea Whigam: trying to figure out how do you, how do you

604

00:23:39,423 --> 00:23:40,607

Shea Whigam: do this thing at the same time.

605

00:23:41,129 --> 00:23:44,790

Shea Whigam: And so I went to to cruise, and, and

606

00:23:45,505 --> 00:23:46,869

Shea Whigam: Macquarie, and I said, listen, I have a

607

00:23:46,889 --> 00:23:48,514

Shea Whigam: chance to go play G chord and Liddy and

608

00:23:48,774 --> 00:23:51,891

Shea Whigam: thing, and, and they and I was still

609

00:23:51,972 --> 00:23:53,859

Shea Whigam: filming, and they go, you know what?

610

00:23:54,301 --> 00:23:55,445

Shea Whigam: We're gonna look, we're gonna figure out,

611

00:23:55,545 --> 00:23:56,488

Shea Whigam: we're gonna figure this out.

612

00:23:56,829 --> 00:24:00,248

Shea Whigam: So cruise was kind enough to Get me out in

613

00:24:00,348 --> 00:24:02,473

Shea Whigam: order to have the time for the research to

614

00:24:02,573 --> 00:24:03,435

Shea Whigam: do Liddy.

615

00:24:03,856 --> 00:24:05,038

Shea Whigam: So that's how it came out.

616

00:24:05,646 --> 00:24:05,927

Marc Preston: Okay.

617

00:24:05,947 --> 00:24:08,094

Marc Preston: So he structured the shooting to kind of

618

00:24:08,255 --> 00:24:09,941

Marc Preston: get you all locked, locked in and all your

619

00:24:09,981 --> 00:24:11,548

Marc Preston: shit scenes are done before you Headed off

620

00:24:11,568 --> 00:24:13,081

Marc Preston: to do gaslet, or you went and did gaslet

621

00:24:13,101 --> 00:24:13,525

Marc Preston: and came back.

622

00:24:14,166 --> 00:24:17,112

Shea Whigam: No, no, I went gas, I did gaslet and I owed,

623

00:24:17,372 --> 00:24:20,177

Shea Whigam: like I owed, a couple of out, a couple of

624

00:24:20,237 --> 00:24:24,950

Shea Whigam: scenes from I'm doing in gaslet.

625

00:24:24,971 --> 00:24:27,477

Shea Whigam: You'll see, once we start the in episode

626

00:24:27,497 --> 00:24:28,949

Shea Whigam: two we start where they were in the Howard

627

00:24:28,969 --> 00:24:32,467

Shea Whigam: Johnson's and we start the whole bungling

628

00:24:32,527 --> 00:24:33,290

Shea Whigam: of the burglary.

629

00:24:33,913 --> 00:24:37,293

Shea Whigam: And so I had to do that jump on it's an

630

00:24:37,353 --> 00:24:39,038

Shea Whigam: embarrassment of riches for an actor

631

00:24:39,238 --> 00:24:41,645

Shea Whigam: because I had to do that shoot for about 12

632

00:24:41,665 --> 00:24:45,447

Shea Whigam: hours, go to LAX, jump on a plane Flight of

633

00:24:45,487 --> 00:24:48,515

Shea Whigam: Birmingham, england, and then we shot the

634

00:24:48,575 --> 00:24:51,933

Shea Whigam: rest of Mission seven for me and they came

635

00:24:51,993 --> 00:24:54,381

Shea Whigam: back immediately to the airport and

636

00:24:54,462 --> 00:24:55,425

Shea Whigam: finished up gaslet.

637

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Marc Preston: It's tremendous amount of fun.

638

00:24:56,608 --> 00:24:58,312

Marc Preston: You're talking about how you got gaslet.

639

00:24:58,452 --> 00:25:00,357

Marc Preston: Julie Roberts, being said, went to bat for

640

00:25:00,397 --> 00:25:00,477

Marc Preston: you.

641

00:25:00,927 --> 00:25:04,170

Marc Preston: How does it feel when that kind of when

642

00:25:04,190 --> 00:25:05,975

Marc Preston: your career evolved to the point where

643

00:25:06,577 --> 00:25:08,362

Marc Preston: you're not auditioning nearly as much

644

00:25:08,402 --> 00:25:10,247

Marc Preston: you're actually having people say, yeah, we

645

00:25:10,287 --> 00:25:11,771

Marc Preston: want Shea to be in this thing it's?

646

00:25:12,513 --> 00:25:13,495

Marc Preston: How did that feel and that start

647

00:25:13,516 --> 00:25:14,137

Marc Preston: transitioning?

648

00:25:14,225 --> 00:25:16,371

Marc Preston: Was it an awkward kind of a feeling or did

649

00:25:16,431 --> 00:25:18,136

Marc Preston: it feel kind of like a natural progression

650

00:25:18,196 --> 00:25:18,457

Marc Preston: for you?

