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Aug. 10, 2022

Tommy Chong | Livin' By Example, Man

Tommy Chong | Livin' By Example, Man

On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with comedian, musician, actor, writer, director, entrepreneur and cannabis advocate, Tommy Chong.  It’s a great chat where we touch on his career on stage and screen, his comedy partnership with Cheech Marin and the ups and downs of being a cannabis advocate.  It’s an insightful look into how Tommy crafted a career as a backing man, but has always tried to lead by example.  We also take a few detours to chat about George Carlin, Tommy’s philosophies on American culture and even a chance encounter with John Lennon.  It’s a cool tour into the mind of the legend and cultural icon that is Tommy Chong.

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

0:03:06 - Sushi Chef's Biker Fanbase

0:07:27 - Government Entrapment in Bomb Manufacturing

0:10:56 - From Bodybuilding to Comedy

0:13:39 - The Role of a Backup Musician

0:16:41 - From Nightclubs to Comedy

0:20:00 - Meeting Teech and Discovering Comedy Talent

0:29:17 - Comedy and Cultural Sensitivity

0:39:41 - Comedian Influence on Each Other

0:47:10 - Stand-Up Comedy and Rodney King Reference

0:53:36 - Cheech and Chong's Comedy and Legacy

0:55:36 - Cheech and Chong Documentary and Movie

1:00:15 - Comedy Style and Jerry Lewis's Influence

1:09:39 - Promoting Health and CBD Use

1:13:22 - Seven Questions

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Transcript
Tommy Chong:

The fiddle player that I worked with.


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Tommy Chong: He taught me the basics of entertaining



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Tommy Chong: people and he said first of all, you give



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Tommy Chong: the people what they want, you know.



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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.



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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.



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Marc Preston: Hey, how are you?



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Marc Preston: Welcome back.



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Marc Preston: Another episode of Story and Craft.



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Marc Preston: Glad to have you here today.



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Marc Preston: I'm Marc Preston.



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Marc Preston: If this is your first episode, I want to



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Marc Preston: thank you for stopping by.



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Marc Preston: Really cool for you to check out the show.



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Marc Preston: Now, if you've been here before, welcome



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Marc Preston: back.



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Marc Preston: Love the fact you're here, especially today.



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Marc Preston: A really cool episode, a legend, a guy you



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Marc Preston: know to use the phrase, someone who needs



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Marc Preston: no introduction.



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Marc Preston: Tommy Chong is that guy.



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Marc Preston: Everybody knows Tommy Chong.



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Marc Preston: Just in case you're not as familiar with



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Marc Preston: Tommy Chong, he's a comedian, a musician,



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Marc Preston: an actor, a writer, a director, an



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Marc Preston: entrepreneur.



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Marc Preston: He's a cannabis advocate.



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Marc Preston: I mean, if you know Tommy, you know he is.



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Marc Preston: You know Tommy's just a really interesting



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Marc Preston: guy, a lot of fun to talk to and I'm really



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Marc Preston: jazzed that I get to share this with you.



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Marc Preston: Hey, by the way, don't forget



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Marc Preston: Have you been there?



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Marc Preston: Great, thank you.



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Marc Preston: Oh, you haven't.



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Marc Preston: Why not?



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Marc Preston: You got to go by.



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Marc Preston: Okay, all right, so let's get after it.



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Marc Preston: It is time for a legend.



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Marc Preston: It is Tommy Chong Day right now on



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Marc Preston: StoryandCraft.



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Marc Preston: Thanks so much for taking time out.



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Marc Preston: It means a lot to me.



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Marc Preston: It's such a pleasure to sit down with you



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Marc Preston: and talk to you for a few minutes here, and



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Marc Preston: so many things to cover I don't even know



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Marc Preston: where to start, really.



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Marc Preston: But first of all, did you have a nice



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Marc Preston: breakfast?



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Marc Preston: Did you get the day started nicely.



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Tommy Chong: How's everything going?



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Tommy Chong: You know, my breakfast is the most



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Tommy Chong: important meal of my life, Of my day, and



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Tommy Chong: this morning was no exception.



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Tommy Chong: I have a little problem with gout and



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Tommy Chong: whenever I get a little taste of God I feel



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Tommy Chong: that in my toes.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, I think it's a age, you know, and



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Tommy Chong: it's excess of protein to this what I've



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Tommy Chong: been told.



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Tommy Chong: And so this morning I found I go to Gelsons



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Tommy Chong: near my house and I just started.



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Tommy Chong: It's a Marcet where Cheech and I share,



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Tommy Chong: Because he lives in the highlands, and they



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Tommy Chong: had one of the nicest display of sushi I've



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Tommy Chong: ever seen and I'm trying to stay off of



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Tommy Chong: sushi.



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Tommy Chong: I think that's why I got goat, because I



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Tommy Chong: was such a sushi addict.



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Tommy Chong: Anyway, they had some.



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Tommy Chong: They had some.



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Tommy Chong: My son's a sushi chef, Paris, Really.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, I know that.



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Tommy Chong: Well, he's not practicing right now.



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Tommy Chong: Actually, he learned how to do it because



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Tommy Chong: he was working on my, my brother-in-law's



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Tommy Chong: nightclub and they had a sushi bar there



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Tommy Chong: and my son could have learned how to become



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Tommy Chong: a bartender or a sushi chef, and so he



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Tommy Chong: picked the sushi chef, which is very smart.



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Tommy Chong: And anyway, when he was cooking, when he



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Tommy Chong: was making sushi in the nightclub, the



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Tommy Chong: nightclub catered to a lot of Hell's Angels,



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Tommy Chong: the bikers, and my son would make this tuna



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Tommy Chong: dish with spicy, spicy tuna dish, and these



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Tommy Chong: guys, they loved it so much they couldn't



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Tommy Chong: get enough of it.



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Tommy Chong: Well, it takes time to do sushi and and if



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Tommy Chong: he's, if he wasn't working fast enough, the



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Tommy Chong: drunk bikers would throw things at him.



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Marc Preston: Well, how long ago was this?



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Marc Preston: Was this a?



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Tommy Chong: This was years ago and the this one he was



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Tommy Chong: like just coming out of school, you know,



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Tommy Chong: looking for something to do with his life,



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Tommy Chong: but now he's he's.



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Tommy Chong: He still knows how to cook sushi, but the



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Tommy Chong: bottom line is that he made this beautiful



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Tommy Chong: dish that, like I said, the bikers would



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Tommy Chong: riot if he didn't get it too fast enough,



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Tommy Chong: and and Gelsen's happened to serve it and I



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Tommy Chong: so I bought some and that's what I have for



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Tommy Chong: breakfast, and so what I'm, what I'm



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Tommy Chong: looking at now, is just waiting to see if



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Tommy Chong: my toe is going to react, and so far it has.



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Marc Preston: You know, you know what?



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Marc Preston: I also heard that sometimes, and I don't



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Marc Preston: know and I'm no doctor, but I heard that if



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Marc Preston: you ever do this, you know, like some



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Marc Preston: people do, the intermittent fasting, like



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Marc Preston: if you don't eat, like for a day or



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Marc Preston: something that can kind of trigger it also,



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Marc Preston: or something I don't know?



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Tommy Chong: Oh, I believe that.



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Tommy Chong: I believe that, yeah, yeah, yeah.



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Tommy Chong: Well, you know what you're doing is your



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Tommy Chong: body gets used to certain things and and it



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Tommy Chong: gets used to rejecting certain things,



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Tommy Chong: especially as you get older.



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Marc Preston: heard that like really wealthy people that



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Marc Preston: but that's actually like some kind of uric



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Marc Preston: acid or something, I don't even, or some



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Marc Preston: kind of acid.



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Tommy Chong: That's what it is, Uric acid.



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Tommy Chong: You nailed it, yeah, but I was told.



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Tommy Chong: In fact I was in Japan and I was feasting



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Tommy Chong: on.



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Tommy Chong: In fact, we were staying at a resort and it



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Tommy Chong: specialized in seafood, you know, shellfish,



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Tommy Chong: and that's when I got probably one of the



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Tommy Chong: worst cases of goat in the history of goat.



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Tommy Chong: It was so bad I had to go to the emergency



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Tommy Chong: room and the doctor looked at it and they



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Tommy Chong: just put a needle right into it, right,



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Tommy Chong: right, right, right, directly into it.



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Tommy Chong: And I was glad to get that needle because



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Tommy Chong: it cured it, it cleaned it up.



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Tommy Chong: I don't know what they put in it, but yeah,



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Tommy Chong: I know I've been dealing with goat.



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Tommy Chong: That was, that was years ago, though.



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Tommy Chong: That was back in 07, actually 07.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, you know where I found out I had goat.



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Tommy Chong: Where was that?



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Tommy Chong: In prison.



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Tommy Chong: I was in prison.



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Tommy Chong: I've been there a couple of days and I'm



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Tommy Chong: walking across the field now, Limpin, I



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Tommy Chong: thought I dropped a weight on my foot you



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Tommy Chong: know weightlifting, and that's what it felt



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Tommy Chong: like.



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Tommy Chong: But then I thought I haven't weight lifted



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Tommy Chong: or anything, you know.



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Tommy Chong: And so I so, on my way to my cell or my



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Tommy Chong: cubicle we weren't in cells I had three



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Tommy Chong: doctors that were also doing time in jail.



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Tommy Chong: When I was in there, there was about seven



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Tommy Chong: doctors legitimate MDs, you know doing time



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Tommy Chong: for opioid.



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Marc Preston: Oh, prescribing huh.



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Tommy Chong: Anyway, three of them told me I had goat



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Tommy Chong: before I got to my bunk.



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Tommy Chong: Oh you got goat, you got goat.



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Marc Preston: And I did hear an interview Now when we



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Marc Preston: were talking about you being which I think



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Marc Preston: is just such a travesty when you think



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Marc Preston: about it, that you weren't.



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Marc Preston: It was for paraphernalia, it wasn't even



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Marc Preston: for any, it was just glass basically.



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Tommy Chong: No, it was for being Chinese.



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Tommy Chong: Actually, that's my assessment.



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Tommy Chong: No, bush was looking for an excuse for the



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Tommy Chong: you know, to get the press off disaster in



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Tommy Chong: the Iraqi war that he started, and so they



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Tommy Chong: were going after the hippies, like Nixon



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Tommy Chong: did back in the Vietnam days, and there was



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Tommy Chong: nothing going on.



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Tommy Chong: And so they come up with this bogus claim



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Tommy Chong: that the bomb business was funneling



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Tommy Chong: billions of dollars into IKDA, billions,



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Tommy Chong: billions of dollars into IKDA.



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Marc Preston: profit margin on that.



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Marc Preston: It's not you know you're going to do.



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Marc Preston: There's no way.



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Tommy Chong: They went to great lengths.



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Tommy Chong: You know what.



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Tommy Chong: our company.



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Tommy Chong: out of nowhere and he started showing my



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Tommy Chong: son you know how to run the business more



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Tommy Chong: effectively.



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Tommy Chong: You know, this guy really knew what he was



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Tommy Chong: doing and then of us did I never knew, my



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Tommy Chong: son never knew.



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Tommy Chong: You know, there was like the reason we got



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Tommy Chong: in the bomb business is that my wife and I



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Tommy Chong: were on the road doing comedy and people



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Tommy Chong: get them signed.



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Tommy Chong: And so my wife says, well, why don't we



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Tommy Chong: start manufacturing our own bombs, you know?



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Tommy Chong: And so we started the Chongbong company.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, no, you wrote, you also directed a



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, see, the way I've always operated is



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Marc Preston: Well, that's how you know you're really in



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Marc Preston: But how did you meet?



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Tommy Chong: You know the band.



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Tommy Chong: No, this is in Vancouver, Canada.



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Tommy Chong: Well, so so we're in Vancouver.



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Tommy Chong: The club was so successful.



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Tommy Chong: The titty bar you know, the other after



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Tommy Chong: And then I realized that I could turn this



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Tommy Chong: which I did using the girls who were



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Tommy Chong: But I needed another partner.



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Tommy Chong: So I talked to Dormian his name was Dave



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Tommy Chong: I was just gonna work the lights.



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Tommy Chong: And then Dave said well, I'll do it if you



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Tommy Chong: And so he called my bluff and I said okay.



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Tommy Chong: then it was, you know, long hairs were like,



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Tommy Chong: So we had a straight man named Rick Lenz, a



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Tommy Chong: real actor, because once I started the



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Tommy Chong: improv club it attracted actors and so I



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Tommy Chong: all excited about this club that I had.



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Tommy Chong: And then so I started to have an actor sing



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Tommy Chong: out and but the straight guy, rick.



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Tommy Chong: We were so popular that we got a front page



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Tommy Chong: picture of Rick with the strippers on



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Tommy Chong: either side of him, with the other titties



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Tommy Chong: in the Rick's ear, and so Rick's wife.



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Tommy Chong: We never saw Rick.



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Tommy Chong: After that picture Rick disappeared, his



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Tommy Chong: He told his wife that he was doing comedy.



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Tommy Chong: I mean theater, you know like what do you



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Tommy Chong: call it?



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Tommy Chong: You know community theater.



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Tommy Chong: And so I needed a straight guy.



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Tommy Chong: And so this one customer, a Russian kid,



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00:20:03,045 --> 00:20:05,531


Tommy Chong: that he said, I know the perfect guy for



448


00:20:05,551 --> 00:20:05,872


Tommy Chong: your act.



449


00:20:08,125 --> 00:20:10,233


Tommy Chong: And I said he said come on out and meet him.



450


00:20:10,965 --> 00:20:12,973


Tommy Chong: And so I went out and I met Teech.



451


00:20:13,265 --> 00:20:16,105


Tommy Chong: He was Richard Merritt, right, right, and



452


00:20:16,166 --> 00:20:19,335


Tommy Chong: Richard was up in Vancouver, canada,



453


00:20:19,485 --> 00:20:20,510


Tommy Chong: dodging the draft.



454


00:20:21,586 --> 00:20:24,634


Tommy Chong: He was trying not to go to get killed in



455


00:20:24,654 --> 00:20:25,195


Tommy Chong: Vietnam.



456


00:20:26,325 --> 00:20:27,328


Tommy Chong: And so we did.



457


00:20:27,469 --> 00:20:30,408


Tommy Chong: None of us knew the strippers or any of the



458


00:20:30,809 --> 00:20:33,570


Tommy Chong: people in the club knew that Teech really



459


00:20:33,650 --> 00:20:36,552


Tommy Chong: was Mexican Because he had been such a good



460


00:20:36,672 --> 00:20:38,691


Tommy Chong: actor, you know, we thought we didn't know



461


00:20:38,732 --> 00:20:39,113


Tommy Chong: what he was.



462


00:20:39,265 --> 00:20:43,614


Tommy Chong: He was brown, something and so and so we



463


00:20:43,654 --> 00:20:44,055


Tommy Chong: didn't know.



464


00:20:44,625 --> 00:20:46,786


Tommy Chong: I didn't really know he was Mexican until



465


00:20:47,167 --> 00:20:48,492


Tommy Chong: we came down to LA.



466


00:20:49,405 --> 00:20:52,114


Tommy Chong: And that's when and I found out, when we



467


00:20:52,745 --> 00:20:55,153


Tommy Chong: the first time we found out that we were



468


00:20:55,173 --> 00:20:55,895


Tommy Chong: funny together.



469


00:20:58,225 --> 00:21:00,886


Tommy Chong: We had a band, we were gonna play music and



470


00:21:00,906 --> 00:21:03,549


Tommy Chong: Teech is a singer, and but we never got



471


00:21:03,589 --> 00:21:06,447


Tommy Chong: around to playing one note, because Teech



472


00:21:06,508 --> 00:21:10,428


Tommy Chong: and I did 45 minutes of comedy and found



473


00:21:10,488 --> 00:21:12,013


Tommy Chong: out that that was it.



474


00:21:12,205 --> 00:21:15,190


Tommy Chong: We were a comedy team, and so that's when I



475


00:21:15,230 --> 00:21:15,973


Tommy Chong: found out his name.



476


00:21:16,305 --> 00:21:18,647


Tommy Chong: His nickname was Teech, because we were



477


00:21:18,687 --> 00:21:20,745


Tommy Chong: trying to find a name for our group and



478


00:21:21,207 --> 00:21:23,113


Tommy Chong: Teech and Chong turned out to be the winner.



479


00:21:24,426 --> 00:21:29,138


Tommy Chong: And then we snuck back into LA and the rest



480


00:21:29,239 --> 00:21:29,660


Tommy Chong: is history.



481


00:21:30,105 --> 00:21:31,571


Marc Preston: Now is that where he's from originally?



482


00:21:31,945 --> 00:21:33,792


Tommy Chong: Yeah, yeah, he was from LA, yeah.



483


00:21:34,645 --> 00:21:35,950


Marc Preston: Yeah, that's one of the things I loved



484


00:21:35,970 --> 00:21:37,628


Marc Preston: about your movies when I was probably too



485


00:21:37,689 --> 00:21:38,692


Marc Preston: young to be watching them.



486


00:21:39,625 --> 00:21:41,591


Marc Preston: Way back when, was you know?



487


00:21:42,674 --> 00:21:44,308


Marc Preston: My view of LA was always the glitz, the



488


00:21:44,349 --> 00:21:48,473


Marc Preston: glam, you know, the watching emergency, you



489


00:21:48,513 --> 00:21:50,799


Marc Preston: know, or chips, you know.



490


00:21:50,865 --> 00:21:52,807


Marc Preston: To me that was LA, it's like, but there was



491


00:21:52,827 --> 00:21:54,426


Marc Preston: this whole Chicano side, there was this



492


00:21:54,446 --> 00:21:57,248


Marc Preston: whole other like I was like, and so I was



493


00:21:57,509 --> 00:21:59,326


Marc Preston: equally enamored with others, this whole,



494


00:21:59,346 --> 00:22:01,427


Marc Preston: like you know, other side, he has a little



495


00:22:01,467 --> 00:22:03,086


Marc Preston: kid with this whole LA thing I started to



496


00:22:03,106 --> 00:22:05,907


Marc Preston: come in and enamored like, but no, what you



497


00:22:05,927 --> 00:22:07,729


Marc Preston: were saying before about how you supported



498


00:22:07,769 --> 00:22:10,832


Marc Preston: somebody, how you I kinda like the back of



499


00:22:10,972 --> 00:22:12,911


Marc Preston: up, I mean that's, there were scenes in



500


00:22:13,052 --> 00:22:14,308


Marc Preston: your movies that I can think of.