651

00:25:19,246 --> 00:25:21,811

Shea Whigam: It's, it's not awkward, it's, it's an, it's

652

00:25:21,851 --> 00:25:23,475

Shea Whigam: a nice feeling, let's put it that way.

653

00:25:23,976 --> 00:25:27,089

Shea Whigam: It's nice that people I've seen oh that's

654

00:25:27,129 --> 00:25:29,096

Shea Whigam: why I, like mission seven came about,

655

00:25:29,985 --> 00:25:32,492

Shea Whigam: macquarie, had seen homecoming and what I'd

656

00:25:32,532 --> 00:25:35,392

Shea Whigam: done in that, and then there was a mutual

657

00:25:35,472 --> 00:25:37,042

Shea Whigam: respect between the two of us and he said

658

00:25:37,062 --> 00:25:38,127

Shea Whigam: you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna write

659

00:25:38,167 --> 00:25:39,410

Shea Whigam: something for you in the next mission

660

00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:39,972

Shea Whigam: impossible.

661

00:25:40,232 --> 00:25:45,152

Shea Whigam: That's January of like 2018, and so the

662

00:25:45,212 --> 00:25:48,602

Shea Whigam: whole calendar year goes by of 2018 and I'm

663

00:25:48,622 --> 00:25:49,505

Shea Whigam: like this is never gonna.

664

00:25:49,505 --> 00:25:51,694

Shea Whigam: I, you know, this happened, I'm sure.

665

00:25:51,848 --> 00:25:55,362

Shea Whigam: And December I get a call from a text from

666

00:25:55,516 --> 00:25:57,956

Shea Whigam: a quarry and it's from like a 4-4 number

667

00:25:58,036 --> 00:26:01,605

Shea Whigam: plus 4-4 and said is this still you, mchugh

668

00:26:02,687 --> 00:26:03,008

Shea Whigam: and I?

669

00:26:03,108 --> 00:26:04,231

Shea Whigam: So it was like that.

670

00:26:04,251 --> 00:26:05,995

Shea Whigam: It was like at a mission impossible, I go,

671

00:26:06,095 --> 00:26:06,436

Shea Whigam: he goes.

672

00:26:07,926 --> 00:26:09,752

Shea Whigam: I'm calling from a UK number.

673

00:26:09,832 --> 00:26:10,314

Shea Whigam: Pick up.

674

00:26:10,414 --> 00:26:12,695

Shea Whigam: When I do so, I go.

675

00:26:12,876 --> 00:26:13,945

Shea Whigam: I didn't, I didn't know what it was about.

676

00:26:14,366 --> 00:26:17,534

Shea Whigam: So I'm here at the house and I in, he, he

677

00:26:17,594 --> 00:26:19,849

Shea Whigam: calls me and he goes how would you like to

678

00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:20,130

Shea Whigam: come?

679

00:26:20,833 --> 00:26:22,982

Shea Whigam: Before I do that, Shea, I've got someone

680

00:26:23,023 --> 00:26:23,585

Shea Whigam: else on the line.

681

00:26:23,686 --> 00:26:24,493

Shea Whigam: How about you want to meet?

682

00:26:24,513 --> 00:26:25,845

Shea Whigam: This is Tom Cruise on the line.

683

00:26:26,287 --> 00:26:27,755

Shea Whigam: So it's a three-way call and they say how

684

00:26:27,775 --> 00:26:28,922

Shea Whigam: would you like to be part of the mission,

685

00:26:28,962 --> 00:26:31,991

Shea Whigam: family and and you know, for me it was as

686

00:26:32,031 --> 00:26:32,732

Shea Whigam: good as it gets.

687

00:26:33,073 --> 00:26:36,669

Shea Whigam: So the homecoming got that home, you know.

688

00:26:37,986 --> 00:26:40,493

Shea Whigam: You know, boardwalk got a lot of these

689

00:26:40,574 --> 00:26:43,668

Shea Whigam: things for me and it's, it's a testament,

690

00:26:43,808 --> 00:26:46,435

Shea Whigam: like for anyone that that's out there that

691

00:26:46,475 --> 00:26:47,658

Shea Whigam: wants to be an actor, that it.

692

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Shea Whigam: It's about the work, work, begets, work.

693

00:26:52,436 --> 00:26:56,731

Shea Whigam: I think you know, because I'm a guy man, I

694

00:26:56,771 --> 00:26:58,535

Shea Whigam: don't do any social media.

695

00:26:58,735 --> 00:26:59,056

Shea Whigam: I don't.

696

00:26:59,096 --> 00:27:00,839

Shea Whigam: I've never been on Facebook, I've never

697

00:27:01,765 --> 00:27:03,270

Shea Whigam: Tweeted in my life, I've never.

698

00:27:03,671 --> 00:27:06,908

Shea Whigam: So it's about the work for me, trying to

699

00:27:06,948 --> 00:27:08,453

Shea Whigam: just put together characters.

700

00:27:08,534 --> 00:27:08,714

Shea Whigam: Man.

701

00:27:09,486 --> 00:27:09,747

Marc Preston: That's.

702

00:27:09,808 --> 00:27:11,334

Marc Preston: You know, that's such a funny thing because

703

00:27:11,756 --> 00:27:13,020

Marc Preston: I I'm very much the same way.

704

00:27:13,041 --> 00:27:14,125

Marc Preston: I was discussing it with my kids.

705

00:27:14,205 --> 00:27:17,075

Marc Preston: I said if my gig was not somewhat dependent

706

00:27:17,115 --> 00:27:19,599

Marc Preston: upon Social media I wouldn't even mess with

707

00:27:19,639 --> 00:27:20,365

Marc Preston: it, to be honest with you.

708

00:27:20,465 --> 00:27:23,193

Marc Preston: But but there's a younger generation that

709

00:27:23,675 --> 00:27:26,122

Marc Preston: you know, having hundreds of thousands or a

710

00:27:26,162 --> 00:27:28,588

Marc Preston: million or two followers Could potentially

711

00:27:28,628 --> 00:27:29,290

Marc Preston: impact the career.

712

00:27:37,088 --> 00:27:38,592

Marc Preston: I do have to say one movie that I've saw.

713

00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,825

Marc Preston: I only saw about half of it, but that to

714

00:27:40,845 --> 00:27:43,492

Marc Preston: the stars again, with JD Evermore in there

715

00:27:44,302 --> 00:27:44,562

Marc Preston: that was.

716

00:27:44,963 --> 00:27:46,307

Marc Preston: That was one of those movies that was

717

00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:48,773

Marc Preston: sitting in the DVR and whatever came up

718

00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,346

Marc Preston: came up and you know, having kids, things

719

00:27:51,407 --> 00:27:53,171

Marc Preston: happen like, oh shit, I saw him watch that

720

00:27:53,191 --> 00:27:56,188

Marc Preston: movie yet but where did you, where did you

721

00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:56,950

Marc Preston: all shoot that film?

722

00:27:57,521 --> 00:28:01,662

Shea Whigam: We were in Enid Enid, oklahoma and I

723

00:28:01,702 --> 00:28:04,868

Shea Whigam: remember you know I'll get from time to

724

00:28:04,908 --> 00:28:07,914

Shea Whigam: time I'll get young filmmakers, you know

725

00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,467

Shea Whigam: asked me to come do a couple of scenes in

726

00:28:10,507 --> 00:28:11,169

Shea Whigam: an independent.

727

00:28:11,209 --> 00:28:13,164

Shea Whigam: They have no money, it's in the middle of

728

00:28:13,225 --> 00:28:15,483

Shea Whigam: nowhere and I remember Martha, she

729

00:28:15,523 --> 00:28:19,891

Shea Whigam: approached me and I I just I loved her

730

00:28:19,971 --> 00:28:22,382

Shea Whigam: spirit and the producers on it and so I

731

00:28:22,804 --> 00:28:23,908

Shea Whigam: flew and did a couple of scenes.

732

00:28:23,980 --> 00:28:25,025

Shea Whigam: I think it's a beautiful film.

733

00:28:25,421 --> 00:28:26,323

Shea Whigam: I think it was.

734

00:28:26,704 --> 00:28:28,629

Marc Preston: It was one of those things like I remember

735

00:28:28,669 --> 00:28:29,110

Marc Preston: watching going.

736

00:28:29,170 --> 00:28:30,815

Marc Preston: I need to save it, I need to come back and

737

00:28:30,855 --> 00:28:31,099

Marc Preston: watch it.

738

00:28:31,180 --> 00:28:32,384

Marc Preston: But you know, in the world and doing what

739

00:28:32,424 --> 00:28:34,489

Marc Preston: I'm doing here and I'm also acting and

740

00:28:34,510 --> 00:28:37,365

Marc Preston: doing voiceover it's it's like watching and

741

00:28:37,405 --> 00:28:39,871

Marc Preston: consuming is such a small part of my day.

742

00:28:39,911 --> 00:28:42,053

Marc Preston: It seems like I have to start building a

743

00:28:42,114 --> 00:28:42,720

Marc Preston: hierarchy of things.

744

00:28:43,064 --> 00:28:44,340

Marc Preston: I definitely want to watch this.

745

00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,668

Marc Preston: Why gaslit will be my binge this weekend.

746

00:28:47,381 --> 00:28:50,772

Marc Preston: Your folks obviously they weren't in the

747

00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:52,578

Marc Preston: business, of course, but your family is

748

00:28:52,618 --> 00:28:55,047

Marc Preston: anybody else in acting or do you have any

749

00:28:55,087 --> 00:28:55,369

Marc Preston: kids?

750

00:28:57,022 --> 00:29:00,808

Shea Whigam: Yeah, my, yeah, my, my.

751

00:29:00,948 --> 00:29:03,872

Shea Whigam: One son of mine wants to be a filmmaker and

752

00:29:04,693 --> 00:29:06,576

Shea Whigam: my daughter is she's.