501


00:22:14,348 --> 00:22:16,008


Marc Preston: That Chich is, you know, he's got the lines



502


00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:17,926


Marc Preston: and it's kind of focused on him, like, for



503


00:22:18,046 --> 00:22:21,375


Marc Preston: instance, him getting pulled over.



504


00:22:21,885 --> 00:22:23,471


Marc Preston: There's this scene and I don't know what



505


00:22:23,511 --> 00:22:24,848


Marc Preston: movie it's from the policeman's, like I see



506


00:22:24,868 --> 00:22:26,869


Marc Preston: your license and he's like wait, isn't it



507


00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:27,712


Marc Preston: on the back of the car?



508


00:22:27,752 --> 00:22:27,953


Marc Preston: You know.



509


00:22:28,665 --> 00:22:29,388


Tommy Chong: Yeah, isn't it on the bumper.



510


00:22:30,105 --> 00:22:32,547


Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, and then you're, but see,



511


00:22:32,607 --> 00:22:33,209


Marc Preston: you're there.



512


00:22:33,229 --> 00:22:34,948


Marc Preston: It's like, visually you're doing something.



513


00:22:34,989 --> 00:22:35,510


Marc Preston: I think you're.



514


00:22:35,932 --> 00:22:37,228


Marc Preston: You know you're always kind of in the



515


00:22:37,268 --> 00:22:39,868


Marc Preston: background, yeah, Doing something, you know



516


00:22:39,908 --> 00:22:41,307


Marc Preston: you're supporting him, so it's not like



517


00:22:41,328 --> 00:22:42,527


Marc Preston: you're just sitting there letting him.



518


00:22:42,687 --> 00:22:45,638


Marc Preston: You know, there's so much visual comedy



519


00:22:45,698 --> 00:22:48,159


Marc Preston: that I think was just, you know he was the



520


00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,919


Marc Preston: boisterous one, but you know, but he did,



521


00:22:49,939 --> 00:22:51,249


Marc Preston: he had a lot of visual, like you know.



522


00:22:51,290 --> 00:22:53,361


Marc Preston: This one scene sticks out of my mind.



523


00:22:53,381 --> 00:22:53,985


Marc Preston: I don't know what movie it is.



524


00:22:54,249 --> 00:22:56,013


Marc Preston: You're playing guitar in the house and he's



525


00:22:56,033 --> 00:22:56,802


Marc Preston: trying to get into the door.



526


00:22:56,822 --> 00:22:58,323


Marc Preston: Apparently you've got so many monitors



527


00:22:58,344 --> 00:22:59,925


Marc Preston: going he can't get the door open, you know,



528


00:23:00,567 --> 00:23:03,555


Marc Preston: and he's like but yeah, I think grossly



529


00:23:03,615 --> 00:23:06,473


Marc Preston: under underappreciated physical comedians.



530


00:23:06,633 --> 00:23:08,365


Marc Preston: I will say you know, you grew up in Canada.



531


00:23:08,970 --> 00:23:10,824


Marc Preston: Now your folks when they saw the kind of



532


00:23:10,844 --> 00:23:12,038


Marc Preston: mischief you were up to, did they



533


00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:12,545


Marc Preston: understand it?



534


00:23:12,787 --> 00:23:13,391


Marc Preston: Did they like?



535


00:23:14,157 --> 00:23:15,125


Marc Preston: Did they think it was cool?



536


00:23:15,226 --> 00:23:16,385


Marc Preston: They think it was just ridiculous?



537


00:23:16,505 --> 00:23:18,753


Marc Preston: What was your family thinking about your



538


00:23:18,793 --> 00:23:19,114


Marc Preston: endeavor?



539


00:23:19,625 --> 00:23:23,315


Tommy Chong: Well, you know, it was my dad really that



540


00:23:23,415 --> 00:23:30,496


Tommy Chong: encouraged me because you know the party to



541


00:23:30,537 --> 00:23:31,218


Tommy Chong: play guitar.



542


00:23:31,826 --> 00:23:33,831


Tommy Chong: My dad really, you know, he was very



543


00:23:34,412 --> 00:23:37,409


Tommy Chong: traditional Chinese, but he never spoke



544


00:23:37,489 --> 00:23:40,648


Tommy Chong: Chinese around the house, he never taught



545


00:23:40,708 --> 00:23:41,351


Tommy Chong: us anything.



546


00:23:42,365 --> 00:23:46,295


Tommy Chong: We were like his, his white, his Caucasian



547


00:23:46,355 --> 00:23:49,271


Tommy Chong: family, you know, because my mother was a



548


00:23:49,332 --> 00:23:50,134


Tommy Chong: very beautiful.



549


00:23:51,625 --> 00:23:55,455


Tommy Chong: Well, I found out later she was 25% native,



550


00:23:57,167 --> 00:23:59,133


Tommy Chong: but we always thought she was Scotch Irish



551


00:24:00,186 --> 00:24:04,568


Tommy Chong: and my dad was Chinese, of course, and so



552


00:24:04,608 --> 00:24:08,624


Tommy Chong: my dad, he treated us and mom and the



553


00:24:08,645 --> 00:24:14,058


Tommy Chong: family more like his white family, you know,



554


00:24:14,780 --> 00:24:15,281


Tommy Chong: and he would.



555


00:24:17,267 --> 00:24:20,426


Tommy Chong: So when I started, when we did, well, first



556


00:24:20,446 --> 00:24:22,725


Tommy Chong: of all when we did the night clubs, you



557


00:24:22,745 --> 00:24:24,933


Tommy Chong: know, my dad and mom, everybody came.



558


00:24:25,265 --> 00:24:30,017


Tommy Chong: My brother actually managed all the clubs,



559


00:24:30,745 --> 00:24:32,432


Tommy Chong: leaving me to go on the road, you know,



560


00:24:33,926 --> 00:24:35,431


Tommy Chong: with the bands and everything else.



561


00:24:36,365 --> 00:24:38,993


Tommy Chong: So my parents, my dad, he was very



562


00:24:39,093 --> 00:24:42,833


Tommy Chong: traditional, he was in the Second World War,



563


00:24:42,893 --> 00:24:46,211


Tommy Chong: he didn't have to go, he was in Canada and



564


00:24:46,411 --> 00:24:49,689


Tommy Chong: they didn't want Chinese in the war but in



565


00:24:49,729 --> 00:24:50,230


Tommy Chong: the army.



566


00:24:50,350 --> 00:24:53,928


Tommy Chong: But he enlisted with his friends and he was



567


00:24:54,108 --> 00:24:58,379


Tommy Chong: born and raised in Vancouver and Ableton



568


00:24:58,419 --> 00:25:00,949


Tommy Chong: too, where he met my mother.



569


00:25:01,391 --> 00:25:03,206


Tommy Chong: But my parents were sort of, you know,



570


00:25:03,307 --> 00:25:05,995


Tommy Chong: tradition, but they went along with me



571


00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:10,656


Tommy Chong: because, you know, one of the kids is an



572


00:25:10,796 --> 00:25:11,418


Tommy Chong: entertainer.



573


00:25:11,805 --> 00:25:13,752


Tommy Chong: You know, the whole world revolves around.



574


00:25:14,265 --> 00:25:15,389


Tommy Chong: I remember my sister.



575


00:25:15,570 --> 00:25:19,268


Tommy Chong: She was a tap dancer and she went on the



576


00:25:19,328 --> 00:25:21,865


Tommy Chong: road with a tap dancing crew one time and



577


00:25:21,906 --> 00:25:23,993


Tommy Chong: we followed her, or actually we drove her,



578


00:25:25,047 --> 00:25:26,713


Tommy Chong: and that's when I got a taste of the



579


00:25:27,175 --> 00:25:31,710


Tommy Chong: entertainment world, you know.



580


00:25:32,472 --> 00:25:35,066


Tommy Chong: And so, being an entertainer I was, you



581


00:25:35,086 --> 00:25:35,627


Tommy Chong: know I was.



582


00:25:36,109 --> 00:25:37,633


Tommy Chong: I was lopped into a.



583


00:25:38,525 --> 00:25:39,931


Tommy Chong: Let me tell you a story about my uncle.



584


00:25:40,785 --> 00:25:44,275


Tommy Chong: My dad had a brother who I was named after,



585


00:25:44,335 --> 00:25:44,636


Tommy Chong: tommy.



586


00:25:45,205 --> 00:25:47,453


Tommy Chong: My dad and my brother were opposites.



587


00:25:47,645 --> 00:25:52,607


Tommy Chong: My dad was rough and ready to go to war and



588


00:25:53,028 --> 00:25:54,874


Tommy Chong: he was a pool hustler one time.



589


00:25:54,934 --> 00:25:57,050


Tommy Chong: You know, he wasn't tall, he was five foot



590


00:25:57,111 --> 00:26:01,755


Tommy Chong: three, but he ended up being a big, distant



591


00:26:01,975 --> 00:26:02,938


Tommy Chong: truck driver, you know.



592


00:26:03,985 --> 00:26:07,474


Tommy Chong: So he was a macho kind of guy, very macho,



593


00:26:07,574 --> 00:26:08,356


Tommy Chong: very tough too.



594


00:26:09,285 --> 00:26:13,676


Tommy Chong: But my uncle Tommy was an academic.



595


00:26:14,545 --> 00:26:15,769


Tommy Chong: He never got out of school.



596


00:26:15,829 --> 00:26:18,306


Tommy Chong: He stayed in the University of Alberta



597


00:26:18,808 --> 00:26:22,256


Tommy Chong: until he died at the age of 80, something.



598


00:26:23,465 --> 00:26:27,609


Tommy Chong: He was a diving coach, even though he



599


00:26:27,649 --> 00:26:30,987


Tommy Chong: couldn't swim, but he was a gymnast and he



600


00:26:31,007 --> 00:26:34,707


Tommy Chong: was also an intellect, you know he was, and



601


00:26:34,767 --> 00:26:37,654


Tommy Chong: he wasn't really thrilled with my dad or



602


00:26:37,715 --> 00:26:41,933


Tommy Chong: his family until, until I started getting



603


00:26:43,156 --> 00:26:47,875


Tommy Chong: written up in the movie, the movie section,



604


00:26:48,036 --> 00:26:53,350


Tommy Chong: and then, and because I carry his name, all



605


00:26:53,370 --> 00:26:57,621


Tommy Chong: of a sudden I became his favorite nephew,



606


00:26:57,821 --> 00:26:58,102


Tommy Chong: you know.



607


00:26:58,665 --> 00:26:59,951


Marc Preston: So how many kids were in your family?



608


00:27:00,286 --> 00:27:01,731


Marc Preston: How many brothers and sisters did you have?



609


00:27:02,425 --> 00:27:05,569


Tommy Chong: I had a brother and a sister, and my



610


00:27:05,629 --> 00:27:06,593


Tommy Chong: sister's still with us.



611


00:27:07,086 --> 00:27:11,148


Tommy Chong: My brother passed a couple of years ago and,



612


00:27:11,530 --> 00:27:12,974


Tommy Chong: yeah, and we were named after him.



613


00:27:13,245 --> 00:27:14,449


Tommy Chong: My mother was very.



614


00:27:14,890 --> 00:27:17,747


Tommy Chong: She went to Chinese, moved when she met my



615


00:27:17,828 --> 00:27:22,732


Tommy Chong: dad and she just she adopted everything



616


00:27:22,872 --> 00:27:25,418


Tommy Chong: Chinese and she adopted.



617


00:27:25,805 --> 00:27:28,774


Tommy Chong: She had three kids, like my dad's family.



618


00:27:29,765 --> 00:27:33,576


Tommy Chong: There was my dad, stan, and my uncle, tommy,



619


00:27:33,825 --> 00:27:36,673


Tommy Chong: and my aunt Nelly, who I never met.



620


00:27:36,753 --> 00:27:37,475


Tommy Chong: She died before.



621


00:27:38,305 --> 00:27:40,866


Tommy Chong: But my mother had three kids too and she



622


00:27:40,926 --> 00:27:44,635


Tommy Chong: named them Stan, tommy and Nelly and yeah,



623


00:27:45,686 --> 00:27:46,931


Tommy Chong: so about what year?



624


00:27:47,151 --> 00:27:48,126


Marc Preston: what about was it?



625


00:27:48,146 --> 00:27:51,275


Marc Preston: Was it in 1969, 1970-ish, roughly?



626


00:27:51,325 --> 00:27:52,750


Marc Preston: Is that when you came to LA?



627


00:27:53,565 --> 00:27:54,649


Tommy Chong: We came to LA.



628


00:27:54,669 --> 00:27:57,629


Tommy Chong: Yeah, it was actually, you named it right.



629


00:27:57,909 --> 00:28:06,135


Tommy Chong: We did 1969 in Vancouver and 1970, 71 in LA,



630


00:28:06,525 --> 00:28:07,147


Tommy Chong: application in thefluodance to



631


00:28:07,167 --> 00:28:10,780


Tommy Chong: sweetiewater們 BM-Marriageğlithololocee.



632


00:28:13,706 --> 00:28:17,695


Tommy Chong: And 71 was when we put out our first album,



633


00:28:18,136 --> 00:28:18,838


Tommy Chong: our first record.



634


00:28:18,858 --> 00:28:19,860


Tommy Chong: They're not here.



635


00:28:20,722 --> 00:28:22,807


Marc Preston: I think that's one of the things I love



636


00:28:22,928 --> 00:28:24,491


Marc Preston: that you share in your time here, because I



637


00:28:24,512 --> 00:28:26,464


Marc Preston: mean, not, I think there's a generation, my



638


00:28:26,484 --> 00:28:28,389


Marc Preston: kid's generation, hasn't really been



639


00:28:28,449 --> 00:28:31,203


Marc Preston: exposed to the things that you did or the



640


00:28:31,383 --> 00:28:34,690


Marc Preston: era of comedy albums, you know, and back,



641


00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:36,233


Marc Preston: how big of a deal they were back.



642


00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,004


Marc Preston: I was just watching the George Carlin



643


00:28:38,044 --> 00:28:39,147


Marc Preston: documentary that Javelin.



644


00:28:39,188 --> 00:28:41,624


Marc Preston: Tell did and as remembering, it's like man,



645


00:28:41,664 --> 00:28:43,930


Marc Preston: I remember sitting down, I mean, we'll



646


00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:44,672


Marc Preston: saying it now.



647


00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:48,563


Marc Preston: It's, of course, you know Bill Cosby, but



648


00:28:48,583 --> 00:28:50,310


Marc Preston: you know, sitting down listening to these



649


00:28:50,410 --> 00:28:52,619


Marc Preston: albums, that my father had this big old



650


00:28:52,659 --> 00:28:54,605


Marc Preston: collection and I would just be just, I



651


00:28:54,645 --> 00:28:56,089


Marc Preston: wouldn't understand half of what was going



652


00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:58,707


Marc Preston: on, but that was a big thing.



653


00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,344


Marc Preston: And then to transition from doing the



654


00:29:01,385 --> 00:29:06,153


Marc Preston: comedy albums to getting on camera and



655


00:29:06,213 --> 00:29:10,357


Marc Preston: bringing these characters to film how did



656


00:29:10,398 --> 00:29:10,880


Marc Preston: that come to be?



657


00:29:11,141 --> 00:29:12,284


Marc Preston: How did Javelin Tell decide okay, we're



658


00:29:12,303 --> 00:29:14,309


Marc Preston: going to start acting on camera now.



659


00:29:14,750 --> 00:29:15,391


Tommy Chong: That was me.



660


00:29:16,541 --> 00:29:19,508


Tommy Chong: I got really tired of going to Australia



661


00:29:19,769 --> 00:29:24,740


Tommy Chong: every year to work, because every time we'd



662


00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,965


Tommy Chong: go out of the country, you know, to a new



663


00:29:27,005 --> 00:29:29,971


Tommy Chong: country, I would have to write a new show



664


00:29:31,983 --> 00:29:37,617


Tommy Chong: and okay, you know, writing a show, doing



665


00:29:37,657 --> 00:29:38,860


Tommy Chong: an album is one thing.



666


00:29:39,423 --> 00:29:41,915


Tommy Chong: You know that takes a lot of work and time



667


00:29:41,955 --> 00:29:44,426


Tommy Chong: and everything else, but it's fun too.



668


00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,353


Tommy Chong: Live shows they're tough because you have



669


00:29:49,373 --> 00:29:50,837


Tommy Chong: to repeat it every time.



670


00:29:51,158 --> 00:29:55,084


Tommy Chong: You do a comedy album, it's done, you know,



671


00:29:55,445 --> 00:29:58,857


Tommy Chong: you can repeat it, maybe in a show, but for



672


00:29:58,877 --> 00:30:01,103


Tommy Chong: the most time it's done when you do live



673


00:30:01,143 --> 00:30:01,604


Tommy Chong: shows.



674


00:30:02,266 --> 00:30:04,980


Tommy Chong: You got to do a live show every night and



675


00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,290


Tommy Chong: so we'd been to Australia a couple of times



676


00:30:09,321 --> 00:30:13,465


Tommy Chong: and it was work, yeah, but we had, you know,



677


00:30:13,485 --> 00:30:14,830


Tommy Chong: we never had Mexicans there.



678


00:30:15,161 --> 00:30:17,025


Tommy Chong: See, when Cheech and Chong go on the road,



679


00:30:17,726 --> 00:30:18,869


Tommy Chong: unless we're going to, like a



680


00:30:18,929 --> 00:30:22,964


Tommy Chong: Spanish-friendly country, we're not



681


00:30:23,686 --> 00:30:24,227


Tommy Chong: accepted.



682


00:30:24,247 --> 00:30:28,662


Tommy Chong: The way we are seeing LA, you know, like in



683


00:30:28,722 --> 00:30:31,450


Tommy Chong: fact, we were killing them in LA.



684


00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,344


Tommy Chong: We had lineups around the block,



685


00:30:33,545 --> 00:30:35,330


Tommy Chong: celebrities, everybody wanted to see us in



686


00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:35,430


Tommy Chong: LA.