753

00:29:07,421 --> 00:29:10,000

Shea Whigam: She's doing very well, she, she's an act,

754

00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:11,905

Shea Whigam: she wants to be an actress and I'm letting

755

00:29:11,965 --> 00:29:14,352

Shea Whigam: her that be her experience and letting her

756

00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,501

Shea Whigam: you know I very much believe in that and

757

00:29:18,561 --> 00:29:20,425

Shea Whigam: she's about to start something really cool

758

00:29:21,849 --> 00:29:23,252

Shea Whigam: with Seth MacFarlane next.

759

00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,265

Shea Whigam: So who does fun?

760

00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:25,987

Marc Preston: It has to be fun.

761

00:29:26,047 --> 00:29:29,617

Shea Whigam: Yeah, yeah, he's a genius, that guy.

762

00:29:29,657 --> 00:29:30,880

Marc Preston: So yeah, so funny.

763

00:29:31,261 --> 00:29:33,146

Marc Preston: It was just talking to Neil deGrasse Tyson

764

00:29:33,327 --> 00:29:34,470

Marc Preston: a little while back and they were talking

765

00:29:34,490 --> 00:29:36,144

Marc Preston: about Cosmos and he said he just happened

766

00:29:36,165 --> 00:29:38,838

Marc Preston: to bump into bump into him and he was like

767

00:29:38,858 --> 00:29:40,234

Marc Preston: hey, you know, I got a little extra money

768

00:29:40,274 --> 00:29:40,660

Marc Preston: sitting around.

769

00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,649

Marc Preston: You want to do something with Cosmos by

770

00:29:43,689 --> 00:29:43,870

Marc Preston: chance?

771

00:29:44,260 --> 00:29:45,683

Marc Preston: You know, it seems like Seth MacFarlane

772

00:29:45,723 --> 00:29:48,067

Marc Preston: just be kind of a cool guy to collaborate

773

00:29:48,107 --> 00:29:48,248

Marc Preston: with.

774

00:29:49,009 --> 00:29:49,871

Shea Whigam: He's pretty smart, huh.

775

00:29:50,672 --> 00:29:51,554

Marc Preston: Oh, indeed, indeed.

776

00:29:51,634 --> 00:29:53,287

Marc Preston: Yeah, so you have those two kids, you say.

777

00:29:55,341 --> 00:29:57,633

Shea Whigam: No, no, I have four kids, I got four kids.

778

00:29:57,754 --> 00:29:58,180

Shea Whigam: Oh, four, okay, yeah.

779

00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:58,863

Marc Preston: I got, are they?

780

00:29:59,364 --> 00:30:01,091

Marc Preston: Are they kind of off on the road now, or

781

00:30:01,131 --> 00:30:01,673

Marc Preston: are they still?

782

00:30:02,075 --> 00:30:03,400

Shea Whigam: They're here, man.

783

00:30:03,722 --> 00:30:05,754

Shea Whigam: I, we, you know, we've got our hands full.

784

00:30:06,539 --> 00:30:07,423

Marc Preston: Yeah, I'm.

785

00:30:07,804 --> 00:30:08,828

Marc Preston: I'm at that point where I got.

786

00:30:08,909 --> 00:30:10,937

Marc Preston: I got a 19 year old who's just coming back

787

00:30:10,997 --> 00:30:12,605

Marc Preston: home from college and one who's starting

788

00:30:12,646 --> 00:30:13,995

Marc Preston: college next year, and I got one who's

789

00:30:14,015 --> 00:30:15,764

Marc Preston: going to wrap up in a couple of high school

790

00:30:15,805 --> 00:30:17,874

Marc Preston: in a couple of years and going oh my God, I

791

00:30:17,895 --> 00:30:19,304

Marc Preston: need to busy myself because this is going

792

00:30:19,324 --> 00:30:20,339

Marc Preston: to be rough when they leave.

793

00:30:20,782 --> 00:30:24,805

Marc Preston: Yeah, so the now, as far as what you're

794

00:30:24,825 --> 00:30:26,490

Marc Preston: working on right now, what do you have now?

795

00:30:27,381 --> 00:30:30,190

Marc Preston: Gaslets in the in the can and it's been

796

00:30:30,250 --> 00:30:30,430

Marc Preston: aired.

797

00:30:31,141 --> 00:30:32,467

Marc Preston: What else do you have coming up in the pipe?

798

00:30:33,140 --> 00:30:35,525

Shea Whigam: Well, I'm, I'm doing Perry Mason second

799

00:30:35,565 --> 00:30:39,073

Shea Whigam: season for HBO and I leave for mission

800

00:30:39,113 --> 00:30:42,368

Shea Whigam: impossible eight in Europe in about in a

801

00:30:42,408 --> 00:30:42,950

Shea Whigam: couple of weeks.

802

00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,006

Shea Whigam: So you know we'll.

803

00:30:45,267 --> 00:30:47,494

Shea Whigam: We'll get back then there with Tom and

804

00:30:47,916 --> 00:30:50,770

Shea Whigam: Macquarie and that gang and I love, I love

805

00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:51,293

Shea Whigam: doing that.

806

00:30:51,736 --> 00:30:52,320

Shea Whigam: It's amazing.

807

00:30:52,461 --> 00:30:54,715

Shea Whigam: I mean those two guys are like, they're

808

00:30:54,796 --> 00:30:59,249

Shea Whigam: cinephiles, they love cinema and that's

809

00:30:59,269 --> 00:31:00,412

Shea Whigam: been a great experience for me.

810

00:31:00,701 --> 00:31:01,545

Marc Preston: Hey, it's not half bad.

811

00:31:01,585 --> 00:31:03,033

Marc Preston: Going to Europe and you know, running

812

00:31:03,074 --> 00:31:04,963

Marc Preston: around and what I imagine would be like.

813

00:31:05,425 --> 00:31:06,450

Marc Preston: When I was a kid I always wanted to.

814

00:31:06,993 --> 00:31:08,199

Marc Preston: If I said, if I act, I want to be in a

815

00:31:08,239 --> 00:31:09,643

Marc Preston: James Bond movie because it seems like to

816

00:31:09,663 --> 00:31:11,689

Marc Preston: get to go to fun locations and do cool

817

00:31:11,769 --> 00:31:12,151

Marc Preston: things.

818

00:31:12,311 --> 00:31:15,456

Marc Preston: That does your, does your family come along

819

00:31:15,497 --> 00:31:17,332

Marc Preston: with you, or is it just kind of your, your

820

00:31:17,372 --> 00:31:18,320

Marc Preston: solo, knocking out the gig?

821

00:31:20,886 --> 00:31:23,091

Shea Whigam: You know, man, usually I'm, I'm, pretty,

822

00:31:23,733 --> 00:31:26,339

Shea Whigam: pretty much I'm, I'm, I'm in deep with what

823

00:31:26,379 --> 00:31:27,882

Shea Whigam: I'm doing, to character wise.

824

00:31:28,644 --> 00:31:32,752

Shea Whigam: But and they didn't on, on, on, on mission

825

00:31:32,792 --> 00:31:35,751

Shea Whigam: because of the pandemic, that that that

826

00:31:35,771 --> 00:31:37,886

Shea Whigam: changed a lot, that changed a lot of things.

827

00:31:39,260 --> 00:31:40,885

Shea Whigam: But you know, when I go over there to do

828

00:31:41,005 --> 00:31:42,870

Shea Whigam: eight, I may, I may, have my daughter

829

00:31:42,891 --> 00:31:44,444

Shea Whigam: Georgia and my son Marlon.

830

00:31:44,624 --> 00:31:46,149

Marc Preston: they may come over and you know, see,

831

00:31:46,661 --> 00:31:48,347

Marc Preston: Having a daughter deciding to go into

832

00:31:48,467 --> 00:31:48,749

Marc Preston: acting.

833

00:31:50,382 --> 00:31:51,879

Marc Preston: You've seen all the cautionary tales.

834

00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,441

Marc Preston: Was there?

835

00:31:52,521 --> 00:31:54,906

Marc Preston: What was a piece of advice you gave her to

836

00:31:55,607 --> 00:31:57,230

Marc Preston: hopefully get her onto a right track?

837

00:31:58,693 --> 00:31:59,234

Shea Whigam: Do the work.

838

00:32:00,220 --> 00:32:00,802

Shea Whigam: Do the work.

839

00:32:01,303 --> 00:32:04,350

Shea Whigam: You know, and you know, acting has an

840

00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:05,673

Shea Whigam: amazing litmus test.

841

00:32:05,753 --> 00:32:09,747

Shea Whigam: I shall that if, if you really want to do

842

00:32:09,848 --> 00:32:11,091

Shea Whigam: it, you'll.

843

00:32:11,251 --> 00:32:14,399

Shea Whigam: You'll know, because the down times are are

844

00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,713

Shea Whigam: you wouldn't work, you wouldn't wish them

845

00:32:16,733 --> 00:32:17,136

Shea Whigam: on your worst enemy.

846

00:32:17,681 --> 00:32:18,917

Shea Whigam: They're, they're that difficult.

847

00:32:20,484 --> 00:32:22,391

Shea Whigam: But if you can survive, that that's where

848

00:32:22,431 --> 00:32:24,438

Shea Whigam: your stories are told, during the difficult

849

00:32:24,458 --> 00:32:24,598

Shea Whigam: periods.

850

00:32:24,619 --> 00:32:25,060

Shea Whigam: You know what I mean.

851

00:32:25,060 --> 00:32:27,261

Shea Whigam: The old adage oh it's who you know.

852

00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,302

Shea Whigam: That's not true.

853

00:32:28,765 --> 00:32:29,289

Shea Whigam: You can't.

854

00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:30,820

Shea Whigam: You can't just give somebody a gig.