687


00:30:36,422 --> 00:30:39,430


Tommy Chong: We went to New York and we were teaching.



688


00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,345


Tommy Chong: I was very excited, you know, because we



689


00:30:41,385 --> 00:30:45,378


Tommy Chong: have, you know, we're, we're buying, you



690


00:30:45,398 --> 00:30:48,282


Tommy Chong: know, we're all over the place, new York,



691


00:30:48,302 --> 00:30:51,283


Tommy Chong: la doesn't matter, but the audience.



692


00:30:52,185 --> 00:30:55,050


Tommy Chong: If you don't have a Chicano audience, with



693


00:30:55,090 --> 00:30:57,321


Tommy Chong: Cheech and Chong, you're going to have a



694


00:30:57,362 --> 00:31:00,763


Tommy Chong: whole different show, and that's what with



695


00:31:00,944 --> 00:31:01,446


Tommy Chong: Australia.



696


00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:05,291


Tommy Chong: And so New York New York was such a wake up



697


00:31:05,332 --> 00:31:07,519


Tommy Chong: because Cheech and I were basking in the



698


00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,304


Tommy Chong: glory of all the Chicanos, you know.



699


00:31:10,785 --> 00:31:13,671


Tommy Chong: And then you get to New York and New York



700


00:31:13,771 --> 00:31:15,213


Tommy Chong: is deadly.



701


00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,845


Tommy Chong: If you're not funny, if you just show the



702


00:31:18,926 --> 00:31:22,272


Tommy Chong: slightest bit of hesitation in New York,



703


00:31:22,352 --> 00:31:22,973


Tommy Chong: you're dead.



704


00:31:24,703 --> 00:31:26,348


Tommy Chong: People who will kill you there.



705


00:31:27,141 --> 00:31:30,006


Tommy Chong: In fact, when, when Cheech and I you know,



706


00:31:30,046 --> 00:31:32,291


Tommy Chong: when Cheech and I broke up, my wife and I



707


00:31:32,331 --> 00:31:34,983


Tommy Chong: were doing comedy and she was like starting



708


00:31:35,043 --> 00:31:36,989


Tommy Chong: out on her own, doing doing stand up,



709


00:31:37,069 --> 00:31:42,687


Tommy Chong: shelby, and we were in in the Dice Andrew



710


00:31:42,707 --> 00:31:47,635


Tommy Chong: Dice Clay's territory in New Jersey, deadly,



711


00:31:48,442 --> 00:31:51,284


Tommy Chong: shelby went out, shelby went out and there



712


00:31:51,404 --> 00:31:54,241


Tommy Chong: wasn't one laugh, it was.



713


00:31:55,083 --> 00:31:59,683


Tommy Chong: I was horrible, and but that showed you how



714


00:31:59,763 --> 00:32:03,569


Tommy Chong: tough the the my lady is, because after I



715


00:32:03,629 --> 00:32:07,014


Tommy Chong: said, you know it was not one last nothing.



716


00:32:08,101 --> 00:32:09,745


Tommy Chong: You know, usually they're polite enough to



717


00:32:10,307 --> 00:32:12,261


Tommy Chong: to give him applause or something, but it



718


00:32:12,301 --> 00:32:14,728


Tommy Chong: was they just, you know that's, that's the



719


00:32:14,748 --> 00:32:17,757


Tommy Chong: way the Andrew Dice Clay's crowd were, you



720


00:32:17,777 --> 00:32:18,780


Tommy Chong: know, just like you know they're horrible,



721


00:32:20,052 --> 00:32:22,463


Tommy Chong: they're like Trumpish, you know, and so so.



722


00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:23,845


Tommy Chong: So we ended up.



723


00:32:25,028 --> 00:32:26,691


Tommy Chong: So she, she never got one laugh.



724


00:32:26,771 --> 00:32:29,095


Tommy Chong: And she's walking up and in my mind I said



725


00:32:29,155 --> 00:32:31,259


Tommy Chong: well, this'll either make her break her,



726


00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:31,840


Tommy Chong: you know.



727


00:32:32,563 --> 00:32:35,377


Tommy Chong: And so I said to her as I went on stage, I



728


00:32:35,398 --> 00:32:38,327


Tommy Chong: said pretty tough and she said F them.



729


00:32:40,382 --> 00:32:42,731


Marc Preston: She said you know she, she, she.



730


00:32:42,751 --> 00:32:44,037


Marc Preston: You know she's kind of built up that callus



731


00:32:44,057 --> 00:32:44,880


Marc Preston: to be able to handle those folks now.



732


00:32:46,184 --> 00:32:48,390


Marc Preston: But like you know, that's one of the quite



733


00:32:48,410 --> 00:32:50,596


Marc Preston: you mentioned Andrew Dice Clay and you know



734


00:32:50,616 --> 00:32:51,880


Marc Preston: you go back to Sam Kinnison and you go back



735


00:32:53,322 --> 00:32:55,246


Marc Preston: as I was coming up in the 80s watching



736


00:32:55,947 --> 00:32:56,327


Marc Preston: comedy.



737


00:32:56,367 --> 00:32:59,372


Marc Preston: You had Eddie Murphy doing these big almost



738


00:32:59,392 --> 00:33:02,418


Marc Preston: like you know, these big arena shows.



739


00:33:02,478 --> 00:33:02,698


Marc Preston: Yeah.



740


00:33:02,718 --> 00:33:03,640


Marc Preston: You had a lot of folks doing that.



741


00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:05,799


Marc Preston: You don't hear about that nearly as much.



742


00:33:06,542 --> 00:33:09,329


Marc Preston: I mean, it seems like the 80s was that a?



743


00:33:09,409 --> 00:33:13,339


Marc Preston: Was that a real heyday for comics to put on



744


00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:13,780


Marc Preston: just killer big shows?



745


00:33:14,943 --> 00:33:16,426


Marc Preston: And what's the difference between then and



746


00:33:16,507 --> 00:33:17,369


Marc Preston: now in your mind?



747


00:33:19,221 --> 00:33:22,512


Tommy Chong: Well, now it's more sophisticated and it's



748


00:33:22,572 --> 00:33:24,880


Tommy Chong: more segregated.



749


00:33:25,781 --> 00:33:30,165


Tommy Chong: You know, like that, one time Bill Cosby



750


00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:33,608


Tommy Chong: was the opposite of Eddie Murphy, but



751


00:33:33,648 --> 00:33:35,590


Tommy Chong: they're both black, you know.



752


00:33:35,770 --> 00:33:38,293


Tommy Chong: But Cosby was appealed to the, to the



753


00:33:38,353 --> 00:33:41,416


Tommy Chong: whiter blacks, and Eddie Murphy appealed to



754


00:33:41,796 --> 00:33:42,417


Tommy Chong: all blacks.



755


00:33:42,517 --> 00:33:45,246


Tommy Chong: You know, it's almost like the ones that



756


00:33:45,286 --> 00:33:46,669


Tommy Chong: are in prison, the ones that are under



757


00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:47,050


Tommy Chong: prison.



758


00:33:48,641 --> 00:33:52,867


Tommy Chong: It's almost that ghetto or upper class, you



759


00:33:52,907 --> 00:33:53,047


Tommy Chong: know.



760


00:33:53,688 --> 00:33:56,551


Tommy Chong: But now there's.



761


00:33:56,572 --> 00:33:58,614


Tommy Chong: So that, what's that culture?



762


00:34:00,903 --> 00:34:03,209


Tommy Chong: I can never remember the phrase.



763


00:34:04,362 --> 00:34:05,848


Tommy Chong: I hadn't changed my act.



764


00:34:06,442 --> 00:34:08,330


Tommy Chong: Listen, you know I'm, I'm.



765


00:34:08,691 --> 00:34:10,659


Tommy Chong: I never considered, you know, I mean, I was



766


00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:10,880


Tommy Chong: married.



767


00:34:11,322 --> 00:34:12,507


Tommy Chong: My first wife is black.



768


00:34:12,940 --> 00:34:15,840


Tommy Chong: I got two black kids, you know daughters.



769


00:34:16,621 --> 00:34:19,326


Tommy Chong: I never, ever, considered myself anything



770


00:34:19,426 --> 00:34:21,851


Tommy Chong: less than you know a brother.



771


00:34:22,572 --> 00:34:23,754


Tommy Chong: You know, I was there.



772


00:34:24,843 --> 00:34:27,771


Tommy Chong: We did a bit called a blind melon chiming



773


00:34:28,945 --> 00:34:31,578


Tommy Chong: and and it was a takeoff on a blind blue



774


00:34:31,619 --> 00:34:36,147


Tommy Chong: singer and now I got the premise or the



775


00:34:36,287 --> 00:34:40,012


Tommy Chong: idea from the committee was an acting group



776


00:34:40,533 --> 00:34:41,715


Tommy Chong: out of the San Francisco.



777


00:34:43,224 --> 00:34:48,629


Tommy Chong: They did a bit similar, but then I saw the



778


00:34:48,669 --> 00:34:49,572


Tommy Chong: T-Bone Walker.



779


00:34:50,421 --> 00:34:52,627


Tommy Chong: Now, I was a guitar, I am a guitar player,



780


00:34:52,767 --> 00:34:56,222


Tommy Chong: and I saw T-Bone at his height and then I



781


00:34:56,282 --> 00:34:58,807


Tommy Chong: saw him at his lowest part and it was the



782


00:34:58,867 --> 00:35:01,712


Tommy Chong: lowest part that inspired us to do blind



783


00:35:01,752 --> 00:35:02,434


Tommy Chong: melon chiming.



784


00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:05,685


Tommy Chong: Well, I, I'm getting you know, to me it was



785


00:35:05,705 --> 00:35:08,250


Tommy Chong: like it wasn't insulting or any of that



786


00:35:09,712 --> 00:35:14,284


Tommy Chong: stuff, but I was ready to do a show in Reno,



787


00:35:14,985 --> 00:35:17,949


Tommy Chong: teach that I am in Shelby and Herbie



788


00:35:17,989 --> 00:35:21,473


Tommy Chong: Hancock, the great Herbie Hancock, the jazz



789


00:35:21,493 --> 00:35:26,741


Tommy Chong: guy, he, he was a big fan and I knew that



790


00:35:26,821 --> 00:35:32,308


Tommy Chong: because he one time he had us appear on his



791


00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:37,735


Tommy Chong: in Switzerland at the jazz concert.



792


00:35:39,723 --> 00:35:41,450


Tommy Chong: Yeah, they had a jazz show there in



793


00:35:41,490 --> 00:35:43,860


Tommy Chong: Switzerland and teach and I were invited.



794


00:35:44,562 --> 00:35:48,069


Tommy Chong: We came and worked a little bit, you know,



795


00:35:48,290 --> 00:35:49,112


Tommy Chong: mc a little bit.



796


00:35:50,342 --> 00:35:51,386


Tommy Chong: Herbie's a big fan.



797


00:35:53,523 --> 00:35:55,887


Tommy Chong: So Herbie, we're talking because he's going



798


00:35:55,907 --> 00:35:59,092


Tommy Chong: to appear in Reno after teach and I,



799


00:35:59,272 --> 00:36:04,765


Tommy Chong: charlie, and then Herbie, he said, he said,



800


00:36:04,786 --> 00:36:09,372


Tommy Chong: you know, we kind of like a serious.



801


00:36:10,253 --> 00:36:11,615


Tommy Chong: It was a serious discussion.



802


00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:15,348


Tommy Chong: He was trying to get to me about my blind



803


00:36:15,388 --> 00:36:18,801


Tommy Chong: melon chiming bit and the way he said it



804


00:36:18,841 --> 00:36:19,061


Tommy Chong: was.



805


00:36:19,601 --> 00:36:23,845


Tommy Chong: Hey, man, you know, when you do the blind



806


00:36:23,865 --> 00:36:24,586


Tommy Chong: melon thing.



807


00:36:24,966 --> 00:36:27,388


Tommy Chong: He says you start off playing.



808


00:36:27,548 --> 00:36:32,973


Tommy Chong: You know you got that really good jazz, you



809


00:36:32,993 --> 00:36:35,855


Tommy Chong: know like good music, you know, and then



810


00:36:35,895 --> 00:36:37,176


Tommy Chong: you get into that other shit.



811


00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:40,507


Marc Preston: He's like well, you mean the thing I do for



812


00:36:40,527 --> 00:36:40,828


Marc Preston: a living.



813


00:36:41,008 --> 00:36:44,445


Tommy Chong: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and then he said,



814


00:36:44,465 --> 00:36:44,868


Tommy Chong: well, he said that.



815


00:36:46,837 --> 00:36:47,457


Tommy Chong: I looked at him.



816


00:36:48,579 --> 00:36:51,723


Tommy Chong: I respect jazz guys more than you know.



817


00:36:51,783 --> 00:36:57,811


Tommy Chong: To me they're the real spiritual leaders of



818


00:36:57,831 --> 00:36:58,292


Tommy Chong: the country.



819


00:36:58,332 --> 00:37:03,265


Tommy Chong: Yeah, indeed, and so it really struck home.



820


00:37:04,658 --> 00:37:07,167


Tommy Chong: And so, even though I did Blame Melancholyn



821


00:37:07,247 --> 00:37:09,595


Tommy Chong: after that, I changed the act.



822


00:37:10,076 --> 00:37:12,343


Tommy Chong: See, when Cheech and I did it, I used it,



823


00:37:12,684 --> 00:37:13,546


Tommy Chong: it was all visual.



824


00:37:14,478 --> 00:37:17,577


Tommy Chong: He was too drunk to really play and so he



825


00:37:17,617 --> 00:37:19,741


Tommy Chong: just did all these visual funny things that



826


00:37:19,781 --> 00:37:22,926


Tommy Chong: were very funny and would get the crowd on



827


00:37:22,966 --> 00:37:23,888


Tommy Chong: the floor laughing.



828


00:37:24,935 --> 00:37:26,977


Tommy Chong: And then, when Cheech and I broke up, I



829


00:37:27,598 --> 00:37:30,320


Tommy Chong: started doing the Blame Melancholyn voice



830


00:37:31,882 --> 00:37:33,644


Tommy Chong: and doing jokes bits.



831


00:37:33,824 --> 00:37:37,247


Tommy Chong: You know, different, different black bits.



832


00:37:37,307 --> 00:37:39,449


Tommy Chong: You know, in fact I was, you might as well



833


00:37:39,489 --> 00:37:41,851


Tommy Chong: say, in fact I did appear in blackface,



834


00:37:42,935 --> 00:37:46,440


Tommy Chong: still smoking, in the movie because I



835


00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:51,527


Tommy Chong: always felt that that blind, you know, had



836


00:37:51,567 --> 00:37:57,400


Tommy Chong: the soul of a black man and but obviously



837


00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,026


Tommy Chong: not because her being, her, being a class



838


00:38:01,206 --> 00:38:02,708


Tommy Chong: on, he saw through it.



839


00:38:03,856 --> 00:38:05,467


Marc Preston: And so it's kind of like Mel Brooks.



840


00:38:05,507 --> 00:38:06,635


Marc Preston: You know he had a lot of his comedy.



841


00:38:06,896 --> 00:38:09,523


Marc Preston: It was never making fun of, it was trying



842


00:38:09,563 --> 00:38:10,486


Marc Preston: to embrace the.



843


00:38:11,899 --> 00:38:12,622


Marc Preston: It was parody.



844


00:38:12,662 --> 00:38:14,568


Marc Preston: Yeah, it was trying to kind of celebrate



845


00:38:14,588 --> 00:38:16,053


Marc Preston: the culture in a way where people like,



846


00:38:16,113 --> 00:38:17,939


Marc Preston: okay, I get it, he's not making fun of us,



847


00:38:18,059 --> 00:38:20,426


Marc Preston: you know, but it's a fine line.



848


00:38:20,735 --> 00:38:22,682


Marc Preston: But I just don't think that that could



849


00:38:22,742 --> 00:38:23,545


Marc Preston: happen today.



850


00:38:23,816 --> 00:38:25,161


Marc Preston: You know, I don't think they comedy.



851


00:38:25,655 --> 00:38:27,223


Marc Preston: I think the people are too quick on the



852


00:38:27,263 --> 00:38:29,635


Marc Preston: trigger to not political correctness.



853


00:38:30,279 --> 00:38:30,762


Marc Preston: I don't know.



854


00:38:34,001 --> 00:38:36,768


Tommy Chong: Yeah, the culture stealing the culture,



855


00:38:36,788 --> 00:38:37,770


Tommy Chong: something culture?



856


00:38:38,853 --> 00:38:39,354


Marc Preston: appropriation.



857


00:38:39,374 --> 00:38:43,037


Tommy Chong: I think yeah, I call it yeah yeah, all that



858


00:38:43,157 --> 00:38:45,240


Tommy Chong: all that weird talk, you know.



859


00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:48,464


Tommy Chong: But then if you look at like I was what I



860


00:38:48,484 --> 00:38:52,529


Tommy Chong: watched, all in the family and all the



861


00:38:52,549 --> 00:38:54,791


Tommy Chong: family just showed Archie Bunker there and



862


00:38:54,992 --> 00:38:57,615


Tommy Chong: another, you know, trump right up the bat.



863


00:38:58,157 --> 00:38:59,181


Tommy Chong: You know, I mean this.



864


00:38:59,261 --> 00:39:02,615


Tommy Chong: This guy was really sick in his hair.



865


00:39:03,376 --> 00:39:05,299


Tommy Chong: Nobody believed but it was it was.



866


00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,603


Marc Preston: It was parodying that guy, but you're also



867


00:39:08,024 --> 00:39:09,526


Marc Preston: empathetic and I think that's that's a



868


00:39:09,627 --> 00:39:10,929


Marc Preston: great acting and great.



869


00:39:11,129 --> 00:39:13,293


Marc Preston: You know, great comedy is you can be



870


00:39:13,353 --> 00:39:14,635


Marc Preston: empathetic to the ridiculous one.



871


00:39:15,056 --> 00:39:16,539


Marc Preston: You know you can kind of he's like all



872


00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:19,845


Marc Preston: right, but but when you had the, the, the



873


00:39:19,966 --> 00:39:21,990


Marc Preston: offshoot, which is the Jeffersons, the



874


00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:24,455


Marc Preston: interaction he had with his name is Kate



875


00:39:24,475 --> 00:39:24,635


Marc Preston: George.



876


00:39:25,518 --> 00:39:26,342


Tommy Chong: Yeah, George.



877


00:39:26,775 --> 00:39:29,780


Marc Preston: Yeah, the interaction that they had was



878


00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,042


Marc Preston: just like they're going at each other,



879


00:39:31,142 --> 00:39:32,885


Marc Preston: which is the way kind of funny, because



880


00:39:32,905 --> 00:39:34,167


Marc Preston: they're both being real from their own



881


00:39:34,207 --> 00:39:35,148


Marc Preston: perspective, you know.



882


00:39:35,408 --> 00:39:35,529


Tommy Chong: Yeah.



883


00:39:36,635 --> 00:39:38,842


Marc Preston: But I think that the comedies is very it



884


00:39:38,882 --> 00:39:40,975


Marc Preston: was nuanced, you know.



885


00:39:41,056 --> 00:39:43,218


Marc Preston: I guess you can say, but like you listen to



886


00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:45,401


Marc Preston: you talk about Bill Cosby before and who he



887


00:39:45,441 --> 00:39:47,644


Marc Preston: was appealing to, and I remember one of the



888


00:39:47,684 --> 00:39:49,687


Marc Preston: bits that Eddie Murphy did.



889


00:39:49,707 --> 00:39:51,770


Marc Preston: He was talking about how he got a call from



890


00:39:52,795 --> 00:39:54,619


Marc Preston: oh yeah, got got a call from Bill.



891


00:39:54,899 --> 00:39:56,382


Marc Preston: You know Bill Cosby saying, hey, you know



892


00:39:56,402 --> 00:39:57,644


Marc Preston: you need to dial back on that.



893


00:39:58,365 --> 00:39:59,928


Marc Preston: You know four letter words and all that and



894


00:39:59,948 --> 00:40:01,070


Marc Preston: he calls up Richard Pryor.



895


00:40:01,090 --> 00:40:02,192


Marc Preston: Is like Richard, what do you think you know?



896


00:40:02,212 --> 00:40:03,635


Marc Preston: Because Richard Pryor is like you know,



897


00:40:04,196 --> 00:40:04,817


Marc Preston: hell with him, man.



898


00:40:04,837 --> 00:40:06,319


Marc Preston: You know, I'm sure more colorful language



899


00:40:06,339 --> 00:40:07,100


Marc Preston: like do your thing.



900


00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:09,403


Marc Preston: You know it's like Richard Pryor was.



901


00:40:10,624 --> 00:40:13,728


Marc Preston: I think that that there's so many comedians



902


00:40:13,869 --> 00:40:17,393


Marc Preston: now that you can trace back the DNA to you



903


00:40:17,433 --> 00:40:18,615


Marc Preston: know, oh yeah, that Eddie Murphy.



904


00:40:19,037 --> 00:40:21,446


Marc Preston: Well, eddie Murphy traces DNA back to you



905


00:40:21,486 --> 00:40:22,772


Marc Preston: know, richard Pryor.



906


00:40:22,812 --> 00:40:23,635


Marc Preston: So I don't know.



907


00:40:23,655 --> 00:40:25,462


Marc Preston: There, I think I love comedy.



908


00:40:25,655 --> 00:40:27,110


Marc Preston: I think that I think I grew up in a really



909


00:40:27,170 --> 00:40:30,505


Marc Preston: wonderful time and I think in the 80s it



910


00:40:30,525 --> 00:40:32,270


Marc Preston: was all happening at Sam Kenneson, which is



911


00:40:32,311 --> 00:40:35,322


Marc Preston: just you know, probably off the wall.



912


00:40:36,316 --> 00:40:38,961


Marc Preston: Yeah, you know, and watch that documentary



913


00:40:38,981 --> 00:40:41,446


Marc Preston: that John Appetow did on George Carlin.



914


00:40:41,746 --> 00:40:42,327


Tommy Chong: I did, I did.



915


00:40:44,857 --> 00:40:46,501


Marc Preston: And I never knew this George Carlin had



916


00:40:46,601 --> 00:40:49,306


Marc Preston: seen Sam Kenneson and recognized wait a



917


00:40:49,346 --> 00:40:50,990


Marc Preston: minute, I need to make some adjustments



918


00:40:51,010 --> 00:40:53,415


Marc Preston: because I don't want to be kind of an



919


00:40:53,475 --> 00:40:56,063


Marc Preston: actress yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, left behind.



920


00:40:58,159 --> 00:40:59,522


Marc Preston: Yeah, and the and George Carlin weren't you



921


00:40:59,602 --> 00:41:00,404


Marc Preston: on his show once?



922


00:41:00,665 --> 00:41:02,940


Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, back at the George Carlin show,



923


00:41:03,655 --> 00:41:03,936


Marc Preston: yeah.



924


00:41:04,318 --> 00:41:07,221


Tommy Chong: I sure was, and I got to know George.



925


00:41:07,715 --> 00:41:10,680


Tommy Chong: One thing about George that nobody really



926


00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,304


Tommy Chong: talked about, even in the documentary I was



927


00:41:13,344 --> 00:41:15,387


Tommy Chong: shocked that he's a piano player.



928


00:41:16,068 --> 00:41:19,004


Tommy Chong: Really, I didn't know that he was once he



929


00:41:19,044 --> 00:41:19,608


Tommy Chong: had a group.



930


00:41:20,434 --> 00:41:22,125


Tommy Chong: One time he played in a group.



931


00:41:22,709 --> 00:41:23,615


Tommy Chong: He can play piano.



932


00:41:23,755 --> 00:41:26,464


Tommy Chong: That's where he got all the word stuff from.



933


00:41:26,956 --> 00:41:29,384


Tommy Chong: You know he's, he was very musical.



934


00:41:29,815 --> 00:41:31,799


Marc Preston: Yeah, I always thought I came up in Dallas



935


00:41:31,899 --> 00:41:33,322


Marc Preston: Radio and I always thought it was kind of



936


00:41:33,342 --> 00:41:34,804


Marc Preston: cool because, like you know, George Carlin



937


00:41:34,844 --> 00:41:36,187


Marc Preston: worked in Fort Worth Radio.



938


00:41:36,287 --> 00:41:39,141


Marc Preston: Yeah, and I was like that's kind of cool.



939


00:41:39,735 --> 00:41:41,219


Marc Preston: And this is where the seven words came.



940


00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,224


Marc Preston: The FCC got their seven words from as this



941


00:41:43,264 --> 00:41:43,846


Marc Preston: guy yeah.



942


00:41:44,876 --> 00:41:47,041


Marc Preston: George Carlin, you know, one of the funny



943


00:41:47,121 --> 00:41:48,525


Marc Preston: things I was wondering if you could kind of



944


00:41:48,565 --> 00:41:51,813


Marc Preston: clarify that I saw was they were actually



945


00:41:51,873 --> 00:41:53,438


Marc Preston: referred to Cheech in this and they said



946


00:41:53,458 --> 00:41:54,822


Marc Preston: that there was some time in the 80s where



947


00:41:54,842 --> 00:41:58,515


Marc Preston: they said Cheech said he was Get kind of



948


00:41:58,535 --> 00:41:58,635


Marc Preston: passé.



949


00:41:59,178 --> 00:42:00,705


Marc Preston: It's like, okay, you know George Carlin's



950


00:42:00,725 --> 00:42:02,293


Marc Preston: the 1970s.



951


00:42:02,313 --> 00:42:02,615


Tommy Chong: He's obsolete.



952


00:42:03,056 --> 00:42:04,943


Tommy Chong: He said no, he said he was obsolete.



953


00:42:06,217 --> 00:42:07,682


Tommy Chong: George Carlin was obsolete.



954


00:42:08,675 --> 00:42:10,963


Tommy Chong: And Cheech Cheech denied saying that.



955


00:42:12,496 --> 00:42:16,302


Tommy Chong: I asked Cheech about it, you know and, and



956


00:42:16,943 --> 00:42:20,247


Tommy Chong: he denied saying he could very well upset



957


00:42:20,327 --> 00:42:20,988


Tommy Chong: it one time.



958


00:42:22,916 --> 00:42:25,682


Tommy Chong: But George Cheech used to do George, one of



959


00:42:25,722 --> 00:42:29,537


Tommy Chong: George Bitts, really, george, yeah, just



960


00:42:29,557 --> 00:42:31,460


Tommy Chong: pulled the twine something.



961


00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,766


Tommy Chong: You know, cowboy, you don't take off on the



962


00:42:34,806 --> 00:42:35,247


Tommy Chong: cowboys.



963


00:42:36,815 --> 00:42:40,265


Tommy Chong: I, I, I then I knew George.



964


00:42:41,076 --> 00:42:41,979


Tommy Chong: I was on a show.



965


00:42:43,816 --> 00:42:46,838


Tommy Chong: I never got tight with him, you know, and,



966


00:42:47,019 --> 00:42:50,056


Tommy Chong: and, by the way, I saw the last show George



967


00:42:50,176 --> 00:42:55,143


Tommy Chong: did was there was a whole slew of comedians



968


00:42:55,844 --> 00:43:01,439


Tommy Chong: at the Wadsworth Theater in Westwood and it



969


00:43:01,499 --> 00:43:04,125


Tommy Chong: was George's last performance, really.



970


00:43:04,145 --> 00:43:04,806


Tommy Chong: And you saw that.



971


00:43:06,076 --> 00:43:07,882


Tommy Chong: Yeah, I saw that Norm Cosby was there.



972


00:43:08,815 --> 00:43:10,659


Tommy Chong: Oh, what was the?



973


00:43:10,699 --> 00:43:12,342


Tommy Chong: Remember the guy that used to have the



974


00:43:12,402 --> 00:43:16,877


Tommy Chong: newspaper under his arm the very first?



975


00:43:18,521 --> 00:43:19,382


Tommy Chong: What was his name?



976


00:43:22,635 --> 00:43:28,366


Tommy Chong: He did commentary on God.



977


00:43:28,387 --> 00:43:29,609


Tommy Chong: I can't think of his name right now.



978


00:43:29,936 --> 00:43:31,140


Marc Preston: I think I know what you're talking about.



979


00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,284


Marc Preston: I'm not wearing a curtain on it.



980


00:43:32,635 --> 00:43:32,836


Tommy Chong: It was.



981


00:43:33,038 --> 00:43:34,628


Tommy Chong: It was his, his last show.



982


00:43:35,201 --> 00:43:37,879


Tommy Chong: In fact, it was because of that, it was



983


00:43:37,899 --> 00:43:40,057


Tommy Chong: going to be his last show period and he



984


00:43:40,097 --> 00:43:41,382


Tommy Chong: died shortly after that.



985


00:43:41,958 --> 00:43:44,799


Tommy Chong: But yeah, I saw all those last shows and it



986


00:43:44,839 --> 00:43:48,411


Tommy Chong: was quite a thrill for me because I, you



987


00:43:48,431 --> 00:43:49,635


Tommy Chong: know, we grew up with all those guys?



988


00:43:50,158 --> 00:43:51,826


Marc Preston: Well, yeah, but you also know how much goes



989


00:43:52,087 --> 00:43:55,085


Marc Preston: into building an act and how many, how much



990


00:43:55,145 --> 00:43:57,296


Marc Preston: is working it out over and over, and just



991


00:43:57,757 --> 00:44:00,082


Marc Preston: till you get your show set, your HBO show



992


00:44:00,162 --> 00:44:00,423


Marc Preston: set.



993


00:44:00,483 --> 00:44:02,026


Marc Preston: You know they don't see all the time you're



994


00:44:02,046 --> 00:44:03,469


Marc Preston: in these dark clubs working it out.



995


00:44:03,976 --> 00:44:05,619


Marc Preston: But you know, george Carlin, I think



996


00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,325


Marc Preston: starting in about 2016, I wish is like God,



997


00:44:09,365 --> 00:44:11,609


Marc Preston: this is the time he was meant to be here.



998


00:44:11,736 --> 00:44:14,570


Marc Preston: You know, 2016 forward, when, politically



999


00:44:14,610 --> 00:44:15,996


Marc Preston: and everything going on in our world I mean,



Speaker:

00:44:16,017 --> 00:44:19,199


Marc Preston: this is the stuff he was commenting on and



Speaker:

00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:21,265


Marc Preston: people thought he was extremely cynical or



Speaker:

00:44:21,305 --> 00:44:21,586


Marc Preston: whatever.



Speaker:

00:44:21,635 --> 00:44:23,179


Marc Preston: I was like no, he's, he's got some



Speaker:

00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:25,064


Marc Preston: perspective that maybe he was a little bit



Speaker:

00:44:25,084 --> 00:44:27,960


Marc Preston: of a forecaster, you know, oh he was he was



Speaker:

00:44:28,655 --> 00:44:30,058


Marc Preston: and what the truth is.



Speaker:

00:44:32,262 --> 00:44:34,587


Tommy Chong: I think you got to be very careful when



Speaker:

00:44:34,607 --> 00:44:35,409


Tommy Chong: you're a comedian.



Speaker:

00:44:36,999 --> 00:44:37,480


Tommy Chong: I had a.



Speaker:

00:44:39,185 --> 00:44:42,414


Tommy Chong: They honored me at the Skirball in Los



Speaker:

00:44:42,454 --> 00:44:42,635


Tommy Chong: Angeles.



Speaker:

00:44:43,197 --> 00:44:44,462


Tommy Chong: Do you know where the Skirball is?



Speaker:

00:44:44,675 --> 00:44:46,221


Tommy Chong: I've never heard that about that before.



Speaker:

00:44:47,177 --> 00:44:52,073


Tommy Chong: Skirball is a Jewish center, the community



Speaker:

00:44:52,093 --> 00:44:52,595


Tommy Chong: center kind of thing.



Speaker:

00:44:53,078 --> 00:44:53,722


Marc Preston: Oh, okay, I got.



Speaker:

00:44:53,742 --> 00:44:55,595


Tommy Chong: You Is like all Fairfax or something, or,



Speaker:

00:44:56,296 --> 00:44:59,663


Tommy Chong: yeah, no, it's up on 405, near the Getty



Speaker:

00:44:59,703 --> 00:45:01,727


Tommy Chong: Museum, near the museum up there.



Speaker:

00:45:02,148 --> 00:45:05,021


Tommy Chong: Okay, and as you go up, then it's Skirball



Speaker:

00:45:05,081 --> 00:45:08,097


Tommy Chong: is called any, it's a Skirball center and



Speaker:

00:45:08,277 --> 00:45:11,597


Tommy Chong: and and so they're going to honor me and



Speaker:

00:45:11,697 --> 00:45:14,261


Tommy Chong: anytime anybody honors anybody.



Speaker:

00:45:14,401 --> 00:45:18,067


Tommy Chong: It's just a scam really to get them to do



Speaker:

00:45:18,107 --> 00:45:19,069


Tommy Chong: an act for nothing.



Speaker:

00:45:19,655 --> 00:45:21,438


Tommy Chong: You know, you get a plaque, you get a



Speaker:

00:45:21,478 --> 00:45:24,602


Tommy Chong: plaque or you get a meal, but and usually



Speaker:

00:45:24,622 --> 00:45:27,606


Tommy Chong: they have a lot of other comedians on and



Speaker:

00:45:27,927 --> 00:45:29,870


Tommy Chong: they're they're doing their act and



Speaker:

00:45:29,890 --> 00:45:30,390


Tommy Chong: everything else.



Speaker:

00:45:31,337 --> 00:45:35,407


Tommy Chong: So I got, I got they wanted to honor me.



Speaker:

00:45:36,076 --> 00:45:38,759


Tommy Chong: Well, I'm kind of in.



Speaker:

00:45:41,222 --> 00:45:45,287


Tommy Chong: I only went into comedy after when we broke



Speaker:

00:45:45,387 --> 00:45:45,447


Tommy Chong: up.



Speaker:

00:45:48,775 --> 00:45:51,404


Tommy Chong: See, I was always a part of a comedy team



Speaker:

00:45:51,936 --> 00:45:54,103


Tommy Chong: and I was very comfortable with that.



Speaker:

00:45:55,077 --> 00:45:58,341


Tommy Chong: When she and I broke up, I saw Dennis



Speaker:

00:45:58,381 --> 00:45:58,642


Tommy Chong: Miller.



Speaker:

00:45:58,762 --> 00:45:59,725


Tommy Chong: Remember Dennis Miller?



Speaker:

00:45:59,806 --> 00:46:03,142


Tommy Chong: Yeah, absolutely, I saw Dennis Miller in



Speaker:

00:46:03,182 --> 00:46:06,440


Tommy Chong: Vancouver and he was in this little comedy



Speaker:

00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:06,721


Tommy Chong: club.



Speaker:

00:46:06,801 --> 00:46:09,657


Tommy Chong: I knew the owner of the comedy club and he



Speaker:

00:46:09,697 --> 00:46:10,999


Tommy Chong: said Dennis Miller's playing, oh.



Speaker:

00:46:11,019 --> 00:46:14,325


Tommy Chong: So I went down and and I met Dennis and



Speaker:

00:46:14,365 --> 00:46:17,516


Tommy Chong: Dennis is all nervous before the show, and



Speaker:

00:46:17,536 --> 00:46:21,963


Tommy Chong: the little guy you know and and he said to



Speaker:

00:46:22,023 --> 00:46:24,828


Tommy Chong: me he says do you, do you still get nervous



Speaker:

00:46:24,868 --> 00:46:25,729


Tommy Chong: before you go on?



Speaker:

00:46:26,795 --> 00:46:29,003


Tommy Chong: And I hadn't been on stage for years by



Speaker:

00:46:29,043 --> 00:46:32,197


Tommy Chong: that time, yeah, doing movies and that, and



Speaker:

00:46:32,438 --> 00:46:33,722


Tommy Chong: and he just caught me.



Speaker:

00:46:34,755 --> 00:46:39,040


Tommy Chong: He just caught me in a net and and then I



Speaker:

00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,546


Tommy Chong: watched the show and I sat there thinking I



Speaker:

00:46:41,586 --> 00:46:43,622


Tommy Chong: got to do this, I got to do this.



Speaker:

00:46:44,125 --> 00:46:45,595


Tommy Chong: This is this is what I got to do.