855

00:32:31,105 --> 00:32:31,899

Shea Whigam: Nobody's going to do that.

856

00:32:33,144 --> 00:32:36,034

Shea Whigam: I can't go to Martin Scorsese and say give

857

00:32:36,094 --> 00:32:37,258

Shea Whigam: my daughter a gig, you can't do it.

858

00:32:37,278 --> 00:32:37,700

Shea Whigam: You know what I mean.

859

00:32:39,125 --> 00:32:39,326

Shea Whigam: You.

860

00:32:39,426 --> 00:32:42,699

Shea Whigam: You have to hone your craft and and and

861

00:32:42,719 --> 00:32:43,040

Shea Whigam: love what you do.

862

00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,752

Shea Whigam: I I think, otherwise you won't stay in the

863

00:32:45,793 --> 00:32:46,054

Shea Whigam: business.

864

00:32:46,235 --> 00:32:46,918

Shea Whigam: You just won't do it.

865

00:32:48,109 --> 00:32:48,919

Shea Whigam: It's too difficult, you know.

866

00:32:50,547 --> 00:32:52,235

Marc Preston: The people that I know that have succeeded.

867

00:32:52,255 --> 00:32:53,360

Marc Preston: I think that I think earning a living doing

868

00:32:54,886 --> 00:32:57,636

Marc Preston: it and doing well all seem to really enjoy

869

00:32:57,656 --> 00:32:58,660

Marc Preston: it and cannot imagine doing anything else.

870

00:32:59,647 --> 00:33:00,392

Marc Preston: It's just, it's just.

871

00:33:00,412 --> 00:33:01,419

Marc Preston: There's no way they would be doing anything

872

00:33:01,459 --> 00:33:01,540

Marc Preston: else.

873

00:33:03,448 --> 00:33:04,733

Marc Preston: Um, is there anything that's on the?

874

00:33:04,753 --> 00:33:06,299

Marc Preston: Uh, I don't call it a bucket list, but

875

00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:06,500

Marc Preston: something.

876

00:33:08,106 --> 00:33:10,554

Marc Preston: Be it director, director or directors, you

877

00:33:10,575 --> 00:33:11,939

Marc Preston: want to work with any actors, any type of

878

00:33:11,959 --> 00:33:15,993

Marc Preston: project that you hope come down the pike

879

00:33:16,033 --> 00:33:17,719

Marc Preston: sometime soon or sometime within your

880

00:33:17,739 --> 00:33:17,860

Marc Preston: career.

881

00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,017

Shea Whigam: Yeah, you know who I would love to work

882

00:33:21,294 --> 00:33:23,345

Shea Whigam: with is James Mangold.

883

00:33:25,094 --> 00:33:28,029

Shea Whigam: I love Mangold's work every time out, and

884

00:33:28,069 --> 00:33:29,798

Shea Whigam: that's from Copland all the way to Ford

885

00:33:29,818 --> 00:33:30,100

Shea Whigam: versus Ferrari.

886

00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:32,979

Shea Whigam: I love and I'm very I'm looking forward.

887

00:33:34,808 --> 00:33:36,555

Shea Whigam: Boyd Holbrook is a friend of mine and he's

888

00:33:36,616 --> 00:33:38,950

Shea Whigam: doing the new um, indiana Jones, and I love

889

00:33:39,555 --> 00:33:40,180

Shea Whigam: Mangold's work, you know.

890

00:33:40,685 --> 00:33:42,359

Shea Whigam: So, yeah, I'd love to work with him.

891

00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:43,848

Shea Whigam: Um, I'm trying to place your character in.

892

00:33:44,130 --> 00:33:45,417

Marc Preston: Sicario, and I don't know why I'm having a

893

00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,091

Marc Preston: difficult time doing that.

894

00:33:47,172 --> 00:33:47,515

Marc Preston: Oh, that's okay.

895

00:33:49,366 --> 00:33:49,768

Announcer: But were you?

896

00:33:50,210 --> 00:33:51,777

Marc Preston: uh, had, did you have a chance to spend

897

00:33:51,797 --> 00:33:52,480

Marc Preston: time with Josh Brolin, or?

898

00:33:53,206 --> 00:33:54,980

Marc Preston: Uh, I know, I know Josh a little bit.

899

00:33:55,061 --> 00:33:56,008

Shea Whigam: I know Benicio Del Toro.

900

00:33:57,782 --> 00:33:58,286

Shea Whigam: He's a.

901

00:33:58,488 --> 00:34:00,000

Shea Whigam: He's a dear friend of mine.

902

00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,924

Shea Whigam: I know I love Josh, uh, my, yeah, um, you

903

00:34:05,005 --> 00:34:05,105

Shea Whigam: know.

904

00:34:05,125 --> 00:34:07,195

Shea Whigam: Again, that's just a world that I wanted to

905

00:34:07,215 --> 00:34:07,497

Shea Whigam: explore.