Speaker:

00:46:46,296 --> 00:46:48,000


Tommy Chong: And so, right after Dennis Miller that was



Speaker:

00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:54,880


Tommy Chong: 90, christmas of 93, I believe Because as



Speaker:

00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,967


Tommy Chong: soon as I got back to LA, I went on, I went.



Speaker:

00:46:58,147 --> 00:47:00,693


Tommy Chong: I found, you know, the freebies, the comedy



Speaker:

00:47:00,713 --> 00:47:02,820


Tommy Chong: club where you can go worse, and there was



Speaker:

00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:03,462


Tommy Chong: one in this.



Speaker:

00:47:04,456 --> 00:47:07,922


Tommy Chong: It's kind of a kind of poetic justice in



Speaker:

00:47:09,284 --> 00:47:09,645


Tommy Chong: teaching.



Speaker:

00:47:09,705 --> 00:47:11,067


Tommy Chong: I did a song one time.



Speaker:

00:47:11,127 --> 00:47:12,470


Tommy Chong: You know that you're in my eye.



Speaker:

00:47:13,036 --> 00:47:15,402


Tommy Chong: You know I'm so bloody rich on apartment



Speaker:

00:47:15,442 --> 00:47:17,186


Tommy Chong: building, shopping centers.



Speaker:

00:47:18,136 --> 00:47:20,420


Tommy Chong: Well, the comedy club that I was going to



Speaker:

00:47:20,460 --> 00:47:22,604


Tommy Chong: work in was the shopping center that we



Speaker:

00:47:22,644 --> 00:47:23,906


Tommy Chong: were part owners of.



Speaker:

00:47:26,538 --> 00:47:28,123


Marc Preston: You call the irony tour yeah.



Speaker:

00:47:28,916 --> 00:47:32,586


Tommy Chong: And so I'm getting ready to go on stage, on,



Speaker:

00:47:33,449 --> 00:47:35,635


Tommy Chong: on stage, for the first time by myself.



Speaker:

00:47:36,276 --> 00:47:39,201


Tommy Chong: I got myself a nice sports jacket.



Speaker:

00:47:39,342 --> 00:47:42,007


Tommy Chong: You know I was going to be like a standup



Speaker:

00:47:42,067 --> 00:47:47,124


Tommy Chong: comedian, you know, like, like, like Dennis



Speaker:

00:47:47,164 --> 00:47:47,404


Tommy Chong: Miller.



Speaker:

00:47:49,437 --> 00:47:54,006


Tommy Chong: Well, anyway, the night before Rodney King



Speaker:

00:47:54,747 --> 00:47:55,368


Tommy Chong: got, whacked.



Speaker:

00:47:55,835 --> 00:48:01,007


Marc Preston: Oh, that's right, it was a 92 93 93, 93.



Speaker:

00:48:02,538 --> 00:48:08,359


Tommy Chong: And that happened the night before I saw it



Speaker:

00:48:08,699 --> 00:48:09,020


Tommy Chong: and then.



Speaker:

00:48:09,921 --> 00:48:12,724


Tommy Chong: So I wrote down a few bits about it and



Speaker:

00:48:13,164 --> 00:48:16,148


Tommy Chong: when I went on stage that was the first



Speaker:

00:48:16,188 --> 00:48:18,430


Tommy Chong: thing I did was talk about the Rodney King



Speaker:

00:48:18,911 --> 00:48:23,060


Tommy Chong: beating and I said it's funny how mothers



Speaker:

00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,304


Tommy Chong: doesn't matter why you're on TV, mothers



Speaker:

00:48:26,324 --> 00:48:28,488


Tommy Chong: will get excited just seeing their son on



Speaker:

00:48:28,528 --> 00:48:28,828


Tommy Chong: TV.



Speaker:

00:48:31,156 --> 00:48:33,620


Tommy Chong: And I say I could just visualize the cops,



Speaker:

00:48:33,701 --> 00:48:36,806


Tommy Chong: mother you know saying oh, that's my boy,



Speaker:

00:48:38,795 --> 00:48:39,959


Tommy Chong: that's my boy, look at him.



Speaker:

00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,079


Tommy Chong: Oh yeah, and it got a.



Speaker:

00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:45,202


Tommy Chong: You you laugh.



Speaker:

00:48:45,563 --> 00:48:48,239


Tommy Chong: Yeah, and I got a few chuckles.



Speaker:

00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:51,345


Tommy Chong: But the first thing a guy said after I did



Speaker:

00:48:51,385 --> 00:48:54,058


Tommy Chong: that bit hey, where's cheats?



Speaker:

00:49:04,579 --> 00:49:07,023


Marc Preston: Well, what is that like, though, being so,



Speaker:

00:49:08,846 --> 00:49:10,189


Marc Preston: you know, independently of done?



Speaker:

00:49:10,489 --> 00:49:12,138


Marc Preston: You know y'all definitely stand on your own



Speaker:

00:49:12,158 --> 00:49:14,364


Marc Preston: two feet, had great projects and endeavors



Speaker:

00:49:14,484 --> 00:49:16,458


Marc Preston: and entrepreneurial things that you've done,



Speaker:

00:49:17,215 --> 00:49:18,879


Marc Preston: but what's it like to kind of spend a



Speaker:

00:49:18,919 --> 00:49:21,806


Marc Preston: career that you've got a career brother, as



Speaker:

00:49:21,846 --> 00:49:22,147


Marc Preston: it were?



Speaker:

00:49:22,295 --> 00:49:24,260


Marc Preston: You know you get kind of hard to talk about



Speaker:

00:49:24,581 --> 00:49:25,904


Marc Preston: one of y'all without thinking about the



Speaker:

00:49:25,964 --> 00:49:26,105


Marc Preston: other.



Speaker:

00:49:26,145 --> 00:49:26,806


Marc Preston: What is that like?



Speaker:

00:49:27,476 --> 00:49:30,644


Marc Preston: Is it, is it ever impeded you anything



Speaker:

00:49:30,664 --> 00:49:32,057


Marc Preston: you've done, in a way, like it's like oh



Speaker:

00:49:32,077 --> 00:49:33,421


Marc Preston: man, I'm trying to kind of break out of



Speaker:

00:49:33,481 --> 00:49:33,622


Marc Preston: this.



Speaker:

00:49:34,675 --> 00:49:36,140


Marc Preston: Like in that, like right there on stage,



Speaker:

00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,704


Marc Preston: I'm just like where's Cheech, you know, is



Speaker:

00:49:37,724 --> 00:49:38,126


Marc Preston: that something?



Speaker:

00:49:38,837 --> 00:49:40,782


Tommy Chong: I think no no, not at all.



Speaker:

00:49:40,983 --> 00:49:41,505


Tommy Chong: Not at all.



Speaker:

00:49:42,255 --> 00:49:44,742


Tommy Chong: No, I'm like I said, I grew up backing up



Speaker:

00:49:44,883 --> 00:49:45,204


Tommy Chong: people.



Speaker:

00:49:45,585 --> 00:49:48,624


Tommy Chong: Yeah, so I totally understand, you know,



Speaker:

00:49:48,945 --> 00:49:50,090


Tommy Chong: and me talking you know.



Speaker:

00:49:50,130 --> 00:49:51,756


Tommy Chong: You know, when people found out I was a



Speaker:

00:49:51,817 --> 00:49:53,262


Tommy Chong: comedian, they didn't believe it.



Speaker:

00:49:53,415 --> 00:49:55,822


Tommy Chong: They thought it was somebody else because



Speaker:

00:49:55,943 --> 00:49:56,525


Tommy Chong: I've gone.



Speaker:

00:49:56,826 --> 00:49:58,671


Tommy Chong: You know, I've known people all my life



Speaker:

00:49:59,032 --> 00:49:59,875


Tommy Chong: where I never talked.



Speaker:

00:50:00,536 --> 00:50:00,777


Tommy Chong: I knew.



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00:50:00,897 --> 00:50:02,440


Tommy Chong: You know I was a backup guitar player.



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00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,669


Tommy Chong: You know I had nothing to say except and



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00:50:06,755 --> 00:50:07,096


Tommy Chong: whisper.



Speaker:

00:50:07,317 --> 00:50:08,099


Tommy Chong: What corner are we in?



Speaker:

00:50:11,155 --> 00:50:13,022


Marc Preston: He wanted to do more acting stuff.



Speaker:

00:50:13,255 --> 00:50:13,698


Marc Preston: You know he was.



Speaker:

00:50:13,939 --> 00:50:14,442


Marc Preston: You know that was.



Speaker:

00:50:14,664 --> 00:50:15,227


Marc Preston: He was on the board.



Speaker:

00:50:15,388 --> 00:50:17,377


Marc Preston: Like I want to say straight as opposed to



Speaker:

00:50:17,798 --> 00:50:20,084


Marc Preston: you know but he's, he's one of you know,



Speaker:

00:50:20,144 --> 00:50:21,207


Marc Preston: non comedic necessary.



Speaker:

00:50:21,295 --> 00:50:23,021


Marc Preston: You know, maybe he was playing the kind of



Speaker:

00:50:23,081 --> 00:50:23,824


Marc Preston: funny guy in it.



Speaker:

00:50:23,975 --> 00:50:26,642


Marc Preston: But after that happened, what was kind of



Speaker:

00:50:26,662 --> 00:50:28,607


Marc Preston: your, your, your, what were your endeavors,



Speaker:

00:50:28,835 --> 00:50:30,201


Marc Preston: what were you up to at that point in time?



Speaker:

00:50:30,435 --> 00:50:32,656


Tommy Chong: Whenever you were just doing his thing, I



Speaker:

00:50:32,776 --> 00:50:36,123


Tommy Chong: was really on a roll because I had directed,



Speaker:

00:50:36,524 --> 00:50:40,120


Tommy Chong: I wrote and directed what happened when we



Speaker:

00:50:40,180 --> 00:50:42,669


Tommy Chong: got screwed out of the up and smoke money,



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00:50:43,211 --> 00:50:43,954


Tommy Chong: which was a good.



Speaker:

00:50:43,974 --> 00:50:46,960


Tommy Chong: It was a good thing, because had we not,



Speaker:

00:50:47,081 --> 00:50:50,107


Tommy Chong: had we, you know, cashed in, we probably



Speaker:

00:50:50,187 --> 00:50:52,480


Tommy Chong: would not have done what we did, you know.



Speaker:

00:50:53,815 --> 00:50:54,858


Marc Preston: And so I kind of made you hungry.



Speaker:

00:50:54,918 --> 00:50:56,362


Marc Preston: I guess, right, yeah, yeah.



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00:50:57,895 --> 00:51:00,116


Tommy Chong: I mean, I got this in the game, so I don't.



Speaker:

00:51:02,279 --> 00:51:05,545


Tommy Chong: The thing that really bothered me was when



Speaker:

00:51:05,825 --> 00:51:09,637


Tommy Chong: I you know, like you said I teach got all



Speaker:

00:51:09,657 --> 00:51:09,817


Tommy Chong: the.



Speaker:

00:51:09,957 --> 00:51:12,182


Tommy Chong: You know all the, the, the lines.



Speaker:

00:51:12,202 --> 00:51:15,537


Tommy Chong: You know he was the lead guy, you know like



Speaker:

00:51:15,557 --> 00:51:17,962


Tommy Chong: the lead singer, you know I was a backup



Speaker:

00:51:18,343 --> 00:51:25,426


Tommy Chong: guy, but when he had a chance, see, and I



Speaker:

00:51:25,486 --> 00:51:28,894


Tommy Chong: wrote most of the bits, but when he had a



Speaker:

00:51:28,954 --> 00:51:32,204


Tommy Chong: chance to write something, just on



Speaker:

00:51:32,325 --> 00:51:35,093


Tommy Chong: percheach, that's all he did, he just wrote



Speaker:

00:51:35,114 --> 00:51:35,535


Tommy Chong: it percheach.



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00:51:35,836 --> 00:51:39,118


Tommy Chong: He never included song, and I'm talking



Speaker:

00:51:39,158 --> 00:51:40,487


Tommy Chong: about Born in East LA.



Speaker:

00:51:40,849 --> 00:51:42,336


Marc Preston: Oh yeah, See Born in.



Speaker:

00:51:42,436 --> 00:51:42,576


Tommy Chong: East.



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00:51:42,717 --> 00:51:46,824


Tommy Chong: Born in East LA was a takeoff of Bruce



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00:51:46,864 --> 00:51:48,888


Tommy Chong: Springsteen's song Born in.



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00:51:49,575 --> 00:51:50,299


Announcer: Born in the USA.



Speaker:

00:51:51,655 --> 00:51:54,342


Tommy Chong: While Cheech turned it to Born in East LA,



Speaker:

00:51:54,904 --> 00:51:56,717


Tommy Chong: which is fine, it was great.



Speaker:

00:51:56,917 --> 00:52:00,223


Tommy Chong: Except when it came to put my part in, he



Speaker:

00:52:00,283 --> 00:52:01,486


Tommy Chong: never had a part for me.



Speaker:

00:52:03,475 --> 00:52:05,806


Tommy Chong: And then he says, oh no, and I called him



Speaker:

00:52:05,887 --> 00:52:07,615


Tommy Chong: out on it, you know, because he was telling



Speaker:

00:52:07,655 --> 00:52:09,422


Tommy Chong: me, you know, he wrote the song Born in



Speaker:

00:52:09,442 --> 00:52:09,883


Tommy Chong: East LA.



Speaker:

00:52:10,015 --> 00:52:12,461


Tommy Chong: I was like, oh great, you know, no, that's



Speaker:

00:52:12,481 --> 00:52:12,842


Tommy Chong: for him.



Speaker:

00:52:14,955 --> 00:52:18,243


Tommy Chong: But then he, you know, he was Cheech and



Speaker:

00:52:18,263 --> 00:52:19,787


Tommy Chong: Chong at the time, so he put it down.



Speaker:

00:52:20,175 --> 00:52:23,998


Tommy Chong: It was written by Cheech and Chong and



Speaker:

00:52:24,058 --> 00:52:25,522


Tommy Chong: everything is Cheech and Chong, cheech and



Speaker:

00:52:25,542 --> 00:52:26,966


Tommy Chong: Chong, except the performance.



Speaker:

00:52:27,535 --> 00:52:31,184


Tommy Chong: And so I said to him well, where's my part,



Speaker:

00:52:32,555 --> 00:52:32,856


Tommy Chong: you know?



Speaker:

00:52:32,876 --> 00:52:34,742


Tommy Chong: He said oh, you play a cop.



Speaker:

00:52:35,975 --> 00:52:39,421


Tommy Chong: Well, to me, you know, that's one of the



Speaker:

00:52:39,481 --> 00:52:43,467


Tommy Chong: biggest insults you could do, unless you



Speaker:

00:52:43,607 --> 00:52:44,669


Tommy Chong: add the comedy part.



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00:52:45,355 --> 00:52:47,142


Marc Preston: Okay, you're a cop, but here's your



Speaker:

00:52:47,202 --> 00:52:49,240


Marc Preston: committee, yeah, where his focus is very



Speaker:

00:52:49,340 --> 00:52:50,824


Marc Preston: narrow about how he's going to be coming



Speaker:

00:52:50,925 --> 00:52:51,005


Marc Preston: out.



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00:52:51,416 --> 00:52:52,719


Announcer: You know you're thinking globally.



Speaker:

00:52:52,759 --> 00:52:53,782


Marc Preston: You know you're thinking about the whole



Speaker:

00:52:53,822 --> 00:52:54,364


Marc Preston: project.



Speaker:

00:52:55,717 --> 00:52:57,242


Tommy Chong: That's and that's the way I thought about



Speaker:

00:52:57,302 --> 00:52:58,838


Tommy Chong: everything, the movies, everything.



Speaker:

00:52:58,898 --> 00:53:00,443


Tommy Chong: You know, I never, never think.



Speaker:

00:53:01,095 --> 00:53:04,541


Tommy Chong: And it wasn't until you know, lately, that



Speaker:

00:53:04,621 --> 00:53:07,988


Tommy Chong: I realized that he did his best he could do.



Speaker:

00:53:08,975 --> 00:53:11,163


Tommy Chong: You know that that was the best he could do



Speaker:

00:53:11,315 --> 00:53:12,881


Tommy Chong: and that was the best he could come up with,



Speaker:

00:53:13,355 --> 00:53:18,084


Tommy Chong: and so, as a result, we, we just quit.



Speaker:

00:53:18,986 --> 00:53:20,449


Tommy Chong: We could quit communicating.



Speaker:

00:53:22,178 --> 00:53:22,919


Tommy Chong: I'm going to show them.



Speaker:

00:53:23,059 --> 00:53:23,901


Announcer: Did you, did he come?



Speaker:

00:53:24,061 --> 00:53:24,683


Tommy Chong: Yeah, he came.



Speaker:

00:53:24,743 --> 00:53:25,584


Tommy Chong: He's going to talk to you.



Speaker:

00:53:25,945 --> 00:53:27,107


Announcer: And he looked it over.



Speaker:

00:53:27,388 --> 00:53:28,329


Announcer: Yeah, he's going to talk to you.



Speaker:

00:53:28,370 --> 00:53:31,055


Tommy Chong: Okay, thanks, was that show.



Speaker:

00:53:32,459 --> 00:53:35,758


Tommy Chong: Yeah, my darling wife just liked him oh.



Speaker:

00:53:35,818 --> 00:53:37,302


Marc Preston: I love, you know, I love hearing y'all with



Speaker:

00:53:37,904 --> 00:53:38,726


Marc Preston: when y'all were doing the podcast.



Speaker:

00:53:38,755 --> 00:53:40,601


Marc Preston: By the way, I want y'all to do the podcast



Speaker:

00:53:40,642 --> 00:53:41,404


Marc Preston: of Paris again.



Speaker:

00:53:41,736 --> 00:53:43,182


Marc Preston: I used to love and Shelby would show up.



Speaker:

00:53:43,636 --> 00:53:43,837


Marc Preston: That was.



Speaker:

00:53:43,857 --> 00:53:44,379


Marc Preston: That was fun.



Speaker:

00:53:46,980 --> 00:53:48,585


Tommy Chong: Well, you go way back with us.



Speaker:

00:53:48,775 --> 00:53:49,417


Tommy Chong: Yeah, no, no, no.



Speaker:

00:53:49,717 --> 00:53:50,118


Marc Preston: I loved.



Speaker:

00:53:50,158 --> 00:53:53,266


Marc Preston: You know, listening to the two of y'all is



Speaker:

00:53:53,286 --> 00:53:54,537


Marc Preston: like man, this is, this is some



Speaker:

00:53:55,459 --> 00:53:57,646


Marc Preston: non-traditional but awesome father-son time.



Speaker:

00:53:57,715 --> 00:53:58,878


Marc Preston: I love this, you know.



Speaker:

00:53:58,978 --> 00:54:00,321


Marc Preston: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.



Speaker:

00:54:00,361 --> 00:54:01,284


Tommy Chong: No, he is Paris.



Speaker:

00:54:04,299 --> 00:54:04,881


Tommy Chong: All my kids.



Speaker:

00:54:05,443 --> 00:54:06,687


Tommy Chong: That was the other thing too.



Speaker:

00:54:06,707 --> 00:54:07,028


Tommy Chong: You know that.



Speaker:

00:54:07,048 --> 00:54:08,011


Tommy Chong: That was with Cheech.



Speaker:

00:54:08,071 --> 00:54:11,059


Tommy Chong: You know Cheech Well.



Speaker:

00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:12,703


Tommy Chong: You know he's raised by policemen.



Speaker:

00:54:13,184 --> 00:54:18,575


Tommy Chong: Really, yeah, his dad's was a LAPD and in



Speaker:

00:54:18,616 --> 00:54:22,663


Tommy Chong: fact, as dad rose up quite high in the LAPD,



Speaker:

00:54:22,683 --> 00:54:24,806


Tommy Chong: he became a teacher.



Speaker:

00:54:26,895 --> 00:54:28,119


Tommy Chong: He was very well respected.



Speaker:

00:54:30,115 --> 00:54:33,483


Tommy Chong: And so Cheech all his life had to deal with



Speaker:

00:54:33,563 --> 00:54:35,067


Tommy Chong: his dad being a cop.



Speaker:

00:54:35,735 --> 00:54:38,362


Tommy Chong: That's why, that's why the lowrider was was



Speaker:

00:54:38,402 --> 00:54:39,365


Tommy Chong: a big stretch for him.



Speaker:

00:54:40,295 --> 00:54:42,442


Tommy Chong: Cheech did not want to go down that route



Speaker:

00:54:43,195 --> 00:54:45,561


Tommy Chong: and we never knew he was Mexican until he



Speaker:

00:54:45,641 --> 00:54:47,807


Tommy Chong: came to to became Dalai.



Speaker:

00:54:48,296 --> 00:54:50,325


Tommy Chong: And then one time we were working a club



Speaker:

00:54:50,386 --> 00:54:52,194


Tommy Chong: and we weren't going over because we're



Speaker:

00:54:52,214 --> 00:54:55,777


Tommy Chong: doing all our Canadian humor, and I said to



Speaker:

00:54:55,817 --> 00:54:57,655


Tommy Chong: Cheech I said you're from here, man, come



Speaker:

00:54:57,695 --> 00:54:59,420


Tommy Chong: on, there must be a character.



Speaker:

00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:00,603


Tommy Chong: You know that you can.



Speaker:

00:55:01,485 --> 00:55:03,719


Tommy Chong: And he said, yeah, there is one, but I am



Speaker:

00:55:03,739 --> 00:55:04,160


Tommy Chong: not too.



Speaker:

00:55:04,682 --> 00:55:05,485


Tommy Chong: I said what's matter?



Speaker:

00:55:05,635 --> 00:55:06,618


Tommy Chong: He said, well, you know, a little



Speaker:

00:55:06,658 --> 00:55:07,341


Tommy Chong: detrimental.



Speaker:

00:55:08,716 --> 00:55:10,902


Tommy Chong: And he, he denied saying this conversation,



Speaker:

00:55:10,962 --> 00:55:11,363


Tommy Chong: by the way.



Speaker:

00:55:12,655 --> 00:55:14,598


Tommy Chong: And he says it's a little detrimental.



Speaker:

00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:18,946


Tommy Chong: But and the Chicano, the top Chicanos, had



Speaker:

00:55:19,006 --> 00:55:24,924


Tommy Chong: a meeting, the guy that, louis Spaldes, you



Speaker:

00:55:24,964 --> 00:55:30,642


Tommy Chong: know, the director, anyway, he, the, the



Speaker:

00:55:30,903 --> 00:55:33,567


Tommy Chong: intellectual Chicano community, did not



Speaker:

00:55:33,627 --> 00:55:35,917


Tommy Chong: like the character Cheech was portraying.



Speaker:

00:55:36,378 --> 00:55:39,144


Tommy Chong: You know which is why we never had no



Speaker:

00:55:39,164 --> 00:55:41,796


Tommy Chong: writers up until Cheech and we haven't



Speaker:

00:55:41,856 --> 00:55:44,783


Tommy Chong: really had a lowrider since, you know,



Speaker:

00:55:45,284 --> 00:55:46,006


Tommy Chong: because they.



Speaker:

00:55:46,467 --> 00:55:48,260


Marc Preston: I know y'all have done some things over the



Speaker:

00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,103


Marc Preston: last few years.



Speaker:

00:55:49,475 --> 00:55:51,641


Marc Preston: Are y'all kind of contemplating ever doing



Speaker:

00:55:51,681 --> 00:55:55,205


Marc Preston: a project together, anything else?



Speaker:

00:55:55,225 --> 00:55:56,135


Tommy Chong: anytime soon.



Speaker:

00:55:56,175 --> 00:55:57,919


Tommy Chong: There's a movie out, there's a movie



Speaker:

00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,406


Tommy Chong: getting prepped now that they want us in



Speaker:

00:56:01,446 --> 00:56:03,699


Tommy Chong: there and Cheech will probably go for it.



Speaker:

00:56:04,935 --> 00:56:06,839


Tommy Chong: It's an older version of us, you know.



Speaker:

00:56:06,879 --> 00:56:08,403


Tommy Chong: It's now at our age.



Speaker:

00:56:08,503 --> 00:56:12,160


Tommy Chong: Now you know we'll have to see how it looks



Speaker:

00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,099


Tommy Chong: in that We've got a documentary that's



Speaker:

00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:16,883


Tommy Chong: coming out, that's going to.



Speaker:

00:56:18,706 --> 00:56:20,877


Tommy Chong: It's a Cheech and Jung documentary.



Speaker:

00:56:21,298 --> 00:56:25,329


Tommy Chong: The backstory or the behind the scenes



Speaker:

00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:28,818


Tommy Chong: story is pretty funny because you know me,



Speaker:

00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,486


Tommy Chong: I'm sort of spur of the moment kind of guy,



Speaker:

00:56:32,526 --> 00:56:32,726


Tommy Chong: you know.



Speaker:

00:56:33,935 --> 00:56:35,902


Tommy Chong: And so it's my daughter, robbie, and her



Speaker:

00:56:35,942 --> 00:56:36,564


Tommy Chong: guy, dave.



Speaker:

00:56:37,056 --> 00:56:40,524


Tommy Chong: Now Dave's a very talented movie maker,



Speaker:

00:56:41,955 --> 00:56:45,065


Tommy Chong: work with Jim Carrey and the Slingblade.



Speaker:

00:56:45,455 --> 00:56:48,062


Tommy Chong: He did Slingblade and he's been done.



Speaker:

00:56:49,535 --> 00:56:51,298


Tommy Chong: He is definitely a movie maker.



Speaker:

00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,944


Tommy Chong: And they were doing a documentary on Cheech



Speaker:

00:56:53,984 --> 00:56:58,039


Tommy Chong: and Jung and it seemed like it was never



Speaker:

00:56:58,079 --> 00:56:59,043


Tommy Chong: going to get finished.



Speaker:

00:57:00,076 --> 00:57:04,305


Tommy Chong: And so one day I was driving home with a



Speaker:

00:57:04,926 --> 00:57:07,872


Tommy Chong: friend of mine, we did a golf tournament



Speaker:

00:57:08,193 --> 00:57:12,704


Tommy Chong: and I came up, I got high on one of my



Speaker:

00:57:12,965 --> 00:57:15,892


Tommy Chong: products and I came up with a great idea



Speaker:

00:57:15,973 --> 00:57:17,757


Tommy Chong: for the ending of a documentary.



Speaker:

00:57:18,057 --> 00:57:20,002


Tommy Chong: Because that's the way I kind of work, you



Speaker:

00:57:20,042 --> 00:57:24,438


Tommy Chong: know, if we got stuff to do, I'm an artist



Speaker:

00:57:24,498 --> 00:57:29,471


Tommy Chong: in a sense that if there's an empty canvas



Speaker:

00:57:30,032 --> 00:57:31,917


Tommy Chong: and people can't think of what to put on it.



Speaker:

00:57:32,438 --> 00:57:35,225


Marc Preston: I will eventually come up with an idea you



Speaker:

00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:37,779


Marc Preston: know, and so destination, and then you kind



Speaker:

00:57:37,819 --> 00:57:39,322


Marc Preston: of plot out the journey to get there.



Speaker:

00:57:39,382 --> 00:57:40,765


Tommy Chong: Yeah, yeah, yeah.



Speaker:

00:57:42,695 --> 00:57:44,300


Tommy Chong: Well, I came up with a real good ending for



Speaker:

00:57:44,340 --> 00:57:48,580


Tommy Chong: the documentary, To the point where I told



Speaker:

00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:51,707


Tommy Chong: my daughter I said listen, forget all this



Speaker:

00:57:51,787 --> 00:57:52,268


Tommy Chong: other stuff.



Speaker:

00:57:52,455 --> 00:57:53,358


Tommy Chong: I got an ending.



Speaker:

00:57:55,615 --> 00:57:56,819


Tommy Chong: The director comes back.



Speaker:

00:57:56,980 --> 00:58:01,398


Tommy Chong: Yeah, oh, my God, that got such a riot



Speaker:

00:58:01,458 --> 00:58:05,047


Tommy Chong: because I am the guy they're doing a thing.



Speaker:

00:58:05,335 --> 00:58:09,216


Tommy Chong: I do have the power if I wanted to and they



Speaker:

00:58:09,357 --> 00:58:11,941


Tommy Chong: freaked they actually drove all the way to



Speaker:

00:58:12,001 --> 00:58:15,032


Tommy Chong: San Francisco to talk to Cheech to make



Speaker:

00:58:15,112 --> 00:58:17,178


Tommy Chong: sure that Cheech would not go along with me,



Speaker:

00:58:17,439 --> 00:58:19,122


Tommy Chong: because if Cheech went along with me that



Speaker:

00:58:19,142 --> 00:58:20,145


Tommy Chong: would be the end of the day.



Speaker:

00:58:22,517 --> 00:58:24,483


Tommy Chong: Anyway, Cheech would definitely not go



Speaker:

00:58:24,503 --> 00:58:25,024


Tommy Chong: along with me.



Speaker:

00:58:25,735 --> 00:58:30,845


Tommy Chong: Cheech and I really haven't seen eye to eye



Speaker:

00:58:31,005 --> 00:58:31,667


Tommy Chong: on anything.



Speaker:

00:58:33,456 --> 00:58:35,661


Tommy Chong: I mean, we've been on going.



Speaker:

00:58:35,841 --> 00:58:37,304


Tommy Chong: You know, we've been doing our live act



Speaker:

00:58:37,344 --> 00:58:41,219


Tommy Chong: with Shelby in that, you know, ever since



Speaker:

00:58:41,780 --> 00:58:43,985


Tommy Chong: the 08, actually, as soon as I got out of



Speaker:

00:58:44,025 --> 00:58:44,246


Tommy Chong: jail.



Speaker:

00:58:44,935 --> 00:58:46,262


Tommy Chong: We were supposed to do a movie before I



Speaker:

00:58:46,302 --> 00:58:48,614


Tommy Chong: went to jail, but then I went to jail and



Speaker:

00:58:48,634 --> 00:58:49,859


Tommy Chong: that kind of screwed everything up.



Speaker:

00:58:50,795 --> 00:58:52,020


Tommy Chong: It wouldn't have happened anyway.



Speaker:

00:58:52,415 --> 00:58:53,540


Tommy Chong: You know I didn't.



Speaker:

00:58:54,535 --> 00:58:56,422


Tommy Chong: They've had people write movies for us and



Speaker:

00:58:57,024 --> 00:58:59,934


Tommy Chong: I look at the first couple of pages and



Speaker:

00:58:59,974 --> 00:59:02,301


Tommy Chong: know that you know you can't write for



Speaker:

00:59:02,341 --> 00:59:02,983


Tommy Chong: Cheech and John.



Speaker:

00:59:03,524 --> 00:59:04,897


Marc Preston: Yeah, I think a lot of people.



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Marc Preston: Probably they would come off as a parody,



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Marc Preston: almost.



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Marc Preston: You know.



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Marc Preston: I think people kind of see it as which.



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Marc Preston: What y'all did was, like I said, the



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Marc Preston: physical comedy.



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Marc Preston: It gave you a chance.



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Marc Preston: I mean, like you sitting next to him in a



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Marc Preston: car just slowly eating everything that you



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Marc Preston: had I mean, what was that movie?



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Marc Preston: You were eating everything so that the cop



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Marc Preston: would say it's just, I couldn't take my



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Marc Preston: eyes off you.



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Tommy Chong: It's like wait a minute.



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Tommy Chong: He has no lines, but it's hilarious.



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Marc Preston: And so, in other words, y'all do you think



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Marc Preston: it's that I don't want to, it's not



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Marc Preston: friction, but do you think it's that



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Marc Preston: contrast that kind of gave y'all the fuel



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Marc Preston: to kind of create what y'all have?



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Marc Preston: You know, not necessarily seeing eye to eye



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Marc Preston: on stuff, Two things.



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Tommy Chong: First of all, we're exploring new territory.



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Tommy Chong: You see, we're not rehashing anything.



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Tommy Chong: See, most a lot of movies are rehash,



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Tommy Chong: remake, redo, redot.



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Tommy Chong: You know, because then you know who the



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Tommy Chong: guys are and results going to be.



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Marc Preston: And it's a safe choice for a lot of people



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Marc Preston: especially.



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Marc Preston: I mean just look at all the remakes there



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Marc Preston: are in movies these days yeah.



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Tommy Chong: That's what I'm saying.



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Tommy Chong: I understand.



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Tommy Chong: You know all the moods, the dance and



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Tommy Chong: everything else.



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Tommy Chong: Cheech and I invented a new style of comedy



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Tommy Chong: that only Cheech and I can perform.



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Tommy Chong: You know, I can't do it with anybody else,



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Tommy Chong: and that's the special thing about Cheech



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Tommy Chong: and Chong.



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Tommy Chong: That's why Martin and Lewis had the same



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Tommy Chong: thing.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah.



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Announcer: Oh, yeah, yeah.



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Tommy Chong: It was very spontaneous, in fact, jerry



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Tommy Chong: Lewis gave me one of the best compliments



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Tommy Chong: ever.



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Tommy Chong: He said when they said you know they don't



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Tommy Chong: have comedy teams like you and Marc, you



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Tommy Chong: and Dino and Jerry said oh yeah, they do.



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Tommy Chong: He said Cheech and Chong.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, and the thing is, jerry Lewis, even



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Marc Preston: though he played the kind of the goofy guy,



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Marc Preston: he was the one really meticulously crafting



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Marc Preston: those acts and really Martin was the one to



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Marc Preston: show up and be Dean Martin.



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Marc Preston: You know that's right, that's right.



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Tommy Chong: He was the one to do the lines and do his



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Tommy Chong: things and be the handsome guy.



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Tommy Chong: No, I really respected Jerry's filmmaking.



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Tommy Chong: In fact, I used his technique.



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Tommy Chong: You know, he was the first to use video.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, he was the first one to kind of do



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Marc Preston: that, to kind of video monitor idea.



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Marc Preston: So he'd actually yeah, yeah, he was.



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Marc Preston: Isn't that crazy to think Jerry Lewis did



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Marc Preston: that.



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Marc Preston: I mean, it's like the most common thing now



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Marc Preston: that Jerry Lewis before him.



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Marc Preston: Nobody did that.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, I was the second I was the second to



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Marc Preston: do it?



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, because when we did the next movie, I



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Tommy Chong: hired a video guy and the DP, king Baggett,



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Tommy Chong: was pissed off.



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Tommy Chong: Oh, he did not, he didn't want the



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Tommy Chong: cameraman.



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Tommy Chong: You know, they're like dogs, they don't



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Tommy Chong: want any other dog on the set.



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Marc Preston: But you, if you're in a scene, you've got



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Marc Preston: to see playback to see if it worked.



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Marc Preston: Yeah.



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Tommy Chong: But guess what, guess what?



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Tommy Chong: King Baggett ended up almost marrying Eric



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Tommy Chong: Wooster, my video guy.



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Tommy Chong: I would go to see the scene and King



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Tommy Chong: Baggett would be in there first.



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Tommy Chong: King was in there late budget, because King



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Tommy Chong: is not.



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Marc Preston: he's not worried about the performance,



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Marc Preston: he's worried about the lighting, yeah,



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01:02:22,735 --> 01:02:24,360


Marc Preston: lighting composition and all that stuff,



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Marc Preston: yeah.



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Tommy Chong: Oh, he King loved it after that.



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Tommy Chong: And now, in fact, you don't even use a film



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01:02:31,121 --> 01:02:33,047


Tommy Chong: camera anymore, you just use video.



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Tommy Chong: You know it's all video now.



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01:02:36,295 --> 01:02:39,984


Tommy Chong: No, jerry was was an innovator in that



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01:02:40,025 --> 01:02:40,365


Tommy Chong: sense.



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Tommy Chong: And the thing is about and Jerry and Jerry



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Tommy Chong: knew too.



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Tommy Chong: See what happened with with Jerry and Dean



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01:02:47,378 --> 01:02:51,696


Tommy Chong: Dean, jerry kind of took over and that's



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01:02:51,736 --> 01:02:52,961


Tommy Chong: what happened with Cheech Night 2.



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Tommy Chong: Because once you become a film director,



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01:02:56,943 --> 01:02:59,368


Tommy Chong: that's like being anointed, god.