906

00:34:07,537 --> 00:34:09,504

Shea Whigam: When they had a world that I wanted to

907

00:34:09,564 --> 00:34:11,089

Shea Whigam: explore, when they asked me to come in and

908

00:34:11,129 --> 00:34:13,667

Shea Whigam: do that, I, I, uh, I jumped at the chance.

909

00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,072

Shea Whigam: I had done, um, uh, I had done, uh, what

910

00:34:19,112 --> 00:34:20,013

Shea Whigam: did I do with Benicio?

911

00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,444

Shea Whigam: I'd done something else with Benicio and I

912

00:34:21,564 --> 00:34:24,272

Shea Whigam: knew him through the years and I I think

913

00:34:24,340 --> 00:34:27,452

Shea Whigam: he's one of our best right there with you

914

00:34:27,492 --> 00:34:29,460

Shea Whigam: know all the names that I named Christian

915

00:34:29,721 --> 00:34:34,171

Shea Whigam: and um, bale, and and then Sam Rockwell and

916

00:34:34,191 --> 00:34:34,733

Shea Whigam: all those guys.

917

00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:36,204

Shea Whigam: So I think you know what he, what he's

918

00:34:36,244 --> 00:34:37,969

Shea Whigam: doing, is incredible.

919

00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:41,508

Marc Preston: So you live in LA, uh, proper, or are you

920

00:34:41,548 --> 00:34:42,791

Marc Preston: split your time going to live in anywhere

921

00:34:42,851 --> 00:34:43,401

Marc Preston: else, or?

922

00:34:43,923 --> 00:34:44,827

Shea Whigam: no, I live here now.

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Shea Whigam: I live here.

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Shea Whigam: Um, you know, try to get to New York as

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Shea Whigam: much as I'm going to go, Like I said, next

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Shea Whigam: week to see Rockwell's play in this B

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Shea Whigam: Macbeth, uh, Daniel Craig and Macbeth, and

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Shea Whigam: uh, one of the things I do, uh, boy, wrap

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Shea Whigam: up with everybody.

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Marc Preston: I got seven questions I like to ask.

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Marc Preston: It's just pure fun, just a little bit of

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Marc Preston: get to know you.

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Marc Preston: Uh, first question out of the gate Is what

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Marc Preston: is your favorite comfort food?

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Marc Preston: That thing that uh kind of brings you back.

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Marc Preston: It may not be the healthiest thing, but

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Marc Preston: something to do you just love uh, I would

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Marc Preston: say uh, a great spaghetti bolognese is my

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Marc Preston: favorite favorite meal.

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Shea Whigam: If I'm.

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Shea Whigam: If I got a death row death row meal, I'm

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Shea Whigam: going spaghetti, but he's in a napicab.

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Marc Preston: Next question is if you're going to sit

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Marc Preston: down and have coffee uh, three people

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Marc Preston: living or not.

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Marc Preston: You know who would you like to sit down to

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Marc Preston: talk story with for a few hours?

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Marc Preston: Three people, oh man.

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Shea Whigam: Uh, this, uh, I would say I would take the.

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Shea Whigam: You know what?

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Shea Whigam: I'm going to say this.

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Shea Whigam: I'm going to say, uh, percy Shelley, who

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Shea Whigam: was my favorite poet, um, I would say, uh,

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Shea Whigam: I would say Brando, and I would like to sit

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Shea Whigam: with.

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Shea Whigam: Um, I'd like to sit with Merrill Streep,

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Shea Whigam: I'd love to sit with her.

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Shea Whigam: Actually, let me change that maybe to

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Shea Whigam: Cassel, because when she was dating Cassel,

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Shea Whigam: that's what I spoke to the narrow quite a

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Shea Whigam: bit about on Silver Lines playbook, you

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Shea Whigam: know.

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Shea Whigam: But anyway, sorry, I digress.

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Marc Preston: No, no, no, no.

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Marc Preston: I love it.

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Marc Preston: I love it.

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Marc Preston: Now.

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Marc Preston: Next question is when you were a kid, who

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Marc Preston: is your celebrity crush when you were a

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Marc Preston: young man?

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Shea Whigam: Oh, I would say Very false it in her one

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Shea Whigam: piece.

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Marc Preston: I had a poster of her in my Posters come up

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Marc Preston: a few times in this show.

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Marc Preston: Now next question if you okay, one year on

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Marc Preston: an exotic island, it's actually a nice

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Marc Preston: getaway.

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Marc Preston: You just don't have streaming or your cell

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Marc Preston: phone or anything.

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Marc Preston: You got one DVD available to you, one album.

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Marc Preston: What are you bringing with you to the

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Marc Preston: island?

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Shea Whigam: I'm bringing, I'm bringing the book.

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Shea Whigam: I am bringing Maybe I'll bring a couple of

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Shea Whigam: Don Winslow books with me.

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Shea Whigam: The force and I'm bringing, I'm bringing

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Shea Whigam: the Vana Nirvana's early work.

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Shea Whigam: You know, very good, very good, bring me

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Shea Whigam: bring me back to college right there.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, now next question If you have a, from

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Marc Preston: time you wake up, time you go to sleep,

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Marc Preston: perfect day.

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Announcer: What are the?

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Marc Preston: component parts.

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Marc Preston: I'd be perfect, well executed day for you.

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Shea Whigam: Oh, I'm starting with a.

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Shea Whigam: I'm starting with a beautiful cup of coffee,

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Shea Whigam: taking the kids to school Because the

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Shea Whigam: stress doesn't kicked in yet.

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Shea Whigam: I'm going over to the guy that I work

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Shea Whigam: Everything with, a guy named Tom Draper,

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Shea Whigam: who I put everything, we break everything

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Shea Whigam: open.

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Shea Whigam: We call it the lab.

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Shea Whigam: We go over there and break all of stuff and

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Shea Whigam: then you know I'm Maybe the wife's cooking

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Shea Whigam: and I got a nice big nap, a cab, to end the

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Shea Whigam: day.

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Marc Preston: You know I need you to whole foods and pick

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Marc Preston: one up tonight.

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Marc Preston: Now you got me you got me thirsty.

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Marc Preston: Now last couple questions, real quick.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, if you were not doing this, what

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Marc Preston: would you derive joy from doing?

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Marc Preston: Career wise.

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Shea Whigam: You know, I probably would just be, I'd

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Shea Whigam: probably be in a small town, you know,

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Shea Whigam: maybe pumping gas somewhere, just something

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Shea Whigam: simple, so I could meet, you know, be, talk

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Shea Whigam: to people and just have stories.

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Shea Whigam: I think that's a lost our field.

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Marc Preston: Kind of kind of its own version of living

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Marc Preston: in the moment you know they're in Texas

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Marc Preston: somewhere.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, dallas.

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Marc Preston: Now I do have family long view, though, and

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Marc Preston: I'm not being a Tyler.

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Marc Preston: You probably wanted a bodacious barbecue

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Marc Preston: once or twice out that way.

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Marc Preston: The last question if you could jump into a

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Marc Preston: DeLorean cruise back, you're 16 years old.

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Marc Preston: You got a piece of advice You're gonna give

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Marc Preston: your 16 year old self, either to kind of

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Marc Preston: get you on a Little bit better track or

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Marc Preston: bring a little bit more joy to your life,

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Marc Preston: or whatever.

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Marc Preston: Have you?

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Marc Preston: What would that piece of advice be?

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Shea Whigam: Don't think just because something is

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Shea Whigam: difficult and arduous, that it's not gonna

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Shea Whigam: be fun.

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Shea Whigam: You know what I mean, and I Remember Daniel

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Shea Whigam: Day-Lewis.

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Shea Whigam: One of the quotes, one of the many quotes

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Shea Whigam: that I have, is he's there.

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Shea Whigam: Someone said do you have?

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Shea Whigam: You don't have any fun.

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Shea Whigam: You don't seem like he goes, never mistake,

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Shea Whigam: he goes.

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Shea Whigam: Just because it appears to be difficult

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Shea Whigam: doesn't mean I'm not having fun On the

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Shea Whigam: floor in the set.

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Shea Whigam: You know what I mean in characters.

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Shea Whigam: So I, I that's what I would say.

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Shea Whigam: I think anything worth is gonna be, it's

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Shea Whigam: gonna be tough, it's gonna be, you know.

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Shea Whigam: So I yeah.

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Marc Preston: Well, thank you very much, best of luck to

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Marc Preston: you, and hopefully I'll have a chance to

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Marc Preston: catch up down the line, and I certainly

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Marc Preston: appreciate your time, my friend.

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Shea Whigam: Listen.

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Shea Whigam: Thank you for doing this.

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Marc Preston: All right, there you go, Shea Whigham.

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Marc Preston: What a talented guy.

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Marc Preston: Very interesting.

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Marc Preston: I mean, as I said at the beginning, and as

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Marc Preston: I told him, everything he shows up in he

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Marc Preston: just knocks it out of the park.

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Marc Preston: Definitely worth checking out gas lit,

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Marc Preston: where he plays G Gordon Liddy.

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Marc Preston: This past weekend I binge the entire mini

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Marc Preston: series, really enjoyed it, and you can as

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Marc Preston: well just pop over to stars and Check out

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Marc Preston: gas lit again.

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Marc Preston: Thanks to Shea for being on the program and

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Marc Preston: thanks to you For being here.

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Marc Preston: showing up for each episode.

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Marc Preston: Great shows to come.

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Marc Preston: You have a great rest of your day.

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Marc Preston: Whatever you got plan, be safe, have a good

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Marc Preston: one and I will see you right here next time

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Marc Preston: for another episode of story and craft.

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Announcer: That's it for this episode of story and

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Announcer: craft.

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Announcer: Join Marc next week for more conversation

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Announcer: right here on story and craft.

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Announcer: Executive producer is Marc Preston.

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