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01:02:59,769 --> 01:03:04,421


Tommy Chong: You know you, everything depends on what



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01:03:04,522 --> 01:03:05,504


Tommy Chong: the director says.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, everything's sitting on your



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01:03:07,076 --> 01:03:09,281


Marc Preston: shoulders as well, because if it, if



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Marc Preston: something fails, it's all on you.



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01:03:10,785 --> 01:03:10,945


Marc Preston: Yeah.



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Tommy Chong: I got so hooked on that that that Cheech



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01:03:16,176 --> 01:03:19,122


Tommy Chong: and I just well, when we started having



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01:03:19,202 --> 01:03:22,949


Tommy Chong: separate dressing rooms, you know, because



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01:03:23,049 --> 01:03:25,179


Tommy Chong: up into the up into them we always shared



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01:03:25,199 --> 01:03:28,147


Tommy Chong: the dressing room, you know, and because



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01:03:28,167 --> 01:03:30,643


Tommy Chong: when we're in the dressing room we could



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01:03:30,683 --> 01:03:32,819


Tommy Chong: talk, we could write, and I could tell



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01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,265


Tommy Chong: Cheech, you know, give him, cheech, you



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01:03:35,285 --> 01:03:37,778


Tommy Chong: know, direction, because with with Cheech,



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Tommy Chong: all you have to do is just he's like a, a,



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01:03:39,863 --> 01:03:44,242


Tommy Chong: a psychopedia, because he, he can memorize



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01:03:44,282 --> 01:03:45,085


Tommy Chong: so many things.



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01:03:45,495 --> 01:03:48,904


Tommy Chong: And so I, I just show Cheech a direction



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01:03:49,024 --> 01:03:50,347


Tommy Chong: and Cheech gets it right away.



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01:03:50,818 --> 01:03:52,676


Tommy Chong: Well, oh no, I know what you mean, I know



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01:03:52,696 --> 01:03:53,098


Tommy Chong: what you mean.



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01:03:53,855 --> 01:03:56,300


Tommy Chong: And so when we weren't see what happened



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01:03:56,340 --> 01:03:59,287


Tommy Chong: with Lou Adler after Up and Smoke, we got,



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01:04:00,055 --> 01:04:03,003


Tommy Chong: you know, I directed and wrote right up to



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Tommy Chong: the end.



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01:04:04,195 --> 01:04:05,920


Tommy Chong: And then Lou Adler says, you know, because



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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,306


Tommy Chong: he's a director and and I found out now



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01:04:08,326 --> 01:04:11,884


Tommy Chong: that he wanted to take, take, take all the



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01:04:11,924 --> 01:04:12,425


Tommy Chong: money too.



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01:04:13,075 --> 01:04:16,081


Tommy Chong: So he, at the end of Up and Smoke, he, he



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01:04:16,462 --> 01:04:19,027


Tommy Chong: kind of barred me from the set, you know,



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01:04:19,648 --> 01:04:20,717


Tommy Chong: and there's.



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01:04:22,202 --> 01:04:23,124


Tommy Chong: I said, are you ready?



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01:04:23,535 --> 01:04:25,803


Tommy Chong: And they said, no, no, we've already shot



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01:04:25,843 --> 01:04:26,064


Tommy Chong: that.



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01:04:26,235 --> 01:04:28,860


Tommy Chong: And I said, oh, because usually they call



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01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:31,785


Tommy Chong: me in, you know, to make sure everything



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01:04:31,825 --> 01:04:32,226


Tommy Chong: was right.



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01:04:32,286 --> 01:04:33,709


Tommy Chong: You know, I was really the director.



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01:04:34,175 --> 01:04:36,723


Tommy Chong: Then Lou took over to the point where Lou



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01:04:36,784 --> 01:04:39,131


Tommy Chong: says, okay, I, I, I, yeah.



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Tommy Chong: I got a good idea of yeah, working on the



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01:04:42,902 --> 01:04:43,203


Tommy Chong: ending.



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01:04:43,483 --> 01:04:44,445


Tommy Chong: You know we got enough.



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01:04:44,926 --> 01:04:47,571


Tommy Chong: Like like Lou was the kind of producer that



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01:04:47,932 --> 01:04:50,364


Tommy Chong: we run out of money stop, stop everything



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01:04:50,524 --> 01:04:51,367


Tommy Chong: and we're finished.



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01:04:51,709 --> 01:04:52,010


Tommy Chong: You know.



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01:04:55,941 --> 01:04:57,869


Marc Preston: It's kind of like money's done, okay, cut.



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01:04:59,481 --> 01:05:00,003


Tommy Chong: We're done.



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01:05:00,526 --> 01:05:00,807


Tommy Chong: So.



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01:05:00,847 --> 01:05:01,731


Tommy Chong: So what happened I?



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01:05:03,484 --> 01:05:06,844


Tommy Chong: So I backed around back down and and, and



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Tommy Chong: they do, they edited the movie, they being



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Tommy Chong: Lou and Lou Lombardo the editor, and that



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01:05:12,119 --> 01:05:16,462


Tommy Chong: and Then they showed us the rough cut, or



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01:05:16,503 --> 01:05:20,286


Tommy Chong: the first assembled Part, and they showed



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Tommy Chong: Paramount to the same time.



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Tommy Chong: It was the worst fucking ending of any



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01:05:25,832 --> 01:05:26,982


Tommy Chong: movie I'd ever seen.



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Tommy Chong: It was so bad.



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01:05:28,886 --> 01:05:30,529


Tommy Chong: Everything that we had done might as well



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01:05:30,569 --> 01:05:32,654


Tommy Chong: be, you know, forgot about it.



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01:05:33,081 --> 01:05:33,522


Tommy Chong: Really.



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01:05:33,563 --> 01:05:36,705


Tommy Chong: The ending, was it what he, what he did?



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01:05:36,765 --> 01:05:38,891


Tommy Chong: I'll tell you, you'll know, no one will



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Tommy Chong: ever see it, but but the ending was that



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Tommy Chong: Lou came up with was that it was all a



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Tommy Chong: dream and that that when we were at the,



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Tommy Chong: when we're stopped on the PCH, and and



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01:05:54,726 --> 01:05:57,383


Tommy Chong: that's where everything, everything after



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01:05:57,684 --> 01:06:01,684


Tommy Chong: the PCH, was a dream, and we were sort of



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01:06:01,785 --> 01:06:06,011


Tommy Chong: somehow, and Stacy shows up as a uniform,



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01:06:08,861 --> 01:06:12,211


Tommy Chong: stacy Keech, yeah, I mean, it was the.



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Tommy Chong: Really, it was like it was.



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Tommy Chong: You couldn't get I.



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Tommy Chong: I haven't really been able to have a



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Tommy Chong: conversation with Lou since Period period



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01:06:23,845 --> 01:06:26,152


Tommy Chong: about anything you know other than hi,



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Tommy Chong: how's everything?



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, nice, the house of kids, how's that?



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01:06:29,342 --> 01:06:31,669


Tommy Chong: You know before that he was always



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01:06:31,729 --> 01:06:32,491


Tommy Chong: interested in.



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Tommy Chong: You know, what do you want to shoot now or



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01:06:35,534 --> 01:06:36,340


Tommy Chong: what should we do now?



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Marc Preston: And I was the one where y'all had that



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01:06:38,726 --> 01:06:41,032


Marc Preston: little van that had the marijuana sprayed



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Marc Preston: on the side of it and the exhaust pipe was



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Marc Preston: too Hot and yeah, I didn't get everything



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Marc Preston: about, okay, I, because I forgot that was



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Marc Preston: up in smoke or the next movie, yeah.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, well, he wanted to be.



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Tommy Chong: I Mean his idea to save money was to.



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Tommy Chong: It was all a dream and it was the biggest



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Tommy Chong: fucking insult ever.



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Tommy Chong: And so then I told, I said that was the end.



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Tommy Chong: And so I thought I told everybody, as we



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01:07:05,286 --> 01:07:07,511


Tommy Chong: got to reshoot the ending I'm directing,



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01:07:08,212 --> 01:07:10,143


Tommy Chong: and that was it, and how much of it did you



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Tommy Chong: do?



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Marc Preston: how much of the of the final print?



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Marc Preston: How much of that did you end up directing



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Marc Preston: the ending?



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Tommy Chong: The ending where I mean I wrote and



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Tommy Chong: basically showed them what to do.



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Tommy Chong: You know, I mean, you know I actually



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Tommy Chong: directed the whole movie when it came right



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01:07:28,092 --> 01:07:28,613


Tommy Chong: down to it.



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Tommy Chong: You know, the only thing I gotta give I'll



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Tommy Chong: give Lou and everybody credit for is that



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Tommy Chong: Stacey wrote his own lines.



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Tommy Chong: I.



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Tommy Chong: I give him an idea of what we wanted to do.



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Tommy Chong: Strother Martin, you know, you get a job by



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01:07:42,739 --> 01:07:43,140


Tommy Chong: sundown.



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01:07:43,563 --> 01:07:46,200


Tommy Chong: Oh, that was all Strother Martin ad lib.



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01:07:47,102 --> 01:07:50,449


Tommy Chong: He wrote every bit of that, that monologue.



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Tommy Chong: That was Strother Martin and he never got



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01:07:52,994 --> 01:07:55,945


Tommy Chong: credit for the Ajax ladies and ordnance.



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Tommy Chong: That was all her stuff, you know.



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Tommy Chong: And so what I would do, I would Get



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Tommy Chong: gathered this stuff and teach a story,



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Tommy Chong: teach painting the hamper, teach All the.



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Tommy Chong: I love the keeping the beers in the fish



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Tommy Chong: tank.



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Marc Preston: That just made sense to me.



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01:08:12,517 --> 01:08:13,200


Marc Preston: You know, it's like that was me.



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01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:13,822


Marc Preston: That was me.



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01:08:15,620 --> 01:08:17,223


Tommy Chong: I was like that makes for a good cooler,



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Tommy Chong: you know.



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01:08:18,526 --> 01:08:20,971


Tommy Chong: And washing, washing no, that was next



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01:08:20,991 --> 01:08:22,894


Tommy Chong: movie, but that that was yeah.



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Marc Preston: So next movie really was me, me and she,



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01:08:29,047 --> 01:08:31,350


Marc Preston: and it's the best title for a sequel ever,



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01:08:31,431 --> 01:08:34,375


Marc Preston: because it is the Cheech and Chong's next



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01:08:34,435 --> 01:08:34,835


Marc Preston: movie.



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Marc Preston: Is that Easy to remember, you know?



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01:08:37,545 --> 01:08:39,449


Marc Preston: Yeah, this, this trip down memory lane, is



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01:08:39,469 --> 01:08:41,032


Marc Preston: so much fun and I really think that.



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Marc Preston: Have you noticed, like Jin Z, millennials,



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01:08:45,905 --> 01:08:47,368


Marc Preston: have they rediscovered your movies?



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01:08:47,468 --> 01:08:49,413


Marc Preston: Have you had any feedback for people that



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01:08:49,453 --> 01:08:51,747


Marc Preston: have Kind of started finding your stuff



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01:08:51,767 --> 01:08:51,968


Marc Preston: going?



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Marc Preston: Oh yeah, I know it's like Tommy Chong is



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Marc Preston: he's the weed guy, but it's like no,



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Marc Preston: there's a thing.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, they, they know me from that sub



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Tommy Chong: addition.



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Tommy Chong: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they know me because,



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01:09:04,444 --> 01:09:06,768


Tommy Chong: see it, that's an extension of that



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Tommy Chong: character.



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Tommy Chong: That's what.



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01:09:08,432 --> 01:09:11,863


Tommy Chong: That's what I was trying to Get through, to



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01:09:11,924 --> 01:09:15,462


Tommy Chong: teach you know, which I never did Was the



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01:09:15,522 --> 01:09:19,330


Tommy Chong: fact that those iconic characters can live



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Tommy Chong: forever, will live forever.



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01:09:22,541 --> 01:09:25,691


Tommy Chong: You can't kill him and and you can only,



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Tommy Chong: you can only live off him, and I did that



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Tommy Chong: with that, with my character.



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Tommy Chong: See I, there was more To making the movies.



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Tommy Chong: I wanted to put a message out to the world



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01:09:43,181 --> 01:09:48,109


Tommy Chong: number one If you can smoke, dope and still



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Tommy Chong: be healthy and still still work out.



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Marc Preston: Oh, you've always been a really great shape.



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01:09:53,846 --> 01:09:55,830


Marc Preston: I mean, working out and lifting has always



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Marc Preston: been a big thing with you.



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Tommy Chong: That's it.



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01:09:57,724 --> 01:10:01,537


Tommy Chong: I mean, and to this day now I'm selling CBD



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Tommy Chong: that it's good for you.



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Tommy Chong: See, I don't want to do anything or even



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01:10:05,767 --> 01:10:08,472


Tommy Chong: leave the people down the wrong path with a



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Tommy Chong: character, even If my, if a carry, I refuse



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01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:14,878


Tommy Chong: because I know the effect that I have on



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01:10:14,938 --> 01:10:15,420


Tommy Chong: people there.



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Tommy Chong: They listen to me, you know, and and and



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01:10:18,808 --> 01:10:19,209


Tommy Chong: they read.



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01:10:19,289 --> 01:10:21,624


Tommy Chong: They not only listen to me, but they, they



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01:10:21,664 --> 01:10:23,471


Tommy Chong: will repeat what I would.



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01:10:23,572 --> 01:10:26,041


Tommy Chong: I do what I say, you know, like with the



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01:10:26,081 --> 01:10:29,729


Tommy Chong: CBD that I'm selling now, you know, that's



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01:10:29,789 --> 01:10:34,365


Tommy Chong: going crazy as far as people like in it and



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01:10:34,846 --> 01:10:36,811


Tommy Chong: and it's good for you, and that's the thing



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01:10:36,851 --> 01:10:37,353


Tommy Chong: about weed.



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Tommy Chong: That's that's why I'd never promote any



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01:10:41,389 --> 01:10:44,305


Tommy Chong: kind of smoking, cigarettes, you know, a



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01:10:44,626 --> 01:10:47,440


Tommy Chong: tobacco or or alcohol.



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01:10:48,408 --> 01:10:51,244


Tommy Chong: I had a chance to, you know, to do a Beer



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01:10:51,885 --> 01:10:54,031


Tommy Chong: and and I went to, even right to the



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01:10:54,071 --> 01:10:56,658


Tommy Chong: brewery because I wanted to check it all



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01:10:56,799 --> 01:10:57,260


Tommy Chong: out, you know.



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01:10:57,802 --> 01:11:00,771


Tommy Chong: And then I then I had a flash of you know,



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01:11:02,302 --> 01:11:05,670


Tommy Chong: of a car wreck, with Chong beer scattered



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01:11:05,731 --> 01:11:10,569


Tommy Chong: around, you know, and and I said, no, I



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01:11:10,589 --> 01:11:12,293


Tommy Chong: don't want to be, I don't want that tag.



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01:11:13,082 --> 01:11:15,290


Tommy Chong: You can be the nicest guy all your life,



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01:11:16,123 --> 01:11:20,166


Tommy Chong: but you mess up one time, man, you're done



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01:11:21,451 --> 01:11:23,398


Tommy Chong: you know it's funny because I was talking



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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:23,840


Tommy Chong: with my kids.



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01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,878


Marc Preston: My daughter is at college right now.



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01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,056


Marc Preston: She's gonna be a sophomore.



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01:11:27,139 --> 01:11:28,907


Marc Preston: My son's going to the same school next year



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01:11:28,990 --> 01:11:29,678


Marc Preston: as a freshman.



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01:11:30,082 --> 01:11:31,496


Marc Preston: And I was telling them I was trying to find



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01:11:31,516 --> 01:11:34,011


Marc Preston: a way to put it there's so much mischief



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01:11:34,071 --> 01:11:35,358


Marc Preston: going on, people spiking, drinks and all



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01:11:35,378 --> 01:11:35,519


Marc Preston: that is.



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01:11:35,539 --> 01:11:39,174


Marc Preston: Like, you know, if you were in a room and



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01:11:39,194 --> 01:11:40,018


Marc Preston: you and your girlfriends show up and



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01:11:40,038 --> 01:11:42,051


Marc Preston: there's some guys or you know, have a



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01:11:42,071 --> 01:11:43,198


Marc Preston: little get together and they're all just



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01:11:43,218 --> 01:11:45,310


Marc Preston: blackout drunk, they're just drinking, I



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01:11:45,330 --> 01:11:46,436


Marc Preston: said in a way, I would rather than be in a



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01:11:46,456 --> 01:11:47,140


Marc Preston: room with some guys.



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01:11:47,543 --> 01:11:48,715


Marc Preston: I've been smoking and that's it.



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01:11:48,735 --> 01:11:51,726


Marc Preston: That's the only thing, because I think it's



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01:11:52,127 --> 01:11:55,558


Marc Preston: ultimately, I feel like it's safer for them



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01:11:55,598 --> 01:11:56,200


Marc Preston: being that scenario.



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01:11:57,065 --> 01:11:58,253


Marc Preston: Then, with the guys that have been, you



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01:11:58,293 --> 01:11:59,379


Marc Preston: know, college and just drinking and all



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01:11:59,399 --> 01:12:01,350


Marc Preston: that I mean, I mean you know you're a



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01:12:01,430 --> 01:12:02,536


Marc Preston: parent, you know it's your job to worry



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01:12:02,557 --> 01:12:04,526


Marc Preston: about your kids all the time, no matter how



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01:12:04,546 --> 01:12:07,177


Marc Preston: they are, and but it's like I'm not



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01:12:07,197 --> 01:12:09,386


Marc Preston: advocating it necessarily, but I'm saying



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01:12:09,427 --> 01:12:12,218


Marc Preston: listen, the reality is the people that that



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01:12:12,238 --> 01:12:12,800


Marc Preston: are gonna sit back and smoke.



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01:12:13,222 --> 01:12:15,252


Marc Preston: They're, they're, they got a different



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01:12:15,272 --> 01:12:16,338


Marc Preston: mentality and people just pounding beers



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01:12:16,358 --> 01:12:18,748


Marc Preston: and you know alcohol, yeah, and and one



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01:12:18,928 --> 01:12:19,471


Marc Preston: thing, that's poison.



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01:12:19,551 --> 01:12:20,997


Marc Preston: I mean you really think about it.



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01:12:21,037 --> 01:12:24,518


Marc Preston: I mean it's you know it takes a toll on you



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01:12:24,538 --> 01:12:24,800


Marc Preston: after a while.



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01:12:26,445 --> 01:12:30,098


Tommy Chong: Well, the best way is by example.



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01:12:30,118 --> 01:12:32,753


Tommy Chong: You know, and that's what I've done all my



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01:12:32,773 --> 01:12:32,914


Tommy Chong: life.



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01:12:32,995 --> 01:12:33,579


Tommy Chong: It's just by example.



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01:12:36,068 --> 01:12:37,673


Tommy Chong: Now, you know, what I found out is that



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01:12:38,054 --> 01:12:38,556


Tommy Chong: they would, they will.



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01:12:38,576 --> 01:12:40,281


Tommy Chong: If you're doing something right, if you're



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01:12:40,301 --> 01:12:42,446


Tommy Chong: doing something right, they people will



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01:12:42,466 --> 01:12:44,751


Tommy Chong: pick up on it and they will copy you.



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01:12:44,931 --> 01:12:46,355


Tommy Chong: And I've had that happen.



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01:12:46,395 --> 01:12:51,323


Tommy Chong: You know, I've had people you know Not



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01:12:51,383 --> 01:12:55,091


Tommy Chong: exactly what I do, and to me it's, it's a,



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01:12:56,133 --> 01:12:58,718


Tommy Chong: it's a beautiful thing, like if someone



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01:12:59,079 --> 01:13:01,447


Tommy Chong: does teaching Chong bits, I don't get



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01:13:01,487 --> 01:13:04,680


Tommy Chong: offended, I take that, I'm very proud of



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01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:04,800


Tommy Chong: that.



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01:13:06,767 --> 01:13:08,312


Marc Preston: They're keeping it alive, and I think



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01:13:08,332 --> 01:13:09,777


Marc Preston: that's that's right.



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01:13:09,957 --> 01:13:10,720


Marc Preston: They're paying no much to me.



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01:13:12,085 --> 01:13:14,314


Marc Preston: I certainly appreciate, and I just want to



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01:13:14,354 --> 01:13:15,037


Marc Preston: wrap up real quick.



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01:13:15,057 --> 01:13:15,800


Marc Preston: I got a quick seven questions for you.



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01:13:16,907 --> 01:13:18,337


Marc Preston: These are just my fun questions.



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01:13:18,357 --> 01:13:18,800


Marc Preston: These are just okay.



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01:13:20,425 --> 01:13:21,789


Marc Preston: I always wrap up every interview with.



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01:13:21,809 --> 01:13:24,115


Marc Preston: The first one is what is your favorite



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01:13:24,717 --> 01:13:25,038


Marc Preston: comfort food?



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01:13:25,058 --> 01:13:26,922


Marc Preston: That thing that's like you love Snack an



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01:13:26,942 --> 01:13:27,263


Marc Preston: honor.



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01:13:27,283 --> 01:13:28,165


Marc Preston: You just kind of go to it.



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01:13:28,225 --> 01:13:30,229


Marc Preston: It's just you know you always have to have



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01:13:30,249 --> 01:13:30,890


Marc Preston: it around the house.



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01:13:31,632 --> 01:13:35,964


Tommy Chong: Well, no, I guess.



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01:13:36,164 --> 01:13:40,447


Tommy Chong: Croissants, croissants, toast it, toast it



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01:13:40,527 --> 01:13:43,619


Tommy Chong: croissant is my, my favorite favorite.



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01:13:44,301 --> 01:13:45,764


Marc Preston: Yeah, my oldest daughter loves those.



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01:13:45,784 --> 01:13:47,388


Marc Preston: Yeah, those are tasty.



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01:13:47,408 --> 01:13:49,332


Marc Preston: Little butter, little little few calories



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01:13:49,372 --> 01:13:49,593


Marc Preston: in there.



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01:13:50,482 --> 01:13:51,164


Marc Preston: Oh, toast it.



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01:13:51,486 --> 01:13:52,248


Marc Preston: Oh, I love it.



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01:13:53,243 --> 01:13:54,451


Marc Preston: Now, if you're gonna sit down, next



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01:13:54,511 --> 01:13:55,136


Marc Preston: question three people.



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01:13:55,176 --> 01:13:55,780


Marc Preston: You can have a cup of coffee.



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01:13:56,406 --> 01:13:57,800


Marc Preston: You're gonna be talking story for a while.



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01:13:58,342 --> 01:14:01,091


Marc Preston: Who would those three people be living or



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01:14:01,151 --> 01:14:01,392


Marc Preston: not?



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01:14:01,593 --> 01:14:03,399


Marc Preston: You know, if you could sit down and have



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01:14:03,419 --> 01:14:05,606


Marc Preston: spent a few hours Is talking about life of



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01:14:05,626 --> 01:14:06,589


Marc Preston: three people, who would it be?



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01:14:08,583 --> 01:14:11,051


Tommy Chong: What's his name that's kept was messed up.



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01:14:11,272 --> 01:14:15,847


Tommy Chong: The In the wheelchair can hardly talk.



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01:14:16,208 --> 01:14:16,308


Tommy Chong: Oh.



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01:14:19,081 --> 01:14:20,143


Marc Preston: The doctor from England.



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01:14:20,604 --> 01:14:22,389


Tommy Chong: These the after-fifth this, that was a.



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01:14:22,409 --> 01:14:22,710


Tommy Chong: That's him.



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01:14:24,844 --> 01:14:25,647


Marc Preston: Oh, not see a thing.



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01:14:25,667 --> 01:14:27,093


Marc Preston: When I try to remember somebody's name,



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01:14:27,133 --> 01:14:28,780


Marc Preston: that's my brain goes nope, not gonna do it.



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01:14:29,421 --> 01:14:31,487


Tommy Chong: Yeah, hawking, stephen Hawking, hawking,



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01:14:31,527 --> 01:14:35,507


Tommy Chong: Stephen Hawking, stephen Hawking, moses.



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01:14:35,527 --> 01:14:41,151


Tommy Chong: I really identify with Moses and Just



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01:14:42,822 --> 01:14:45,148


Tommy Chong: Because he was so influential, still



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01:14:45,229 --> 01:14:48,216


Tommy Chong: influential in my life is Jesus, uh-huh



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01:14:48,737 --> 01:14:49,559


Tommy Chong: very good, very good.



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01:14:49,579 --> 01:14:49,619


Marc Preston: So.



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01:14:50,181 --> 01:14:52,668


Marc Preston: So next question, like when you're young,



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01:14:53,450 --> 01:14:56,385


Marc Preston: who is your Celebrity crush?



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01:14:56,686 --> 01:14:58,673


Marc Preston: The first one you know, maybe your teenager



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01:14:58,874 --> 01:15:00,178


Marc Preston: late, you know somebody who's like ah,



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01:15:00,258 --> 01:15:01,749


Marc Preston: first time it came, they came on your radar.



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01:15:01,790 --> 01:15:04,005


Marc Preston: You're just like all about him, besides



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01:15:04,085 --> 01:15:04,788


Marc Preston: Shelby, of course.



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01:15:05,542 --> 01:15:06,846


Tommy Chong: Marilyn, marilyn Monroe.



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01:15:06,926 --> 01:15:10,115


Tommy Chong: I gotta say I've always loved Marilyn



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01:15:10,135 --> 01:15:10,456


Tommy Chong: Monroe.



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01:15:10,476 --> 01:15:11,720


Tommy Chong: Oh my god.



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01:15:13,605 --> 01:15:14,748


Marc Preston: Now, if you're gonna be living next



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01:15:14,809 --> 01:15:16,995


Marc Preston: question on an island a year, you and



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01:15:17,035 --> 01:15:18,078


Marc Preston: Shelby hanging out.



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01:15:18,258 --> 01:15:19,402


Marc Preston: It's a beautiful island you have, but



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01:15:19,422 --> 01:15:20,908


Marc Preston: there's no streaming, there's no internet



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01:15:20,928 --> 01:15:22,696


Marc Preston: and you can only bring one DVD of a movie



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01:15:22,736 --> 01:15:23,780


Marc Preston: and you can only bring one album with you.



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01:15:24,782 --> 01:15:26,606


Marc Preston: What would that DVD and what would that



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01:15:26,646 --> 01:15:27,107


Marc Preston: album be?



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01:15:27,769 --> 01:15:31,302


Tommy Chong: Okay, the album would be kind of blue by



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01:15:31,362 --> 01:15:32,908


Tommy Chong: tear by tyranny Sutton.



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01:15:34,041 --> 01:15:35,366


Tommy Chong: That's, that's my album.



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01:15:35,989 --> 01:15:40,659


Tommy Chong: The movie would be badlands by Terrence



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01:15:40,699 --> 01:15:40,800


Tommy Chong: Malek.



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01:15:43,465 --> 01:15:45,529


Tommy Chong: Terrence Malek and Martin Sheen.



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01:15:46,131 --> 01:15:47,133


Tommy Chong: That, that's a movie.



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01:15:47,353 --> 01:15:48,535


Marc Preston: That's going back right there.



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01:15:48,555 --> 01:15:51,409


Marc Preston: Yeah, what a great actor, martin Sheen.



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01:15:51,730 --> 01:15:52,332


Announcer: Everything is in.



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01:15:54,022 --> 01:15:56,588


Marc Preston: Now, if you were to define a perfect day?



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01:15:56,608 --> 01:15:58,872


Marc Preston: You know, stem to stern, from time you get



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01:15:58,912 --> 01:16:00,716


Marc Preston: up, to time you put your head on the pillow.



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01:16:01,303 --> 01:16:03,236


Marc Preston: You know what are the component parts of



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01:16:03,276 --> 01:16:03,800


Marc Preston: just a killer day for you.



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01:16:06,227 --> 01:16:11,147


Tommy Chong: Oh killer day, I guess.



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Tommy Chong: Finishing Something that I've always meant



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Tommy Chong: to do but never got around to doing it



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Tommy Chong: Rearranging my garage.



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Marc Preston: It's a small things like that yeah.



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Tommy Chong: That would that would be a killer day.



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Tommy Chong: I started it.



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Tommy Chong: I started it and I'm part way there, but,



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Tommy Chong: but I got to finish it.



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Tommy Chong: I got a thing I'm a professional



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Tommy Chong: procrastinator.



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Marc Preston: And it's time for the May meeting of the



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Marc Preston: professional procrastinators association.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, we're gonna put it off till next



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Tommy Chong: month.



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Tommy Chong: Now, if you weren't, if you?



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Marc Preston: weren't doing this for a living, if you



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Marc Preston: weren't Acting, doing comedy, doing, you



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Marc Preston: know, being an, at being a cannabis



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Marc Preston: advocate.



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Marc Preston: What would your vocation be?



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Marc Preston: I would like to be a teacher.



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Tommy Chong: A teacher to see a philosophy.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, a philosophy teacher.



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Marc Preston: Very good, I think you definitely, you



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Marc Preston: definitely have the street cred for it,



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Marc Preston: without a doubt, I think you, I think



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Marc Preston: you're still, in a way, I think you've



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Marc Preston: already been doing that.



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Marc Preston: You know.



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Marc Preston: No, I have, I have.



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Tommy Chong: I've been writing too.



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Tommy Chong: I write down a lot of Philosophy.



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Tommy Chong: I was very lucky I got turned on to the



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Tommy Chong: spiritual world by a jazz musician Many,



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Tommy Chong: many, many, many years ago, and I have Yet.



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Tommy Chong: You know, I've got books that I always



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Tommy Chong: refer people to Trying to see it.



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Tommy Chong: No, I guess it's in the other room.



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Tommy Chong: But yeah, I'm, I'm on that road yeah.



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Marc Preston: I was a fan of you remember Alan Watts, by



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Marc Preston: Yeah, now, last question now, if you, we



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Marc Preston: back in time, got a couple minutes with 16



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Marc Preston: year old Tommy Chaw, what piece of advice



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Marc Preston: think would be essential to share with 16



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, I don't know.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, I'm so, I just really love my life.



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Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, I can be sure, because I know



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Marc Preston: want to know the answer to that question



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Marc Preston: and I feel like if I don't ask it, then you



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Marc Preston: know.



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Marc Preston: But who is that person and what's that



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Marc Preston: strain?



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Tommy Chong: Well, it's a.



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Tommy Chong: It was a guy that I, that I almost smoked



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Tommy Chong: with, but he was having immigration



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Tommy Chong: problems at the time.



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Tommy Chong: I walked into a room one time to light up a



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Tommy Chong: joint, which I did.



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Tommy Chong: I lit up this beautiful Mexican sativa, I



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Tommy Chong: guess it was, and it was pretty stinky and



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Tommy Chong: I'm smoking.



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Tommy Chong: I look down and there's John Lennon sitting



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Tommy Chong: on the floor and I looked at the joint to



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Tommy Chong: see am I hallucinating?



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Tommy Chong: That's John Lennon, and it was John Lennon.



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Tommy Chong: And so I walked over and I handed him the



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Tommy Chong: joint and he refused it.



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Tommy Chong: He goes I'm sorry, Nate, can't do it, you



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Tommy Chong: can't do it, I've got immigration problems.



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Tommy Chong: I would love to go back in that time and



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Tommy Chong: tell John John, forget the immigration,



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Tommy Chong: smoke, smoke this shit.



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Marc Preston: Oh God.



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Marc Preston: I can't even, I can't even imagine what



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Marc Preston: that would have been like.



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Marc Preston: But yeah, you know, and hey, feel free to



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Marc Preston: promote man.



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Marc Preston: I mean, you know, what do you think is the



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Marc Preston: strain that your favorite tire top strain?



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Marc Preston: And you've got your own line out now, don't



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Marc Preston: you?



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Tommy Chong: We do Cheech and Chong we got.



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Tommy Chong: Cheech and Chong pot we got Tommy Chong pot



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Tommy Chong: we got.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, my favorite thing really is the these



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Tommy Chong: CBD nice strain just helps you sleep.



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Tommy Chong: But advice, they say, put it down to your



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Tommy Chong: tongue.



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Tommy Chong: I don't.



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Tommy Chong: It kind of messes with my teeth somehow.



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Tommy Chong: The only thing I would say is put it right



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Tommy Chong: down the throat.



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Tommy Chong: You know, don't mess with under the tongue.



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Tommy Chong: It works.



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Marc Preston: What's the name of it?



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Tommy Chong: again it's a CBD, but it's called nice



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Tommy Chong: dreams, nice dreams, tommy Chong's nice



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Tommy Chong: dreams.



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Marc Preston: I am going to try and find some of that



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Marc Preston: down this way.



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Tommy Chong: Walmart was carrying somewhere.



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Tommy Chong: You know, that's how popular they are.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, it's a Tommy Chong CBD product and



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Tommy Chong: you can go online too.



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Tommy Chong: I think it's hate Tommy Chong or something,



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Tommy Chong: but Tommy Chong CBD, you'll find it.



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Marc Preston: Very good.



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Marc Preston: And what strain?



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Marc Preston: What strain are you recommending right now,



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Marc Preston: as as?



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Tommy Chong: a.



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Tommy Chong: Well, there's a.



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Tommy Chong: We got a strain called Labrador.



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Tommy Chong: It was from our, one of our bits.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, what kind of what am I smoking?



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Tommy Chong: Oh, labrador man, my dog.



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Marc Preston: I can't remember that.



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Tommy Chong: Yeah, so we got a strain called Labrador.



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Marc Preston: Oh, wasn't it because the dog pooped or



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Marc Preston: something and the weed was in the poop.



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Tommy Chong: No, the dog ate my stash.



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Tommy Chong: It took me a.



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Tommy Chong: I had to follow him around for a month



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Tommy Chong: before I got it back.



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Tommy Chong: Oh man.



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Marc Preston: Well, tommy man, thank you, this has been a



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Marc Preston: this.



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Marc Preston: I know my, my 13 year old self is going



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Marc Preston: dude.



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Marc Preston: This is awesome.



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Marc Preston: You know, it's such a pleasure to sit down



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Marc Preston: with you.



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Tommy Chong: I'm glad.



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Marc Preston: Give, give Paris a hug for me.



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Marc Preston: What a, what a man she is and I I will.



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Marc Preston: My friend, you have a great, have yourself



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Marc Preston: a great rest your weekend, weekend and I,



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Marc Preston: hopefully we'll catch up down the line.



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Tommy Chong: I really enjoyed talking to you, dude.



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Marc Preston: Well, there you go, Tommy Chong, a legend



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Marc Preston: and a really cool guy to sit down and talk



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Marc Preston: story with.



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Marc Preston: What a what?



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Marc Preston: insights, some some things I didn't even



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Marc Preston: know about teaching Chong and kind of how



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Marc Preston: that came together.



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Marc Preston: And I tell you this was fun for me and my



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Tommy Chong

Comedian | Actor | Writer | Director | Entrepreneur | Cannabis Advocate

Grammy Award winning comedian Tommy Chong is legendary for his invaluable contribution to American counter-culture as part of the iconic comedy duo Cheech & Chong. During their reign, the twosome recorded six gold comedy albums, including the 1973 Grammy winner “Los Cochinos,” and starred in eight films, most of which Chong co-wrote and directed. The first, Up In Smoke, was the highest grossing comedy of 1978, topping $100 million at the box office. Others were Cheech and Chong’s Next Movie (1980), Nice Dreams (1981), Things Are Tough All Over (1982), Cheech and Chong: Still Smoking (1983), and The Corsican Brothers (1984). Born in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, Tommy began his entertainment career as a musician in a Canadian-based rhythm and blues band. Eventually, he landed a gig with the “Vancouvers”” and co-wrote the band’s 1960’s hit, “Does Your Mama Know About Me.”” From here, Chong eventually turned towards the life as an actor. The first step was forming “City Works,” an improvisational group where he consequently met his future comedic partner, Richard “Cheech” Marin. Throughout the 1970’s Cheech & Chong earned a massive following until eventually, the duo had run its lengthy and prosperous course and they both embarked on solo careers. Tommy has appeared in several films including 1990’s “Far Out, Man!”” and “National Lampoon’s Senior Trip” (1995). Chong has also starred, most notably, as “Leo” on Fox’s “That 70’s Show,” and has guest starred on ABC’s “Dharma & Greg” and “The George Lopez Show.” Chong recently released his new book entitled Cheech and … Read More